Kyosho Lazer ZX-5 4WD off-road buggy

[StevePond]

http://www.rccaraction.com/pics/kyosho/lazerzx5.jpg


Kyosho has released a new top-of-the-line competition off-road buggy, the ZX-5. It's hard to see any details with the body on, but it appears this buggy, like the touring car, includes a shaft-drive system with components from the FW-05R nitro touring machine. If so, the efficiency of the shaft drive system, the bullet-proof diffs of the nitro car, and the wide variety of diff options that already exist should make this a tough competitor in the 4WD class. No word yet on price or availability.


Thanks to Judge for the tip

[Racer Rob]

Hope it makes it to the states. Looks like it could be a nice machine.

[Cain]

Holy crap! Looks like 4wd could be making a big comeback!

[Fantom 15 gt]

wow now that is nice!

[anothermbdusted]

dang thats a sweet looking 4wd and im with you cain i hope this makes the 4wd class more popular

[ExtremeDuty]

The ZX is fianlly.... :D
I have been waiting for its resurrection since it's death of mid 90's.
Well, I could be wrong 'casue I heard Japan still had ZX series all time while U.S. didn't get any due to lack of market interest...

[Cain]

I am excited to see this come here if it does. More options the better. Can't wait to see a final spec and pic of the Academy SB Pro also.

[RichieRich]

I want one! This one looks fully hopped up with carbon fiber and threaded shocks. I wonder if they will make a base version and a modified version? I hope it makes it here to the US.

[StevePond]

The information I have is that this is a protoype that was raced in the JMRCA Nationals in Japan. I would like to see this one make it to production. I think it would be a good car. We'll see...

[kanevil]

1/10 4WD is definitely coming back, and I cant wait!!!

[YR4Dude]

Speaking for my other colleagues on the Lazer ZXR thread, we are all happy to see the Lazer make a come back to the RC world.

I and many others have been faithful to this wonderful 4whl car that was much ahead of its time when it was released. I am hoping that it would be priced reaonable with other 4WD kits out there so that it can gain popularity among the masses.

However, despite the recent success of Academy buggy, we should NOT expect the Kyosho to be priced the same. For all of us who are fans of Kyosho products, we all know of the quality and durability Kyosho builds into their competition kits (ie V One series, FW-05, Kanai buggies, etc). So lets all not get sticker shocked if the kit rolls around the 300-400 price range. :eek:

But, if it hits $600 like the last time, you'll know that the extra money isn't going into Kyosho's pocket!! :mad: Lets hope the distributor doesn't mess it up for this buggie's chances to make to your local track. ;)

[Cain]

Academy did give a kick in the pants on the price side of things with the price for there budget 4wd vehicle. I wonder how low they will go with the Pro?

If Kyosho can keep it around the price of the Losi and include a oneway system as well, I think it will do quite well in the US Market. There is a demand here, just need more options to spark the interest.

[RichieRich]

However, despite the recent success of Academy buggy, we should NOT expect the Kyosho to be priced the same. For all of us who are fans of Kyosho products, we all know of the quality and durability Kyosho builds into their competition kits (ie V One series, FW-05, Kanai buggies, etc). So lets all not get sticker shocked if the kit rolls around the 300-400 price range. :eek:

But, if it hits $600 like the last time, you'll know that the extra money isn't going into Kyosho's pocket!! :mad: Lets hope the distributor doesn't mess it up for this buggie's chances to make to your local track. ;)


It will not surprise me if the price is crazy. Remember the old Optima Mid and Turbo Optima Mid? There were very expensive at the time. I believe the Turbo sold for well over $300 back in 1990 or so. Hopefully Towerhobbies doesn't overprice the buggy. They haven't had a good run in a while. Tower priced the new Ultima RB pretty high unless you got it when it went on clearance. (Which I did. :) )

[MaximumF350]

Carbon fiber chassis? Will that work for off-road racing?

[losiguy1090]

unless its like 5 mm itd prolly crack under any jump over a foot. when i saw this forum, im like oh crap kyosho is already coming out w/ a new 1/8 buggy :rolleyes: lol looks pretty nice

[sosidge]

Carbon fibre works fine as a chassis.

Great big holes around the edges because the body is from an old design car don't help though... Get ready for plenty of post race cleaning with that prototype!

Kyosho have a good looking shaft-drive chassis there - gearboxes look like the FW-05 - wonder how heavy the whole setup is though...

[robert L.]

yea...carbon fiber works fine...look at the BJ4

[StevePond]

unless its like 5 mm itd prolly crack under any jump over a foot

Where do you get this stuff?! Woven graphite chassis plates have been used for years in off-road and they're very effective and durable.

[NitroBoy24]

Looks like 4wd buggies are getting a lot more popular :)

That graphite chassis looks awesome..Man I like graphite :D

[losiguy1090]

steve, well ive never seen an offroad w/ a woven graphite chassis and ive read that onroads w/ woven chassis are prone to getting tweaked so i just assumed. my bad :(

[Beniscool6]

forget all this garbage w/ mini cars, race cars are where all the funs at. this car looks pretty bad ass and the closest think to a associated (that i could actually buy)

[kevbot]

here's pics of it with the body off. it looks NICE to me.

http://homepage3.nifty.com/ksrclifestyle/kyoshoproto.htm

whoever could read that, if there's any info on a release date on there, tell us.

[losiguy1090]

wow! looks awesome. but hopefullly it wont be priced like all the other kyoshos :rolleyes: :p

[Cain]

One thing I wonder is how they handle adjusting the slipper. Is it externally adjustable without having to remove anything? The thing I like about the Academy is once you loosen the top deck you can flex the chassis alittle and it will come out with the way I have it set ( if you do it the stock method, you don't have to do anything to get it out, just pull the shaft out ).

This could sell and there would be a market for it if they can keep the price reasonable.

[docman2]

One thing you can count on with Kyosho is the price will be way too high. They always are. You have to wait a year or so for the thing not to sell(because of price) before you can catch it from Tower on inventory reduction as stated earlier. Its really a shame they always price themselves out of the market.

[Cain]

agreed on that. I was looking into there KX-One as something different sedan wise as I heard it actually was pretty good, but the price at the time was way too high for what I was willing to pay. Took a look as they were clearing them out and they had them marked down to $100. if the parts weren't so costly, I would have picked it up.

[anothermbdusted]

It is KYOSHO プロト of rumor! Shaft drive 4WD off load car. The slipper - it is the clutch and center one-way equipment!

They are around the front. Those of "FW05" of GP touring are used for the gear box.
Ball connecting type is used in the suspension holder.
The suspension arm, the hub carrier, ZXS whose reliability is high - using the steering arm those of EVO. Durability is high, is!

It is the photograph of the chassis section. The battery on front and back has become movement possible by changing the position of the battery post.
It has hidden in the shade of the upper deck, but the propeller shaft is dry dock bone type. Don't you think? is because is not spoiled the chassis roll. The blue alumite caught.
Chassis width is tight very. Still because of prototype the battery slot and the motor slot have remained in only NC processing.
As for motor helicopter loading site right side. Don't you think? is in order to deny the counter torque of the motor.
Don't you think? it is main current of the recent shaft drive car. The slipper of double disk type - equipping the clutch in the spur-gear section.
This part, still being to be development stage, when there is modification schedule, was thing.

Equipping center one way on front gear box side.
Both the center shaft the blue alumite catching, it increases! カッコイイ! !

