View Full Version : Concour d'Elegance - August 2005
Piggy89373
08-03-2005, 12:29 PM
The Concour d'Elegance competition will be open for entries for the month of August and will close at Midnight on Wednesday August 31st EST.
Restrictions: Concourse Bodies
The Concour d' Elegance, "A show of excellence," is where the highly detailed cars compete. Paint is only a part of the contest, the rest lies in the details. The more detail a car shows, the better it will score. Bodies only showing off paint are permitted, however, they will not score as well as a detailed body.
This month, any body may be entered in this competition by any member of RCZone. Each body will be judged based on 3 criteria:
1) Detail: How much detail is on the Car? Is it a Proline body with no effort to create scale detail beyond the paint scheme? Is it a Tamiya body with mirrors and all the usual Tamiya trimmings (yes a Tamiya body with nothing but what came in the box will score better than a Proline with nothing more than what came in the bag because the Tamiya body simply has more detail!). Points are given for the scale realism of the paint scheme and for the added detail (exhaust pipe, wing, mirrors, windshield wipers, intercooler, mesh grill, realistic LED’s for lights, brake calipers, do the wheels look good with the body, interior, engine bay, opening doors, opened windows, a driver, etc).
2) Design: Exactly like the best paint competition. How well does the design fit/flow on the body? Is it visually appealing? How are the color choices? How well do the details fit? Originality does NOT count.
3) Execution: Exactly like the best paint competition. Regardless of how complex or difficult it is, how well is it executed? Are there paint bleeds? Are the lines straight (or correctly curved)? Are their obvious mistakes? Finger prints? How well executed are the fades and other basic painting techniques? etc. Also Scale of the accessories should be the same as the body. A 1/10 scale body with 1/24 scale mirrors and wipers just won’t score as well.
I want to point out that difficulty is NOT being judged. The detail and realism achieved is enough of a judge of the difficulty, time and effort put into a body.
The photo and background will not be judged but a clean, well lit photo that clearly shows the body is needed. To often there are muddy, poorly lit pictures that limit the cars chances of winning. Please limit your entries to 3 photos per car. Keep in mind that a better picture will attract more attention for the People Choice.
RULES for Concour d’Elegance competition:
1) Any Car may be submitted to the competition (Truck, buggy, touring car, etc).
2) Any Car submitted may NOT appear in another competition.
3) Photo editing the pictures (other than cropping and adjusting brightness/contrast) is highly looked down upon and may result in disqualification.
4) Anyone may enter a body (professional painters and Modelers are welcome!)
5) Please refrain from insulting bodies in anyway.
6) Up to 2 entries per person.
7) Cars should be built within the last 6 months.
8) Cars must replicate a full scale vehicle either existing or one that could be built and driven.
9) Have fun.
Each submission must include the following:
Body and chassis manufacturer and size.
Paint used. Details built.
Masks used (hand or precut)
And of course, a car.
Rules for the Judge - You will have to judge within 7 days of the end of the contest. If you are unable to do so, please contact Piggy89373 via PM within 24 hours of the end of the contest.
This month, Leadfoot will judge the competition. If he cannot perform his duties, I will select a replacement judge.
Viewers of this competition are encouraged to keep their comments to a minimum. Negative, derogatory, or inflammatory comments will not be tolerated. If the aforementioned comments are made by a contestant, their entry will be disqualified. Additionally, they will not be permited to enter the contests for a period not to exceed three months.
Have fun and get to building!
RespirologyRC
08-04-2005, 11:48 PM
Well I'll gladly be the first :)
RespirologyRC
08-04-2005, 11:56 PM
I always do 1/18th scale and I know a lot of you are getting tired of seeing my Mini H2 bodies so this month I have a couple of smoking MT bodies.
This is the first one! I do a lot of racing and all my bodies that i use to race with are just one color designs. But this time I decided to do something a little special for myself. this is a GS Storm sut body
painted with faskolor everything and spaz stix chrome
Unfortunately my camera makes it look like I did a messy job but all those highlighted areas are fades in the paint to reveal black lightning. In person the pink highlights aren't as noticable as they are on the screen. Oh well kill me:)
RespirologyRC
08-04-2005, 11:57 PM
I'll post a bunch of pics on a different thread but this body was just finished so there are no stickers on it yet
LEADFOOT
08-05-2005, 06:07 AM
reminder...the restriction on this month's contest is: concourse bodies only
RespirologyRC
08-05-2005, 07:58 AM
leadfoot: reminder...the restriction on this month's contest is: concourse bodies only
I guess it's a good thing that I stated above :body was just finished so there are no stickers on it yet-----hence there will be stickers on it shortly so how do you like them apples!
RC10ikb
08-05-2005, 12:12 PM
Here's my latest creation:
HPI Chevy Silverado Body
Hand-masked 3-color paint job using Tamiya spray paints
Modified RC-10 chassis
RC10ikb
08-05-2005, 12:14 PM
Another shot of my Silverado truck
HPI Chevy Silverado Body
Hand-masked 3-color paint job using Tamiya spray paints
Modified RC-10 chassis
FESTER2004
08-05-2005, 03:11 PM
the silverado looks mint! it has that "old school" flare to it! preety cool!
LEADFOOT
08-05-2005, 06:57 PM
...
Restrictions: Concourse Bodies
The Concour d' Elegance, "A show of excellence," is where the highly detailed cars compete. Paint is only a part of the contest, the rest lies in the details. The more detail a car shows, the better it will score. Bodies only showing off paint are permitted, however, they will not score as well as a detailed body.
This month, any body may be entered in this competition by any member of RCZone. Each body will be judged based on 3 criteria:
1) Detail: How much detail is on the Car? Is it a Proline body with no effort to create scale detail beyond the paint scheme? Is it a Tamiya body with mirrors and all the usual Tamiya trimmings (yes a Tamiya body with nothing but what came in the box will score better than a Proline with nothing more than what came in the bag because the Tamiya body simply has more detail!). Points are given for the scale realism of the paint scheme and for the added detail (exhaust pipe, wing, mirrors, windshield wipers, intercooler, mesh grill, realistic LED’s for lights, brake calipers, do the wheels look good with the body, interior, engine bay, opening doors, opened windows, a driver, etc).
2) Design: Exactly like the best paint competition. How well does the design fit/flow on the body? Is it visually appealing? How are the color choices? How well do the details fit? Originality does NOT count.
3) Execution: Exactly like the best paint competition. Regardless of how complex or difficult it is, how well is it executed? Are there paint bleeds? Are the lines straight (or correctly curved)? Are their obvious mistakes? Finger prints? How well executed are the fades and other basic painting techniques? etc. Also Scale of the accessories should be the same as the body. A 1/10 scale body with 1/24 scale mirrors and wipers just won’t score as well.
I want to point out that difficulty is NOT being judged. The detail and realism achieved is enough of a judge of the difficulty, time and effort put into a body.
The photo and background will not be judged but a clean, well lit photo that clearly shows the body is needed. To often there are muddy, poorly lit pictures that limit the cars chances of winning. Please limit your entries to 3 photos per car. Keep in mind that a better picture will attract more attention for the People Choice.
RULES for Concour d’Elegance competition:
1) Any Car may be submitted to the competition (Truck, buggy, touring car, etc).
2) Any Car submitted may NOT appear in another competition.
3) Photo editing the pictures (other than cropping and adjusting brightness/contrast) is highly looked down upon and may result in disqualification.
4) Anyone may enter a body (professional painters and Modelers are welcome!)
5) Please refrain from insulting bodies in anyway.
6) Up to 2 entries per person.
7) Cars should be built within the last 6 months.
8) Cars must replicate a full scale vehicle either existing or one that could be built and driven.
9) Have fun.
Sometimes we see "Best paint competition" and skip past all of the rules. I encourage everybody to read and adhere to them.
Here are examples of well executed Concourse-type bodies...
http://www.radiocontrolzone.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=34242&stc=1
http://pages.infinit.net/drjre/1.jpg
RespirologyRC
08-06-2005, 03:02 AM
What-EVER!
I'll post anothe just for shites and giggles--Honk honk
LF your lucky--because if I lived near you I might turn your little car in a stain on the bottom of my chassis :eek: :D --and make you my bizatch!
PS:last time i checked Traxxas built and runs a full size T-maxx1 So is it impossible to assume that they would never paint their Monster Truck T-maxx like my "Elegant" lid? LF why don't you think about this instead of being a furom Butthead. Now take foot out of mouth and suture it ;)
LEADFOOT
08-06-2005, 07:56 AM
--because if I lived near you I might turn your little car in a stain on the bottom of my chassis :eek: :D --and make you my bizatch!
...Now take foot out of mouth and suture it ;)
Resp,
All I am doing is trying to help out Piggy with the execution of a contest. I merely restated the rules with some emphasis on things you may want to consider. Remember, if your body is in one competition it can not be entered into another. I truly believe your entry in this contest will have a hard time competing with some of the other entries and will serve you better in an open or other contest.
I was being completely rational and professional then you have to go and be....well, you had to go and be "you"...
FESTER2004
08-06-2005, 12:21 PM
OK KIDS LETS PLay NICE IN THE SANDBOX! This contest is a tough one n everyone is probally not use to this type of entry!
RESP-u did a awesome job on the clown truck n as much as i hate to say it, save it for next months contest,its a open contest!thats what i am doing.
this contest for fun. lets all get along!
TRI-TURBO
08-06-2005, 07:08 PM
Here is my car im shure some of you have seen it already
Its a Tamiya 2004 Raybrig NSX
Used Tamiya Matalic red and Black
The racing seat is just a cell phone holder
and although you can't really see it to well, the Carbonfiber on the back is just Vinyl
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a206/edguna1/NSxbackyardsmall.jpg
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a206/edguna1/nsx3.jpg
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a206/edguna1/sig.jpg
and heres another pic with a few other Tamiya NSX's
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a206/edguna1/NSXcrew.jpg
supernitro_guy1
08-06-2005, 11:36 PM
Thats a clean NSX!
nice pics guys! dayum that nsx is clllleeaaan! looks real! gj!
Piggy89373
08-07-2005, 11:48 AM
Now THAT is a concourse body!! Awesome work, Tri!!
Resp, Leadfoot hasn't tried to steer you wrong the whole time you've been on the boards. I'm right there with him with this. Regardless of how much paint you've put down on the clown body, a work like Tri will beat you every time because of the added detail to the body. Tri entered a concourse body, you entered a best paint body. For what it's worth, I would withdraw the clown body and hold on till next month for the open paint.
Fester said it best in one phrase: This contest is for fun. Let's keep it fun, so we can all enjoy it.
Lastly, Resp, you do realize that Leadfoot is this month's judge, don't you? Don't argue with the judge...it doesn't help your score. :D :D :D
LEADFOOT
08-07-2005, 01:25 PM
I agree, nice NSX! (Isn't the seat on the wrong side???) ;)
I don't, however, want to discourage offroad people from entering their cars. The RC10 entry is very nice, too. I love the lst pic of it. A baja style look out in the desert. The chassis is very clean, too.
