Does anybody race electric offroad in NC!!!!!

[scoob]

I'm starting to think I'm the only person who's into electric RC in this state! It's ALL ABOUT those darn Nitros in my area, EVERYWHERE!!! I may as well sell my stuff and find another hobby :( .

I HATE NITRO!! (no offense to those who like them :) ).

Maybe I should focus my efforts on building a brushless nitro beater and see if I can race with them. :)

[dbracin]

Have you tried Sandhills RC(Vass) or King RC(King) or Monkey Bottom(Lexington) or Charlotte RC Center? I know they race electric truck with nitro trucks in Charlotte. Where are you located?

[scoob]

I'm in Lincoln county, about 20 miles west of Charlotte. I'd be willing to drive up to 50 miles or so. Maybe more for a good track with good, friendly people. I just want to have fun and do a little racing, no big deal.

Thanks alot for your reply :)

[LEADFOOT]

check out carolinasrc.com for a comprehensive NC/SC track listing.

[theskunk]

im in the mountains (boone) and we're building a track right now, theres also one about 20 minutes toward asheville from here (spruce pine) that is racing next weekend.

[Craps]

I'm in Lincoln county, about 20 miles west of Charlotte. I'd be willing to drive up to 50 miles or so. Maybe more for a good track with good, friendly people. I just want to have fun and do a little racing, no big deal.

Thanks alot for your reply :)

I race electric trucks all the time around the Charlotte area.

Nitro Valley Raceway races on Sunday in Cherryville with electric 1/10th scale trucks racing there Sunday and you can go to CRCC on Wednesday nights to race there.

Go to www.carolinasrc.com for more info and direction to tracks there.

[Mr. Cash]

We are having a good turnout at the Big Perm Raceway in Vass, NC. We have had on average 14-16 Stock Electric trucks and a full main of stock buggies for every points race so far this year. Check out the track at http://bigpermraceway.tripod.com/.
Vass is located near the Southern Pines area just south of Sanford.

[Craps]

Scoob
Come on over to Nitro Valley in Cherryville, NC (Gaston Co) that almost in your backyard. There will be several of us electric truck racers there Sunday. Racing starts at 2pm with sign up closing at 1:30pm. Great track with a hobby shop and a concession stand for hot dogs and drinks too.

Some of us are racing at The Hobby Stop in Rock Hill, SC tonight with racing at 7pm and then we are racing at Overcash Raceway near Rockwell, NC on Saturday with racing starting at 5pm.

All the track info and directions are on www.carolinasrc.com

[scoob]

Thanks alot for the info guys.

Craps- I've been out to NVR a couple times but I though it was all Nitro. I'll try to make it out Sunday and look for you. Maybe I could learn a bit form you if you don't mind( I'm still a newbie for the most part). My name is Gary, I am a skiny guy about 5'8". I'm 28 but look younger.

I went out to CRCC Monday and ran my truck. I like the track a lot, but my driving needs work. There weer nothing but Nitro monster trucks there, I was the only electric lol.

I'm running an Associaeted T3 with Novak ss5800 and I'm still running 6 cell 3300 stick packs.

Anyway maybe I can learn something and kinda figure out how the races are run and what I'd need. Thanks.

[Craps]

I will definately be there at NVR Sunday with about 6 to 10 other Electric Pro Trucks. Just ask anybody where Craps is or ask for Tim Hepler is my real name. I will probably need to lend you an 8000 mah li-po to run the 20 minute main we run there.

CRCC (indoor track) has a real good crowd of Pro Trucks on Wednesday nights. They race at 7pm with sign up closing at 6:30 and you can call in your entry if you will arrive after 6:30. 704-598-1122. Usually they race a 12 minute main with everything on a fast track schedule to finish between 9 to 10 pm. There is usually more electrics than gas trucks in the Pro Truck Class that had around 18 entries last Wednesday. Great racing!

Look me up! I'll be glad to help out!
Tim

[nomac]

craps...did you sell all of your 8000 Li-Po's? heck, even a 6000 would be ok. :)

[Craps]

craps...did you sell all of your 8000 Li-Po's? heck, even a 6000 would be ok. :)

Gone!

CRCC has a real good deal on a TP8000-2S4P for around $135 for first time racers only that race at there track. They love the Pro Truck Class there and it is the biggest class that runs the gas and electric 1/10th scale stadium trucks together in one class. I even tried to get them to split them up since the electrics out number the gas, but they want them run together in a 12 minute main on Wednesday nights.

[scoob]

Craps- I'll try to make it out. I am working tonight, I work nightshift and that makes it kinda tough. I need to prep my truck if I get a chance. I try to get there around 1:00 or so.

