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PeterV
04-30-2005, 01:53 PM
OFNA says...<BR><BR>If you can acheive a larger displacement in the same size engine case, then why not? That's what we said.
This Italian manufactured engine is extreme high performance, incorporating all the state-of-the-art features necessary to win world championships. Mega-sized displacement at .27 in a specially constructed .21 crankcase with ABC piston and sleeve. The Picco .27 will fit in nearly every vehicle that uses a standard or pull-start 21 engine.
This engine will be replacing the Picco .26 <BR><BR>- ENGINE SPECIFICATIONS -
CLAIMED HP 3.1
RPM 34,000
CARB TYPE SLIDE
CRANK SG/Threaded
CONSTRUCTION ABC
ENGINE CASE SIZE .21
ENGINE BORE SIZE .27
TYPE REAR EXHAUST
PORTS 8 ports
DISPLACEMENT .27 c.i., 16.8 stroke
CRANKSHAFT Heavy Duty Crankshaft 14mm
CARBURETOR Composite, 8mm insert, changeable
PLUG TYPE Standard

OFNA/Picco .27 Outlaw
PART #51231 No Pullstart
OFNA/Picco .27 Outlaw
PART #51230 With Pullstart

timberwolf211
04-30-2005, 07:49 PM
My LHS has had one of these for about a month. I thought you guys got stuff before it came out?

C.J.OO
04-30-2005, 08:07 PM
A freind of mine (SocalBash) Has a twin titan with 2 of these .27's in it....
Needless to say Its an absolute MONSTER of a truck..

metalry101
04-30-2005, 11:20 PM
AWESOME engine. There really isn't another way to describe it. I've got one in my LST and it runs like an absolute champ. I've sold a bunch of them and every customer who's bought one has loved it. In my opinion, it's the best big block on the market. Awesome power everywhere, combined with easy starting and tuning, and a low price...it really doesn't get any better than that.

MacManInfi
05-01-2005, 01:34 AM
Awesome. I hope it's priced the same as the .26 tho. I friggin love that motor. :D

metalry101
05-01-2005, 02:35 AM
189.99 at my shop.

timberwolf211
05-01-2005, 08:29 AM
My LHS sells them for 184 pls tax. I would love to put one in my MGT but the funds are little low at the moment.

broncobill
05-01-2005, 08:48 AM
Tower wants $209, and they claim 2.8 hp, and only 31,000 rpm.

ragamuffin
05-02-2005, 09:30 AM
.27? Why didn't they just keep going to .30? Doesn't seem to be much of a step up from the old .26...

metalry101
05-02-2005, 12:06 PM
It is a difference though...and it does pull harder than the old .26, which is saying something, because that engine rocked too. It also allows them to keep costs down, because if memory serves correct, the only parts that are different between the old .26 and this engine are the piston and sleeve.

ragamuffin
05-02-2005, 03:42 PM
It is a difference though...and it does pull harder than the old .26, which is saying something, because that engine rocked too. It also allows them to keep costs down, because if memory serves correct, the only parts that are different between the old .26 and this engine are the piston and sleeve.

Ah, I see now. I wonder, then, if the .27 internals would fit in my .26 crankcase? Unless they changed the crank timing...

kitty
05-02-2005, 06:01 PM
Tower wants $209, and they claim 2.8 hp, and only 31,000 rpm.
Tower is known for mistakes/typos in descriptions, so I'd go with what Peter posted. I know a few guys with this powerplant in their Savages and they all talk about how much it rocks.

Does anyone know where to see any pics of the sleeve in this bad boy? Seeing that it's Italian made, I'm sure it's quite nice looking.

ps - good pun, C.J.OO ;)

ruchith
05-23-2005, 08:51 AM
Would this work in a 1/8 buggy like an inferno?

TitansGT4
05-23-2005, 10:15 PM
Tower wants $209, and they claim 2.8 hp, and only 31,000 rpm.

engine manufacturers are known for lying about claimed horsepower, so i give props to ofna for not exaggerating and actually saying something that would be closer to the truth

MAXXWRECKER
05-23-2005, 10:37 PM
The piston,rod and sleeve are different,everything else is the same and honestly at a quart of fuel thru my .27, i dont really see a major increase in power over my picco.26 ,dont get me wrong they rip but i was expecting more.

ruchith
05-24-2005, 01:44 AM
This is just one of those stepping stones along the path for ofna, there sure to have another ripper of an engine out someimte which will make these 2 look like dirt.