(Bonus points for offroad :D )
Legend_Car
08-07-2005, 08:48 PM
the nsx is nice but the seat is probably on the rite side because lots of foriegn cars drive were the passenger sits
LEADFOOT
08-07-2005, 08:58 PM
the driver sits in the passenger's lap?
Legend_Car
08-07-2005, 10:43 PM
ya leadfoot the driver sits in the passengers lap. have you seen 2 fast 2 furious? probably not but anyways there is a skyline which is an imported car and the driver drives were the passenger sits in normal cars. and the passenger would sit were the driver does. WOW
LEADFOOT
08-07-2005, 11:35 PM
so is the driver a passenger?
Legend_Car
08-07-2005, 11:42 PM
Wow this is like teaching a first grader geometry does anyone else see what im saying the steering wheel and gas pedel are on the right side of the car and the passenger seat is on the left side of the car its switched. a lot of foreign cars are like this
FESTER2004
08-07-2005, 11:48 PM
yup, the skyline in 2 fast 2 furious was like this--------they call ir right hand drive
legend car u are correct!
Legend_Car
08-07-2005, 11:48 PM
wow thanks fester finally someone who understands.
FESTER2004
08-07-2005, 11:49 PM
i think the mail truck is the only right hand driver automobile found on US soil.
Legend_Car
08-08-2005, 12:15 AM
ya i think your right unless someone imported one which nowadys all these people have the import tuners and i bet you could find one
LEADFOOT
08-08-2005, 12:18 AM
who's on first?
Legend_Car
08-08-2005, 12:23 AM
whats on second?
cuchytil
08-08-2005, 08:24 AM
i'm on third
C0NTENDER
08-08-2005, 09:12 AM
That NSX is really nice. I like the right side driver position. Ok, it's been almost two years since I have done a show body, so I think it's about time for me to do one again. I'm going to try to enter something within the next couple of weeks.
Legend_Car
08-08-2005, 11:13 AM
can you do a full interior of a car? good luck
FESTER2004
08-08-2005, 12:25 PM
hey about 2 summers at a local 7-11,this younger guy had a right hand drive old mini cooper.it was gold in color.it was like all orginal.i was talking to him about it n he said he had it imported from overseas n it was major $$$$$ to do it.but he loved it.
also too i seen a mid 80's bmw right drive when i went to a dr's appt once.the guy was from england.he too had it imported from overseas.
my friend was in the army n had his 80's vette shipped to him overseas to germany n he winded up totaling it out.he said there was nothing left to it n he doent know how he walked away from it.but thank god!
C0NTENDER
08-08-2005, 03:29 PM
can you do a full interior of a car? good luck
It might include an interior, but it won't be the one that I really want to do.
RespirologyRC
08-09-2005, 01:58 AM
My new name is MagnesiumFoot:)
DCLXVI
08-09-2005, 11:17 AM
hey about 2 summers at a local 7-11,this younger guy had a right hand drive old mini cooper.it was gold in color.it was like all orginal.i was talking to him about it n he said he had it imported from overseas n it was major $$$$$ to do it.but he loved it.
also too i seen a mid 80's bmw right drive when i went to a dr's appt once.the guy was from england.he too had it imported from overseas.
my friend was in the army n had his 80's vette shipped to him overseas to germany n he winded up totaling it out.he said there was nothing left to it n he doent know how he walked away from it.but thank god!
England is as far as I know the only country in Europe that has right side driver...the rest has normal cars...Japan is like England and I think New Zeeland and Australia also...
Funny thing is that up until -68 we drove on the left side of the road but had the steering wheel on the left side, when they decided to change it everyone said that the accidents would increase by alot but the final tally was that accidents decreased by a great deal! :D
leadacid1
08-11-2005, 08:53 AM
Here's my entry Protoform Nemesis 200mm
Airbrushed using Createx paints
Hand maked using 3M masking tape
Used on an Ofna CD3pro chassis :D
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a108/leadacid1/nemesis3.jpg
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a108/leadacid1/nemesis2.jpg
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a108/leadacid1/nemesis.jpg
mikevillena
08-11-2005, 11:05 AM
Great stuff thus far, gang. I'll be watching this thread with great interest.
cuchytil
08-11-2005, 12:04 PM
Yes, awesome. Can't wait to get mine in here! :D
AirBoston
08-11-2005, 01:05 PM
True concours cars are not that popular I guess. I still think the problem stems from people not reading the initial posts.
BTW, you can buy right hands drive cars pretty easily in the states. For sale near me is a '67 mini cooper S from NZ. I also know the owners of a Rolls Royce and a Lotus super 7.
Seifer123
08-11-2005, 09:43 PM
Here is mine. Tamiya R32 Skyline
My S-tune Drifter
http://members.shaw.ca/Holy_Seifer/DSC02429.jpg
http://members.shaw.ca/Holy_Seifer/DSC02382.jpg
http://members.shaw.ca/Holy_Seifer/DSC02384.jpg
http://members.shaw.ca/Holy_Seifer/DSC02386.jpg
http://members.shaw.ca/Holy_Seifer/DSC02389.jpg
http://members.shaw.ca/Holy_Seifer/DSC02387.jpg
http://members.shaw.ca/Holy_Seifer/DSC02427.jpg
Notice the body is a bit smoged up by the exhuast
http://members.shaw.ca/Holy_Seifer/DSC02390.jpg
Legend_Car
08-11-2005, 10:08 PM
nice drifter
Silent Scope
08-11-2005, 10:31 PM
trip the posts
Legend_Car
08-11-2005, 10:48 PM
trip the posts
What???????
maxxenitout
08-12-2005, 12:44 AM
I think he meant trim the posts...
FESTER2004
08-12-2005, 01:19 AM
nice nissan.what color is that?or is it your own mix?
AirBoston
08-12-2005, 10:37 AM
Now that Nissan is a nice example of a concours car. The velocity stacks coming through the hood is a bit much though. :)
Love the color too.
acidburn
08-12-2005, 02:13 PM
Nice job Seifer 123!
Silent Scope
08-12-2005, 05:00 PM
I think he meant trim the posts...
yah thats what i ment sorry :o
Buggyracer28
08-12-2005, 05:03 PM
sweet skyline... but why the heart in the window?
Silent Scope
08-12-2005, 05:07 PM
cuz japanese people r cool why else
Buggyracer28
08-12-2005, 06:42 PM
lol what?! thats an awesome exhaust you have on there. what is it made of?
mikevillena
08-12-2005, 06:58 PM
Great job! You also went to the trouble of installing Japanese Domestic license plates front and back. Very clean look and well matched wheels. If I may nit pick, I'd say trim the body posts and clean up the jagged cutouts on the wheelwells. I know that replacement Tamiya posts can get expensive as you have to buy the whole damned "X" part tree (with a complete set of suspension arms), but your ride is very nice and is worth it. Use a Mototool to trim your wheelwells and wrap a piece of sandpaper around an empty spray can and sand them smooth. This will also eliminate stress points where fractures can start should you tap the wall.
RealJDMman
08-14-2005, 05:35 PM
Entry #1
my silvia,
chassis: hpi nitro rs4 3 ss
Body: Hpi silvia
Paint: pactra
Details: Tamiya wing and mirrors, rpm exhaust, custom intercooler, mesh grille, roll cage, headlights.
http://upload.thefordmccord.com/pics/small silvia 1.JPG
http://upload.thefordmccord.com/pics/small silvia 2.JPG
http://upload.thefordmccord.com/pics/small silvia 3.JPG
http://upload.thefordmccord.com/pics/small silvia 4.JPG
RealJDMman
08-14-2005, 05:49 PM
Entry #2
Chassis: custom made with tamiya tlt axles and a stampede tranny.
Body: Hpi bronco
Paint: pactra
Details: Brush guard, spare tire, dashboard, steering wheel.
http://upload.thefordmccord.com/pics/front 1.JPG
http://upload.thefordmccord.com/pics/front tire 1.JPG
http://upload.thefordmccord.com/pics/side numero 1.JPG
http://upload.thefordmccord.com/pics/new back.JPG
FESTER2004
08-14-2005, 06:53 PM
very nice rides n great attention to detail.
LEADFOOT
08-14-2005, 07:31 PM
Very nice!
I think if you took some pics of the Bronco where you couldn't tell the scale, it would be hard to tell it is RC....take some away from steps, pots, tables, etc...
Silent Scope
08-14-2005, 07:46 PM
http://upload.thefordmccord.com/pics/small silvia 1.JPG
I THINK THE V-TEC KICKED IN YO! :D
FESTER2004
08-14-2005, 10:44 PM
LEADFOOT, i was thinking the same thing!,lol it kinda looks real in a way
RC18T
08-15-2005, 06:52 AM
so is the driver a passenger?
Oh brother..... The little one can't take a hint....LOL :eek: :D
Gojira
08-15-2005, 08:48 AM
ya leadfoot the driver sits in the passengers lap. have you seen 2 fast 2 furious? probably not but anyways there is a skyline which is an imported car and the driver drives were the passenger sits in normal cars. and the passenger would sit were the driver does. WOW
all skylines imported into the usa are righthand drive as are all japanese cars ,for the people into the import seen u can buy a front clip from japan for 2000-5000$ that is from the front bumper to the dashboard so you can convert your us spec car into right hand drive
C0NTENDER
08-15-2005, 02:54 PM
Now that Nissan is a nice example of a concours car.
Love the color too.
I would have to agree, very good example and a well done car.
PitStops
08-15-2005, 08:30 PM
all of this makes me want to do another concourse body. mistubishi eclispe here I come
cuchytil
08-16-2005, 12:07 AM
all of this makes me want to do another concourse body. mistubishi eclispe here I come
noooo im already doing that one for this month!
RespirologyRC
08-16-2005, 05:28 PM
I'm still here guys, and I've got something brewing...
C0NTENDER
08-16-2005, 06:43 PM
I'm still here guys, and I've got something brewing...
MAn, it looks like everyone has something brewing :)
PitStops
08-16-2005, 09:31 PM
noooo im already doing that one for this month!
I did one last year ago took two trophies from a race for concourse.
Was a blast doing it, but want to do one better. Maybe I will look at some other vehicles. But the Eclipse is still my Favorite.
Bryan
cuchytil
08-16-2005, 11:13 PM
Which eclipse did you do? I think there are a few different models out there. Im doing the one with the 98 body style, curved wing, ect... Hopefully it turns out as good as some of these bodies!