[scoob]

That Li-po deal sounds good. I'm starting to seriously consider turning my truck into a "pro truck". :)

[scoob]

Mr. Cash...sorry I forgot to reply to you. That is a nice track ya'll have but a little too far away for me. Who knows though, I may make it out sometime. Thanks a lot though. :)

[Craps]

Pro Truck is a Great Class with a Great Bunch of Racers! Come on out! We will help you!

If you are going to be later than 1:30pm (at NVR Sunday) getting there call in your entry to 704-445-9565 or 704-530-4475.

See you at the track!
Tim

[Craps]

Good to met you today Gary (Scoob) and I hope you liked racing Pro Truck with us at NVR! 20 minutes is alot more FUN with an electric than 5 minutes.

[scoob]

Big thanks to Craps for helping me out today at NVR in my first ever RC race! I was slow but I guess that's to be expected. I had a great time though! I wouldn't have even made the race without craps help and it is much appreciated :). Next time I'll be better prepared and hopefully have my truck set up better. After what I saw today...I'm going LI-PO all the way!

[Craps]

Your welcome and once you go li-po, you will not want to race with nickel batteries again! Li-pos make everything real simple and stop the battery wars!

[Craps]

Scoob
Racing at CRCC on Wednesday night, Dirt Valley in Easley, SC on Saturday and NVR on Sunday.

Come on out and race with us. Also get ready for the big trophy race for the Electric Pro Trucks (Electric Only) at NVR Sunday July 17th with a 3' tall trophy for the winner and trophies for the first 5 places. $15 entry fee.

[craigp]

Scoob
Racing at CRCC on Wednesday night, Dirt Valley in Easley, SC on Saturday and NVR on Sunday.

Come on out and race with us. Also get ready for the big trophy race for the Electric Pro Trucks (Electric Only) at NVR Sunday July 17th with a 3' tall trophy for the winner and trophies for the first 5 places. $15 entry fee.

Hey Tim, thanks for the plug. Question, why isn't NVR posting their race results on carolinarsrc any more?

[SpaceCowboy]

Where can someone find more info to read about the Li-Po batteries??

[Craps]

Where can someone find more info to read about the Li-Po batteries??

The "Brushless" and the "Electric" forums have threads. Just do a search or start a thread and ask all the questions you want. You will get the answers, but you will also get negative answers from people with no experience with them relaying internet gossip. Trust me, they are not as dangerous as you are lead to believe from internet gossip and they are no more dangerous than nickel batteries.

Good luck and come race with us at NVR on Sunday July 17th for the BIG Electric Pro Truck Trophy race. Trophies for the 1st 5 positions with the 1st place trophy 3' tall and is only $15 entry fee.

See you at the track!

[nomac]

this electric pro truck race have 5 minute quals and 20 minute mains, correct?

[Craps]

this electric pro truck race have 5 minute quals and 20 minute mains, correct?

2 rounds of 5 minute heats and a 20 minute "A" main. The "B" main will probably be 5 minutes.

Come on out! There should be at least a full "A" main (11 will start in the "A") of these special trucks with a good sized "B" main!

See you at the track!

[nomac]

wish i could! sound great! but at the moment, i don't have the means to make 20 minute electric mains.

[scoob]

Craps I'm not gonna be able to make the pro truck race on the 17th, gotta work :mad:

I'm going to try out CRCC this Wed. though.

Isn't there another Pro truck race at NVR in August? I should make taht one.

[Craps]

Craps I'm not gonna be able to make the pro truck race on the 17th, gotta work :mad:

I'm going to try out CRCC this Wed. though.

Isn't there another Pro truck race at NVR in August? I should make taht one.

Another BIG TROPHY race for the Electric Pro Trucks on August 21st at NVR!

[scoob]

Excellent! I'll be there on the 21st.

I have done some extensive work on my truck since my ugly debut. I rebuilt all 4 shocks, rebiult the diff, replaced the top gear and shaft, replaced the rear axels and bearings, front and rear wheels, got some new tires and dogbones and a new slipper clutch. I've got some step-pins and bow-ties ready for the rear. Hopefully I can make a good showing next time. I'm going to try it out tomarrow at CRCC.

BTW...my truck has a lot more punch on the LI-PO than it does on the the NIHM cells. Is this normal? It's faster than 7-cells! If I hook up well it's wheely time...lol! I don't think I need a new motor now, at least not untill I learn to drive!

[Craps]

I don't think the li-po is better, it is the nickel batteries are probably bad or wore out. Common problem with nickel batteries. They do not have the lifetime li-pos do and the battery you bought from Dennis is over 1 year old. You would have gone through several nickel packs during that time along with the maintence headaches you have to do with nickel batteries.

Everybody does not realize that li-pos are the around same price per mah as good quality ni-mh batteries, have longer life span, weigh about 1/3rd (per mah) and equal size and weight li-pos will give about 2 1/2 times the run time that nickel batteries do. You don't have to discharge or zap them either or worry about trying to quess when the peak charge will finish right before you need them to race either. Just charge them up and store away till you need them.

