View Full Version : Which Mt to buy
Mustang2
02-19-2005, 11:33 AM
I am looking to buy a mt and i dont know which one i want im looking at Revo,Savage4.6,MGT i need help on what to buy i need feedback on all of them
Mustang2
02-19-2005, 11:34 AM
Also how tuff are savage's? i had a tmaxx and it took a good beating
shadowghost1
02-19-2005, 12:25 PM
Savage was my choice, I bought the .25 and I love it so I know the 4.6 will be killer. Its a little smaller than the MGT, LST, Cen, and so on but it is larger than the TMaxx. As for taking a beating you wont find a tougher truck, although it is possible to break it you will still be running longer than any of those other trucks and none of them can touch the Savage when it comes to jumping.
fuzzy2133
02-19-2005, 12:39 PM
The MGT and Savage can really take a beating. Both jump great the only down side with the savage is those long shock shafts, a bad landing could bend them fairly easy. Down side to the MGT is the tranny has a few extra parts since the engine sits sideways in the chassis. I got them both and other than the little details they both are excelent choices.
RCMadMatt
02-19-2005, 12:48 PM
Oh no, not another "which truck/buggy is best?" post. :o *sigh* You really can't go wrong with any monster you choose, so choose whichever truck appeals to you more and that has good lhs support. Or shop the internet if you choose one the lhs doesn't support. :)
Matt
Mustang2
02-19-2005, 01:06 PM
my lhs carrys all the trucks and parts i listed above
Mustang2
02-19-2005, 01:06 PM
im kinda leaning to the savage 4.6
RCMadMatt
02-19-2005, 01:20 PM
im kinda leaning to the savage 4.6
Then you should buy it, grasshopper!! ;)
Matt
67f100StPro
02-19-2005, 01:25 PM
Remember the 4.6 is a kit so you will need radio gear. I have a Savage and have landed MANY bad jumps and haven't bent a shock or broken anything yet. It has a ported S-25 in it and wheelies like crazy
Mustang2
02-19-2005, 01:51 PM
Yea i know about the radio im getting a JRxr3 in a trade
Saboteur
02-21-2005, 03:15 PM
If you plan on the Savage, go for the 4.6. The MGT is also a great choice and there are no problems with it. It may not have the top end of a revo or LST, but all you need is a new engine to bring out more power/speed. The stock engine is very reliable as well as the pullstart. When set right, it will idle all day and run strong. No vapor lock, tuning problems, etc. Comparing the Savage SS to the MGT, I'd take MGT...especially when you can get it for $350.
The Real Maxxter
02-21-2005, 08:40 PM
I went with the MGT because it had some factory upgrades that would cost you some cash if you had to buy them separately. Specifically, the MGT comes with CVD axles from the factory. The CVDs for my T-Maxx cost me $60 a pair. I also like the style of the MGT chassis because it makes things easier to get to.
astainback
02-22-2005, 12:30 AM
I have never driven a savage, but I have seen them run, and they are tough, but not good for racing. they seem clumsy and top heavy. If you are into jumping, get the savage. I think the MGT is better for all-around as is the tmaxx. The MGT is pretty much a big tmaxx in my opinion, just a little tougher/ bigger. I am getting ready to get an LST. I love my xxxnt, and i have heard of some little picky problems with the lst, but nothing that can't be worked out.
astainback
02-22-2005, 12:33 AM
OK, strike the comment about the savage not being good for racing. I don't want to step on any savage lovers toes. Again, I like that savage, and I wouldn't mind owning one (because i like jumping my trucks), but I like the MGT and tmaxx better. I don't have any revo experience either, so I won't comment on that one.
