10 oz oil for power

[Burkey1000]

ok this 10 oz thing, we all know you get a slight increase in compression, but would you notice it on the lake, i dont think so, also what increase would you realy get, 1 maybe 2 psi, not worth it, drop the cyl on its ass compression goes from 145psi to 185 psi instant power and you would notice too. second running 10oz of oil, is the inside of ya pipe wet with oil, it should be dry carbon build up not wet, if its wet then the combustion isnt full, ie it cant burn it, therefore, if it aint burning it, it aint throwing that piston down any faster is it, a loss of power, the oil is just getting thrown out the pipe, next thing is the word power, power= speed to a degree but is only a very small part of it, why do you all want to go to 10oz, to get more speed i bet,funny word is SPEED, i bet i could come up with an idea for a gizmo, and sell it on e bay, and make money, just by using the word speed, now theres an idea, yet everyone forgets the easy way to get speed, look at f1 cars, bikes and boats, just think about it for a moment, its called power to weight ratio, have a look at all your boats, dual rudders big heavy drives, trim tabs, have you tried it without them, i bet not, if the hull is any good you should get it to run by adjusting the prop height, have any of you had the boat where its going on full throttle and its rocking from side to side, getting worse the quicker it goes, and i bet the first thing you do is fiddle with them, did you try taking them off, i bet it stops it, turn fins, 5 inch rails to hold everything in, a very heavy way of doing it, fiberglass hulls, very heavy, not that strong and not very ridged, big battery packs, big 1/4 inch servos, you can get standard size servos with the same if not more torque than 1/4, this is just a fraction of it,and lets not forget the mods on race engines that you buy isnt all that can be done to it, i doubt its the same mods the pros would use for themselves, why wont they sell them, because you buy one open it up and the secrets are there, thats why, if its more speed you all want, take a step back, look at your boat and dump all the heavy gear get a nice light hull epoxy are carbon, build it as light as you can, dont put anything in there that it doesnt need to run, try it without the turn fins and tabs, use a very light drive and it will blow all the others away, simple as, and as far as cost, work it out, all the money on oil every weekend, the cost of high octaine fuel, it will soon pay for itself and the future running costs will be cheaper, it wont use as much fuel, and everyone will wonder why its so dam quick, looking for speed by putting more oil in is like farting in the wind, it a wast of time no one will notice it, and neither will you, exept for your wallet. All you need is enough oil to do its job and no more,you hear the gossip, z260 doing 107mph, true yes, how much oil did they use, 8 oz, true yes, but what timmings is there engine, as high as 186,190, maybe more, almost to bursting point, nothing like what your supplied as your rtr race engine, if your going for speed records then yes because all of the above would already have been done, but i think its time people got back to the basics because thats what were all doiing wrong and thats where some of the biggest gains are, and thats what sorts the men out from the boys, the people who think and cover all the basics first, were forgetting the basics, and thats why the people who do it WIN. Enough said for one day i think, dont want to give any more away, dont mean to offend anyone, just trying to get people to sit back and think about what there aim is and how the best way to get there is, but for speed, if ya think 10oz and high octaine fuel is the way to go,and it was a simple as that, then we would all be world record holders. Im not saying more oil doesnt work, it will in the right instance but not for 99.9% of us on here.Come on DD you should know what im getting at, lets have some views on this.

[Watercadet]

You don't think the oil is supposed to be burned do you?? I couldn't read the rest of your blog but that part caught my eye....

[Doubledog]

Been sipping some juice...? :D (its late evening where he's at. LOL)

Burk, can you go back & edit the post with some periods ? Sure would make it easier to read. :)

[97TRAKIN]

You don't think the oil is supposed to be burned do you??

The good ones burn almost completly away if not completly thats why I use those.

[Burkey1000]

the engine will only retain the oil it can, what it cant retain or burn it will throw out the pipe, so if you say its not there to burn and it isnt staying in the engine, meaning it has the oil it needs whats it doing then, if your gonna reply atleast explain with an answer. And yes the good ones will burn most away.

[97TRAKIN]

I totaly agree with everything you said in your post. Especial the oil part. Soon there will be people telling you if you don't put 1qt of oil per gallon you are ruining your engine.

[countryrook]

i asked tony a warhouse and he said i should run 4oz of oil for every gallon no more its only a waste. ok maybe he dont know every thing but ill take his word for it. oh i have a ez25 :D

[Burkey1000]

i run 5 oz of very high quality oil and no more. If people want to run more then thats fine. What i find frustrating is people will think they will gain speed and thats not true, nothing that you would notice. There are many ways to go faster, and extra oil isnt one of them. I have worked with cars and bikes for almost 22 year, even tune 2 strokes bikes, and know a few who used to race carts and bikes, so i trust the people who do it for a living. Thanks guys for the support on the thread, and cheers for asking people who know, just dont want some newbie to the sport wasting money on oil and then wonder why it doesnt go faster, nice to see people are reading all the post and are stopping and thinking about things, and see the point i am putting across. Still waiting for WC to reply with his theory. :D

[97TRAKIN]

i asked tony a warhouse and he said i should run 4oz of oil for every gallon no more its only a waste. ok maybe he dont know every thing but ill take his word for it. oh i have a ez25 :D

I agree with Tony. His EZ 25 is a stock motor and shouldn't need more than the standard 4oz per gallon. I run 5oz per gallon now in my motor not because it is required but because the motor is NOT stock. :D
I tried 8oz like every one else suggested but oil was everywhere and the motor was a PITA to start when cold.

One day I'm going to blueprint my motor to find out everything that was done to it. ;)

[ejp]

Too much oil will make the engine run hotter. It coats everthing so that it can't exert heat. Oil will be a lub and coolent until you get too much, then the engine will run hotter.

[mjmsprt40]

I had to do some serious thinking to determine what kind of engines we're talking about because the original post didn't make that clear. OK, I see we're talking gasoline here and that being the case, I run 4 ounces or thereabouts (I'm not exactly precise but it's always at least 4 ounces) in my Gator's engine. So far, I can't complain about the performance and the engine does seem to like it. I've had the boat since '99 and never a moment of problems from that engine.

While we're on the subject of gasoline, I've run nothing but regular gas through it. Around here, that means 10% ethanol in the mix. Warehouse Hobbies didn't recommend that, but in the Chicago Metro Area 10% ethanol fuel is all that's available. It doesn't seem to have hurt anything so far.

Nitro engines seem to be a different animal altogether, I haven't heard of anybody running much less than 12% (18% seems to be standard) lubricant through those mills, and break-in will usually be a bit more than your standard running mix. The RPMs achieved are considerably higher though and I suppose that has something to do with it.

[Burkey1000]

Im glad to see that that you guys have posted on this, you find that guys who have had alot to do with engines, tend to sort the truths, from the sales myths. Just raised the issue incase any newbies were reading. Didnt want people puting loads of oil in thinking there boat would go alot faster, when there are better ways to do it, and save you money. Cheers guys, respect to you all. :)