View Full Version : DuraTrax Vendetta 1/18 scale buggy
PeterV
09-13-2005, 04:53 PM
http://www.rccaraction.com/pics/vendettabodyon.jpg
http://www.rccaraction.com/pics/vendettachassis.jpg
http://www.rccaraction.com/pics/vendettaaccs.jpg
http://www.rccaraction.com/pics/vendettaaction.jpg
You saw it here first!
**NEW** DuraTrax Vendetta 1/18 RTR 4WD EP Buggy (DTXD13**)
The first 1/18 scale buggy with 1/8 scale racing features!
The Vendetta offers the best of both worlds: the ease and completeness
of a ready-to-run combined with the equipment of a race-ready
competitor.
Aluminum performance parts inspired by 1/8 scale racing. Track-tunable
oil-filled shocks. Adjustable wheelbase. A fully adjustable suspension.
A complete set of ball bearings. It's fully optioned, and what's
more - it's totally ready-to-run. The body's painted. The chassis is
assembled. And there's nothing left to buy. Motor, ESC, battery and
charger, radio and "AA" batteries - the Vendetta has it all, and
it's all good to go now.
Convenience Features:
- Fully Assembled and Ready-To-Run
- 2-Channel 75 MHZ Radio by Futaba
- SX-100 Steering servo and RX-100 Receiver
- High RPM 380 Motor
- ESC5000 Electronic Speed Control with reverse
- 7.2V 600mAh NiCd battery and AC charger
- 6 different body colors to choose from
- 8 "AA" batteries for TX
Performance Features:
- Anodized Aluminum Shock Towers
- Anodized Aluminum Front Brace
- Anodized Aluminum Steering Drag Link
- Anodized Aluminum Driveshaft
- Anodized Aluminum Rear Hinge Pin Brace
- Fully Adjustable Suspension - Camber, Castor, Wheelbase
- Adjustable Oil-Filled Shocks with Aluminum End Caps
- Multiple Shock Mounting Positions (4 front/6 rear)
- Mounted Pin-spike Tires with Foam inserts mounted on racing rims
- Front and Rear Differentials
- Shaft-driven 4WD
- Complete Ball Bearings
- Gear Cover fully encloses the pinion and spur gear
- Two-Position Adjustable Wing
DTXD13**
Length: 10.25 in (260mm)
Width: 6.375 in (160mm)
Height: 3.625 in (95mm)
Weight (approx.): 23.5 oz (665g)
Street Price: $169.99
OutFrontFrames
09-13-2005, 04:55 PM
wow that looks familiar.. lol
elcid4300
09-13-2005, 04:59 PM
Wow, looks good. Oil shocks too!
elcid4300
09-13-2005, 05:07 PM
wow that looks familiar.. lol
Looks new to me, or am I missing something? :confused:
rckid11
09-13-2005, 05:07 PM
Same as LRP http://www.one18th.com/ShowNews1126180545---13-showfull.htm . Wow I didn't know that LRP and duratrax were both connected? :confused:
Rain Man
09-13-2005, 05:09 PM
Man thats nice! Mmmmm aluminum
PeterV
09-13-2005, 05:10 PM
As in, "looks like a Half-8"? Yeah, it is a buggy, but it's 1/18 instead of 1/16, and the design isn't copped from Kyosho. It's more 18T-like!
PeterV
09-13-2005, 05:11 PM
Oh yeah, I haven't looked at the LRP yet. Is the LRP buggy even coming here? At any rate, the Vendetta looks pretty good.
microrcdude
09-13-2005, 05:27 PM
by far the nicest DTX EVER! I know what my B-day money is going towards
^j!nx^
09-13-2005, 06:21 PM
looks nice, but why cant any of these companys release a nice cheap kit version. I dont need or need to pay for ANOHTER set of electroncs, charger, and low mah battery pack.
Hellfire
09-13-2005, 06:33 PM
LRP is not connected to DTX. Just shows that most stuff is bought from a manufacturer, and then a name is slapped on. Looks like the one who makes this toy doesnt mind having more than one brand attatched.
Tamiya4ever
09-13-2005, 07:49 PM
I started a thread about the LRP buggy in the electric forum. I am not sure if that will be in the US, but the Duratrax buggy looks nice. I can see a new class of races coming. 1/18th scale trucks and buggys. :p
GT Freak
09-13-2005, 07:54 PM
its pretty bad when ZONE has a product out before the website does!
Silent Scope
09-13-2005, 07:58 PM
i like that it comes with good shocks and alum. shocktowers
Legend_Car
09-13-2005, 08:36 PM
the first thing ive seen in a while batteries included
jocktheglide165
09-13-2005, 08:57 PM
Looks new to me, or am I missing something? :confused:
if you look around most 1/18th scale items are essentially the same build you cant change much at that small scale so what you do is just change the name and slight variation.
TitansGT4
09-13-2005, 09:19 PM
I like it, I'm going to preorder one as soon as tower puts them up
Hellfire
09-13-2005, 10:35 PM
I think they are cool, but everytime I want to buy one for my son (one being one of many 18th scales) I remember my old turbo hopper, which these things remind me off. I know these are closer to Hobby Quality, but everyone has nightmares of their turbo hoppers.
bobf24
09-13-2005, 11:38 PM
ya this sucker is completely different than the kyosho, i dont knwo anything about the LRP one, i might have to get rid of my half 8 and pick up one of these, since parts will be so much easier for me to get,
maxxenitout
09-14-2005, 12:05 AM
Both LRP and DURATRAX look like converted RC18T's.
Greg_Hager
09-14-2005, 03:37 AM
I'd say the LRP one is since LRP and AE is the same people. lol
WhoMe
09-14-2005, 06:56 AM
That LRP buggy and this one look like the same buggy.
Combatcm
09-14-2005, 07:26 AM
It's OEM. Japanese factories make them and then a mediator (duratrax) ships them here. They add what they want in the package, the box, the name and then distribute them.
It is the same buggy.
nomad1
09-14-2005, 08:12 AM
I just wonder how it will perform. Say against an RC18T or Losi mini-T
TC4RACER
09-14-2005, 08:31 AM
whoa i never saw that coming
OutFrontFrames
09-14-2005, 09:26 AM
I apologize for some reason i was thinking that it looked like the Kyosho when in fact it looks nothing like it at all.
elcid4300
09-14-2005, 10:38 AM
if you look around most 1/18th scale items are essentially the same build you cant change much at that small scale so what you do is just change the name and slight variation.
I am very familiar with 18th scale stuff, I just didn't know what OutFront meant. It seemed he was saying it was a copy of something and his above post clarified things.
cheerwhiner
09-14-2005, 10:43 AM
my store has ordered some. I might buy it, i need a decent 1/18 with easy part ordering!
TimJohnson
09-14-2005, 11:15 AM
Just A Big Rip Off Of The Mini Inferno!!!! Plus The Duratax Is Smaller Than The Mini Inferno, So It Will Never Handle As Well, Specialy With The Receiver Uptop And The Speed Control..........looks Nowhere Near Balanced. Plus the Kyosho Mini Inferno is an Original design, created by Kyosho, not out sourced!!
I see a problem with these for racing in indoor facilities on carpet that has stopped 1/10 scale buggies from being run as frequent as the trucks, the exposed parts will be believe to tear up the carpet. that is why alot of tracks won't run 1/10 scale buggies indoors (a shame, as its very fast and fun even with stock motors in 4wd 1/10 scales). I sure hope this doesn't happen with these. I wouldn't mind pickup up a few for the family and settings up a track inside the house for the winter.
elcid4300
09-14-2005, 11:45 AM
Just A Big Rip Off Of The Mini Inferno!!!! Plus The Duratax Is Smaller Than The Mini Inferno, So It Will Never Handle As Well, Specialy With The Receiver Uptop And The Speed Control..........looks Nowhere Near Balanced. Plus the Kyosho Mini Inferno is an Original design, created by Kyosho, not out sourced!!
No really, how do you feel about it? I would say that it's pretty easy to call almost ANY vehicle a rip-off of another vehicle. Also, have you driven it? Then how can you sat it won't handle as well? As for it being outsourced, who cares? If this thing was sold in Radio Shack, it would be just as cool! It's a good looking vehicle and the price is great, AND it includes oil shocks, a few alloy bits, AND seperate elctronics! Hate it after you actually DRIVE it!
JDAWG53
09-14-2005, 12:04 PM
Gearhead you are way off base here. What would the hobby be if Associated was the only manufacturer that made a 1/10 elec buggy or Traxxas the only one to make a monster truck etc. Would they work all day every week to make their product better? NO they would not have to. That is the great thing there is not just one manufacturer for most categories so each manufacturer tries to one up the next. It is called competition. Without it we would all have Tyco Turbo Hopper. Without competition the manufacturer wouldn't strive to give us the best price possible. I dont know about you but I think the more manufacturers that enter this category the better.
This is an awesome product.
Akura2
09-14-2005, 12:37 PM
Just A Big Rip Off Of The Mini Inferno!!!! Plus The Duratax Is Smaller Than The Mini Inferno, So It Will Never Handle As Well, Specialy With The Receiver Uptop And The Speed Control..........looks Nowhere Near Balanced. Plus the Kyosho Mini Inferno is an Original design, created by Kyosho, not out sourced!!
it's only 1cm shorter so it won't be THAT different.... it's actually more like 1/17 scale than 1/18 scale
WhoMe
09-14-2005, 12:44 PM
Its neat looking. Some people may not dig this idea but since these 1/16th-ISH buggies started appearing Ive always wanted a Mini-Xray XB8.
Bad Ash
09-14-2005, 03:08 PM
Just wait duratrax is going to release a 1/8th buggy and a 1/8th scale truggy too. This is the first step of duratrax taking over the world!! :rolleyes:
MaxxThrasher
09-14-2005, 06:23 PM
I think Duratrax does it again!!
I'm totally convinced after driving the MQ that this one will handle just as well. 1/18 scale offers so much for me, I love it!
It looks great, just like a shrunken 1/8 scale buggy.
I like that they include everything you need and have already planned out the option parts.
QUAKE&SHAKE
09-14-2005, 06:32 PM
It looks great, just like a shrunken 1/8 scale buggy.
Yeah looks like a mini Axis I wonder why they went with mini Quake and not mini Axis.
minitdriver
09-14-2005, 07:17 PM
Well LRP is a giant in Europe and Duratrax is a giant in the US so maybe their is some deal between the companies? seems odd though. In these photos the electronics are on top of this center brace and those electronics are big so the high cg seems like it would be bad.buthe LRP had the electronics on the battery strap!Which seems nuts cuz now you have nearly all the weight of the car on one side. Another thing is that the servo looks to be a 10th scale servo, so maybe a smaller servo can allow you to move electronics for better balance...or put a bigger motor in it.
I wonder how hard it would be to adapt that gearcover to an 18T? Seems nice but I think a buggy body on an 18T might be nicer, just my opinion though.
stay classy
TimJohnson
09-14-2005, 11:42 PM
I think Duratrax does it again!!
I'm totally convinced after driving the MQ that this one will handle just as well. 1/18 scale offers so much for me, I love it!
It looks great, just like a shrunken 1/8 scale buggy.
I like that they include everything you need and have already planned out the option parts.
THIS GUY RIGHT HERE KNOWS EXACLY WHAT UP...........IM SERIOUS.
kevin107
09-15-2005, 06:58 AM
Anyone have a guess as to if this thing will be capable of handling a mamba 6800? I don't have much DTX experience...
