Airtronics M11 spotted!

[PeterV]

Forgive me if this is old news, but I flipped when I saw JOK3R's post with this pic on the Spektrum thread. So I PM'd him for info, and this is what he sent back. Thank JOK, keep it coming!<BR><BR>


I just found it while I was reading some spanish RC sites. I was amazed that it wasnt anywhere else??

Here are some specs that I could make out from some japanese release notes that I found

blue or white backlight selectable

Throttle tension adjuster * vibrator - function (grip section)

* Traction control *

* ALB (anti lock brake) * trim switch adjustment

* Brake mixing * full adjustable rate control

* variable servo speed setting function

* Servo monitor * 30 model memories

as soon as I find more scoop I will let you know

[LEADFOOT]

ooohhhhhhhhhh. nice :)

[InitialVelocity]

I knew I was smart to wait. Its pretty incredible how one radio (M8) has been so dominant in RC Racing.

[tallyrc]

i can't believe it's not 2.4ghz..

[kitty]

Any larger and I'd expect that sucker to pick up satellite radio and HBO.

[losiguy1090]

Nice. I saw this at losibk2.com first, though......

[rcboy201]

i dont think it wil be worth getting rid of the M8 for it, but if you dont have the M8 that is the way to go

[jocktheglide165]

I buy it cause im a fool trade in my limited m8 for this one since the limited is not so called limite anymore if this comes out cause it looks all black also.

[TRF TT-01]

Can this be used with JR reciever? If it could, I might get it as soon as I saved enough for it. It should be more expensive than M8.

[tracer]

First off, to fend off any flames, I'm obviously just throwing out my baseless opinion cuz I don't know the official specs or have ever used it.

However...
Big deal?
This is an update, on what, 10 year old technology?
This product is irrelevant. It’s like a car company releasing a new car with, oh look, new cup holders!
The Nomadio Sensors system is real innovation. If Futaba or KO were to come out with a similar system to that, then I would be impressed.

And as for one posters comment about domination of the M8 in the field. Sponsorship money goes a long way. Some companies dish out more than others.

Just my two baseless cents.

[astainback]

Should I get an M8/M11 or stick with the JRxs3 pro that i want to order...

[TMaxxBenny25]

I waitin for a price. if the m8 was 195 with only the TX & RX than this baby is bound to be at least 230 with no servo.

[PeterV]

Doggone it Tracer, you're supposed to swallow every new product release as the greatest thing ever! What are you, a trouble maker? Everyone please ignore him and get back to putting your M8s on ebay! You can't live without an M11!

But seriously folks, whether it's an awesome technical revelation or just a style update, the M11 is certainly newsworthy. We'll just have to wait until the specs are in! Airtronics certainly won't get left behind of freqsynth, but a who knows how far off a Spektrum/Nomadio style module is...we'll see!

[baih]

i wanna know if it has synthsized channels??

[RC10racer89]

i can't believe it's not 2.4ghz..

I don't think we will see radio companies start to build 2.4 ghz radios just yet. Still I'd be looking out for them in the near future. Besides im sure Spektrum will come out with a new 2.4 ghz module for the M11 as soon as it comes out if the M8 module isn't already compatible.

[jocktheglide165]

First off, to fend off any flames, I'm obviously just throwing out my baseless opinion cuz I don't know the official specs or have ever used it.

However...
Big deal?
This is an update, on what, 10 year old technology?
This product is irrelevant. It’s like a car company releasing a new car with, oh look, new cup holders!
The Nomadio Sensors system is real innovation. If Futaba or KO were to come out with a similar system to that, then I would be impressed.

And as for one posters comment about domination of the M8 in the field. Sponsorship money goes a long way. Some companies dish out more than others.

Just my two baseless cents.

good point tracer I agree to a certain extent, but your bias towards futaba and Ko obviously to make those remarks about them. If futaba came out with the same M11 setup you would call it, 'da bomb", but if airtronics came out with it you would call a, "behind times" product. Domination for m8 only because its simple and all the programs are on one screen. Unike others simplicty sometimes is more dominant than complexity.

[Nash]

Like PeterV says, everyone put your M8's on eBay with a $20 buy it now. Do it PeterV commands it.

