NEW Team Orion Wasp .32

[StevePond]

http://www.rccaraction.com/pics/orion/wasp32.jpg

This is Team Orion’s all-new .32-sized monster truck engine. The engine is completely redesigned internally. According to Orion there are several patented technological breakthroughs in the design. This is just a prototype and we understand it to be the only one in the country. The ABC engine will come with either the shaft-starting system shown, or with a standard backplate for bump starting. The 3-port mill has a standard head, rubber-sealed ball bearings, and a larger crankcase, which is all we can disclose at this time. Stay tuned for more information.

For more information about this and other Team Orion products, visit the Team Orion (http://team-orion.com) website.

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[RespirologyRC]

I believe it also comes with a special crank shaftwas already disclosed by RCCaraction. It looks like the same case as the .28 Wasp and all the other copycats. A 3 port, HHmmm; I'm guessing that Fantom will be coming out with a .32 shortyly after the release of the .32 . I hope they opt to go with a better carb than the current one used on their .28.

[MTA4]

Toki engines are on a roll!

[fezzy]

Yes they are... Unfortunately...

[Kmot]

Toki? Toki make a .40 heli engine in a .32 case! Hmmmmm...........

[MAXXWRECKER]

The .28 sucked a** so i dont expect anything less with this one.TOKI junk.

[synapse75]

The .28 sucked a** so i dont expect anything less with this one.TOKI junk.

but its a complete redesing ;)

The prob with the oversized motors (if this is a bolt in big block) is that the sleeve is too thin.

[ronin8451]

Yeah, my Infinity .28 lasted a whole half gallon before no compression, so I had it squeezed and it has lasted a whole half gallon more ! :eek:
JUNK is all they are ! I have been racing for over 8 years and never had a motor go this fast.

[cool head]

1/2 gal? thats good for that engine! i know people that couldn't get it past breakin. at least this one comes with a standard head, so you won't need $40 in glow plugs every time you run it. i would invest in a pinch tool to keep it running after the paper thin sleave looses compression.

[ronin8451]

Pinch tool won't help ! I ran mine this weekend and after 4 tanks of re-break-in at 180 to 200 deg.running rich (with head covered on the ground) and three heats and a main never going over 210 deg. F it is back to no compression at basically a half gallon or less. They need to do like RB on its .28 and bore out the case and make the sleeve thicker ! This is what I get for thinking a cheap motor would do, it's Italian motors only from now on ! My Novarossi's and RB's still have a tight pop after 5 gallons and never flame out.

[NPlayer]

I have a toki .18 in my t-maxx and it hauls ass. There is nothing wrong with toki's. I beat people with .23+ sized engines. The price was right, $110, and I like it better than my sirio .18tx.

[Gary Guest]

The case, crank and bearings are not the same as the Wasp .28. Team Orion will release more details later.

Alot of people forget that they probably spent $200.00 or less for the Wasp .28 engine. I know some of the other engines mentioned here cost nearly double that.

[ronin8451]

Yeah, but think about it:
Toki .28 = $200 good for maybe 1 gallon = $200 per gallon
RB,Novarossi .28= $299 good for 5+ gallons = $59.80 per gallon

Now what do you think is a better buy ? I will never carry these again in my shop beacause all of them have not lasted !! This goes for the .21's also , so I don't really think it is the thickness of the sleeve, it's the materials used that are sub-par.

[metalry101]

I'm excited to see what this can do. It's been in development for quite some time now. With all this time to tweak it, I'm expecting it to be a solid product. Hopefully it doesn't disappoint.

One thing I don't like though...what's wrong with a pull start? Drill starts are a PITA. Pull starts may break occassionally, especially on these enormous motors with lotza pinch, but at least I don't have more crap to carry.

[RespirologyRC]

The way to keep your pullstarter working right; would be to loosen the plug while getting the engine started. This reults in two things, 1. decreased compression 2. because of the dec in compression you also get decrease in manual effort while pulling on the pullstarter. Then once it has fired up give it a moment and tighted your plug.
your done:)

[metalry101]

I know that, but these big blocks still have a helluva lotta pinch, and loosening the glow plug doesn't do a thing to reduce that. The only way to reduce that is to bust out the heat gun. No thanx.

Big blocks in general, but especially these "monster blocks" are extremely hard on one-way bearings and pull starts. If you use short quick pulls instead of a long pulls and don't keep pulling when it's flooded and crack the glow plug and have it tuned right and keep your ignitor battery fully charged then ya, they can last a long, long time, but even then they're still taking a lot of abuse. Not to mention the fact that the vehicles they're in take more abuse, and while lawndarting the truck probably doesn't hurt the pullstart, it most definately doesn't do it any good. Dirt on the other hand...that can hurt a pullstart...and you'll be hard pressed to find a class of r/c that regularly sees the kind of dirt, mud, dust, etc that your typical monster truck sees. If that gets down into a pullstart it's over.

[nitrohead5300]

Metalry101, I followed the pullstart technique that RespirologyRC outlined in his post, on a big block .46 and never did break a pullstart I have put 5 gallon thru my .46 before I finally wore out the piston and sleeve, I popped only, 1- onebearing during this time.

[Ball Racing]

Earlier the post of having the sleeve pinch and re pinched,
to make the bore small on the inside you are also reducing the outside diameter,
that leads to bad running from leaking ports around the inside of case...

[gigacrush]

i think its a nice looking motor. would be awsome in the gigacrusher with 2 of them but that will probly cost a solid 500 dollars buy the time the conversion is done . and for that price im better of bying a set of 4 stroke 40.

[synapse75]

i think its a nice looking motor. would be awsome in the gigacrusher with 2 of them but that will probly cost a solid 500 dollars buy the time the conversion is done . and for that price im better of bying a set of 4 stroke 40.

You'd be better off with one "real" motor. There is nothing high performance about a 4stroke airplane motor that runs on oil enriched plane fuel.

[Ball Racing]

oil enriched plane fuel. :confused: :confused:

[synapse75]

You'd be better off with one "real" motor. There is nothing high performance about a 4stroke airplane motor that runs on oil enriched plane fuel.

I just noticed there are "car" strokers out by OS. To me all the extra moving parts would be a huge downfall. At this basic level a 2stroke should be more efficient at making power anyways.

[synapse75]

oil enriched plane fuel. :confused: :confused:

15% nitro with 18% oil

[Chevy-SS]

Good thing this engine has drill start. That's the only way to go for these bigger engines. Pull-starts are great, if the engine is warmed up. Trying to start a cold engine, or one that has been doused with after-run oil, is much more difficult and this is where a drill start really shines.

The only good thing about a pull-start is that you don't have to carry a cordless drill around, but at least you save the skin on your knuckles!!

[LandSharkGT]

Ya know they really need to improve on the engines that are already out there and make them more durable and last longer, more reliable and most importantly more HP!!!!!!!

[metalry101]

I'll take a pull start. I don't care how often the string breaks or how little skin is left on my knuckles. I've got two hands. One for throttle, one for steering. None for carrying a heavy, bulky, PITA electric starter. Get the engine tuned right, have a fresh glow plug and a charged ignitor, prime the engine properly, and she'll fire right up 9 times out of 10. Mine do, and I'm not even a master tuner by any stretch of the imagination.

[rc411]

ya know, there IS a reason why this engine never made it to the market LOL