Kyosho Mini Inferno

[StevePond]

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We got a chance recently to check out a pre-production version of the new Kyosho Mini Inferno when a few Kyosho hot shots brought it into town for a little testing. Jason Sams, one of our West Coast Editors, sat down with the Kyosho gang and got the scoop on this hottest new mini. Among other features, this machine runs on six alkaline cells or up to eight of the 2/3A-size Ni-MH cells. Additionally, it has a big 380-size motor, not the typical 280-size motor found in most other minis. The present schedule calls for a release date in February 2005, so it's not going to be here for Christmas, but it won't be much longer. Stay tuned for more info.


-Adjustable rear toe (comes with three different rear toe blocks)
- Adjustable front caster (20 and 22 degree front hubs provided)
- Several shock mounting positions in the both front and rear towers.
- Friction shocks (optional oil-filled with be available)
- Powered by 6 Alkaline dry cells or 8-cell NiMh GP 1100 cells
- Easily adjustable servo saver in right side bellcrank
- Full-time 4WD
- Slotted dish wheels with Mini-pin style tires (comes with foam inserts)
-380-sized motor
- Micro-sized servo (different servo mounts provided for the bigger "Mini" sized servos)
-Plenty of chassis space for upgrading to 1/10-scale electronics
- Receiver and speedo combo unit
- Adjustable slipper clutch
- Droop screws in the suspension arms
- Mounts for optional front and rear sway bars
- Adjustable motor mount
- Most parts (suspension arms, chassis, towers etc...) closely resemble 1/8-scale Inferno
- Foe engine cooling head can easily be removed with a single body clip

QUICK SPECS
Wheelbase: 176mm
Track F/R: 148mm
Weight: 800g
Motor: 380-sized
Wheel Size: 64mmX25mm
Length: 270mm
Final drive ratio: 10.8:1

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[ggfx-mikey]

thats neat

[shadmaster4]

Is that a 2-3 speed? Look at the motor shaft!

[rckid11]

Sweet!!!!!!!

[fanke19]

It's the start of a whole new mini class...watch!

[Saboteur]

Awesome. :)

[shibby6]

nice, 2-speed..... too bad my heart is set to a minizilla....

[Combatcm]

It's not 2 speed, one gear is the spur and the spur is connected through the slipper to the idler, which is connected to the center diff. I think it looks a little cheap and cluttered around the gears.

I don't like the saddle packs

you probably can't change the gear ratio.

I think kyosho rushed it. I want to get it, but I don't really like how its made. I know some guy in the conference room was really egging the idea of the saddles against the RC18T style chassis with the pack on the side. But you have to seal the gears somehow. Looks like its going to take a long time to take out the gears for maintenance.

I would also put my money on it being RTR as the battery in it looks as if its kit specific.

[NitroBoy24]

That thing looks good. But, they REALLY need to drop the cooling head and fake stinger :rolleyes:

[rcboy201]

that it the coolest thing i've ever laid my eyes on........i am going to have to get one

[sugs]

I didn't see it at first, but there is a clear cover over the gears which probably means a sealed transmission.

[T/Losi]

That is awesome :)

Cheers

[minimole]

Nice, but its got friction shocks!!! :eek: :eek: :eek:

[losiguy1090]

Pretty sweet looking car.

But I bet 10 bucks that this will turn into the next 1/8 buggy class, and before you know it, your paying 500 bucks for a mini :D :rolleyes:

[bobf24]

i think that looks absolutly too cool, and for how small it is, its amazingly adjustable, different rear toe, caster, and droop screws? i'm goign to have to put one of them on back order for sure,

[Cain]

Friction shocks, I sure hope that doesn't stay in the design. If anything really sucked on the stock Mini-T, friction shocks were at the top.

I am very interested in this vehicle, wonder when we can get some video of it and see how fast it goes on those 8 cells.

[MTkid7]

Any word on price?

[CooLJoE8]

Well, I'm a bit disappointed, but I'm still going to preorder one.

First and foremost, Friction Shocks need to go. Listen up Kyosho, we don't care how friggin cheap they are, get rid of them ASAP. I'd gladly pay an extra $20 if I got good oil shocks with it instead.

Also, the combo RX/ESC is another thing that needs to go. Didn't they learn from the Mini-T debacle? No one likes propretary electronics. And even worse, that thing looks IDENTICAL to the one that the Mini-T came with. I sure hope the servo is better.

Oh well, it holds a 380 motor, so I'll be throwing in my brushless setup right away. Just gotta figure out what pitch it uses for gearing.


Also, am I the only one that thinks the knuckles look rather large? And those shocks are definetely too big. Don't look very scale to me.

[Freak e-maxx1]

so much plastic on all the new mini's damn stop being cheap ae losi.......

[FantomTC3]

That little truck is sweet.

[Freedom]

so much plastic on all the new mini's damn stop being cheap ae losi.......


I have only one thing to say Tamiya TLT-1 Rockbuster :eek:

And it's a kit!!!

[k_bojar]

Also, am I the only one that thinks the knuckles look rather large? And those shocks are definetely too big. Don't look very scale to me.

You obvisiously don't own a 8th buggy...the shocks on the "real" buggies are pretty large - so the scaled down version would look just as large...

[zakerid]

It's not 2 speed, one gear is the spur and the spur is connected through the slipper to the idler, which is connected to the center diff. I think it looks a little cheap and cluttered around the gears.

I don't like the saddle packs

you probably can't change the gear ratio.

I think kyosho rushed it. I want to get it, but I don't really like how its made. I know some guy in the conference room was really egging the idea of the saddles against the RC18T style chassis with the pack on the side. But you have to seal the gears somehow. Looks like its going to take a long time to take out the gears for maintenance.

I would also put my money on it being RTR as the battery in it looks as if its kit specific.
did you see the pinion o the motor. I can see how someone may think it is a 2 speed. that is very odd.

[sosidge]

Already people are complaining about the car!

It looks just fine to me.

Plastic a problem? What else are you going to make it of? MP777's have lots of plastic too...

These cars sell as RTR's to people looking for compact electric fun - so friction shocks don't matter.

I don't know how you can make statements like the ESCeiver looks the same as the Mini-T one - you can hardly see it in these pics. Anyway, the problem with the Mini-T electronics was the special servo, the ESCeiver isn't so bad.

It'll go well on 8 cells and a 380 motor - but it seems a fair bit heavier than an RC18T without being much bigger, so I think it will be a more specialised interest than the 1/18th trucks - probably won't match them on the racetracks.

[Combatcm]

I guess I see how one might think its 2 speed. But I think its simply a gear reduction and slipper clutch. The pinion is really long though.

Maybe you can swap those 2 gears around? So the bigger gear is on the end of the motor pinion meshing to the center "diff" or whatever its going to be.

[thefasttrack]

its the same f***** servo i hate that

[CooLJoE8]

You obvisiously don't own a 8th buggy...the shocks on the "real" buggies are pretty large - so the scaled down version would look just as large...

You obviously are wrong.

I've owned 2 1/8th buggies and a Monster Pirate (which shared alot of buggy parts including the shocks). Those knuckles are not scaled down from 1/8th, nor are the shocks. I'm not saying they are overly huge, just that they don't look like scale versions.

[docman2]

But by being larger they should hold up to more abuse. If they were small then they would break easier and then people would complain about that.

[CooLJoE8]

I don't know about that.

If they were scaled down properly, they'd still be bigger than the ones available for the Mini-T, RC18T, and MiniQuake, and all of those ones hold up quite well to bashing. Even for friction shocks, the Mini-T ones hold up well. I did so much abuse to my Mini-T (full aluminum Mini-T with 8000kv brushless), that I bent turnbuckles left and right and never broke/bent a friction shock (yeah I know, its sad I still kept the friction shocks with all that aluminum. frictions are gone now though...got some oil shocks).

