***3D RC car Project - pics***

[supernitro_guy1]

I hope these pics work, I made it using Autodesk Inventor 8, A great Program.

I know it not the best, but its my first, Im still learning the program, and better design will come, enjoy.

[supernitro_guy1]

Another one

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One More

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last for now, I'll post more on different angles, or certain parts of the car on request, enjoy.

[chevy_94]

hey thats a cool program where did you get it from.

[supernitro_guy1]

Its called AutoDesk Inventor 8. I think they have a website, the program was about $5500

[death_rx78]

someone could steal your ideas! lol just joking...

BTW those are great, nice job!

[supernitro_guy1]

LOL

PLEASE dont steal my Ideas

thanks.

[chevy_94]

well looks like i won't be getting that program....5500 dollars :eek: they think alot of it

[supernitro_guy1]

I was bored and just thought of it, lol.

[trw]

thats looks very tight, clean and neat.


now 5 grand for a program IMO is plain rediculous, take zmodeler for an example, its a free program and you can do exactly that, model stuff with virtual mesh, enlighten me on what else this 5 grand program can do, cause to be honest, for that much it better pour me a drink as well :D

[AudiTT-Quattro]

...enlighten me on what else this 5 grand program can do, cause to be honest, for that much it better pour me a drink as well :D
Real time simulation. It'll cut down on costs to machine a highly technical part only to find that it doesn't meet expectations.

[supernitro_guy1]

I dont know what program youre talking about, but this program is what engineers and professionals use out there, it does animation, it has like a million textures, tons of modeling features, and more, Im still learning it as I said, but so far, its been great, by the way, I didnt buy the program, the company I used to work for issued it to me, to practice at home, then I moved and lost the job, but kept the program, I just started playing with it, Im working on a nitro engine right as i type, I'll post later tonight or tomorrow.

[supernitro_guy1]

I started a nitro engine folder, I just finished the carb body, here it is:

[dirtracer]

i like your 12th scale car....sweet, very inovative. the thing about it is, is that it looks very do-able. :)

[delphidude]

with a novak brushless that pan car could be very fast for not alot of money.

[Matt C]

Very nice! Especially for being new. Stay at it, that is the best start I've seen from anyone!

What you guys don't realize is that Inventor is one of, if not the best, 3D CAD modeling/engineering software available. It can do just about anything you want it to, not just make pretty models. Not trying to outdo supernitro_guy1, but I'll post a pic of my RC10GT wip here...

Kind of a neat who-cares fact: A kid I went to school with (he graduated already) did the Arbor Press included with Inventor as a tutorial file. If you look at it, he misspelled Pennsylvania College of Technology.

Matt

[supernitro_guy1]

wow, wow, wow, thats incredible Matt, makes me want to continue learning the program, I have quite a few parts made on my nitro engine made already, I'll post the finished carburator after i finish the Slide Valve, like 10 more minutes I'll post the carb, thanks for the advice Matt, thanks for the comments guys.

[supernitro_guy1]

It might not be perfect, but I did the best i could

enjoy!

[supernitro_guy1]

another one

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last one. Im working on the engine components now, will post pics when I finish a few of them

[supernitro_guy1]

The Piston Sleeve

[primuswoostinkinhoo]

i dunno if its just me, but that second needle on the carb, the screw with the spring, wont that be hard to get at?

if it was angled up it would make it much easier, when i ran nitro stuff, i always hated trying to get a screw driver on the needles while the car was running cause of the placement of the screws

i dunno if thats how it has to be or if there is a way to change it

other than that, that suff looks awesome

[2.0dohc]

"i dunno if its just me, but that second needle on the carb, the screw with the spring, wont that be hard to get at?"

thats the idle screw, it adjust how fast the engine idles at

that a nice looking four stroke cylinder ;)

[ducati777]

Holy crap guys... I'm always coming up with stupid ideas, I'd love to have that program!!! I'll have to look into a free'er one.

Keep it up, the detail work on that carb is intense!!! Be sweeeeeet if it could simulate the motor running... you could try different virtual port jobs... but thats probably asking too much.

Keep inventing, thats cool. I like the belt drive to center axel idea, pretty slick.

[Matt C]

Running engine? How about this.... I have a avi of it running, but it's about 15MB. I don't have ports done yet, but that will be done in Spring. It's an OS .12 TR, btw.

Supernitro_guy1- that's pretty advanced. in fact, that looks a lot like the nitro engine included with Inventor done by AutoDesk themsleves.....

[primuswoostinkinhoo]

thats sweet

[supernitro_guy1]

Its similar, yes, I needed the dimensions to make the parts, how do you make it move?, I have a piston and rod on the crnakshaft, I went to .IPN file, but cant get the tweaks right so i can animate it, can you help?

and yes, i AM making this myself

[supernitro_guy1]

The engine is on another thread, I just thought it would be better to put it in the nitro forum by itself, you can see my progress and pics there, this tutorials get harder and harder

[supernitro_guy1]

http://forums.radiocontrolzone.com/showthread.php?p=1636437&posted=1#post1636437

[supernitro_guy1]

i did this last Weekend, check it out, Im thinking of actually making it, my old highschol teacher has a machine shop, If I can get in contact with him, I could make all these parts, I think this would be a mini style kind of truck,

any comments or ideas are welcome :)

[supernitro_guy1]

another one, I need to add color to it, I'll post color pics later

[supernitro_guy1]

I did this back in november when I got into the program, HELLO MICROSOFT HOW ABOUT A CUSTOM XBOX? :)

[supernitro_guy1]

I put some color into the mini truck, here it is

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another one

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a better one

[supernitro_guy1]

you people must be getting tired of this, lol

[Flat]

Yes, Inventor is awsome, but Pro-E is the ultimate tho. Anywho, here are a few samples I've done in Inv 5.3. Not and RC car however....

[Flat]

Pic # 2

[Flat]

Last one.....

[Flat]

Here a cool one. Check out the detail. It's done by a guy named Scott Oshita.

http://www.cbliss.com/inventor/Images/Team_Losi_Complete%20.jpg

[supernitro_guy1]

thats quite impressive, Im now working on that little truck, making some nice progress, will post a few pics soon

[supernitro_guy1]

MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

12-24-04
10:07 Pm

[supernitro_guy1]

here it is!

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Another One

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One More

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Another Pic

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More, More, And More....

[supernitro_guy1]

One More, MAry Christmas

[fs454]

Is this program user friendly? Like, could I pick it up with no experience and make something for fun?

