View Full Version : Universal 1/8 Scale Conversion Motor Mount
Cold Fusion
08-26-2005, 06:41 PM
After numerous requests for this, I've decided to go ahead and start producing them. First I would like some input as to exactly what you guys want. Here is the base model, which I'm currently using on our Truggy. It has a 1/2" thick base, with a 3/16" thick motor mount portion. In the bottom are 2 M5 tapped holes. It has 3/4" of motor adjustment range for different gear options. The holes are as low as possible to keep the CG closer to the chassis, but also it's high enough to allow for the largest diameter brushless motors.
So what would you like to see changed before I start making these?
That's awesome that your going to start producing these. It beats me trying to dremel out some crude mount.
One thing that would be cool is it could be installed on either side of the diff. I think I would put it on the right side others may put it on the left. Maybe it's that way already, I don't know. Other than that it looks like it could be very versatile.
I also liked your Ofna MBX diff/motor mount version, but there are probably too many diffrent diff versions out there to make that practical.
I'm looking forward to the final product.
Cold Fusion
08-26-2005, 07:10 PM
I like the MBX style one too, but I can't make it work for everything like you said. Why can't this be used on either side of the diff?
Why can't this be used on either side of the diff?
I wasn't sure if it could or couldn't.
I just meant that you could have a flush (straight) cut on both the right and left sides of the mount. That way it would be flush with the diff on either side It might make it slightly easier to produce too!
It looks like like it would work in its present form just fine though and I would buy one today.
TimisTim
08-27-2005, 12:10 AM
I would like a larger plate to bolt to the chassis so four screws could be used to hold it tight. Somehting like what I had a machine shop do for me. Heres a pic....
Cold Fusion
08-27-2005, 12:37 AM
I could do something like that, but it requires me to use thicker material and mill out a lot more. I don't know if cost will justify the extra rigidity. The 1/2" base is already VERY strong and rigid.
TimisTim
08-27-2005, 02:31 AM
Well considering you are going to be using this in 1/8 scale models there is going to be some very powerful motors hanging on it. I was worried about flex in my mount but it turns out the chassis flexes alot more than it does.
So what type of price are you expecting?
Cold Fusion
08-27-2005, 02:33 AM
$20 for the 1/2" thick base model. It would probably jump to $30 for a 4 screw base.
What about having the motor mounted above the center rear dog bone, this way the batteries can lay down the left and right side of the chassis and on the chassis and not the side guards.
http://forums.radiocontrolzone.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=51523&stc=1
Cold Fusion
08-29-2005, 12:07 AM
I don't think that would work. The motor will not be able to get close enough for the pinion to make contact with the spur without hitting the dogbone itself.
Cold Fusion
08-29-2005, 12:09 AM
You've proved me wrong! I guess the only drawback would be the higher center of gravity. What does everyone else think about this type of design?
tcolesen
08-29-2005, 09:27 AM
I don't think you could make a "universal" mount by doing that. When I made a mount like that on my buggy out of 1/8 6061-T6, it got badly bent from just minor jumps, even though I secured it in 3 different places. This sort of thing could cause a spur gear to strip (if the plate flexed/bent enough).
ducati777
08-29-2005, 11:25 AM
I don't think that would work. The motor will not be able to get close enough for the pinion to make contact with the spur without hitting the dogbone itself.
Considering a gear is round, its symmetric on all sides. Thus if you can't get close enough without hitting a dogbone from the top, you'd have the same problem on all the sides.
I really like the motor in the center design. It allows the driver to stack large symmetric battery banks on either side. Nimh batts are heavy and could help offset the high motor.
The ideal design would suppose a motor from both front and rear. Thats probably not going to happen, so the next choice is a rollbar to stop any direct hits to the motor. Its definately a more complicated design, but for someone looking for wicked cell counts and long run times, the extra battery space might be worth it.
Re-Mix
08-29-2005, 03:37 PM
Will the motor mounted up even fit under the body? I wonder about the durability issues then, leaves the motor to take damage in a roll.
ducati777
08-29-2005, 03:49 PM
True true, it'll need to be protected, and likely won't fit under a buggy body.... but on the flip side you'll have a full chasis to lay batteries on.
Anyway, the existing mount looks good. Will there be any template to help align the mount? Looks like you'll have to drill 2 new holes in the chasis, it'd be nice to get it right the first time.
Rtsbasic
08-29-2005, 05:40 PM
I would be very interested in one of these $20 mounts for my RC10GT conversion if you can come out with it fairly sharp-ish.
Ducati777, what do you mean by a template?
Cold Fusion
08-29-2005, 05:53 PM
He means some sort of guide for drilling the holes. Yes, I could provide one of those. I could have the first batch made in a week or so...
Rtsbasic
08-29-2005, 06:12 PM
Will you provide any sort of warranty if it bends, flexes etc from normal use?
Cold Fusion
08-29-2005, 06:58 PM
Sure. Free replacement if it ever bends.
tcolesen
08-29-2005, 10:15 PM
True true, it'll need to be protected, and likely won't fit under a buggy body.... but on the flip side you'll have a full chasis to lay batteries on.