Good luck on the hooking up part! I can't fiqure it out either, but it is fun trying to. Get some Proline Holeshot tires too for when the track tightens up or even starts to blue grove and that is the tire most everybody runs at CRCC.

See you at the track!

[SpaceCowboy]

Are the Li-Pos the same size as the Nicads?

[Craps]

Are the Li-Pos the same size as the Nicads?

Almost. The TP8000 will fit in the battery tray of a T-4, XXX-T or any stadium truck. Snug but tight fit. You may have to make a battery bar on top due to the wires are on top and make the packs a little taller than a 6 cell pack.

The PolyQuest 4400-2S is the full length of the tray (equal to 7 cells) but is alot thinner than the 6 cell pack that I put the pads on top of the battery to hold it down. This pack weighs 1/3rd of a 6 cell pack and has 4400 mahs of juice that cost around $92.

[Craps]

Wednesday night at CRCC for some indoor off road action. Sign in closes at 6:30 pm with driver's meeting and racing starting before 7 pm. Most Wednesday we are finished before 9:30 pm. Good competition and FUN racing for a $5 entry fee.

See ya'll at the track!

[John Tag]

Anybody there looking to run 5 min electric 1/10 truck stock or 19T, I am willing to run. It would be nice to run 5 min from home. The Li pos dont help me as I tend to run ROAR events and have prefer 5 min races.


Jtag@tmxpress.net

[Craps]

I have a stock truck too! Let me know if we can get at least 5 to have a class. I will have mine there Wednesday night.

[Craps]

John
I have talked to some others and looks like we maybe able to have stock truck tomorrow night, but we need your support.

[John Tag]

WOW that went faster than I thought. How about if we start next week. This is to short of notice for me as I am going away to Sandhills Off Road race this weekend. I will be there next week to race and may stop by tommorow but just to pick up a few things.

Anybody else looking to run stock truck that may need a new fresh motor you can e mail me, I will be talking to the shop owner tommorow to see if he will carry some of my motors. But for those looking I can give you a GREAT deal on Monster or P2K2 based tuned motors by myself at Express Motorsports.

See ya all next week.

Jtag@tmxpress.net
www.tmxpress.net

[nomac]

john...you need to watch craps. he's known for eigther getting the ball rolling or getting the fire started! LOL! yeah, next wednesday night would be better for me too. got two weddings this week-end. ( no racin). would be nice to do some ROAR type racing down there. but john, watch out for the back doubles....kinda hard to make it in stock, but in 19 turn....VEEEEERY NICE!!

[John Tag]

Why dont we do 19T instead of stock,either way is good for me..I have over 100 of each in stock :D

[Craps]

Let's stick to 27 turn and you can run the 19 turn in Pro Truck class and probably win it. Keep it simple!

John
How much are the tuned 27 turn motors?

Pete
Come on up and support the stock truck class. We need a real good showing to keep this class regular and if we can't get numbers, it's going to be Pro Truck as the only option.

[John Tag]

I can do $32 on stock motors..P2K2,Monster or Roar style.. Buy 2 and save $2. 19T are also $32.

[Craps]

You guys missed a great night of racing with the new stock class having an almost full "A" main and I had to get used to racing for 5 minutes again! I really don't like 5 minute mains, but some of you guys wanted it.

John
I may take some of your motors.

[scoob]

Craps, is there anywhere to get a comm cut? Do you still have a lathe? I'm upgrading to the T4 soon and I want to turn the T3 into a stock classer. I've never been a brushed motor guy, so that is my only concern. I know I can buy brushes, springs ect.

[Craps]

Craps, is there anywhere to get a comm cut? Do you still have a lathe? I'm upgrading to the T4 soon and I want to turn the T3 into a stock classer. I've never been a brushed motor guy, so that is my only concern. I know I can buy brushes, springs ect.

I don't know! Maybe John can help us out at the track? I know I will need it done someday again that I thought I would not need to do again.

[Craps]

Good News! I called CRCC about offering a comm cutting service and suppling the brushes for a fee. They are considering it and depending on the growth of the stock class that appears will happen. I like this option rather than buying all that equipment.

[John Tag]

OK for those who may want my help, I can true arms at the track as long as you tear down the motor $3, I sell brushes XXX $8, 767's $2, The F brush $2.25 also offer a zapping service for $3 per can. Hope this help those looking. I will be there this coming wed. as I am off to Sand Hills race this weekend.

[Craps]

Sounds good John!

You are making me appreciate my brushless system now. I would rather just swap motors.