It is the photograph around the rear. Those of hobby show the diff. cup were デルリン, but this is the steel make!
Approximately also as for the upper arm adjustment of height is possible. Furthermore you installed and several places there was also a position.
This, ZXS - using the suspension arm and the rear hub those of EVO. Don't you think? approximately also as for direction it is opposite.
Don't you think? method of installing the wing stay is unique. With changing the thickness of the color between the damper stay
Front and back position of the wing stay can be adjusted. In addition, also the low new wing stay is in the midst of developing when.
In addition, reinforcement had entered into the damper stay.

The additional plate was installed in the rear hub. Furthermore you acquire rod installation position outside and have become the れ る way.

It is the photograph from front top. Fine control the camber change quantity with changing the height of the upper rod.
Don't you think? the damper case recently is スレイテッドタイプ of popularity.
Using the steering linkage those of アルティマ. With plate system it has been gone.
It is designed in such a way that Ackermann can adjust with the rod of center.
In addition, "KX - the plate of ONE" has been added to the steering arm.

It is the photograph from true rear. Approximately also it has become the suspension holder of the type which is inserted from front and back.
ZXS - Also EVO is this type, but this one has improved setting width of the underside markedly.
Also the stabilizer had tested the thickness of several types.

We want this machine marketing quickly and converting don't you think? is! !


You participated in "ヨコモ off load championship" of the other day, "KYOSHO プロト" of the Mikame player
撮 And others you could point to the photograph.
The body is well-known BRG. Super カッコイイ! !

Basically 2 3 the machine it seems that is not the change.
Are those where it is conspicuous probably the motor heat sink?
Also running was splendid, acceleration and the corner ring speed which shaft drive seem impressive!

[robert L.]

ooh man that is SWEET!!!...wonder what the price will be....i hope the sales for this are good so maybe AE will decide to get in the market....now theres gonna be some new competition for Losi ;)

[relayer]

Wow! There's a lot of new threads about this car all over the net.

I've got a few pics if anyone wants them. They got 2 or 3 of the prototypes in to the A-Main of this years Japanese Nationals, which also contained a few of the old Lazers, which are still competative in their native country.

[Pro3/nmt105]

Get the car direct from HK or Japan and it will be much cheaper. Tower (Great Planes) is the only US distributer of Kyosho so they price everything up alot.

[tarheelquality]

There is no reason it couldn't be priced competitively, If Kyosho can do it with Nitro then it can happen with electric. Just have to get Great Planes(Tower) to behave.

[psbarger]

Whats the issue on price? Unless its more than the BJ4 ($450, now, soon to be $500), I don't think it'll be that outragous. Gotta pay the price to play with the best.

[tarheelquality]

I dont see a lot of BJ4s around here, 450 for an electric car is a bit high, 250-300 is reasonable. Price it around the same as the Losi and people will buy, price between the XXX4 and the MRC car and it will sell like crazy because no one does quality like Kyosho. What they really need to do is what they did with the original Optima put out a good base model at a reasonable price that can be raced then a top of the line maxed out one for the hard core. In the 80's the base Optimas were not that much higher than 2wd and the Turbo was only a small step up from the RC10 or Turbo Ultima.

[tarheelquality]

If you want Kyosho to bring this here fill out one of their suggestion forms here http://www.kyosho.com/suggestion.html . maybe with enough response we will finaly get the good stuff here.

[relayer]

If your interested, i posted a few more pics on the Lazer thread on this forum. More to come too!

[mwcet8k]

unless its like 5 mm itd prolly crack under any jump over a foot.
You're way wrong there. My first "real" R/C car was an RC10 Graphite. It was based on the original RC10, except that it had a SINGLE deck woven graphite chassis. It was basically just a flat piece of carbon fiber with the front end kicked up and it was rock solid.

[losiXXXman]

Exciting development, cannot wait to see if it makes it here to the states..

[RCMadMatt]

That's a lot better looking buggy than the Losi XXX-4 buggy IMO. Gonna have to try it out eventually. :D

Matt

[Cain]

I have seen the BJ4x4 up close and running and it performs. For those who want it all in one shot, the BJ4x4 has it there . Losi does have competition right now, from the BJ4x4 and the Academy SB. Thing is getting the great drivers behind the wheel to duke it out with the Losi guys. But at the local track level, these buggies have been turning heads. The Kyosho if they release it here should do the same. I just hope this 4wd Revival keeps up.

[tarheelquality]

The only problem with the BJ4 is it cost almost as much as a 1/8th buggy. If they would get the price down to that of the Losi there would be some real competition, and as great as the SB sounds it dose not have good distribution out here on the East coastthat I can find, maybe the West coast is different but you can't even find it listed at any of the online stores.

[RichieRich]

tarheelquality - Man, you only pop out when they're is a Kyosho thread. :) :p Anyways, I totally agree. I actually signed up for the BJ4 and the price was just too much. You can purchase nearly 3 SB Sports for the same price.

[Cain]

I am currently ( moving this weekend ironically ) on the east coast. You can contact your LHS and ask them to order it for you from MRC. as far as online mail order, best place I have seen it has been ultimatehobbies but you have to call them. Goes for $145 shipped to your door.

The BJ4x4 has some additions that if added to the losi makes the prices closer together from what I understand, but it doesn't come with any tires. And I know people will say that you probably will ditch them but that should then be reflected in the price. Tires can run you about $20 bucks for a set, any little bit helps. But if pure performance out of the box is your thing, you won't be dissapointed with it. The SB needs a few things but hopefully that all will be addressed with the Pro.

The Kyosho if they can keep that price down can gain a following for sure. I hope they do come out with a team version of this, would go a long way towards gaining interest in the vehicle.

[FLYBOY7]

dont' forget to order wheel bearings, real shocks, and the upgrade motor mount when you order an Academy... this brings the total of the MRC to about the price of the Losi... do not even think the SB Sport is in the same league as a Losi bone stock... you are going to have to dump at least a C-note in upgrades to be even be runable...

[tarheelquality]

Richierich,
I pop out on the Kyosho ones because I still have a Turb Optima and have had a total of about 5 different optimas and a Lazer and still think they are awesome cars. You know you never forget your first love! Also it just seemed that in '91 when I joined the Navy Kyosho was stil at the top in Electric and then 5 years later when I tried to get back into RC Kyosho had disappeared from electric off road Competition in the US, found out later that they were still going ok overseas but nothing here. I realize alot of that may have had to do with exchange rates but I still hated to see it ad would love to see them back in Electric off road. Besides I have owned a couple of Losi's and they just did not apeal to me except maybe the Rally Weapon which was just pure fun. I have alwasy liked the Kyosho and Tamiya cars, they just seem to put some of the little extra touches into their manufacturing that appeal to me.

[tarheelquality]

I do wish it was belt though, nice simple single belt would be nice, seems eveyone is going Shaft now but Losi so I guess it is a forlorn hope.

[silly_boi]

well, i'd hope it's a belt too.. i was hoping for a development of KX-One, not a all new sedan with shaft (like everyone else).. guess it's just the trend to have shaft now.

[relayer]

silly boi,

I got some pics of a n off road KX one which is superb - but for some reason I can't attach pictures on this thread only??

[RichieRich]

Richierich,
I pop out on the Kyosho ones because I still have a Turb Optima and have had a total of about 5 different optimas and a Lazer and still think they are awesome cars.

They are awesome cars. It's funny though, I put my Turbo Optima next to my SB Sport and then I realized how far 4WD technology has progressed: more efficient drive trains, better suspensions and lighter materials. It really is amazing.

[relayer]

Errr...careful about that "more efficient drivetrains" remark.

It is only the improvements in materials that has improved the quality and efficiency of r/c cars in general. Remember all the various drive train, chassis, and suspension configurations have all been done many times before, sometimes better designed than current cars, however the poorer quality components have meant that those earlier designs were never realised properly.