[supernitro_guy1]

yes, Ive used the program since mid-november, and You see my progress, At fisrt you want to do the basic tutorials (like making boxes, circles, spheres, buts, holes, rounds edges, simple stuff) then you apply all that with a little of exploring, and its quite easy.

[marvin-pro3]

Can you download it somewhere or isn't it on the net?

[ScMc]

Yes, id like to know some place to purchase it over the net. Thanks.

[supernitro_guy1]

http://estore.autodesk.com/dr/v2/ec_dynamic.main?sp=1&pn=1&sid=19515

there you go

[marvin-pro3]

To exspensive for just a couple off days fun for me.......
Can i donwload somewhere a try and buy version???

[supernitro_guy1]

I dont think they do downloads, I really dont know

[Figit090]

can anyone direct me to a free program in which i can design things like this?? even if it's not to that measure of detail, i just want to execute my ideas and ask people what they think, because i have ideas and i dont think i want to explain them in words!

[supernitro_guy1]

I really have no Idea of a free program that will o what inventor 8 does, its just too much to be free

[B4man]

This isnt R/C related but it shows some CAD stuff for a project im working on. This was all done in Unigraphics NX2. This is about 5,000 hours of work. Its part of a fuselage.

[supernitro_guy1]

thats cool, 5k hours of work, wow, thats a lot of time, keep it up!

[supernitro_guy1]

here's another one of my projects, right now im making a simple onroad car with a nitro engine on it, check it out, thanks.

http://forums.radiocontrolzone.com/showthread.php?p=1647193&posted=1#post1647193

[supernitro_guy1]

anyone else here do this type of stuff, anyone does it for a living? I was just wondering...

[supernitro_guy1]

a little update on the truck

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here's another one

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more pics...

[supernitro_guy1]

another angle

[supernitro_guy1]

last one for now, I still need to do rear shocks, and some type of bumbers, steering links and cables for the electronics, little details like screws and that sort of stuff will be done last.

[TRF Drive Hard]

Man, you guys got some innovative skills... can someone do me a fav? i wanna see a tc chassis that has the motor "inline" where the armature shaft connects 2 ends... via universal... in other words no pinion or spur gear is used... get what im saying?

like this... [1*]----3*[2*]--3*[1*]

1* those are the gearboxes
2* motor
3* universal shafts

this would be a shaft driven car... i hope i didnt confuse you with the cheapo diagram :D

[supernitro_guy1]

if you draw it on paint and post it, I'll be glad to try to make it for you, try to make it was clear as possible, no I dont get you number diagram, sorry.

[TRF Drive Hard]

The numbers are merely reference to what is what... i even confused my self... lol... looks like an algebraic equation... :p

[AudiTT-Quattro]

I think what Teddy described is basically what you see on a 1/8th buggy except that the center diff is replaced by the motor itself. The universals will attach to the output shafts of a double output motor.

Sounds like a great concept but motor selection would be crucial here since the only gearing you have to play with would be in the differentials on either end.

[TRF Drive Hard]

Exactly!!! thanks!!!

[supernitro_guy1]

im still confused man, lol, sorry, Im more of a visual learner :D

[TRF Drive Hard]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v238/TRF4152NR/Inlinemotor.png

[lerningdriver]

anyone else here do this type of stuff, anyone does it for a living? I was just wondering...

heh, I actually do it at school. Right now I'm attempting to draw an SR-71 Blackbird by moving around workplanes and lofting them all together and according to your drawings you probebly know what I'm talking about. You did a great job on them. How much time did you put into that buggy one?

TRF - why have two gearboxes? all it's gonna do is have more rotational mass and kill your acceleration.

[TRF Drive Hard]

Well the gearbox house the diffs is what i really meant...

[lerningdriver]

ohh...interesting concept. you may want to use this motor if you do it

http://www.allelectronics.com/cgi-bin/category.cgi?category=400&item=DCM-215&type=store

good price

[CrazyPhantom]

Hey supernitro, Im intrested in that mini truck design you did, I was wondering If I could use the basic truck design for production? I also like some of your other projects, just trying to get seme premissions for soem basic design idea's you have given me. Let me know,

Joe.

[supernitro_guy1]

I dont know, explain to me in a little more detail what you plan to do, but I guess its ok, I mean i have all these crazy Ideas all the time, I just don do many of them

leaningdriver: yes, I know what you mean, I would do fillets instead of chamfers, just to make it look less like a shaped box, you know, but keep it up.

thanks

[CrazyPhantom]

Super, I like the design you made and I am looking into putting it into production(to sell) do you have any other cool designs and stuff you think would be cool in a production truck or car? do you have an AIM screen name I can talk to you more on or sumthing?

let me know,
Joe

[CrazyPhantom]

Anyone have any skills like this that they would liek to show off?

[supernitro_guy1]

I have a few things here and there, but nothing solid except for this truck and a nitro on-road car that is in the nitro forum (3d engine project) I might just do more stuff when I find time.

[lerningdriver]

I dont know, explain to me in a little more detail what you plan to do, but I guess its ok, I mean i have all these crazy Ideas all the time, I just don do many of them

leaningdriver: yes, I know what you mean, I would do fillets instead of chamfers, just to make it look less like a shaped box, you know, but keep it up.

thanks

what do you mean? .. I'm using work panes and lofting them all together.. it's all gonna be smooth edges. I'm just having trouble with one thing. I sometimes get something like this:
_____ _____
l \_______ ______/
l \____________/
l________________________________________

instead of something like this:
________________________________________
l
l ________________________________________

sorry for the cheesy drawing but I think you get the point.. it's curving where I want it going straight between two workplanes when the next one is larger or smaller.

oh and what's your aim sn?

EDIT: forget the drawing it didn't work

[supernitro_guy1]

nitrokiller123@hotmail.com

thats the MSN one

Sorry guys for little updates, Im opening the program as we speak, will post updates in a while when I actually update something to it.

[supernitro_guy1]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v238/TRF4152NR/Inlinemotor.png


here it is, I hope i did it right, it only took like 5 minutes, so if you need any mods be sure to tell me, glad to help.