That way I can get a cheap M8!!!! :-)


I'll be waiting :-P

[jocktheglide165]

Like PeterV says, everyone put your M8's on eBay with a $20 buy it now. Do it PeterV commands it.

That way I can get a cheap M8!!!! :-)


I'll be waiting :-P
sorry bro I put mine on ebay already got 30 dollars because it was the limited edition one.

emailed aitronics they said release date is June right around there once they get FCC approval for it.

[losiguy1090]

astainback, I would just go to the LHS and get whatever feels the most comfortable. You wont use half the features on this radio, so just get the radio that is most comfortable in your hand.

[rcabj]

astainback, I would just go to the LHS and get whatever feels the most comfortable. You wont use half the features on this radio, so just get the radio that is most comfortable in your hand.

totally agreed.....some more for club racers like me the present radio system whatever make is good enough. whatever comforts your hands and pocket... :D

[losiguy1090]

hehe

I was talking to Jesse Robbers, and he said that he hardly uses any features on his M8. Just trim, epa, basic stuff like that. He said the only reason he uses it is because he likes how it feels in his hand.

[Aluma]

ummm...it looks nice, pretty much the same as before, but who actually has 30 cars? 5-10 model memory is enough... :D

[redsixer]

M11 ? I didnt even know they had M9 or M10.

[JOK3R]

I guess they skipped 9 and 10 because its been so long. This one is 3 times better since its an 11, hehehehe

I recall seeing the price for this radio in Japan. Will try and dig it up again

[Akura2]

ummm...it looks nice, pretty much the same as before, but who actually has 30 cars? 5-10 model memory is enough... :D

I have 45 cars..... two are motorcycles....27 of them are 18th scale or larger... my M8 ran out of spaces long ago

[tadium54]

M11 ? I didnt even know they had M9 or M10.


Ha! I knew I wouldn't be the only one to think this! :)

Looks good tho. Maybe I can actualy afford an M8 now!

[tracer]

ummm...it looks nice, pretty much the same as before, but who actually has 30 cars? 5-10 model memory is enough... :D

By asking that question you've shown that you are not the target market for the M11.

It's not that you HAVE 30 cars. But that you would like 30 memory spaces.
This is simply because you want to have multiple profiles for different conditions.

Of course you could be a friend of mine who even after buying the CamPac for his 3PK has still run out of spots due to the sheer number of cars he has.

[tracer]

good point tracer I agree to a certain extent, but your bias towards futaba and Ko obviously to make those remarks about them. If futaba came out with the same M11 setup you would call it, 'da bomb", but if airtronics came out with it you would call a, "behind times" product. Domination for m8 only because its simple and all the programs are on one screen. Unike others simplicty sometimes is more dominant than complexity.

Hmmm, I had to think about this for a bit, but no.
I have a 3PK simply due to the stearing mixing I needed at the time when I was buying a radio, the M8 Didn't have it. Also, there is a bias, but that's from my local hobby shops, none of wich carry Airtronics/Sanwa. Special order only.
The reason I mentioned the other manufacturers is because We already know what is coming out from Sanwa, here it is. But we don't know what's coming out from the other two.
Judging by what Futaba has just released in the air market they are actually inovating in completly the wrong direction. Releasing a $2k+ radio with a built in windows computer. Sure they doubled the PCM resolution and made it synthasized, but that's just a marginal improvement over old analog technology (yes I know PCM is digitally encoded). And who really needs a computer around their neck when flying? I think all the radio manufacturers are behind, not just Airtronics/Sanwa.

This is why competition is good, and why it's great that there is a new maufacturer on the scene. If I was "bias" in any way maybe it's towards Nomadio for coming out with a really inovative product.

[ofnawannabe]

Any larger and I'd expect that sucker to pick up satellite radio and HBO.

For that price it should come with it!

[ofnawannabe]

ummm...it looks nice, pretty much the same as before, but who actually has 30 cars? 5-10 model memory is enough... :D

I know some1! lol...