MaxxThrasher
09-15-2005, 08:42 AM
Anyone have a guess as to if this thing will be capable of handling a mamba 6800? I don't have much DTX experience...
I think the key word in your question is "handle" which can be defined in many different ways.
Do you mean will the car explode on the first blip of the throttle? No, I doubt that very much.
Do you mean will the car handle with that kind of power? With practice I'm sure you can, but not at full throttle.
Do you mean can you put that powerful motor in the car and have it last forever? No, that kind of power will wear parts out in a faster rate then the stock set up.
Ultimately the only area I see having problems with a more powerful motor is the differentials and maybe the outdrives.
If they (Duratrax) were smart, they made the diff. cases the same as the MQ in which they already have ball diffs for.
I can't wait until it's released. At that price it's worth the purchase just to add it to my collection.
NitroTXT1
09-15-2005, 10:26 PM
on with the mamba's and li po's anyone see 45+mph coming?
TimJohnson
09-15-2005, 11:51 PM
from a duratrax.....I hardly think so.
minitdriver
09-16-2005, 12:11 AM
could this handle a mamba? i would think so. its basically 1/18th so its not soo big that ut would hurt the mamba. and in my opinion the drivetrain seems like an 18T, which can handle a mamba with a lil work. but this isn't out and all the info we have is from this page so i=only time will tell.
stay classy
built2scale
09-16-2005, 01:12 PM
This looks interesting, can't wait for some real reviews.
dacemaxx111
09-16-2005, 01:49 PM
anderson makes the mini quake and this buggy.they make and design many of duratrax vehicles.i have a mini quake pro kit and have a 8000 mamba with a 7.4 li po and haven't broke any parts yet it can keep up with any 1/18 scale it is like a mini e-maxx very tough and can handle alot of horsepower for its size jumps very well too.
rc411
09-17-2005, 11:00 PM
Duratrax with a 1/18 buggy? Hmm... could they possibly have a 1/8 in the works? ...rc411 ponders...
ffactory666
09-17-2005, 11:25 PM
Here is another manufacturer Yokomo with the same buggy , near the bottom of the page.
http://www.halfeight.com/forums/showthread.php?t=840&page=2
Looks like LRP ,Duratrax and Yokomo are buying the buggy from whoever is making it and re badging it ..I suppose they will all use different electrical specs though :confused:
rckid11
09-18-2005, 09:02 PM
Wow. That is just weird....
microrcdude
09-18-2005, 09:14 PM
id rather own something by yoke, they usually have better parts support
RCBASHERFREAK50
09-18-2005, 09:52 PM
and it looks like it uses standard servos!!
QUAKE&SHAKE
09-19-2005, 05:15 PM
Duratrax with a 1/18 buggy? Hmm... could they possibly have a 1/8 in the works? ...rc411 ponders...
You mean other than the 1/8 Axis they have? It is old so might be a new replacement in the works.
R_C_hoodlum
09-19-2005, 07:56 PM
When is this gonna be available to purchase? It's pretty sweet.
WhoMe
09-19-2005, 10:25 PM
It would be awsome if this make it out in time for the East Coast 1/18th scale championship race. There is gonna be a half 8 buggy class in that and some competition would be sweet.
USAxxxs
09-20-2005, 12:49 PM
[QUOTE=microrcdude]id rather own something by yoke, they usually have better parts support[/QUOTE
Yokomo may have better parts but Duratrax has better support and parts will be easier to get as with all Duratrax vehicles.
Great Planes Model Distributors + Duratrax = same people
They are guestimating 11/15 as the release date.
microrcdude
09-20-2005, 04:41 PM
Great planes? I dont wanna have to drive an hour to the nearest plane store. I think 5 mins for a part for a yoke sounds better
QUAKE&SHAKE
09-20-2005, 05:48 PM
I think Ill wait for the mini-LST thats coming out.
bobf24
09-20-2005, 10:58 PM
anyone that can get yoke parts, can more than likely duratrax, sicne they are more than likely getting the yoke parts from great planes, great plaes is a distrubter as well as a plane company, they sell all kinds of companies, like duratrax, and yokomo,
JDAWG53
09-21-2005, 07:14 AM
Who Me
What is the race you are talking about? Got any info?
Thanks
WhoMe
09-21-2005, 07:37 AM
http://forums.radiocontrolzone.com/showthread.php?t=194562 Here is the link on this forum. Its all over One18th.com and a few other places...With an indoor carpet and dirt track...its gonna have somthing for both the onroad and offroad crowds.
USAxxxs
09-21-2005, 09:18 AM
Great planes? I dont wanna have to drive an hour to the nearest plane store. I think 5 mins for a part for a yoke sounds better
I dont think you understand what I am saying. Great Planes pretty much owns Duratrax. Any hobbyshop that has Duratrax on the shefl got it from one place...Great Planes. So parts are inhouse. Yokomo has to be ordered most of the time. Either way this vehicle is going to be good for the 1/18th market.
MaximumF350
09-21-2005, 10:08 AM
I dont think you understand what I am saying. Great Planes pretty much owns Duratrax. Any hobbyshop that has Duratrax on the shefl got it from one place...Great Planes. So parts are inhouse. Yokomo has to be ordered most of the time. Either way this vehicle is going to be good for the 1/18th market.
I don't understand what you are saying. Are you saying it is better to order the part from Yokomo than get it from your hobbyshop? Explain better, please.
USAxxxs
09-21-2005, 11:53 AM
The comment was made that if it were made by Yokomo the parts would be easier to get. I disagree seeing how Great Planes is Duratrax and would not have to order their own parts from another distributor. Yokomo has to be ordered mostly, unlike Duratrax. I am all for supporting my local shop. Their is not a hobbyshop out their that does not get most of its inventory directly from Great Planes.
Bart_Banaan
09-21-2005, 01:07 PM
Also available as FTX Blaze in the UK:
http://www.rc-junkies.nl/images/library/ftxblaze.jpg
http://www.cmldistribution.co.uk/product.php?id=1715&type=CAR
Combatcm
09-21-2005, 01:25 PM
What size are those wheel hexes, they look pretty big.
baileysmicro
09-21-2005, 04:13 PM
I think Ill wait for the mini-LST thats coming out.
any pics?
I'm really hoping that there next mini is a 4x4 with the sealed belt system just like the xxx-4 with a slipper
microrcdude
09-21-2005, 04:56 PM
[QUOTE=USAxxxs]I dont think you understand what I am saying. Great Planes pretty much owns Duratrax. Any hobbyshop that has Duratrax on the shefl got it from one place...Great Planes. QUOTE]
Yeah, no stranger to that
JDAWG53
09-22-2005, 07:09 AM
Thanks for the info on the race WHO ME
Combat 12mm
Mr. Schumacher
09-23-2005, 11:06 AM
This car is distributed by Yokomo in Japan! Named Yokomo MB-4. Masami tested drive it!!! Can't believe a world champion driving a Duratrax car!
http://www.teamyokomo.com/japan/news/mb01.jpg
http://www.teamyokomo.com/japan/news/mb04.jpg
http://www.teamyokomo.com/japan/news/mb03.jpg
http://www.teamyokomo.com/japan/news/mb02.jpg
http://www.teamyokomo.com/japan/news/mb05.jpg
http://www.teamyokomo.com/japan/news/mb06.jpg
Bappe
09-23-2005, 03:28 PM
well, you are all missing the best thing with this, it doesnt matter what it says on the box, yokomo, duratrax, lrp etc, its the same car, you can buy the lrp badged car, brake it, and then go to your lhs and buy the replacement part from dtx/yokomo etc, its the same part so does the name on the header card really matter? NO! i`m looking to buy one of these cars, i will buy the one that comes out with the lowest price and best electronics in the car. i dont give a s**t what name the box says, and, no one of these manufactures makes the car, a 3rd party company makes all the parts! so no one can say that because that "this" company releases the car, its sooo much better than the other! its perfect! :D :p
Natedog
09-23-2005, 11:59 PM
Looks pretty nice! Just needs an upper chassis brace from end to end. The suspension parts all look beefy and I love the gear cover for the motor pinion and spur gear!
I'll wait and see on this one, but if its anything like other Duratrax product, then its just going to be another cheap knockoff with poor quality control and inferior materials. They have just enough anodized parts and and stuff to fill a feature list that will fool unsuspecting buyers, but it's rarely the kind of quality you can expect from better companies.
elcid4300
09-24-2005, 09:51 AM
I'll wait and see on this one, but if its anything like other Duratrax product, then its just going to be another cheap knockoff with poor quality control and inferior materials. They have just enough anodized parts and and stuff to fill a feature list that will fool unsuspecting buyers, but it's rarely the kind of quality you can expect from better companies.
I've got plenty of Duratrax products that I would consider to be first rate products and far from "inferior" I also have some that are not that great, but the same could be said for any company really. Nothing wrong with not liking a particular product or voicing your opinion, but to say that they are "fooling unsuspecting buyers" is unfair.
littlebuddha
09-24-2005, 10:57 AM
wow, it looks great, i still like the fx or the yoke body better than the duratrax one though, its also got sealed spur gear! i hated the open pinion/spur design on the mini quake, it cost me many a spur gears. hopefully this should minimize maintainence work. the only thing is that i hope the have a slipper clutch stock or at least an option for it later.
Tamiya4ever
09-24-2005, 11:32 AM
So will Yokomo sell there buggy in the US?
Bappe
09-24-2005, 04:22 PM
I'll wait and see on this one, but if its anything like other Duratrax product, then its just going to be another cheap knockoff with poor quality control and inferior materials. They have just enough anodized parts and and stuff to fill a feature list that will fool unsuspecting buyers, but it's rarely the kind of quality you can expect from better companies.
yeah, the yokomo or lrp would be a better choice, its the same knockoff car with the same poor quality. they should be better LOL
(your post sound more like something that you have heard then personal experience with the products. i have personally driven the evadet st, which is a copy of a losi xxt a car that i have owned and driven for hours, and even if the evader isnt like the original, it was really nice on the track, and hold up well for the abuse that i put it trough, and the stress tech giarantee fixed the rest of the ninja jumps that i tested :) )
no seriously, if so many companies is marketing the same car, it should be a quite decent car, just buy the one with the best electronics in the box. or the one who sells the rolling chassis for the lowest price, this is one of the best things that i can see for now, several companies marketing the same car, it will make finding spare parts and other things sooooo much easier everywhere, and its possible to choose a car with just this and that speedo etc that you want out of the box. brilliant!
if anyone feels like bashing any brand in this thread, just think that its the same car you are bashing, so think one second more before you post your comment..
USAxxxs
09-24-2005, 11:31 PM
If you look at Duratraxs last few years you will see alot of improvement from years past. Most of the vehicles that were "cheap" at pretty much all discontinued now. For those that have not yet looked at any of the recent Duratrax releases here are a few key points that you should be aware of.
All Duratrax nitro vehicles come with everything needed but fuel
Aluminum threaded shocks on the Evader ST's and BX's
Full bearings on all the vehicles released in the past 3 years
The only company to offer a warrenty on certain suspension parts for up to a year, and the graphite versions warrenty EVERY suspension part for a year. You break it they replace it.
The only company at the time to have what to some is considered a PRO version vehicle with Futaba radios, Orion motors, and a low turn ESC all in a RTR package.