Probably one of the first things I'll do for my Mini Inferno is to replace the shocks with aluminum MiniQuake or Mini-T rears, since those are the longest mini/micro aluminum shocks out there.

[bobf24]

- Friction shocks (optional oil-filled with be available)

why not jsut use the kit kysoho is making for the car?

[CooLJoE8]

If they come out at the same time as the buggy itself.....sure. But that hasn't happened for any of the Micros yet.

[ducati777]

I think its funny you guys are talking about scale... Its a scaled down verson of a car that is a scaled down version of nothing....

[sugs]

My thoughts exactly...

[Freak e-maxx1]

NEW ERA should make a nitro conversion for this i would buy it then it would have a .11 or summin and it would be the next new thing

[delphidude]

/\ no minis are fine being electric. kyosho had a good idea just bad execution.

like stated before

i don't want those ****** electronics.
i don't want those ****** shocks.

[rckid11]

Yeh. The electronics are really going to keep it down. Why didn't they learn from the mini-t? Hopefully they will release a "team" kit that does not include electronics, and has more aluminum/cf parts, and NO FRICTION SHOCKS! And I bet the price will be VERY high knowing kyosho... I think I will wait for a kit....

[CooLJoE8]

/\ no minis are fine being electric. kyosho had a good idea just bad execution.

like stated before

i don't want those ****** electronics.
i don't want those ****** shocks.

You are using those statements incorrectly.

We hate the electronics and shocks because they used the cheap versions. Not because we want Nitro. Sorry, I'd rather NOT have nitro at this size. The market for small nitro engines, is crap. They aren't built for powering little cars at high speeds. Take the nitro Mini-T for example. It used a cox .06 or .049 nitro engine and reached 30mph at best. Not bad, but you can do better with brushless setup, that cost alot less than the nitro conversion for the Mini-T. Its just not worth it to go Nitro in the Mini/Micro car/truck/buggy world yet. Maybe if Kyosho teamed up with another engine manufacturer and created a tuned engine specifically for these, then I could see it being worthwhile.

[rckid11]

Also the point of mini's is using them indoors. Nitro leaves oil, smoke, and fumes. Also small nitro engines are really loud (i think). And I already have enough trouble starting my 1/8 scale nitro, its just nice to be able to plug a battery in and drive around.

[Saboteur]

Also the point of mini's is using them indoors. Nitro leaves oil, smoke, and fumes. Also small nitro engines are really loud (i think). And I already have enough trouble starting my 1/8 scale nitro, its just nice to be able to plug a battery in and drive around.

Complaints like sounds like you haven't mastered engine tuning. 8th scales in general are louder than 10th scales. They aren't many pipes for reducing noise and some that do reduce performance. Not flaming you or anything here, but it seems as if you just given up on your 8th scale. Which one are you running btw? If you ask around and give it a little while, you may be able to get the car running properly. Plug and play is great for electrics. IMO a nice BL setup is great for running around. It seems to cost a bit at first, but in the long run (and I mean long run) it pays off. I don't really spend much on my nitro vehicles nor have many upgrades on them. It's great in stock form. I do think about a BL system for my TL-01 and all, but I'm not to sure. I'd rather go monster truckin' this time and leave my 8th scale on the side for when I get bored with the MT.

Anyway, this is kyosho's first mini vehicle and a resemblence of an 8th scale. Something no other company did before. It's a start and they may offer upgrades for it later on. Other companies also started out with sport electronics and friction shocks. Could atleast give them credit.

[rckid11]

I also have a 1/10... Its a savage 25, and its tuned fine. Just with nitro's you have to deal with starting them.

[CooLJoE8]

Other companies also started out with sport electronics and friction shocks. Could atleast give them credit.

Credit for making a Mini 1/8th buggy? Yes.

Only 1 other company used those crappy all-in-one electronics. Losi Mini-T. And that was over a year ago, and people complained about it big time. I consider Kyosho morons for even thinking of using those electronics after all the crap Losi got for using them. The Trinity IB Spider has an all-in-one electronics package in their RTR version, but the servo is 3-wire, so standard servos should work just fine. The big flaw of the Mini-T electronics was that you were stuck with the 4-wire servo they used.

Yes, most of them came with friction shocks to start; Losi Mini-T, Trinity IB Spider, M18, MicroRS4. But then there are some that went past that and included oil shocks right away; RC18T, MiniQuake, MiniZilla. Even Losi learned form that and came out with the Mini-T Pro which has the better turnbuckles, oil shocks, no electronics, ball diff, etc. I'm sure Kyosho will release a special version of the Mini-777 at some point, but I think the electronics and friction shocks are a joke, and a stupid move on Kyosho's part. They could have atleast skipped the all-in-one electronics. I could deal with friction shocks out of the box, but those electronics are junk. Servo brakes, tough luck. You gotta send it back to Kyosho or hope the LHS has some spares from the Losi debacle or that Kyosho has spares for sale.




I think my only other complaint, which is quite specific so its not really a fault of Kyosho....just like a downside of the design, is that its going to be tough fitting in some of the 380 size BL motors. The 380 size BL motors are longer than a 380 brushed motor. And that spot is already kind of tight. But we'll see when they come out. I already have the 380 BL motor (for my MiniQuake).

[Saboteur]

rckid- I hardly have a problem starting any of my nitros. Just that I need xtra equipment to bring out on the field, which is no problem for me though. I went from pullstarts to starter boxes and won't go back...unless the vehicle only works with a P/S. Anyway electrics are cool for the start and go. Thinking of a T4 RTR. Not really sure what I'll buy with my X-mas money and $$$ I saved up.

[winning edge designs]

>sigh<........Racers, dudes, man, the thing is sweet.....it's geared towards the majority of the intended market, not for us racers. We will buy it and mod it up to multi hundo dollar spec ourselves, the average RTR buyer will never see a track!

If you owned a company in the R/C market and could sell 3000 units to racers for $220, or 28,000 units to the RTR market for $169, which would you do?....Here's the math, if you would profit the same $50 per unit let's say(easy math), $150,000 profit if you cater to us, or $1,400,000 if you cater to the RTR crowd..........no contest.

We can hope that they will eventually get to a race spec car, but it may take a little while like it usually does. I'm thinking they will have a truck version, or conversion as well before to long also! :)............Jim

[winning edge designs]

Note that the only people ever complaining about the Mini-T were the smaller "racing" crowd.....See math portion above, :).......Jim

[rckid11]

Nitro is just more maintence.... Now back to the topic...

[dirtbike]

That looks sweet, but i bet its not cheep like the other Mini's.

[CooLJoE8]

Note that the only people ever complaining about the Mini-T were the smaller "racing" crowd.....See math portion above, :).......Jim

Wrong.

I don't race my Mini-T, yet I complained about the combo ESC/receiver problem. And I remember others complaining, including non-racers.



And the comparison about selling X amount for $230 and X amount for $170.....tell that to Asssociated. The RC18T doesn't have those crappy electronics yet they sell like hotcakes. Heck, they even have oil shocks.

A properly made RTR Mini Inferno shouldn't need to cost over $200. With those crappy electronics and friction shocks, that thing better cost $150 or less. Above that and it better have seperate electronics and/or oil shocks. All the mini/micro R/Cs above $150 include both mentioned items (seperate ESC/receiver and oil shocks).



Anyways, lets just focus on the good points on this thing. I think the topic of crappy ESC/Receiver and friction shocks has been exhausted before by the Mini-T owners.

[Figit090]

I didn't read evey post, but i'll state my opinion on the buggy so far;

IT sucks!

lol....why?