PitStops
08-17-2005, 11:33 AM
this one
http://www.passionandwarfare.com/outdoor3.small3.JPG
Bryan
Legend_Car
08-17-2005, 05:04 PM
nice eclipse i like the grill
PitStops
08-17-2005, 05:26 PM
thanks
cuchytil
08-17-2005, 11:17 PM
Where does everyone find wipers and mirrors?
btw... that eclipse is nice. I love the lights.
snakeyes17
08-17-2005, 11:19 PM
yeah I like the realism of it also. If you tinted the windows, and had it alone it would look like a 1:1 car.
FESTER2004
08-18-2005, 01:21 AM
i am sure u can get the mirrors n stuff from left over or unused models
PitStops
08-18-2005, 01:25 AM
I got the mirrors wipers and light buckets from a guy who used to come onto the forums here. I did actually end up tinting the windows with 15% automotive tint
You can also try to get parts tree number from tamiya kits or old and now new yokomo kits for the trim parts. endless wheel makes some very killer wings wheel/brake kits and interior kits.
Bryan
FESTER2004
08-18-2005, 01:28 AM
u did a aweosme job!
PitStops
08-18-2005, 10:24 PM
thanks
Bryan
Farwar
08-20-2005, 04:27 PM
Body: HPI Ford Mustang GTR 200mm
Chassis: Xray T1R
Paint: Createx Blue and white
Masks: Everything handcut
Details: Disk brakes and calipers, dual exhaust pipes
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/Farwar/DSCN0522.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/Farwar/DSCN0524.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/Farwar/DSCN0523.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/Farwar/DSCN0537.jpg
snakeyes17
08-20-2005, 09:49 PM
Farwar, that looks really good. You might want to file around the wheel wells a little to smooth it out and on the rear bumper it looks like it should be cut right below that raised part. Other than that I think it looks great.
FESTER2004
08-20-2005, 09:57 PM
really nice 'stang!
snakeyes17
08-20-2005, 11:31 PM
Out of curiousity, how come you chose the 200mm Mustang over the 190mm?
romuald31
08-22-2005, 04:35 PM
Hello from France,
some pics of the team's car I drive for ( mine is the grey ).
http://img278.imageshack.us/img278/836/sanstitre26ya.png
http://img278.imageshack.us/img278/3082/redimensionnementderedimension.png
The body for training.....
http://img278.imageshack.us/img278/5408/redimensionnementdekif23894ti.jpg
The body for my daughter
http://img278.imageshack.us/img278/8803/redimensionnementdekif53765ml.jpg
Legend_Car
08-22-2005, 05:31 PM
nice paint
FESTER2004
08-23-2005, 12:36 AM
did u paint them? yeah awesome work!
C0NTENDER
08-23-2005, 04:20 PM
Ok, my rush job is almost complete, I should be able to wrap it up and post some pictures before the end of this weekend.
urbangangsta101
08-24-2005, 03:36 AM
My first body, Nissan Silvia S15 Drift Car.
It's been scratched a bit since these pics were taken, oh well :(
Took me a week to do, couple of hours every night after work.
http://img389.imageshack.us/img389/3874/picture14ga.jpg
http://img389.imageshack.us/img389/2541/picture28ai.jpg
http://img389.imageshack.us/img389/3349/picture39wi.jpg
http://img389.imageshack.us/img389/7077/picture45sd.jpg
http://img389.imageshack.us/img389/1051/picture57oc.jpg
http://img389.imageshack.us/img389/2346/picture60mi.jpg
sk8r4life316
08-24-2005, 11:56 PM
Hey urbangansta...what do you do for the exhaust...
-Cody
urbangangsta101
08-25-2005, 04:02 AM
Hey urbangansta...what do you do for the exhaust...
-Cody
Its a Yokomo Muffler Kit, you can order them seperate from Yokomo
SpamCake
08-25-2005, 05:42 PM
Well, here's my entry.
-Body and Chassis: 190mm Protoform Chrysler 300M on a Roadrunner Xpress chassis.
-Paint Used: Createx acrylics, both their standard and AutoAir variant, as well as Alclad II Lacquer for the chrome.
-Details Built: Scale Driver Figure, cast in 2-part urethane resin.
-Masks Used: Hand-cut liquid masking fluid.
The design is based loosely on Voice of Fire, painted by Barnett Newman in 1967. I felt it needed a bit of a reworking.
See attachment.
You'll be able to see a few more photos on my website shortly. (well, if not by this afternoon, then by tomorrow)
calvin3
08-25-2005, 09:44 PM
Out of curiousity, how come you chose the 200mm Mustang over the 190mm?
Cause they don't make it in 190.
Piggy89373
08-26-2005, 10:14 AM
Spam!!! Good to see you back on here showing your work! Awesome paint.
mikevillena
08-26-2005, 11:48 PM
Wow...nice ride Spamcake! Hmmm.....
KonArtist
08-27-2005, 01:20 AM
Body: Tamiya NSX
Chassis: TT-01
Paint: Tamiya Mettalic Blue, Backed with House of kolor Silver
Masks: Window Frames.
Details: Drift Theme, HPI D Rims, ABS Tires, Personalized Decals.
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b397/FeintMotions/HPIM1808.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b397/FeintMotions/HPIM1809.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b397/FeintMotions/HPIM1811.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b397/FeintMotions/HPIM1812.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b397/FeintMotions/HPIM1836.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b397/FeintMotions/HPIM1829.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b397/FeintMotions/HPIM1837.jpg
FESTER2004
08-27-2005, 02:07 AM
wow!there is alot of entries this month!i surprised cuz i though this 1 was a toughy,lol but everyone did a awesome job so far!u all should be proud of yourselfs!
FESTER2004
08-27-2005, 02:08 AM
spamcake-thats amazing with the figure,very unique!cool paint scheme!
SpamCake
08-27-2005, 02:39 AM
Piggy89373, mikevillena, FESTER2004;
Thanks for the comments. :) I've finally got the promised extra pictures up on my website -- choose Galleries, Touring Cars, scroll to the bottom and click the one with the red stripe. All the new pictures were taken after a big race weekend, so there are some battlescars showing. Let's call it "extra detailing" shall we? hrmm yeah :p
abraksith
08-27-2005, 07:57 AM
Spamcake: that car is hot, looks like some sort of US Navy flame cammo,like the maching reds all over the place
LEADFOOT
08-27-2005, 08:48 AM
That NSX is HOT!
C0NTENDER
08-27-2005, 11:27 AM
That NSX is HOT!
I agree, that NSX looks really nice!
C0NTENDER
08-28-2005, 02:29 PM
Well, I couldn't finish it the way I wanted to, but I'm going to submit it anyway. It's a HPI CLK-GTR. I will post other pictures later today or tomorrow, but for now here is a preview:
HPI 200mm CLK-GTR
http://www.uuworld.net/~reub/clk4.jpg
mikevillena
08-28-2005, 06:47 PM
Since I wasn't able to finish my primary entry, I'll save it for another time. I thought I'd submit an earlier work that some of you might be familiar with. I hope nobody minds. Otherwise, I'd be happy to withdraw it or ask for an honorary entry status. Since the "old girl" never really made it to the magazine, I thought I'd give her one last hurrah.
Built - Feb. 2005
Bodyshell - Tamiya Eunos Roadster 1/10th scale
Chassis - Tamiya M02-M rear wheel drive
Paint - Pactra Racing Red, Metalizer, various lacquer, enamel and watercolors
Mask - window masks that came with the kit
Details - Opening hood, driver side door and trunk. Pop-up headlights. Working door handles. All details scratchbuilt. Driver figure is a heavily modified action figure :D
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Concourse/MazdaMiata001.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Concourse/MazdaMiata002.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Concourse/MazdaMiata003.jpg
DCLXVI
08-28-2005, 06:50 PM
http://dclxvi.no-ip.info/tongue4.gif
cuchytil
08-28-2005, 07:55 PM
http://dclxvi.no-ip.info/tongue4.gif
i second that motion
C0NTENDER
08-28-2005, 08:21 PM
mikevillena,
Great looking car. Man, that is what concours is all about. Wonderful job and that is even putting it lightly :).
HPI_freak
08-28-2005, 11:43 PM
is that RC?
mikevillena
08-29-2005, 12:14 AM
Thanks for the kind compliments gang! I don't really want to hog this thread but there have been some really nice rides posted so far. Come on gang, keep the entries coming. Hi HPI freak! If you look closely, you can see parts of the Tamiya chassis peeking out from under the bodyshell. I had to do several laps to qualify for TCS. I ran it for about 5 mins. on 4-cells and turned in respectable times (considering it was running on 4 cells!). Note: Fred from Tamiya standing in the background; no doubt stunned that the car actually runs ;)
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Miata/Miatatrackside001.jpg
FESTER2004
08-29-2005, 12:28 AM
mikevillea-totally awesome man!hey the threads u recently did r for this car for the headlights,those threads apply to this car right???? to be correct right????? hmm techniacally u started to build this thing in feb 2005 but u recently finished it,hmmmmm.so this entry should count. its a loop hole i thougth of,lol! i hope they let u stay in this contest with your entry! u always blow me away with yr work! i wouldnt mind if u stayed in the contest eather!hopefully the moderaters feel the same!
Piggy89373
08-29-2005, 10:30 AM
Mike, just skirted in for the time restrictions. :D Built in Feb just cuts in the 6 month mark, so no worries there. Now that it's finished, it looks awesome!! Glad to see you finished it and posted it here.
BTW, YGPM.
mikevillena
08-29-2005, 01:20 PM
Since I wasn't able to finish my primary entry, I'll save it for another time. I thought I'd submit an earlier work that some of you might be familiar with. I hope nobody minds. Otherwise, I'd be happy to withdraw it or ask for an honorary entry status. Since the "old girl" never really made it to the magazine, I thought I'd give her one last hurrah.
Built - Feb. 2005
Bodyshell - Tamiya Eunos Roadster 1/10th scale
Chassis - Tamiya M02-M rear wheel drive
Paint - Pactra Racing Red, Metalizer, various lacquer, enamel and watercolors
Mask - window masks that came with the kit
Details - Opening hood, driver side door and trunk. Pop-up headlights. Working door handles. All details scratchbuilt. Driver figure is a heavily modified action figure :D
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Concourse/MazdaMiata001.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Concourse/MazdaMiata002.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/mikevillena/Concourse/MazdaMiata003.jpg
Hey gang,
I'm going to withdraw my entry or pending everyone's approval, re-submitting it as "HONORARY" only (not eligible to win points). Thanks.
Mike V.
FESTER2004
08-29-2005, 02:15 PM
y r u gonna do that mike?
Farwar
08-29-2005, 03:52 PM
Why are you withdrawing? Your car is a peice of artwork and it is a top notch concourse car(better than top notch) that deserves to win. I say you keep it in.
Piggy89373
08-29-2005, 03:55 PM
MikeVillena is withdrawing from the competition because of special circumstances. His entry will remain as an honorable mention, but will not be judged.