All current nitro vehicles are running an O.S. based .18
Dont get me wrong AE, Losi, Traxxas are all great companies but none offer everything you need in a nitro at the low price Duratrax has.
If none of what I just wrote matters keep this in mind. Team Associates Billy Easton worked for the Duratrax research and design team for awhile.
SomeRandomDude
09-24-2005, 11:34 PM
although its duratrax it looks nicer than kyoshos 1/18 scale buggy
MaxxThrasher
09-25-2005, 03:15 PM
If you look at Duratraxs last few years you will see alot of improvement from years past. Most of the vehicles that were "cheap" at pretty much all discontinued now. For those that have not yet looked at any of the recent Duratrax releases here are a few key points that you should be aware of.
All Duratrax nitro vehicles come with everything needed but fuel
Aluminum threaded shocks on the Evader ST's and BX's
Full bearings on all the vehicles released in the past 3 years
The only company to offer a warrenty on certain suspension parts for up to a year, and the graphite versions warrenty EVERY suspension part for a year. You break it they replace it.
The only company at the time to have what to some is considered a PRO version vehicle with Futaba radios, Orion motors, and a low turn ESC all in a RTR package.
All current nitro vehicles are running an O.S. based .18
Dont get me wrong AE, Losi, Traxxas are all great companies but none offer everything you need in a nitro at the low price Duratrax has.
If none of what I just wrote matters keep this in mind. Team Associates Billy Easton worked for the Duratrax research and design team for awhile.
Great perspective. I agree, Duratrax has improved in the past few years and I do really like the everything included for a low price concept. It does appeal to me. The few vehicles that I have purchased from Duratrax in the past few years have been of just as good of quality as those mentioned.
2fast2slow
09-25-2005, 06:54 PM
But will a Mamba 8000kv fit, and how will it compared to a RC18T with the same motor, on the track?
USAxxxs
09-26-2005, 10:43 AM
The RC18T/MT both come with a 380 motor. The Vendetta also comes with a 380, and the Mamba 8000 (competition X Package fits the RC18T/MT) so as far as I can tell the answer is yes. For how fast it will go is dependent on gearing and batts. Will it out perform the RC18T/MT? Wont know until they are released. Hope this helps.
2fast2slow
09-26-2005, 04:47 PM
But tower is selling them, so it must be out
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXLAB1**&P=7
And since it is bigger than the RC18T is should be able to handle better with a Mamba. But is it weighs more than the RC18T by about 100 grams, but that is not a lot, so speed different is about 2-3 mph. And since it is new it doesn't have alot of upgrades, and since it is a Duratrax is probably won't have alot od upgrades, like the RC18T has, But who knows what Duratrax might.
USAxxxs
09-26-2005, 07:26 PM
But tower is selling them, so it must be out
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXLAB1**&P=7
And since it is bigger than the RC18T is should be able to handle better with a Mamba. But is it weighs more than the RC18T by about 100 grams, but that is not a lot, so speed different is about 2-3 mph. And since it is new it doesn't have alot of upgrades, and since it is a Duratrax is probably won't have alot od upgrades, like the RC18T has, But who knows what Duratrax might.
Check the right side of the screen when you look at Tower again. It says Stock Status is MID NOVEMBER.
The speed is in relation to the over all gear ratio of the vehicle. The weight has to be put into consideration when they create them. Even if it does carry 100 grams more that is minor in relation to the fact that it comes with aluminum and the RC18T/MT do not. I hope the little thing screams with a brushless system installed. But I guess we will have to wait until November to see. I am sure plenty of people already have plans to go brushless / li-poly when it comes out.
2fast2slow
09-26-2005, 07:51 PM
But will it be the best handling stock 1/18 out, is the question?
rckid11
09-26-2005, 08:12 PM
Probably if the H8 isn't included(H8 is alot bigger than this).
USAxxxs
09-26-2005, 09:19 PM
But will it be the best handling stock 1/18 out, is the question?
It would be nice if it was the best handling. The only problem with that is when most people up the power on the 1/18th scales they blame the vehicle rather than the fact that they cant drive something with a ton of power. Actually driving a vehicle is the key factor in how it really handles alot of power. I think that it will handle great even in box stock form since it has a low CG. I cant wait for them to release it, I will be one of the first to over power it and see how it does :D Its easier to make a vehicle slower than faster.
Duster_360
09-27-2005, 04:27 PM
It sure looks familar to me - I have 2 Mini-Quakes and this has the same ESC, same radio, same low capacity 600mah NiCd batt, same 380 motor and I'm betting that's the same 3 hr wall charger. It looks like nearly the same chassis but with diff shock towers and suspensions on both ends and yes, different front suspension arms from what little I can see - pray those are stronger and up to the job - ditto for the rear suspension arms. DT apparently listened to all the feedback (complaints) and added a gear box cover, too.
The ESC I got with my 1st MQ had no braking - it went to full reverse for brakes, toasting outdrives with regularity until DT upgraded those. That seemed to solve the breakage, but still no brakes. Wonder if they solved that prob?? DT laid the blame on the MQ ESC supplier, but this looks like the same one from the MQ.
The other major prob with a MQ was weak drive shafts - solved with DT alum CVDs - but they cost you an additional $54 to fix that prob. Knuckles were weak too - also fixed by an alum upgrade, $36/pr. Right now, waiting on alum front suspension arms to fix that breakage prob.
DT was good about standing behind the MQ with their stress-tech warranty. After they got my name in their system, all I had to do was call and replacements were on the way. Sure that will be no diff for this one. Gotta have the gear box cover from one of these!
USAxxxs
09-27-2005, 09:49 PM
Duster....Good input. We have to consider the fact that we have knowledge of more than one company putting their name on the Vendetta. I would think that this vehicle went through a little more testing than the MQ if Yokomo is also putting their name on it. The way I see it is that all the vehicles that hit the market (that most of us can afford) will have some flaws. This could also be the big brain thinking from the marketing department of the manufacturers to make us buy the aftermarket parts. I honestly cant think of one r/c that didnt need something changed after it was good and broken in. Heck...I run X-ray sedans and to my dismay to be competitive I end up spending a ton of money on sway bars,top plates, chassis and springs on top of purchasing a almost $400 rolling chassis.
Also like I mentioned above...driving is the key. Some of us will beat a car to death and spend alot repairing/beefing it up. Not everyone will go through that.
Mid November is to long to wait... I sure hope this ends up being the real deal. If not I can see the hop-ups getting added immediately just so that I can make myself feel better about the initial purchase!!
PeterV
09-30-2005, 03:08 PM
VENDETTA VIDEO IS UP! See the index page, www.rccaraction.com. Right click to save, you know the drill.
freemachinist
10-01-2005, 07:35 AM
Didn't anyone notice...IT COMES WITH A DIRT COVER!!! I love the RC18, but when can I get one. My stable must go 1/18. No more single digit scales unless it huge! 1/18th or 1/5th, I'll go to both ends of the spectrum.
crazyjr
10-01-2005, 01:34 PM
Maybe they're tring to set up a world spec class of scale racing. Doesnt matter what you prefer, you will have a car to race.
freemachinist
10-02-2005, 06:04 AM
"Squeaal" I just can't wait for the unlimited class in micros. Can you imagine? I've had my RC18 up to 63mph. This could lead to some sick racing.
NitroBoy24
10-03-2005, 10:14 AM
If the Vendetta runs the same drivetrain (gear ratio wise) as the Mini Quake the Mamba will not be a good choice. I own a Mini Quake (stock motor on a 2400mah 7.4V lipo pack) and am a frequent poster on one18th.com's boards and the Mamba is NOT a good choice for the MQ. It runs a 380 sized motor like the Vendetta and the mamba is designed to replace 180-280 sized motors (or something like that). Therefore, unless you raise the gear ratio a lot it will cog under acceleration. So, your top speed will be the same as stock making it basically worthless. The Golden Horizons brushless motors with the Mamba ESC seem to be a good match for the MQ if you want to go BL on a budget.
But if the gear ratio is higher (similar to a RC18T, Mini t, etc) the Mamba should work.
USAxxxs
10-08-2005, 09:26 PM
I think Ill wait for the mini-LST thats coming out.
Well now I have to make the decision on what to get......this is the best time of year for R/C all the new releases coming out before x-mas. Companies fighting for you dollars. Mini LST, Vendetta Buggy, Xray nitro mini sedan........... decisions decisions.
freemachinist
10-15-2005, 06:48 AM
Mambas cog because they are crappy brushless motors with no sensor. Do not fool yourself. If you want to run a mamba go ahead, just be sure to adjust the "timing" to extreme. Manufacturers are only putting in a 380 as a selling point. Its like buying a savage truck with a .46 instead of the stock .25 engine. You do not really have to adjust your gearing...you need to beef up the drive train.
elcid4300
10-15-2005, 09:32 AM
Mambas cog because they are crappy brushless motors with no sensor. Do not fool yourself. If you want to run a mamba go ahead, just be sure to adjust the "timing" to extreme.
This is simply untrue. I have 2 Mambas and have had no issues with them. When they first came out they had some issues when using sub par batteries (A software ungrade soon cured most everyone's problems). 9 times out of 10, when someone has a problem with a Mamba it's related to the user and if you do have a problem, Castle Creations' customer service is second to none. I have heard of them fixing second hand units well out of warranty for no charge! You don't have to like your Mamba, but to call it "crappy" is extreme.
Combatcm
10-15-2005, 11:00 AM
I sent castle a CM motor with a broken shaft, they sent me another no questions asked.
2mcgrath
10-18-2005, 11:08 AM
i like the way it looks..looks alot like a 1/8 buggy..and looks very well built.i wish they would make a 1/18 evader st.that would be nice
Baja-Destroyer
10-18-2005, 03:24 PM
this looks alot nicer than the rc18b and i mean alot nicer
Techpriest
10-20-2005, 03:53 PM
Let's clear some stuff up now that more info is out...
"The RC18T/MT both come with a 380 motor."
They come with "Super 370" motors. This buggy has the same size motor as the Half8, not the 18T.
"Probably if the H8 isn't included(H8 is alot bigger than this)."
The H8 is 10mm longer then the Vendetta and 17mm wider. I would consider that only a little bit bigger.
"since it is a Duratrax is probably won't have alot od upgrades"
They already have a whole list of upgrades including graphite chassis, ball diffs, aluminum arms, graphite driveshaft, and many more. Check out Duratrax's website. Again, upgrades made for the LRP and Yokomo buggy will fit the Duratrax one.
Parts availability will depend on where you live. In the US, Duratrax will be easiest to get. Yokomo USA does not have the MB-4 listed. If you go to their Japanese site it states the MB-4 is not for export (from Japan). I don't see any US distributors stocking up on parts for a buggy they can't sell here. Same with the LRP, the US LRP site has no mention of it. But if you want to get a Shark-18 or MB-4 and have it sent to the US, go for it! You will still be able to get parts in the US, just order the Duratrax ones.
I love the idea of the same buggy being offered all over the world. The more parts they can sell, the cheaper the parts will be and the more upgrades they will offer.
Duster_360
10-20-2005, 05:46 PM
The big prob with the MQ and a installing mamba is due to the metric pitch gearing that comes with the MQ. Its 48 pitch and not popular which limits your pinion choices - DT only offers only 2 optional pinions a 13t and a 19t and stock is 16t. This is why the 1/18th '05 Nats winner running a MQ with a 5400 Mamba swapped to the RS4 steel pinions after moddin an RC18 spur to fit in the MQ - the more common pitch used by AE puts a lot more flexibility in getting it geared correctly for performance and to avoid any cogging issues, you can get pinions from 8 to 13t one tooth at a time.