The friction shocks - that's just plain skimping and they know it...they want more $$ so they'll make you want to upgrade the thing right off, bringing in more money, so you're paying for 2 sets of shocks. (UNLESS they perfected the friction design and made it worth using...doubt it though)

The imitation "nitro" heat sink - that is UBER-lame!! they could have made it some other shape but instead they choose to trick nitro finatics into thinking there is an awsome little nitro sitting one pit table over, or in the hobby shop display case...so they get us interested, and then we get dissapointed.....

The fake stinger?? - that's just stupid!! another sign they just want $$ so they make the thing look like something it's not... they know nitro has more "cool" factor so for more publicity they tack on a piece of plastic? that's silly.... I would appriciate it more if the heat sink and fake stinger were omitted...most ESC's don't need heat sinks anyhow....

IT COSTS OVER 200 BUX??? what the heck do they want from us!? I wish they'd just engineer it right and do it honest... instead of all these stupid bling-bling fakes...

Their new monster with a hood scoop and 2 engines?? A mini with imitation parts?? That monster's gotta be hell to get it runnin right...can you imagine what would happen if it flipped and slid a few feet on dirt or sand? that hood scoop would be like a shovel into whatever you're running on....

Now with duratrax, and losi...what stunts have they pulled? traxxas? AE?

I can't wait to see what the ads for this buggy look like....

[ncrego]

What I like is that Figit090 not only posted in both threads on this vehicle that he thinks it's Uber-Lame, but that he uses the term Uber-lame. Now that kid's one cool mofo.

That being said, I think it looks like a fun little car. I doubt I'll buy one, as I already bought an RC-18T, and never really run it, but it does look pretty good to me. I really couldn't care less if they put a fake stinger and heat sink on it. These things are basically toys to play with, and chase the cat around the house. I'm sure it'll be good for that, as well as racing on small tracks.

[winning edge designs]

Cooljoe8, some good points, but unfortunatly, I think the A/E RC18T's plastic oil shocks will quickly be replaced by people who like to have bling bling. As will the radio gear, tires, body, etc..............Every racer always and some RTR bashers will complain about the radio gear, then swap in a high end receiver, speedo and radio. Next they will buy $200 worth of aluminum and high power motors, etc., or more.

The majority of people WANT to customize, or modify thier cars, no matter what.

I have seen posts from people asking about reservoir shocks for the LST for goodnes sake! LOL...............They don't hold enough oil, hahaha?

I once had a Micro RS4, until guys started showing up at the track with $600 micro RS4's. Now it's $600 Mini-T's, soon $600 RC18T's......People can't get enough of the bling bling. The manufacturers are trying to meet the demand, until the market is saturated..........I can't really blame em', when people keep buying it......Jim

[Freak e-maxx1]

any one know when its comin out or who is going to sell it?

[CooLJoE8]

Cooljoe8, some good points, but unfortunatly, I think the A/E RC18T's plastic oil shocks will quickly be replaced by people who like to have bling bling. As will the radio gear, tires, body, etc..............Every racer always and some RTR bashers will complain about the radio gear, then swap in a high end receiver, speedo and radio. Next they will buy $200 worth of aluminum and high power motors, etc., or more.

The majority of people WANT to customize, or modify thier cars, no matter what.

I have seen posts from people asking about reservoir shocks for the LST for goodnes sake! LOL...............They don't hold enough oil, hahaha?

I once had a Micro RS4, until guys started showing up at the track with $600 micro RS4's. Now it's $600 Mini-T's, soon $600 RC18T's......People can't get enough of the bling bling. The manufacturers are trying to meet the demand, until the market is saturated..........I can't really blame em', when people keep buying it......Jim

True, people upgrade for the bling bling factor. Let them. I didn't say there was a problem with that. However, FORCING people to upgrade by using cheap parts is crap, and thats what Kyosho is doing with the Mini Inferno; by using friction shocks and all-in-one ESC/RXs that are known to be junk.

[winning edge designs]

I get what your saying, i'm just saying it's a little harsh to call it junk. I think the gear they install in cars of this nature is acceptable and economical, keeping costs down for the majority of buyers who will never notice.

Trust me, being in the industry for almost 20 years, I know how it works. If they spend $20 more on better radios or electroinics, the RTR's will sell for $20 more. You'll never get the better equipment and the same price.

When someone has seen a Ferrari, then they buy a Taurus and call it junk.....I'd say each suits an ideal audience or has it's purpose.

I think the little car is pretty cool and no matter what gear it came with, if it wasn't running on an XS3 Pro radio, with one of the $100 micro speedo's, or maybe a brushless set-up, it would come out anyway.........jmho, Jim

[CooLJoE8]

I know, I understand that.

But I'm saying I'd rather they put in better electronics and shocks and up the price of the thing. I'd pay the extra.

Those electronics ARE junk. Well, the ESC and receiver part work, but forcing you to use a specific servo is crap. And worse off, the servo is complete junk. I wouldn't have minded if they used the same stuff Trinity used in the IB Spider. Their all-in-one electronics allow the use of any 3-wire servo.

[Cain]

My thing is seeing how AE did it with there vehicle, and the price is not that much more than say the Losi, It is possible to put better stuff in there than just that. Heck, I can get a 1/10 size Evader ST RTR for around the price this will sell for.

[1822]

I'm with Winning Edge - they simply made a business decision to equip a car in manner that would make it affordable for most customers. When you start realizing that the world doesn't spin on an axis underneath your feet, you might realize that it's a complex decision that isn't always going to result in exactly what YOU want. I don't understand why you need to trash talk because it isn't featured exactly as you would like it. There's nothing wrong with saying "I would prefer it if it came with this and this and that," but to call it crap?! I'm trying to see things from your point of view, but I can't get my head that far up my ass. ;)

[CooLJoE8]

I'm with Winning Edge - they simply made a business decision to equip a car in manner that would make it affordable for most customers. When you start realizing that the world doesn't spin on and axis underneath your feet, you might realize that it's a complex decision that isn't always going to result in exactly what YOU want. I doubly don't understand why you need to trash talk because it isn't featured exactly as you would like it. There's nothing wrong with saying "I would prefer it if it came with this and this and that," but to call it crap?! I'm trying to see things from your point of view, but I can't get my head that far up my ass. ;)

Can't have a civil discussion can you? Have to throw nasty words around a call names to get a point across?

thats sad....

Oh well, if winning edge designs wants to discuss it with me further, I will. But I won't even bother with you. You don't seem to care to have a nice discussion, like him and I were already having. Come back when you can act like an adult. Til then, Good day sir.

[1822]

LMAO... You still think it's all about you. You need to work on that. ;) Although you were also one that was jumping all over Kyosho's junk for not making the exact car you would want, your comments were only a part of what I was referring to as excessive and immature. Now, let's have a look at the key words used by Joe:
Cheap (2 times)
Crap (3 times)
Crappy
Morons
Junk (3 times)
This is a product that you've never even put your hands on, driven, or even seen from a distance. Still you manage to insult the product and the people who make it at least ten times. Now, what's so hard about saying, "I would prefer that it came with oil shocks and separate electronic components."? The irony is that I agree with you and would also prefer separate, standardized electronics so I can mix things up a bit, I would also like it to come with oil shocks (which I understand should be available right away). But I also "get it" when Kyosho doesn't spec it that way because it would raise the price too much and put it out of reach for a lot of people. It's economics 101 - raise the price and you WILL lose customers. So, while I would prefer a better equipped car, I know why it doesn't come that way and will either upgrade it to my satisfaction, or chose not to buy it. What's so hard about understanding that?

[1822]

Here are some quotes that got my attention, some of which should have resulted in bans:

Listen up Kyosho, we don't care how friggin cheap they are, get rid of them ASAP.

its the same f***** servo i hate that

/\ no minis are fine being electric. kyosho had a good idea just bad execution.

i don't want those ****** electronics.
i don't want those ****** shocks.