And I've got plenty of pictures to prove how old some ideas are... ;)

[RichieRich]

Errr...careful about that "more efficient drivetrains" remark.

It is only the improvements in materials that has improved the quality and efficiency of r/c cars in general. Remember all the various drive train, chassis, and suspension configurations have all been done many times before, sometimes better designed than current cars, however the poorer quality components have meant that those earlier designs were never realised properly.

And I've got plenty of pictures to prove how old some ideas are... ;)

No, I mean exactly what I said. I was comparing a Turbo Optima to an SB Sport. A Turbo Optima has 6 gears in the transmission plus a finicky chain. To me, more gears means more places for loses due to friction. No doubt that there have been configurations that were ahead of their time, I've seen them all from hyperdrive's pinion/spur belt combo to Kyosho and Losi's externally adjustable diffs to A&L's trailing arm suspensions to Tamiya's original 3 gear transmission in the sand scorcher and related buggies. Some innovations caught on and a bunch just disappeared.

[relayer]

But you are comparing two different types of drivetrains there, plus the Optima is a terrible example of a good chain drive.

Compare the SB Sport with the SG coyote, it's the same transmission, the Coyote just loses out in the materials it uses such as a steel centre shaft instead of the newer alloy or carbon types. Losi's XXX4 is an example of a modern car with a transmission design much worse than previous single-belt cars, like the KX One, PB Mini Mustang, and the earliest of them all, Hirobo's 44b range.

[thijs]

The chassis looks like the version they've used on the latest worlds.
You can't see it very clear, but I hope It looks like it, 'cause that's a fine looking chassis.

Looks like Kyosho did A good job, I hope it's going to win some races so it puts itself in the picture. It's worth it!

[RichieRich]

But you are comparing two different types of drivetrains there, plus the Optima is a terrible example of a good chain drive.

Compare the SB Sport with the SG coyote, it's the same transmission, the Coyote just loses out in the materials it uses such as a steel centre shaft instead of the newer alloy or carbon types. Losi's XXX4 is an example of a modern car with a transmission design much worse than previous single-belt cars, like the KX One, PB Mini Mustang, and the earliest of them all, Hirobo's 44b range.

Ok, I understand you are pointing out the technical irregularities in my statement. So, let me restate it with footnotes:
In general, my point is that since 1988 when the Turbo Optima came out 1, 4WD buggies have had more efficient drive trains 2, better suspensions 3, and lighter materials 4.

1) Meaning, encompassing all 4WD buggies released since the inception of the 4WD electric buggy.

2) In this case, I am comparing the transmission of an Optima series car to an SB Sport. Technically, they do not have much in common with their drive train, though they are both 4WD electric buggies.

3) Again, comparing suspension design. Here, drive train configuration doesn't matter. Suspensions are easier to adjust, and next time you look at an Optima series car, check out the fron suspension and the cast knuckles. Note the pivot points compared to a newer buggy. Suspenion arm length has grown dramatically.

4) Finally, same comparison. Older buggies cars have less "exotic material" than the newer buggies. Carbon fiber parts, carbon composite plastics, titanium turnbuckles, machined gears, and machined aluminum. Back in the 80's no one had titanium turnbuckles. Aluminum parts were stamped. Suspension parts were "glass-filled" nylon. Very flexible.

I hope I have clarified myself properly. So, in conclusion, I can't wait to see if the Lazer ZX-5 is going to be sold in the US. I am a huge Kyosho fan and would like to see more variety in the 4WD class.

[rc411]

Forgive me for being retarded at the moment, is this a buggy to compete with Losi's 4wd xxx-4? If so... its about friggen time kyosho came back!!! Now what about the 2wd buggies, when do we see a new version that comes alive?

[tarheelquality]

I agree about the technology has come a long way, I would have liked to see kyosho do a buggy with the drive train from the kx-one and a good off road suspension. As far as 2wd from everything I have heard the last Ultima was pretty close just needed the support that other brands get and the price points.

All that being said I just hope the new Lazer makes it here, maybe they could resurrect the Optima name to import it to the states.

[relayer]

I personally think that Kyosho's Triumph could still be a race winner :eek:

I have a new one at home (I collect vintage r/c cars) and there is no reason why it wouldn't be competative today.

I hope they do release the new off roader (plus the new tourer), I would certainly get it because there needs to be more variety in the buggy classes, I think this is part of the reason Touring cars is so popular, even though most TC's perform the same, the fact that you have such a large variety competing makes this class very interesting.

[RichieRich]

relayer - I have a Triumph too. It runs very well, though the shocks are a bit soft. Probably because I used the kit oil so they need to be tuned with better stuff. What other cars do you have? You can see my buggies by clicking my homepage in my profile.

[relayer]

Richie- Yeah the shocks are the weak point of the Triumph - by that stage AE and Losi had better shocks. but you'd have to agree it's got a great gearbox. I've had all the competition cars over the years, and have built each one with the same care, and I can say that nothing compares to the speed you can pull out of the Triumph gearbox :) The only gearboxes that are close are the Cougar 2 belt drive and the Tamiya Dynastorm.

Checked you home page :cool: - I'm a member of the Tamiya club too, but I don't have my cars posted there. I don't have a lot, but what I've got is rare!

How about a brand new Hirobo Tomcat, or a Playtron Lynx 4wd, or my new work in progress, a Nikko Works Edition Brat 4wd. My favorite is my new Nichimo Luminous 4wd. I've got some pics somewhere on the net, I'll try and post a link to them :)

[relayer]

Here is the Triumph, Tomcat, and Luminous:

http://www.rc10b4.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/905/sort/1/cat/all/page/1

http://www.rc10b4.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/910/sort/1/cat/all/page/1

http://www.rc10b4.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/911/sort/1/cat/all/page/1

[Zod]

it's nice to see Kyosho making a comeback , but unfortunatly it's gonna cost too much to maintain , don`t get me wrong i want them to sell this car here , i still race MY LAZER ZX-R , and i won a couples of races with it against losi cars , to new one looks stronger , more up to date with the curent breed of 4wd cars,let`s hope they don`t mess this one up again (lazer zx-s) :)

[RichieRich]

Pretty slick Triumph, there.

[Cain]

So any more news on this one guys?

As for dropping a C-note on the SB to get it to racing specs with the Losi, I raced my SB, and didn't drop a C-Note to get it to racing specs with the Losi. $10 for wheel bearings, Cam mod so you don't need the aluminum one ( free with a dremel, or $10 for a cheap dremel ), $30 full set of B4 shocks ( KPRC I believe ).

[T/Losi]

Can't wait for that to hit the shelves and especially the track.

Cheers

[Cain]

I look forward to racing against all the various 4wd buggies that are out there now. When you have a class with alot of different chassis types you are racing with, its much more fun than say 1 type of chassis or even two.

[ChevyManDan77]

looks like something to give the xxx-4 some serious trouble

[JohnSheridan]

I do wish it was belt though, nice simple single belt would be nice, seems eveyone is going Shaft now but Losi so I guess it is a forlorn hope.

They actually did make a new 4wd BELT prototype last year but i guess it never went into production!!... I posted it here some time ago before they changed this forum im not sure if its still here..

[winning edge designs]

Beniscool6, We (J concepts) are doing another run of the BJ4 to meet the demand......So, the 4wd class will really be heating up now with the big K getting back in the mix, hopefully?

If they keep it under $500 they will do well with it loaded up as shown of course.......Jim

[xb3Guy]

um with mark pavidis going to team kyosho i hope they come back into electric off road racing and soon i hope i have the ultima st type r still race it love it hope to see more new kyosho cars and trucks

[tarvymoto]

A world title is the plan. What is the date of the next World Championchip? My quese is that Kyosho will have it out in ample time to compete.