If they have stayed with this 48pitch gears for the Vendetta, this same issue will exist for converting it to a mamba.
rckid11
10-20-2005, 06:06 PM
Let's clear some stuff up now that more info is out...
"The RC18T/MT both come with a 380 motor."
They come with "Super 370" motors. This buggy has the same size motor as the Half8, not the 18T.
"Probably if the H8 isn't included(H8 is alot bigger than this)."
The H8 is 10mm longer then the Vendetta and 17mm wider. I would consider that only a little bit bigger.
"since it is a Duratrax is probably won't have alot od upgrades"
They already have a whole list of upgrades including graphite chassis, ball diffs, aluminum arms, graphite driveshaft, and many more. Check out Duratrax's website. Again, upgrades made for the LRP and Yokomo buggy will fit the Duratrax one.
Parts availability will depend on where you live. In the US, Duratrax will be easiest to get. Yokomo USA does not have the MB-4 listed. If you go to their Japanese site it states the MB-4 is not for export (from Japan). I don't see any US distributors stocking up on parts for a buggy they can't sell here. Same with the LRP, the US LRP site has no mention of it. But if you want to get a Shark-18 or MB-4 and have it sent to the US, go for it! You will still be able to get parts in the US, just order the Duratrax ones.
I love the idea of the same buggy being offered all over the world. The more parts they can sell, the cheaper the parts will be and the more upgrades they will offer.
Show me a comparison pic because the Vendetta looks alot smaller than my H8 in the pic...
Techpriest
10-20-2005, 09:48 PM
Show me a comparison pic because the Vendetta looks alot smaller than my H8 in the pic...
Kyosho Half-8
Length 270mm
Width 173mm
Height 100mm
Weight 800g
Vendetta/Shark-18/MB-4
Length 260mm
Width 160mm
Height 95mm
Weight 665g
These are from the Kyosho and Duratax websites.
Here is a picture of the two side by side. (http://www.one18th.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=15487)
The Half8 has larger tires. Look at the chassis and ignore the tires and you will see that they are as the specs say they are, about the same size.
The problem with saying this buggy is 1/18 and that buggy is 1/16 is that they are 1/16 the size of what? Is there a real buggy someplace these measurements are being taken from? If so I would love to see one!
Combatcm
10-22-2005, 07:44 AM
The problem with saying this buggy is 1/18 and that buggy is 1/16 is that they are 1/16 the size of what? Is there a real buggy someplace these measurements are being taken from? If so I would love to see one!
They are just trying to be cute calling it "half 8" as in half 8th scale, which is 1/16. It satisfies most people,
"How fast does it go and what scale is it?"
TimJohnson
12-02-2005, 12:28 AM
Kyosho Half-8
Length 270mm
Width 173mm
Height 100mm
Weight 800g
Vendetta/Shark-18/MB-4
Length 260mm
Width 160mm
Height 95mm
Weight 665g
These are from the Kyosho and Duratax websites.
Here is a picture of the two side by side. (http://www.one18th.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=15487)
The Half8 has larger tires. Look at the chassis and ignore the tires and you will see that they are as the specs say they are, about the same size.
The problem with saying this buggy is 1/18 and that buggy is 1/16 is that they are 1/16 the size of what? Is there a real buggy someplace these measurements are being taken from? If so I would love to see one!
The Kyosho was ment to be Half the size of the 1/8th scale 777 inferno.
Techpriest
12-02-2005, 07:28 AM
The Kyosho was ment to be Half the size of the 1/8th scale 777 inferno.
That's their marketing pitch, and from the number of times I have read it repeated as fact I must say they did a heck of a job. You can't use those designations to really know how big anything is. It's just made up numbers. I am not knocking Kyosho, that is standard practice and one something like the kind of vehicle we are discussing, there is no 1/1 vehicle to prove anybody wrong.
Kyosho MP 777 496mm long
Kyosho MP 777 307mm wide
496/2 =248
307/2 =153.5
Kyosho Half8 270mm long, not 248.
Kyosho Half8 173mm wide, not 153.5
If the 1/8 buggy is "really" 1/8 then the Half8 is "really" between 1/14 and 1/15 scale and the Vendetta is between 1/15 and 1/16. Instead of 2 scales smaller (1/16 to 1/18) it is really less then 1 scale smaller.
TimJohnson
12-02-2005, 08:06 AM
That's their marketing pitch, and from the number of times I have read it repeated as fact I must say they did a heck of a job. You can't use those designations to really know how big anything is. It's just made up numbers. I am not knocking Kyosho, that is standard practice and one something like the kind of vehicle we are discussing, there is no 1/1 vehicle to prove anybody wrong.
Kyosho MP 777 496mm long
Kyosho MP 777 307mm wide
496/2 =248
307/2 =153.5
Kyosho Half8 270mm long, not 248.
Kyosho Half8 173mm wide, not 153.5
If the 1/8 buggy is "really" 1/8 then the Half8 is "really" between 1/14 and 1/15 scale and the Vendetta is between 1/15 and 1/16. Instead of 2 scales smaller (1/16 to 1/18) it is really less then 1 scale smaller.
LOL.........Nice...........agreed................. ..You know a full sized inferno like buggy, would be nuts..............anyhow....>great point.
Techpriest
12-02-2005, 09:27 AM
Heck yeah, full sized 4wd buggy that could do 240mph over an off-road course (30mph x 8)!
Tower has pushed the Vendetta back again. Other places have been selling it for over a week, what's their deal? My LHS orders from Great Planes so until I see it at Tower I know not to bother them for it. I am also not able to find the clear body anyplace. At least is it cold here so I am not missing nice weather waiting for it. Good news is I have an indoor off-road track close by.
Found this looking around the web. Same buggy in RTR, ARR and KIT!!! form. No prices though.
Anderson MB4 (http://www.waigohobby.com/products/product.php?brand=Anderson&name=MB4)
Baja-Destroyer
12-03-2005, 11:42 PM
my lhs has had them for like 2 weeks
Interceptor
12-04-2005, 01:39 AM
With out reading through 100+ pages, I just picked one of these little guys up today, and its great. Suprisingly fast for a little car, and the suspension is butter smooth. Now, If I can just find a clear body to paint my own... I'll start getting faster parts for it soon, replace the motor with a mod, better bats, and lighter radio gear (gonna tie it into my Lynx 3d). Hopefully we can get a few guys at the track to start running them. Should be a blast.
Interceptor
12-04-2005, 12:34 PM
Just got back from the track and ran the Vendetta. That litle thing is a blast to drive on the track. It handles pretty good out of the box. When jumping, it likes to dip the nose a little depending on the angle of the jump. I figure that I can fix this by adjusting the suspension. I'll get with some of the guys at the shop and work on it sometime. The stock motor is fast. I want to go up a tooth or two on the pinion and see what happens, but I need to get a better battery first. I really hope we can get enough 1/18 scale cars to have a race. We could have a dozen of them on the track at the same time!
smeghead
12-17-2005, 03:33 PM
Just to set everyone straight here the car with all this interest is in fact manufactured by Anderson the same people who manufacture the mrx4
which is marketed as the mini quake by Dura trax and various other brand names all the parts are manufactured from the same materials the only thing that makes them any different is the electronics and packaging
So it is the same for the Dura trax vendetta which Anderson,the manufacture call the mb4 they then sell this product to the likes of Yokomo Duratrax and anyone else who would like to slap there name on it and market it so no difference in the rolling chassis just go for the cheepest one do yourselfs a favor then you can use more money to tweek it...
hope this sets things straight
by the way they are all up to it just look at the venom/schumacer mini giant
have fun dont spend to much be wise and have FUN the authorities hate it :rolleyes:
guver
12-17-2005, 11:07 PM
would you happen to know who makes the ice charger for duratrax? thanks
smeghead
12-18-2005, 06:00 AM
would you happen to know who makes the ice charger for duratrax? thanks
Sorry you got me there looks like one MFA do for the planes .
I can tell you that its a damn good charger ,i have one .
I have used it to match cheep cells by there internal resistence and it works a treat the cells were better than my Peak matched cells i think internal resistence is overlooked in the matching process to much on mah and voltage.
Any ways for the money you cant go wrong with the Ice charger, maybe check out the specs of the mfa one for comparison the aircraft people will not pay through the nose ...so it should be cheeper
good luck
;)
guver
12-18-2005, 11:13 PM
Thanks, I have 2
J_Bone
12-20-2005, 08:48 PM
Sorry you got me there looks like one MFA do for the planes .
I can tell you that its a damn good charger ,i have one .
I have used it to match cheep cells by there internal resistence and it works a treat the cells were better than my Peak matched cells i think internal resistence is overlooked in the matching process to much on mah and voltage.
Any ways for the money you cant go wrong with the Ice charger, maybe check out the specs of the mfa one for comparison the aircraft people will not pay through the nose ...so it should be cheeper
good luck
;)
MFA?? Where can I look this up?
JDAWG53
12-21-2005, 07:31 AM
First off let me clear up that the Mini Quake and the Vendetta are not the same chassis and don't share many parts. The Vendetta is not just a Mini Quake with different wheels and tires.
Secondly, who cares who makes the cars as long as they work. DuraTrax has the exclusive rights to the car for the U.S. just like Yokomo has the exclusive for somewhere else. So you will not find a Yokomo version sitting on the shelf at you local hobby shop. You should feel good about buying the Duratrax car because it was good enough that Yokomo felt confident in putting their name on it.
Guys, this happens all the time in this market. This is nothing new.
This is a great little car and has tons of race potential.
smeghead
12-22-2005, 11:57 AM
model flight association
or try a search for "triton charger" google is normally quite good
;)
Bappe
12-28-2005, 05:12 AM
well the car is sold under several brands, duratrax, anderson, yokomo, lrp and FTX. I`m looking to buy the car as a kit with motor only, and the lowest i have found i $75 on rcmart under the anderson branding.
zakerid
12-28-2005, 06:14 AM
i've seen this buggy at the hobby shop... I must say it is a nice looking vehicle.
Greg15
01-01-2006, 01:49 PM
Yokomo also sell the Ice under their name in Japan only. It looks alot better then under the Duratrax name, although I do have 3 Ice's and love them. My Anderson MB4 is on the way now:)
Duster_360
01-01-2006, 02:46 PM
Ultimate Hobbies is having a one day sale, today only on the Vendetta among others.
http://www.ultimatehobbies.com//l128.html
Casey
01-04-2006, 08:54 PM
Could someone measure the distance center-to-center of the mounting holes in the wing? Thanks in advance.
Duster_360
01-06-2006, 07:38 PM
I just got mine this evening, that center to center distance looks like its 0.775in or 19.7mm. I measured it with pair of calipers between the casting makes on the posts that stick thru the wing.
It looks like these upper arms are going to be easily adapter to the MQ and fix that design flaw. Waiting on batt to charge. Like the color (green/yellow) that Ultimate sent me, cool!
Casey
01-06-2006, 08:01 PM
I just got mine this evening, that center to center distance looks like its 0.775in or 19.7mm. I measured it with pair of calipers between the casting makes on the posts that stick thru the wing.