Anyway, the existing mount looks good. Will there be any template to help align the mount? Looks like you'll have to drill 2 new holes in the chasis, it'd be nice to get it right the first time.
The motor will fit under the body. At least mine did when I had it like that. I have found that stacking batteries on one side, when tall enough, will cause the body not to fit.
Cold Fusion
08-31-2005, 01:40 AM
Okay, I'm going to make a quick batch of 1/2" base mounts. I've been doing some tests, and 1/2" seems to be quite solid enough for any kind of motor you can fit on a buggy chassis. Hopefully I can do them Thursday...
We'll see how well this design works, and maybe try out some of the vertical mounts in a couple weeks.
I would like to buy one of these, but only if it is is a direct fit for the Hyper 7 Pro. I should only have to drill the set screw holes in the chassis to make it work. Let me know.
Cold Fusion
09-11-2005, 11:43 PM
I've now got two 3/8" base models if anyone is interested. $15 shipped each. I am out of 1/2" material right now, but I should have some more in a week.
That's a great price. Makes it real tempting, but I think I'm going to wait for the 1/2" one.
Cold Fusion
09-13-2005, 01:15 PM
Off topic, but here are some pics of the mod one custom gears I just made for Jack Mile's world speed attempt. He needed them by Saturday, and apparently I'm the only one stupid enough to take on a rush job like this ;)
Cold Fusion
09-13-2005, 01:16 PM
Spur.
MicroDiladum
09-16-2005, 01:50 PM
Cold Fusion, are you the same guy that runs Cold Fusion Racing that produced steel diffs for the stampede?
If so, buyer beware! I ordered a stampede steel diff from CFR a while back. When it arrived much later (Postmarked 3 weeks after payment) the steel gear was pretty rusted and was sent in a plastic envelope with NO padding (Not even a little crumbled newsprint) allowing the alum casing to be badly bent. Then ignoring ALL of my e-mails about the situation, which by the way were answered a few days before concerning another issue. There are others just like me with similiar experences. I never buy or support anything from CFR. This guy doesn't run a honest program.
I wish someone would produce a similar product that was not CFR.
Cold Fusion
09-16-2005, 05:57 PM
Yes, we are the same.
I never received your emails about the matter. I've shipped many diffs, and yes, had a few complaints of rusting. I took care of all these by sending a replacement diff. It's humid down here in Houston, and evidently the cases in which I kept some of the diffs were not sealed properly.
Did your diff come from Colorado or Texas?
Cold Fusion- Does the mount come with screws, and when will the half inch be available? Thanks
MicroDiladum
09-17-2005, 02:44 PM
Yes, we are the same.
I never received your emails about the matter. I've shipped many diffs, and yes, had a few complaints of rusting. I took care of all these by sending a replacement diff. It's humid down here in Houston, and evidently the cases in which I kept some of the diffs were not sealed properly.
Did your diff come from Colorado or Texas?
Thats funny because I sent about 10 e-mails over 3 weeks to the exact same e-mail address you had responded to several times before AND from the form on your website. It is very clear you were ignoring my e-mails. Pretty bad I have to get your attention in a public forum.
Didn't look at the return address so I dont know where it came from.
Are you gonna replace my diff, which by the way I still haven't used? Would you be shipping the replacement in same manner you did before and 3 weeks later? If so I would rather not bother.
Rtsbasic
10-15-2005, 04:47 PM
Anyone got any contact details for this guy? I paid him for a 3/8 base version on the 20th sept, 3 weeks on and its not turned up (intl shipping takes around 6-10 days from US -> UK) and no email response. Any alternative email address's, or a phone number/postal address so I can get hold of the guy would be brilliant. If anyone has a phone number for them or a postal address please PM it rather than posting it here.
Cheers.
Cold Fusion
10-15-2005, 06:26 PM
I'm so sorry! I feel like a complete idiot. I've been so busy with school that I totally forgot to ship the part. It'll go out tomorrow. I also refunded your full payment as a way of apology.
Rtsbasic
10-15-2005, 06:40 PM
Thats brilliant mate, I can confirm a full refund is in my paypal account. Look forward to recieving the plate, if its nice then maybe I have some further business for you, if your not too busy with school etc. Would love to get a couple of parts machined some of my projects.
Cheers.
Cold Fusion
10-16-2005, 10:28 AM
The solution finally hit me. Now I can make these. 1/4" thick, with a 2" base portion with 4 tapped M5 screws. Happy now, guys?
Cold Fusion
10-16-2005, 11:58 AM
Can anyone tell me if the center cutout needs to be any larger? I know that lehner motors have the bearing sticking out of the can by a few millimeters, but do any other motors do this?
TimisTim
10-16-2005, 12:38 PM
The new 540C motors from Feigao also have this. I didn't have a problem on my mount but I made the hole .5" wide.
Cold Fusion
10-16-2005, 12:40 PM
Okay, this hole is already .55" wide.
I ended up making one myself that turned out similar to the your latest design. I used 1/4" angle. I tried to take out a fair bit of material to lighten it up a bit. Mine looks kind of rough though, it should do the trick. I used a drill press, jig saw and dremel to get the job done.