[scoob]

Good News! I called CRCC about offering a comm cutting service and suppling the brushes for a fee. They are considering it and depending on the growth of the stock class that appears will happen. I like this option rather than buying all that equipment.

Good to hear. I'd rather not have to buy that stuff either. This way there can be sort of a novice or at least low cost class for those who can't afford Pro-Truck.

I just bought a Monster Horsepower stock motor for this pupose.

[teamhyperdrive]

So is wed the only day you race here?

[Craps]

So is wed the only day you race here?

They had a race Sunday that I missed, but that is because NVR did not race Sunday.

Pro Truck and Stock Truck this Wednesday again at CRCC and some us are racing Stock and Pro Truck at The Hobby Stop in Rock Hill, SC this Saturday night.

[teamhyperdrive]

Pete was telling me about this track and i've had a t4 for over a year and a half and never raced it.Was wanting to race an actual race with the same type class (like electric versus electric).Some tracks around here like to mix and match and when you're running an electric t4 against a t max with a .021......you get the picture, not to mention a broke truck :mad:

[Craps]

Pete was telling me about this track and i've had a t4 for over a year and a half and never raced it.Was wanting to race an actual race with the same type class (like electric versus electric).Some tracks around here like to mix and match and when you're running an electric t4 against a t max with a .021......you get the picture, not to mention a broke truck :mad:

CRCC has a Stock Truck and a Pro Truck class, The Pro Truck is mixed with gas trucks that they don't mind if we break them. Both are 2wd 1/10th scale classes.

Come on and join the FUN on Wednesday night. Sign in closes at 6:30pm with racing after driver's meeting before 7pm. They do run a fast track schedule so they do not run late, so have your stuff ready to race when you get there.

[Craps]

Sunday...CRCC had 8 Stock Trucks and 18 Pro Trucks along with MTs and 1/8th scales too.

Wednesday should be another big night for racing. Sign is closed at 6:30 pm with racing starting right after driver's meeting. $5 entry fee (gold membership discount is only $2 entry fee).

More info and race results at www.carolinasrc.com

[Craps]

Great crowd of electric trucks at CRCC last night.

14 Stock Electric Trucks and of the 15 Pro Trucks, 8 were electric.

Good turnout for a weeknight race!

[laso]

I'm starting to think I'm the only person who's into electric RC in this state! It's ALL ABOUT those darn Nitros in my area, EVERYWHERE!!! I may as well sell my stuff and find another hobby :( .

I HATE NITRO!! (no offense to those who like them :) ).

Maybe I should focus my efforts on building a brushless nitro beater and see if I can race with them. :)
:D Scoob you have PM. :D

[Craps]

A bunch of us stock truck and pro truck racers are going to the Hobby Stop in Rock Hill, SC today and tomorrow to NVR in Cherryville, NC to race.

See you there!

[scoob]

I'll be a NVR tomarrow Craps. See ya at the track.

[Craps]

Real high chance of rain today. Skipping NVR and going to CRCC instead. It is great to have the indoor option.

I think doors open at noon with sign closing at 1:30pm and racing after driver's meeting.

See you at CRCC today!

[nomac]

see ya there craps! brad hadn't contacted me (no surprise) , so i'm counting him out. my cusin's free so we'll ride down. P.S.....i'm cancelling my Li-Po program. don't see where it'll be worth the $$$ in the long run. i'm old-skool electric, so conventional batts are what i need to compete with. sry.

[Craps]

see ya there craps! brad hadn't contacted me (no surprise) , so i'm counting him out. my cusin's free so we'll ride down. P.S.....i'm cancelling my Li-Po program. don't see where it'll be worth the $$$ in the long run. i'm old-skool electric, so conventional batts are what i need to compete with. sry.

Sorry to hear that because you open all the RC mags and they are talking about brushless and li-pos being the future. I hope we do like other tracks have done and add the Novak 4300 brushless motor system to the stock class at CRCC. The 2 guys using them at the Hobby Stop caught my eye yesterday and I like the idea of not cutting comms and worrying about brushes. Add that to the virtually no maintence of li-pos making racing alot more appealling for the novice racers who will save alot of money in the long run!

Of course it is all about tires and driver, so brushless and li-pos should be no problem.

Longer runtimes and maintence free Stock class racing is here now!

