BPP Brushless 1/8 truck update

[bomb-proof]

Just figured I would start a fresh thread......here are the latest pics for those who havent seen em.

[rckid11]

Wow nice job! Looks like good competition for my CFR truggy :p. Are you going to release different models (pro, non-pro), and what would the price be? Thanks.

[bomb-proof]

Not sure about different models, pretty much nothing to really change. So maybe with and without wheels,etc.

[rckid11]

That was the fastest responce time I have every had. I just went to you site, but all it shows is a picture of one of your chassis. Is the price 700?

[bomb-proof]

700-750 as a roller.

[TimisTim]

Got any more pics like an aerial view? Mabey front and back also? Looks awesome, so this is what you run 20+ cells with.

[pcnutz]

so when are you selling the kits?

[ducati777]

I've never seen that before, its dope!!! Do you have a pic of one with electronics? I'd like to see how it all goes together... went to the homepage, but it just seems to be a splash screen with no actual information, is there a better way in?

[bomb-proof]

Thanks, here is the homepage.... http://bomb-proofproducts.com/home.htm
More info to come after the weekend as far as dates, etc.

[JugawaH]

I remember seeing this thing for the first time on the Traxxas Community Emaxx forum...and I'm still impressed. What kind of diffs are being used...is the truck going to hold up to 18 cells flat?

[bomb-proof]

Its running lightning stadium diffs, holding up well to the power so far. We have run 16 cells on the big maximum through it and 18 cells on an XL both without problems. Holds 18 cells SxS or 10 cell stick packs per side.

[JugawaH]

just another question: What is the purpose of the jagged structure sticking out near the back of the alumn. roll cage/chassis thing? (it has three rods connecting at the top) My guess is it's just for show, like maybe in the shape of a bomb..where the arch-shaped roll-cage is like the bomb part and the jagged fin thing is the fin on the bomb? haha...Also it looks like a good place to mount a controller...;)

[bomb-proof]

Just like you said, just the shape of a bomb, and place to mount a controller or fan. You can mount a fan to it and cut the body to allow airflow. It gives it a realistic stadium truck look since the 1:1 trucks have fans/radiators there.

[JugawaH]

man thats just cool...I'm not going to buy one...seeing as I am already the proud owner of a torpedo chassis on my BL emaxx...good stuff

[bomb-proof]

Oh ya, thats cool. Its not something I built to "sell" anyway. It was just something myself and a few others needed to run competitively without breaking parts. The maxx's are great, but once you really push the envelope it doesnt hold up as well as these do. Plus I didnt want to run any UE parts. It makes no difference if I sell any of them to be honest....but if someone wants one, I will do it.

[jocktheglide165]

bad A--

[bomb-proof]

Thanks Jock

[metalry101]

DAAAAMN. I've seen that it on your site for quite some time, but wow.

[bomb-proof]

Just weighed it for anyone interested......as pictured its 7.5lbs

[Cold Fusion]

What does that bring the total to, RTR?

[bomb-proof]

All depends on cells, motors, etc. As long as it doesnt take an additional 7.5lbs of motor/batts it should be under a comparable E-maxx by a long shot.
Keep in mind, this truck is bigger than an E-maxx also..wider and longer. Shouldnt be a problem being under 10lbs with more power than you know what to do with. Not bad for running a chassis nearly 1/4" thick.

[Re-Mix]

Ooohhh... man!!!! Makes me wish I didn't own a brushless xxx-t, and a xxx-4.. Otherwise man, with a Nice hacker and shuzle combinationn..oooo, give me the shivers. Nice work, congrats.

[dj_ski69]

Any chance you can post more pics?
Thanks

SkI

[bomb-proof]

I will try and have more pictures tomorrow. Didn't have time to today.

Thanks re-mix.

[dj_ski69]

any updates?

thanks

SkI

[bomb-proof]

Sorry, but nothing as of yet. You would have seen an update (everything is finished now) 3 days ago....but lost a hard drive. I am trying to get everything up and running again now. Luckily I backed everything up last month, so the loss was minimal.

Long story short...Truck is done. As soon as I can get my software and drivers installed I will have pictures.

[bomb-proof]

Heres a quick picture, doesnt show all that much, but its something new to look at.

Picture 1 (http://bomb-proofproducts.com/images/DSC00187-2.JPG)

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Top View (http://bomb-proofproducts.com/images/DSC00199-2.jpg)

[rckid11]

Nice job! If I had 750$ to spend I would definitly invest it in that.