Leadfoot has graciously allowed MikeVillena to co-judge this competition. All entries will be judged by a professional painter as well as a professional detailer. You couldn't ask for a better tag team match up!!
For those who were leery of competing against someone of Mike's skill, no worries. So, post up your work, compete against your peers, and have your work judged by two extremely competent guys.
Legend_Car
08-29-2005, 06:30 PM
what are the special circumstances are they not being let out its an awesome car and would definitly win it was built more than six months ago
C0NTENDER
08-29-2005, 08:26 PM
If the car falls within the rules, I don't see any reason why it would be withdrawn. I think it should stay in the competition. And I'm saying this knowing that it's going to beat my entry.
Piggy89373
08-29-2005, 08:45 PM
Um...not to point out the obvious, but the special circumstances are: He's judging this competition.
Leadfoot has graciously allowed MikeVillena to co-judge this competition. All entries will be judged by a professional painter as well as a professional detailer. You couldn't ask for a better tag team match up!!
Aluma
08-29-2005, 11:36 PM
okay...I dont know if I can enter this car cuz I think I did in a previous one, but it was different then. either way, I'd like to see what the improvements amount to in terms of points/judgement. I was going to throw it away, but I rather like it now..especially the graphic, it looked weird before, like it was missing something. :D
HPI imprezza 190mm, racing green/outlaw black/indy silver...
details to look for: new graphics, front canards, front splitter air dam, side splitter skirts, APR style mirrors with "mirror" lenses, rear splitter with integrated exhaust, and the rear carbon wing. The fender vents were already there...and excuse the extra mounting holes, Its mounted on a new chassis. :P
Aluma
08-29-2005, 11:39 PM
oh yeah, the wheels are rather antiques I'd say...but the tires make up for the realism even though I guess a little tire shine too might help. gotta love the tread on them.
Aluma
08-29-2005, 11:41 PM
man this thing looks like its going 100mph standing still. hehehe
I hope these pics are better in quality...I had to scale them down considerably so I could even upload them...man so much work just to post pics. geez.
FESTER2004
08-30-2005, 01:41 AM
that is a cool way to do the green/black sheme,nice job!
Aluma
08-30-2005, 09:22 AM
thanks...next time, hopefully, I'll have straws around to make the rollcage and maybe try an interior...mike's tutorials are really cool.
mikevillena
08-30-2005, 09:28 AM
Hey gang,
First of all, I would like to thank LEADFOOT for being incredibly gracious in sharing the judging duties with me and Piggy for lobbying on my behalf. I am deeply honored. I am also deeply honored by all of your kind compliments and the gesture of true sportsmanship. I wish I could respond to each individually. :D :o :D
That being said (putting on his judge's cap), some thoughts on the entries thus far:
There are several entries that are real head-turners. Some entries can benefit from better picture quality; forget including the realistic background and instead, use your alloted pixel count wisely by cropping and concentrating on the car and it's details as this is a concourse competition. Another minor complaint is the forest of untrimmed bodyposts. If you don't want to trim it, at least unscrew the post(s) and simply lay the bodyshell on the chassis. You might also want to remove the antenna tube and tuck the wire inside the bodyshell. Remember, you don't have to do laps on the track to qualify. A good example is Farwar's entry. A nice, clean build with a superbly applied paintjob, understated details and no ugly posts. By clean, I mean clean cuts on the wheelwells and trim lines. An extra few minutes spent is well worth it! Another reminder for all is to read and understand the rules posted. One entry has zero information, i.e. Bodyshell, paint, details, etc. I hope these observations are seen in a positive and constructive light and that no one takes any comments personally as none are intended to be. I wouldn't have a problem if anyone "RE-ADJUSTS" their entries and resubmits. It might be worth a little bit of effort to clean up and score some more points. At the very least, give your "PRIDE AND JOY" the good exposure that it deserves. Thanks. :D
Mike V.
NotWalkinBlind
08-30-2005, 10:55 AM
Mike, I remember seeing the Miata before... fantastic work.
BTW, is there a working hood latch on that baby, or did you fasten it down with some doublesided tape for the track run?
If there is a hood latch, does it disengage from a cable-actuated knob in the cockpit?
mikevillena
08-30-2005, 11:12 AM
DOH!!!!! You caught me, NotWalkinBlind!!! I ran out of time to complete the car. Actually, it's only 80 percent finished. I got as far as installing the hook on the hood and had built the actuator cable out of some CA micro tubing and micro diameter piano wire. I'm sorry. I've disgraced myself.
HRDforever
08-30-2005, 12:33 PM
so it ends tomarrow at midnight...Well if it does I may have something in, but not my best, but yeah Ill enter something......................................... ...........................
mikevillena
08-30-2005, 02:28 PM
HRD!!!!
THAT'S the spirit! Besides, no one is truly ever finished with their "concourse" ride. Am I right gang?
HRDforever
08-30-2005, 02:42 PM
tru...lol
C0NTENDER
08-30-2005, 03:20 PM
HRD!!!!
THAT'S the spirit! Besides, no one is truly ever finished with their "concourse" ride. Am I right gang?
Your right about that. I have never finished one to completion. There is always something to add.
Aluma
08-30-2005, 04:16 PM
yup, nothing like using it, messing it up and starting all over again to make it better. :D
IE, my green imprezza has a hole on the "other" side cuz I was using it as target practice...LOL...:D
perdonic
08-30-2005, 05:16 PM
Here is mine, You can sorta see the gold metal flake in it.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v514/perdonic/RX-7.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v514/perdonic/RX-71.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v514/perdonic/RX-72.jpg
^j!nx^
08-30-2005, 05:19 PM
man i just finished my body today and it doesnt look like the rain will be letting up so i can get out and take some photos
mikevillena
08-31-2005, 01:41 AM
Hi Perdonic,
Welcome. A nice entry. Please post information on your entry. Thanks.
mikevillena
08-31-2005, 01:49 AM
A GENERAL REMINDER TO ALL ENTRANTS: PLEASE READ THE RULES FOR THIS MONTH'S COMPETITION. Out of consideration and courtesy to all viewers and the judge(s) remember to include INFORMATION on your entry. Thanks.
Aluma
08-31-2005, 09:12 AM
oh yeah...chassis... mine's a TC4...green wrx.
HRDforever
08-31-2005, 09:39 AM
I dont know if ill be able to, but ill try my best, something just came up, and ya, ill try my best, I hope it ends midnight eastern time! Does it?
^j!nx^
08-31-2005, 02:35 PM
Well there was a break in the rain! and was able to get out and shoot a photo or 2.
Tamiya Mitsubishi Evolution6 WRC body 190mm
Yokomo mirror kit
Yokomo wing kit
Tamiya 2 peice gold mesh wheels
Tamiya TA-03F chassis. Lots O mods
Tamiya Gunmetal from a rattle can, backed with outlaw black
Included masks with th e body, but custom cut to fit window better so I didnt have to use the tamiya window stickers.
and now the pic.
http://rs-scooby.com/albums/R-C/CRW_6282_01.sized.jpg
FESTER2004
08-31-2005, 02:55 PM
if there were no body posts,u could pass that off for the real thing, nice job taken a photo of it!very nice ride!
LEADFOOT
08-31-2005, 05:24 PM
http://rs-scooby.com/albums/R-C/CRW_6282_01.sized.jpg
:cool:
Need some real front driving lights. I like it a lot!
mikevillena
08-31-2005, 05:37 PM
I agree with Leadfoot. Absolutely gorgeous PHOTOGRAPHY. Now I understand why you were agonizing earlier about not getting outside to take a picture or two. Speaking of which, do you have any close-ups of this bad boy? I need to see how well you trimmed the bodyshell. Thanks J!NX. Again, gorgeous picture.
Oh and FES, don't knock his body posts. They look perfectly fine to me. With all of the FORESTS of bodyposts thus far, J!nx's posts do not detract from the realism. :D
^j!nx^
08-31-2005, 06:23 PM
I agree with Leadfoot. Absolutely gorgeous PHOTOGRAPHY. Now I understand why you were agonizing earlier about not getting outside to take a picture or two. Speaking of which, do you have any close-ups of this bad boy? I need to see how well you trimmed the bodyshell. Thanks J!NX. Again, gorgeous picture.
Oh and FES, don't knock his body posts. They look perfectly fine to me. With all of the FORESTS of bodyposts thus far, J!nx's posts do not detract from the realism. :D
About the body posts, there only one hole in them on the top for the body pin. 2nd I would NEVER cut those bodys posts as I can get them anymore. They came with the Cross carbon shock tower wich is long long discontinued.
here is a link for a VERY VERY high res. 3070x2064 5mb. Sure nitpick my body ;)
LINK TO HIGHRES COPY OF MY EVO (http://rs-scooby.com/albums/R-C/CRW_6282_01.jpg)
And yes I enjoy photography. I love it!
Legend_Car
08-31-2005, 07:03 PM
awesome whip that thing looks real
Aluma
08-31-2005, 08:29 PM
That is one NIIICCCEEE car. how'd you take that pic? The forest almost looks fake, but its a good touch. Great Job Jinx! I love evos..wish they made the evo8 body.
^j!nx^
08-31-2005, 08:56 PM
it was taken in the parkinglot here at the condo i live in. Tommarow ill take a pic of the area to give you a real perspective of how it looks.
The gear used.
Canon Digital SLR 300D(with hacked firmware to have 10D funtions)
Canon 100-300mm telephoto zoom lens.
35mm UV filter
I shot the photo from about 10 feet or so away. the blured grass was right at the tip of the lens. I dont recall the exact camera settings but when I get to my other PC ill load the RAW into the software and pull all the camera settings off of it.
the main trick and I cant stress it enough to it get farway form the back ground. And make sure theres nothing to really throw off the scale look of the car. Then get down as low as you can. I lay on the ground, and put the camera right on the ground. that limits the viewing plain(like you can see to much of the ground to gauge distance) and that extreamly helps throw off the perspective of things in the back ground.
Later on Ill show you other pics taken from diffrant hight angels and you can see how totaly diffrant the car looks.
mikevillena
08-31-2005, 09:00 PM
J!nx,
I hope you didn't take my request to get a look at how well you trimmed your bodyshell personally. I was trying to be objective as best I can. In my opinion, a concourse car is always built upon solid and BASIC bodyshell painting and trimming techniques. All the added tricks and super details in the world would look out of place if they were attached onto a bodyshell that was poorly painted and trimmed with a chainsaw. A good example is the GTR project that I pulled the plug on. I had a LOT of trick details in mind (some of which would freak you guys out) for that car but I couldn't stand the poor paintjob that I gave it. UGH!! It was the ugliest paintjob that I've ever done and I generally SUCK in painting bodyshells. :(
In short, as a Concours judge (co-judge in this case), I need to nit pick from the basic shell outwards. And my magnifying glass value is fixed for ALL entries. I truly hope that no one on this board takes my comments personally. I've posted my stuff in hopes that I get honest opinions and I will always welcome good and bad comments and I will never take anything personally.