[TRF Drive Hard]

Holy crap! ya man thats the idea!!! freakin cool lookin... nice job!!! now my only question is where would be a good spot for the batteries... im trying to get a good weight distribution throughout the chassis... i was thinkin the motor can be mounted somewhat mid front... batteries side x side like [][][] x [][][] with the servo on one side and the esc and reciever on the other... the only chassis to use as a basis would be the evo4, that gearbox come to mind because they are identical... of course the main chassis will be carbon but newly designed to accomodate the new layout... ;)

[supernitro_guy1]

if you once again draw it, I''ll be happy to make a new layout with the batteries and the other stuff, just make it as detailed and easy to understand as possible (a PAINT drawing will do)

[TRF Drive Hard]

Aw man, i dont have such... just the basic microsoft paint... i had publishers 2002 on my laptop but i had to do a full system restore... and now i dont have the cd... ima try but i dont got skills for this lol

[lerningdriver]

how about on the sides of the motor? or under the driveshafts? (sideways)

[TRF Drive Hard]

Well not on the sides of the motor, trying to keep the cg as low as possible... so if placed in the mid rear just about center to the shaft, side x side...

[supernitro_guy1]

You said you have the basic paint? thats what I mean, oh yeah, let me post some pics of the 95% finished mini truck , just a few minutes

[supernitro_guy1]

The truck Is basecally Done except for driveshafts and cables (Whicj I still dont know how to do, Im doing tutorials on the SWEEP feature, so I'll do it as I learn.

Here is a little design that I did on the front bumber support, its like a little man flying or something, I actually think its quite cool :D

[supernitro_guy1]

Here's the rear bumper, Cool Heh? LOL

[supernitro_guy1]

Gotta have it Right, never know who's watching... :D ;)

[supernitro_guy1]

The front bumper, I think its one of my favorite parts of the car along with the little flying man design ad the drivetrain and shocks etc...

[supernitro_guy1]

Probably the last picture you will see of my Super Mini V.1 Project, other versions might come as I come up with ideas, i thought of some type of upper decks, but its not really neccesary, but who knows...

I appreciate any feedback, thanks

John

[lerningdriver]

when you try to make lines that curve in and out, use a bunch of ellipses and circles and just trim them around, it may take some time but the result is nice and smooth.

oh and I'd.. umm.. remove the bumper probebly.. either that or reinforce it, the way it is right now it's just adding up weight. won't do much to stop the truck. especially with that one mount holding it.

[supernitro_guy1]

LOL, yeah, dont think I didnt think of that, but I mean, I wont be making the truck or anything, and if I did, I would defenetly change it, thanks though.

[murphy3688]

are those lipos on there? or did you just smush six cells together? and are you gonna put wiring on there or can you even?

the motor is my favorite part! air cooled slots, chromed. excellent job. is that an old school futaba esc?

[supernitro_guy1]

yeah, thanks, Im still learning the sweep feature, which is used to make cables and wires and so forth, but yes I'll do it later on.

[DBracer]

thats is pretty crazy man, how hard is it to make those?

[supernitro_guy1]

I'd say it depends on you ability to understand and calculate stuff, its all about your brain buddy, I was quick to learn and Im pretty proud of what i can do now, it took a few months, but here I am, but it shouldnt be to hard for any dummie.

[DBracer]

is there anywhere you can get the software for free? i dont think i can spend $5,000 on a program...

[supernitro_guy1]

here's another new project, it is a 3 motor monster truck, I'll post one pic here, but all the updates are in another thread in the nitro forum (3D Engine Project) Check it out :)

[CrazyPhantom]

hey, fi Iwanted a CAD drawlign doen (A prototype design) could I send you like a drawling on paper in the mail or sumthing any you make it?

[supernitro_guy1]

I'll be more than glad to help you out. make sure you send several angles and details and stuff like that, but yes that would be fine.

[*Supreme Losi*]

Hey Guys. I found CadStd. I thought it would be like this, so I downloaded it. Big mistake. Looks like sheit!

[supernitro_guy1]

LOL, there are few programs that look even close. I got a copy of SolidWorks Student Design Kit sitting in my desk, its the same as Inventor 8, only inventor is a little easier to work with, i just like it better, but its a pretty good program.

[supernitro_guy1]

Here is an Update on the Truck, so far the stuff missing is of Course cables, screws all over the place, ummm, and an antenna. If anyone knows about electric wiring, if anyone can do a diagram showing which cables go where? sorry for the stupidity but I have a nitro.

I will put the middle motor a little higher. I think...

[supernitro_guy1]

Top view, note the 18 cells ;)

[supernitro_guy1]

Heres the Wheel and Tire Im Using, if anyone has an idea, please post it, but I think its nice, thanks.

[supernitro_guy1]

MY nitro Evader's DTX. 18, by the way, let me go ahead and say, yes I MADE THIS ENGINE, see last time I made an engine with the inventor tutorials and samples, people start thinking I wanted credit for it, well, this one is MINE and mine only :), j/k, no really, I made it by looking at the actual engine in my hand, I think it looks really cool.

[TRF Drive Hard]

That 18 cell is crazylicious!

[Specializer]

something i did with inventor 9 pro..my school supplies it...im on the robotics team

[Specializer]

i actualy made all of that stuff already...my dad and i made it actually

[*Supreme Losi*]

I will post some pics of the wiring diagram if you post a diagram of the electronics layout off of the truck.

[supernitro_guy1]

I just need to know what wires go from where to where to I can do it on the truck, ou can just type it, i cant seem to find a good pic on some website that shows where the cables go and where they come from, please help me out

Thanks.

[GladwinJay]

Not a car but.......

3D View (http://webpages.charter.net/gladwinjay/3d%20view.jpg)
Side View (http://webpages.charter.net/gladwinjay/side.jpg)

Let me know what you think

[supernitro_guy1]

wow, thats really cool, was it hard to make?

[GladwinJay]

The models are not hard to make, I do it day in and day out at work.

The design....kinda tricky. I under estimated the design of the rear suspension. I bet I have a week into that alone. I am using existing shocks and springs, modded Blizzard track, and trying to keep it "scale". With all of that it was a bit challenging to get the geometry correct. But then again that's half the fun.

[TMaxxBenny25]

Looks like a race snowmobile like the X-Games 1's!

[packerfan3022]

here are some wheels i drew up quick! My first drawing....ever!

http://onlyrcs.com/images/wheel1%20(1).jpg
http://onlyrcs.com/images/wheel1%20(2).jpg
http://onlyrcs.com/images/wheel1%20(3).jpg
http://onlyrcs.com/images/wheel1.jpg

I was just guessing on the sizes,,,,Eventually i will be making rims! My dad has a friend who owns a machinje shop :)

But first i have to make some GOOD designs....How do i colr the filets?