Only 1 other company used those crappy all-in-one electronics... I consider Kyosho morons for even thinking of using those electronics...

The RC18T doesn't have those crappy electronics... I think the topic of crappy ESC/Receiver and friction shocks has been exhausted...


IT sucks!

The friction shocks - that's just plain skimping and they know it...they want more $$... The imitation "nitro" heat sink - that is UBER-lame!!.. they choose to trick nitro finatics into thinking there is an awsome little nitro...

The fake stinger?? - that's just stupid!! another sign they just want $$... I wish they'd just engineer it right and do it honest... instead of all these stupid bling-bling fakes...

FORCING people to upgrade by using cheap parts is crap, and thats what Kyosho is doing with the Mini Inferno; by using friction shocks and all-in-one ESC/RXs that are known to be junk.

Those electronics ARE junk... forcing you to use a specific servo is crap. And worse off, the servo is complete junk.

[Jason C]

I'm seriously interested in this little buggy. Yes, having proprietary electronics isn't the ideal way to do it IMHO, but that's the way it goes. I hope Kyosho releases a kit version to satisfy the more serious drivers. I'd definately buy a kit since I've got enough RTR radios to build a NASA satellite.

[Rookie Solara]

The problem I see on this buggy is......a little OVER for a mini/micro.....OVER = a little over engineered (really dont' want to use that term cause that belongs to Serpent Veteq...) But look at RC18T and the upcoming M18T Xray (the simple and fast drivetrain design).....I do not see those mini are any slower or worst then this Kyosho....then the first thing owner of this buggy will do is remove all the electronics and drop in the Memba and micro metal gear servos....then 8 cells Gp 1100.

[ElectricThunder]

Personally, I think it's a great idea to have an 18th scale buggy, but I believe Kyosho went about it in a somewhat funky way. Now, only reviews will tell just how good it is, and it does look good, I mean, 9.6 volts on a 380 motor will probably make it SCREAM, but it's not perfect, and no car/truck/etc is perfect. I just think the drive train could be simpler (like Rookie Solara said). All in all, friction shocks are OK, but then again, when it's 200 bucks you'd think you'd get some nice oilys on it or a seperate receiver/ESC combo and not an ESCeiver or whatever.

1822- I only see two real problematic quotes you put out there ( the ones that set off the potty mouth filter ). Don't worry about it. The mods around here are good, they'll do what they have to do to keep RCZ a clean place. ;)

[winning edge designs]

:)....I'm not gonna do anything to get 1822 mad at me....he's on the ball pretty well, haha.

I will say that "I" would like the car to have less fake gadgets and more good equipment.....but, being a "racer" you would expect me to say that.

For the father and son cruising the Hobby shop or looking in an R/C magazine while mom shops in Wal Mart, that Kyosho Mini 1/18th scale may get Big K a sale!.....................Jim

[minijosh]

So any word on when we can buy this online or at a near by store???

[Ultima Pro XL]

So any word on when we can buy this online or at a near by store???
Looked at the Kyosho web page and it said that this buggy will have a world wide release on April 1st 2005.

[PitStops]

However it comes, I WILL own a few of these. My wife an I were just discussing the other night that if someone ever came out with a mini elec buggy we would have to own them. rtr or kit it doesn't matter to me I will swap it all out for better gear, and add the oil filled dampers.

more cars to add to the family, on top of the already too many.

YEAH, and the wife is already planning on getting them when they hit the stores.
That never happenes. lol

[studysession]

I want one! :)

[munim]

Three words that will speak volumes about Kyosho:

Great Planes and money

[studysession]

Any release dates?

1822 - Yeah, I am surprised those posts were not deleted or something.

[globaltruckin]

it should be nitro
that is all

[microrcdude]

ITS FEBRUARY!! it says its due in feb, but i dont see it yet.

[studysession]

I thought it was posted April being the release date on the Japan website.

[buggyman17]

ya. i thought it was supposed to be due in feb!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[minijosh]

Gran Turismo 4 was due in Feb. Wait a minute, it was due a few months ago. Hmm will this be pushed back like GT4? I sure hope tower carries them.

[buggyman17]

i would rather get Realrace G3 over GT4 anyday!

[minitdriver]

Ok so i see that some people aren't agreeing on the stock equipment.Thats understandable but think about it.The stock electronics can take a 370 motor and 8 cell and thats what the factory uses so it can probly take more.Now i know that won't be enough for everybody(thats y i have an all aluminum/carbonfiber mini-t with a mamba).so i say ur dealing with the same struggle that all T-maxx owner/racers went through.So y should it change anymore because the scale is smaller.I think this was a samrt decision on Kyosho's part becasue although it maybe pricy this will be a good car to start with.
Most of these micro cars are meant for youngins to have a try at RC without having a big $240 investment but a $120 envestment or in this case $200.but of course the racers will come down and race these mini cars but they are all rtr's and so they aren't quite up to spec to what they want but they weren't really meant for racers.Now they are more racier and all the features in this buggy prove to me.even if u have to put more money in to it to make it a serious racer.
stay classy

[fanke19]

I got a RC18T in December, and I fell in love with it. Most of the other guys in my are have had Mini-T's for over a year...so I feel I'm coming into this mini off road scene late. But after seeing this Kyosho half 8, I am really looking forward to picking one of these up next fall. :D

[TMaxxBenny25]

Im gettin real race G3 and Gt 4!

[studysession]

You have any links?

[vertigo002]

i was thinking about a rc18t but now... :rolleyes: how com i cant find one on towerhobbies???!!! some bad things in it, some great things in it...nice overall

[RCNewbGuy]

It's Feb 2005, shouldn't these things be out soon? I can't tell if it's Nitro or Electric... there's a nitro motor but I see an electric engine? Maybe they couldn't decide so they were still testing? Also, what scale are they?

[TMaxxBenny25]

Its electric. its 1/16 scale.

[4wdmt]

thats just a fake aluminum head.

[4wdmt]

im just wondering, how come tower doesnt list this one yet? usually, they post it months before the manufacturers' release date.

[RespirologyRC]

I read somewhere that it is coming out next week!

[studysession]

The manufactures site in japan lists it to be out in April.

[RespirologyRC]

OH well!

[vertigo002]

im just wondering, how come tower doesnt list this one yet? usually, they post it months before the manufacturers' release date.


^^^JINKS^^^^ :D

[TMaxxBenny25]

Its comin out world wide APRIL 1st!!!! go to www.kyosho.co.jp

[buggyman17]

thats nice. if i could only decide between the half 8 and the rc18t...

[rckid11]

This thing is going to be very competitive. It can use 1/10 scale servos which is a big plus. Kyosho is going to release MANY upgrades from the start including carbon fiber parts, aluminum shocks, ect. This site has lots of great pictures showing the upgrades and the overall layout of the buggy, http://www.rchall.com/viewtopic.php?t=69 . And just to tell you guys that are talking about the esc/receiver combo, all of Kyosho's electronics are made by Ko Propo. That means this is also, so you can trust that it will be lots better than the stock Mini-T electronics. I can't wait till it comes out!

[RespirologyRC]

Correction, I recently read a write up in rc car that stated that regular size servos couldn't be used!

[RespirologyRC]

I also read that it should be out sometime this month:)

[TMaxxBenny25]

Im drooling over all the incredible hop ups!! So much stuff so little money$$$$

[AE_racer38]

does anyone know if it comes with bearings or bushings? i read that it's supposedly gonna sell for over $200. for that much,this thing ought to come loaded!

[studysession]

http://www.kyosho.co.jp/web/products/car_bike/half8/mini_inferno/mini_inferno_series/mini_inferno_series-e.html

[TMaxxBenny25]

i ddint see any mention of balls or bushings...