[nomac]

craps...don't worry, their time will come. there's still just so many races that use conventional stuff. now granted...roar has JUST approved brushless to be run in their sanctioned races(modified). so things are moving along. but you can't rush it tho. you're slamming too much, too soon! not everyone can warm up to this kind of technology as fast as you did. give us old-skoolers a chance to "come to grips" with this new stuff. it's kinda hard to just dump what you've done for nearly twenty years. and just like the "kid" racers of CCRC, these things take time.
so don't get too offended if you get shrugged off by someone whos been in this a while..(say 8 years or so). they know what works and what HAS worked for then before....you know "tried and true". as i observed the pro-truck A-final tonite...one thing went thru my mind...i noticed that there was ONE gasser running after only a few minutes into the race! the electrics just kept on scootin along! i immediately thought twice about ending my li-po program. you guys just seem to run forever! and yes....i temped your truck when i pulled it from the track and was amazed!!! it was no hotter than a brushed motor after a short break-in@ low volts!!! simply incredible!

where-as with my modars......i burned the amature tag up on two of them........after only a 5 minute heat. :eek:

[Craps]

Pete
It is going to take all of us working together to make RC better for the future. There is room and place for everybody who races and the important thing is that we all have FUN doing it. I just want to try to get more people to race and stay racing. I know you see alot of newbies come and go in this with same old, buy a RTR electric and see the gas guys out there running and running and running on the track with them getting a gasser and quiting because they can't tune the thing or keep it running that are never seen at the track again.

The li-pos and brushless will hopefully change all that. If the cost will come down and it will, longer races and runtimes with no or low maintence motors will keep them at the track and in the sport for a very long time.

I think this is similar to what we talked about with the change from Ni-cd to Ni-mh, except this is 2 big steps at one time with BL motors and li-pos.

Keep up the good work!
Tim

PS. Don't take this wrong, but I strongly feel that Stock Truck should be an inexpensive starter class for new people to jump in and see if RC racing is for them. I don't think the experienced and that includes me should be in Stock Truck. The experienced ones intimidate the new drivers by lapping them every few laps and they feel like they are embarassed or in the way. Experienced racers should move up to a mod type class leaving Stock for the beginners. Sorry, this is just my opinion.

[John Tag]

I dont want to run with the kids to try and run them away, I just want a class to run. I race what I have and dont want to change anything as I can take my truck anywhere and be legal. What we need to do is run a Novice class and still keep stock truck as we do. Stock class is super fun and I think one fast class.

[nomac]

crap....there's absolutely no problem with what you post. besides, there's plenty of room for everyone in this hobby. we all have a broad range of "toys" to play with. my thing is that you're a bit too agressive with this "future" stuff. the future will get here when it does, don't rush it. any other racer would simply tell you to "just run 12th scale if you wanna race longer". running those little things with a 9 single in it with 9 other drivers in your race is almost mindblowing!
like i said before (had to stop cause i was rambling), you found your groove with LI-po/brushless.....let's not down other racers who aint got there yet. you have to understand....... you're telling scores of racers that their $400 turbo-thirty charger and their $1000 dyno set-up needs to immediately move over to this "other" technology. that's not gonna fly over-nite. so until it does....relax. :) . i've been lookin at the combinations you've been running and you've seen mine......now tell me........when was the last time we did NOT have fun while racing together? :p as far as the kids are conscerned...well, just go to thercspeedway.com and see just how the "kids" are doing now!!! eg: justin, wil, lil-ziggy. do you honetsly think they started out fast? i know i didn't. it took time and the racers at my old track knew that and they were patient...so we should be too.
i accually enjoy racing with the kids.....they learn so fast now. heck, that one blue truck with the white stripe down the center was improving in every heat! and THAT's what makes me happy. not lapping them and fussing at 'em evey other corner. speaking of corners.....it wouldn't hurt if they would be more ...uh...."energetic" when they marshal. :o
i'm done.i think.......

[Craps]

I keep hearing I can't race my li-po/BL truck everywhere, but I have not been to any track in the Carolinas that will not let me race it except for the Farm2 that will not let ANY ELECTRICS race there. In fact I am going to race my li-po/BL truck at the ROAR Region 3 race at Badlands Raceway in Myrtle Beach, SC! I am still looking for one of those tracks I can't race it at????

Li-pos and brushless are the future and the future is here!

20 minute mains without worrying about burning the motor up. No brushes to change! No Comms to cut! No batteries that you have to peak right up until the racetime. Warm up all you want to before the race. No pit stops! No Pit man required! No battery discharging or dead shorting! No buying multiple packs of batteries to race just one raceday. 1 Battery and 1 charger is all you need for all day!

[npresme]

I bet you want run Lipos at the regionals!!!! You might want to run them, but theyare not ROAR legal!

[burntslapup]

hmm all the pros to Li-Pos and Brushless sound good, but what about the cons?? Like the li-Pos BLOWING UP if not charged right or if the amp draw is to high on the battery! I've seen first hand that those batts cant take a high current draw when a local drag racer tried them in less then 1 second the car went from a rail to a 30 foot black mark. the IEDA and IMDRA have both banned the use of Li-Po's during any event becouse of this.
As far as the brushless motors, true you can run forever but show me one brushless motor that has broken the 2 second mark in 132ft, better yet show me one that has ran in the 2.5's in 132ft. Sorry they cant do it yet a brushed motors have been in the 1.5 second mark at 82mph in 132ft.
brushless maybe the way of the future but for right now I'll stick to the brushed motors that I understand and enjoy working with/on to find that extra edge that you seem to want to avoid.