And for the price some1 on rctech said it is about $634 or somethin like that

[Mr. Schumacher]

M11 – High-end Radio control transmitter for RC car

SANWA released pictures and detailed information of their brand new top of the line car radio system - M11. This model will replace their well known M8 series. Keeping the same concept design of the legendary M8, the new M11 ensures smooth transitions from existing M8 users. The new radio features many innovative functions. Some of the interesting features include the elastomer handle and the inserted vibrator function on the handle. The M11 should start shipping by end of April 2005.

Today, SANWA launched new line of High-end Radio control transmitter for RC car which is designed based on the feature of our M8 series. This product was developed upon the idea called ‘The control of Dreams' and it comes with ‘'extreme High response Technology – HER Technology). We introduce new features to control RC car more realistically and purse the basic feature of faster and sharply to the breaking point. It employ(adapt) large size L.C.D with 2 color back light, which allows you to ensure all the information you need when you control the RC car. We placed importance on User's feeling of willingness to focus on controlling the RC car. Moreover, our new product lives out our promise of the design, which gives users to have the feeling of pride, grace and also greater sense of use for grip and steering in order to heighten driver's sensitivity .



Main features:

1. Adapt the new feature of ‘Extreme High Response Technology'.
‘The quick response technology', has been in great demand since we released the ‘M8', has updated to the breaking point and adapted to ‘M11'. This EHR Technology incorporates the opinion of drivers and allows you to enjoy the greater sense of operational feeling.

2. Using PPM – 2 or 4 channels respond to all RC vehicles.
As PPM is adaptable for all the RC vehicles such as racing car, buggy, Monster truck and etc, all the users can enjoy at any circumstances. By changing the module, you can use both 40 MHz and 27 MHz.

3. Customize (key assign)
By putting into ourselves in our customer's shoe, we introduce new product, has the entire manual operation button which can be fully customized by users. All of our customer can enjoy M11 and they get fun from it!!

4. Computerized Multi Function Display (CFM Display)
The large sized CFM Display (240 x 90) allows you to confirm any information you need. Back light will be adjusted to blue or white color.

5. Ergonomic design and rigid body shell
The handle features and ergonomic design of elastomer grips on the handle and this soft rubber grip makes it easy to hold. High-traction provides you the precise movement of the wheel.

6. Other new functions on M11
• Throttle Tension Adjuster
• Vibrator function (Grip)
• Traction Control System
• ALB(Anti Lock Break)
• Trim Position Adjust (5 Position)
• Steering Height Adjuster (2 Position)
• Trigger Tension Adjuster
• Brake mixing
• EXP can be added to the ARC adjustment
• Full Adjustable Rate Control
• Variable servo speed adjustment
• Servo Monitor
• 30 Model Memory



*** Main specification

Transmitter (M11 for RC Car)
• Transmission mode : FM PPM
• RF module, crystal
• 2 or 4 channel
• Dimensions: 215 x 234 x 137mm
• Weight: approx. 710g (inc. RF module, not inc. Battery )

http://www.tq-racing.com/products/sanwa/img/M11.jpg

[jocktheglide165]

well as time goes on I know I will have 30 some odd RC trucks thats for sure so this controller shall grow with me I know the M8 has only 10 and well thats not enough for me........

[tmaxxx05]

it just looks like an M8 to me.......

does anyone no what the new features????

[GramdeGixxer]

if you scroll up it says what the new features are.

[HotTrick]

I noticed it doesn't mention another needed improvement, does it still eat batteries or did they improve that as well. I never owned an M8 but have always heard it has quite a thirst for batteries. Hopefully it sips instead of chugs!

[Racer Rob]

You know, our radio systems aren't that advanced, I would say a $99 game boy is more advanced then they are, so why do they cost so much? Look at aircraft radios, they have touch screen and everything else. Why are car radios so behind the times with all the computer technology we have. I know one company is breaking the mold with some great new ideas, can't wait to see how well they work out. But to me, this is just another pointless over-priced, under featured radio system. Good job Airtronics. :rolleyes:

[JOK3R]

I have a futaba 3pk that goes through batteries like it was going out of style. I have since remedied that problem by running it off a 3cell lipo now. I can go the whole day of racing plus more with the new pack. I even changed my setting now to leave the backlit screen on all the time since I have the extra juice(not OJ or Canseco Juice - One will kill you and the other will make your b.... shrink hehe)

hehehe

[jocktheglide165]