What do you think of these wheels? What would be some good design for wheels?

[CrazyPhantom]

hey, I havent been back here to check up on the forum lately, Like I said earlier, if I need some thing done on CAD, I will just shoot you some pictures at a bunch of angles and you can make them for me right?if so sweet. Check out my website. www.CrazyPhantom.com , also, if anyone needs a website made, contact me as I make websites as a job now.

[AudiTT-Quattro]

Top view, note the 18 cells ;)
There is one major flaw I believe you may have overlooked in your design. The center motor will be chewing up belts like no tomorrow. Regardless of how much tension you have on that belt, the center pulley will have very little teeth contact. Even if you add belt tensions to increase pulley-belt contact, you'll lose it all in efficiency. One very easy remedy would be to use some good old fashion industrial age principles; one big motor will be more efficient than a bunch of little ones.

I'm just curious if you plan on carrying out with all of these designs or are they just experiments? Some interesting stuff though!

[supernitro_guy1]

i dont know, first I have no money, I do it for fun mostly, I love designing stuff and getting feedback.

Packerfan: thats a great start, I was making boxes as my first designs, you making rims!!! to coloe the fillets, you can do ow things, one, right click on the filet and click properties, select color, click OK. two,, go to your browser bar and find the fillet and right click (in the fillet n the browser bar, go to properties and select color.

hope I helped.

Phantom: of course, just post them or send them, I'll be glad to help.

[packerfan3022]

thanks!

[supernitro_guy1]

no problem, soon, you'll be posting your own rc car desings and stuff, enjoy it

[packerfan3022]

How can i add dimensions to my final drawing? Thanks..

[supernitro_guy1]

you mean on a DWN. File??

[CrazyPhantom]

ok, I got some pictures, It has a coupel of angles, you dont have to make the dimensions exactly right, just so it looks kinda even.
here they are:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v417/Area51Project/New12.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v417/Area51Project/New8.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v417/Area51Project/New7.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v417/Area51Project/New6.jpg
let me know if you have any problems or questions, it will be greatly appriciated when this is done,

Thanks,
Joe

[supernitro_guy1]

whoa, that will be quite challenging, but it can certainly be done, this is a 2wd? i cant see how the engines or the clutchbells come together because the fuel tank is in the way, other than that, thats just owesome, i'll be glad to work on it in my free time, it'll be fun, i'll just put my other projects to the side and do this one, but it might take time, just be patient with me.

[supernitro_guy1]

I can only see so much of the car, so please excuse me if I mess up on a certain part, i'll post the cassis so far in a sec...

[supernitro_guy1]

here it is

[supernitro_guy1]

The rear so far

[supernitro_guy1]

update

[DBracer]

whoa! the chassis... its clear. WHOA... its got two engines... thats pretty cool crazy phantom. how do you intend on controlling both of them at the exact same speed? thats going to need a lot of fine tuning.

tell me when its done!

[CrazyPhantom]

the chassis will later be carbon fiber, the lexan is just a mock up chassis. Supernitro, can you make that chassis carbon fiber too, sorry. Lookign great so far tho, thanks for the help.

Joe

[supernitro_guy1]

sure, first i'll make the parts, then add colors and textures after its all done, but yes, I can do that.

[CrazyPhantom]

ok kool, put the same shock tower from the back onto the front.

Thanks alot,
Joe

[CrazyPhantom]

whoa, that will be quite challenging, but it can certainly be done, this is a 2wd? i cant see how the engines or the clutchbells come together because the fuel tank is in the way, other than that, thats just owesome, i'll be glad to work on it in my free time, it'll be fun, i'll just put my other projects to the side and do this one, but it might take time, just be patient with me.


It is 4wd, the driveshafts just havent came from RC Alloys yet.

[supernitro_guy1]

ok, I coulnt do anything today because i went to the track earlier today to watch the action, then came back and had to read 77 pages of a shakespeare book for a project thats due monday, sorry man, but i'll work on it when I have more time.

[krisI.925]

Um acutally inventor isnt that great of a program. Actually it really kinda sucks. For the novice who wants to just make CSMs its fine. But its no where near up there with Catia, Envoia or even Solid Works. But good work tho. Must have taken a while to draw that up.

[supernitro_guy1]

i have solidworks student design kit, and inventor is much better in my opinion, but thats only a design kit for students, but still, inventor is a great ptogram, I enjoy it a lot. thanks though.

[CrazyPhantom]

send me a PM when you have some updates, so I can see the PM in my e-mails

[supernitro_guy1]

im working on it as I type...

[supernitro_guy1]

here is the design...

[CrazyPhantom]

wow, that is really sweet, for the steering ,just make soemthing up that seems to fit, since I havent came up with a steering design yet, and fore the motors, just use 1 of ones you have made your self before, and add a puple head, also, would you beable to put the motors on like a 45% slant in a "V" style set up? I dont mean to force you to do this, or rush you, just like minor design updatesI have recently done.

Greatly appriciated,
Joe

[jxdxwx]

Here is my Revo wheel in Inventor.

Exact 1:1 scale.
Chrome plated White Plastic with Rubber Tire.

[jxdxwx]

Back view.

[supernitro_guy1]

oh my god JXD, thats freaking, WOW, no words, hey man, how did you do the thread on the tires, I never figured it out, hey Joe, I dont get you about the 45 percent slant, oh yeah, i'll make the engines just so it looks best, I dont the the DTX will lok just right, plus is more fun for me, but please explain or draw up something in paint and post it so I can do it. Hope everything Im doing is right.

[jxdxwx]

Draw one full section of your tread to be patterned on an offset plane and extrude it toward the contoured tire surface using "to next" as the "distance". Make it tall enough to trim excess in profiling.
You will have to pattern the tread around the tire by the desired number and spacing.

The tread will be kinda square and sharp looking because you are extruding it from a flat surface.
You will then have to draw an outer tread profile from a centered plane and extrude it around the diameter to trim your tread into shape.

Here is a hint: If you arent drawing in 1:1 Scale you are wasting your time and may as well be drawing in Paintshop Pro.


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I have completely dis-assembled a new revo down to every spring, screw and gear and then reverse engineered it in Inventor. Making exact scale drawings referencing the manufacturers part numbers for every part.