Saboteur
02-22-2005, 12:42 AM
MGT is nothing like a tmaxx ;).
astainback
02-22-2005, 01:08 AM
Yes, you are right... Nothing alike... what was i thinking.... I am an idiot... don't listen to me!!!
hahahahahaha
kurrz
02-22-2005, 05:17 PM
hate to bother anyone but i am a nitro newb and have to get a monster truck i have no lhs support i am considering the MGT Savage and TNX mostly gonna bash but i may race at some point if i get the time/money i want a fast, tough, easy to work on truck if thats not to much to ask also does anyone know if there is a reverse kit for the TNX thanks any replies appreciated
Saboteur
02-22-2005, 09:58 PM
I'd go with the MGT. The stock engine is pretty quick and its super reliable. Get a nice .21 pipe to go with the engine and it brings it to life. It already has reverse, but if you get the FOC (foward only conversion) it drops 1/2lb off the drivetrain allowing it to accelerate even faster. It's only $15 for that. The MGT is SO easy to work on and everything is layed out very nice and it's purely simple. The Savage is nice too and although faster, you're better off getting the 4.6 version with all the upgrades. The MGT doesn't need a lot of upgrades to be raced. Few parts here or there, some tuning, practice at the track, and you're good to go. Just remember even if a vehicle is designed for a track only, doesn't mean anyone can do great with it. Gotta tune, practice, dial in, and tune some more before you can be the fast guy. ;)
Mustang2
02-23-2005, 12:48 AM
i dunno what i want lol
astainback
02-23-2005, 02:14 AM
when in doubt, get the LST.
haha
madforRC
02-23-2005, 01:13 PM
you could see what the guys at your local track think i feel they will know which truck will be best for racing and if the trucks thier racing can withstand that then im sure they will know which one will take abuse from some hard backyard bashing
kurrz
02-23-2005, 05:11 PM
thanks for the replies also as far as tuning are the MGT and Savage easy to tune and will they wheelie? thanks
Saboteur
02-23-2005, 05:19 PM
MGT will be easier to tune. Savage will be slightly faster, but the MGT isn't far off. Get a nice tuned pipe for it and it will be going 35mph or so. The FOC will add even more acceleration. Both are quite heavy trucks, but the Savage manages to wheelie a bit easier than the MGT. Once the AE has a nice big block .26 or something, you will see the wheels in the air. :)
MikeWz
02-23-2005, 06:48 PM
Yes, you are right... Nothing alike... what was i thinking.... I am an idiot... don't listen to me!!!
hahahahahaha
What monster truck is NOT like a T-maxx? Most MTs out these days have the two shock. 2-speed fwd/rvse and other similarities here and there. Other than that, the MGT isn't really like a T-maxx. Dual shocks and 2-speeds are pretty much all it shares. The engine is different, the radio tray is completely different, the fuel tank is mounted in a different area, it's an extruded rail type chassis, the bulks are different etc...it's not really all that similar to the T-maxx at all. It just doesn't have the TVP chassis that the Savage and many others have now means when you have the body on, from the side it could look like more like a T-maxx.
The two toughest trucks out there right now are the Savage and the MGT hands down. I chose the MGT because I wanted to be able to do a bit of racing with it. It's more nible than the Savage as it's not quite as high and it's got a 1/2" wider stance than the Savage. It's also easier to work on. As you can see from Sabs picture everything is very simply laid out. The Savage does have more ground clearance though, so the choice is yours. Think about what you'd like to get out of it
kurrz
02-23-2005, 07:14 PM
i heard the radio that comes with the MGT is garbage and the one with the Savage is ok i plan to upgrade radios but not for a while thanks for the replies im leaning towards the MGT but still cant rule out the Savage man its a tough decision wish i was rich id buy one of each
I have been in this hobby for over 20 years now... If you have the $$ get the LST(make sure its one of the newer kits) , By far one of the best kits I have ever owned!
Alot of people are stuck on traxxas and I just dont get it! They are more of a toy in my mind!
Just my $02
astainback
02-23-2005, 08:24 PM
What monster truck is NOT like a T-maxx? Most MTs out these days have the two shock. 2-speed fwd/rvse and other similarities here and there. Other than that, the MGT isn't really like a T-maxx. Dual shocks and 2-speeds are pretty much all it shares. The engine is different, the radio tray is completely different, the fuel tank is mounted in a different area, it's an extruded rail type chassis, the bulks are different etc...it's not really all that similar to the T-maxx at all. It just doesn't have the TVP chassis that the Savage and many others have now means when you have the body on, from the side it could look like more like a T-maxx.
The two toughest trucks out there right now are the Savage and the MGT hands down. I chose the MGT because I wanted to be able to do a bit of racing with it. It's more nible than the Savage as it's not quite as high and it's got a 1/2" wider stance than the Savage. It's also easier to work on. As you can see from Sabs picture everything is very simply laid out. The Savage does have more ground clearance though, so the choice is yours. Think about what you'd like to get out of it
You know, you are right too. I am an idiot.