You know, our radio systems aren't that advanced, I would say a $99 game boy is more advanced then they are, so why do they cost so much? Look at aircraft radios, they have touch screen and everything else. Why are car radios so behind the times with all the computer technology we have. I know one company is breaking the mold with some great new ideas, can't wait to see how well they work out. But to me, this is just another pointless over-priced, under featured radio system. Good job Airtronics. :rolleyes:


today I used my gameboy to control my emaxx, but didnt work can you help me out :rolleyes: :)

[performula]

I have 45 cars..... two are motorcycles....27 of them are 18th scale or larger... my M8 ran out of spaces long ago

Dude, you won the lottery? :D

[BCat125]

Looks very nice. Kind of bulky though. I have never used an m8 so i dont really know how the balance would be so i cant really judge it.

[Exe]

if someone's hacing quick battery drain in 3pk, buy or make 9 cell pack, i can drive 4 weekends with 9 cell ni-mh 2300 mah pack.

[dragracer28]

I just ordered one of these from tower it should be here in mid june according to tower. I never had an M8 but I do have an AM computer radio that I liked and have always liked the Airtronics radios and servos so I thought this would be a great radio to last me long time. :)

[nimble]

Just thought I'd mention we have an upgrade to the M8 for the DART Digital 2.4Ghz system.
It is what everyone has asked us for...
check it out www.nimblemotorsports.com

[Nutter]

Nimble: Interesting - you've gone with FHSS. I've read a number of articles that state in no uncertain terms that using a mix of several FHSS and DSSS systems in close proximity isn't a good idea as the reliability of both with be cut severely (with DSSS being the worse off of the two when there's FHSS devices in use). Using one or the other apparently is fine, but both is a no-no. That could get nasty at events if for instance there's an equal mix of both FHSS and DSSS..

For reference, the first article I found on Google on the subject: http://www.arcelect.com/DSSS_FHSS-Spead_spectrum.htm
Spread-spectrum radio is good at dodging interference from conventional sources – (signals that stay in one narrow area of the frequency band and don’t move. it doesn’t always do as well when there are other spread ,spectrum systems operating nearby, though. The more frequency-hopping transmitters operating on a band, the more likely it is that one or more of them will hop to the same frequency at the same time, garbling data that must be retransmitted. DSSS is better at resisting noise up to a certain point. However, if the combined interference throughout the band rises above a certain level, throughput dramatically drops-nearly to zero. Unfortunately, it only takes a few nearby FHSS systems to cripple a DSSS system. On the other hand, because a DSSS system is always transmitting on every frequency in the band, a nearby FHSS system may be unable to find any clear channel to hop to. In the presence of interference, FHSS usually degrades more gracefully than DSSS, but neither works well when competing at close range.
I don't think this comes down to a FHSS -vs- DSSS debate, but the simple fact that DSSS systems are already in widespread use, and the introduction of FHSS systems could wreak havok at large races.

[JOK3R]

has FHSS been approved by roar or any other RC sanctioning bodies for use in RC?

yeah that would suck if they all start glitching, hehehe, back to square one again.

[nimble]

DART uses FHSS because it is simply better, and can support many times more transmitters in use at once than DSSS can. Any robust 2.4Ghz radio system must be able to deal with intereference from other devices.

DART is ROAR approved.

[Nutter]

Well that article goes quite clearly against your assertion that FHSS will coexist with DSSS systems at an acceptable level. While yes, the FCC requires the devices to "deal with" interference from other devices, this does not mean that it's kosher and without implications. As that article explains quite well, DSSS can survive a certain level of interference - however the interference will cripple its throughput, to the point of quite quickly being unusable. Like I said originally, it's not a matter of DSSS or FHSS being better, but that DSSS systems are already on the market in wide spread use, and introducing a new product that is likely to cause possibly severe issues to those users is not cool.

Of course, perhaps that article is wrong.. but I'm quite sure I've seen other articles about the subject that also say the same thing.

[Nutter]

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[jocktheglide165]

uhhhh either way im getting M11

[Juice]

I would like to get the New M11 as well.