Thanks!
bigair78
01-17-2006, 08:41 PM
I'm thinking of getting one of these and had a few questions.
Do the mambas mount up pretty easy?
Will the stock motor fit in my mini-t?
Has anyone established any weak points for the buggy yet?
Thanks in advance.
MaximumF350
01-18-2006, 10:58 PM
Do the mambas mount up pretty easy?
They mount up no problem. The only issue you may have is the can being too long. In that case, use a micro servo.
Will the stock motor fit in my mini-t?
No, the Vendetta uses a 380 size motor, the Mini-T uses 370 and smaller.
Has anyone established any weak points for the buggy yet?
Same issues as with the Mini Quake
1. Driveshafts, boiling helps make them more flexible. Aluminum ones are available.
2. Steering Knuckles, boiling would also help, some people put a screw in them to strengthen them, aluminum ones are also available.
3. Shocks, some say they leak, my Mini Quake ones did, aluminum ones are more consistant and smoother.
4. Radio gear/battery, same as in the Mini Quake, ESC has no brakes, battery is only 600mah. These shouldn't be an issue if you are going brushless, I'm sure you will be changing the electronics. I would suggest buying the kit version from ebay or www.rcmart.com. It is the Anderson MB4. It does not come with any of the radio gear. It will save you some money.
philp37
02-20-2006, 06:48 AM
I wonder if Duratrax is coming with a stadium truck version to fit in between the Vendetta and mini Quake. Like Associated has with their RC18 series.
Duster_360
02-28-2006, 09:25 PM
I just finished running - finally gotten all the bugs worked out of my 1st BL setup. I'm running a heli BL motor, Cool Red 3500, with an Integy 20C 1500mah 7.4v Lipo, and Mamba 25 ESC and OMG, it's so fast I can hardly believe it. I have a totally hopped up, brushed MQ and this just blows the doors off of the MQ!! Not even close!
The throtle channel needed to be reversed and the motor wiring swapped - before when I would try, it seemed faster in rev than fwd. The Mamba would'nt arm correctly. Now, its right and it flies - I have unglued 3 of 4 tires in 15min of running. Motor just barely warm, and no cogging whatsoever.
The really neat thing was Cool Red motor was only $25 - apparently Hobby Lobby was discontinuing them and had them on sale.
guver
03-31-2006, 12:59 PM
I keep breaking the rear shafts on mine, I see that they are binding on the outdrives when suspension is bottomed out and have moved shocks to outside hole. Hopefully this helps. This buggy is quite improvement over the MQ for durability, but I am nearly fed up with both. rant, rant,,,
Duster_360
04-01-2006, 05:25 PM
My Detta has been real solid, I'm still running the stock shafts - haven't yet installed the CVDs I bought. May well do that just for something to do, but mine has been super, especially after started running the X belted radials - most of my running is concrete. I had to stiffen it up and increase gnd clearance by moving stocks to more vertical position and will get the firm springs next week. This thing just rocks!
I totally agree, Detta is a far better piece of work that the MQ was. It took a lot of time and money to make my orig MQ just decent. I'm hoping my new MQ SE will fall in the middle.
guver
04-01-2006, 08:21 PM
Just got a 20 minute run and no breaky,,,
guver
04-12-2006, 08:21 PM
I've been beating my detta to death and the only breakage now is the spoiler mount. I crash it multiple times per run rolling over and over. All seems well.
I just converted it to 12 volts and will see how it holds up, hopefully better than the MQ as my 12 volt mq breaks every run. The detta so far has only 1 - 12 volt run.
RCGuru1
04-19-2006, 01:36 AM
thinking about getting this car and wanna know best hop ups to buy when purchasing besides larger battery
Racing t
04-19-2006, 04:44 PM
[QUOTE=MaximumF350]Do the mambas mount up pretty easy?
They mount up no problem. The only issue you may have is the can being too long. In that case, use a micro servo.
][QUOTE]
Dosent have any problems with pinions size?
gigacrush
04-25-2006, 09:15 PM
got a vendetta. i might be looking to swap it for a mini quake if anyone is intresed.my only complaint is it bottoms out to easy. im going to try heavier shock oil.but other wise its a great car. i have also added a venom batt pack. and the run time has doubled almost. i get about 30- 40 min run time total with the stock motor but its way faster with the new pack.
i have close to 12 runs total on it and have only broken one front knuckle. i fixed it with a kyosho ball from my madforce for the time being wile my new parts come in
guver
04-25-2006, 10:45 PM
I would be interested in trading, we could each keep our TX and all batts.
gigacrush
04-27-2006, 09:06 PM
would you be able to post some pics. and yes i would have to keep my radio and batts also.ill post some pics on sunday for you. or i could e mail you them. contact me at oceanviewniag@aol.com. i have a 100 %feedback rating on ebay also if you need to look at it let me know.and does the mini quake have any hopups. my vendetta is almost new and is all stock besides the batts and radio/reciver
guver
04-27-2006, 09:09 PM
same here with the MQ, all stock and like brand new.
http://forums.radiocontrolzone.com/showpost.php?p=1702292&postcount=6
Which channel you have?
gigacrush
04-28-2006, 07:26 PM
i use a kopropo helios. for my remote and reciver . so any channel i really need.verry nice pics. trucks looks bran new.ill get you some pics sun. the only thing im missing is the box and the instructions. for the buggy. also is the red and yellow version.
Stormbasher3100
05-08-2006, 10:28 AM
Dosent have any problems with pinions size?
I know that the MQ had problems with the gearing and cogging with the mamba. The vendetta has an identical drivetrain but duratrax has made a 11t pinion for the vendetta that should eliminate the gearing problem and possibly eliminate cogging with the mamba.
MaximumF350
05-08-2006, 11:44 AM
The diffs are different. They are not the same ratio.
^j!nx^
05-18-2006, 05:59 PM
just got 3 vendettas today. 1 for me, 1 for my younger brother, and 1 for my 5yo son. I must say I am very impressed with its performance. Both my brother and I have raced moded miniTs and the vendetta stock can smoke our moded Ts with no problems.
I only have 2 questions.
1) are the duratrax motors any good? high rpm, and ultra high rpm.
2) will side by side packs fit? or only shotgun. I wanna order some new packs but would rather solder up my own to save some cost.
guver
05-19-2006, 01:48 AM
sxs pack won't fit. A lipo is the best deal at around $20. the stock motors are good, I use a MQ in one of mine and 3S lipo.
snshampton
06-12-2006, 08:13 PM
the ultra high rpm motor is awsome
gigacrush
06-16-2006, 11:22 PM
if you want to order some new batts . i suggest that you get 2 aerobird (hobbico) packs. and chop them up . make shure the packs are 2500 mah. i paid about 22.00 for a pair of packs off e bay.the pach are 8.4 and are a stacked pack. so they will need to come apart to fit.the stock speedo can handle up to 8.4 volt.
i run a dfferent esc. and it hauls .but the run time is unbelivable along with the instant punch. i also run atomic cvds i ordered them from rcmart 11.90 a pair.all steel and rebuildable.hers some pics.
gigacrush
06-16-2006, 11:26 PM
alos i found that if you snap a ball off the hub carrier. you can use kyosho ball links for a replacement. youll need to drill a hole and tap it for it to work right. and its stronger than the original plastic balls. i belive 6.8mm
racer030
07-17-2006, 11:22 PM
I just bought my detta. i have heard manything on the dogboes and diff being torn up. what are the man thing in the drivetrain to upgrade?cvd?outdrives?
Duster_360
07-21-2006, 02:59 PM
The cvds are weak and the plastic outdrives break. The DTX cvds I bought are garbage and were a waste of $60. The shafts are thin and bend easy and mine bind at the cup/ball when they get any dirt/silt in them at all and that causes it to start hopping. Have to stop and clean them with a blast of motor spray to get going again. Supposedly, there's a new generation DTX cvd being sold - thicker shaft and better cup/ball design, but DTX won't get any more of my bucks. I can break a boatload of plastic ones for $60 bucks, lol!!
There is a guy selling metal outdrives on ebay - if you search, you should be able to find him.
Mine has runs a 3500 brushless/lipo setup. Drive train probs get worse as you feed it more and more power (GH4700 motor for example). Others have had probs with breaking the knuckles, but so far I haven't had that prob.
civicwil
07-26-2006, 09:12 AM
What are people doing for the 11 tooth pinion gears from Duratrax to have it fit the
smaller Mamba shaft?
Thanks Wil
Duster_360
07-26-2006, 06:54 PM
Lots are using the Mamba esc with a BL motor with a 2.3mm shaft that will directly use the stock pinions like a Golden Horizons 3600 or 4700 or a Hyperion. You'll come out spending a little more - the Mamba 25 and my GH 3600 $135, but you can use any 2.3mm metric 48pitch pinion. I guess that's same as a Competiotion X pkg and $16 more than the others.
If you want to use the Mamba motor, you'll need to make/find an adapter that will be 2.3mm OD and 2.0mmID. There was heli place, Sparrow Products that made them, but they've closed. Supposedly one of the Rad Shack cars has a 2.0mm pinion, but I've never run into anyone actually who has used one - they don't have much of any selection on size.
My Mamba motor went in my Xray M18MT which uses 2.0mm pinions. Yeah, before you get your hopes up - Xray is non-metric, so even though its same 48 pitch, it won't work - ones metric (MQ and Vendetta), other non-metric - XRay and others.
civicwil
07-27-2006, 07:45 AM
Thank you Duster_360, I think I'll save the Mamba for my Micro RS4.
It seems I have more motor than I needed for this anyway.
I'll check into the GH and Hyperion BLs.
Thank You,
Wil.
civicwil
08-08-2006, 03:29 PM
Here is my Vendetta with the Golden Horizons 4700kv Brushless :D
Thanks Duster_360 this went together perfectly with the Duratrax Pinion. :)
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j240/civicwil/th_Shiney08-6-06006.jpg (http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j240/civicwil/Shiney08-6-06006.jpg)
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j240/civicwil/th_Shiney08-6-06005.jpg (http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j240/civicwil/Shiney08-6-06005.jpg)
Duster_360
08-08-2006, 08:26 PM
You're welcome! Being able to use stock pinion makes all the diff, you can also now use RRP metric pinions - available in up to 24t if you want to gear it up!
I sure have enjoyed the BL setup in mine. The near 30min run time off the 1500 lipo is sure nice.
Duster_360
08-24-2006, 06:09 PM
Anybody know if one18th.com is coming back, or is it gone??
Duster_360
08-28-2006, 08:20 PM
Case anyone wants to know - One18th.com is back up and running again.
Racing t
09-02-2006, 12:46 AM
thanks, good to know
Hey guys! I'm planning on getting a Vendetta.
Don't like the plastic clips that hold the upper ends of the shocks...
I guess I can use a 2mm round head machine screw, a 2mm locknut and a spacer (around 2-3mm x 6mm?) to replace the plastic clip but do I have to put anything in the hole of the upper Shock Cap since the hole is definitely more than 2 or 3mm?
Will this (DuraTrax Pivot Ball 3.8mm for Vendetta) fit?
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bi...p?&I=LXLLW8&P=Z
ttppll
10-04-2006, 09:31 AM
Just buy this:
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXLXY8&P=Z
Works great!
Thanks bro!
