Mamba Maxx is actually two systems

[Rtsbasic]

Just been in a live chat with Shawn Palmer from CC, apparently the new Maxx controllers are going to be broken up into two products, the Max and the Monster Max. Priced at approx $150 and $200 respectively. The Monster Max is the one that will handle 16 cells and over 100 amps of power. The specs of the $150 are still hush hush apparently.

Other useful details that came up are you will be able to program the controller similar to a Mamba 25, but more configuration options. You will also be able to update the software using free downloads from their site using the link cable. Shawn seemed very confident their new controllers won't have heat problems, although it sounds like it could still be quite far away.

Sorry if this info has been posted in another thread, but I've not read it anywhere so figured why not post it.

[tcolesen]

I was also on the chat thing, and I have been emailing Shawn. He says that right now they are working on getting a case around the electronics, but that was all he could tell me. I guess I will be finding out soon enough (I am beta testing :)). But Shawn doesn't have an ETA for the beta controllers yet.

[SpEEdyBL]

I'm actually glad to hear that there will be two different units. That gives non-monster truck people a chance to save money. $150 sounds nice for the smaller one (if it can handle 80 amps or so). I hope they can both handle brushed motors. Then you'll have a u-force competitor for $130 cheaper!

[danhfvcsd]

i hope they use a better way of programming than the mamba 25 - i hated having to keep hitting "no" through all the options - when all i wanted to do was adjust the voltage cut off...

they need a better way to adjust single things - otherwise the program options up the end are a pain in the ass, cause they take so long to get to - especially if they have even MORE options than the 25 did....

just personal opinion tho i guess - i'd rather be running than waiting for the right program to come up so i can adjust it etc ya know?

[tcolesen]

danhfvcsd - You do know that the Mamba 25 is computer programmable, right? The new Mamba controllers will be computer programmable as well, but with more programming features than the Mamba 25.

[danhfvcsd]

yeah, but i never got the link for it -lol-

But what if you wanna change settings out on the field/track wherever u are? :) That's kinda the only thing i was thinking of - not like everyone has a laptop they can take with em ya know? -lol-

But yeah, i guess if ya leave it always on same settings and get the link it doesn't matter....

[Bad Ash]

I also was in the chat with palmer tonight, it was interesting to talk to him. I didn't get to ask any questions because everyone else was asking them for me :D

I did like how shawn was saying that the mamba was more advanced than the novak and lrp/reedy because the software is better :D He woudln't admit to the fact that the mamba systems are focused towards bashing and the novak and lrp/reedy are focused towards racing the main difference between a sensor and sensorless setup. And then he just came right out and said yes, if you over gear this setup you will damage the motor and your batteries but the esc will be ok because it has better software than the novak and lrp/reddy setups :D Sooooo. he just said why novak and lrp/reedy are better!! Because you can abuse them and they will shut down "go thermal" if the temps go above what is set in the software because they are sensored. The mamba max setups will just smoke your batteries and your motor. So I'd take that into consideration when looking for this system. Do you want to bash or do you want to race?

It was a good time and alot of questions were asked and shawn did a great job on saving face for castle creations!

[glassdoctor]

I don't need the controller to save my batteries or my motors. The important thing is that it doesn't melt down itself. If you blow up batteries or motors it's a bad setup and you shouldn't blame the esc for not saving your ash. ha ha ha....

I just wish they would hurry and get the things done!

[A4DTM]

bad ash, did you not see the completely melted novak controller? I wouldn't say the novak/lrp setup's better because if you set it up wrong, the motor and batts won't go to hell.. the mamba will be more diverse with motor choice, and cell counts, so there's more room for error in trying to push too many volts through too little a motor, or ect. the mamba will be more versatile, which will always make more room for user error..

[Rtsbasic]

It was a pretty good discussion, I didn't like the way he skirted a couple of questions, but overall CC should be proud to have him representing them. He gave out more information than I thought he would which is cool.

To me getting the correct setup so you don't harm your batts/motor is the drivers problem, not the controllers. Sensored has a small advantage of knowing the motors temp I think? But as long as the controller has a thermal cut off to protect itself, the rest is up to the driver, just like it always has been.

[jocktheglide165]

cant wait a little more power than the novak hv, but yet just as easier friendly setup thats what Im all about the easy setup.

[tcolesen]

If you have a Novak/LRP setup that is overgeared, it IS going to thermal. It is just like that with sensorless motors, except that there is no protection. Also, a sensored system can't save your batteries, unless the rotor is in a locked position and the locked rotor protection kicks in. Sensorless doesn't have that, so that is the only way a battery could be damaged.

[MacII]

Where was/is this chat? Is a log available?

Thanks,

[tcolesen]

It was on yesterday from 3-5pm PST on TRCZ. It was a chat with Shawn Palmer, one of the more important guys that works at Castle Creations.

[MacII]

TRCZ - The RC Zone? I went to radiocontrolzone.com and didn't see any reference to it, upcoming chat or past chat...sorry, I'd really like to read the log and be ready for any upcoming events, sounds like a great idea.

[Rtsbasic]

It was over www.The-RC-Zone.com - I'm not sure if they have a log of it or not.

[havy]

Shawn is an excellent representative of CC w/o a doubt. Great guy to deal with. If he can't say something though (because its hush hush, he won't). It's been over a year that I know of that CC has been playing around w/ a bigger scale controller for cars (believe me, he told me of some of the experiments). I had also talked to him about several motors when I was considering my intial set-up for 1/10 BL and he was familiar w/ most if not all the motors first hand :p . So saying this, I would expect nothing but the best from CC, and I'm sure they will be a dominant force in RC car BL racing. I don't mind if they don't bother w/ the DC motors, since going BL, I haven't even entertained the idea of test a DC motor on my U-Force.

Havy