My concern is I want to go Spektrum and I get differant answers if the M11 will accept the current spektrum or not???? I cant get a good answer and I guess we will not know until somone has both in there hands

[Nutter]

Juice: I've heard that the up coming batch of Airtronics Spektrum modules will support the M11, though as for existing modules, perhaps it'll be a firmware upgrade (guessing here)?

To clear any possible confusion since it may appear otherwise, no I don't have anything to do with Spektrum/Airtronics/etc (I'm in Canada.. wrong country!). Just interested in both RC and electronics, and have looked into DSSS/FHSS previously for personal projects. :)

[nimble]

The M11 has two extra pins for PCM output, the other pins are the same
as the M8, so the Spektrum module will work if you drill out the holes for
the extra pins so it can actually plug in.

At RCX, the Airtronics guys brought over a M11 to our booth to try our DART M8 module, it didn't work, but we suspect the batteries were so worn down from demo'ing it at RCX that our module was having trouble, this bug showed up in our KO modules also and was fixed. Airtronics is sending us a M11 to confirm the fix, we will have a M11 module available once it is confirmed it works.

With years of experience building Wireless Internet, we have seen both FHSS and DSSS systems operating on the same towers, FHSS always works better, I would NEVER use DSSS for R/C. If you read Spektrum's website, they say they tried FHSS first, but couldn't get it to work, likely because they tried to use a system not designed specifically for R/C like ours. We've had the DART system being used alongside others using Spektrum without problems.
You might look at www.rctech.net there is some discussion there.

[revodude14]

I noticed that one of the features was traction control. How does that work?

[Hugh]

The M11 was supposed to be in stock on 06/24 somewhere online. I forgot. Anybody know who's got it yet. I need a transmitter.

[dkj-M3]

1. Adapt the new feature of ‘Extreme High Response Technology'.
‘The quick response technology', has been in great demand since we released the ‘M8', has updated to the breaking point and adapted to ‘M11'. This EHR Technology incorporates the opinion of drivers and allows you to enjoy the greater sense of operational feeling.

That is all it really needs, at least for me. When I started racing i had an FM sport radio. When I upgraded to an M8, I actually started making the A-main all the time(use to make the B-mains). The M8 just felt better & responded better to my inputs. The M11 should do it better than the M8 with the new High Respones tech.

[jocktheglide165]

www.ultimatehobbies.com has them in stock.

[redbaron]

BE WARNED.
HORIZON Hobby is sending out the wrong Spektrum modules for the M11.
I ordered a Spektrum specific for my M11 and it's for the M8! They will correct this for me in about 2 weeks....great customer service...Ha!
So much for being able to use my M11 for a while.

Thanks HORIZON!

[rcboy201]

the new spektrum units say its for the M8 on the box but it has a yellow M11 sticker on the back of the module, and it clips right in place

[redbaron]

the new spektrum units say its for the M8 on the box but it has a yellow M11 sticker on the back of the module, and it clips right in place

Maybe the people working at Horizon need to know that cause I ordered specificaly for the M11.

[rcboy201]

yeah, they need to put a M11 sticker on the box not just on the back of the module

but it will work......unless you have a 1st generation module

[redbaron]

I removed some of the circut board to allow for the 2 extra pins and the unit won't bind to the receiver. but it still works correctly in the M8.

[ADRIANO]

I removed some of the circut board to allow for the 2 extra pins and the unit won't bind to the receiver. but it still works correctly in the M8.


HI, U.S.A. friends, i write from Italy.
I have the M8 and also the Spektrum for the M8.
This module (spektrum for m8) work with the M11?
I wait the reply because if it work i buy the M11 immediately !! :p

Ciao,
Adriano

[redbaron]

I have the m8 with spektrum and I ordered the M11. I found out that the M11 has 2 additional pins, so I ordered the spektrum for the M11 from Horizon and the sent the unit for the M8. I had read on the forums that the only difference was the 2 additional pins, I belive there is more to it than that cause I modified my spektrum module to fit into my M11 and it won't bind to my receiver. I put it back in my M8 and it binds and works properly. It just won't work in my M11.
Horizon says they will start doing upgrades in about 2 weeks.