[minijosh]

Has anyone found a place online to buy one???

[Cain]

I would suspect that if this comes to the states that tower hobbies could be a place to get it. I wonder though how much parts are going to be.

[namsjun]

I hope zx series famous once more...

[windellmc]

Kyosho is opening a US distributor. The reason that Kyosho stuff is so expensive here is because Great Plains is the only distributor. They jack up the prices. In Japan Kyosho stuff is very reasonably priced and maybe even cheap. A 777 SP1 is ~$500 in a Japanese hobby shop. With the new Kyosho distributor their prices should be competitive with everyone else.

[sugs]

Well that would be great. I've always wanted to try Kyosho stuff but the price has always sent me looking elsewhere.

[metalry101]

Come on Kyosho....I want this buggy. I've been dying to get a good 1/10 4WD off-road...but I don't want to have to mail order parts. The Academy buggy looks great...but their distribution is so limited that getting parts is mail order only for me...and I work in a hobby shop. I'll probably buy it even if it is 400 bux, as 4WD electric off-road is the greatest thing ever in my book (as evidenced by my E-Maxx, Twin Force, RC18T, RS4 MT, RS4 Rally, and Tamiya F-150) :D :D :D :D :D :D...

Go Kyosho...get this buggy out...and preferably w/ good parts availability and a reasonable price. I don't want a RTR version for myself (building a kit is the only way to go for me), but offering one at a reasonable price (even if it is an all plastic and steel "strip model" (like AE's RTR B4 and T4)) would help sales tremendously. We sell a ton of Stampedes, Rustlers, and Evaders because they're inexpensive, well made, and a helluva lotta fun. If people want 4WD they've gotta jump up to an E-maxx or one of the Tamiya buggies (that we don't really sell...and honestly...that's a good thing...they're cool...but Tamiya has too many freakin cars...so parts are a nightmare...and they don't come w/ bearings or quality electronics...and aren't really upgradable)...

Neways...the point is that Kyosho really needs to make this buggy...at least I think they do. I know I want one, and I'll buy it regardless of price, but if it's reasonably priced, I'll sell a whole lot more of them to customers.

[relayer]

With Pavidis on the team (plus another rumoured top US driver) there seems no doubt that Kyosho are planning a big comback in electric. both off road and touring cars.

The ZX5 prototype has already had success, with a couple making the A-Main at last years Japanese Nationals.

[Cain]

Will be nice to have another addition to 4wd e buggy racing. If you are looking for a class to run that isn't defaulted to just two vehicle types in the USA, this could be for you. Just need a class seperate from full out mod to make it work. Maybe 19 turn as the 4wd stocker.

[YR4Dude]

What is the latest on this car? When is it coming to the U.S. or when will it be available? I've checked the Kyosho website and there is no word about this car at all.

[Mr. Schumacher]

Don't know why Kyosho always stick with those Lazer arms... New car with old arms??? Hopefully they will put more effort on the production ones.

[TMaxxBenny25]

Can the carbon fiber chasis hold up to off road racin???

[ZeroMax]

looks like all news has disappeared, i once looked forward to getting one

[jeepinator2]

Why does Kyosho tease us so?

[microrcdude]

Can the carbon fiber chasis hold up to off road racin???
Research that.

[Windsorguy99]

Considering that this car wa based on their prototype touring car which has apparently been scrapped as Cyrul, Lemieux and the rest of the Kyosho team develop a new (reportedly) belt drive car....this off-roader may have died on the table :(

[jeepinator2]

Ah, so perhaps this is not correct:
Kyosho has released a new top-of-the-line competition off-road buggy, the ZX-5

[mgtmadness]

Carbon fiber chassis? Will that work for off-road racing? CF chassis will work fine for off-road.Yokomo used to use them all the time in the 4x4 buggies.

[kevbot]

i'm still waiting for one =|

[Cain]

So, any more news on this?

[chris1]

What is going on with the new buggy?

[Zod]

I hope that they will bring this car here with a good competitive price
were still waiting for info

[Cain]

Here is the latest 4wd from Kyosho at the '05 Japan Hobby Expo/Show

http://www.teamjoybox.com/shs05/shs05115.jpg

[kevbot]

where'd all the anodized aluminum and CF go? heh if anyone can translate that, please do =X

[chris1]

Ssssswwwweeeeettttt!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[cwginkc]

I would take the plastic tub version over the CF plate chassis anyday. Less expensive, more durable and no undertray.

[tallyrc]

where'd all the anodized aluminum and CF go? heh if anyone can translate that, please do =X
hopefully gone in order to bring us a car that we can actually afford and make feasible to bring into the US..

man that thing looks earily like the yokomo mr4-bc but shaft drive.. weird

[metalry101]

AWESOME!!!! Hopefully that will be available here...and hopefully it will be soon.

[Cain]

agreed here tallyrc. I think that is what is hurting 4wd from really exploding right now is more vehicles in a reasonable price range to go with. 4wd needs those really high end vehicles to statisfy the high dollar driver out there, but you also need the more affordable kits to bring in guys who are interested in the class but aren't hardcore racers willing to drop $500 on an electric kit when they see they can get a 1/8 scale buggy RTR for less.

I am glad MRC / Academy has the SB in 3 versions right now to satisfy the cheaper but still perform segment, but if Kyosho did release an affordable 4wd buggy to the States before the all out carbon plate edition, I know of alot of people who would jump on the 4wd bandwagon because the vehicle is kyosho.

Now if AE would only make a 4wd E buggy . . .

[YR4Dude]

I would prefer a little more alum. and CF where it is needed.

Hopefully those will be available and affordable when the kit is released. :D

[metalry101]

Totally agreed with Cain.

I'd love to pick up Academy buggy but I can't get parts for it locally. I might still pick one up anyways...but it's frustrating to not have it available through any of the big distributors. I can even get CEN stuff if I want it...but not Academy...

Pro buggies are nice...but I don't wanna drop 400 dollars on one. I can pick up a TNX for that. If I've got the choice of another nitro monster (RTR none-the-less) or an unassembled 1/10 electric buggy for the same money, I'm going to take the monster.

[chris1]

That is why 4wd buggys are almost gone is becuse of the price

[rc411]

That is why 4wd buggys are almost gone is becuse of the price

Not anymore. Kyosho basically "FIRED" GPMD as their middle man... high prices :( Kyosho America is darn near ready to take off and do their own thing. As soon as they start producting vehicles, this buggy will be in shops in no time. Cheaper parts and cars is what I predict!

Didn't you read that they raced the 2wd buggy and the 4wd at the cactus classic? What is the 2wd one called? Ultima? I am hoping that they bring back the Ultima trucks, I loved my Type R!

[chris1]

Ihope they bring back all of there buggys and trucks

[Lazerfan1]

Hey I still have my Ultima ST Type R and my Ultima RB Type R I still love them and I hope that the BIG K comes back and gives Losi and Associated a Run for their money and finally become workd champs once again it would be nice to see all of the K cars be on the front of RC Caraction as World Champs!!! Now wouldn't it????

[relayer]

There is a new version of the ZX5 on display at the Shizouka show in Japan. They have replaced all the carbon fibre parts with a moulded composite, very similar to what Losi have on their 4wd's.

As the cost of developing the moulds for these parts would be very high - can we assume that Kyosho have comitted themselves to releasing a production version?