^j!nx^
08-31-2005, 09:19 PM
J!nx,
I hope you didn't take my request to get a look at how well you trimmed your bodyshell personally. I was trying to be objective as best I can. In my opinion, a concourse car is always built upon solid and BASIC bodyshell painting and trimming techniques. All the added tricks and super details in the world would look out of place if they were attached onto a bodyshell that was poorly painted and trimmed with a chainsaw. A good example is the GTR project that I pulled the plug on. I had a LOT of trick details in mind (some of which would freak you guys out) for that car but I couldn't stand the poor paintjob that I gave it. UGH!! It was the ugliest paintjob that I've ever done and I generally SUCK in painting bodyshells. :(
In short, as a Concours judge (co-judge in this case), I need to nit pick from the basic shell outwards. And my magnifying glass value is fixed for ALL entries. I truly hope that no one on this board takes my comments personally. I've posted my stuff in hopes that I get honest opinions and I will always welcome good and bad comments and I will never take anything personally.
Oh I fully understand and was just yanking your chain. It was never intended on beong a concourse body. I just paint and make clean looking bodys for my own enjoy ment. And well it seemed to fit right in this month so I figured I would give it a go!
PS: if you need a magnifying glass for the highres pic you have some major problems :lol:
mikevillena
08-31-2005, 09:27 PM
Thanks for being a good sport about it J!nx. Your bodyshell is super clean and well executed. And I do have poor eyesight (reading too many ehem..."morally qestionable" magazines ruins the peepers :p ) as I am far sighted (visually that is). As for your entry, it is a good example of a cleanly built car with an few tastefully added and understated details. Oh and superbly photographed too!!! :D :D :D
^j!nx^
08-31-2005, 09:53 PM
on body trimming remember dremel is your friend ;)
mikevillena
08-31-2005, 09:56 PM
on body trimming remember dremel is your friend ;)
AMEN, brother :D
LEADFOOT
08-31-2005, 10:07 PM
Piggy says photography isn't supposed to count....
(whatever)
perdonic
08-31-2005, 10:11 PM
Here is mine, You can sorta see the gold metal flake in it.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v514/perdonic/RX-7.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v514/perdonic/RX-71.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v514/perdonic/RX-72.jpg
Chassis-Nitro 4Tec
Body-RX-7
paint-airbrushed parma yellow/sun yellow flames with gold flake.
mikevillena
08-31-2005, 10:13 PM
You are correct, Leadfoot. The superb photography won't earn extra points. Just giving artistic credit where it is due.
mikevillena
08-31-2005, 10:15 PM
Thank you for the info, perdonic. Nice and clean trim job. Boy, those "shadow" detail stickers look pretty realistic!
mikevillena
08-31-2005, 10:21 PM
You are correct, Leadfoot. The superb photography won't earn extra points. Just giving artistic credit where it is due.
As a matter of fact, I wish ^J!nx^ would post a step by step on how to photograph R/C cars :D
^j!nx^
08-31-2005, 10:39 PM
As a matter of fact, I wish ^J!nx^ would post a step by step on how to photograph R/C cars :D
Ill do one for you with my Canon A95 just to show you dont need a digital SLR to get good photos. the 2 keys to photography are lighting and angle. For example this pic came out "good"(could have been grate) but its with a canon a70. Only a 3.2mp camera. Photos ALWAYS look best when down on eye level.
http://rs-scooby.com/albums/R-C/r32_front.jpg
Another good tip is to learn how to use all the functions of your camera so you can shoot in a full manual mode and capture images in RAW mode. That lets you fine tune the image tons once its on your PC.
And good pics could be taken inside also. Here is one I took just the other day. I like to use white back drops(just cheap old foamboard). I use 3 diffrant light sources(just normal house lamps). Just like shooting outside get down low.
http://rs-scooby.com/albums/album100/CRW_6192_01.sized.jpg
and what people dont realise. When I went out shooting photos of the evo I must have taken atleast 30 photos. And out of those 30 only 2 or 3 are worthy. It takes alot of rolling on the ground, getting dirty and just haveing fun. What also makes shooting outside easier is a 2nd person who can spin the car for you while yo ulook threw the view finder for that perfect light angle.
But in the next day or 2 ill get a detailed right up, with 3rd part photos of me actualy photographing so you can get the full perspective of things.
calvin3
08-31-2005, 10:47 PM
Nice Evo ^j!nx^
C0NTENDER
08-31-2005, 11:56 PM
Here is my last min entry on an old HPI RS4 Chassis.
HPI 200mm CLK-GTR
Pactra Paint indy silver mixed with true blue pearl and pearl white backed with outlaw black. Roll Cage was made from Styrene Tubing, the mirrors are from a tamiya kit, real wire mesh for te front grill, side and rear air ducts, air intake from a old kyosho kit. Fuel buckeye was made from cable plug jacks. Antenna made from music wire. And yes, of course, I didn't finish the car :).
http://www.uuworld.net/~reub/clkz.jpg
http://www.uuworld.net/~reub/clkx.jpg
http://www.uuworld.net/~reub/clky.jpg
C0NTENDER
08-31-2005, 11:58 PM
BTW, sorry for the bad pictures, I didn't have my camera on me.
http://www.uuworld.net/~reub/clk9.jpg
http://www.uuworld.net/~reub/clk8.jpg
http://www.uuworld.net/~reub/clk7.jpg
C0NTENDER
08-31-2005, 11:59 PM
More pics
http://www.uuworld.net/~reub/clk6.jpg
http://www.uuworld.net/~reub/clk5.jpg
http://www.uuworld.net/~reub/clk4.jpg
LEADFOOT
09-01-2005, 12:00 AM
bell tapper :P
LEADFOOT
09-01-2005, 12:04 AM
oh great...look what you made me do...now I'm an addict >:(
microrcdude
09-01-2005, 12:07 AM
im so glad im not leadfoot.
Congrats to allm nice work!!!!
MT2 owns you
09-01-2005, 12:11 AM
contender, thats a nice body!! really detailed! i like the little danger sticker under what i think are the fuel things, and the "CLK" on the front grill. nice job! :D
^j!nx^
09-01-2005, 12:17 AM
the one person i feared the most got in with less then a minute left.
:)
mikevillena
09-01-2005, 12:24 AM
Nice job Contender! Out of curiosity, is that a Tamiya rear wing?
mikevillena
09-01-2005, 12:31 AM
Now that official judging can begin, is Respirology still in this thing or did he intend to re-submit his work in a different (Paint) comp?
C0NTENDER
09-01-2005, 12:36 AM
Guys,
Sorry for the rush job, not only did I not finish the body the way I wanted, but I didnt have my camera on me this week, so I couldn't get the pictures that I wanted. So these are a little dull on the color, but this is all I had to share this time around so sorry about that.
mikevillena - The mirrors, emblem and wing are from the Tamiya clk kit. I took my dremel and took down the humps for the wing that you get with HPI bodies and put wire mesh it it's place (painted flat black)
^j!nx^ - Now you knew I couldn't let you down :), it was really tough getting the pictures down to a decent size with 5 min to the deadline. I'm not even sure I posted the correct pictures. I will post in about 5 min with the complete details of the car.
mikevillena
09-01-2005, 12:57 AM
Guys,
Sorry for the rush job, not only did I not finish the body the way I wanted, but I didnt have my camera on me this week, so I couldn't get the pictures that I wanted. So these are a little dull on the color, but this is all I had to share this time around so sorry about that.
mikevillena - The mirrors, emblem and wing are from the Tamiya clk kit. I took my dremel and took down the humps for the wing that you get with HPI bodies and put wire mesh it it's place (painted flat black)
^j!nx^ - Now you knew I couldn't let you down :), it was really tough getting the pictures down to a decent size with 5 min to the deadline. I'm not even sure I posted the correct pictures. I will post in about 5 min with the complete details of the car.
Thanks for the info Contender.
Thanks to all of the Entrants. Great job all around!!!! :D
Piggy and LEADFOOT - Please p.m. me at your convenience.
FESTER2004
09-01-2005, 01:34 AM
jinx- i didnt mean in anyway to sound like i was knocking your body posts!sorry if i came arcoss ,sounding that!my bad!
C0NTENDER
09-01-2005, 01:39 AM
Now that I'm not rushing, here are the complete details:
Details:
200mm HPI CLK-GTR
Paint
Pactra indy silver mixed with parts true blue pearl
Pactra Pearl white backed with Outlaw black
1. Side mirrors, Emblem, rear wing from a Tamiya Kit
2. Antenna made from music wire
3. Roll cage made from Styrene tubing
4. Front grill and air ducts were made using wire mesh, painted flat black for the air ducts on the front side, and rear.
5. Trimmed the body a little wide to give it more flare (you can't really tell by these pics :(
6. Rear lights are tinted red by using small amounts of pactra candy red (sorry, no pictures to display this)
7. Rear duct above bumper (sorry no picture to show)
8. Mesh rims painted with Tamiya paint (gun metal)
9. Air intake on the top of the car (not sure where I got this from, just laying in my bag of goodies)
10. Decals from various leftovers
11. Fuel buckeye was made with cable plug jacks
mikevillena
09-01-2005, 02:34 AM
Hey gang,
I've just finished downloading 5 sets of entries. I've spent a good deal of time looking at each entry closely. I'm posting some initial observations and mind you, these are just observations with no regard to points allocation. I'm being entirely objective and I hope that my observations are viewed as constructive and as a guide and aid to improving everyone's detailing skills (including mine). I've also included a SUGGESTED RANKING as a guide. Note that I ommited the Painter's Ranking. I would rather the Senior Painters on this board be the ones to suggest those rankings. On entries that have no details, I would give the default ranking as Beginner. To be fair and to give everyone an idea of how objective I can be, I'm going to critique my own HONORARY entry. Because I would rank myself as Master Detailer (not Pro), I hold myself to very high standards as is expected of a Master Detailer:
Mazda Miata - Single color paintjob. Lots of added details. Some details are well executed. Some details are missing; hood striker plate and latch, rear trunk latch assembly, hood release handle on dashboard, lower fascia detail, front and rear towing eyes, etc. Some details are poorly executed; rollbar is poorly made (top of hoop doesn't have a smooth radius). The stickers for the front marker lights and rear tailights are not compatible with the level of details and detract from the overall appearance. Some details are poorly painted (door treshold trim line is sloppy, rollbar finish is poor, messy black wash on valve cover, etc.). Driver figure is too small for the scale. Correct overall stance. Scale appearance suffers from slightly off-scale driver figure. Painter ranking: N/A. Detailer ranking: Master
Onto the offical entries:
Respirology - Nice paintjob. The only added detail is the bent front bumper. Nice overall stance. Scale appearance is acceptable for a monster truck. Painter ranking: Not available. Detailer ranking: Beginner
RC10 - Nice paintjob. No additional details. Nice overall stance.. Apperance is slightly not to scale for a stadium truck but acceptable. Painter ranking: N/A. Detailer ranking: Beginner
RealDJ - Nissan Sylvia - Simple two-color paintjob. Lots of added details. Headlights appear to be stickers applied to a backing plate which was glued in place behind headlight opening. Intercooler is a piece of brushed aluminum sticker with no detail whatsoever. Rollcage is well done. Front mesh is crude (looks like porch window screen material) but acceptable. Suggest different material or laying the pattern at an angle so that it doesn't look like window screen. Rear license plate is not to scale; too small. Nice stickers on the spokes of wheels. Detail lines poorly applied. Suggest using Kyosho detail tape. Rear wing paintjob has fingerprints on it. Attempt at simulated carbon fiber on front airdam is poor (looks like laid bricks). Suggest either masking off the airdam and spraying it semi-gloss black or using scale decals/stickers. Exhaust is nice and is probably commercially available. Overall stance is correct. Appearance is to scale (except for the rear license plate). Painter ranking: N/A. Detailer ranking: Intermediate
Ford Bronco - Nice color scheme. The sticker on the hood is a nice touch. Body and wheelwells were trimmed poorly. Front guard is to scale and appears to be a Tamiya part. No photos of dashboard. Steering wheel is too thick but acceptable. Overall stance is correct for a crawler, off-road truck. Scale appearance suffers slightly from poor trim job on wheelwells and bodyshell.