That's exactly what I want! (tho a bit pricey...)
glowhead777
10-06-2006, 10:52 AM
I have a stock Vendetta; rear outdrive snapped, I understand DT's alum. outdrives are junk, so who makes a good aluminum alternative to the stock plastic? Also, I have an unused Mamba 6700 motor and ESC that I'd like to install, but where exactly do I get a pinion that will work with the Vendetta? Also, where are you guys getting these cool-looking replacement wheels/tires? My son will mostly run it on pavement, so dirt tires won't last.
The drive shaft set from DuraTrax includes the the outdrives.
Atomic makes the strong steel drive shafts but outdrives aren't included...
What if I just want to get the metal outdrives?
Duster_360
10-12-2006, 12:07 PM
I have a stock Vendetta; rear outdrive snapped, I understand DT's alum. outdrives are junk, so who makes a good aluminum alternative to the stock plastic? Also, I have an unused Mamba 6700 motor and ESC that I'd like to install, but where exactly do I get a pinion that will work with the Vendetta? Also, where are you guys getting these cool-looking replacement wheels/tires? My son will mostly run it on pavement, so dirt tires won't last.
Kyosho makes 48 pitch metric pinions for a 2mm shaft motor - thats what you'll need to run the Mamba in your Vendetta. They were announced in the Nov RCCA back in the micro section, p196. P/N IHW33, 12, 14, 16. Thats the only option I'm aware of - most use the mamba esc with a 2.3mm shaft bl motor (Golden Horizons, Wraith, Hyperion, etc) to avoid the pinion problem.
I bought a set of DTX alum cvds early before everyone realized they were junk - def avoid those, they're thin and bend easily. Mine had a binding prob too - waste of money.
I run almost exclusively on pavement and use HPI mini-star wheels and HPI X pattern belted 1/18th tires. I've got a lot of time on them and there is a little wear, but not much. Only thing - you'll have to add a washer between the wheel and the hex - the wheel hex will bottom on the suspension and bind otherwise. You may want to do a little reading over here, great site with tons of 'Detta advice -
http://www.one18th.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33325
Duster_360
10-12-2006, 12:11 PM
The drive shaft set from DuraTrax includes the the outdrives.
Atomic makes the strong steel drive shafts but outdrives aren't included...
What if I just want to get the metal outdrives?
There was someone on Ebay who was selling metal outdrives - several on the one18th forums had bought from him and were pleased with how quick he got them shipped and the outdrives. They were alum. Try searching ebay and see if you cabn turn him up, lmk if you can't and I'll see if I can find it.
vaderbxman
10-19-2006, 03:44 PM
Well, if anyone has read it yet, but their is a nice article in the latest RC Car Action mag talking about hop-ups and things to get for it. I might have to make my little brother's vendetta just like this one.
Duster_360
10-19-2006, 09:10 PM
Read it as soon as it arrived. Was disappointed, not very creative - just get all the DTX alum hopups made and bolt them on. With the advertising though, I guess I shouldn't have been surprised.
There's better solutions to the weak areas/probs over on the 'Detta thread on one18th.com. Lots more creative too.
vaderbxman
10-20-2006, 09:05 AM
True, now that i've looked back at it, it's a little informative. But it's nice to see some aftermarket stuff for the detta all in one place.
Se_12alty
10-31-2006, 09:58 PM
Hey guys, I was wondering if any of you would know if the Detta Ultra High RPM motor would work with my reef racer 2 esc. http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXMMN7&P=7
Thank in advance
Se_12alty
11-03-2006, 11:36 AM
anyone? Vendetta Ultra High RPM motor on my reef racer 2 esc? Would it handle it?
Duster_360
11-03-2006, 12:15 PM
I've run that motor on the stock DTX esc that comes in the Mini-Quake or Vendetta and its running with a futaba mc330cr esc right now. Neither have had probs handling the VR3 motor. I'm not familar with your esc - check the specs? Maybe try emailing Hobbico?
t9dragon
11-06-2006, 12:12 PM
Here are a few pics of my Vendetta and some mods and upgrades I have done to it.
VR3 Motor
C/F Steering Link
Mini-T MIP CVD's (all 4)
Mini Lst Front Hubs
Mini Inferno Rear Hubs
All New Bearings
HPI Wheels(NEW)
Mini Quake Tires
Stock Wheels/Tires
Spare Stock Motor
IB 1200 6 cell Battery
New Adjustable Turnbuckles and Ball Ends
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k294/t9dragon/Picture1694.jpg
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k294/t9dragon/Picture201692.jpg
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k294/t9dragon/Picture1693.jpg
Duster_360
11-06-2006, 07:30 PM
Looking Good!!
Like the wheels - I have a set of HPI Super Star spoked black rims, but I went with the Dirt Hawgs for tires. Haven't mounted them yet, but looking at how nice they look on yours, maybe soon. Did you re-gear any at all? I was planning on using these on both 'Detta and a truggy version of my MQ. Last question, did you have to buy those expensive brgs to fit the mini-t cvds or did using mini-lst front hubs let you use stock brgs - what about brg in the rear?? Well maybe one more ques - were both the f&R hubs just a swap or did you have to mod them? Way to go, gets rid of this buggy's only real weak links!
Mine has a cool Red 3500 BL heli motor, mamba 25 and runs 1700mah lipo. I just got the ball diffs today - finally blew front gear diff last time I ran it. Be a few days til get chance to install them. Raining here anyway....
thinking about buying one and was wondering about the up grades
t9dragon
11-10-2006, 12:33 PM
Looking Good!!
Like the wheels - I have a set of HPI Super Star spoked black rims, but I went with the Dirt Hawgs for tires. Haven't mounted them yet, but looking at how nice they look on yours, maybe soon. Did you re-gear any at all? I was planning on using these on both 'Detta and a truggy version of my MQ. Last question, did you have to buy those expensive brgs to fit the mini-t cvds or did using mini-lst front hubs let you use stock brgs - what about brg in the rear?? Well maybe one more ques - were both the f&R hubs just a swap or did you have to mod them? Way to go, gets rid of this buggy's only real weak links!
Mine has a cool Red 3500 BL heli motor, mamba 25 and runs 1700mah lipo. I just got the ball diffs today - finally blew front gear diff last time I ran it. Be a few days til get chance to install them. Raining here anyway....
I traded for the Vendetta and it already had the mods done to it. I'm not sure if the gearing has been changed or not. What is the stock gearing? If you want to chat about it. Hit me up on yahoo screen name nindragon992 or AIM screen name t9dragon2006
Duster_360
11-10-2006, 06:55 PM
Stock gearing is 16/45. Have seen those mods talked about on one18th.com and those hubs take special brgs - odd size to make it work and they are expensive. Thats the reason I didn't do it - price of a new one almost in all the parts and those brgs.
Sorry, but have neither, so its just the forums for me.
You def have a cool Vendetta.
does anyone have one for sale ????? :confused:
any imput apreseated thx AJ
t9dragon
11-11-2006, 10:23 PM
Thanks for the compliment.
I just sold it for $170.00.
guver
11-13-2006, 04:46 PM
I have a complete one , all stock and like brand new for $129
http://forums.radiocontrolzone.com/showthread.php?p=2124884#post2124884
guver
11-13-2006, 07:53 PM
http://forums.radiocontrolzone.com/showthread.php?p=2124884#post2124884
i gota pass dude sry mom said no damb :( :mad: :huh:
t9dragon
12-11-2006, 03:54 PM
Has anyone seen one of these, yet? It looks very similiar to the Vendetta, there is also an electric version to the nitro one.
LRP SHARK-18 Nitro Race Monster Truck
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k294/t9dragon/obennitrovide_engl.gif
LRP – always one step ahead! Screaming like a big one, the LRP SHARK-18 Nitro Race Monster Truck is the latest addition to the super successful LRP SHARK line! With a top-speed of 50 km/h and a 1.2ccm high performance engine, this little race monster truck is conquering every parking lot or racetrack! The all new LRP SHARK-18 RMT combines the most popular features of the R/C Car world: compact dimensions, great offroad performance and nitro power = perfect 1/18 drive feeling!
Shipping date to international LRP distributors: 22. December 2006! Stay Tuned!
Features:
Scale 1/18
LRP Z.07S (1.2ccm) Pullstart Nitro Engine
Fully equipped with low-friction ball bearings
RTR kit including:
LRP Z.07S (1.2ccm) engine, LRP Phaser Sport receiver 27MHz AM, LRP A2-STX Sport transmitter incl. charge socket, Futaba throttle and steering servo, AAA battery box
4-colour painted bodyshell with metallic effect, cut-out incl. LRP decal sheet
4WD all-wheel drive via an aluminum drive shaft
Extremely robust 2mm aluminum chassis, blue anodized
Sealed gearbox
4-spider differentials front and rear
Maximum ground clearance for any terrain
Monster tires
Fully adjustable pivot ball front suspension
Blue anodized large-size oil filled shock absorbers
Blue anodized aluminum shock towers front and rear
Aluminum upper front chassis struts
Adjustable camber front and rear
Adjustable caster front
Universal joints at front and rear
13-tooth clutch bell, 55-tooth spur gear
Standard hex. wheel mount (12mm)
Double wishbone suspension front and rear
35cc quick lock fuel tank
Adjustable servosaver
Only 780g light!
Ibjamn552
12-13-2006, 10:49 AM
It has very few similarities. That one has much different axle carriers, arms and towers. Looks good though. If the chassis and diffs are the same as the Vendetta's, then I'll be replacing my suspension components with those! ;)
Duster_360
12-13-2006, 07:06 PM
You'll have to be getting parts from Europe - looks like they are not bringing them to the US for sale. Nothing even on Ebay.
Ibjamn552
12-13-2006, 10:32 PM
figures. :mad:
Duster_360
12-14-2006, 12:42 PM
Yeah, me too. I have found them on the internet - but in Germany or Sweden and I don't speak or read either.
But on a happier note - DT is spupposed to be coming out with their own version of a ST in Feb or Mar. Have not seen pics or anything, but maybe it'll be something by the same folks that make the Shark for LRP...???
vaderbxman
12-16-2006, 05:59 PM
Yeah, me too. I have found them on the internet - but in Germany or Sweden and I don't speak or read either.
But on a happier note - DT is spupposed to be coming out with their own version of a ST in Feb or Mar. Have not seen pics or anything, but maybe it'll be something by the same folks that make the Shark for LRP...???
Like the RC18T?? That would rule!! I'm keeping my fingers crossed!!! :D
Duster_360
12-16-2006, 09:26 PM
Speculation is it will be a rebadged LRP Shark Monster 18. DT will call it something with an ST. In Europe, its offered in both rtr and a pro veriosn like the MQ and the MQ SE. I was getting ready to try and buy the pro version, but stopped when I realized how expensive it was going to be. The 150 euros works out to be a loittle over $200 and there would still be s&H on that. I'm going to wait an see what happens with DT and keep my fingers crossed.
aurell
12-17-2006, 10:59 AM
This is from a board in Sweden.
http://rsb.se/enjoy/viewtopic.php?t=10223
It has some threds with the monster shark.