[bomb-proof]

Thanks. Yea, its certainly not for everyone. Alot of people will frown upon spending that on a roller, but this is a new era and this is actually a really reasonable price. An E-maxx with $750 worth of upgrades isnt even comparable to this. If you plan on running an E-maxx with power without constant breakage, you will need....1/8 diffs, steel driveshafts, all metal tranny gears, extended wheelbase, etc. Those parts arent cheap, and add that to the price of the E-maxx. To each thier own, I like em all.

[RobK]

It's not clear to me how the motor(s) mount. Can you show one mounted? A picture of a fully loaded vehicle would answer a lot of questions.

[TimisTim]

By the first picture it mounts on the bracket over the battery hold down. I suppose if someone wanted to run two motors they could place on on the other side in the same fashion.

[bomb-proof]

http://bomb-proofproducts.com/images/DSC00191-22.JPG

The motor hangs over the battery strap on the left side. The motor is positioned toward the rear for proper weight distribution. The motor is lower than the top of the spur gear, so you can imagine what the CG is like.

[pcnutz]

I am just waiting for you to start selling these so I can give up 750$ for one

[bigair78]

How good of a basher will this thing be? Is it going to hold up to some hard core bashing or is it just a racer? I'm scared all that allum. will tweak and bend with some hard landings. Also, will you have spare parts ready or will they have to be made?

[Re-Mix]

This truck is designed to withstand everything that you can throw at it. Im sure it will hold up to moderate bashing, nothing too crazy. But knowing bomb-proof's products in the past, they will definitely be of great quality and extremely durable. Plus, that aluminum on the truck is pretty hardcore if I'm right, nice n thick.

[bomb-proof]

It depends on what you mean by bashing. If running wide open throttle into trees is your idea of bashing, then you are gunna want to go with a rustler. If an e-maxx can do it, this one can do it better. Its probably the best braced truck on the market, but that doesnt make it 40mph into a brick wall ready. Its geared more toward a racer, its superb handling and massive power capabilities are the product of that. Racetracks done have buildings to jump off, walls to smash into, etc. etc. Its basically a beefed up 1/8 scale buggy, so that should tell you something. Its braced from tower/tower X 2, tower/chassis X 4, chassis/chassis X 2, plus the steering plate that braces the diff case.

Usually when I think of the term basher, I think of someone who is too cheap to fix something the right way. They just want to tape it back together so they can crash the vehicle into a stationary object and kick it back to the work area and call it junk for breaking. So, if thats the case, no its not a basher.


Also, will you have spare parts ready or will they have to be made?

Some parts are kept in large quantities, some are not. Any part not on hand can be made that day, and in many cases ship that same day. I think you would have a hard time breaking something that wasnt a factory lightning part. I pretty much over built everything of mine so if anything did break, it would be a hotbodies part. Something like skids that wear, I have on hand.

[bigair78]

Usually when I think of the term basher, I think of someone who is too cheap to fix something the right way. They just want to tape it back together so they can crash the vehicle into a stationary object and kick it back to the work area and call it junk for breaking. So, if thats the case, no its not a basher.



Wow I've never heard of a basher characterized that way. A basher to me is someone who doesn't race really. A basher to me is someone who just jumps and runs their cars or trucks around the yard or sand pit.(ie, beatyourtruck,slapmafro) Not everyone has tracks near by to race at, so bashing is all we can do. Although we do get crazy sometimes and push the limit, that is part of the fun. But for 750 bucks I don't think i'd try pushing the limits with it to much.

[microrcdude]

Man i am such a fan of all the Bomb-Squad Products. Jack miles, one of your buddies, got me fully hooked on your products. I just dont have a truck to put them on. Thats soon to change.

[Re-Mix]

You act like $750 is a fortune to spend for the peace of mind and ability to drop in a sick powerplant and not break drivetrain parts. My xxx-t alone has cost me around $900. And i can't do half the stuff a hopped up emaxx or this truck could do.

[bomb-proof]

You act like $750 is a fortune to spend for the peace of mind and ability to drop in a sick powerplant and not break drivetrain parts. My xxx-t alone has cost me around $900.

well said, and you should see the price of a hopped up E-maxx. Most are double and triple that. Most people would rather spend $25 a week replacing parts, adding up to $2500.....they dont notice a large amount of money leaving so they dont care. Id personally rather shell out 750 out front and be done.