[ADRIANO]

I have the m8 with spektrum and I ordered the M11. I found out that the M11 has 2 additional pins, so I ordered the spektrum for the M11 from Horizon and the sent the unit for the M8. I had read on the forums that the only difference was the 2 additional pins, I belive there is more to it than that cause I modified my spektrum module to fit into my M11 and it won't bind to my receiver. I put it back in my M8 and it binds and works properly. It just won't work in my M11.
Horizon says they will start doing upgrades in about 2 weeks.

THANKS REDBARON,
when you will receive the spektrum from Horizon for the m11, please see the difference (if visible) an please reply me if is possible to accomodate the spektrum for m8 to m11 without buy the new module. I think that the difference is only in the pins or in the connections of the pins in the circuit of the module.
CIAO,
ADRIANO

[redbaron]

ADRIANO,
You will have to send in your spektrum module for an update. I was told by horizon their is no charge for this service.
I do know that the module for the M8 will not work in the M11, I have tried.

[Juice]

Spektrums are already out for the M-11. The sticker on the box says m-11/m-8

They are shipping because my hobby shop has 2 in the store

[ADRIANO]

ADRIANO,
You will have to send in your spektrum module for an update. I was told by horizon their is no charge for this service.
I do know that the module for the M8 will not work in the M11, I have tried.

ok,
when in august i will see Gil Losi (at the IFMAR world championships buggy),
i will deliver the module for the modification.

[npresme]

......

[C.J.OO]

Just when I thought RC had gone stale.
eh.

[redbaron]

Spektrums are already out for the M-11. The sticker on the box says m-11/m-8

They are shipping because my hobby shop has 2 in the store

I must have been the only one that Horizon has messed up, just wanted to let people know of any potential problems.

[Hugh]

If I installed the Spektrum in th 27mhz M11,would it operate and be the same as if it were installed in a 75mhz M11? Any body got the 75mhz in stock?

[redbaron]

If I installed the Spektrum in th 27mhz M11,would it operate and be the same as if it were installed in a 75mhz M11? Any body got the 75mhz in stock?


Hugh, It won't matter if you use spektrum with 75 or 27mhz M11. The only difference in the radio is the module.

I finally got the correct spektrum for my M11 and I will try it out on Saturday. Very impressed so far.

[redbaron]

The M11 worked flawless with the updated spektrum.

I'm amazed at how balanced and comfortable this is compared to my M8

[dkj-M3]

yeah, I held the M11 & it feels just like my M8, just feels a little better.

[glassdoctor]

"just feels a little better"... but a lot heavier.

M11 must use lead weights for balancing.

[dkj-M3]

yep, heavier, but not much. Seems to fill up my hand better. which means better grip at least for me.

[Hugh]

Finally ordered mine from Ultimate Hobbies. $250 shipped was the best price,by far,I could find. After being in the hobby for 2.5 years,this will be my first "real" radio upgrading from RTR transmitters. Man,am I stoked! BTW,They have the 75mhz model in stock and are currently out of the 27mhz,despite what the website states. At least that's what the rep told me yesterday when I ordered mine.

[HolmWrecker]

The M11 has two extra pins for PCM output, the other pins are the same
as the M8, so the Spektrum module will work if you drill out the holes for
the extra pins so it can actually plug in.

At RCX, the Airtronics guys brought over a M11 to our booth to try our DART M8 module, it didn't work, but we suspect the batteries were so worn down from demo'ing it at RCX that our module was having trouble, this bug showed up in our KO modules also and was fixed. Airtronics is sending us a M11 to confirm the fix, we will have a M11 module available once it is confirmed it works.

With years of experience building Wireless Internet, we have seen both FHSS and DSSS systems operating on the same towers, FHSS always works better, I would NEVER use DSSS for R/C. If you read Spektrum's website, they say they tried FHSS first, but couldn't get it to work, likely because they tried to use a system not designed specifically for R/C like ours. We've had the DART system being used alongside others using Spektrum without problems.
You might look at www.rctech.net there is some discussion there.

Hmm, all my M8 modules including the module for Kyosho cars plugged right in and worked fine.

[VABroom]

Just wondering, if you use the Spektrum in any radio, will you still have all the functions of that radio? Like some radios have a faster response but only if you use the receiver that came with the kit.