This is when it become a buggy again.
http://rsb.se/enjoy/viewtopic.php?t=10933
I realy like the propotions of the "buggyfied" truggy.
vaderbxman
12-17-2006, 11:59 AM
Wow!!!! :eek:
That truggy looks slick!! I might have to get one if the price is simmilar to that of the vendetta!!! :cool:
Duster_360
12-18-2006, 08:25 PM
That's what I'm hoping - with the dollar vs euro uphill trade, its too expensive to just buy one and have it shipped. I've got my finges crossed it will be reasonable about like the MQ and its pro version, the MQ-SE.
smeghead
01-03-2007, 01:23 PM
I just wonder how it will perform. Say against an RC18T or Losi mini-T
Sure does they call this the FTX BLAZE over here stick some ball diffs in it wid a hop up motor and it leaves the rc18 in its dust
mongoose
01-10-2007, 03:55 AM
I think i gota get me one of these buggys.
Duster_360
01-11-2007, 07:30 PM
Tower has got it listed but no other info yet, does confirm it is in the works though. The rtr version...
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0005p?&I=DTXD14**&P=PU
slotracer
01-12-2007, 10:40 AM
Looks like it will have a different esc than the buggy.
Duster_360
01-12-2007, 12:33 PM
Man, I sure hope so.... stock DTX esc isn't worth much. I pulled mine immed and put something else in....with real brakes!
cooleocool
01-12-2007, 05:01 PM
Well, with the supplied wall charger, it is said to charge it for three hours. So for a back of almost double the capicity, it would take near six hours for a full charge. So 5.5 hours I'd guess...
Duster_360
01-13-2007, 07:03 PM
I just answered that ques, but it was in the MQ thread.....bet you meant to post that over there.
Duster_360
02-10-2007, 07:28 PM
The ST is now on Tower, says late March!!
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXPGV6**&P=ML
t9dragon
02-11-2007, 12:19 AM
Here are a couple of pics of my new Vendetta. It has the hubs so I can run the Mini Inferno wheels................................
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k294/t9dragon/Vendetta/DSC02892.jpg
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k294/t9dragon/Vendetta/DSC02893.jpg
Duster_360
02-11-2007, 09:09 PM
Nice looking ride!
I like the wheels, I have the adapters, just never got around to trying to find the wheels. Even have a set of crime fighters for them.
t9dragon
02-11-2007, 10:31 PM
Thanks.
It hasn't seen the street or dirt, yet. But I definately like the looks of the Mini Inferno wheels on it.
Y2KGTP
02-15-2007, 10:34 PM
These look pretty nice. I was thinking of getting 2-3 of these for a basement track....something to do in winter.
I see the stock ESC can take a 7 cell?
What is a recommended battery to fit ?
And can I drop in a Spektrum Receiver? :D
t9dragon
02-16-2007, 12:09 AM
A 7cell pack would fit with some modification to the battery area. Yes a Sektrum receiver will fit.
Duster_360
02-16-2007, 06:13 AM
......I see the stock ESC can take a 7 cell?
What is a recommended battery to fit ? :D
The stock esc is only rated for 7.2v - same esc as the MQ
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/WTI0001P?&I=LXJAG5&P=V
Good battery - IB1400 - check cheapbatterypacks.com, the Ellites are supposed to be good also.
Y2KGTP
02-16-2007, 08:21 AM
The stock esc is only rated for 7.2v - same esc as the MQ
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/WTI0001P?&I=LXJAG5&P=V
Good battery - IB1400 - check cheapbatterypacks.com, the Ellites are supposed to be good also.
Oh well on the voltage.....so 2/3 cell battery packs then. I don't want to spend a ton of money, but is there a slightly faster motor available, that won't fry the ESC?
And can you build a side by side 6 cell, over a stick pack to fit?
Y2KGTP
02-16-2007, 09:47 AM
Question on ESC.....does it have brakes.....or are you just hitting into full reverse ?
Y2KGTP
02-16-2007, 11:53 AM
another question :D
does the Vendetta have the same ESC as the Vendetta ST? I really don't like the idea you have to reset the ESC every time you change the battery....
http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/886/tttcy3.jpg
Y2KGTP
02-16-2007, 12:21 PM
I noticed the ESC's are different 1260 is Vendetta & 1265 is the ST
what is the difference?
Duster_360
02-16-2007, 05:26 PM
Oh well on the voltage.....so 2/3 cell battery packs then. I don't want to spend a ton of money, but is there a slightly faster motor available, that won't fry the ESC?
And can you build a side by side 6 cell, over a stick pack to fit?
The VR3 has been proven to work with stock esc on 6 cells, plenty being run, its much faster than stock, and it the best value for the money,but it does runs hotter. I'm running VR3 in my RTR MQ - noticeably faster, runs 20-30F hotter than stock motor. Its under 160F and I don't worry about temps unless its a 100F day.
Yeah, 2/3a cells. No, the side-by-side is too big unless you move the rear batt post somehow. SBS pac is 3.65" long and dbl shotgun (no end caps) is 3.40" and already fits snug. Vendetta uses a single batt tray post and the front is a tab that fits into slot. Would need to move rear post. I have sbs pacs for my m18 and wanted to use them and can't - I did better and went lipo and then brushless.
Stock esc is the rfull everse for brakes deal, no real braking. DTX has upgraded the stock outdrive gears - origs were a joke on the MQ (same part), the 'Detta benefited from troubles of the MQ. Now the outdrives seem weak, but boiling stock ones or buying a set of alum ones off ebay fixes that.
The new ST has the ESC (1265) that says it has to be reset every time the batt is changed -
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXRAJ1&P=7
It says it has brakes, but as you can see, there's little real info available, this is apparently a new esc. There is no mention of it on DTX site using either number. If it has real brakes that would be major improvement, but the esc reset at every batt charge is a step backwards.
Frankly, the stock 'Detta esc is a cheapie esc. I replaced mine without ever running it with a XRS that has real brakes. This was based on my MQ experience with what is supposed to be the same esc. The stock esc is a lot better than original in the MQ - some of those smoked as soon as they were hooked up. THe 1260 seems to work fine for a while and then starts glitching, some get weeks, some get months, depending on how much they run it.
The big thing is to immed get some qual batts. The stock batt is a total joke - a 600mah NiCd that acts like its been sitting for about a year. Don't waste your time. GP or IB will show you what it can do and give you decent run times.
Y2KGTP
02-19-2007, 12:19 PM
The VR3 has been proven to work with stock esc on 6 cells, plenty being run, its much faster than stock, and it the best value for the money,but it does runs hotter. I'm running VR3 in my RTR MQ - noticeably faster, runs 20-30F hotter than stock motor. Its under 160F and I don't worry about temps unless its a 100F day.
Yeah, 2/3a cells. No, the side-by-side is too big unless you move the rear batt post somehow. SBS pac is 3.65" long and dbl shotgun (no end caps) is 3.40" and already fits snug. Vendetta uses a single batt tray post and the front is a tab that fits into slot. Would need to move rear post. I have sbs pacs for my m18 and wanted to use them and can't - I did better and went lipo and then brushless.
Stock esc is the rfull everse for brakes deal, no real braking. DTX has upgraded the stock outdrive gears - origs were a joke on the MQ (same part), the 'Detta benefited from troubles of the MQ. Now the outdrives seem weak, but boiling stock ones or buying a set of alum ones off ebay fixes that.
The new ST has the ESC (1265) that says it has to be reset every time the batt is changed -
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXRAJ1&P=7
It says it has brakes, but as you can see, there's little real info available, this is apparently a new esc. There is no mention of it on DTX site using either number. If it has real brakes that would be major improvement, but the esc reset at every batt charge is a step backwards.
Frankly, the stock 'Detta esc is a cheapie esc. I replaced mine without ever running it with a XRS that has real brakes. This was based on my MQ experience with what is supposed to be the same esc. The stock esc is a lot better than original in the MQ - some of those smoked as soon as they were hooked up. THe 1260 seems to work fine for a while and then starts glitching, some get weeks, some get months, depending on how much they run it.
The big thing is to immed get some qual batts. The stock batt is a total joke - a 600mah NiCd that acts like its been sitting for about a year. Don't waste your time. GP or IB will show you what it can do and give you decent run times.
Thanks for the info. I am thinking of some IB1400 cells or so from cheapbatterypacks, or if I can get a really good deal on the duratrax packs when I place an order for 3 vendetta's, I might go that route.
XRS ESC is what comes with the RC18B, correct? I was looking at this as well, and is 1 reason I am debating between the 2 different vehicles.
Duster_360
02-19-2007, 08:17 PM
The DTX pacs seem to be pretty good from the feedback I've read, but are 1200mah. The IB1400s will cost a little more, but they are quality cells. I don't know what cells dtx is using in their 1200 pac.
Another thing to consider is changing batt connector to get away from stock one. It will get hot, and with a hot rod motor can get hot to the point of almost melting. Batts from CBP can be ordered with Deans and a bigger wire size which also helps.
RC18T comes with an AE esc called XPS. Its not the same as the Novak XRS, though its in the same price range.
Y2KGTP
02-19-2007, 09:15 PM
The DTX pacs seem to be pretty good from the feedback I've read, but are 1200mah. The IB1400s will cost a little more, but they are quality cells. I don't know what cells dtx is using in their 1200 pac.
Another thing to consider is changing batt connector to get away from stock one. It will get hot, and with a hot rod motor can get hot to the point of almost melting. Batts from CBP can be ordered with Deans and a bigger wire size which also helps.
RC18T comes with an AE esc called XPS. Its not the same as the Novak XRS, though its in the same price range.
I think I will look for 12 GP or IB packs when I order off the bat. Prob GP cells as I have had good luck with those in the past.
vaderbxman
03-07-2007, 04:30 PM
I had to open my big mouth about my little bro's driveshafts not breaking, and his breaks. :o
No biggie. We've got spares now because of the stresstech thing. Gotta love that warranty!! :D
Y2KGTP
03-08-2007, 07:33 AM
I had to open my big mouth about my little bro's driveshafts not breaking, and his breaks. :o
No biggie. We've got spares now because of the stresstech thing. Gotta love that warranty!! :D
The CVD's? Yeah..I'm going all steel ones as running brushless in 2 of my Vendettas
Could not find GP cells fairly cheap, so ordered 9 packs of Elite 1500's
vaderbxman
03-11-2007, 04:16 PM
Make sure not to get the duratrax cvds, because those are supposed to be worse than the plastic ones. Unless they changed the design, because I could be wrong. Do research and don't waste money on something that might not work. I could be wrong, so double-check first!!!! :D
Y2KGTP
03-11-2007, 04:34 PM
Make sure not to get the duratrax cvds, because those are supposed to be worse than the plastic ones. Unless they changed the design, because I could be wrong. Do research and don't waste money on something that might not work. I could be wrong, so double-check first!!!! :D
Atomic are the ones to get for these, I am told.....
I have a set of the "better" blue aluminum Duratrax ones, just need another set of steel to make the 2nd buggy a bit stronger....
vaderbxman
03-12-2007, 03:20 PM
Cool. I forgot about the atomic ones, so those sound good!!
kylelucas
03-13-2007, 09:05 AM
I have snapped 2 Atomic Steel CVDs with normal running (right next to the pin). Within 2 laps each time. Beware of their product. I am sending all my spares back for a refund. I am going to try Durtarax/Anderson Steel CVDs next.
See picts.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v179/kylelucas/DSC02158_resize.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v179/kylelucas/DSC02159_resize.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v179/kylelucas/DSC02165_resize.jpg
Y2KGTP
03-13-2007, 10:21 AM
I have snapped 2 Atomic Steel CVDs with normal running (right next to the pin). Within 2 laps each time. Beware of their product. I am sending all my spares back for a refund. I am going to try Durtarax/Anderson Steel CVDs next.