[dbracin]

[QUOTE=Craps]In fact I am going to race my li-po/BL truck at the ROAR Region 3 race at Badlands Raceway in Myrtle Beach, SC! I am still looking for one of those tracks I can't race it at????



Taken from the Trinity Tech Talk Forum

quote " it is not a ROAR sanctioned class and it is being ran as an exhibition"

Travis Dupree
Team Losi/Team Paradigm/Skipgear/Winning Edge Designs

I don't know of any track owner/operator that would not let you race when you bring your whole class/field with you. :rolleyes:

[SpaceCowboy]

I don't think I could drive a car or truck for 20 minutes. I have enough problems racing for 5 ! ! :eek:

[Craps]

hmm all the pros to Li-Pos and Brushless sound good, but what about the cons?? Like the li-Pos BLOWING UP if not charged right or if the amp draw is to high on the battery! I've seen first hand that those batts cant take a high current draw when a local drag racer tried them in less then 1 second the car went from a rail to a 30 foot black mark. the IEDA and IMDRA have both banned the use of Li-Po's during any event becouse of this.
As far as the brushless motors, true you can run forever but show me one brushless motor that has broken the 2 second mark in 132ft, better yet show me one that has ran in the 2.5's in 132ft. Sorry they cant do it yet a brushed motors have been in the 1.5 second mark at 82mph in 132ft.
brushless maybe the way of the future but for right now I'll stick to the brushed motors that I understand and enjoy working with/on to find that extra edge that you seem to want to avoid.

Without providing details, this post is useless and is the kind of garbage that has alot of people misinformed about li-pos. He may have used a small mah capacity pack that could have been done with the samething using a reciever pack size using nickel batteries. I have seen several nickel battery reciever packs with gas guys pop at the race track and catch on fire. most of the time it is user error by not following the manufacturers instructions on handling and charging any battery including nickel batteries.

I have been using li-pos for almost 2 years now and have gotten over 20 racers to buy them in the Charlotte area with ZERO blow ups and fires to date! I spend alot of time making sure everybody is properly educated to the use of these great batteries!

As far as drag racing with brushless or even brushed motors, who cares? I don't!!!! Brush motors will have more torque than a brushless motor, but can that brushed motor race in a 20 minute race or even last over 2 to 3 hours of run time where the motor I am racing now has over 60 hours of run time and I have only replaced the bearings once in it. I lube the bearings about every weekend of racing and you can ask anybody, I practice alot and for a long time too!!!!

[Craps]

hmm all the pros to Li-Pos and Brushless sound good, but what about the cons?? Like the li-Pos BLOWING UP if not charged right or if the amp draw is to high on the battery! I've seen first hand that those batts cant take a high current draw when a local drag racer tried them in less then 1 second the car went from a rail to a 30 foot black mark. the IEDA and IMDRA have both banned the use of Li-Po's during any event becouse of this.
As far as the brushless motors, true you can run forever but show me one brushless motor that has broken the 2 second mark in 132ft, better yet show me one that has ran in the 2.5's in 132ft. Sorry they cant do it yet a brushed motors have been in the 1.5 second mark at 82mph in 132ft.
brushless maybe the way of the future but for right now I'll stick to the brushed motors that I understand and enjoy working with/on to find that extra edge that you seem to want to avoid.

Without providing details, this post is useless and is the kind of garbage that has alot of people misinformed about li-pos. He may have used a small mah capacity pack that could have been done with the samething using a reciever pack size using nickel batteries. I have seen several nickel battery reciever packs with gas guys pop at the race track and catch on fire. most of the time it is user error by not following the manufacturers instructions on handling and charging any battery including nickel batteries.

I have been using li-pos for almost 2 years now and have gotten over 20 racers to buy them in the Charlotte area with ZERO blow ups and fires to date! I spend alot of time making sure everybody is properly educated to the use of these great batteries!

As far as drag racing with brushless or even brushed motors, who cares? I don't!!!! Brush motors will have more instant torque than a brushless motor, but can that brushed motor race in a 20 minute race or even last over 2 to 3 hours of run time where the motor I am racing now has over 60 hours of run time and I have only replaced the bearings once in it. I lube the bearings about every weekend of racing and you can ask anybody, I practice alot and for a long time too!!!!

