looking for electric planes without transmitter

[danberg]

I'm just starting out in this hobby. Per hobby shop recommendation I purchased a transmitter (Jr 6021) it has memory to save settings for 8 different planes. It was explained that I would have "greater flexibility" in futrue plane purchases with it. The transmitter pacakage includes battery charger, battery, a receiver and 4 micro servers.

I am not interested in spending hours building planes.

Now looking on the internet, I find that all of the trainer planes come with transmitters as well as the necessary micro servers, battery and charger. Seems like all RTF planes come with a transmitter.

Is there a source for purchasing RTF planes without transmitters?
If possible, how much can I save by doing this?

Later when purchasing several different model planes, do you just throw the transmitters that come with them away?

Should I have not purchased the Jr transmitter? Advantages and disadvantages in it's purchase. Should I take it back before using it?

[aeajr]

90% of the planes you can choose do NOT come with transmitters so the opportunity is huge. Here are a few examples.

ALMOST READY TO FLY and EASY TO BUILD KITS - STARTER PLANES


Below are ARF and simple kit planes. You will need to buy a radio if you don't
have
one, so you might want to read these articles on radios. The
articles are written for sailplane beginners, but all the info applies to
electrics too.

Entry Level Radios - If you have to go cheap
http://www.rcezine.com/cms/article.php?cat=&id=44

Computer Radios - The recommended path for almost everyone
http://www.rcezine.com/cms/article.php?cat=&id=65


Below are ARFs wood and foam packages as well as some are very
easy to build all wood kits. In each case you must add your own radio,
receiver, servos, speed control, batteries and battery charger. They all come
with a
motor.

One of these flight packs will fit most of these planes:
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXGZU5&P=7
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXGZU6&P=7
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXCZX2&P=7
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXKKY1&P=7
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXGZU7&P=7

Slow stick - $35 - CL2/3
Best flown in still to under 5 mph breeze. This is an excellent choice for
people who have a smaller space to fly.
Can also be flown indoors in a gym or similar space.
http://www.gwsexpert.com/product_info.php?cPath=2_53&products_id=2
or
Slow stick Complete Package incl radio - $150
(need battery charger)
http://www.gwsexpert.com/product_info.php?cPath=56&products_id=602
The Slow Stick Info Site
http://mattsrc.rchomepage.com/ssir/index.shtml
Review
http://www.rcuniverse.com/magazine/article_display.cfm?article_id=75
Discussion Thread
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=122951
video
http://www.skrogg.com/sun.wmv

Tiger Moth - $50 CL 2/3
http://www.gwsexpert.com/product_info.php?cPath=2_53&products_id=20
or
Tiger moth Complete Package incl. radio - $150
(need battery charger)
http://www.gwsexpert.com/product_info.php?cPath=34&products_id=343
Best flown in still to under 5 mph breeze.
This is an excellent choice for people who have a smaller space to fly. Can
also be flown indoors in a gym or similar space. Cool looking little plane.
http://www.horizonhobby.com/Shop/ByCategory/Product/Default.aspx?ProdID=GWS1020
Review
http://www.backyardflyer.com/BY/articles/tiger_moth.asp

Tipsey - $55 CL 1
Remove the wing and it goes back in the box for simple
protected transport or keep in the car fun!
http://www.hobby-lobby.com/tipsy.htm
Review
http://www.hobby-lobby.com/pdf/gr6232.pdf
http://rcgroups.com/links/index.php?sid=498277416&t=article&cat=198&id=3871

Magpie - CL 2
I recommend the $55 package with two wings.
Has slow fly/trainer wing AND an aileron sport wing.
Master the first, then advance to the second.
They offer a complete package with both wings and all the electroncis for $160
Makes it so easy to get it right!
http://www.mountainmodels.com/magpie.php
discussion threads
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3502851#post3502851
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=295225
Video - slow fly wing
http://www.mountainmodels.com/Magpie.wmv
Sport wing
http://www.mountainmodels.com/MagpieSP.wmv

SmoothE - E$50 CL2
Easy to build Balsa and foam kit. Build as 3 Channel Slow Flyer
Optional 4 channel aileron trainer when you are ready
http://www.mountainmodels.com/smoothe.php
Discussion Threads
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=234349&highlight=SmoothE+build
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=205796&page=19&pp=15
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=295225
Funny video
http://www.mountainmodels.com/SmoothEsmall.WMV

Carbon Falcon ARF - $140 including servos
Almost nothing to build. This may be the ultimate take it with you plane
Folds up to almost nothing for travel or for keep in the car fun!
http://www.acesim.com/rc/p2/p2.html
Discussion
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=272229
Review
http://rcgroups.com/links/index.php?t=article&cat=198&id=4236
Video
http://www.acesim.com/rc/p2/videos.html

Frog - Foam kit CL2 - $39
http://www.foamfly.com/customer/product.php?productid=18399&cat=&page=&XCARTSESSID=04d939c11f21a1aae3acfe94b8213f09
Instructions
http://www.foamfly.com/Plans/Frog_Instructions.PDF

Dandy - $42 - CL2
Wood kit
http://www.mountainmodels.com/dandy.php
Complete package - $122
Build thread
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=359035
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=295225
Video
http://www.mountainmodels.com/dandy.wmv

Dusk Stik $40 CL2
Balsa Wood Kit
Similar to GWS Slow stick or ParkZone Slo-V in design
http://www.mountainmodels.com/duskstik.php
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=295225
Complete package with all electroncis - $112
http://www.mountainmodels.com/duskstik.php

T-IFO - $75 including Motor
http://www.flyifo.com/htmlpages/tifo.html
Complete package with radio - $275
http://www.flyifo.com/htmlpages/ordertifo.html#
Review
http://www.rcgroups.com/links/index.php?id=4117