Still have the mechanical assembly in Inventor ahead of me, Axial constraints is the easy part, determining the degrees of freedom of each moving part will be a little more difficult and will have to be physically measured at assembly.
But as it stands now I am able to fully reproduce a truck, controller, EZ StartII and all the electronics (parts and tooling) using my drawings.
That was a bunch of work. The revo was much much harder than the T-Maxx 2.5 I did a while back.

[supernitro_guy1]

Wow, I cant get that technical yet, remeber ive only been using it sisnce november, but i am working on 1:1 scale, or as close as i can, I usually dimension most of the parts when i have a measurement., thanks for the directions for the tread, I'll try it and see how I got, oh yeah, could you post some of the things you have done, I like to appreciate other's work and learn as much, i would appreciate if you posted a few things, Id love to see the t-maxx and revo stuff, thanks J.

[supernitro_guy1]

oh, yeah, what version of Inventor are you using? (JXDXWX)

[jxdxwx]

I am running Inventor 8.0 for mechanical and Multisim 7 for electrical.

[supernitro_guy1]

HERE MY FIRST TRY AT TREADED TIRES, MY FIRST, IT LOOKS GOOD, i COULDNT FIGURE OUT THE BY DISTANCE THING YOU SAID, oops, CAPS, sorry, but here is my first threaded tire

[supernitro_guy1]

another shot

[supernitro_guy1]

hey, By looking at you pics of the wheel and rite, i see that there are no lines in the pic and looks cleaner, how do you get rid of the lines all around? thanks man, I appreciate it.

[supernitro_guy1]

nevermind, I fount it on display options. cool, 701 posts, LOL

[jxdxwx]

Shock Assembly

[jxdxwx]

nevermind, I fount it on display options. cool, 701 posts, LOL


Yea, them edge lines drove me crazy for a while too.

A little trick you may not know. If you draw a perfectly round sphere (ball) and color it with a reflective color (use Blue Chrome) you will clearly see the picture that Inventor uses as the reflectective shadowing.
You can find the .BMP file and replace it with your own also.

Have you got the Carbon Fiber texture yet ? It will look sweet with some of your designs.

[supernitro_guy1]

I present to you, the first ever JC-R 1, thats the name, designed by me, John, I'll post more pics, i need to put some color on it, lol. enjoy

[supernitro_guy1]

another shot

[supernitro_guy1]

I'll try it with black chrome, Oh yeah, I have some desings with carbon fiber, look around, I have plenty...

[jxdxwx]

Here is an early picture of a main base assembly of a tank drive setup that I made for a robot project.
Those are wheel chair motors with electric brakes. They are geared really low and with the weight and traction you couldnt stop it if you tried.

[supernitro_guy1]

thats cool, how did you say I can out my own pic in it?

[supernitro_guy1]

I am involved in the design of a robot for school, and we use CIM motors, it is for a competition, Im only helping in the design though. so I kinda know what its about.

[jxdxwx]

Look for CAR3.BMP in your textures folder.

Just rename it to something else. and put your picture in the folder and rename it to CAR3.BMP

LOL I know there is a better way to reference your picture in the program. But for now, thats all I know.

[supernitro_guy1]

Here is the last update on the electric monster truck, Its finished as fas as Im going with it because of other projects, but it looks really good, enjoy

[supernitro_guy1]

another angle

[supernitro_guy1]

the last one for this project

[jxdxwx]

SuperNitro_Guy1 You are pretty good at drawing. It is obvious that you put alot of time into your projects.
Here is a tip for you.
Buy a pair of Dial calipers and maybe even a micrometer. You can get digital if you cant read dial. They are cheap on Ebay or get em at a hardware or electronics store.

Take the simplest parts from your R/C car or truck and measure them and draw them up exactly as they measure.

That way you will always have them and can add them to you future projects.
Do that every chance you get.
You will find that you can draw parts a heck of a lot faster if you have the dimensions at your fingertips.
Just about all of the hardware you will ever need is already available in iParts. You dont have to draw them.

You can design your chassis around standard parts and even design aftermarket parts and have them machined.

....Speaking of which, Did you ever get anywhere with the machine shop you were planning to contact a couple months back ?

I make really good money selling drawings and designs using Inventor. There is nothing stopping you from doing the same if you keep putting the effort into Inventor as you have done. You already know how to draw. Just add the measuring and you are doing engineer work. It is really that easy. The rest you get with experience.
But remember, What you are doing is only cartoon art if you arent drawing to 1:1 scale.

[jxdxwx]

Carbon Fiber T-Maxx

[jxdxwx]

Bike Tire

[CrazyPhantom]

hello,
sorry I was gone for the weekend, I made this drawing on paint ( I suck at paint) it shows what I was talking about with the motors slanted.

Hope you get it,
Joe

P.S., amazing job on those other projects

[supernitro_guy1]

Allright phantom, Here is a rough look at what the engines might end up looking like, it still needs alot of work, I know, but Im having fun, im sleppy and got school tomorrow, but I'll work on it after school if i can, you know how it is , all that schoolwork and stuff, but, if I get on it tomorrow, I'll probably have the drivetrain finished, but no promises, but Im really enjoying helping you out and getting experience witht the program, i might just end up in some company designing cars like I do now, only I'll be getting paid to design RC's!, anyway, here is a rough design.

[CrazyPhantom]

Allright phantom, Here is a rough look at what the engines might end up looking like, it still needs alot of work, I know, but Im having fun, im sleppy and got school tomorrow, but I'll work on it after school if i can, you know how it is , all that schoolwork and stuff, but, if I get on it tomorrow, I'll probably have the drivetrain finished, but no promises, but Im really enjoying helping you out and getting experience witht the program, i might just end up in some company designing cars like I do now, only I'll be getting paid to design RC's!, anyway, here is a rough design.

Hey, It looks great, maybe you will be working for me designing r/c cars. I plan on getting solidworks 2005 tomarro, do you think for a beginner, solidworks would be good?

[jxdxwx]

Solidworks 2005 is a good program. Some of the colors and effects are kind of cartoony but that really only affects the visualization.
It will do everything you need it to do and more.

You can now import inventor files into solidworks.

[CrazyPhantom]

I might buy AutoCad LT 2005 as well, how much money is inventor?

[supernitro_guy1]

it goes for 5500 as far as i know, i have the sollidworks student design kit, which does all the same design stuff that inventor does, but I find Inventor easier to work with, yes, it does have better textures and colors, so i prefer invento over solidworks, but its very good., im working on your car right now...

