View Full Version : What is the best Monster truck?
Out Of Control
09-23-2005, 09:48 PM
im buying another monster truck, i already have a maxx, i want it to be fast, very strong, powerful, and reliable.
i was leaning twords the Savage .25
please correct me of im wrong
i want it mostly for bashing, but just alittle on the track.
Thanks Alot
Issus
09-23-2005, 10:04 PM
I'm leaning towards the Savage SS 4.6 for my first truck, it seems to be all of the above and more ;)
The .28 engine in it is pretty darn nice, and the magazine reviews that ive read make it sound as if the editor needs a new set of jocks after reviewing it...
skidmark316
09-23-2005, 10:12 PM
Wait a little bit until the reviews start showing up for the new MGT 4.6. Savage,
great basher, but they get in my way on the track, and then get in my way again after I lap 'em. :D
MikeWz
09-23-2005, 10:24 PM
Yeah, wait for the MGT 4.6
Issus
09-24-2005, 06:31 AM
Bleh, MT for running on tracks! Blasphemy!
LHS says that savage will take all the abuse you cna give it, even if you dont clean it/look after it very well - i look after my stuff very well ;) They said that the revo is a nice truck, very good - fast - strong but you do need to care for it after you get home or you will run into troubles for it. They said the LST is very nice, but is a tad flimsy, MGT they didn't know as they had not ever run them. Mad Force is pretty cool but has problems with screws coming free/loosening fast and messing up all the plastic around it (same thing i have with my Inferno, just gotta re-tighten your screws after each tank). They thought the T-Maxx was a bit wussy :)
I also asked the guys with MT's who were there getting new parts, there was one guy with a savage who had run 7.5L of fuel through, that was his first new part. There were 4 guys with Mad Forces, they like em alot but most had gone though quite a few parts. One guy with a revo, same deal as the savage pretty much. I don't know these guys, or where they race but most were saying "where ever i see jumps and sand" and a few were into the BMX tracks around here. Top bunch of guys, but i have no idea how they treat their cars.
Seems revo and savage are prefered, but that may just be local as we dont get many MGT/LST's around here.
Bleh, MT for running on tracks! Blasphemy!
LHS says that savage will take all the abuse you cna give it, even if you dont clean it/look after it very well - i look after my stuff very well ;) They said that the revo is a nice truck, very good - fast - strong but you do need to care for it after you get home or you will run into troubles for it. They said the LST is very nice, but is a tad flimsy, MGT they didn't know as they had not ever run them. Mad Force is pretty cool but has problems with screws coming free/loosening fast and messing up all the plastic around it (same thing i have with my Inferno, just gotta re-tighten your screws after each tank). They thought the T-Maxx was a bit wussy :)
I also asked the guys with MT's who were there getting new parts, there was one guy with a savage who had run 7.5L of fuel through, that was his first new part. There were 4 guys with Mad Forces, they like em alot but most had gone though quite a few parts. One guy with a revo, same deal as the savage pretty much. I don't know these guys, or where they race but most were saying "where ever i see jumps and sand" and a few were into the BMX tracks around here. Top bunch of guys, but i have no idea how they treat their cars.
Seems revo and savage are prefered, but that may just be local as we dont get many MGT/LST's around here.
Get the truck that has a lot of parts available in your LHS. Normally, Revo or Savage are top of the list. If you don't mind ordering parts at Towerhobbies, get the TNX pro (if your racing) or the regular version (cheaper) for bashing. You will be happy with it. MGT 28 looks good as well.
supernitro_guy1
09-25-2005, 12:37 AM
T-Maxx always!!, at least a well- modified one
traxxas_fan101
09-25-2005, 12:51 AM
get the mgt-its just as tough as a savage and can run with the best of them on the track
metalry101
09-25-2005, 01:27 PM
I'd go for the MGT or the LST. The LST is the faster of the two, but the MGT is tougher in stock form. However, with some RPM a-arms and aluminum diff cases the LST is as strong as anything IMO.