Painter ranking: N/A. Detailer ranking: Intermediate
More to follow.
mikevillena
09-01-2005, 03:56 AM
TriTurbo - Tamiya NSX - Nice multi-color paintjob. Rear wing is acceptable as JGTC and is nice. The carbon fiber looks good. Driver's seat is nice touch (even if it is a cell-phone holder). If this Tamiya kit came with wipers, why not use it? Overall stance is correct for a JGTC car. Scale appearance suffers slightly from the rough trim job on the front left wheelwell. Painter ranking: N/A. Detailer ranking: Beginner/Intermediate.
Leadacid 1 - Protoform Nemesis - Nice multi-color paintjob. No additional details. Overall stance is correct for a Touring Car. Overall scale appearance suffers from untrimmed bodyposts, body clips, antenna mast, unpainted rear wing. Painter ranking: N/A. Detailer ranking: Beginner.
Seifer 123 - Tamiya Skyline - Nice two color paint scheme. Nice wheels. Rear exhaust with burned effect is a nice touch. Black trim tape (Kyosho or Pactra?) on door, hood, trunk,etc. openings well applied. Window tint is very nice and even. Front license plate is nice. Rear license plate appears to be too small. Overall stance is correct for Drifter/Street Tuner. Overall scale appearance suffers greatly from untrimmed body posts and poor trim job on rear wheelwells. Painter ranking: N/A. Detailer ranking: Intermediate.
Farwar - HPI Ford Mustang - Nice two color paintjob. Nice wheels. Could use window tint to hide internals. Disc brakes appear to be scratchbuilt and have minimal detail but are nice. Rear exhaust pipes appear to be scratchbuilt and are nice but the left one is slightly off angle. Overall stance is correct for a streetcar (aggressive). Overall scale appearance is acceptable (need window tint and clean up on wheelwells). Painter ranking: N/A. Detailer ranking: Intermediate.
Romuald31 - Confusing post and entries. All seem to be well painted with multi-color (and very colorful) paint schemes. No additional details. Overall stance is good. Scale appearance is poor ( untrimmed posts, antenna tube). Painter ranking: N/A Detail ranking:Beginner. NOTE: PLEASE READ RULES BEFORE ENTERING MORE THAN TWO ENTRIES. In the case of multiple cars in photograph, please specify which car (regardless of ownership) is the actual entry.
perdonic
09-01-2005, 04:25 AM
Thank you for the info, perdonic. Nice and clean trim job. Boy, those "shadow" detail stickers look pretty realistic!
To tell you the truth I have been driving this car for 4 months. and I am sorry but the metal flake is airburshed and the other base yellow and sun yellow are rattle canned.
mikevillena
09-01-2005, 05:14 AM
To tell you the truth I have been driving this car for 4 months. and I am sorry but the metal flake is airburshed and the other base yellow and sun yellow are rattle canned.
No problem Perdonic. The paint info would be useful for LEADFOOT in allocating points. :)
mikevillena
09-01-2005, 05:25 AM
Urbangangsta - Nissan Silvia - Nice single color paintjob. Nice wheels. Appears to have disc brakes installed with no caliper details visible but picture quality is poor. Nice headlight and tailight assemblies. Nice rear wing. Very nice exhaust. Nice extra dark window tint. Trim job appears to be acceptable. Overall stance is correct for Drifter/Street Tuner. Overall scale appearance suffers greatly because of untrimmed body posts, huge body clips and antenna rod. Painter ranking: N/A. Detailer ranking: Beginner/Intermediate.
KonArtist - Tamiya NSX - Nice solid color. Mirrors and rear wing are nice stock kit items. Cutout on nose is nicely done but needs radiator grill or intercooler instead of the foam bumper on chassis. Needs intake sticker or grind out the opening on the engine intake snorkel. Overall stance is correct for Drifter/Street Tuner. Overall scale appearance suffers slightly from untrimmed body posts and rough front right wheelwell cutout. Painter ranking: N/A. Detailer ranking: Intermediate
Perdonic - Mazda RX-7 - Nice paintjob. Nice wheels. Well applied detail stickers. Sponsor stickers are a little too busy or in the wrong places for the paintjob. No additional details. Overall stance is correct for Drifter/Street Tuner. Overall scale appearance suffers greatly from untrimmed bodyposts and antenna tube. Painter ranking: N/A. Detailer ranking: Beginner.
Aluma - Subaru - Nice two-color paintjob. Nice wheels. Lots of extra details. Scratchbuilt aerodynamic aids are well executed. Very good scratchbuilt/modified exhaust. Needs window tint to hide internals. Mirrors too small (not to scale). Overall stance is correct for Drifter/Street Tuner. Overall scale appearance suffers from untrimmed body posts and out of scale mirrors.
Painter ranking: Intermediate/Advanced
More to follow later.
Aluma
09-01-2005, 08:56 AM
dang, I thought I got it just right...well maybe next time.
mikevillena
09-01-2005, 10:51 AM
dang, I thought I got it just right...well maybe next time.
Aluma,
You did a great job overall. These are just some observations from an A/R modeler on medications :D . If your rearview mirrors were to scale, they should be roughly .3 to .5 in. for 1/10th scale. An example is the outside rearview mirrors on JGTC race cars. They are mostly 6 in. wide by 2.5 inches tall (mirror body and not mounting dimensions). In 1/10th scale, that would be .6 x .25 (simply move decimal place. Ain't it easy to work in 1/10th?).
mikevillena
09-01-2005, 10:58 AM
Final portion of observations and notes:
Spamcake - Chrysler - Exceptional multi-color paintjob (reminds me of the Gulf sponsored race cars). Outstanding scale driver figure (separate exterior detail, not mounted inside car). Very nice custom painted wheels with white lettering on tires. Overall stance is correct for Touring car/Street Racer. Overall scale appearance is slightly marred by bodyclips but is enhanced greatly by scale driver figure. Painter ranking: N/A. Detailer ranking: Advanced/Master
J!NX - Mitsubishi - Nice solid color. Complimentary wheels. Cleanly built with very restained details such as mirrors and rear wing. Overall stance is correct for Drifter/Street Car. Overall scale appearance is exceptional (body posts, while present, are discreet and well-trimmed). Painter ranking: N/A. Detailer ranking: Intermediate/Advanced.
Contender - Simple but effective color scheme. Incorrect shade of silver for Mercedes Benz AMG factory race car but still looks good. Decals are mis-matched and incorrect for factory race car but are nicely applied and looks good on bodyshell. Lots of details. Nice wheels. Very nice slotted disc brakes. Tires are nice but incorrect for the CLK race car (even as rain tires, wrong pattern. Michelin and Bridgestone tire engineers HAND-CUT special pattern grooves on all factory rain tires for each race using templates and router.). Nice SCRATCHBUILT rollcage but incorrect diameter (too big). Suggest two sizes down on Evergreen plastic tubing. Applied mesh is of correct scale and looks good. However, mesh would be incorrect for rear NACA ducts. Brilliant use of materials to simulate fueling ports. Details such as wiper, mirrors and hood badge are nice kit (Tamiya) items. Scale antenna is exceptional and looks really good. Rear wing is a kit item (Tamiya) but is mounted at a wrong angle. Suggest re-mounting or modifying to get downforce and not lift. Missing lower spoiler on rear of bodywork. Overall stance is too high for a GT1 race car. Suggest mounting lower and re-trimming the wheelwells and lower panels to improve visuals. Overall scale appearance suffers slightly from incorrectly mounted rear wing, rough trim job and incorrect stance. Painter ranking: N/A. Detailer ranking: Intermediate/Advanced.
Again, these are just observations and notes by a detailer to help fellow detailers. Please feel free to post if I ommited any details on your entry. Thanks gang. :D
mikevillena
09-01-2005, 11:28 AM
Correction:
Aluma - Subaru - ...............
Painter ranking: N/A. Detailer ranking: Intermediate/Advanced.
microrcdude
09-01-2005, 01:00 PM
hey aluma, in that pic you posted, is that a mitsu lancer i see? What year? Got more pics? I have an 04 ES
Aluma
09-01-2005, 01:31 PM
oh its not mine, but yes its a lancer. I have an evo though...and if I had the cash I'd deck it all out with carbon goodies. :D
mikevillena
09-01-2005, 01:37 PM
Hey Aluma,
NAH!!! You don't want to spend money on a real car. Spend it on R/C cars!!!! :D :D :D
perdonic
09-01-2005, 03:36 PM
K I don't care but I Fixed my pictures just for fun I took off some stickers, and the anteena and body posts...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v514/perdonic/RX.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v514/perdonic/RX-.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v514/perdonic/RX1.jpg
mikevillena
09-01-2005, 08:20 PM
Wow Perdonic. See the difference right away? Just think how that bad boy would look if you tinted the windows a little darker! Nice job on trimming that curved front airdam!
perdonic
09-02-2005, 02:54 AM
Yeah it is too bad I didn't do it before I entered it. O well live and learn not a big deal. i was going to tint the windows and put a carbon fiber hood on it but I didn't because the last one had dark windows and it was time to go clear but next time it will be dark again because clear shows lots of finger prints.I just wish this body came with mirrors.
MT2 owns you
09-02-2005, 03:32 AM
never noticed most bodies dont come with mirrors...but that body does look much better that way.:)
^j!nx^
09-02-2005, 07:20 AM
99% of tamiya bodys come with mirrors. The mirrors on my Evo are from yokomo. They sell the mirrors and windsheild wipers for like 3.50 on tower.
