new motor

[minipirate]

hi guys, i am finaly in the market for a new motor :D now on to the hard part, the decision.

the motor i would like to buy must have adiquate power to move the savage out with authority but also have middle and top end smothness and power, i believe to acomplish this i would be looking at 3 hp+ also it must hold a good tune and be reliable

the motors i was looking at were
(a) picco .27 outlaw
(b) coralli .30 or .32
(c) lrp .28 spec 2
(d) or the SH .28

all of the above motors create the power i am looking for but how are they tuning wise, are they consistant and do they run relible i want to know all the +'s and -'s

feel free to list some more motors but once again tell me how they run.

minipirate :D

[savagemachine]

Go for any of these apart from the SH.28 as the bad reports and feedback that people have left after owning one of these engines is not good.

If it was me i would go for the Picco 27 outlaw bit of a sod to tune up at first but once you got it all sorted it is a s*** hot engine


Savagemachine

[minipirate]

thanks for the quick reply savage machine i was kinda leaning towards one of them, mainly for the green head :D na J/K i heard they were terrific motors

what do you mean by bit of a sod to tune up at first :confused:

[savagemachine]

A bit of sod to tune they are not as easy to tune as the 25ss lets put it like that sometimes they can be a little sod to tune plenty of time and patience is required i think.When you have finally got the motor to how you want it you will be well pleased and be happy with it thats what i meant nothing to serious

Savagemachine

[shadowghost1]

The Picco has insane power, I had to rebuild both diffs in my Truck after I put it in. My next motor will be the .32 I am interested in this big boy and I have heard alot of good things. I have no experience with the SH but alot of people say bad things about it.

[minipirate]

if i could get the coralli .32 cheap would it be worth it, has anyone had experiance with this motor

[MikeWz]

The SH and the Mach are the same engines, both have problems breaking con-rods. Those are a no-go.
Haven't heard much on the LRP .28, but I'm pretty sure it's exactly the same as the new Mach .28 which doesn't have the con-rod breaking problem. Would probably be a decent choice.
Picco .27s have a problem eating up one-way-bearings. People on here may tell you that theirs has been perfect (and it very well could be), but there are MANY cases in which they've cracked and or worn down one-way-bearings pretty quickly.
Be careful with the Collari. Unless they updated, there's no seal on the throat of the carb where it goes into the block. You'll have to use RTV. They've also used an aluminum carb instead of composite carb. Not really sure why, but surprisingly haven't heard much in the way of tuning problems (though haven't heard much about the engine in general, it's not hugely popular yet)

Give the TTR.28 a shot. TTR has the reputation for being one of the most reliable engines on the market. In fact, one of the engineers of OS is from TTR, and both are extremely reputable companies

[metalry101]

Out of all of those, I'd buy the Picco .27. The Collari .30's that I sold (I work in a hobby shop) have all had serious problems. We might have gotten an early batch or something...but whatever the reason, they were junk. Now for the real reason I don't suggest buying them. Werks Racing sucks. Period. Werks Racing is the company that sells the Collari .30 and .32 and the red-headed version of the Picco .27. All of our customers who had problems with their .30, and tried to get help from Werks on the matter were treated like dogshit. This is ridiculous, and completely unacceptable. I've heard good things about that Collari .32...but I will NEVER buy one, and NEVER suggest one, because the money goes to Werks Racing, a company that did not stand behind their product and refused to help their customers. The hobby shop I work at no longer carries anything from Werks Racing at all because of this. They've made ammends to future customers by fixing the problems (at least from what I've heard), but they screwed everyone who bought the original defective product.

Anyways...my second choice on that list would be the LRP .28. It's a badass looking motor, and it's made by the same company that makes the Mach .26 and the XTM .247. I've used both of those motors, and liked both...well..ish. The .247 was a great motor, and I never had problems with it. The Mach made great power until it imploded (one of thousands of defective motors shipped installed in LSTs). I wouldn't suggest the Mach .26 to anyone since they're likely to explode (although Horizon has been exceptional about taking care of people who've had problems). I believe they've fixed the problem with the .28...but I haven't heard enough about it to be able to stand behind that claim yet. For the price, it should be a solid motor. The Mach .26 (when it ran) made more power than everything else in it's price range. I still think the Picco is a better buy, because it's more reliable, more powerful, just as easy to tune, and just as long lasting, if not longer...at only 40 bucks more.

[minipirate]

thanks for so much help you guys are legends, well i think i might get the lrp also will my rotostart backplate fit on the lrp or will i have to buy a new one :D

[minipirate]

also would any of you guys be able to give a link to lrp's website, i cant find it anywhere

[metalry101]

LRP's U.S. site is the same as AE's, as AE is their U.S. distributor. LRP's international site is http://www.lrp-electronic.de

[minipirate]

that website dosent have the .28 :confused: also i was looking at the picco but has the one way bearing been fixed :D

[outfitter540]

i cant belive no one has mentioned the Novarossi, Top, Rex Race 528. many top racers use them. you can get the 8 port race for $300 online. They rate at 2.85 HP which is slightly under your mark but ive never heard a bad thing about them.

[metalry101]

i cant belive no one has mentioned the Novarossi, Top, Rex Race 528. many top racers use them. you can get the 8 port race for $300 online. They rate at 2.85 HP which is slightly under your mark but ive never heard a bad thing about them.
Those are sweet motors..and I have heard good things about them...but parts are expensive. I think the pull-start for that thing is like 40+ dollars. So is the one-way if memory serves correctly. They're good motors...and 300 bucks isn't obscene...but the cost of keeping it running if you ever break the starting equipment is a bit outlandish IMO.

As for the one-way problem on the Picco, yes, it is fixed.

As for the LRP engine's homepage...here's (http://www.rc10.com/shusting/CatalogHub/lrp/engines.htm) what I found. As with most of AE's site, the page is absolute garbage. Nicely laid out, but absolutely no useful information at all.

[savagepicco26]

if the picco .27 is anything like the picco .26 (probably more) than i'd buy that. i'm running a picco .26 in my savage now. it's got bottom, mid and top end. half the time, i have a hard time keeping the front wheels on the track while racing! and that's with 16/48 gearing!

[minipirate]

hey guys thanks for all the responses i have norrowed it down to the picco and the lrp, i think i can decide on my own now but one last question will the rotostart backplate for the nitro star .25 fit he picco or the lrp :D

[savagepicco26]

will the rotostart backplate for the nitro star .25 fit he picco or the lrp :D
it fits the picco .26. you just need to get an alluminum 12mm hex (touring car size, traxxas makes one) to put in there as a spacer cause the picco starting hex is only half as tall as the S-25's.

[minipirate]

thank savagepicco i think i will get the picco i have heard to many good things about it :D