[nomac]

it's obvious that craps is very sensitive about this LI-po/brushless issue. we ALL know where we can go to run electric truck.....it shouldn't matter what type it is. CCRC is NOW known to run both conventional and "advanced". why don't we just meet there on a wed or sunday nite and duke it out there?
and if you wanna brawl stricktly buy ROAR rules...then there's a great track in sandhills, king, lexington, and rockhill that'll give you all the 5 minute racing you want!
now mind you ,the li-po guys aren't excluded...there just needs to be enough to make a class. but that's no different than ANYTHING else we run. so why the fuss? i enjoy racing with stevie, tag, craps, byron and ALL you guys. even with the heated on-line posts 'presme and i've had....i enjoy racing with him too.
you're good sports and dam feirce competitors when the time comes. :eek: . so i vote we squash it an enjoy the hobby. i know our radio's are tuned to a different frequency right now...but somewhere down the line we'll all be on the same page.......AND BOY IT'S GONNA BE A GOOD TIME THEN!!!!

FYI....steven, no spiking the punch ok? oh, and brown bags are illegal. :D

[burntslapup]

I havent spiked a thing nore do I plan to take a reply any lightly. Drag racing is what I do first, off-road, touring, oval, etc... all come second, and it's not becouse I can only drive in a straight line. The Li-po pack used was NOT a small mah capacity pack that could have been used for a reciever pack. In fact, the pack was made by a company out of Japan (I cant even say the name much less spell it right) that claimed they could produce a Li-po pack that could handle the amp draw of a 6 mag colbalt motor. needless to say again but it did NOT work. I never said it was do to the fact of owner error. However look around you'll find a plenty of post and even a artical in Xtreme RC that say if these packs are not charged/discharged right they can become bombs.

My motors dont have to last 1 min or 10000 hours they just have to proform for less then 2 seconds. and once again I'm a drag racer first and I'm going off of what I've seen in the real world. I've run brushless in my mini-t (FACT: mamba system used) and havent had a minutes trouble out of the thing, so I have delt with a brushless system in my racing history.

I realy dont give a damn what you think about my form of R/C,once again I'm going off of what I've seen in the real world and thought I post what had happened. what details would you like to know ask me. I'm not trying to say that you dont know what your talking about nor did I say your full of GARBAGE that you seem to think everyone that's not for brushless and Li-pos are. Crapps I'm just saying until the Li-po's and Brushless motors show me that they can out run my stuff I stick with Ni-mh and brushed motors.

I'll do as pete ask and squash the topic. Same as I did with the VHT thing in Durham, I've said my peace and that's all I wanted to do.

[Craps]

I thought the thread was "Does anybody race electric off road in NC!!!"?

Somehow it got to be about drag racing that has nothing to do about this thread???

Anyway it is good to know the oringinal author (Scoob) of this thread has since bought a li-po and is racing in the Pro Truck class that I assume he is very happy doing. I think he is like me and several others that have discovered li-pos that we don't want to never have to use nickel batteries and brushed motors again unless it is for some type of ROAR Stock class race that there is not much of that around here anyway!

Pro Truck! Brushless and Li-pos in a 20 minute main is the best racing for me!!!

[Craps]

Sunday August 21st at Nitro Valley Raceway (off road)

Big Trophy Race for the Electric Pro Trucks

2-5 minute qualifing rounds with a 20 minute main

10 qualified with 1 bump up from the "B" main to start 11 in the "A"

$15 Entry Fee

Racing starts at 2pm

1st place 3' tall trophy with trophies for the first 5 positions.

Bring them out and try to beat Dennis Allison, the last big trophy race winner.

See you at the track!

[burntslapup]

:rolleyes: never tryed to turn this forum into a drag racing forum, how many times must I say I'M TALKING FROM WHAT I'VE SEEN!!! cant help that it happened to be in a drag car. if the same happened in a touring or a pan car I would of said it, but i quess you say still say "I thought the thread was "Does anybody race electric off road in NC!!!"? Somehow it got to be about oval / touring racing that has nothing to do about this thread???" :eek:

[Craps]

Somehow this part was not read, so I will repeat it!

Anyway it is good to know the oringinal author (Scoob) of this thread has since bought a li-po and is racing in the Pro Truck class that I assume he is very happy doing. I think he is like me and several others that have discovered li-pos that we don't want to never have to use nickel batteries and brushed motors again unless it is for some type of ROAR Stock class race that there is not much of that around here anyway!

Pro Truck! Brushless and Li-pos in a 20 minute main is the best racing for me!!!

Not what part of several of us are happy with li-pos don't you understand? We actually use and have experience with li-pos too!

[Craps]

CRCC has another Wednesday night racing program this week!

Stock Truck (5 minute main)
Pro Truck (12 minute main)
Monster Truck (12 minute main)
1/8th Scale Buggy (12 minute main)
2-5 minute rounds of IFMAR qualifing.

$5 entry fee

Sign in cut off is 6:30pm with racing right after driver's meeting! Call in entry if running late 704-598-1122

See you at the track!

