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Blackhawk
05-03-2001, 10:12 PM
It seems to me that a lot of the photos posted on this discussion group get very few comments, mine included. Does that mean that no one looks at them or that most don't comment? I just wondered if it is worth the effort of posting them--it does take a bit of work and time to scan them in and convert to jpeg and send them. Maybe some of you that look and don't comment could fill me in. Or maybe no one looks.

Pat Daily

Achim Stegmeier
05-04-2001, 08:36 AM
I love to watch these photos, but I don't comment unless I've got a specific question. I think it would be rather annoying if the community replys to each photo, saying great photo.

Achi

jimwalker
05-04-2001, 09:37 AM
I guess I have to agree with Achi, I look forward to seeing new photos when I log on. However, unless I have a question, I think it would get pretty redundant and annoying if the picture was followed by multiple posts of everyone taking their turn saying "Wow!". I plan on posting a picture of my latest project with the spec's listed.

Just seeing what people are doing and what is possible in our chosen arena is good stuff...

Happy flying!

corey c
05-04-2001, 11:23 AM
I love to see other peoples pictures, it lets you see what other people are doing and how they do it.Like they say...A picture is worth more then a thousand words.I must say though, some of the other peoples planes make my building look bad,makes you push a little harder.

Grizzly Greg
06-07-2001, 10:44 AM
Hi again Pat, being a untested newbi,I'm hesitant to post....guess I'm afraid of embarressing myself with all the questions I have..your skill level and obvious talent are so far above mine that I feel like a ham handed klutz....but they say practice helps,so I'm ordering and building some FF designs I built as a kid,with the hopes of making them RC someday. However,in the meantime..LOVE those photos! please keep posting them, the Curtis and the Wildcat really flip my switch...and that Blackhawk insigna,great touch!!!
Grizz.

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OCModels
06-07-2001, 11:55 AM
Where do you think all my ideas come from? Oops Did I say that out loud...

I love logging on and seeing new pictures. I like to get an idea of what others are building. I too post pictures on this board and if no one comments! That’s fine by me...

Jeffrey Park

Blackhawk
06-07-2001, 07:00 PM
Gruzz and OC

Glad you like the pics--it is a bit of work to scan them in and change to jpegs and post them--nice to know that folks look at them.

The F4F is the old Hurst Bowers plans published in Model Aviation --about 31 or 33 inch span--I started with a 1524 motor and am now running a GWS "A" gearbox that has more power, ailerons, rudder, elevator, 8x270 NIMH batteries, FMA SC-5 ESC, Hs50 servos, GWS reciever, 8x6 GWS prop, and covered with airspan and acrylic (Poly S) paint. Ink jet printer decals homemade. It is quick at almost 10 ounces--I made it too heavy for really slow fly.

I have only been building electric rc for 18 months and free flight for 40+ years. The techniques are basically free flight scale techniques. I had been waiting a long time for small rc stuff to get light enough for old free flight plans. Now I am having more fun than ever. Have built 15 planes in the last 18 months!

I love scaling up some of the free flight scale stuff to around 30 inches or so and making them rc. Now when I fly them, it is possible to go on "secret missions, dogfights, etc." --it is like being 10 years old again. On calm nights, I even fly two planes at once. I get one trimmed for very gentle circular climbs and then launch another and fly formation!! Man, this stuff is fun!

Pat Daily

Blackhawk
06-07-2001, 07:06 PM
Guys

One more thing I ought to add about the flight shots--they may not be the sharpest, but I take them myself while flying usually. Trim the plane, hold the tx with one hand and shoot photos with the other. Flew the F4F in the ground once doing this. It is kinda like rolling dice and hoping some are in focus and hoping the plane is still airborne!

Pat

Grizzly Greg
06-07-2001, 07:27 PM
Pat, thanks for the details...I ordered the plans from AMA yesterday...this is also the same plane that Don Srull has too,right. I saw them on the MAXECUTERS page. Great job.The Hurricane looks very cool as well. In another post I seem to recall that you have had 4 litesticks? are they good planes to learn on? I'm re-entering the hobby after a 30yr layoff and need a good starter setup.
Grizz.

pease1
06-07-2001, 08:50 PM
MMMmmmmmm Photos Goood

(Says Homer Simpson)

My vote - post more photos!