Toycar
05-24-2005, 03:32 AM
Would this work in a 1/8 buggy like an inferno?

A non-pullstart version will and a pullstart version with some spacing up the engine will. I ran a Wasp.26 for awhile in my K3 and it wasn't a good match. Too much torque over a small rpm band just spins the tires leading to no traction and so so acceleration with low top speed. Poor throttle response made cotrolling power output impossible. Run a buggy engine in a buggy and leave the big blocks for the trucks. Fuel consumption is way high so if you think you can beat those buggy.21 with a torque monster, no way.

RespirologyRC
05-24-2005, 01:05 PM
Toycar that is probably the smartest engine advice anyone could give!!!

synapse75
05-24-2005, 09:44 PM
Too much torque over a small rpm band just spins the tires leading to no traction and so so acceleration with low top speed. Poor throttle response made cotrolling power output impossible. Run a buggy engine in a buggy and leave the big blocks for the trucks. Fuel consumption is way high so if you think you can beat those buggy.21 with a torque monster, no way.

I have yet to see any oversized economy truck motor have any where near the torque or power of a hot racing motor, like a nova rossi or a CMB.

If you are getting lots of wheel spin, you may need thicker oil or grease in the center diff to even out power distribution, or better tires.

synapse75
05-24-2005, 09:46 PM
- ENGINE SPECIFICATIONS -
CLAIMED HP 3.1


it is probably closer to 1.3HP

ALJR
05-24-2005, 10:48 PM
- ENGINE SPECIFICATIONS -
CLAIMED HP 3.1


it is probably closer to 1.3HP

i belive the picco .26 was close to its advertised 2.7 hp (don't remember the exact dyno number off the top)..

so i would have to imagine the picco .27 would have at least the same power as the .26..

synapse75
05-24-2005, 10:58 PM
i belive the picco .26 was close to its advertised 2.7 hp (don't remember the exact dyno number off the top)..

so i would have to imagine the picco .27 would have at least the same power as the .26..

There is NO WAY a motor for less than 400bux puts out 3.1HP.
I find it extremely hard to believe that it would be over 2hp.

atm92484_3
05-25-2005, 01:10 AM
The Wasp .26 (same thing as the Ofna/Picco .26) was dynoed by RCCA at 2.98 hp. With the extra displacement, its doubtful that the .27 couldn't top the 3 hp mark on their set up.

Ball Racing
05-25-2005, 08:30 AM
Would it make 3 hp if I charged you 399.99 plus shipping????

aGeS
05-25-2005, 10:27 AM
if you can remember the O.S. V-Spec is the ONLY .21 closest to the 3HP range with the least amount of port, and that motor is under $300, so this i need to spend big bucks to get big HP is a URBAN LEGEND, buy what you can afford, and always before you can FAST you have to be able to go STRAIGHT for the fastness to work..

ALJR
05-25-2005, 01:37 PM
There is NO WAY a motor for less than 400bux puts out 3.1HP.
I find it extremely hard to believe that it would be over 2hp.

The Wasp .26 (same thing as the Ofna/Picco .26) was dynoed by RCCA at 2.98 hp. With the extra displacement, its doubtful that the .27 couldn't top the 3 hp mark on their set up.

there ya have it!

synapse75
05-28-2005, 12:04 AM
there ya have it!


RC Nitro Reviewed the X1 and dynoed the 26 at 1.02HP
SO YOU CAN KEEP IT

Why pay 400 for a rossi when you could get some run of the mil junker that puts out a fake 3hp

ALJR
05-28-2005, 12:37 AM
RC Nitro Reviewed the X1 and dynoed the 26 at 1.02HP
SO YOU CAN KEEP IT

Why pay 400 for a rossi when you could get some run of the mil junker that puts out a fake 3hp

Doesn't the X1 come with the Ofna FORCE .26 :rolleyes: Thought we were talking about the Ofna Picco .27 :eek:

Besides, you can't compare RC Nitro's dyno numbers to RCCA's dyno results (or even XRC's dyno results) as everybody uses different dyno techniques.. You can only compare RCCA's results to another RCCA's data...

So when was the last time one of the mags dyno'ed a Novarossi-based big-block?

Walter T Flower Jr
05-28-2005, 05:40 AM
The skeptics and naysayers are the ones who have not run one, they are the best HP deal hands down!