[Lazerfan1]

I sure hope that the big K has this in mind to produce this car! If they do I wish to be the first one on the ordering list! Hopefully we shall see it on the shelves very soon!!! I can't wait till I have one and smoke some Losi and Yokomo and BJ4x4 ***! Later from Rota Spain!

[Ultima Pro XL]

In the new issue of Hi-Torques R/C Car they went ot the new Kyosho center in the US and took an unannounced tour of the place. In the article it says that Kyosho is definitely working of new 1/10 off road machines for the future. They showed them some of the stuff and they are impressed with what they saw. But can't tell the public about it now because Kyosho asked them to keep it under raps for now. I have and still race my ultima car and truck. I hope they keep that name like they have for the Lazer.

[xb3Guy]

dude loved my ultima truck wise i still had it

[Ultima Pro XL]

I still run my Ultima ST R that has every Kyosho upgrade you can get on it and I still win many races with it running in stock class. And I got a Ultima R Evolution off ebay from Japan and that car is a blast. But I'm the only person with a buggy in my area so I never get to race it. I run my Lazer ZXR when people show up with 4WD cars. none knows what kind of car it is and think it's something new!

[wcoyote_racer]

I saw a review of THe SB Pro and it said that to be truly competitive with it, you would need to change/buy a few things to bring it up to the XXX-4/Yokomo/BJ4x4's level. The SB's Graphite chassis had some flex issues, mostly due the the flex in the upper brace, and it needed to be more adjustable. So when you think about it, $340+ is probably about where the Lazer will sell. I figure that is target they need to compete with the Losi car selling wise. Sometimes you get what you pay for. I still run my YZ-10. It's highly modified, with an adjustable wheelbase done by a screw (up to 1/4" total in or out) and camber links that are mounted on top of the bulkheads instead of on the shock tower. I still kick butt with it. So I don't need a new 4WD car. Mine's already up to today's specs. :p

[dj_ski69]

Kyosho is opening a US distributor. The reason that Kyosho stuff is so expensive here is because Great Plains is the only distributor. They jack up the prices. In Japan Kyosho stuff is very reasonably priced and maybe even cheap. A 777 SP1 is ~$500 in a Japanese hobby shop. With the new Kyosho distributor their prices should be competitive with everyone else.

Dude your statement is totally wrong....
I have been living in Japan now for 6 years....
Long enough to know full well the way Japanese buisiness works and how thee economy works....
In Japan there is no bulk pricing for consumers.....There is no cheaper R/C deals on Kyosho or Tamiya either....Everything here is sold at the MSRP written on the box....Every now and then you get a "deal" with a 1000 yen ($10) discount....For example... The Ultima RB type R is still sold over here but for $400 dollars.....Actually you guys are paying less than japanese for some products ie the Super Clod Buster from Tamiya....Over here it goes for 25,000 yen...
A 777 costs $799 at the hobby shops....If you saw one for 500 then consider yourself lucky.....
The Market interest in the states is actually very high for Kyosho and Tamiya cars and trucks....The problem is that niether Kyosho or Tamiya(Tamiya actually does much better than Kyosho in USA pricing) are willing(notice how I didn't say able) to bring the price down to a State side level to compete with AE and Losi.... Not gonna happen....not now....and probably not ever untill the 2 countries economies even out some.....

You gotta understand that the Japanese way is to suck every last bit of cash out of the consumer for any given product.....Buisiness's over here compete only by having super tiny sales wars....And I mean small....But the people actually think there getting good deals....

What I said in this post is not all entirely true....some things you buy on a regular basis in japan are the same or cheaper than the equivalent product in the states.....
But in the Tech and Hobby industry....FORGET IT!!!!


Regards

SkI

[Cain]

Where did you find the review on the SB Pro? For my Pro the only thing that I added that was a must was the center battery brace which really stiffened up things on the chassis. This really improved handling. For durability I went with titanium turnbuckles but I have heard the stock units hold up pretty well.

Anyone got any more info on this Kyosho buggy? Has it been shown anywhere in the USA?

[rc411]

It was shown in rcca's july magazine, both the 4wd and the 2wd. the 2wd went nameless, i predict its an ultima ;)

[metalry101]

It was shown in rcca's july magazine, both the 4wd and the 2wd. the 2wd went nameless, i predict its an ultima ;)

Where?

[windellmc]

So here I am considering Japanese hobby shop prices and I notice that a package of 777 front suspension arms says 700 yen retail. That is about $7 in US funds. Those same arms sold for $9.99 at Tower Hobbies. Don't tell me GP was not jacking up the price.

[dj_ski69]

where are you buying from....?

[windellmc]

Kyosho prints the suggested retail on the header cards. The shop I bought from actually marked down from there but 700 was what Kyosho printed on the header.

[dj_ski69]

Even so you have to take into account that both Kyosho and/or GP have to deal with Import tax and shipping costs from Japan....Kyosho products are made in Japan....therefore On some products that you might see a bit higher cost in the states is mainly due to this....Do you really expect GP to sell without a profit margin? Sure it would be nice, but then again GP probably would not have been around this long if they did....Others products from Kyosho ie The Magnetic Mayhem Motors...Are made solely for Export from Japan into The US and other participating countries....You cannot buy Magnetic Mayhem Motors here in Japan....You can't even order them unless you are getting then from the States.....
unless Kyosho starts producing items in the states, you will not see pricing to your liking on most of thiere stuff....

[windellmc]

Actually I think 777 arms are the same or cheaper than Losi XXXnt truck arms. So a US made product actually costs more. 3 years ago Kyosho parts were high here, but the price has stayed the same since then (and even gone done now that Kyosho America is open) and everyone else has gone up so they are actually about average now. BTW a lot of those Kyosho parts are made in Taiwan by the same company that makes the Hyper 7.

[Bart_Banaan]

^^^KICK ^^

There are some beautiful detailled photo's published of the car of Marc Pavidis' Kyosho at the Offroad Warmup 2005 in Italy last weekend (11.june 2005):

http://homepage3.nifty.com/ksrclifestyle/kyoshoproto.htm


http://homepage3.nifty.com/ksrclifestyle/zx50211.jpg

[relayer]

It was a good result for Pavidas - making the A Main at the worlds warm up.

Have a look at those pictures - the car looks very much finished to me, perhaps just a few adjustments to the type of composite material used for the chassis.

Overall, the car looks very good, bring on the worlds :D

[adam lancia]

that's great news for kyosho....pavidis strong in the main and the car looks very polished. now, if they can price it competitively they'll have a very successful car,

adam

[munim]

Any new info on this?

[relayer]

Any new info on this?

The car will be out before the end of the year. At the recent worlds, the Kyosho drivers ran basically full production spec cars - with Pavidis commenting that just one or two parts need a re-design before the car is ready. :D

[winning edge designs]

From what people have said about the new Kyosho cars, they looked very good at the worlds and so did Mark for someone who has spent most of his time lately helping to develop new cars........Testing and racing at the same time is tuff..............Jim

[relayer]

From what people have said about the new Kyosho cars, they looked very good at the worlds and so did Mark for someone who has spent most of his time lately helping to develop new cars........Testing and racing at the same time is tuff..............Jim

Exactly :D

Pavidis had two times good enough for the A-Main, he just needed one more good run in the last round. Unfortunately the car broke (hence his comments about a couple of parts needing to be fixed), so he missed out.

But considering both he and Jeremy Kortz haven't done much electric racing this year - they did a great job. Jeremy even had the new 2wd in 5th spot after the first round :eek:

[munim]

There's a new 2wd as well?

[relayer]

There's a new 2wd as well?

Yep :D

It was running very well at the worlds too!

It will be a while before the 2wd is out though, they are still testing quite a few different suspension and bulkhead configurations.