The Savage is a goood basher...but everyone and their dog has one, it doesn't handle particularly well (not bad, but it's not an LST, or Revo, or even an MGT), and it can be a pain to work on sometimes. It's a great truck, but I prefer others.
The Revo is fast and durable, but the engine is super picky about needle settings, and it doesn't make anywhere near enough torque for true monster trucking. It's awesome on the top end, but with only .15 cubic inches, it just doesn't have the grunt that other monster trucks do. The tranny is another weak link of the Revo. I've sold more tranny parts to Revo owners than I have diff parts and driveshafts combined. I think it's also very overpriced. It's not a bad truck, but why should I pay more for a truck when I'm getting less? It's literally less truck. It's smaller than every other nitro monster on the market, it has the smallest engine of any nitro monster, and the smallest tires. I don't see how it adds up. The chassis engineering is impressive, but in the end, it's just another monster truck, and one that's more expensive than everything save the LST. With $260 of radio gear on board out of the box, I can justify the $600 pricetag of the LST, but I can't see what you're getting extra in a Revo when you pay $460 for it. The MGT and Savage are both cheaper, and both larger, and both better IMO. If I want a lightweight truck with a small block, the TNX is what I'd buy. It's a little over $300. It's just as light as the Revo, but it has a little bit bigger engine that's miles better in the tuning department, and the whole truck is much, much larger. It's the same size as an MGT, except that the tires aren't as huge (and as a result, as heavy).
Personally, I own an LST, an MGT, a Mad Force, an E-Maxx, and an E-Zilla. I plan on picking up a TNX Pro in the next month or so, and then another Twin Force (traded my last one away). After that I'll probably be done by monsters for a while...maybe...
Skribble
09-25-2005, 04:14 PM
Personally, I own an LST, an MGT, a Mad Force, an E-Maxx, and an E-Zilla. I plan on picking up a TNX Pro in the next month or so, and then another Twin Force (traded my last one away). After that I'll probably be done by monsters for a while...maybe...No truggies to add to your line up? :p
And what other starting options are there for the LST other than Rotostart and Pullstart?
FreeRideJunkie
09-25-2005, 04:40 PM
Take the money you would buy a new MT with and modify the maxx. Make it a LRM and you'll be set.
metalry101
09-25-2005, 05:50 PM
No truggies to add to your line up? :p
And what other starting options are there for the LST other than Rotostart and Pullstart?
Probably not, but the Hellfire and the new Kyosho truggy (Inferno ST maybe?) would probably be the two I'd be choosing between. I don't need or want a race truck. I like racy handling and such, but I bash.
As for the starting sytems, that's it. That's all most monsters have. If you want to spend 150 or 200 bux you can buy a custom starter box for a Revo, but other than that, the only monsters that can be bump started are truggies, which I don't consider to be monsters.
jay29
09-25-2005, 05:52 PM
I agree with free ride junkie. For what a new MT or savage cost you can make your MAXX as good as any of the trucks mentioned if not better.
dhoward
09-25-2005, 07:00 PM
i have a revo and a lst both are great trucks the lst is great for bashing and ok on the track, but my revo in full race trim easily walks all over anything but the best truggies,
either truck woul be a good choice, (please dont get a savage)
Out Of Control
09-25-2005, 08:10 PM
my max has acncm bulks, the stock 2.5, rpm a-arms, and much more, its strong and durible, but i wont anotherone with a differnt setup, and heay we all know 2 is better thank 1
savagepicco26
09-25-2005, 10:52 PM
If you want to spend 150 or 200 bux you can buy a custom starter box for a Revo, but other than that, the only monsters that can be bump started are truggies, which I don't consider to be monsters.
i got an associated box off ebay for $25 with batteries, and the Native racing conversion for $35. $60 for a revo starter box isn't too shaby IMO.
i'll definitely agree with you on your last statement about truggies. :rolleyes:
Skribble
09-25-2005, 11:13 PM
As for the starting sytems, that's it. That's all most monsters have. If you want to spend 150 or 200 bux you can buy a custom starter box for a Revo, but other than that, the only monsters that can be bump started are truggies, which I don't consider to be monsters.Bah. That sucks for the LST -- I use a handheld bumpstart for my Revo, and thought it might work for the LST. I guess there just isn't enough space?