Cold Fusion
10-17-2005, 10:19 AM
Nice job Muck. A little rough, but as long as it works :cool:
The material has been ordered for 8 mounts. The cost per piece will be $22. You can preorder if you want, because these things will go quick. My paypal is webmaster@coldfusionracing.com
Cold Fusion
10-20-2005, 02:20 PM
Down to 5.
pcnutz
10-20-2005, 02:44 PM
22$ shipped?
Cold Fusion
10-20-2005, 09:57 PM
Yes sir.
How wide is your mount going to be? Mine turned out too wide I'm going to have to trim it down a couple of mm on each side.
Cold Fusion
10-21-2005, 01:59 AM
I'm starting from 1.5" wide stock. Depends on what the customer plans on using it for, I can adjust the width. How wide was yours?
I'm at 1 7/16. I think I'm going to have to go down to 1 1/4 to be side by side with the diff housing. That's without triming any plastic. The hyper 7 might be more narrow in that area?
Cold Fusion
10-21-2005, 02:12 AM
Probably so. 1.5" will work for the MBX. In any case, I'll make the normal mount 1.25 to make it compatible with everything.
Come to think of it I'm putting mine on the right side. There is less room on that side.
Cold Fusion
10-21-2005, 02:29 AM
If that's how I'm thinking, there is much less room that way. Do you have any more pictures?
If I trim the plastic protrusion on the center diff housing and a little off the rock guard, maybe some off the motor mount. It might just work.
Rtsbasic
10-27-2005, 05:37 AM
Just to say, my plate from cold fusion (Andrew) turned up this morning. Thanks. I'm very pleased with the construction quality, now I gotta find some screws to fit it and re-drill my chassis :)
Cold Fusion
11-07-2005, 02:29 PM
Here they are.
TimisTim
11-14-2005, 11:40 AM
Alright I just bent my mount very badly, so I need a new one. Got any of these left?
Cold Fusion
11-14-2005, 12:48 PM
Yeah, I've got a couple. Which car are you using it for?
TimisTim
11-14-2005, 01:21 PM
HPI MT2, I have to say that I am running a 540 9L and it bent a mount exactly like yours like a pretzle. A pretty decent jump and bad landing and crunch. Im glad you went to the four bolt pattern on the chassis side, if I was using a two bolt pattern I would have ripped it out of the chassi for sure. Let me know a price for the above pictured mount and I'll get back to you with a payment this weekend. I can be mailed at dynomight@gmail.com mail me there with payment info.
Thanks
TimisTim
11-27-2005, 03:27 AM
Just received my mount from CFR. First impression is it is very beefy. Don't have to worry about bending this one. Very nice overall design. The M5 screw taps are a definite plus. The only changes I can think to make are to widen the hole that the motor bearing goes through.......as it turns out I was wrong and the new feigao "C" motors and others with the protruding bearing dont quite fit. But this is quite minor as it is easily widened by hand. Second a slight more adjustment ability by making the channels for the screws and motor just a little longer, again not a big deal just a little security for it fitting all the models out there.
A big thanks goes out to Andrew, this mount is a great buy.
Cold Fusion
11-27-2005, 02:10 PM
Glad you like it. If you want, you could send it back so that I can mod the bearing cutout. The bearings must be bigger on the Feigao motors then on the hackers.
tcolesen
11-27-2005, 02:24 PM
I don't think that the size of the bearing is the problem. On the Feigao 540C motors, the front bearing protrudes forward past the mounting plate. This only needs to be accounted for in the motor plate.
TimisTim
11-27-2005, 06:32 PM
I've already bored out the bearing hole and lengthened it a little, works like a charm now. :cool:
xxangeloxx
11-27-2005, 06:47 PM
got any of those left. for a lightning 2 buggy. and a 8xl fiago motor. thanks.
Cold Fusion
11-27-2005, 06:49 PM
Sure. Paypal $22 to webmaster@coldfusionracing.com and I'll have one out in the next couple days.
Rtsbasic
11-29-2005, 03:29 PM
Cold Fusion, would you be able to make me some wishbones? Please email me rtsbasic@yahoo.com
Cheers.
Cold Fusion
11-29-2005, 03:51 PM
You've got mail.
Cold Fusion
11-29-2005, 10:34 PM
TimisTim, how about a picture of it mounted?
Re-Mix
12-02-2005, 11:19 PM
Any of these left to purchase? Shoot me an email at bdolan@mn.rr.com
Cold fusion,
You got PM about motor mounts.
Cold Fusion
01-19-2006, 10:47 AM
AHHH!!!! I'm sorry everyone! My computer crashed, and then fried a hard drive. I've been offline for quite some time because of it. My cnc machine has also been down, because all my files and software were on that machine. I know there are two people that still need their mounts shipped to them. I've finished part of Vad's order, but I still need his address. Vad, if you could cancel the paypal complaint so that it doesn't do a chargeback that would be nice. I'm back up and running, so it shouldn't take much longer. I'm also preparing to order material for another batch of 15 within the week.
