Which CVD's are best for the savage?

[Opelgt69]

Hello I've recently bought a savage ss 4.6 kit. And planning to at some hop ups directly while building it. I've been lloking at CVD's but am not sure wich ones to use. I've seen MIP they seem expensive but probably good quality altough they don't have dust boots. the ones with dust boots from hot bodies.( cheap but maybe not good?) and the rather new t-bonz from Tsais ( So far I'am leaning towards these) Does anyone have some input on this?

Koen

[doesgo]

For the price and durability, the Hot Bodies ones are great. Just be sure to Dremel a small notch in the pin where the grub screw makes contact to secure it, and use loctite on the grub screw. Doing those two things should make them trouble-free. I've been running mine that way for over two years!

I don't know anything about the Tsais parts.

[Opelgt69]

@ doesgo,
Do you maybe have a picture of wich part I should dremel exactly?

[doesgo]

I don't have an exploded view of a Hot Bodies CVD on hand right now, but the pins are just like in the bottom-center of this (http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXJCN4&P=ML) picture. They go through the "bell" shaped portion of the main CVD shaft and join with the other part of the shaft inside the "bell".

I've got a MegaTravel CVD at home that's not in my truck, if I have time tonight I'll disassemble it and post a picture, if nobody beats me to it.

[kitty]

doesgo, you must have the same earlier version of the HB CVDs that I have. Mine have been almost completely trouble free, except for one broken pin. I replaced the pin with a cut drill bit end and it's doing fine.

The newer version of the HB CVDs have narrower bells and a lot of guys keep breaking the pins that are in the dog "bone" end. With so many people putting in everything from a Mach .26 on up to a Collari .30 in their trucks, there are no CVDs that hold up. Forget MIP's stuff. Those wouldn't even hold up on an older version T-Maxx, much less something as heavy as a Savage with massive power.

I haven't heard much about the Tsais CVDs, so I can't comment on those. The "newer" version of the HB CVDs are the same as the ones by Dynamite and one or two others. Maybe you can find someone who has a set of the earlier HB CVDs with the larger "bells" who will part for them for a cheap price. A lot of guys didn't like theirs, but I love mine. I keep them well lubed with a lithium wax lube and they have shown absolutely no wear on the bone ends.

[doesgo]

Well that sure stinks! Good info as usual though, Kitty. Thanks. I won't bother taking mine apart for a picture, then. :(

[Raster]

Forget MIP's stuff. Those wouldn't even hold up on an older version T-Maxx, much less something as heavy as a Savage with massive power.

The MIP CVDs for the T-Maxx are not good? I just bought all MIP CVDs for my T-Maxx, thinking they were stronger than the stock plastic driveshafts. Are they not? If not, what is stronger?

Thanks,
Ras

[Opelgt69]

does anyone have pictures that show the differences between old and new style hot bodies drive shafts?
Anybody with experience with the tsais cvd's

Koen

[RrR]

I run MIP CVDs in my E-Maxx with locked rear diff,7cell packs and about a pound or two worth of aluminum and Ti parts and had no trouble with MIP CVDs

[kitty]

Well there you go, Raster - a good word about the MIP CVDs for the Maxx. Thanks, RrR =) I'm just not fond of MIP parts after having problems with their CVDs on my E-Pede and getting extremely poor results speaking to someone in customer service at MIP. As well, a few guys I know who have used the MIP CVDs on their Savages report that they do not last very long.

Opelgt69: I don't know anyone locally who has a set of the "newer" version of the HB CVDs, but if someone around here has a set would be willing to measure the outside diameter of the "bell" portion, that would be good. I have to tear my truck down soon to install a set of prototype TVPs and check my front diff and tranny. Something locked up on me at the track yesterday (barely half a tank through, too. grrr!) and it's looking like the newly-rebuilt tranny I just put in it went poofers on me. While I have the truck apart, I can try to measure the outer diameter of the CVDs on mine.

[Opelgt69]

Thanks Kitty,
I would appriciate that.

Koen

[xxxkat]

I would get the ones from RD Logics,Great price,great CVD's I paid $49 for the set,Thats front,rear and 2 center ones.and on top of that the CVD's have an extra set of pin holes..that way when the first one's get worn out(the pin holes)you have a new set to use,so you get twice the life out of your CVD's.

[doesgo]

Wow, if they're tough enough, that's a GREAT deal!

[Opelgt69]

where did you see them? can't find savage cvd's on theur site


Koen

[packerfan3022]

amube its jyst me byt rdlogics cvds are weak, on mu maxx ( i know this is savage...) ive broken all the one I bought, then i bought mips and have had no problems.

[xxxkat]

I have not had any problems with RD Logics CVD's,I also use them on my NTC3 and they hold up fine.I also looked and did not see them on their web site,but I know you can still get them,you might need to call them.

[kitty]

I'm pretty sure that the RD Logics CVDs are the same as either the Dynamite or one other brand (name evades me at the moment).

Opelgt: sorry for the delay. I just got my truck apart last night then had a really busy day today. The "bells" on my center CVDs are 17mm so the ones to the wheels should be the same size.

I have yet to hear back from anyone I know who has bought the RC Trix dog bones, so I don't know if "no news is good news" on that front. From my perspective based upon what I have learned while I've had my Savage over the past 1.5 years, there is not a dog bone or CVD on the market yet that holds up to severe punishment, especially with the hotter engines so many are running these days. The guys I know who race their Savages mostly use the stock dog bones and keep a few spares on hand, just in case. They are cheaper to replace than something like a CVD. The consensus is that the stock "regular" dog bones are just as good if not better than the HD (HPI heavy duty) ones.

After thinking about the issue since my last post, I recommend that you just run what your truck came with. They put all the upgrades into it compared to what my SS came with.