[supernitro_guy1]

wow, im amazed at how nice is coming out, here i the latest, tell me if I did somethimg wrong so I can work on it.

John

PS: I love this job :D :D :D :D :D

[supernitro_guy1]

yes, the engines are not finishes, I need to do some detail and of course, do the carbs. LOL, sorry I forgot to mention, you probably though, where are the carbs?, LOL, im sleepy, sorry man, I gotta get my sleep, LOL, bye

jonh, cat even spell my name, LOL

[CrazyPhantom]

lokos very ncie, but for the driveshaft, make it one long drive shaft, with just a gear mounted on the middle of it, dont have the tranny set up on it, it looks really sweet, thanks alot. Yeah, I ordered the solidworks student kit as well. I cant wait for it to come in, next year, im taking a cad engineering class at my highschool.

Thanks,
Joe

[supernitro_guy1]

no problem, so basecly, you just want a driveshaft with a gear on it?, allright, that will be fine, this would probably be close to where I can go until you update your design as far as electronics, steering, servos, and all that and I'll updtade as you go or, you can give me a visual (Pic or Paint, whatever) of where the other stuff will be placed and linked and everything so i can work on it, but I'll go and take out the tranny set up and post a new pic. Yeah, solidworks does all that inventor does as far as modeling and design, its really easy to work with, not easier than inventor 8 though, but good buy.

[supernitro_guy1]

here is the way I understod it, i hope is good, if not tell me what you want to change, but I think it looks good. :cool:

[CrazyPhantom]

yes, that is exactly how it is set up. I will try to get some pictures in a while here the servos and electronis will be mounted.could you keep working on he motors while I try to get the electronis set up?

Thanks,
Joe

[DBracer]

lol supernitro guy1, is this guy paying you to do this, or are you doing it for free? You have put a lot of work into this, and im sure you havent worked on the stuff you wanted to do for a while... :rolleyes: ;)

and just curious, how many hours have you put into this, or any other creation? i dont think i could do that. I tried making a web site once, failed when i got bored of updating it and stuff...

[CrazyPhantom]

lol, I make websites :) im ordering solidworks so I can hopefully do this by my self in a little while.

[supernitro_guy1]

I actually really enjoy making this stuff, its probably going to end up somewhere as a part of my career, so I might as well work on it as uch as I can, so far this car (CrazyPhantom's) has about 7 Hours of work put into it over a period of, what, 1 or 2 weeks, so its not that bad, its been fun, yes phantom, I'll keep working on the litle things in the engine and chassis (Like little screws, pins, and whatnot) while you put some new pics in. Ive been doing several things, I have a Formula 1, or Open-wheeled, whatever you want to call it project in my mind, i have some hand drawn sketches with dimensions that I did in school while in math class( I was bored to death), so i'll probably do some of that once a while, or when i finish this one, also the electric car has gone through some change (the one of top of the page), I put some colors and textures in, I'll post some of it tomorrow hopefully, but i havent sone anything today as far as CAD stuff, only at school, helping out with their new robot for a summer competition, I was put in the design "Team" (Im designing it myself), it'll be a lot of fun, oh yeah and LOTS OF EXTRA CREDIT :)

John

i'll update tomorrow.

[supernitro_guy1]

here's an update of my JC-1, its lamost finished, i need to do wires, a front bumber, and of course wheels.

[supernitro_guy1]

nother pic

[supernitro_guy1]

wirrd color, looks cool though

[supernitro_guy1]

i'll post so more later on, hey Phantom, got anything yet?

[supernitro_guy1]

top view

[supernitro_guy1]

another picture

[supernitro_guy1]

the powerplant

[supernitro_guy1]

the batteries and Custom SuperNitro Racing Strap :D :cool: :cool:

[supernitro_guy1]

one more

[DBracer]

wow thats pretty nice man, is that on road, or off road?

[CrazyPhantom]

Nah, I didnt get any updates yet, been busy with school and website designing

[CrazyPhantom]

this sucks, UPS scrude up on the shipping location, so I didnt get my Solidworks 2005 today, Im so mad, been waiting for it. I rush home, and I dont see it there, so I check the tracking #, and they accidently like sent it to NY or some crap.

[supernitro_guy1]

I couldnt work on anything today, sorry, the JC-1 is an Onroad, couldnt you tell? LOL, what kinda job have I done j/k.

Hope you get your solidworks soon, its owesome.

[CrazyPhantom]

The first thing I plan on building is my summer project in solidworks, a totally custom Go-kart. The gokart will have 15" car rims and tires, 13hp motor,gages, and a custom suspension set up. It is going to be a good learning project to start off with in solidworks, cause it will probelly use most of the tools provided on solid works.

let me know what you guys think,
Thanks,
Joe

[CrazyPhantom]

supernitro, you are using solidworks right? if so can you send me the CAD file, I got my solid works and I am messing with it.
Thanks,
Joe

[CrazyPhantom]

my first attemp at Solidworks, I think it turned out pretty good, it is sapose to be a air bag for air ride suspension.

let me know what ya think

[supernitro_guy1]

thats great work joe, its a great start, I barely could make boxes when I started, but No, Im not using SolidWorks, Im Using Autodest inventor 8. I have solidworks, but I dont use it much because I like Inventor better, it just works better for me. Hey, thats a great project to start with, good luck with that.

For me to send you the actual file of the car, I need to know if solidworks uses IPT. Files, if it doesnt, that It would be of no use. And how would I send it? its a good 8 MB, if you can tell me how, I'll be glad to. Right now Im not working on it as I have nothing to do to it, so Im wondering off with some Ideas, I did some rims for the electric car that Im about to finish, I'll post a pic soon. It seems like it might snow In this area tomorrow, so I might not have school, I'll spnd my morning working on CAD stuff for sure, or just playing my xbox online.

PS: Great start Joe, Keep it up, Looks really good, keep me updated with pics and stuff, you might just start your own "CAD Custom Go-Cart" thread, that would be cool to let people see your skills, and you seem to be on your way to a really nice project.

John

[supernitro_guy1]

BTW, I just checked the CAD file and the dimensions are crazy, they seem to be Tiny for some reason, but I cant seem to change it now, anyone know how to enlarge the whole thing?

[jxdxwx]

Solidworks 2005 will read the Autodesk Inventor 8.0 .IPT files.

Yes they are large files but if you zip them they should be small enough to manage quite easily.

Use WinRar if you have it. Go to www.download.com if you dont.
You can get a shareware version there.