As far as bashing around in your backyard or sandpit, your not gunna hurt this one. I race some brutal tracks, I used to bend alum wheels, break hinge pins, bend shock towers, bend pillowballs, break pillowballs, break shocks, you name it. My trucks are no strangers to 40mph+ kicker jumps. I see tons of people (locally and on the boards) that bad mouth products because they break...and they are slamming trucks into solid objects. How many people have you heard say.."wow that thing took a beating", or "I cant believe it survived that".......it kinda implies that expect it to break. But when it does, its certainly not thier fault. Its the same people who cant afford the 15 screws their truck is missing, but they have no trouble paying for a engine with 5hp more than they can handle.(now they can hit walls faster)

[bigair78]

You act like $750 is a fortune to spend for the peace of mind and ability to drop in a sick powerplant and not break drivetrain parts. My xxx-t alone has cost me around $900. And i can't do half the stuff a hopped up emaxx or this truck could do.

Look, I'm not knocking the price. I think for a good bashing truck that is a okay price. Though, I must point out that for a basher it seems expensive. For a serious racer it's a great price. For most people it's easier to drop 25 or 50 bucks here and there to fix there truck. But to drop 750 at one time isn't economical for everybody. I make good money where I work, and it would be hard to budget that in for me.

How many people have you heard say.."wow that thing took a beating", or "I cant believe it survived that".......it kinda implies that expect it to break. But when it does, its certainly not thier fault. Its the same people who cant afford the 15 screws their truck is missing, but they have no trouble paying for a engine with 5hp more than they can handle.(now they can hit walls faster).

Any adult that bashes for fun knows the risk. They know by jumping over that car or off that barn that there is a good chance it will break. If it does than thats fine, if it doesn't then it makes for a good video. Kids however think that every car is unbreakable and do talk smack about the end result. But I know alot of guys at several sites that all they do is bash and they know the risk and to them it's only their fault if it breaks.

[bomb-proof]

With that being said....for anyone with a brain, it will be an excellent basher.

If something were to break, chances are the part is still cheaper than anything for the e-maxx anyway. An arm is $3.50, so we are not talking major money.

[Re-Mix]

bigair - sorry I came off a little rude there.

For the bashing the majority of us do, which i suspect is running it around the neighborhood and off occasional jumps it'll be awesome. Wish I could buy one truly, but I got stuck with some losi's and brushless lol. I'm always in awe to you guys and your brushless monsters.

[bigair78]

bigair - sorry I came off a little rude there.

For the bashing the majority of us do, which i suspect is running it around the neighborhood and off occasional jumps it'll be awesome. Wish I could buy one truly, but I got stuck with some losi's and brushless lol. I'm always in awe to you guys and your brushless monsters.


I didn't take it like you were coming across rude. Some people have come across that way though. I agree it would be nice to have, but I'm like you. With all the money tied up in my current setups there is no way I can afford it. But I'm sure those with a BRAIN will be able to come up with the money.

[bomb-proof]

bigair- hope you didnt think I was talking about you not having a brain, that wasnt the case. In case thats how you took it, I meant to say I can see you are not one of the people who just run into things to see a crash. And to answer your original question "is it a good basher" ....now that I know what you consider bashing, and yes its perfectly suited for that, by all means. I agree, $750 is a big hit for some people to take at once. Thats perfectly understandable. I really cant do anything to drop the price, other than drop the quality.....and thats not really something I am willing to do.

I will post some video the first chance I get, and I will show ya what kinda abuse it can take.

[bigair78]

It's cool, I really love your truck. I would love to have it. That truck is exactly what I need for the jumping I do, but at the wrong price. I commend you on keeping the quality high. Because if I do decide to buy one I would want the highest quality I could find for that price. Myself as well as the guys over at SLAPMAFRO.COM love to jump our rc's off kicker ramps and stuff so the durability is right up my alley. For me I hate the fact that I do have to replace stuff often. With that said, my wife will crap if I even mentioned 750 for a "new" toy.(is my wife the only one that calls them toys?) I guess I need to sell something so I can get it.

[bomb-proof]

I hear ya. Keep in mind, the price is for a complete roller....I am trying to get a price list together, a bare bones kit would be what alot of people would be interested in....since most people here already have plenty of wheels/tires,bodies,shocks, etc. Jumps are what this thing was born to do...I will be sure to make ya proud when the video comes around.