AHHH!!!! I'm sorry everyone! My computer crashed, and then fried a hard drive. I've been offline for quite some time because of it. My cnc machine has also been down, because all my files and software were on that machine. I know there are two people that still need their mounts shipped to them. I've finished part of Vad's order, but I still need his address. Vad, if you could cancel the paypal complaint so that it doesn't do a chargeback that would be nice. I'm back up and running, so it shouldn't take much longer. I'm also preparing to order material for another batch of 15 within the week.
Taken care of it. I just didnt hear from you for quite a while, didnt see your posts on the RCzone forum, Its all good now. Got one of the mounts. PMed you my address.
Cold Fusion
01-24-2006, 10:57 PM
Thanks, I'll have another batch of 15 done within the week.
TypeR 126
01-26-2006, 02:31 PM
I'm interested in two mounts. Is it best to send a PayPal payment now, or to wait for an update of availability within this thread?
Thanks,
Mike
Cold Fusion
01-26-2006, 03:32 PM
It's up to you. If you don't want me skipping town with a whole $40, perhaps you should wait ;)
On a serious note, you can send the $44 to webmaster@coldfusionracing.com whenever you want. The material will be here tomorrow for the next batch.
Rtsbasic
01-26-2006, 04:53 PM
Cold Fusion,
Somewhat OT..but you used to make lexan chassis's for the Stampede apparently..do you have any pics or designs of these you could share with me? I'm interested to know how your chassis got around the flex problem.
TypeR 126
01-26-2006, 07:26 PM
It's up to you. If you don't want me skipping town with a whole $40, perhaps you should wait ;)
On a serious note, you can send the $44 to webmaster@coldfusionracing.com whenever you want. The material will be here tomorrow for the next batch.
LOL, sounds good. Payment is on it's way!
Thanks,
Mike
Cold Fusion
01-31-2006, 02:25 PM
The new batch is done. I've mailed all the backordered mounts, and will be mailing Mike's tomorrow. Thanks for being patient guys!
ScrubT
02-04-2006, 05:45 PM
What'z up Cold Fusion!!!!!!!!!!!!
Been since Dec 15, 2005............................. Have not received my motor mount yet..
paid you up front with paypal money $22 for 1 motor mount... You e-mail
January 20,2006 you will send me the tracking number when you finish making the motor mount. Well it's Febuary 4, 2006... Still no motor mount............
What the heck is going on!!!!!
Anybody else having problems.. I have been waiting very, very, patiently.
I e-mail you no response .....................:(
Re-Mix
02-05-2006, 12:00 AM
I just ordered a motor mount also, I'll check into yours as well as mine. I can contact him fairly easily. My guess is that it should be there within the next week as he finished off the batch last week.
What'z up Cold Fusion!!!!!!!!!!!!
Been since Dec 15, 2005............................. Have not received my motor mount yet..
paid you up front with paypal money $22 for 1 motor mount... You e-mail
January 20,2006 you will send me the tracking number when you finish making the motor mount. Well it's Febuary 4, 2006... Still no motor mount............
What the heck is going on!!!!!
Anybody else having problems.. I have been waiting very, very, patiently.
I e-mail you no response .....................:(
He had computer problems and lost his file for the CNC machine. I ordered (2) mounts from him. He contacted me and now I received both mounts. Took time, but he worked with me and got me the items I paid for. try emailing him directly
gokarts164@hotmail.com
ScrubT
02-06-2006, 10:15 PM
Thanks guys. He said he will e-mail me the tracking number once he is done back in January 20, 2006. Well it's February 6,2006...............................
I e-mail no response. I ordered this mount back in December 15,2005...
So what should I do now..
:(
ScrubT
02-06-2006, 11:47 PM
Looking at my e-mail records he e-mails me January 30,2006. Saying he has the materials an mill the motor mount. Then send it out the next day with usps tracking number. So it's been a week no Response...........................
No usps tracking number........................ :(
Some one help me.. I just want the motor mount I purchased. :confused:
Cold Fusion
02-06-2006, 11:50 PM
I had gotten the tracking number when I mailed it Thursday, but it got lost in the shuffle of leaving for Austin on thursday. It should show up in the next couple days, none of the other stuff I mailed that day has showed yet.
jocktheglide165
02-07-2006, 12:18 AM
can I use this in my ofna titan he he he?
Cold Fusion
02-07-2006, 12:20 AM
As long as there is room to bolt it down, yeah.
jocktheglide165
02-08-2006, 07:01 AM
As long as there is room to bolt it down, yeah.
oh let me double check fusion you still selling them? See if I can move some stuff around for it.
mysticbluebmw
02-08-2006, 10:27 AM
Have you got any more of the mounts? I have a Hyper 7 and I just ordered a Nemesis 9L (I guess someone told me identical to feigao). Let me know and I can paypal you right away. Thanks!!!
TimisTim
02-08-2006, 04:49 PM
Yeah the Nemesis's are the twin of the Feigao motors but if you think Finedesign is going to honor your warranty then think again. Next time check out www.starluckrc.com and pick up a 540C 9L, they have built in heatsinks and better KV numbers than the old style 540's for the same price.
cart213
02-08-2006, 06:23 PM
Hey TimisTim, could you post up a picture of your coldfusion mount in your MT2?
mysticbluebmw
02-08-2006, 08:23 PM
Yeah the Nemesis's are the twin of the Feigao motors but if you think Finedesign is going to honor your warranty then think again. Next time check out www.starluckrc.com and pick up a 540C 9L, they have built in heatsinks and better KV numbers than the old style 540's for the same price.