[NiMo]

http://www.kyosho.co.jp/web/products/car_bike/buggy/ep4wdracing/laser_zx5/laser_zx5-j.html

More info, September release?

[Freem]

Good Find NiMo!!!

I am really excited about this car and Kyosho's return to electric kits in general. My first car was a Kyosho Ultima in the late 80's. I have been wanting Kyosho to make a 4wd car years. Kyosho makes excellent cars and this car may usher in a new golden era of RC!!!! ;)

Freem

[relayer]

http://www.kyosho.co.jp/web/products/car_bike/buggy/ep4wdracing/laser_zx5/laser_zx5-j.html

More info, September release?

Sounds like the car includes diff/one-way/spool options for the front standard.

But it also sounds like dogbones only in the rear :(

Retail price listed as approx $385 USD. Actual street price may be quite a bit cheaper.

[Tamiya4ever]

Will there be a US release? Or just in Japan.

[ChumsGum]

Amazing!
http://www.kyosho.co.jp/web/products/car_bike/buggy/ep4wdracing/laser_zx5/img/001.jpg

[StevePond]

It will be released in the US.

[Windsorguy99]

lol@ Steve...

there's going to be a lot of cynicism to overcome as Kyosho seemed to walk away from the US market for a bit....but anyone that doubts Kyosho's renewed focus on the US market needs to take a LONG HARD look at what they've done over the past year...adding drivers like Cyrul, Pavidis and Lemieux (some were Kyosho before..but now are FULL LINE Kyosho) and hiring industry insiders like StevePond and Joel Johnson for the newly born Kyosho USA (my apologies if I have the official name incorrect)...

[StevePond]

:) It's Kyosho America, but close enough. I understand the appearances and that's a perception that we have to fight to correct. Kyosho never walked away from the US market - in fact it's quite the opposite. I'll be the first to agree that there was a long down period during the transition to Kyosho America, but the US market has been a priority of Kyosho for decades. In my position with the magazine I spent many years in conversation with Kyosho and I KNOW that the whole team is here to make it much better than it's ever been. That's why I made the decision to come on board. I think Kyosho's relation with the US market has already improved over where it's been for the last few years, but I know there's still much more room for improvement. W99, we're focusing intensely on the job at hand, and hope to show regular, steady improvement as we move forward. Thanks for noticing. ;)

As for the ZX-5, it's something that I've been personally interested in seeing brought back to the US and we lobbied hard to get as many cars as we could for the US. I think we have the largest share of production anywhere in the world. The initial release is going to be limited quantities, and we wanted as many as we could get. The cars are coming soon and so are the parts.

[metalry101]

:) It's Kyosho America, but close enough. I understand the appearances and that's a perception that we have to fight to correct. Kyosho never walked away from the US market - in fact it's quite the opposite. I'll be the first to agree that there was a long down period during the transition to Kyosho America, but the US market has been a priority of Kyosho for decades. In my position with the magazine I spent many years in conversation with Kyosho and I KNOW that the whole team is here to make it much better than it's ever been. That's why I made the decision to come on board. I think Kyosho's relation with the US market has already improved over where it's been for the last few years, but I know there's still much more room for improvement. W99, we're focusing intensely on the job at hand, and hope to show regular, steady improvement as we move forward. Thanks for noticing. ;)

As for the ZX-5, it's something that I've been personally interested in seeing brought back to the US and we lobbied hard to get as many cars as we could for the US. I think we have the largest share of production anywhere in the world. The initial release is going to be limited quantities, and we wanted as many as we could get. The cars are coming soon and so are the parts.
Good to hear from you Steve! I'm excited to see all of the cool new things Kyosho is bringing to our shores. :) I think I'm going to have to buy both Blizzards, a Twin Force, the Lazer that this thread is about, and maybe one of those 1/10 4WD nitro stadium trucks. Maybe you could convince Kyosho to come out with a truck version of the Lazer, or convert the 1/10 4WD nitro stadium (Inferno ST I think it is?) into an electric? I've already got an RS4 MT, love it to death, and I'd love to see something else like it...but maybe shaft driven. Anyways...I have faith in Kyosho. My boss (the LHS owner) told me that Kyosho recently dropped their minimum order requirement that they previously had in place, which tells me Kyosho is really making progress towards being fully operational in the U.S. The minimum order thing was going to kill smaller shops (unless they got stuff through HRP...which let's be honest...isn't that many shops...), but by dropping that, shops will now be able to get parts for people without being force to go through HRP (nothing wrong with HRP, but signing up for another distributor just to get one company that you can't otherwise get is a PITA), or wait for a ridiculous quantity of stuff, or having to order a kit or 3 with each parts order. Very, very smart move on Kyosho's part there! Anyways...I'm glad to hear from ya Steve...and I'm glad to hear that things at Kyosho America are going well!

[StevePond]

Thanks M101! I'm excited too! I think you're going to need a bigger workshop. :p As for the minimum order, it's pretty much standard operating procedure for most distributors and that's why we started with a minimum order, but the consensus of team was that it hurt the smaller shops, so out it went. It was only for the first order BTW, but still an obstacle for some shops and we didn't want that. Many shops have since shared the same opinion and are happy that it's been removed. It's nice to know you're behind us - thanks for the support.

[Windsorguy99]

Sounds like Kyosho America is just wrestling with some of the minor hurdles that plagued RCAmerica when it started up last year...except I'm glad to hear it doesn't sound like Kyosho's orders were held hostage in customs for 2 months :o

I'm glad to hear things are going smoothly though...a healthy Kyosho in North America is good for the industry...

I wasn't trying to imply that Kyosho walked away from North America by splitting with GP.....I see that as a major step in coming back...I was referring to the years where prices were high, availability was poor and product ranges were limited....only GP and Kyosho know who did what...

When I started in RC it was Joel vs Jay, Kyosho vs AE....there was no Losi yet....when I got back in a few years ago I was shocked to see Kyosho's presence (in my area) reduced to a couple 1/8 buggies and Mini-Z's....

Best of luck to Kyosho...I'm a devout fan of Xray...but their product line is still growing...in the meantime Kyosho may be just the ticket to fill in the gaps ;)

[Laterilus]

great news about Kyosho America, Steve. However, for me and the other racers watching this thread, it really comes down to the end result. When is this great looking 4WD buggy getting released? I know it is probably being kept hush hush and all, but you could throw out a particular month it will be ready or possibly tell us that it will be ready for indoor winter racing this year? Can't you? :) I really like the design of this buggy. I've been looking at the others that are made in a similar way, but the MRC I hear has very weak parts and who knows when the BJ4 people are ever going to make more kits (besides, I really hate that 450$ price tag). With Kyosho's previously released quality kits over the years, I'd assume nothing less with this new buggy. Plus, I figure the kit at least won't be as expensive as the BJ4.

[ChumsGum]

I've been a long time Kyosho fan and have bought my cars and parts through Tower Hobbies. What does this new Kyosho America mean to me? Will Kyosho and Tower still have a relationship? Will I see Kyosho cars at Hobby People (not just Mini-Zs and the Inferno)?

[windellmc]

Here you go. It will be on sale September 30 in Japan.

http://www.kyosho.co.jp/web/products/car_bike/buggy/ep4wdracing/laser_zx5/laser_zx5-j.html

[StevePond]

When is this great looking 4WD buggy getting released?

The initial shipment of ZX-5s are coming to the states via air shipment, and at no extra cost to the dealer. We simply want our customers to have them as quickly as any other country. So, once they are released, they'll be put on a plane and as soon as they're through customs, they'll be on their way to dealers. The release is currently scheduled for late Sep. to early Oct.