I also agree that Truggies aren't monster trucks -- More like 1/8 stadium trucks.
I'm also waiting for the Hellfire, but I might go with a MSR-X5T instead. Just sick of my Revo right now -- And all the drama that seems to follow Traxxas products.
jimcrawler
09-26-2005, 12:14 AM
I agree with free ride junkie. For what a new MT or savage cost you can make your MAXX as good as any of the trucks mentioned if not better.but in the end you still have a t maxx
metalry101
09-26-2005, 12:20 AM
Damn...you scored a sweet deal on that starter box. To buy one setup and ready for the Revo, new, you'd be looking well over 100 dollars...at least for all the ones I've seen. Of course you could buy the hand held airplane ones, but personally, I'd rather have a pull start.
I don't think you could use a bump start on an LST. It might be possible, with a bit of enginuity, but I've never really looked. My Picco .27 has a pull start, and I'm happy with it.
As for the truggies, that Hellfire does look really, really well thought out. I'm a diehard fan of HPI's 1/10 4WD stadium trucks, so I think I just might have to try their new 1/8 version out. The Kyosho looks pretty cool too, if a bit more basic. I think it will be a lot cheaper than the HPI though. I'll probably end up with both...but we'll see. I really want an MT2 .18 SS, and that 1/10 Inferno ST RTR. The HPI isn't cheap...but it's a nice truck, and it's a kit, which is a huge bonus, and the Kyosho is just too dirt cheap to pass up, so I'm thinking about getting one in the next couple of months. I've gotta start making some more money...all of these new monsters are gonna drain my wallet.
FreeRideJunkie
09-26-2005, 12:48 AM
but in the end you still have a t maxx
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y184/gsc1971/T-Maxx/000_0859.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y184/gsc1971/T-Maxx/000_0860.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y184/gsc1971/T-Maxx/000_0861.jpg
Yeah... You're absolutely right. Who in their right mind would want something that looked like this... :eek:
MikeWz
09-26-2005, 01:31 AM
I agree with free ride junkie. For what a new MT or savage cost you can make your MAXX as good as any of the trucks mentioned if not better.
Not really, no. First of all, if you want a more powerful engine, most of the driveline needs to be replaced, or somehow reinforced. The Bone joints are very weak on the T-maxx, and will more than likely need to be replaced by CVDs (if upgrading the engine). The tranny is pretty bad. The shift point moves and the tranny gets notchy pretty quick. I don't want to hear the "mine hasn't" because chances are either you just haven't noticed it, or your T-maxx is too new, or you don't really do a whole lot with it. Then there's the plastic bulkheads and bumpers. The bulkheads break really easy, and the bumpers (being plastic) hold the bulkheads in place. If you break a bumper (not that hard to do) your bulkhead can move. If it can move, you can easily strip out that diff. It's happend to mine, and MANY other maxx owners. The stock shocks on the Maxx aren't very good either. So now you're talking you need AT LEAST aluminum bulks, aluminum bumpers and some kind of tranny parts (eg from Robinson Racing). That's at least $100. For that extra $100, you've already bought the Savage 4.6SS and an SRX radio....or an MGT 4.6 RTR and both of those will hold up better than, and be at least as fast as the Maxx
/end rant
metalry101
09-26-2005, 01:32 AM
Yeah... You're absolutely right. Who in their right mind would want something that looked like this... :eek:
That's like showing someone shopping for a Civic a picture of a 3 Series and asking them why they don't buy the BMW instead. If they had the money, they probably would, but since they're on a budget, they're looking for the best car for the money. A UE SuperMaxx is cool, but at $3000, it's out of most people's price ranges. Most people who could afford it would probably rather spend the three large on a different vehicle, or multiple different vehicles. I know I would. That's a really, really nice truck, but I'd rather have a built MGT, built LST, and built Mad Force than one really built T-Maxx.