See picts.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v179/kylelucas/DSC02158_resize.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v179/kylelucas/DSC02159_resize.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v179/kylelucas/DSC02165_resize.jpg
Thanks for the info....where can I get Durtarax/Anderson Steel CVDs from?
kylelucas
03-13-2007, 01:56 PM
You should be able to find the DURATRAX STEEL CVD on the TowerHobbies site (they are expensive, but I think they willl be the best) and the Anderson version can be found on the RCMART site.
Thanks for the info....where can I get Durtarax/Anderson Steel CVDs from?
Y2KGTP
03-13-2007, 02:01 PM
You should be able to find the DURATRAX STEEL CVD on the TowerHobbies site (they are expensive, but I think they willl be the best) and the Anderson version can be found on the RCMART site.
33.99 for a pair? Ouch, I paid less for a set of 1/8th scale truggy CVD's. :D
vaderbxman
03-13-2007, 07:56 PM
Well my little bro's vendetta had a bad run-in with my dad's new Turmoil. The turmoil came off the winner, with my brother's rear wing and wing mount destroyed. It was both of their faults, but my dad's gonna get him a new set of both. It was funny to see the wing at a stupid angle as he drove away. The really sad part is that we got it on tape. :o
Y2KGTP
03-13-2007, 09:34 PM
Well my little bro's vendetta had a bad run-in with my dad's new Turmoil. The turmoil came off the winner, with my brother's rear wing and wing mount destroyed. It was both of their faults, but my dad's gonna get him a new set of both. It was funny to see the wing at a stupid angle as he drove away. The really sad part is that we got it on tape. :o
Share the video...
Duster_360
03-14-2007, 09:37 PM
Wow, the price on the dtx alum cvds has come down! When I bought a set (early version that sux), a full set was $60. I'm running a 3500kv BL heli motor on lipo and the stock cvds have been amazingly good. Two times I have broken flange the cvd ball pins snap into. Takes about 10min to fix and they seem to last. I've prob got 200 discharges on this bl setup. Not bad for stock plastic cvds. DTX steel onles are even more expensive than those were!!
How did dtx improve the alum ones, anyone have both and can compare? The early ones shafts were real thin and bent easily. The clearance was too tight in the joint too and they would bind if they got just a little dirt.
Y2KGTP - how are the ellites working out??
vaderbxman
03-14-2007, 09:57 PM
Share the video...
I'll try to get my hands on it. It's still on the camera, so I'd have to ask nicely! :D
Y2KGTP
03-14-2007, 10:12 PM
Wow, the price on the dtx alum cvds has come down! When I bought a set (early version that sux), a full set was $60. I'm running a 3500kv BL heli motor on lipo and the stock cvds have been amazingly good. Two times I have broken flange the cvd ball pins snap into. Takes about 10min to fix and they seem to last. I've prob got 200 discharges on this bl setup. Not bad for stock plastic cvds. DTX steel onles are even more expensive than those were!!
How did dtx improve the alum ones, anyone have both and can compare? The early ones shafts were real thin and bent easily. The clearance was too tight in the joint too and they would bind if they got just a little dirt.
Y2KGTP - how are the ellites working out??
I like the Elite batteries. I decided that they realy should be battery bar assembled
(I had them spot welded, as it was 6$ cheaper per battery x9 packs) so I just ordered a bunch of bars.
I also just got in 3 loose Elite cells, as I am going to make some 7 cell packs, just for a bit more fun :D
Currently geared at 16:41, it scoots along pretty nicely with the GH4700 Brushless, with pretty fast acceleration, and runs for about 20+ minutes per battery.
I kinda wish I got some dulsky 1700mah 2 & 3 cell Lipo batteries to play with, but the NiMH Elite's will do the job for now.
I Just got a Blade CX2 Heli, so got distracted from the Vendetta's ordering a few Heli upgrades :D
RC is bad......
Y2KGTP
03-14-2007, 10:15 PM
Make sure not to get the duratrax cvds, because those are supposed to be worse than the plastic ones. Unless they changed the design, because I could be wrong. Do research and don't waste money on something that might not work. I could be wrong, so double-check first!!!! :D
I have 2 sets of aluminum CVD's I got with 1 of my buggies, 1 of each kind of metal. The older ones were bent, so I have them in the rear, and the stock CVDs up front.
will see how it holds up...
Y2KGTP
03-14-2007, 10:24 PM
I actually was thinking of making some 8 cell batteries. 9.6v is better than 7.2, right? :D
vaderbxman
03-15-2007, 10:09 AM
For power, yes. For the stocker ESC, hell no!!!
I bet it'll work on a better ESC, but my brother's esc has about had it. :o
Y2KGTP
03-15-2007, 10:52 AM
For power, yes. For the stocker ESC, hell no!!!
I bet it'll work on a better ESC, but my brother's esc has about had it. :o
Both of my Vendetta's have Mamba 25 ESC's & GH4700 Motors :D
norcalracer_707
03-15-2007, 01:28 PM
I'm thinking about picking up a Vendetta. What are some areas I should look out for? I've searched other fourms and I didn't come up with anything, so I'd thought i'd ask the experts.
Y2KGTP
03-15-2007, 02:05 PM
I'm thinking about picking up a Vendetta. What are some areas I should look out for? I've searched other fourms and I didn't come up with anything, so I'd thought i'd ask the experts.
Most of the questions are answered here:
FAQ thread http://www.one18th.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33325
vaderbxman
03-17-2007, 05:29 PM
One, the front knuckle arms are weak, and will break occasionally. Aluminum arms will help.
Two, The ESC is ok for stock motors, but you will want to get a new one if you plan to use better batteries, which leads me to-
Three, The stock battery is fine for bashing, but you might want to get the upgrade battery from duratrax.
Four, the VR3 motor is awesome. Pick it up as soon as possible. My bro's speed went up at least 40 percent.
NiCad
04-03-2007, 12:15 PM
Just A Big Rip Off Of The Mini Inferno!!!! Plus The Duratax Is Smaller Than The Mini Inferno, So It Will Never Handle As Well, Specialy With The Receiver Uptop And The Speed Control..........looks Nowhere Near Balanced. Plus the Kyosho Mini Inferno is an Original design, created by Kyosho, not out sourced!!
Bet this guy feels stupid for posting that.
Detta turned out to be one of if not the best 18th scale off roader.
Remind me not tot ake advice from this guy. LOL
Just busting your balls man. I got back into racing RC's last year and when people spoke of the Duratrax, I knew the late 80's early 90's DTX and was like are you sure they are not junk. I waited and educated myself and now have Two Detta buggies and the Detta ST. And a BAD ARSE MQ SE 3s lipo and GH4700 = ROCKET SHIP
NiCad
BTW T9Dragon that buggy looks SOOOOO good. ;)
vaderbxman
04-13-2007, 07:23 PM
I just did a tune-up of my little bro's vendetta. HIs spur and pinion were nubs that weren't engaging, so he bought some new ones and I stuck them in there. I als cleaned out the diff cases and re-oiled all his drivetrain bearings and put some white lithium grease on the bating surfaces of his diffs.
The end result? It goes faster than my Evader now. I still can get him in the corners but it's all skill. I'm afraid now........:eek:
juntom10
06-24-2007, 10:15 PM
any pics of vendetta st?? lol
MumblinBerk
06-25-2007, 11:42 AM
Vendetta-ST:
GoldenHorizons 3600 motor, Mamba 25 esc, 2-cell Apogee 1500 LiMg, 3-Cell ThunderPower 910, Stock pinion.
Wanted: Dirt tires, Wide Front Bumper!!
juntom10
06-25-2007, 12:43 PM
Vendetta-ST:
GoldenHorizons 3600 motor, Mamba 25 esc, 2-cell Apogee 1500 LiMg, 3-Cell ThunderPower 910, Stock pinion.
Wanted: Dirt tires, Wide Front Bumper!!
cool!
any options for brushless???
like steel cvd or ball diffs?
MumblinBerk
06-25-2007, 02:17 PM
Not yet. Biggest probelm I have so far is not many after-market parts. I need some wheels and tires, but MOST of all, I need a wide front bumper like RPM makes. The front shocks are VERY exposed. Managed to bend one on my first day out. (ran into a Mini-T buggy).
Had that Vendetta-ST out bashing in the dirt yesterday, and was VERY pleased with the performance. Motor stayed around 160 degrees F despite hard running in tough dirt, some hill climbing and a bunch of jumps.
Need to rig up some sand deflectors though. The tray just FILLS with sand when all 4 wheels get spinning, which was... pretty much all the time! :D
-MB
Duster_360
07-06-2007, 07:55 PM
cool!
any options for brushless???
like steel cvd or ball diffs?
I don't have the ST, just a ordinary 'Detta, with the same 3600kv GH motor, mamba25 running 1700mah 2s DualSky lipo. Mine has been beat pretty hard and its still unsing the stock cvds. One of my only bad experiences has been buying DT alum cvds for it - they are junk - clearances are too tight and as soon as you get dirt on them the bind like crazy in the joint. I went back to stock plastic and have had no further probs. The alum cvd shaft is also too thin and they will bend easily. I would mod a set of stock cvds with alum tbg before I'd buy DT cvds.
After nearly 18months of running, the stock rear diff went out. I'm running teh DT ball diffs now and they've handled the BL even with 3S lipo fine, took a little adjusting, but once set, they've been good.
juntom10
07-06-2007, 08:26 PM
how about GH3600 motor? thinking of getting brushless motor for mini t..but can't decide what to buy except mamba
NiCad
07-06-2007, 09:24 PM
i am thinking the can size of the GH motors are to big for the mini-t. Check into that before making a decision. I would look at B-P-P he has stocks all sorts of BL motors for the mini-t.
A permax 400 4D is BAD ACE! I went 52 mph recently on a off road set up, sans the cut foams.
juntom10
07-06-2007, 09:40 PM
isn't permax motor too big for mini t?
if i can use that motor to mini t....is that good?
(i will use 2 cell lipo.......3cell lipo someday?? lol)
GT Freak
07-09-2007, 04:17 PM
so, are these good for bashing, or should i stay with the MQ i have now??
juntom10
07-09-2007, 05:02 PM
lots of people said vendetta is really good for bashing, also good for racing :D
MumblinBerk
07-10-2007, 07:49 PM
It's good for bashing. Pretty tough, but clearance is low. Would be better with slightly larger tires, geared a little lower, but I've been pleased with it. Much better handling than my Mini-T Buggy. Needs a wide bumper, though. Front shocks are very vulnerable.
-MB
Duster_360
07-10-2007, 08:59 PM
so, are these good for bashing, or should i stay with the MQ i have now??
I don't race and have both MQ and a 'Detta - once you get some better tires/wheels on the 'Detta its a more versatile basher than either MQ or the MQ SE I have. The only downside is ground clearance - even with bigger wheels the 'Detta is lower than MQ so if ground clearance is an issue, an MQ may be better. For me, clearance is not an issue - hard packed dirt, concrete, asphalt and concrete where mine gets run.
GT Freak
07-11-2007, 09:23 AM
Wish RPM would come out with a front bumper for these :(
MumblinBerk
07-11-2007, 10:27 AM
Wish RPM would come out with a front bumper for these :(
I contacted T-boneRacing.com about that, and they said they have it on their list of upcoming products.
Check them out HERE. (http://www.t-bone-racing.com)
-MB