[RespirologyRC]

I have also read in one of the links above that there will be 2 versions coming out. One is "standard" and the other is considered a "Classic" version. I'm not sure what the differences are but this should be interesting:)

In R/C Car magazine they say that this is faster than all of the current micro vehicles on the market:)

[buggyman17]

well of course its gonna be faster. its got a HUGE motor and its a mini 4WD buggy. what did you expect? and its made by kyosho. thats another add ont o its being a buggy designed after one of their champion inferno's

[AE_racer38]

studysession,your link doesn't go to anything.

[studysession]

It works for me. Dunno -

It goes straight to the product page on Kyosho's website in Japan for the Mini Inferno.

[AE_racer38]

it works for me now too. had a problem with adobe.

[TMaxxBenny25]

www.kyosho.co.jp is the best sight for me.

[hyperstang]

Someone said that they pre ordered this thing. Where can you pre order it??

What site...

thanks

[ILuvMyB4]

ok. this is tough. half 8? or RC18T?
i cant decide...

[rckid11]

Go half 8. Tower hobbies will be carrying it for 180, but with their 25 off deal it will be 155, which is a great deal. I am getting a half 8, because it just seems like it was designed really welll, and it will have lots of hopups shortly after release. Kyosho is known for their quality buggies, and I think this will be the same quality as the 1/8 scales.

[hyperstang]

at the towers website, what is the number for the mini inferno or product number??

thanks

[ILuvMyB4]

ok. maybe i will get a half 8 instead of a 1/8 and get a BJ4 woth the money...

that sounds like a good plan. :p

[ixlr8]

hey guys my first post hope you like these pics and a cool half 8 forum is http://www.halfeight.com

[ixlr8]

here's another

[rckid11]

Welcome ixlr8!

[ixlr8]

thak you patner

[reelinfeele]

half 8 is ordered. will be a regualr on web. thanks.... wwwmariojm@earthlink.net

[ILuvMyB4]

ok. i have decided on a half 8. i really want a 1/8 buggy (who doesnt) bu t since i dont have the money, i will just get a mini 1/8 instead! then i will get T4 or something.

[hyperstang]

Where did you order the half 8 from. I have a friend who is currently in Japan and I hope he brings back one of these bad boys.

[TMaxxBenny25]

HEY!!! Its out today !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! CAnt find where to buy 1 HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[mims28]

My vintage Kyosho 1:20 baja-bugs buggies (salute and ultima) go out in a few hours on ebay, figured I'd be able to cover a half-8 with profit but the old ones were pretty cool.

[RCBASHERFREAK50]

U r the wienie u stupid gay a$$ loser. At least ive got the balls to run nitro and drive hard. SHUT up u B4 idiot.

On ebay the shipping is $38!!!!!!!!!!!!! its from hong kong
You need to take it easy. Acting the way that you are is showing that you are very imature. Just becasue you drive nitro doesn't mean much. I drive Nitro, Electric and 18th scale. It really doesnt reflect what kind of person you are.

[TMaxxBenny25]

I know. He just like to piss me off. Well. Has anyone found a distributor other than E-Bay?

[cheechthechi]

Tt'll probably take awhile I imagine for the half 8's to reach lhs nearby.. that if if it just got realeased in Japan april 1st... ebay is your bet for now.

[ducati777]

I'm confused, over at one18th, they show the half 8 and the mini 77, and they appear to be two different cars...

AND... a dood put mini 777 wheels on the rc18t, said he used the 777 hexes, so what size hex does the mini 777 use?

[hyperstang]

Will the wheels on the half eight fit on an RC18T??

Thanks

[RCBASHERFREAK50]

ya, they use a hex over the pin in the axel like a monster truck. Just put the hex over the pin and voila. The mini 777 is crap. Go with the rc18t and buggy conversion..its only 17 bucks

[hyperstang]

I actually got a buggy body/wing set off of 1/18th .com and I just wanted to know if the wheels will work on the RC18T.

Thanks

[ducati777]

Well you'll need the hex's from the mini 777 to fit em on the RC18T.

Does anyone know the hex size?

[RCBASHERFREAK50]

Im going to get that buggy body for it too but they are out of stock for 2 more weeks

[T4Maxx13]

Why is the Mini Inferno crap?

[RCBASHERFREAK50]

its soo heavy
it takes tooo much to make it good

[ducati777]

but what size is the wheel hex? can you put touring car wheels on it? (12mm)

[T-EVO RACER]

how much is wing mount and a wing??and how do you get the wing and mount?? cause I don't see it at any stores.

[crymynal]

Ok...let me clarify a few things for everyone and yes I do have a H8, Half Eight, Mini Inferno, Mini 777......whatever you want to call it today.

The buggy looks nice and SEEMS to be designed well. First impressions really say it all. SLOWWWWWWWW. Pogo sticks for shocks. Open diffs. Enough said.

So, coming soon to my mail box is.....
Mamba 6800
GP1100's
HS-85MG (no a 1/10 servo will not fit)
Bearings (stock-some bearings, some bushings)
Tamiya anti-wear grease (for the diffs)
Oil filled shocks

Second impressions will hopefully come soon.

[ducati777]

Yea but how big are the wheel hex's? I can't seem to find info on this anywhere!

[RCBASHERFREAK50]

touring wheels do fit

[ducati777]

touring wheels do fit

Ah ha!! Thanks so much! I'm of course lookin for the cheapest way to fit touring wheels to my 18T....

[T-EVO RACER]

ok, does anyone know how much a half8 wing and wing mount cost??

[catalysst]

touring car wheels do NOT fit. They require the trinity adapter. Check out www.halfeight.com for the real info.

[RCBASHERFREAK50]

according to the one18th forum it does

[catalysst]

I own a half eight and their is no way a touring hex will fit...the half8 hex is about half the size of a regular 1/10th hex. However, trinity sells an alluminum adapter for the itsy bitsy spyder that allows you to bolt on a regular touring wheel. They are machined allum and tower still has some in stock. I am a member and friend of the owner of that site. Good place to get info and check out new stuff with the micro scene.

[nitro_newbie]

i dont know wat this means does this mean that it already come with thenm or are they the part numbers for the it is at hobby people
so can you guys help me out here this looks pretty neat
http://mysite.verizon.net/res757w1/index.html

[hyperstang]

I'd like to know how everyone is locking down the center diffs???

thanks

[xaM]

You dont lock the center diff, you lock the slipper clutch. What you want to do is take out the slipper grap onto it and tighten the nut down as much as you can, that should do the trick.

[hyperstang]

Yeah..not center diff, but you know what I was talking about. And I did that already, I have been doing this for awhile now, but is there a permanent way to lock her down. I remember reading that someone glued the slipper clutch down or something like that..

thanks in advance

[Kden46]

Hey hyperstang where did you pick up your Half8 from? Locally?

How do you like it?

Sold my 18t to get into one of these or a mlst?

[1822]

I lock up the center diff in mine. I found that I was losing too much acceleration. I glued the gears of the center diff for running on a dirt track and the car gets much more punch now.

[hyperstang]

Any word on the 540 conversion. I know CAW is making an 540 kit for the inferno and has tested it out with the 5800 Novak BS motor. Can't wait for that bad boy to come out. need some extra gears as well....

[1822]

With all the horsepower that you can get from modified 380 motors and brushless, I'm curious why a 540 conversion would be appealing.

[hyperstang]

Why not??????

Same reasons why people would create a 1/18th scale with a nitro motor (XRAY) in it. Becuase you can...

[StevePond]

I agree. A 540 motor is just a little big for the Mini Inferno chassis when just a much power can be had from a 380-size brushless. It's all good, I just question whether it's worth the effort to stuff a 540 motor in the car.