attomixt
09-26-2005, 01:54 AM
Get the savage 4.6, I love my savages sometheing aweful parts are easy to get and rarely break, I save my B4 for the track and leave the Monster trucks at home for bashing. It really doesn't even need many hopups to make it an even more aweome truck.
http://users.zoominternet.net/~smtp/4-6-3.jpg
Skribble
09-26-2005, 02:08 AM
Damn...you scored a sweet deal on that starter box. To buy one setup and ready for the Revo, new, you'd be looking well over 100 dollars...at least for all the ones I've seen. Of course you could buy the hand held airplane ones, but personally, I'd rather have a pull start.That's the one I use -- The ones made for airplanes. The first time I used it, I was like #$#@%$#^#@@#!. I couldn't get the thing to start my Revo, but after I bought a the 40MM flywheel, it starts on one tap if their's still fuel in the lines.
I also wanted the HPI MT Racer a while back, but my shop didn't have a class for 'em, and I didn't want to race with the 2WD stadium trucks. Not to mention they were using the .15FEs [Friendly Engine. :)], LOL.
The InfernoST looks nice, but the thing about the MSR, InfernoST, etc. is they're pretty much converted 1/8 buggies -- Not that it's a bad thing, as the MSR is winning races. That's what I truely like about the Hellfire. It's built from the ground up. Can't wait for the kit version to come out, and see what kind of goodies HPI has for it.
metalry101
09-26-2005, 02:16 AM
The big Inferno ST looks pretty cool (if a bit basic), but the 1/10 version looks pretty sweet for the price. It's the same size as an MT2, but it should only cost about $250 for the RTR if I remember right. Of course it's not perfect...but at that price, I think it's worth buying to find out what it's like.
RespirologyRC
09-26-2005, 02:34 AM
Maxx All The Way!!!!!!!!! You can definetly do many things to a maxx. You can turn it into a light race maxx (LRM), like the one above or into a HULK of a MT like mine with all the bells and whistles. Trust me this Maxx never gets old!!!!!! And for the price--well it's a tiny bit exspensive but I never ever have to worry about parts. When i go to the track the only things I bring with me is Fuel and a spare receiver battery!
I ROLL over the competition, and if I can't roll over them i just push them out of my way. Not only is it great at the track but for bashing I never have to worry about any ramp being too high or any tree un-movable.
RespirologyRC
09-26-2005, 02:36 AM
All the guys at my track race savages. I don't know why but they told me that they sold their LSTs' and bought the savages because they were tougher
RespirologyRC
09-26-2005, 02:39 AM
Yup Full blown Ue Maxx with OTB gears and ............
Can you say VBS? Can you say "indestructable 8 gear diff"?
See these are the things that you can do with a T-Maxx. But if you hold on a little bit longer a better truck is coming out soon. It's called the Razor.
metalry101
09-26-2005, 02:53 AM
That's a helluva mean truck you've got there. A bit out of most people's price range...but hella mean and a half none-the-less.
RespirologyRC
09-26-2005, 03:00 AM
Thanks man---I'll be honest: I love MT's but was surely disappointed by everyone bashing the T-maxx. When I got my first maxx I knew that many people didn't like it and I also knew the reasons. None of this stuff became apparent until I started racing. I had owned my stock maxx for Nearly 3 years and had not broken a single part. I was thinking to myself, boy those critics out there are nuts. There is nothing wrong with this truck... Until I went racing. Everything broke on that thing. I'm not talking about an arm or a cv joint; I mean everytime I would touch a bump or jump the darn thing would just fall apart on me. I didn't get it? For 3 years not a hickup but the moment it touches the track the darn thing just went to crap.