[metalry101]

SWEEEEEET! I won't have money by then...but that's sweet anyways!

[StevePond]

See my post right up there... ^^^^^^ :D

[Laterilus]

Thanks for the update Steve! I'm assuming hobby shops will be able to pre-order them soon since the release date is so close? I know you mentioned that only a limited amount will be coming over with the initial shippment, but I want to make sure I have one in that first batch! Who should the hobby shops contact? I'm not sure about the whole ordering process that hobby shops must go through. Do they contact Kyosho America directly now since there is no more distributor?

[Laterilus]

Oh, any word on pricing? Also, is Kyosho releasing their own wheels? What other manufacturer's wheels will fit if I can't find any Kyosho wheels? Lastly, will a set of wheels and tires be packed into the kit?

[StevePond]

Laterilus - We just added the information to our system and sent pricing information to dealers yesterday, so they are now able to pre-order the ZX-5 if they wish. The final selling price will be up to the hobby store of course, but they should average somewhere in the low 300 range. Wheels and body are included but not tires.

[metalry101]

Who should the hobby shops contact? I'm not sure about the whole ordering process that hobby shops must go through. Do they contact Kyosho America directly now since there is no more distributor?
They can either order directly from Kyosho, or from HRP, or even from both. HRP is more convienient for my LHS for most things since we don't have to pay shipping. They're located about 15 minutes away :D. Kyosho would probably be the quicker way to go since they get their stuff direct...whereas HRP has to get it from Kyosho and then ship it out...but then again, saving money on combined shipping with other stuff from HRP might make those extra few days worth the wait for most shops. I believe HRP will be stocking most everything Kyosho...

[Tamiya4ever]

Laterilus - We just added the information to our system and sent pricing information to dealers yesterday, so they are now able to pre-order the ZX-5 if they wish. The final selling price will be up to the hobby store of course, but they should average somewhere in the low 300 range. Wheels and body are included but not tires.

Do you work for Kyosho? Just wondering. And what on-line hobbyshops will order them because my local one don't carry Kyosho at all.

[Freem]

Steve

Thanks for keeping us up to date! There is a lot of interest in this car and kyosho's return to electronic off road in general. With the release of this kit and future products Kyosho may get ahead of the market. If this happens please stay the course, Kyosho has a strong and loyal fan base! ;) A couple of post up someone mention developing a 4wd stadium truck. I think that is a great idea and I hope Kyosho takes it on board. I think there is an unspoken market for a 4wd stadium truck, even if it is just in stock form.

[hardadz]

Just to let people know who are looking for a place to buy(in this case even pre-order) a Kyosho Lazer ZX-5 goto www.evolutionhobbies.com and hit the "my store" button to enter there online store .They have them listed and from what i hear there even taking pre-order's/prepay.Kyosho site say's early october release!! looks like kyosho has some hot products coming out .Move over Losi there a new man in town for the 4wd class!!
Again www.evolutionhobbies.com .

[relayer]

Breaking news from Kyosho: Former Yokomo Driver Adachi has now joined Kyosho to race the ZX5 :cool: The team is getting bigger and better :D

[hardadz]

this is a PDF file and since it cannot be loaded here please email or PM me with your email addy.

[Archyman]

Dose anyone else know who's carring the ZX-5 car...Been thrying to get into that Evolution hobbies or how ever it is...not a very good site ...dosent let me log in tried everything.......so I'm pretty sure I wont be ordering through them...

[hardadz]

Dose anyone else know who's carring the ZX-5 car...Been thrying to get into that Evolution hobbies or how ever it is...not a very good site ...dosent let me log in tried everything.......so I'm pretty sure I wont be ordering through them...

413 people have gone to the site and viewed this buggy, no complaints about getting on to the site, you do NOT have to log in to view the site and no one else has complained. My Kyosho rep even visited the site all without a hitch, 6 of these have been sold , so here is my question, why are you having a problem?, and in your last email to me you stated you were going with a predator? What you have to do is when the security box pops up is hit YES, that brings you into a secure storefront. Very easy to navigate and no sign in unless placing an order. We are also a dealer for the Predator as of Monday of this week. Let me know if you still have a problem.

[Archyman]

Not sure of the problem...I get in but as soon as I click on something it sends me to the page that tells me I got to sign in...the only way to view something id to rapidly slick on it about 5-6 times then it might let me into what I want....Ya I did say I was going with a predator ..but dose that mean I cant get a ZX-5 also

[hardadz]

Not sure of the problem...I get in but as soon as I click on something it sends me to the page that tells me I got to sign in...the only way to view something id to rapidly slick on it about 5-6 times then it might let me into what I want....Ya I did say I was going with a predator ..but dose that mean I cant get a ZX-5 also

No, you can get what you want, lol. Try using your "tools" button at the top of your browser window, goto internet options and delete cookies and files(including off line files) then refresh your page, you may have a stale page from trying before.

[Archyman]

not workin that way also...that's ok...When you get them in I'll just call and order one

[Archyman]

do you have any pic.'s of it besides whats on you'r site...I looked at a Kyosho link site and it looks to be a molded chassis but the pic. on this and the other thread it looks like carbon graphite

[JasonD]

When Is the 2WD Kyosho going to be released?

[RichieRich]

When Is the 2WD Kyosho going to be released?

Yes! We wanna know!!

[airborneSGT]

I just bought mine from SouthEastRc.com :)!!!!!!!!!

Should be here next week. I can hardly wait. I havent raced in a long time and I had purchased a rising storm to beat around. Now I will have a serious car. I am going to make it brushless as well.

Checkout my site for updates: www.airbornesgt.com

Does anyone else in here have one up and running? I cant wait to hear some feedback.

[ALJR]

not much action in here? is there another more active thread that covers the new kyosho zx-5?

[aus jd 2703]

hey how have u guys found this buggy?? what are it weak points and were does it break ie spare parts?? thanks all
btw why are there 2 forums??

[ALJR]

hey how have u guys found this buggy?? what are it weak points and were does it break ie spare parts?? thanks all
btw why are there 2 forums??

check out rctech.net
there is a more active thread over there

[Potash]

My bud got one of these and he has a shop but got frustrated and i ended up building it and i thing im gonna be the first to drive it too.(he should be ordering the brushless any day now) :D

[nikoskar]

The only weak parts are the Front Shock Tower(You must changed after it broke with Carbon) and the Shock Tower Mount(With Alm, after some jups it brokes.)

This car it rocks. I have LRP Brushless 4 Star, Spere Competition and 4200 LRP and with default gearing and it little slower that a same parts electric but On Road Car..

[702nitro]

I'd say that it all depends on how bad the crash is. For me the shock tower hasn't broken yet (knock on wood), but the front lower bulkhead and front suspension mounts were the first to break.

I agree with you I love this buggy.

[tt-01_projex]

I have missing parts when you buy a brand new kit. i waited 2 weeks for the spur gear missing part from the company and I can finally start building the kit again.

[FLYBOY7]

i finally got some track time with my new Lazer......

set-up- chassis, pretty much bone stock.... stock oil, stock springs.... i had added two aftermarket cf shock towers, and alum front tower mount.... and rear universals.... i am running 2s Apogee 3800 li-mn packs.... Hitec digital servo, and a Mamba Max with the 7700 motor geared 16/78.... tires were Losi IFMAR studs up front, and IFMAR pins in the rear...

first off, upsides........ the K-car drives likes a dream.... fantastic steering..... plush over the stutter bumps.... lands like a dream when you downside.... flies awesome, and responds well, but not overly aggresive to in-flight input....

but...... i had a ton of breakage..... i can attribute this to two things..... 1. we've had a cold snap in the midwest the last week.... it only got up to 50f sat when i was driving the Lazer...... and 2. the power system i was using was Gnarly fast, we are talking crazy speeds.........

broke both my Shooters towers...... so i highly recommend not wasting any money on them..... also broke a rear hub and a front knuckle...

overall....... an Awesome handling buggy..... parts are even easy to get now... something that couldn't be said in the past....