[butters]

Question:

I just aquired my Mini Inferno and installed a GP 1100 saddle pack with deans plug and a Competion X Mamba system with stock pinion and spur. Well in my hand it runs good, but on the ground it studers spurts and kicks like a mule. Also the motor gets RED HOT and so does the ESC! I mean really hot fast. Now I swaped out the guts and put in a spy esc and a big block motor with the same saddle pack and its fine. What gives? Any advice? I'm going to try the Mamba system in my Mini T cause there I can diagnose things easier. But I really wanted the Mamba in the Inferno.

One more thing at times it will run good and kick alittle then nothing but kicks, (with the mamba).

thanks,
James

[dj_ski69]

The problem with your mamba is that it is a 180 size motor that is not really cut out to power the heavy mini inferno like it can the smaller, lighter, 18th scale RC's.... The stock motor is a 380 size motor, the mamba is a 180 size...you do the math.....
If you want to go brushless in the Mini Inferno you are better off going with a lower Kv motor such as the AON 4900 or the Hyperion 5000....These motors produce more torque than any of the mambas, and run a lot cooler than the mambas....



peace

SkI

[butters]

Not to argue, but then what about all of the success storys? Even in the latest "RC Dirt" mag there is a article about running Mamba with no problems. There is at any given time 2-3 cars sold on ebay with Mamba installed. Even with other forums I read guys doing it. You are right the motor size is bigger. But I successfully ran a Micro Big Block with a Novak Micro Spy ESC with no problems.

[StevePond]

There are plenty of people that have run Mamba motors in the Mini Inferno with good result. I think poor results have more to do with poor set-up than motor size. Hopefully you would agree that there's not much sense in comparing the diameter of a brushless motor to that of the stock 380-size motor. In my opinion, the technologies are so different that there's no foundation to the "stock motor was this big so the brushless motor needs to be that big" method of picking a motor. I'm sure the larger motors have great power potential and maybe don't require as much gearing attention, but I've seen Mambe motors do EXTREMELY well in the Mini Inferno.

Re: the motor stuttering - I believe there is a profile selection in the speed control that makes that go away. I would call the guys at Castle and I'm sure they can walk you through it. As I understand it, the speed control needs to "find" the position of the rotor so that it can start energizing the segments of the stator at the proper frequency. When the car is not moving this seeking process in a sensorless motor may cause the stuttering that you mentioned, but I think there's a setting in the software profile that prevents this. In the interim, I believe you can get around this by just giving the car a slight push before stabbing the throttle.

I agree on the KV rating - stick with a 4000 to 5000 KV motor and it'll run much better. the higher KV motors appear to have less bottom end and only seem to do well as long as you're content doing speed runs up and down the street. the lower KV motors seem to have more punch and will still push the car up into the high 40s or 50s.

[butters]

:) I sold off the competition X package and bought the performance package. This was after I talked to Berney from Castle Creations. The Inferno kicks butt! Now, I need to get a better pinion. I melted away a plastic Mini T pinion. I did upgrade the spur gear to alloy so I think that caused the heat. I always felt that aluminum, alloy or any kinda of metal gear was better then plastic, but now I'm not so sure. I'm using a Associated pinion and it is reshaping the alloy spur gear. After some major run time I had micro shavings every where.

Any opinions?

[minijosh]

I'm still waiting for the ST to come to me. Gonna install the 68K in mine but after reading that little bit I might swap for the 54K.

[StevePond]

Good idea. Motors above 5000 Kv tend to have too much rpm and not a lot of bottom end. They just don't run in a RPM range that's suitable for the buggy or ST. I would say that 5400 Kv is at the upper end of the range, but it'll be much better than a 6800 Kv motor.

[butters]

Does anyone have any pinion links to share for the Mini Kyosho? I currently have the alloy spur and slipper gear.

[Potash]

Steve I was wondering where you can get batteries like those? because the kit we have at the shop only came with lame AA holders and i know it goes faster. :confused:

[killaj]

I'm running an Align brushless 430L motor in mine and also use the pinion from Align that's meant for the Trex Helicopter. You can buy them in 11, 13, 15t sets for less than 10 bucks.

[StevePond]

Steve I was wondering where you can get batteries like those? because the kit we have at the shop only came with lame AA holders and i know it goes faster. :confused:

Kyosho offers a Ni-MH battery pack for the Mini Inferno, as do a few battery companies, like Ballistic Batteries. The AA holders are only there for people that want to get rolling and can't afford a battery pack right away. The performance is MUCH better with a rechargeable pack. The voltage with alkaline batteries is a little higher, but they have too much resistance and they can't deliver enough juice for maximum performance even with the stock motor.

[marctroy]

I'd like to install a Hitec HS-81MG servo in my Kyosho "Mini Inferno" but the Hitec servo has 3 wires and the ESC/Receiver combination (which I'd like to keep for now) has a receptacle for 4 wires (as came on the Kyosho Perfex servo). I've tried all possible positions and the Hitec servo doesn't respond.

Any ideas?

Thanks!

[butters]

As far as I know it's all or nothing. Sorry. But I can tell ya that once you upgrade you will be happy. I got a Novak Spy and a XXL FM receiver cheap from ebay.

[Tamiya4ever]

Has anyone seen these? They look really outstanding. I may pick one up when and if they make it to the USA. Looks pretty realistic.
http://www.kyosho.co.jp/web/products/car_bike/half8/light-armored-vehicle/defense_army/defense_army-j.html

[balang_479]

Yeah thats the problem to upgrade to a more powerful servo you have to replace all the electronics.. im sure were all gonna do that anyway...
but its would be nice if they all just made separate electronics so you could upgrade easier..

[balang_479]

Does anyone have any pics of their MIni Infernos all hopped up?, really interested to see what you have done to them to make them better?

[killaj]

I have some kewl pics of one but the file size is too large for this forum. Let me know and I can send them to you..

[MAcsLR]

I'm running an Align brushless 430L motor in mine and also use the pinion from Align that's meant for the Trex Helicopter. You can buy them in 11, 13, 15t sets for less than 10 bucks.

Hi Killaj,

Can you share your setup of the Align 430L motor...what ESC and batteries are you using?

Also have you upgraded anything else...or you just droppped in the motor and pinnion...?

Can you send some pictures? I have a align motor sitting around from my Trex...now I can put it to good use in my half8.

macslr@yahoo.com if pics are to big to post here.

Cheers.

[MAcsLR]

Guys,

What about using Sanyo AA 2700Mah rechargeble batts x 6? Is this good or it's better to get a 9.6v pack...?

[minijosh]

Go straight for the 8 pack. Nothing but pure power.

[minijosh]

Get rid of the crappy stock electronics. I run a 6800 Mamba or a VR4 esc with a rocket 400 motor. That way my Hitec 225MG runs perfect with the normal rx.

[killaj]

MAcsLR: Just sent you some pics but forgot to mention that I tried to make some packs from 2500Mah sanyo AA's with so-so results. Lipo packs are the way to go. A couple of 3s 1500Mah in parallel would do just the trick for some serious get-go..

[balang_479]

i will be mounting touring car wheels on mine soon, and keep the stock gear, im gonna have some top speed and but a reduce in acceleration.

[Aluma]

hi everyone, I have a buddy who put a mamba into his mini inferno and apparently destroyed his differentials(all of them) but cant find replacements anywhere online.
Would you all know a place that does have them (original or better ones) in stock, he also needs a small pinion( forgot the size, think it might be an 8T)
Thank you for any help you can provide. :D

[StevePond]

I would suggest upgrading to a sealed differential or a metal gear sealed differential that's currently used in the Nitro 09 car. MIP also makes ball differentials.

Here are a few online stores where you might find these parts - if they're not listed on the site, I know they carry Kyosho product so a quick email or a phone call will probably help.

www.amainhobbies.com (http://www.amainhobbies.com/)
www.ultimatehobbies.com (http://www.ultimatehobbies.com/)
www.micromacromundo.com (http://www.micromacromundo.com/)

...Or you can go to www.shopkyosho.com (http://www.shopkyosho.com/) and use the Shopatron system, which enables the closest stocking dealer to fulfill the order.