I didn't buy from Finedesign because of the warranty. I looked at Starluckrc first, but I didn't see a 9L w/ the 5mm shaft. He only had listed the 1/8" shaft. From the forum, Jaime sounds like a good guy, so I'll always keep in mind for future purchases.
Re-Mix
02-08-2006, 11:20 PM
They are essentially the same motors anyways, and starluckrc as well as rc-monster.com have lots more to offer than their sites say. You should be fine with the motor, finedesign has a bad reputation in most minds, but I don't forsee any problems with the nemesis motor. Just make sure you have a clamp for it, endbells aren't secured (just epoxied). rc-monster.com sells heatsinks/clamps which work well.
TimisTim
02-09-2006, 02:28 AM
The 540C 9L motor has a 5mm shaft. And as requested heres a pic.......
TimisTim
02-09-2006, 02:31 AM
One more since Im such a post hog.......
I have to hijack a little and talk about my newly purchased Feigao 7L! This motor screams on 4S lipo and hauls on 3S. Geared 14/52 it pulls wheelies at will. I also have a f4iracing titanium top plate but haven't had the time to mount it yet. When I do expect a plether of pics.
mpetrich
02-09-2006, 06:45 AM
Has anyone tried this motor mount in an Xray XB8? Is there enough room? Is the XB8 a good candidate for an electric conversion?
Thanks for the help,
Matt
mysticbluebmw
02-09-2006, 08:07 AM
They are essentially the same motors anyways, and starluckrc as well as rc-monster.com have lots more to offer than their sites say. You should be fine with the motor, finedesign has a bad reputation in most minds, but I don't forsee any problems with the nemesis motor. Just make sure you have a clamp for it, endbells aren't secured (just epoxied). rc-monster.com sells heatsinks/clamps which work well.
Thanks for the tip on the clamp!
ScrubT
02-12-2006, 11:05 AM
Hey Coldfusion Finally recieve the motor mount 2/8/06
thanks nice and beefy................
xhumeka
02-13-2006, 01:15 PM
I just placed my order yesterday and paypal'd funds for 2 motor mounts (02/12/06) - can't wait for them to arrive!
Cold Fusion
02-14-2006, 08:32 PM
Wow, I didn't realized how many people were interested in these things! The second batch is just about gone. Not to worry though, I've got more then enough material to hold out for a couple weeks. Thanks for the support, and your patience!
TypeR 126
02-14-2006, 11:42 PM
I haven't received anything as of yet. You wouldn't happen to have a tracking number would you?
Thanks,
Mike
SCHMACH
02-20-2006, 12:47 PM
could i get a tracking number also? snet a payment on the 13th or so...thanks
Cold Fusion
02-21-2006, 12:49 AM
The last 4 mounts that were ordered were cut tonight, and will go out tomorrow. I normally don't do tracking, because I send out so many packages that its a major hassle to keep everything straight. Now if you REALLY want it, I'll do it.
ScrubT
02-21-2006, 07:14 AM
goodluck!!
Re-Mix
02-21-2006, 06:27 PM
Here's a picture for those of you interested in what they look like. So far im impressed, looks very strong and sturdy.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v347/tikiman36/213235copy.jpg
mysticbluebmw
02-21-2006, 07:26 PM
You should be fine with the motor, finedesign has a bad reputation in most minds, but I don't forsee any problems with the nemesis motor.
Its funny, I received the motor mount from Coldfusion last week, which btw seems nice and strong, and should addd almost no weight. I also ordered some misc parts from rc-monster and starluckrc AFTER ordering from finedesign, and those showed up quickly :) , but I'm still waiting on my order from finedesign.
I never received any emails until I emailed him asking about it, and he said it was shipped 02/14/2006. Since I'm olny 2 UPS days from NY, I was concerned, and emailed him today, and now he says that battery assembly took some time, and the order is done, though no mention if it's shipped, and that he won't be there for any more emails due to going to a trade show. So I guess he lied (?) to me about shipping it, and still I don't know whats going on with my approx. $500 order, which has already been charged a while ago. :(
xhumeka
02-21-2006, 07:59 PM
Here's a picture for those of you interested in what they look like. So far im impressed, looks very strong and sturdy.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v347/tikiman36/213235copy.jpg
woah, is it just me, or does that motor mount look VERY slanty... kinda like the leaning tower of pisa! It doesn't look like the gears would mesh very well :/
Cold Fusion
02-21-2006, 08:38 PM
It's got to be the picture. All of them are cut out of 1/4" angle stock, which doesn't deviate from squareness by more then a few thousandths.
Re-Mix
02-21-2006, 08:47 PM
It's just that the buggy is slanted down in the picture. The motor mount I recieved is slanted just slightly (can't tell in picture) and I fixed that with a small washer on the top screw when I mount the motor. As you can see, it is alligned with the center differential mount.
xhumeka
02-25-2006, 10:21 PM
Got my two mounts in the mail today, and the shipment date was the Monday after the weekend I ordered it - SUPER FAST SERVICE!!!