Al

Blackhawk
06-07-2001, 11:40 PM
Good to know folks like photos!!!

Grizz

The F4F was indeed the same one the Don Srull built--also Jack Felter, Ralph Smalley, Bill Cann, Hurst Bowers, Stew Meyers are also building them. Don had gotten some laser cut kits of it made and was sellling them for $20 or so. You might want to send him an email and see if has any left or if he is going to get some more made. The kit was very well done and he had it made with both 1/16 and 3/32 fuselage formers. His email is on the vendor list on RCmicroflight.

The Hurricane is a from a 30inch Cleveland free flight rubber plan that I did for the 40th anniversary of the Battle of Britain (1980) and it has lasted a long time. Converted it to rc this year. I think the Cleveland plans at 30 inches, the Dumas and Herr kits, old Flyline kits and plans, and just about any good rubber scale job is suitable for these small rc guys. My first scratch built rc was a peanut scale plan of the PWS 11 that I enlarged 3x (39 inches) and powered it with a 280. Flew great till a tree ate it.

I have built several litesticks and most recently the pico cub (full fuselage). I didn't think much of the cub until I flew it, and it really flys much better than my sitcks do. Maybe the full fuselage helps make it more stable.

Pat Daily

Blackhawk
06-09-2001, 01:55 PM
Gordon

Thanks for the kind comments on my models. The Maxecuters are a really special group--I have been a Maxecuter since 1973 and they are a great bunch of guys. When I lived in the DC area, I would always go to their meetings, even served as newletter editor for 5 years. Now that I live in Richmond, VA for the last 10 years, we have an annual winter bull session at my place coupled with a trip to Aeroplane Books in Williamsburg ( they have the largest collection of books on planes that I have ever seen--over 7000 new and used ones -- internet site is Aeroplanebooks.com). Over the years, Don Srull has mentored me on lots of things--the guy is an incredible builder and it was his article in Flying Models (fall 1999 the special electric rc issue) that got me into the rc area. Free flight is still a lot of fun, but small electric rc scale is fantastic.

I too, love photos and plans and that is why MAXFAX is so popular. All of these rubber scale jobs can be enlarged into superb rc planes. That is what I did with the Curtiss Hawk--I originally published it as rubber/CO2 in Max Fax at 16 inch span in the early 80s and I just doubled the size and built it like a rubber scale job with thicker wood.

Pat Daily

esox
06-09-2001, 04:01 PM
Pat, I agree whole heartedly! Keep the pics coming. They are a big help to new builders like me. I often scour the net for pictures of small rc planes.

Jack Wheeler

gjohnson
06-10-2001, 12:07 AM
Pat,

I've been meaning to reply to your original post. I like your pictures. Keep them coming. You and the other people in the Maxecuters are clearly masters of the building of small scale electric RC planes. I'm back in the hobby after about 25 years and there is a lot I can learn from pictures of other people's models -- especially yours. Pictures of construction details, or specifics for how you achieved that scale look would also be greatly appreciated.

This BB is a bit different from the one on E-zone. E-zone actively discourages direct posting of photos, while this one encourages it. Direct posting of photos helps keep a truely informational dialogue going. I get a lot of good tips and ideas from the E-zone BB, so don't get me wrong. But I also like the smaller "community" flavor of this one for posting/swapping progress pictures and specifics and ideas. We all learn from each other this way. Pictures are one of the main reasons I subscribe to the British Electric Flight International magazine (which is quite expensive). Pictures are one of the things I like about this BB. Words alone don't due justice to people's models. I know I should take Allan Wright's lead and create a internet site to post pictures and details. The problem is I just haven't had the time. Once a person masters the posting of photos on this BB, it's easy to keep other's informed of your progress. So, keep posting photos.

By the way, I'm planning to join the Maxecuters just so I can get the newsletter and get the tips in it. I doubt I'll be making it to many of the meetings. I have a lot to learn.

--Gordon

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