Aluma
09-02-2005, 08:51 AM
Hey Aluma,
NAH!!! You don't want to spend money on a real car. Spend it on R/C cars!!!! :D :D :D
Yes...I know...thats why its still 99% stock. :D (Does shiftknob count as not stock?)
I cant exactly race the big car, but I can race the little ones and not go to jail.
mikevillena
09-02-2005, 09:35 AM
Yes...I know...thats why its still 99% stock. :D (Does shiftknob count as not stock?)
I cant exactly race the big car, but I can race the little ones and not go to jail.
Hey man, I hear you. Too bad we don't have an Autobahn here in the U.S. But then again with the price of petrol, I'd start riding a bicycle. Sorry, off topic. :D
Back on topic. Say, would you guys be interested in a tutorial on scratchbuilding easy and small details like mirrors, wipers, exhaust systems, etc. for your rides? I know that I've been posting techniques on really tough projects and most people probably think I'm some loudmouth "know it all" :o , but I'm just like everyone here who just wants to share ideas and techniques. And I don't know everything either. I also hope that people don't get offended or think that I'm being overly harsh. :o
Piggy89373
09-02-2005, 09:41 AM
Thanks to all who entered. The scores are still being tallied as the judges hash things out. There were a number of great entries and judging was pretty tough.
Because of the opportunity to have someone who's actually built stuff for concourse competitions, I've asked the judges to score the entries a bit more critically than normal. I know some of you put a tremendous amount of effort and time into your entries, so I ask that you take the scoring and comments as constructive as possible (put on your thick skin). There is NO malice in their decisions. If contestants have problems with their scoring or decisions, take it up with me in PM, not on public forum.
With that said, congratulations to all who entered and thank you for making a great contest. Good luck to everyone!!
Edit: Mike, don't worry about sounding like a loudmouth. You've proven yourself time and again that you know what you're talking about and that your focus on here is helping people out. Also, a tutorial thread wouldn't be a bad idea. ;)
LEADFOOT
09-02-2005, 11:14 AM
cool, now I won't be the A-hole anymore :D
mikevillena
09-02-2005, 12:42 PM
That's MISTER *-hole to you buddy! Now that LEADFOOT has passed this dubious honor to me, I"d like to thank all of those countless MODEL CONTEST judges and CONCOURS judges that have CUT, MUTILATED, SPINDLED and CRUSHED my ego time and time again (and in even less gentler terms) in the many countless contests that I've entered. I'd also like to thank the two undisputed MASTERS from my old model car club ( of which we even had a member that was..excuse the non-PC term....BLIND , but who still built and entered model cars into competition! Talk about a fierce competitor. Just think about that for a moment! :eek: ). Those two MASTERS would give me an A- for effort and a C- for execution. They would honestly consider my work "sloppy" and far from MUSEUM QUALITY. I would too. You see, their handiwork graces private collections and musems.
But those same MASTERS would turn around after the competition and point out where my mistakes were and would bend over backwards to teach me their techniques and a better way to do things. Something for all to consider and something that I try to remember everytime I walk up to the workbench.
ALL OF THE ENTRANTS did a marvelous job and no doubt, invested a great deal of time, blood, sweat and tears and should be proud of the work that they did. I hope this CONCOUR D'ELEGANCE thread gets archived so that we all can check it out months from now to see how far we have all improved. If anything, I'm certain that by then, several "Best of Show" and "Concours" 1st place trophies will have been taken home by our many members who have entered their "pride and joy" that they have built after having improved their skills. Sorry about jackin' this thread. I'll get off my soapbox now. :D
Piggy89373
09-02-2005, 01:29 PM
Guess it's time for me to use the soapbox then. :D
Now, there are guidelines and rules for the competition posted on page one. It is encumbent upon each competitor to read the rules of the contest and to understand the design and goal of this contest. These rules are enforced, and as such, failure to meet these requirements and rules will not qualify. The rules are there for a reason. Do not take it as a personal assault if your entry was DQ'd or DNQ'd. There were justifiable actions taken in this contest that are not personal affronts on anyone.
The judging was conducted by two judges, Leadfoot and Mikevillena. Each were allowed to judge on a 5 point basis and to provide comments where they felt necessary. Their combined totals determined the outcome of this competition. I will not disclose who scored each entry, but you'll get to see their scores. Areas denoting comments are comments made by me.
With that said, here's the results:
Piggy89373
09-02-2005, 01:32 PM
RespirologyRC- GS Storm
DNQ
Comments: Please enter this in next month's Best Paint Competition where it will place quite well.
Romuald31 - ?Touring Car(s)
DNQ
Comments: A prime example, please enter this into nest month's Best Paint Competition where it should place very well.
Leadacid 1 - Protoform Nemesis
DNQ
Comments: Excellent paint job, but it needs to be entered into next month's Best Paint competition. Please enter this one into the Paint Contest where it should place very well.
Urbangangsta - Nissan Silvia
Details - 2.0 Details - 4
Design 1.0 Design - 4
Execution 2.5 Execution - 3
Total – 5.5 Total – 11 Grand Total – DNQ
Mike: Nice single color paintjob. Nice wheels. Appears to have disc brakes installed with no calipers visible but picture quality is not clear. Nice headlight and tailight assemblies. Nice rear wing. Very nice exhaust. Nice extra dark window tint. Overall stance is correct for Drifter/Street Tuner. Overall scale appearance suffers greatly because of untrimmed body posts, huge body clips and antenna rod.
Leadfoot: I really like the use of light buckets on all 4 corners! (Others may want to take note) Included nice brakes, exhaust, and nice wheel selection. Also, the body pins even matched.
Comments: This entry is DQ’d because of lack of necessary information (see first page for rules). However, the judges saw fit to provide scores and comments for the benefit of the entry. Next time, please enter in the necessary information.
Seifer 123 - Tamiya R32 Skyline
Details - 2.0 Details - 4
Design 2.0 Design - 4
Execution - 2.5 Execution - 4
Total – 6.5 Total – 12 Grand Total: DNQ
Mike: Nice two color paint scheme. Nice wheels. Rear exhaust with burned effect is a nice touch. Black trim tape (Kyosho or Pactra?) on door, hood, trunk, etc. openings well applied. Window tint is very nice and even. Front license plate is nice. Rear license plate appears to be too small. Overall stance is correct for Drifter/Street Tuner. Another instance of where I don’t feel the scale appearance. Need to work a little harder on trimming.
Leadfoot: I really liked this entry. The body posts really need to be trimmed. Also the wheel wells could be sanded for a more finished look. I liked the flawed paint above the exhaust. The metallic orange paint was great.
Comment: This entry is DQ’d because of lack of necessary information (see first page for rules). However, the judges saw fit to provide scores and comments for the benefit of the entry. Next time, please enter in the necessary information.
Piggy89373
09-02-2005, 01:33 PM
Tenth (tied):
Perdonic - Protoform Mazda RX-7
Details - 0.5 Details - 2
Design - 2.0 Design – 2.5
Execution 2.5 Execution - 2
Total – 5 Total – 6.5 Grand Total: 11.5
Mike: Nice paintjob. Nice wheels. Well applied detail stickers. Sponsor stickers are a little too busy or in the wrong places for the paintjob. No additional details. Overall stance is correct for Drifter/Street Tuner. Overall scale appearance suffers greatly from untrimmed body posts and antenna tube.
Leadfoot: Not much other than stickers. I do like the subtle flame…something you may see in real life.
Tenth (tied):
RC10ikb - HPI Chevy Silverado –
Details - 0.5 Details - 2
Design - 2.5 Design - 2
Execution - 2.5 Execution - 2
Total – 5.5 Total – 6 Grand Total: 11.5
Mike: Nice paintjob. No additional details. Nice overall stance. Appearance is slightly not to scale for a stadium truck but acceptable.
Leadfoot: Nice Baja truck looks. Needs more details...netting, spare tire, etc.
Ninth:
RealJDMman - HPI Ford Bronco
Details - 1.5 Details – 2.5
Design - 2.0 Design – 2.5
Execution - 1.75 Execution – 3.5
Total - 5.25 Total – 8.5 Grand Total: 13.75
Mike: Nice color scheme. The sticker on the hood is a nice touch. Body and wheel wells trimming could have been better. Front guard is to scale and appears to be a Tamiya part. No photos of dashboard. Steering wheel is too thick but acceptable. Overall stance is correct for a crawler, off-road truck. Scale appearance is good. Would have scored slightly better if there was a picture of dashboard. I cannot give points on something that I cannot see.
Leadfoot: Again, the decals need some attention. I really like the spare tire and the choice of tires.
Eighth:
Farwar - HPI Ford Mustang
Details - 1.5 Details – 2.5
Design 2.5 Design – 2.5
Execution 2.5 Execution - 3
Total – 6.5 Total – 8 Grand Total: 14.5
Mike: Nice two color paintjob. Nice wheels. Could use window tint to hide internals. Disc brakes appear to be scratch built and have minimal detail but are nice. Rear exhaust pipes appear to be scratch built and are nice but the left one is slightly off angle. Overall stance is correct for a streetcar (aggressive). Overall scale appearance is acceptable (need window tint and clean up on wheel wells).
Leadfoot: First thing that strikes me is the body is wrong for this car. Very clean paint lines, but the trimming is not so straight. The white color just doesn’t do it for me. It’s kinda blah…
Seventh:
Tri-Turbo – Tamiya 2004 Raybrig NSX
Details - 1.5 Details - 3
Design - 2.5 Design - 4
Execution - 1.0 Execution – 3.5
Total – 5 Total – 10.5 Grand Total: 15.5
Mike: Nice multi-color scheme. Design relies very heavily on Tamiya stickers. Rear wing is acceptable as JGTC and is nice. The carbon fiber looks good. Driver's seat is nice touch (even if it is a cell-phone holder). If this Tamiya kit came with wipers, why not use it? Overall stance is correct for a JGTC car. Scale appearance suffers slightly from the rough trim job on the front left wheel well and heavily on flawed sticker job. Because this entry relied heavily on complex Tamiya stickers, I noticed a lot of bubbles, misalignment and flaws. Live by the stickers, die by the stickers.
Leadfoot: Several bubbles in the decals and some were off the mark.
Sixth:
KonArtist - Tamiya NSX
Details - 1.75 Details – 3.5
Design - 1.0 Design - 4
Execution 2.0 Execution – 3.5
Total – 4.75 Total – 11 Grand Total: 15.75
Mike: Nice solid color. Mirrors and rear wing are nice stock kit items. Cutout on nose is nicely done but needs radiator grill or intercooler instead of the foam bumper on chassis. Needs intake sticker or grind out the opening on the engine intake snorkel. Overall stance is correct for Drifter/Street Tuner. Overall scale appearance suffers slightly from untrimmed body posts and rough front right wheel well cutout. Good detailing idea but needed follow through on front grill cut-out (stick something in there!)