Thanks a lot for these mounts, can't wait to get my buggy built!
Cold Fusion
02-25-2006, 11:10 PM
Now if only I could get all the orders out that fast:) What ya'll don't know is that since I'm only 16 and can't even drive my myself, it's sometimes hard to get to the post office when I need to.
xhumeka
02-27-2006, 09:44 AM
So now my question is how to best attach the mount to my chasis... does anyone have any advice before I make the same mistake someone else did?
I'm using this mount on an Ofna MBX R2 - should I just line it up by eyeballing it, then drill the holes, or is there a much better way to do this?
I've never worked with 1/8th scale before, only 1/10th scale and it's a little different!
Re-Mix
02-27-2006, 08:11 PM
It helps to have the motor installed with the pinion gear so you know where you can mount and stuff and how close it needs to be. On mine I couldn't mount on the left side of chassis because of an enormous hole for the clutchbell of a nitro motor. I have a picture of mine on the top of the page.
xhumeka
02-28-2006, 08:45 AM
On mine I couldn't mount on the left side of chassis because of an enormous hole for the clutchbell of a nitro motor. I have a picture of mine on the top of the page.
yah, that's the same problem I'm going to have :( Is that an mbx r2 as well?
SCHMACH
02-28-2006, 05:23 PM
hey fusion have you mailed my mount yet?
Re-Mix
03-01-2006, 05:53 PM
Mines an Ofna Ultra MBX Pro, basically the same thing with a tad more upgrades. They always say to mount it so the motor turns into the center, but I've researched and asked around and it isn't too big of a deal, so just mount it where you can. you could also flip it and mount it on the upper left portion of the chassis. May need to cut the chassis brace a tad.
SCHMACH
03-05-2006, 07:06 PM
anybody order a mount from fusion and not get it yet? i've emailed and pm'd him and no response yet....project is on hold till i get this mount....getting annoyed
SCHMACH
03-14-2006, 05:09 AM
hey fusion where's my mount? you've had my money for a month now
Cold Fusion
03-14-2006, 12:50 PM
Paypal should have emailed you the tracking number now.
xhumeka
03-15-2006, 11:53 AM
Well, I just starting trying to place my motor mount, and discovered not ONE SINGLE motor I have fits into the mount!!!
The center hole just isn't big enough to let any motor pass through, and I even requested a LARGER hole so that a fiegao 9L could fit, since I heard they had slightly larger tops to them.
I was just trying to place a cheap brushed motor in the mount so that I could ensure proper placement in my buggy, but again, not one single motor I tried (5 in total) fit into the mount!!
So what's the best way to enlargen the opening? I don't even have a dremel, so I'm hoping I can attach something to a drill or perhaps even an electric motor that I can use to scrape away some material.
maybe even placing a cheap pinion on a motor and using it to file away at the opening? I know, real ghetto, but I have no equipment to do this, which is why I requested a larger opening in the first place! I had heard rumours of this... :(
TimisTim
03-15-2006, 02:22 PM
Just hand file it down a little. My 540 "C" didn't fit either but a small amount of filing and it worked like a charm. You are making a mountain out of a mole hill. If you dont have the "equipment" to do this then go to a hardware store and buy a $5 file. Heck it will last you the rest of your life!
mysticbluebmw
03-15-2006, 04:08 PM
Yah, it will file down easily, like TimisTim said, a cheap nail file will work. My 9L Nemesis (which I got from finedesign and turned out to be defective), as well as my 10L feiago fit fine, but your main hole could be smaller, since this really isn't mass produced, you know.
My main problem is figuring out how to adapt a plastic spur in place of my "saw-like" steel spur in my Hyper 7. My pinions only last about 2-3 runs. Has anyone had to tackle this? Sorry if its a little off topic.
Re-Mix
03-15-2006, 04:37 PM
My Lehner Basic, Fiegao 9L and Brushed motors all fit, seems a little odd. You must have a 'C' can? Nothing sticks out on the stock cans so I don't see how you're having this problem.
xhumeka
03-16-2006, 10:24 AM
ok, cool.. thanks for the advice guys. I've never worked with this type of aluminum before so I wasn't sure how hard it would be to file away - I envisioned myself filing away for days before making any progress, but it sounds like it's an easier process than I feared.
cart213
03-16-2006, 06:49 PM
My main problem is figuring out how to adapt a plastic spur in place of my "saw-like" steel spur in my Hyper 7. My pinions only last about 2-3 runs. Has anyone had to tackle this? Sorry if its a little off topic.
Contact Mike at rc-monster.com. He can sell you an adapter that will allow you to use plastic Ofna spurs.
DMCfirestar500
03-27-2006, 04:03 PM
ColdFusion,
I was wondering if you have any of these mounts left if so I would be interested in one and could paypal you tonight. I tried sending you a PM but your box is full.
Let me know,
Pat
Cold Fusion
04-17-2006, 06:11 PM
As you know, I sold out AGAIN. This time I've ordered enough material for 75 mounts. All emails concerning mounts should be sent to mounts@coldfusionracing.com
All paypal preorders can be sent to webmaster@coldfusionracing.com. The price remains the same, $22 each including shipping.
