airbrush?

[masterblaster17]

What is the best double action airbrush for a beginner to use price doesent matter just wonder what you guys use.

[Piggy89373]

The can o' worms has been opened. :D

Hands down, the best airbrush you'll find is the Iwata. They put out a fantastic product and you definitely get what you pay for and a little extra. Check on ebay or shop on DixieArt.com. I wouldn't suggest them for new painters, simply because of their price. The HP-C and HP-CS seem to be the work horses because of their ability to spray a fine line followed by a large spray with no interchange of parts.

Paasche's VL line of airbrushes are great for the beginner to the advanced user. Their versatility through interchange of parts is great. There's quite a few phenomenal painters out there who swear by the Paasche. It's considered one of the best bangs for your buck. From what I hear, it's tedious to clean, but still a good brush. Fine lines to large spray patterns can be achieved through interchange of parts.

Badger still produces some good brushes. I wouldn't pick one up and immediately expect to shoot intricate murals on the Sistine Chapel, but they're decent brushes. I started off with the 155 Anthem. I still use it from time to time for wide area coverage and to spray nail polishes on fishing lures. It's a reliable brush with a good price, but a bit of a pain for doing fine detail stuff.

If you're looking to break into a new addiction of painting by Airbrush, read up on several models. Check out Airbrush Technique.com (http://www.airbrushtechnique.com) for how to tips and tricks as well as some reviews. Make an educated decision and stick with it, then show us the results. :D

[masterblaster17]

I like how you put it as can "o" worms, you can already tell i am gonna be addicted. I love to paint with spray cans and am pretty good but i want to do some detailed work. like you saw in my other post ive been gone for awahile so there are a few new thing's i haven't seen before. as far as it goes price doesent matter i think i will look into the iwatas.

piggy once again thanks for the help

Matt

[masterblaster17]

alright i did a little research and this is what i am lookin

http://www.dixieart.com/HP_C.jpg

http://www.dixieart.com/silver_hardware.jpg or

http://www.dixieart.com/sprintjet1.jpg

tell me what you think.

[cnk]

I just picked up an Iwata HP-C Plus and absolutely love it. The quality and performance is much better then the Aztek unit I've been using.

[Piggy89373]

The HP-C is a great choice. Compressors will depend on where you'll be spraying and how much noise you can tolerate. If you don't have to worry about neighbors or noise, you have a greater selection of compressors. I'd avoid most of the hobby compressors because of the pulsing action of the diaphram. Instead, take a trip down to Sears or a local Harbor Freight and look into a larger air compressor. Usually, a 2.5 gallon compressor will handle all your brushing needs and give you more hardware to find uses for around the house. After that, a good moisture trap and you're set.

Do youself a favor and use the search button to look through the threads on compressors and moisture traps. It'll give you a lot of instant feedback on what you need and how much you intend to spend. Usually, you'll find links or places to shop and particular brands to buy. You'll see the pro's and cons to different compressors on the market to help you make an educated decision on what to get.

[Legend_Car]

iwata is by far the best i got a paasche vl tho it works great

[masterblaster17]

i think the hp-c is the one im gonna get and it just so happens that we frequent harbor freight so i will go pick up a compressor.

[Nutter]

I've got both a Paasche VL and an Iwata HP-C Hiline (the fancy version of the HP-C), and the HP-C is far, far nicer. For me it was "Buy Paasche, buy twice" - if I'd just got the HP-C to begin with, I wouldn't have had to buy a second airbrush. It is nice to have the two however, as the Paasche VL is better for covering large areas and the HP-C Hiline is a fine detail brush (If I didn't have the VL, I'd have got the HP-C not HP-CH).

I'm not a great painter, and really not that experienced.. so take that with a grain of salt. ;)

[Piggy89373]

Blaster, since you're heading off to Harbor Freight, you might want to pick up a moisture trap or two from them. They usually run about 7 bucks or so, but are well worth the money and effort. Look in the airtools section for that and also the quick change connects. From the way you're jumping into this, you'll probably wind up with another airbrush. With the quick connects, it's easy to switch brushes.

If you run nitro and have a starter box with a 12V battery, drop the 7 bucks for a 12V float charger from them. Another great investment.

[snifnfumes]

You may also look into the Richpen 213, very nice brush.
Sprays as well as my Iwata HP-C and not as expensive to buy or replace parts.
Another would be the Peak C-5.

[SpamCake]

Ask 10 people, you'll get 12 answers :)

Here's mine:

For beginners, I recommend the Vega 2000 brush. It's inexpensive, mechanically simple, and has significant "vocal range". More capable, even, than several other brushes.

For a developed skill set, the Iwata Eclipse (HP-BCS) is the way to go. It's only slightly more mechanically sophisticated than the Vega 2000, and its vocal range is significantly wider, which is even more amazing when you consider that it runs only one needle/nozzle size.

In both cases, they are vacuum feed. Some people decide that a gravity feed is the way to go... for illustration work on paper or card this is, or can be, the case. On the inside of an R/C shell though, the gravity cup just gets in the way, and limits the available 'angles of attack' for the brush. Even if you go with a smaller cup it still gets in the way, and you have the added hassle of a diminished colour capacity. A vacuum feed brush is so much the better choice.

Such is my opinion, your mileage may vary.

Cheers,
SpamCake

[Piggy89373]

Spam, good to see you post on here again...was beginning to wonder if we had lost ya.

Sorry to hijack the thread.

[SpamCake]

Naw, I'm here, just been lurking.

I would've liked to have put up something for the 'Characters' Special Competition, for example, but it just wasn't happening. Sometimes it's all about timing. Ah well.

Back to our regularly scheduled thread.

:)

[LEADFOOT]

how do you figure a paint cup gets in the way, but a siphon feed bottle doesn't?

FWIW, I like the gravity feed a lot better for control and cleanup. Also, I can paint with a single drop of paint...do that with a bottle.