Leadfoot: Very nice metallic blue. You could gain some points with wire mesh in the cooling vents. Light buckets would also set it off.
Fifth:
RealJDMman - HPI Nissan Sylvia
Details - 2.5 Details – 4.5
Design - 1.5 Design – 3.5
Execution - 1.5 Execution - 3
Total – 5.5 Total – 11 Grand Total: 16.5
Mike: Simple two-color paintjob. Lots of added details. Headlights appear to be stickers applied to a backing plate which was glued in place behind headlight opening. Intercooler is a piece of brushed aluminum sticker with no detail whatsoever. Roll cage is well done. Front mesh is crude (looks like porch window screen material) but acceptable. Suggest different material or laying the pattern at an angle so that it doesn't look like window screen. Rear license plate is not to scale; too small. Nice stickers on the spokes of wheels. Detail lines could be better, I suggest using Kyosho detail tape. Rear wing paintjob has fingerprints on it. Carbon fiber on front air dam, although not bad, could be better with a bit of practice. Exhaust is nice and is probably commercially available. Overall stance is correct. Appearance is to scale (except for the rear license plate).
Leadfoot: I noticed a lot of details going into the body. The black lines that were drawn for body trim lines work well for the hood, trunk, and doors, but what are the ones in back? Also, I noticed a lot of decal corners I shouldn’t be able to see.
Piggy89373
09-02-2005, 01:34 PM
And, here's the top 4 finishers (drum roll please).................
Fourth:
J!NX - Mitsubishi EVO
Details - 1.5 Details – 3.5
Design - 2.0 Design – 3.5
Execution - 3.0 Execution – 3.5
Total – 6.5 Total – 10.5 Grand Total: 17
Mike: Nice solid color. Complimentary wheels. Cleanly built with very restrained details such as mirrors and rear wing. Overall stance is correct for Drifter/Street Car. Overall scale appearance is exceptional (body posts, while present, are discreet and well-trimmed).
Leadfoot: The photo can be used in a calendar. I can’t give points for it, but it was great. The car is nice, but didn’t have much. Again, I’ll probably sound like a record player here, need some work on the lights. The decals are killing ya’ll.
Comments: Please do a photography how-to thread, you have the best photographs of anyone on the boards!
Third:
Aluma – Subaru
Detail - 3.0 Design - 4
Design - 2.0 Detail – 3.5
Execution 2.75 Execution – 3.5
Total – 7.75 Total – 11 Grand Total: 18.75
Mike: Nice two-color paintjob. Nice wheels. Lots of extra details. Scratch built aerodynamic aids are well executed. Very good scratch built/modified exhaust. Needs window tint to hide internals. Mirrors too small (not to scale). Overall stance is correct for Drifter/Street Tuner. Overall scale appearance suffers from untrimmed body posts and out of scale mirrors.
Leadfoot: Nice addition of the body panels- front and back. Gotta clean up the wheels….in a 1:1 concourse they go around with a white glove on. If they find any dirt, ANYWHERE, you get dinged for points!
Second Place:
Contender - HPI Mecedes Benz CLK-GTR
Details - 3.5 Details - 4
Design - 2.0 Design - 4
Execution 2.5 Execution – 3.5
Total – 8 Total – 11.5 Grand Total: 19.5
Mike: Simple but effective color scheme. Silver is incorrect shade for Mercedes Benz AMG factory race car. Decals are mismatched and incorrect for factory race car but are nicely applied and looks good on body shell. Lots of details. Nice wheels. Very nice slotted disc brakes. Tires are nice but incorrect for the CLK race car (even as rain tires, wrong pattern). Nice rollcage but incorrect diameter (too big). Applied mesh is of correct scale and looks good. However, mesh would be incorrect for rear NACA ducts. Brilliant use of materials to simulate fueling ports. Details such as wiper, mirrors and hood badge are nice kit (Tamiya) items. Scale antenna is exceptional and looks really good. Rear wing is a kit item (Tamiya) but is mounted in wrong angle. Suggest re-mounting or modifying to get down force and not lift. Missing lower spoiler on rear of bodywork. Overall stance is too high for a GT1 race car. Suggest mounting lower and re-trimming the wheel wells and lower panels to improve visuals. Overall scale appearance suffers slightly from incorrectly mounted rear wing and incorrect stance. Some very good detailing and super-detailing ideas but lacking a bit in execution. I realize that HPI's CLK-GTR is not as accurate (scale-wise) as Tamiya's and that you are trying to mount in onto a touring car chassis with tall shock towers which causes the body shell to sit too high. I would stick to sedans and touring car shells for that chassis or switch to a lower profile Tamiya chassis.
Leadfoot: Great ideas going on, but the seemed unrefined. I don’t know what a fuel “buckeye” is, but he added two! Another pointer for everybody…Contender added a slew of pics to show off his craftsmanship (big ups)…but the shot added to show off the roll cage revealed that the rearview mirrors are totally uneven.
First Place:
Spamcake - Protoform Chrysler 300M
Details - 1.5 Details - 4
Design - 3.5 Design – 4.5
Execution - 3.0 Execution - 4
Total – 8 Total – 12.5 Grand Total: 20.5
Mike: Exceptional multi-color paintjob (reminds me of the Gulf sponsored race cars). Outstanding scale driver figure (separate exterior detail, not mounted inside car). Very nice custom painted wheels with white lettering on tires. Overall stance is correct for Touring car/Street Racer. Overall scale appearance is slightly marred by body clips but is enhanced greatly by scale driver figure. I wish I could give more points because this is a gorgeous car, but aside from the driver figure, there are no additional details installed on car. Since the rules as written do not exclude standing figures, I gave this entry some detail points. In the future, I suggest disregarding details (standing driver and not sitting inside, pit crew, jacks or equipment) that are not part of the car when it is moving (theoretically). Of course, any removable panels or details that are removed and set on the ground to reveal further details within the car would count and receive points. It wouldn't be fair for other modelers who concentrate their detailing efforts on the car itself. Tamiya and HPI rules are similar in that no "extra figures or dioramas" are allowed. Sorry.
Leadfoot: Great paint J Nicely detailed wheels/ tires. Went outside the box to include a nicely detailed driver.
Piggy89373
09-02-2005, 01:38 PM
Congrats to Spamcake for a well earned victory! Congrats to all who entered. As you can see from the scoring, it was a pretty close contest. Having two judges from different backgrounds gave us the most well rounded form of judging we've seen in these contests. Major thanks to Leadfoot and Mikevillena for all their hard work.
If anyone has problems with how this contest was judged, contact me through PM. Leave the judges out of it, they were doing what was asked of them (and more). If you cannot understand why you scored the way you did, look again at the first post of this thread for guidelines and rules.
Spamcake and Contender: Next month will be the best paint competitions and the first time this event will be broken down into two groups: amateurs and pros. As winner and runner up for this contest, I ask the two of you to judge next month's contest: Spam judging pro and Contender judging amateur. Will you do this for the boards and its members?
mikevillena
09-02-2005, 02:18 PM
Congrats to Spamcake, Contender and to all of the entrants. A tip of the modeler's cap to you all! Thanks to LEADFOOT and to PIGGY. I was deeply honored to have assisted. See you at the next competition. :D
^j!nx^
09-02-2005, 02:51 PM
Recount! Recount! Recount! Where the ballets cleanly marked? Where the hanging chads counted! I demand a recount :p :D :p :D j/k
Opps I ment congrats spamcake!
Yeah if I get unlazy ill do a photography tut.
Farwar
09-02-2005, 03:08 PM
Congrats to Spamcake for his victory. Now to plan out my next bady for September's competition.
microrcdude
09-02-2005, 03:09 PM
NAH!!! You don't want to spend money on a real car. Spend it on R/C cars!!!! :D :D :DYeah, thats great till you flatspot a $350 goodyear on your racecar
Gojira
09-02-2005, 03:29 PM
whats this months contest
Piggy89373
09-02-2005, 03:55 PM
whats this months contest
Relax...I'm working on it. :p It's an open paint competition, but I'm refining the rules and stuff and other stuff....and more stuff.
Aluma
09-02-2005, 04:28 PM
yeah, congrats spamcake! I think there were lots of really nice cars in this months comp...I hope we get more next time.
^j!nx^
09-02-2005, 05:21 PM
in the next few months do another scale street car contest. Its what I am good at. Oh yeah and include scale photography points ;)
LEADFOOT
09-02-2005, 06:37 PM
It's open...that means anything goes ;)
^j!nx^
09-02-2005, 06:45 PM
so photography will get points also? Also how about a bike? or does it have to have 4 wheels?
MT2 owns you
09-02-2005, 06:52 PM
It's open...that means anything goes ;)
does that include my crappy, hacked up, i-forgot-to-mask-my-windows-and-used-nitro-fuel-to-take-the-paint-off-so-some-of-the-lexan-is-fogged body? its got a custom hood scoop! :D (and a custom bumper which isnt done yet too)
LEADFOOT
09-02-2005, 06:52 PM
no, lol. No photography. This is supposed to be a best paint competition. :)
C0NTENDER
09-02-2005, 09:19 PM
I just read the results. Ahhhhh, you mean I didn't win :(, hey you can't win them all :). It was just an honor to submit something this time around. I want to thank the judges for all of their feedback and I want to thank everyone who did participate.
CongraTs to Spamcake, you had a very nice looking car. great work.
^j!nx^ - I'm with you, lets make sure we do another concour's contest next quarter, lets just make sure it's not only street cars, but more like "real car" theme. Meaning a car you might see in real life be it a street car, or a car design for the track or racing.
Piggy89373 - I would be honored to judge the amateur section. I will just have to read the rules to gain some understanding on the contest and if I have any questions, I will be sure to PM you. I also want to Thank you for keeping stuff like this alive, and again to the judges for their insightful feedback. It will go alond ways with assisting others with improving their craft and it will help me win one of these events again :).
Well now I'm off to take some better pics of my CLK ( I will post within a week) then comes the hard part, trying to sell the thing. It was fun and I will see you all next time this event comes around, until then, look for my comments on the best paint job content :)
For the record, you guys are some TUFF (not tough) judges, but I like that :), keep me honest.
SpamCake
09-03-2005, 02:27 AM
Well I'm surprised, to say the least. Pleasantly of course :)
I have to thank and commend the judges for their great job in judging -- especially mikevillena for his extensive critique work.
Congrats also to all the other entrants to this edition of the contest, not only was there a long list of entries, but the judging process was quite a gauntlet. Well done all.
I'd be happy to judge the Pro class for the September competition. May I be so lucky as to have half as many entries as there were in August.
FESTER2004
09-03-2005, 02:33 AM
congrats to spamcake & contender!
and everyone who entered, u should be proud of yourself, i agree everyone did awesome work!
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