NitroTXT1
04-18-2006, 10:17 PM
hey cold fusion i sent you an e-mail!
Cold Fusion
05-05-2006, 01:09 AM
FINALLY got the material. They took forever and a half shipping it. I'll start cutting this weekend.
Still plenty left.
NitroTXT1
05-05-2006, 05:40 PM
hey cold how many are left and also could i order 2?
Cold Fusion
05-05-2006, 05:48 PM
I've got enough material for about 70, so you can definitely get two. All the orders from the last 3 weeks are being cut tomorrow.
NitroTXT1
05-05-2006, 05:50 PM
well i just placed an order i think i'll just need one because i found another motor mount that i could use on my rc10 gt project....thanks though
Rtsbasic
05-06-2006, 12:10 PM
Cold Fusion's mounts do not work on an RC10 GT conversion, been there and tried that :( It can be mounted but not in the ideal position, due to the gap for the flywheel, stops it mounting securely.
Cold Fusion
05-06-2006, 12:13 PM
Can you get a picture of what you mean?
NitroTXT1
05-06-2006, 07:39 PM
yeah i remember you saying but i'll be using this for a different car that i have that will eventually get a high powered setup
DMCfirestar500
05-12-2006, 06:44 PM
Any word on when the next batch will be done? I prepaid via paypal on April 18th, but still havn't heard anything.
Pat
Rocksalt
05-20-2006, 06:39 PM
Any word on when the next batch will be done? I prepaid via paypal on April 18th, but still havn't heard anything.
Pat
Ditto to this question.. but I paid a little later.
DMCfirestar500
05-21-2006, 02:55 AM
Still havn't heard anything, anyone else hear any news???
Cold Fusion
05-21-2006, 03:02 PM
Yes, I know it's all late. I've been busy with school finals, what can I say? I'll try to get them done asap. If someone else wants to take over making them, that's okay by me.
Philyon
05-23-2006, 08:01 AM
I'm looking to buy your motor mont for my XB8R, is it too late ? And do you ship international, (i'm from france) ?
NitroTXT1
06-02-2006, 01:35 AM
any updates?
Cold Fusion
06-02-2006, 01:37 AM
4 of the 6 mounts due shipped out Monday, the rest tomorrow.
Philyon
06-02-2006, 08:19 AM
Great :)
Rocksalt
06-02-2006, 09:50 AM
Thank You Much For The Shipment!
DMCfirestar500
06-05-2006, 03:48 PM
Got my motor mount Saturday. The fiego 540XL end doesn't quite fit, but nothing alittle filing can't solve.
The mount looks great, but could you tell me what thread size the bottom of the mount is tapped for?
Thanks,
Pat
Cold Fusion -- can you make one for a Revo? I've done an electric conversion using an EMAXX tranny, but now I want to switch to using a Revo Transmission--which requires a custom bracket.
-Rob
Got my motor mount Saturday. The fiego 540XL end doesn't quite fit, but nothing alittle filing can't solve.
The mount looks great, but could you tell me what thread size the bottom of the mount is tapped for?
Thanks,
Pat
I think it's 4mm.
Re-Mix
06-17-2006, 12:12 PM
I figured I'd post this just to show possible layouts. Even though this mount isn't as nice as a customizable one directly tailored to a specific application, it is very nice and easy to work with. Not to mention sturdy.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v347/tikiman36/DSC00797copy.jpg
NitroTXT1
06-27-2006, 10:35 AM
well i still haven't recieved mine...has a new batch been sent out?
NitroTXT1
07-10-2006, 03:32 AM
still haven't recieved mine...has it been sent out?
justinspankey
07-25-2006, 12:03 PM
are these still being made?
Cold Fusion
07-25-2006, 12:26 PM
I'm not making anymore. As I've found out, I'm too busy to keep up with RC stuff and orders are sent late and no one is happy.
glassdoctor
07-25-2006, 01:59 PM
The only way I can see making stuff like this is to do a whole batch and have them all boxed up and ready to drop in the mail. Then hope enough sell pretty quick to recoup the production cost.
Nothing like this is a simple as it appears...
Cold Fusion
07-25-2006, 02:25 PM
That's the way to do it, except that I would probably never sell half of that large batch. Doesn't help that BOTH of my cnc mills are down right now with seperate problems.
NitroTXT1
07-27-2006, 03:24 AM
well may i have a refund? i paid in time for the last set of pre-orders and you didn't send it out
Cold Fusion
07-27-2006, 09:36 AM
Sure, what's your paypal?
NitroTXT1
07-27-2006, 10:14 PM
jayeng06@aol.com
Just joined the forum. Have a Lightening 1/8th buggy I converted to brushless.
Have made a mount similar to Cold Fusions but experienced problems with 3mm motor shafts snapping due to chassis flex causing pinion/spur relative movement (I think). Have switched my Hacker C50 to a 5mm shaft but also made up a new design incorporating the rear bearing mount for the centre diff. This means zero movement no matter how much chassis flex as the spur and pinion are mounted on the same bit of metal. The other advantage is the pinion can be mounted close to the base of the shaft (as there is no rear centre diff mount in the way)which places less stress on the shaft. Been bashing the thing now for 6 months and haven't snapped a shaft yet.
glassdoctor
08-06-2006, 11:37 PM
Welcome to the forum.