Squint your eyes a tad bit with the 2 of them side by side, and yes, they are similar in APPEARANCE.
I know they are different. Don't lose it over a generalization. We are all here to laugh at each other anyway.
adrian
astainback
02-23-2005, 08:27 PM
I have been in this hobby for over 20 years now... If you have the $$ get the LST(make sure its one of the newer kits) , By far one of the best kits I have ever owned!
Alot of people are stuck on traxxas and I just dont get it! They are more of a toy in my mind!
Just my $02
Do you jump yours alot??
I was just wondering, because i have heard that they are not as tough as the mgt/savage trucks.
I got to check one out for the first time the other day, and it was insane. I am so used to my tmaxx and xxxnt' size.
I am getting one soon. I am waiting for my roommate to save up some dough ( i have a little to go as well ) and I will be ordering one.
If you have any action pics, please email them to me. I would love to see it.
astainback@earthlink.net
Saboteur
02-23-2005, 09:21 PM
I would pick MGT over the Savage IMO. I like the Revo looks though. Just really sporty and all. I honestly don't bash hard and the Revo I would've gotten. However with a price of $350 for the MGT, I couldn't resist.
Do you jump yours alot??
I was just wondering, because i have heard that they are not as tough as the mgt/savage trucks.
I got to check one out for the first time the other day, and it was insane. I am so used to my tmaxx and xxxnt' size.
I am getting one soon. I am waiting for my roommate to save up some dough ( i have a little to go as well ) and I will be ordering one.
If you have any action pics, please email them to me. I would love to see it.
astainback@earthlink.net
Yes I do jump it, but I do not go crazy! The only weak part I would say is the upper and lower arms. But @ $10 for 2 sets(4 arms total) then ***?! The cool thing is the arms are the same for both front and back...
I have ran this truck in snow, mud and sand with no issues! I do know that they had some problems with the first version of the truck, but I have not had any problems at all with this version of the LST.
We just got some freash snow this week and should be getting some more this weekend. I will do my best to get you some video and pics of this killer truck going ballz out in the freash snow!
This truck loves snow more than anything and trust me, it is a blast in the snow!
KgB
Big Bear Lake Ca.
Also about the truck not being that tough, Last weekend while running it I did a few summersalts and didnt break or bend a thing...let me tell ya, when this thing does about four going 35-40mph your thinking it must have had to break something! But it didnt!
Cant really say its not as tough as the savage, I have not owned one. But I can say I have raced (raced for about 7yrs) and bashed alot of cars and trucks.. This thing is far from being weak!
MikeWz
02-23-2005, 11:38 PM
You know, you are right too. I am an idiot.
Squint your eyes a tad bit with the 2 of them side by side, and yes, they are similar in APPEARANCE.
I know they are different. Don't lose it over a generalization. We are all here to laugh at each other anyway.
adrian
Haha, I didn't really mean for it to come out like I was bashing you. I just wanted to make sure that he didn't think it was too similar to the T...that's all. My appologies if it came out that way :o
The TX that comes with the MGT isn't too great, no. But I would take the servos in the MGT over those in the Savage anyday.
You can get some monster trucks comparison at this site, click on the MISC button on the left.
http://pages.globetrotter.net/rc10gt/index_anglais.htm
kurrz
02-24-2005, 04:13 PM
thanks guys i think im sold on the MGT i saw someone say you could get it for 350 what company sells them that cheap? thanks again also what fuel should i run and what field equipment is necessary i am brand new to nitro
Saboteur
02-24-2005, 10:15 PM
The only reason why I got it for $350 is that last December when all the other trucks been selling like crazy, the distributors for the LHS decided to put the MGT's for sale only in that month. I got the LAST MGT going for that sale price so I picked it up. Too bad the REVO wasn't for that price otherwise they'd go fast and I woulda bought one.