I love the way the Maxx looks, and I am not ready to give it up. I do have a Truggy and leave it at home when I go racing. reason is, why pay soo much for a truck that you built to go racing, and then not take it with you when you go? SO I use my truggy for bashing and my maxx for racing. it really is sweet!!!!!!!!!!!!
savagepicco26
09-26-2005, 08:33 AM
Damn...you scored a sweet deal on that starter box. To buy one setup and ready for the Revo, new, you'd be looking well over 100 dollars...at least for all the ones I've seen. Of course you could buy the hand held airplane ones, but personally, I'd rather have a pull start.
yeah, i know. i looked into the other options. i actually got the box so cheap because the guy mispelled the auction. instead of "starter" he put "stater", so if anyone searched "starter box" then they wouldn't find his auction. i found a similar deal a year ago on my Mugen BII starter box for my 8th scale. got the box with 2-GP3300 packs for $40! okay, i'm done highjacking now! :D
savagepicco26
09-26-2005, 08:34 AM
That's what I truely like about the Hellfire. It's built from the ground up.
pretty much like the LSP
Skribble
09-26-2005, 04:48 PM
But similiar to 1/8 buggies -- HPI went with a upperdeck and multiple braces, which seems to be needed as a lot of truggies have flexing problems.
Hmmm: http://hotbodiesonline.net/stadium10.html
http://hotbodiesonline.net/stadium10/comp.jpg
SKEEZE
09-26-2005, 05:04 PM
You have to put a lot of money into a maxx to have it anywhere near the savages bashability... but I say that cuz I love my savage and have seen how easy the maxx breaks... just my oppinion...
jay29
09-26-2005, 08:53 PM
well, I love my maxx, wouldn't trade it for anything.My mods consist of aluminum bulkheads,bumpers and under braces,RPM blue upper and lower a-arms front and back,integey msr4 shocks,airtronics high torque steering servo,jr 590z throttle servo, forward only conversion and RPM stable maxx clawzs with wraped in bow ties.As for a bigger engine I don't see the need.My 2.5R will run with most all .18s and .21s on a track,with a hard blip of the throttle I can put it on its roof,although i did get rid of the easy start for a pull start.As for a notchy trans I have'nt notice anything like that its pretty smooth,maybe its because of the forward onlyconv, I do have to adjust my shift point every now and then.As far as breakage I'm starting on my third gallon of fuel since I changed my 2.5 for 2.5R and have only broke 2 rear skid plates jumping a 3 1/2 ft skate board ramp over my full size blazer front to back landing on asphalt, and both left side rear a arms on a bad landing.Oh and i make that jump alot.As for the savage I can't say I hate it cause I never owned one it doesn't appeal to me cause the chassie design looks like it would be a pain to work on and the ones at my local track don't seem to handle very well compared to the maxxes and revos.I'm not say the maxx is the best truck ever for everyone but for me it is.......
ron1431
09-26-2005, 10:02 PM
wow that 1/10 Lightning Stadium10 looks nice but i would much rather have an mt2 18ss. is hot bodies trying to start a new racing class this looks alot more raceable then the mt2. send the link to the mods so they can post it on the new products.
TrU InTeGrA
09-28-2005, 03:23 PM
when i s the hellfire comming out... :confused: ?
InTeGrA
Skribble
09-28-2005, 10:48 PM
Only information released is sometime before the Holidays. So right before Christmas or after Christmas.
thedarkness
09-29-2005, 12:07 AM
Whats this thread about who has the blingenist maxx?I perfer trucks that dont need $1100 in supermaxx gear to hold up in a race.the maxx is one hell of a platform, but it should take as much as it does to make it reliable.Add to the fact that a box stock revo will be just as quick around a track.I kinda seem all over the place here what Im trying to say is a box stock maxx is hardly a good truck but a supermaxx or dace predator is just as good as any truck out there.The way it goes now it would be better to just build it up out of parts because pretty much the only stock piece youll have left would be a tranny case if that.
RespirologyRC
09-29-2005, 01:56 AM
Where the supermaxx shines is in 45 minute mains. While all the other trucks must worry about staying together I can just keep on trucking. Sure Truggies can blow my doors off but only if I let them around me!
Le2005
11-28-2005, 11:30 PM
Lucky I only had mine for about 2 weeks let my cousin drive it and had to buy new bulk heads and a new engine mount .
irleet
11-28-2005, 11:38 PM
WOw y dont u look into the LST2 lol