Got any pics of the mount? Making any more? If so you should start a thread about it.
Cold Fusion, is there any chance of getting a few of these, or are they all gone? I’ve got a GS Racing Storm that I want to convert to electric, and these mounts are just what the doctor’s ordered…
hey guys...if i pick up my friends buggy for cheap..lets say around 75 bucks..(hyper 7) how much do u think it would cost to get it running w/ a BL? i think i might use the novak HV bl if i do..
fasterthanspeed
08-19-2006, 09:40 PM
Hey Cold Fusion, can I have the dimensions of that mount because I would like to make one?
Cold Fusion
08-21-2006, 02:26 PM
If you guys want, what I can do is contract a cnc shop to do another run of 20. That way we're not slowed down by any personal problems of mine.
TVC, I've considered something like that, but I'll keep selling this design because it's the most universal fit-all possible.
SeerHawk
09-04-2006, 08:33 PM
Hey Cold Fusion,
Still haven't received the universal 1/8 mount since order placed in july. Any chance you could LMK what the status is or refund me?
seerhawk@hotmail.com (Canada)
pigeonfarmboy
09-08-2006, 02:27 AM
I'd like to order a mount for my MBX5. PM me your paypal address and latest availability on these.
Thanks
NitroTXT1
09-09-2006, 09:10 PM
hey i'd like to know what's goin on with my refund...seeing as you stopped making them and promised me a refund
GeeReg
09-10-2006, 05:20 PM
This is amazing....
NitroTXT1
09-16-2006, 08:48 PM
yep still waiting on a refund or even a response...nice work there man..glad that you gave open offerings and when i asked you about it you said that there were enough i paid for one of the two you said i could order and i get nothing and then I ask for a refund you said sure i sent info to you and nothing comes from it....Real good job lol that's just sad
scyan
09-17-2006, 09:56 PM
Guys, not wanting to be a vulture. But if you still need a motor mount, team fcr will be more than happy to provide you with one ! Custom for your ride !!
Prices are very reasonable and it's VERY sturdy and professional.
You can email us at teamfcr@excite.com
Thanks !
Scy
naftausa
02-25-2007, 06:16 PM
wrong 3d sorry!
g0202180
03-02-2007, 08:31 PM
I love it! I'm looking at converting my MBX4/RR and using a MM7500 combo. Any thoughts?
scyan
03-02-2007, 08:45 PM
the mamba max esc is going to be great, but not the motor.... Think about putting a smart motor in a freightliner truck... and try to haul with that... you need something much bigger. Like a feigao 8xl... plettenberg maxximum or some neu motor.
Scy
Chopster
03-05-2007, 03:56 AM
The MM motors definitely won't work in an 1/8 scale conversion. You really want something with a 5mm shaft. The MM esc with 4S lipo and a feigao 7XL or 8XL is a tough combination to beat in terms of cost effectiveness. If you have a bit of money to blow, and Lehner 1940 7 or 8 turn hi-amp would be the supreme (don't have one, but want one). I'd try to stay away from the 4 pole motors (plettenberg and neu) for now, as the MM seems to have cogging issues with those. The Feigaos and Lehners are two pole motors.
scyan
03-05-2007, 09:16 AM
I can confirm that the cogging issues seem to be only with the neu motors as the plettenbergs are soft as a baby's skin... They run like hell under the mamba max. And they have NO cogging whatsoever...
Scy
TypeR 126
03-05-2007, 12:51 PM
Well, I wouldn't say the Plettenbergs have no cogging. Mine cogs pretty consistently from a dead stop. The most frustrating part though is if you're not careful, it will go from cogging to full steam ahead instantly and flip the thing on it's back! That said, if you modulate the throttle a bit, it's not too bad, and there isn't even a hint of cog if you have even the smallest bit of forward momentum. Other than that it runs strong and cool.
I'd be curious to know what settings you run on your Plettenbergs that you don't see any cogging?
scyan
03-05-2007, 12:55 PM
I have the plettenberg maxximum with fan. For settings, they pretty much all work... I have not found one that cogged. hehehe
I'll have to look more precisely which one im using right now.
Scy
TypeR 126
03-05-2007, 01:18 PM
Ahh, could just be the application. I'm running the Maxximum in a Revo with 40 series Big Joe's. Lot's of rolling resistance there. It might not be an issue with a buggy or truggy.
FWIW, I've found the low advance setting to work best for me.
g0202180
08-09-2007, 02:58 AM
Thanks for the advice dudes! i'll check out the 7XL or 8XL motors then, ;)
The MM motors definitely won't work in an 1/8 scale conversion. You really want something with a 5mm shaft. The MM esc with 4S lipo and a feigao 7XL or 8XL is a tough combination to beat in terms of cost effectiveness. If you have a bit of money to blow, and Lehner 1940 7 or 8 turn hi-amp would be the supreme (don't have one, but want one). I'd try to stay away from the 4 pole motors (plettenberg and neu) for now, as the MM seems to have cogging issues with those. The Feigaos and Lehners are two pole motors.