[Aluma]

thank you!

[Quinton]

I've thought about getting one of these or the truggy version in place of my rc18t.
What are the pro's and con's of the 2 models?

Thanks

[balang_479]

The steering system is really bad. The turning radius is about the same as my MP777, so rubbish for a 1/16 (my 1/8 buggy instead is amazing)

[T/Losi]

Just came across this great site about the Kyosho Mini
http://www.halfeight.com

[t9dragon]

I've thought about getting one of these or the truggy version in place of my rc18t.
What are the pro's and con's of the 2 models?

Thanks

IMO

I would go with the truggy version. It has sealed diffs, longer arms.

[jamesbernatchez]

Well lets revive this shall we....i have a question. I havent purchased a mini inferno yet but have bought this for it:

https://www.speedtechrc.com/store/ebproductdetail.asp?catmainid=518&id=6233

I cant for the life of me figure out where the servo would mount. i assume in the front on the left side of the chassis since the motor will be on the right but how the heck would it mount??? Im stumped. Anybody else using this conversion?

James

I also purchased graphite front and rear shock towers for it :D

[t9dragon]

I don't have that chassis. But yes the servo mounts on the left side where the motor would be located in the stock setup.

[jamesbernatchez]

I don't have that chassis. But yes the servo mounts on the left side where the motor would be located in the stock setup.


Thats what I thought...just cant figure how..there are no holes for it in the chassis :confused:

[Quinton]

Man this r/c must not be too popular. Not a post in here for a month.

[balang_479]

The buggy is great i have one... but you gotta upgrade the electronics and one upgrade (like servo) is costing me 200 bucks for everything...
as the ESC and receiver are one unit... what a paine..


but im saving up for a
Mamba 6400kv kit
recivere
Hitec HS81MG
which will be good...

[t9dragon]

I actually have three of them, 2 are the Electric Mini Inferno and 1 is the Nitro Mini Inferno 09. They are a blast to drive, you can get almost all of the parts in aluminum.

Here are a few pics of one of my Infernos.

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k294/t9dragon/Mini%20Inferno/DSC00438.jpg

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k294/t9dragon/Mini%20Inferno/DSC00436.jpg

RC18B, Mini Inferno & Nitro Mini Inferno 09
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k294/t9dragon/Mini%20Inferno/DSC00432.jpg

RC18B and Mini Inferno
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k294/t9dragon/Mini%20Inferno/DSC00435.jpg

[jamesbernatchez]

Nice rides T9

I purchased that conversion like i said above. I bought a Mini inferno locally from somebody I race with for $150. It has Aluminum motor mount, oil shocks, hitech metal gear servo, tekin mini rage esc with Aon 4900 brushless motor, 8 cell 1400 batery pack, Integy alloy aluminum differential outdrives front and rear. Everything else is stock. The buggy has only been run once on the track. This buggy is mint. Also have the stock electronics. It also comes with a stock radio and associated mini receiver that does work correctly.

Not too shabby :)

[t9dragon]

Nice rides T9

I purchased that conversion like i said above. I bought a Mini inferno locally from somebody I race with for $150. It has Aluminum motor mount, oil shocks, hitech metal gear servo, tekin mini rage esc with Aon 4900 brushless motor, 8 cell 1400 batery pack, Integy alloy aluminum differential outdrives front and rear. Everything else is stock. The buggy has only been run once on the track. This buggy is mint. Also have the stock electronics. It also comes with a stock radio and associated mini receiver that does work correctly.

Not too shabby :)

Sounds like you got a screamin' deal....................

Thanks for the compliment...............

Hit me up on AIM....................

[a1hardwoodman]

i have the km concept carbon fiber set up and the servo is mounted with double sided sticky tap.but i fliped my motor around to the rear and put a 2200 lipo pack and aon 5800 brushless and mamba max speed contral.i installed the new metal diffs so i can't stip them out .These thing cane now do a back flip if i give it to much gas it is insain.i also sell these diffs on ebay.

[balang_479]

t9dragon your really a mini fan, all those Minis hanging up on your wall, i wish i could get mine running again but like i said i need 200 bucks in just electronics...

one problem ive noticed is that the car has an enourmouslty wide turning radius and its because the hubs wont physically go any further, how have you solved this? i thought about getting these Atomic hub kit to help it turn (as well as having a good servo)
http://www.unoadieci.com/fotoprodotti/AK55_big.jpg

also some parts are a bit sloppy, what upgrades have you done to firm things up?
thanks

[t9dragon]

t9dragon your really a mini fan, all those Minis hanging up on your wall, i wish i could get mine running again but like i said i need 200 bucks in just electronics...

one problem ive noticed is that the car has an enourmouslty wide turning radius and its because the hubs wont physically go any further, how have you solved this? i thought about getting these Atomic hub kit to help it turn (as well as having a good servo)
http://www.unoadieci.com/fotoprodotti/AK55_big.jpg

also some parts are a bit sloppy, what upgrades have you done to firm things up?
thanks

Hit me up on MSN instant messenger and we can chat............

MSN screen name is t9dragon

[a1hardwoodman]

this is my mini inferno st truggy with a aon 5800,monba max speed contol.3 cell 2200 lipo km-rc center diff,09 metel diff font and back,custom pan i made.speed around 70mph.

[StevePond]

I can tell by the tire wear that it goes pretty fast. ;)

[a1hardwoodman]

i only ran these tires 3 times and there gone does any one know where to get better tires i an a kyosho dealer but these tire don't last long.I seen some before that were more square and wider thats what i need.

[dickdastardly]

Hi all

loving the forum, been floating for a few weeks and learned a lot already.
BUT i still need to ask a few ??? and i know they been asked before, but i still cant work out from what i have read what is gone work.

I have put in atomic cups all round
3r steering block
3r rear hubs
3r Steering Assembly
sadly gpm c-hubs ( got atomic ti collar that dont fit the different from stock size holes ) getting 3r ones
Gpm ally motor mount
2x IB 1400 packs

I have ordered
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=004&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem=&item=140075298262&rd=1&rd=1
Mini Inferno ST Rear Blue Aluminum shock tower (item# MIFST06BU) $8.99 x 1 $8.99
Mini Inferno ST Front Blue Aluminum shock tower (item# MIFST05BU) $8.99 x 1 $8.99
Mini Inferno Half 8 Blue Aluminum Center Bulk 3racing (item# MIF039BU) $11.99 x 1 $11.99
Mini Inferno Half 8 Blue Rear Anti Roll Bar by 3racing (item# MIF017BU) $7.99 x 1 $7.99
New Blue aluminum 1/18th Mini body clips set of 10 (item# 1050TB Racers Edge) $3.99 x 1 $3.99
Mini Inferno Graphite Steering Servo Plate (item# MIF046WO) $6.99 x 1 $6.99
MIP Mini Inferno & ST Center Ball Diff Differential (item# 1653) $23.99 x 1 $23.99
Mini Inferno Half 8 Blue Front Anti Roll Bar 3racing (item# MIF016BU) $7.99 x 1 $7.99
Kyosho Mini Inferno ST MIP Swing Shafts CVDS kit 1 pair (item# 1656) $16.99 x 1 $16.99
Mini Inferno Half 8 White Rims Wheel & Tire Set (item# MIF051WI) $9.99 x 1 $9.99
Mini Inferno ST Complete Delrin Arm Set (item# MIFST07) $7.99 x 1 $7.99

AON T2415-4900 & Quark 33amp Pro-Car combo with deans ultra plugs
Gpm ally main shafts


what do you think? will this hold up?
this is my 1st EP car (my only other rc car is a serpent 710 so got a lot to learn about these) lol

so have I missed anything I will need to run this motor and have a strong drivetrain???

i put a rocket 400 and IB 1400 packs in so far and already stripped a 3racing blue derlin gear.( I think it was chassis flex or i did not line the pinion up straight)
what can i do to stop the chassis flexing.