[dragracer28]

tower shipped my M11 today. I am only about 3 hours from there warehouse so it shouldn't take to long to get.

[Hugh]

Just got my M11 today. It's sweet! A little on the heavy side to a person that's used to chincy RTR radios. Question:Is it better/same/worse to use rechargable NiMh instead of higher voltage alkalines? I can see this thing rolling through some alkaline batts. I hope the lower voltage NiMh are okay. Let me know,somebody. Thanks alot.

[LasagnaCat]

You'll be fine with rechargable nimh's, no worries.

[belila]

You should try a Futaba 3PJ Super. I made my own pack with 8 2300mah GP cells. From full to empty takes under 2 hours. Hungry little sucker...

[C0NTENDER]

I was thinking that with the release of the m11, there would bea surge in M8s on ebay. I was hoping to scoop one up for a good price, but no surge of m8s on ebay and can't find a decent price online anywhere. Anyone have a link for a new or even slightly used M8s for a decent price.

[redbaron]

I was thinking that with the release of the m11, there would bea surge in M8s on ebay. I was hoping to scoop one up for a good price, but no surge of m8s on ebay and can't find a decent price online anywhere. Anyone have a link for a new or even slightly used M8s for a decent price.

I have a back-lite m8 that is 4 months old. I also have the spktrum unit with it, Both are supposed to be sold this weekend...If not shoot me your email and I will contact you,
evografix@hotmail.com

[traxxas_fan101]

am i the only one that still uses a hitec agressor??

[nitrothugg]

nope, i have a hitec aggressor srx with a spektrum. i love the simplicity and it was 115 bucks with a synthesized module. dont know why you are asking that in this thread though? ;)

[savagepicco26]

M8 and M11 are both overkill IMO. they're big, bulky, and cost too much for the amount of technology they have in them. my MX3 works great and does everything i need. can't even begin to justify the cost of an M8 or an M11 when they don't have anything i need for racing that my MX3 doesn't have. just my $0.02

[redbaron]

you can go to the store in a Geo.... you can RIDE to the store in a Cadillac!

[savagepicco26]

you can go to the store in a Geo.... you can RIDE to the store in a Cadillac!
i'd take a geo over a cadillac anyday. caddy's are overpriced chunks of metal for people that need to compensate for other shortcomings! :cool:

[redbaron]

i'd take a geo over a cadillac anyday. caddy's are overpriced chunks of metal for people that need to compensate for other shortcomings! :cool:


Well I guess u got me on that one!
Be Right Back....The ladies wanna ride my Caddy! :D

[nitro dude2005]

sorry but i think i am going to be sick that is well to big

[YR4Dude]

Finally ordered mine from Ultimate Hobbies. $250 shipped was the best price,by far,I could find.....

Was that for a trasmitter and receiver or just the transmitter only?

$250 including shipping is a very good price.

[Hugh]

Was that for a trasmitter and receiver or just the transmitter only?

$250 including shipping is a very good price.

Yep. Total price. Best online price,I think.

[Juice]

Think Ill ride to the store in my Hummer H2:) to get my M-11

[savagepicco26]

Think Ill ride to the store in my Hummer H2:) to get my M-11i wouldn't. the H2 is smaller and weighs less! :D

[GRUNDIG415]

can u use the specktrum system on the m11?

[Hugh]

GRUNDIG415-Yes

[GRUNDIG415]

thanks Hugh....

[redbaron]

can u use the specktrum system on the m11?

As long as you get your M8 spektrum updated or use the M11 Spektrum

[GRUNDIG415]

so they make the spectrum for the m11 too?

[redbaron]

so they make the spectrum for the m11 too?
Yes, The M11 has 2 extra pins and requires the new version of the spektrum that will work in both M8, M11

[jocktheglide165]

where are the servo switches for the 3rd and 4th channels? Is it the turning knob for switching servoes like in the m8? Just curious if I could use this is in my mountaineer 3 speed.

[Hugh]

I read a few posts back that someone got 2 hours of use on 2500mah batts. I just got 4.6 hours out of my 2250mah batts until the batt. alarm went off. Still got 10 more minutes after that. I'm quite pleased with that Of course,I don't have the backlight on religously,but it's on for at least 1/3 of the time.