SuperNitro....are you drawing 1:1 scale yet? haha.

What makes em 'tiny' ?
Are you are drawing in MM and maybe accidentally converted to Inch. Or vise-versa???

[CrazyPhantom]

here is a production 1/10 scale car design I'v been making.

tell me what you think.

,
Joe

[CrazyPhantom]

another picture without tires

[supernitro_guy1]

That looks great Joe, you giving me some competition here? J/K, nice work.

I found that I was using MM, not inches for this particular drawing. ive been using 1:1, or as close as possible in most recent ones, not this one though, I dont know how or why, is there any way to reverse it to inches? Sorry.

Joe, nice work, you're actually making it?

Nice work.

[supernitro_guy1]

Dang, i couldnt do that on solidworks, I tried learning the program, but Inventor is so much easier... You're a FAST learner, i expected to see little boxes and cilrcles and little pieces at first, but now you're making production cars? WOW, you smart man, you smart.

[Dirk Jan]

Those cars are looking great. I work with Solid Works 2003 / 2005 at my work. I didn't draw an rc car yet, but I did draw my computerscreen/keyboard. If I have time I will design an rc car also, because your rides looks great and that wants to make me one too :)

[CrazyPhantom]

That looks sweet, here is the dual motor version I made , http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v417/Area51Project/Dualdiablo.jpg

let me know what you think,
Joe

[Dirk Jan]

That looks really nice. I don't know if I see it right, but it looks like you made everything in one 'part' using different planes to sketch the different parts of the car. If you did; try to draw every part seperately and 'bolt them together' in an assembly, that will work more convenient :) I may be wrong, but I see so much origins.

Keep up the good work, you indeed learn fast :cool:

[supernitro_guy1]

Dual motor will be great, good job man, any updates on Armaggeddon?

[supernitro_guy1]

Here's my newest Project I just started today, Its Called SN Racing Jc2005 It will probably have two versions made, an electric and a Nitro one, both will have 3-speed transmissions and will be based on this chassis...

[supernitro_guy1]

another shot

[supernitro_guy1]

last one for now..

[CrazyPhantom]

That looks really nice. I don't know if I see it right, but it looks like you made everything in one 'part' using different planes to sketch the different parts of the car. If you did; try to draw every part seperately and 'bolt them together' in an assembly, that will work more convenient :) I may be wrong, but I see so much origins.

Keep up the good work, you indeed learn fast :cool:

I made all the parts seperate then put them together. Supernitro, it looks great, do you know if I can get gears into solidworks some how? cause I think it would be a pain to make them over and over again, in inventor, does it just like come with a gear tool?

let me know,
Joe

[jxdxwx]

Like SuperNitroGuy, I am self taught in 3d modeling software and I have used both Inventor and Solidworks. Inventor is a lot easier to learn for me, so I shelved Solidworks a while back and do most of my work in Inventor. Still use SW for some customers.

Just about any hardware you will ever need, including but not limited to all sizes of chains, sprockets, belts, hinges, linear guides, air cylinders, gears, screws, nuts, bolts, timing pullies are all at your disposal in Autodesk Inventor with the iParts feature. Even 1:1 scale people.

I dont know if solidworks has anything similar. I really cant see any serious use for it if it does not have a similar feature. But if it does it wont be called iparts, so you will have to do some creative studying or internet searching.

...If you find out anything let us know.

Hope it helps.

[supernitro_guy1]

iPARTS? whats that , can you explain? 1:1 people? what!? please, I need to know...LOL, no really, can you please teell me?

CarzyPhantom: In inventor, the way i do my gears is, first: I make a cricle and extrude it, then I place a sketch plane in one of the faces and use the POLYGON feature set at 3 (Triangle) and fill the cricle with triangles starting from the center to form the gears, then I cut the outside of the triangles and fillet all the little gears, I can post step by step pics? I hope I helped, hey, My solidworks is not even installed in my computer, LOL

JXDXWX: what do you do for a living? you said you have costumers? what do you do...thanks. sorry for being nosey

[CrazyPhantom]

Here is my latest update, I need to redesign the motor mount do it can fit between the batteries. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v417/Area51Project/Diablo12.jpg

Thanks,
Joe

[KawadaKid]

Supernitro_guy,

Those are all very nice drawings, Ive just gotten back into doing inventor at school this semester and am having alot of fun.

One note though, it looks like the upper link on some of your work would creat some killer roll center angles. Just a suggestion, maybe put the upper link so its a little closer to being parallel to the lower arm.

[supernitro_guy1]

Thanks for the suggestion, and yeah, I noticed but it was late, now I moved on, Ive been told this earlier, yeah I see, Ive corrected it in my newest designs though, and I'll never do it again, im actually thinking more aout what I design unlike before, I would just draw up stuff as it came to my head, which is why most have physical issues and stuff like that.

Phantom: let me ask, is that the width of the final version of the car? It looks like it should be wider, just a sugestion, but it looks owesome man, great job as a starter.

here's an update on my SR Racing Jc2005

[supernitro_guy1]

another Shot of the SN Racing .25 :D :D

[jxdxwx]

iPARTS? whats that , can you explain? 1:1 people? what!? please, I need to know...LOL, no really, can you please teell me?

CarzyPhantom: In inventor, the way i do my gears is, first: I make a cricle and extrude it, then I place a sketch plane in one of the faces and use the POLYGON feature set at 3 (Triangle) and fill the cricle with triangles starting from the center to form the gears, then I cut the outside of the triangles and fillet all the little gears, I can post step by step pics? I hope I helped, hey, My solidworks is not even installed in my computer, LOL

JXDXWX: what do you do for a living? you said you have costumers? what do you do...thanks. sorry for being nosey


SuperNitro,
I own a machine shop, also do contract manufacturing as well as manufacture a couple of mechanical and electronic products of my own.
Do most of my engineering and design work in Inventor. Started out with SolidWorks a few years back but majority of my customers either use AutoCad or Inventor so I went with it. Still have some call for SW though.
Iparts will open up a whole new world for you if you are serious about design and if you draw in exact 1:1 scale.
Here is one source for parts, There are several sources out there, just do some Google searches for Inventor and Iparts.

http://www.cbliss.com/inventor/Parts/index.htm

CrazyPhantom,
You really hit the ground running, keep up the good work!

[jxdxwx]

iPARTS? whats that , can you explain? 1:1 people? what!? please, I need to know...LOL, no really, can you please teell me?