The Real Maxxter
02-24-2005, 11:28 PM
I got my MGT on eBay for $350, but the seller is 'no longer a registered member' according to the site. Not sure why. The purchase went really well :(
thanks guys i think im sold on the MGT i saw someone say you could get it for 350 what company sells them that cheap? thanks again also what fuel should i run and what field equipment is necessary i am brand new to nitro
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Try Hobbypeople they are $369, They do mail order but if you live in cali you should be able to find one close to ya!
http://www.hobbypeople.net/gallery/383359.asp
The Real Maxxter
02-25-2005, 11:38 AM
I posted this in another thread, but it's really relevant here as well, so I'll quote it.
I'm with Shadow on one thing. The chassis and suspension systems of the Revo and Savage are so different that it's difficult to compare them. The Revo's suspension is designed with the goal of keeping the tires in contact with the ground. You can't put power to the ground without contact, so the Revo was designed with very long suspension arms and tons of travel.
Trucks like the Savage and MGT are based more on the type of suspension you'll find on the original T-Maxx. They can be tuned to race pretty easily, but they won't reach the same level of performance as the Revo simply because they are designed differently.
What you gain with the Savage and MGT style trucks is simplicity and toughness. The longer the leverage arm, the greater the force that is applied at the fulcrum point. If you cartwheel a Revo, the suspension arms will undergo more stress than a shorter, more stout design like the Savage and MGT. Trade-offs is what I'm getting at here.
This is why everyone says buy the Revo if you're going to race, and buy the Savage/MGT if you're going to bash. I bought the MGT because I was looking for a basher. It rides high, has a simple layout, comes with a lot of aluminum parts, and CVD axles.
I finally made it to the track to spend some time with the newer trucks. The Savage is a very handsome truck, and the ladder frame is really cool. It has a lot to do with your priorities. IMO, the Savage is a better looking truck. The ladder frame forms an arch under the chassis that looks really nice. The body is also more attractive.
I just couln't pass up all the stock hop-ups that come with the MGT. I spent a fair amount of money on my T-Maxx and E-Maxx upgrading with parts that came stock on the MGT. The other major deciding factor was the layout. I enjoy working on my R/Cs, but an open layout is important to me. The MGT really delivers.
As far as parts that caught my eye, the MGT has:
* CVD axles (all four corners and center drive shafts)
* Anodized drive cups (transmission only)
* Anodized upper suspension bulkheads
* Anodized skid plates
* Aluminum drive hexes
* Extruded aluminum chassis like no other
If I had to break down my impressions of the trucks it would go something like this:
Revo - Racer, high-tech
Savage - Basher, good looking, durable
MGT - Basher, open layout, lots of stock hop-ups, durable
Hope that helps you out a little.
turbopower
02-25-2005, 12:27 PM
If your going to race you should get a TNX or Revo. I have a TNX and it may not have that much torque but the cornering speed is very fast. All I have are power stroke shocks, bow ties and relocated battery pack. While at the track the other day there was a LST with bow tie tires there also trying to keep up with me but could not keep up I had to slow down to let him catch up and would proceed to walk him once I got back on it. Very easy to work on.
The MGT is a good compromise between basher/racer. I also have a MGT with a Wasp .26. With that engine my MGT will smoke a Savage. Although not quite as easy to drive on the track as the TNX it does very well. I also bash with it and it is a very good truck for bashing. Very easy to work on.
For bashing and jumping the Savage is is the one. I drove my friends one and it just loved jumping. Only weak point we found is the Differentials and how hard it is to work on. Now the vehecles I mentioned are trucks I own or have driven. Not what I hear or have heard. I always hear people recommend trucks without actually owning them or driving them or recommending them because thats what they own which is wrong. In the end they are all good trucks in different ways just be sure you can get parts for what ever you choose, but with the internet you can get parts for just about any truck.
The Real Maxxter
02-25-2005, 03:08 PM
i heard the radio that comes with the MGT is garbage and the one with the Savage is ok i plan to upgrade radios but not for a while thanks for the replies im leaning towards the MGT but still cant rule out the Savage man its a tough decision wish i was rich id buy one of each
The radio that comes with the MGT won't be winning any fashion awards, but it does have more adjustments than any other RTR radio I've used. Along with steering and throttle trim, it has throttle serve min and max settings. It also has adjustable rate steering.
In terms of quality, it's a standard issue JR 27MHz AM radio. Nothing special, but it's an RTR radio, what do you expect?
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