[bdbeckman]

I noticed it doesn't mention another needed improvement, does it still eat batteries or did they improve that as well. I never owned an M8 but have always heard it has quite a thirst for batteries. Hopefully it sips instead of chugs!

That was good :D lol but true,very true :eek:

[dkj-M3]

They must have had a false peaking charger, because my 2200 can last 3 race days with out a charge. I have personally done this. 3 weeks in a row. It starts to beep, but hit a button to cut it off & it just kept on going. This is on the M8 without the backlight.

[ADRIANO]

As long as you get your M8 spektrum updated or use the M11 Spektrum

OK,
but the update is only for place 2 hole on the card of the spektrum module or also other modification at the M8 SPEKTRUM module?
This question only because today i have placed 2 new hole on the card of the module and after i place it on the M11.
Now, if i switch on the transmitter with the module plug on the tx, the spektrum doesn't work.
But if i switch on the tx without the spektrum module inserted and after i place the module, it work.
Why ????
And is all ok (all work) because with original module and rx the M11 work and also the spektrum system work well on my old M8.
If any american friends know the "transformation" for place the m8 spektrum on the m11, please reply to this topic.........because ship from Italy the M8 spektrum to Horizon is expensive.
Thanks
Ciao
Adriano

[redbaron]

ADRIANO,

I too modded my original Spek module and it wouldn't bind when it was in M11. I could put it in the M8 and it would bind just fine.

I had to get the updated M11 module.

[JakeE]

OK,
but the update is only for place 2 hole on the card of the spektrum module or also other modification at the M8 SPEKTRUM module?
This question only because today i have placed 2 new hole on the card of the module and after i place it on the M11.
Now, if i switch on the transmitter with the module plug on the tx, the spektrum doesn't work.
But if i switch on the tx without the spektrum module inserted and after i place the module, it work.
Why ????
And is all ok (all work) because with original module and rx the M11 work and also the spektrum system work well on my old M8.
If any american friends know the "transformation" for place the m8 spektrum on the m11, please reply to this topic.........because ship from Italy the M8 spektrum to Horizon is expensive.
Thanks
Ciao
Adriano

I believe Horzion performs a software update to the M8 Spektrum module in addition to the hardware modifications. This allows you to leave the module plugged in all the time as with the M8.

[dkj-M3]

the m8 spek module DOES NOT work with the M11 without the upgrade. The M8 novak switch works with the M11 just put 2 holes in the board.

[ADRIANO]

Thanks

[mxzhonkey]

M8 and M11 are both overkill IMO. they're big, bulky, and cost too much for the amount of technology they have in them. my MX3 works great and does everything i need. can't even begin to justify the cost of an M8 or an M11 when they don't have anything i need for racing that my MX3 doesn't have. just my $0.02

i upgraded to a m8 from a mx3. big difference. much smoother controlling and the m8 transmitts better. on my xxxtmf the mx3 was better than am for gliching but it still gliched. on the m8 it dont glich anymore. you can feel the difference when driving touring cars and other cars that need high persicion

[YR4Dude]

M8 and M11 are both overkill IMO. they're big, bulky, and cost too much for the amount of technology they have in them. my MX3 works great and does everything i need. can't even begin to justify the cost of an M8 or an M11 when they don't have anything i need for racing that my MX3 doesn't have. just my $0.02

Despite the fact that I've had an M8 for many years, I have to agree with you only in part.

Many times I find that the only thing I use is just the dual rate and the EPA (end point adjustments). Those features you already have in the MX3. Also, despite the 10 model memory, I can only handle 4-5 models at any time or at any week or month for that matter.(Although I do have more than 10 cars. Don't tell me any of you guys have less, we're all in the same boat).

However, those other features that you do not find on the MX3 that could help make your car easier to drive. Of course, this would mean spending more time with your car and experimenting with these features. Also bear in mind that on these upgraded radios, the response time is quicker than the average base radios. In fact on of the features on the M8 is to increase or decrease the speed sensitivity of both throttle and steering.

When and if you can find it within yourself to go for a better radio, you will find that it will help enhance your driving somewhat. Otherwise, if this weren't the case I would have stuck to my CS2P a long time ago.