Tim Mohr

[xhumeka]

*sorry - didn't mean to post in this thread*

[minitee]

i finally got some track time with my new Lazer......

set-up- chassis, pretty much bone stock.... stock oil, stock springs.... i had added two aftermarket cf shock towers, and alum front tower mount.... and rear universals.... i am running 2s Apogee 3800 li-mn packs.... Hitec digital servo, and a Mamba Max with the 7700 motor geared 16/78.... tires were Losi IFMAR studs up front, and IFMAR pins in the rear...

first off, upsides........ the K-car drives likes a dream.... fantastic steering..... plush over the stutter bumps.... lands like a dream when you downside.... flies awesome, and responds well, but not overly aggresive to in-flight input....

but...... i had a ton of breakage..... i can attribute this to two things..... 1. we've had a cold snap in the midwest the last week.... it only got up to 50f sat when i was driving the Lazer...... and 2. the power system i was using was Gnarly fast, we are talking crazy speeds.........

broke both my Shooters towers...... so i highly recommend not wasting any money on them..... also broke a rear hub and a front knuckle...

overall....... an Awesome handling buggy..... parts are even easy to get now... something that couldn't be said in the past....

Tim Mohr
Hi Flyboy7,how did you get your hands on Mamba Max anthe 7700 motor.Are they out?????.Is it a Beta version?
Thanks,Marek :confused:

[FLYBOY7]

yooooo guys........ yes, i'm running Mamba Max..... LOL... i am Tim Mohr.... Factory driver for CC, i'm the guy in some of the CC ads in RCCA mag.... i work for Apogee Lithium Batteries....

from what i hear, CC is shoot'n out Beta MM's Very soon..... so if you are a beta tester, you should have one in your hands shortly.... also..... if you are just a Castle Fan..... the MM system should be out to everyone June 15th.... i was reassured of this at the Vegas show by the owner of CC himself.....

oh and..... the MM system is gonna BLOW your mind when you get to drive it... especially the 7700!!!!

Tim

[minitee]

Hi Tim;that explains why you had your hands on the NEW MM One thing I really would like to know ,is,the dimensions of the unit itself.It is crucial for me because of the limited room of the XXX-4 chassis.If it doesn't I will not buy it.Maybe this info is still confidential,but if not, please let me know.
Thanks a lot,Marek fro Toronto :)

[FLYBOY7]

the MM speedo is slightly longer than a novak GTB, but slightly more narrow..... fits very Easily in my TC4 and Lazer.....

T.

[Laterilus]

Tim, you don't still live in St. Louis do you?! If so, where do you race? I have a ZX-5 as well and raced it all winter at the new indoor track in Jeff. City, MO, Marion, IL, and Albion, IL a couple of times. 4WD has really been picking up as of late here and I'm surprised I never ran accross you. Are you still racing electric off-road right now? If so, where?

[francesco]

yooooo guys........ yes, i'm running Mamba Max..... LOL... i am Tim Mohr.... Factory driver for CC, i'm the guy in some of the CC ads in RCCA mag.... i work for Apogee Lithium Batteries....

from what i hear, CC is shoot'n out Beta MM's Very soon..... so if you are a beta tester, you should have one in your hands shortly.... also..... if you are just a Castle Fan..... the MM system should be out to everyone June 15th.... i was reassured of this at the Vegas show by the owner of CC himself.....

oh and..... the MM system is gonna BLOW your mind when you get to drive it... especially the 7700!!!!

Tim
Wow I want that!!!! Could you please give me a detail list on the parts to use for the truck? Also, is the MM 7700 motor and ESC are water resistance (I sometime drive the truck in web surface)?

[bluewire]

Hi,

How come the kyosho lazer zx 5 comes tireless ?

I mean you pay that much for a buggy and they don't give you tires ?

Where do you buy tires and rims for your buggy you guys ?

Mine will arrive in two weeks, i need tires, new rims and a new wing.

[momosport]

Simple,

Not everyone has the same conditions at their local tracks.

therefore,

If you sell tires w/ a Taper Pin style tread, and the local track has loose dusty conditions, you would need to get some "spike style" tires.

Look at it this way, rather than sell you tires in a kit that won't work on your local track, you save the $$ to buy the right tires for the conditions.


MOmo

[rojna-pl]

My new zx5 ready for some action :D instructions and screws were a pain .... but it looks like it has some potential on the track :winner:

[francesco]

How does the lazer zx5 compared with the jconcepts bj4 world's edition kit? Is the bj4 much better choice?

[rojna-pl]

ZX5 around $300
BJ4 around $500

With the ZX5 you get a one-way, spool and a diff .... BJ4 gives you these as options you can buy ......
The choice for me was easy :D

[joffacn]

Hi

Has this thread died?
Is there a more active ZX5 thread?

Jeff

[RoboRC]

Hey all!

I am hoping an off-road track is going to open up soon in my area and have been trying to determine what I would race if it happened. I used to race a Turbo Optima way back in the day and was thinking if I got back into off-road, I would like to get back into 4WD again. What is the latest Laser car from Kyosho? How competative are they with the Losi and the BJ4 4WD cars?

Thanks for your input!

Edit: Wow... I guess if I would have spent some time and looked three posts up I would see that this question has already been answered! :D

[Djioul]

Hi gents !

I just got rid of a tamiya dark impact to buy the new lazer ZX5.
At least this one handles correctly the power of my Novak 6.5 !

Here are a few pictures :

http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/2821/img3378bt6.jpg
http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/1037/img3379gd6.jpg

http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/8799/img3367tm6.jpg

And with a Porsche 235mm bodyshell to gat a Porsche 959 Dakar like (remember this car racing the Paris-Dakar in the 80's??? ) :

http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/281/img3381vb0.jpg

A few videos on the snow :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7S2HG8v03U
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuLN6IQ2qYU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmmEcswvyNw

Went on the pavement as well, with only 2WD after a crash from a colleague wich bended my transmission axis !!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfbATULH3l0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LiHDYjquWY

Once the transmission was back to 4WD, we found a bigger parking and I find that I'm a little bit undergeared on this one :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDTUl-DjwVw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1S4istUPUk

[rctaboo]

I've decided to get the ZX-5 Readyset. Does anyone on here have any experience with this car? Is there any upgrade I should buy with the kit? Stiffer springs? Hex screw set? Carbon shock towers? I'm mostly worried about the stock suspension and if it's adequate or if I should get a set of better springs or at least thicker oil.

I plan on slowly upgrading the car as I go along, but I'm just wondering if there is something this car definitely needs coming out of the box.

Thanks

[josh62685]

i would get thicker shock oil. i dont know what was in it before but i filled them with 45w and didnt notice much of a difference. i only had mine a day when i wrecked it at full speed. bent the front diff shaft, motor came loose and is now hard to turn. battery flew out of car, and broke front arm pin holder.

[Herfissen]

Please can you all help me?
I was searching on sg coyote an this site pop up.
I need help for my SG coyote 4wd. I need som stuff, somebody know where I can buy part to my car? Because I need it.
And can you all give me some information about it?? I don't have papirs on it, so I don't know any thing about it. I know it's very old, and I can't find anything on the internet: ) Plz help me.