CarzyPhantom: In inventor, the way i do my gears is, first: I make a cricle and extrude it, then I place a sketch plane in one of the faces and use the POLYGON feature set at 3 (Triangle) and fill the cricle with triangles starting from the center to form the gears, then I cut the outside of the triangles and fillet all the little gears, I can post step by step pics? I hope I helped, hey, My solidworks is not even installed in my computer, LOL

JXDXWX: what do you do for a living? you said you have costumers? what do you do...thanks. sorry for being nosey


SuperNitro,
I own a machine shop, also do contract manufacturing as well as manufacture a couple of mechanical and electronic products of my own.
Do most of my engineering and design work in Inventor. Started out with SolidWorks a few years back but majority of my customers either use AutoCad or Inventor so I went with it. Still have some call for SW though.
Iparts will open up a whole new world for you if you are serious about design and if you draw in 1:1 scale.
The 1:1 people are for references for designing ergonomic equipment.
Here is one source for parts, There are several sources out there, just do some Google searches for Inventor and Iparts.

http://www.cbliss.com/inventor/Parts/index.htm

CrazyPhantom,
You really hit the ground running, keep up the good work!

[supernitro_guy1]

Thats truely amazing, thanks, thats incredible, how much stuff you can find on that site and the links, Im gonna check some stuff out, hey, do you just download the parts and use them as normal .IPT files? like open up a assembly file and place components?

thanks for the info.

John

[jxdxwx]

Thats truely amazing, thanks, thats incredible, how much stuff you can find on that site and the links, Im gonna check some stuff out, hey, do you just download the parts and use them as normal .IPT files? like open up a assembly file and place components?

thanks for the info.

John


Yes, Put them in your drawing and then before you contrain them to an assembly you can click on them and adjust the properties. (like change a #10-32x1.00" screw to a #8-32x1.00" SHCS.)
Some of the parts you will find will not show up on your screen.
If thats the case, all you have to do is move the 'end of part' to the bottom of the list. That will complete the part. They do that because it makes the file smaller for uploading and downloading. Dont know how or why, but it does.

Have fun with it.

[jxdxwx]

SuperNitro,
Another trick is that you can do math in the text box where you enter dimensions in Inventor.

Like if you want to put a hole exactly in the center of say the y axis on a part that measures 19.277. An example would be knowing your y dimension is 19.227. You would place a hole in the part and dimension it like this in the text box. "19.277/2"
Sounds like not much of a shortcut but once you get more involved with Inventor you will use the heck out of that feature. You can also use multiple equasions and reference other dimension labels on the feature so that they change automatically when other changes are made.


When drawing a feature in sketch mode you can also move your pointer along edges that you want to line your feature up with and you will see a real light dotted line when you move away from the edge. You can do that with more than one edge at a time and you will see your pointer turn green when both edges are lined up.

Also the pointer turns green when you are centered on a line. Helps you find center of a line on any axis quickly and easily.

But, if you draw something, say a circle centered in a box the way I said, It will be hard for you to un-constrain it from the drawing if you need to adjust it off center. Thats why I always use the math in the box more than the self centering helper.

Also if you are designing in Inches and you need to add a metric dimension you can do it without converting it by just adding it like this example in the text box. "29.22mm"
Also works vice-versa.


Regarding Iparts Hardware.....
And speaking of MM, Look at your R/C cars parts manual to determine if your screws and bearings are metric or Inch. They will be easy to detail using the Iparts feature once you have identifed them.
A lot of R/C cars use the same size screws. Should help with your projects just to use the same size screws and hardware as your car uses. Takes a lot of the guesswork out. Afterall other engineers specified that exact hardware so you know it cant be too bad of a choice.

PS cant stress enough for you to draw to scale and get a set of calipers to help.

[ILuvMyB4]

jeez. it makes me want one of those programs. im always coming up with different ideas for a custom rc and that program would relieve me of all the ideas built up in my head. then i could build one and post it right on this thread...

[supernitro_guy1]

thanks for the math trick, I was already using the dotted lined and green dots in the center of the line, it was one of the first things I learned, but I didnt know you coul put equations and stuff, thanks.

phnatom: any updates?

[supernitro_guy1]

here's the rim and tire

hey, what the heck happened to the file size limit, now instead of being like 78kb , now it is like 60kb, what the?

[supernitro_guy1]

heres an update, note: the car is not finished.

[ILuvMyB4]

thats a sweet rim. if only i had a cool touring car to put rims on. rims on a buggy wouldnt look to good.

[supernitro_guy1]

more pics

[supernitro_guy1]

thanks B4, hey this is alot of fun, you should try and get some type of 3d design program, its just owesome.

last pic

[ILuvMyB4]

lots of progress from the first design. i like this one with the rims and stuff. do you know what the body is going to look like? that would tie it together.

[supernitro_guy1]

This is the first one that I actially plan to put a body on, though difficult for me because Im not an expert with the program, im looking foward to workng on it, its gonna be really simple, but nice.

[supernitro_guy1]

WOW, I just thought of this, The JC-1 (Rims and stuff car) will have a nitro vesion!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ILuvMyB4]

ok. make it and post it. how long does it take to make one of these cars on the program?

[supernitro_guy1]

OK, here's the rough plan, I really like it and I think its close to the final one, what you think, of course, it will have a nice spoiler in the back and some body kit effects all over, but firls I have to figure out how to make the basic shape and make it look smooth, see, Ive never made anything close to this, so it will take some serious thinking, as far as how long something liek this takes to make, I think this body could take about 3-4 hours.

The Jc-1 took about 11 hours, the monster truck took like 15, thats a very rough number though, just a guess, but im sure its close to that

[ILuvMyB4]

sweet. if you make an engine, can you just take that engine and place it in the car? or do you hav to make a whole new engine just for that specific car?

[TMaxxBenny25]

That looks sweet!

[supernitro_guy1]

here it is, the hardest thing Ive done so far, the body, some of this stuff was a pain in the .......eyebrow, LOL

IM LOVING IT !!!!!!!!!!

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Another angle

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fast and furious stuff, LOL

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This is a side shot, I think it ended up looking half of what the rough plan was, but I think it looks good, what you think???/?

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heres another shot, note the windshield

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Here's the last shot for now.

I still need to make the holes for body posts, which also need to be made in the car, and the hole for the antenna, and thats ity!!

I can make one engine and use it for other projects, yes, I dont have to make one every time.