[burntslapup]

:rolleyes: what ever crapy, your right everyone else is garbage for running brushes and Ni-mh... Blah Blah Blah smoke up your craper, and all that other BS...

it's getting old trying to explain to you what I said since you seem to find other off topic subjects in a post. So you run your stuff and I'll run mine either way it's about having fun. :D

[Craps]

Thank you drag racer!

Now back to the topic!

[Craps]

Don't forget the Big Electric Pro Truck Trophy Race at Nitro Valley Raceway in Cherryville, NC this Sunday August 21st. Race starts at 2pm with a 3' tall trophy to the winner and trophies through 5th place.

20 minute main
2-5 minute qualifiers with 10 qualified and 1 bump up from the "B" main to fill the 11 truck main.

If we can get at least 6 Stock Trucks, NVR will have a stock truck class. So let us know if you can bring those 27 turn stock trucks out. I will have mine there along with Doug T, so 4 more and we can make a class.

[Craps]

Great racing today at NVR with the Pro Trucks as the biggest class there. Congrats to Dennis Allison on the win.

Thanks to John Piatt, Doug Tudor, Joe Ellis and several others for attending!

20 minute electric mains are here to stay!

[Craps]

CRCC just moved the driver's stand back after removing the carpet oval and should be back up and racing on a 50% larger track area by Friday 9/9/05 and back to the regular Wednesday night racing by 9/14/05.

[nomac]

craps...you gonna be there this friday? i'm thinking of going down and staying overnite, then following an early-bird to NVR saturday. lemme know okay? oh, yeah...i'd like to take up your battery offer this week-end too. wanna try and enter mod truck with you guys. (that is...if i can squeeze two classes together)

[Craps]

craps...you gonna be there this friday? i'm thinking of going down and staying overnite, then following an early-bird to NVR saturday. lemme know okay? oh, yeah...i'd like to take up your battery offer this week-end too. wanna try and enter mod truck with you guys. (that is...if i can squeeze two classes together)

I will not be at CRCC this Friday because I will practicing at NVR for the points race this Saturday at NVR. I plan on racing at CRCC the following Wednesday night 9/14/05.

Just let me know at NVR. I have a battery for you.

[nomac]

thanx bud. i'm doing my final shopping now. gotta get me a pair of bow-ties and a stock motor and i'll be all set!

[Craps]

I got stock motors too. I will not be racing stock very much and you are welcome to get one of those motors I have.

[nomac]

ohhhhhhh shucks!!!!! it's on!!! thanks a ton!!!!

[Craps]

Lots of racing in the Charlotte Area this weekend with Practice on Friday at NVR for the Carolina Point Series on Saturday with around 100 of the best off road racers in the Carolinas and then on Friday night, CRCC is having the first race on the newly expanded track. I think I will practice at NVR Friday and checkout early to go to CRCC in time to race on the new layout. Then early the next mourning to NVR for the points race.

CRCC has alot of excitement in the air with the huge track expansion since they got rid of the oval and made it all off road! A must see for one of the largest if not the largest indoor off road track in the US on a permanent basis!

[nomac]

craps....i'm out of the points race....can't make it. too much on my plate right now. other obligations have taken me out of competitive racing. you guys have fun. maybe i'll catch ya at monkeybottom ( or perhaps NVR) but the tourer didn't sale so that extra $$$$ has gone bye-bye. :(

[Craps]

craps....i'm out of the points race....can't make it. too much on my plate right now. other obligations have taken me out of competitive racing. you guys have fun. maybe i'll catch ya at monkeybottom ( or perhaps NVR) but the tourer didn't sale so that extra $$$$ has gone bye-bye. :(

Sorry you can't make it and I'll see you at Monkey Bottom or CRCC!

[Craps]

The Friday race at CRCC has been cancelled or moved to Sunday 9/11/05. Racing at 2pm. Check out the changes of this largely expanded indoor track!

[nomac]

thanks bud! if i do make it....i'll have kids. (back to being Mr. Mom)

[burntslapup]

Pete which car you trying to get rid of??

[Craps]

CRCC has postponed the Sunday race till next Wednesday 9/14/05 to honor the Carolina's Point Series Race at NVR this weekend.

[NCSpeedRacer]

You guys are so funny with all this bickering. If I was wanting to run offroad it certainly wouldn't be with you guys. (pete excluded). You know these forums are there for the world to see. Maybe y'all should consider that when you appear to be concerned about drawing in new racers......

Steven - watch out dude - you are off topic again....well for that matter so am I. oh well.

[burntslapup]

Oops

[nomac]

oops what?!?/...steev-ee. the car is a losi grafite. the same one i ran in Ga. a year or so ago. the thing was an absolute jet in k'ville. didn't run it much in stock tho...it's been run only in 19 turn or below.