Iam in london UK so if you Know any1 around the way let me know
Iam gonna be setting up a track(found the land) for me and a few m8s so if any1 wants to run on it holla back.

so wanna race these when i cant get to the track with me 710

cheers
oh yer if you got any set-up tips they would be greatly appreciated ...hate the bumb streer!!

[killaj]

mr. dastard... send me your email and i will send you complete pics of my setup. i am running a quark 33, align 430L motor, 14.8V 2100mah lipo battery with a graphite chassis conversion and all the alum i could find for it..

[a1hardwoodman]

Dickdastardly every thing sounds good but you realy need to put in the kyosho metal gears in the diffs or you will strip them out.I have them listed on ebay.You might want to get a lipo hump pack to get longer run time.

[dickdastardly]

thanks hardwood geuss you did not check the link in the post i already ordered them from you.he he have you shipped them yet????
how much longer do you get from lipo??? just a bit unsure of using them as this is my 1st EP car and they can be dodgy if not used and looked after right.
also i would have to move the motor and stuff???
cant you do lipo in saddle config?

cheers

[t9dragon]

The chassis flex is what caused the gear to strip. I have stripped 2 of those gears do to the chassis flexing from jumping and landing. I got an Eclipse carbon fiber chassis for it and no more chassis flex. :D

[a1hardwoodman]

Dickdastardly sent that last week you should get it this week.Thanks for buying from me post reply on how you like them i still have mine running strong.Took them apart the other day and there was no wear on them at all.

[dickdastardly]

Dickdastardly sent that last week you should get it this week.Thanks for buying from me post reply on how you like them i still have mine running strong.Took them apart the other day and there was no wear on them at all.

cool thanks man :D

yer i will do about how i like them(aslong as the dont strip i will love them :cool: )

what diff oil do you think i should use??
what run times are you getting compared to 8-cell pack with the lipos???

t9dragon thanks for confirming that. i thought it had to be!!
just spent a hole lot on this car so dont think i can afford the carbon chassis for a lit while :mad:

would these help?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=007&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem=&item=170068529674&rd=1&rd=1

not sure where they go. do they replace the stock chassis brace????

sorry 1 last question guys

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=007&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem=&item=170073276107&rd=1&rd=1

will that fit on a ST chassis or is there more i need to buy to get it to work???

i have seen peeps pics with them on the ST just need to know if thats all i need to mount it(oh and the spoiler) :cool:

cheers

[t9dragon]

Yes the first item will help with the rear part of the chassis. It goes on the chassis under the rear center drive shaft.

If you have instant messenger, we could chat about setups for the mini inferno.

[a1hardwoodman]

a lipo pack should almost double your run time.

[dickdastardly]

wow for real!!!!
i was looking at these Thunder Power 730 3s Li-poly (2) Pack Combo

http://www.b-p-p.com/proddetail.php?prod=a_TP730_3s_2packcombo

they are almost the same as my IB 1400 in ma so how can they last twice as long???
i would of thought that they would run out quicker as they output more volts.

still i know crap abot theses things so there you go.

i will do a bit more reading,
1 thing i have heard that puts me of using them is they are ment to very tempermental and can be really dangerous if not treated correctly..
what do you think on this as you use them?

cheers

[a1hardwoodman]

THE BIG THING WITH LIPO BATTERIES IS NOT TO OVER DISCHARGE OR YOU WILL KILL IT.i LEFT MY CAR ON AND IT DIED.wHEN YOU CHARE THEM ONLY DO A 1 TO 1 CHARGE EXAMPALE 1400 CHARGE AT 1.4 AMPS AND MAKE SURE YOUR SPEED CONTROL IS SET UP FOR LIPO.

[dickdastardly]

THE BIG THING WITH LIPO BATTERIES IS NOT TO OVER DISCHARGE OR YOU WILL KILL IT.i LEFT MY CAR ON AND IT DIED.wHEN YOU CHARE THEM ONLY DO A 1 TO 1 CHARGE EXAMPALE 1400 CHARGE AT 1.4 AMPS AND MAKE SURE YOUR SPEED CONTROL IS SET UP FOR LIPO.

oh ok thanks for the advice.

i ordered a Aon 4900 and quark 33a from bpp got a email today saying they were having probs getting them in.
so they offered to ship me a wraith right away and they will send me the Aon (free of charge) when they come in.

now thats great customer service!!!!

"sorry your gonna have to wait for your order, but hey have an equally good 1 to play with while you wait"

great stuff troy and bbp :D :cool:

i will see how these run with the packs i got and if need be get some lipos later.

iam running a rocket 400 an Ib 1400 8cell atm should i expect less or more run time with the brushless set-up?????????

[dickdastardly]

Hi just want some info from someone who has these or is good with batterys..
i normaly run nitro so not to clued up about batterys.

my question is whats the best settings for theses batterys ie what amps to charge with to get the fastest charge time without over killing the battery?

i was thinking to charge at 2.8 amps or 2c so i can get them charged in half hour. is this ok or am i killing the life of the battery.

i have done this once and they dont get to hot warm but not hot.

any advice would be great about any of the settings and options the ice has.
its all very complicated at the mo...and the ice has so many options. :confused:

is the normal charge setting the best the ice has like 4 diff charge methods.
is there any point using the others what are they for ???

sorry for being a noob about this i have search but not found a defenate answer..

thanks

[a1hardwoodman]

I have not used that charger but the batteries are a 1 to 1 charge 1.4 on the ones you have you can go higher but watch out for over heating.on another note has any one tried the mini lst tires and rims on the truggy just bought some today and thy look awsome.

[Skribble]

Anyone have the part #s for the 09 diffs to fit the Half8/MIST? I know I saw them somewhere -- Just forgot what forum.

And what do you guys think of a HSE/Xtreme/etc. chassis setup vs. the KMRC?

Just picked up a used MIST with the Tekin BL the other day. Haven't got a chance to run it yet because of a bent shock shaft. Once it gets fixed, hoping it's gonna replace my Vendetta and RC18T for racing.

[t9dragon]

IH227, IH226, IH207 Diff part numbers for the 09.

[Skribble]

Anyone have any BL motor recommendations for the Tekin ESC?

[solutionD]

i just wonder how to charge with this kind of battery plug...need a additional connector on charger?

[t9dragon]

What plug?

[solutionD]

4*1200A 2/3A.4.8V VS 3*AA2700.4.5V
which is more powerful?

[solutionD]

What plug?
the plug for 4 2/3Abattery pack

[maaloomi]

Hello,

I just got a used mini inferno with mamba esc and bl motor... on my first run i grinded the spur (everytime i hit the brakes it reversed... probebly the reason - i changed the settings on the esc after i relized)
Anyways, i noticed the rear wheels are almost locked (they spin together and at the same direction when i hand spin one of them), is this normal? I opened up the rear and noticed it was coverd with greese -the diff, is that how its supposed to be?

any solutions for this matter?

Thnks

[uaerc]

i just striped my brand new inferno as i was not happy with the speed it put up with the stk motor. so i intent to buy the wraith 7k quark 33 pro car. do i need to get a sp. motor mount plate or the stock one is fine ? anyone ?

[hajile97]

What is the best esc/motor combo for these little things? I just picked up one in a trade andI am thinking of keeping it and doing the whole BL treatment......

[mi6el]

Hello guys,i want to put a Mamba motor on my inferno.
Which is the best choice. I don't want the most powerful Mamba,because it will broke the diferential. I think so.
I have 3cells lipo battery 1100mah 20c.
Sorry but my english is not very good!