Team Losi LST 2

[PeterV]

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LST2 - Next Generation of “Super Truck”

Team Losi’s LST “Super Truck” made a big impact on the monster truck market ultimately being recognized as the “Truck of the Year”. Being a racing/engineering company where development never stops, Team Losi has taken what has been learned from hundreds of hours at the track as well as a lot of input from serious bashers to development the new LST2. This new “Super Truck” is a logical evolution of the LST and features a number of new, revised, and what were previously option parts. You get all the great features and attributes of the LST like the modular multi-deck chassis, two speed auto-shift transmission, dual range Hi/Low gear box, huge oil filled monster shocks on all four corners, the most powerful engine in it’s class, all metal transmission gears, JR’s XS3 premium synthesized radio system with dual metal geared steering servos as well as these new and revised parts:

• Extra Heavy-Duty Oversized CV Driveshafts and Axles
• Aluminum Front and Rear Differential Cases
• 20mm Aluminum Wheel Drive Hexes
• 420 Series Dish Wheels with Low Profile Tires
• High Capacity Fuel Tank
• Racing Type Threaded Shock Bodies
• Mach 427 Big Block 7 Port Engine
• Hi-Performance Tuned Exhaust System
• Extra Strong Front and Rear Suspension Arms
• Revised Front Spindles and Carriers
• New Rear Wheel Hub Carriers
• Oversized front and Rear Axle Bearings
• Composite Dual Disk Brakes
• Revised Chassis Side Rails
• New Inner Gear Cover
• 1100ma Rechargeable Receiver Battery Pack and Charger
• Glow Igniter and 4-Way wheel/Glow Plug Wrench
• Sleek New Body Available in 2 Colors with Flame Paint Scheme

The combination of the proven LST platform and these new and revised parts make the LST2 the complete, high-performance, ready-to-run package that monster truck enthusiasts been looking for. Look for the new LST2 and all of the new parts to be in Hobby shops and at racetracks in plenty of time for Christmas.

LOSB0015 LST2 RTR Monster Truck w/XS3 Radio Suggest sell price 649.99

[rckid11]

Love the upgrades but the body is not my favorite.

[Monsterbrad]

Losi just keeps making things better
Gotta love it
Should this be my next MAJOR purchase in the hobby
hmmmmmmmmm ????????? :D

[MrCrash]

AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

I just bought my LST! DANGIT!

[Colt M4]

Yeah I am mad too. But this is super awesome. It is really heavy duty now. If you go to teamlosi.com you can look at the pictures.

[Legend_Car]

i still think it would look better with clear windows

[MrCrash]

I'll probably just end up doing an LST2 conversion on my truck. Everything looks like it'll mount up just fine.

The only things that I don't like are the plastic adjuster rings and caps on the shocks, and the 20mm hex hubs. It'll kinda limit the rims you can run.

[CRSMP5]

they are threaded shocks.. too bad it comes with a radio and all that..

[MrCrash]

I know they are threaded. The adjuster ring is plastic....

[abels621]

I was going to buy the lst but now i guess i should just wait for this!! :D :) :D

[rhcsavage21]

I'll probably just end up doing an LST2 conversion on my truck. Everything looks like it'll mount up just fine.

The only things that I don't like are the plastic adjuster rings and caps on the shocks, and the 20mm hex hubs. It'll kinda limit the rims you can run.
u will still use my alluminum a-arms wont ya :D
but ya its nice that losi takes the time and fixes all the problems they found as well as the ones that the buyers found.

[abels621]

ok guys i just lookes at the pictures on the tl web site and im stoked!!! :D :D This thing looks just too sick!!
Anyway sry for me ramblin on about this thing but im really stoked! i have a couple of questions for you guys:

Does anybody know if the new tires are the same diameter of the old lst tires? i think the new tires look smaller.

Does anyone know if the dimensions are the same on this as the old lst? I think they would be but im not positive.

Anyway this truck looks sick and will definitely be my next purchase!! This thing is loaded! it even comes with a nimh reciever pack!

sorry for the long post of just me ramblin on guys. thanx a lot :p

[MrCrash]

u will still use my alluminum a-arms wont ya :D
but ya its nice that losi takes the time and fixes all the problems they found as well as the ones that the buyers found.
Of course ;)

[VWVR6]

i still think it would look better with clear windows
RTR will never have clear windows. Most RTR bodies are silkscreened.

[MrCrash]

The original had clear windows.....

[rhcsavage21]

its not whats on the outside its whats in the inside that counts :D

[abels621]

hey guys one more question. i just looked at the new lst and on the last picture (i think) where the truck is turned sideways, doesn't it look short? i compared it with a picture of the old lst and the old one looked longer. Just asking for you to clarify. Could be wrong thanx.

[MrCrash]

It's the same length.

[abels621]

alright cool, i guess it was just the picture. thanx

[bullett1818]

So.... Do you think the price of the first will go down at all? I want one but cant afford it. lol..

-Bob-

[MrCrash]

It should. Right around the end of november/early december would be a good time to buy an original, becaus hoby shops will probably be trying to clear out the older model.

Besides, with the original, you can still run any standard MT rim, as well as have the option for rear wheel steering(it was eliminated from the LST2).

[lazydel]

Oh well there goes another 700$ from my account!!!

[DanteXIII]

Grrr, I just got my LST running well. I'll just upgrade... It'll probably cost alot more than the $50 extra bucks it would have cost me though. Anybody know anything about the engine? I'm guessing it's bigger, perhaps by a fair margin. I hate the orange head though, the blue looked good I thought.

[madsavage]

I like the look of this truck, seems to have gone a bit truggy with the low profile tires. I was hanging out for a hilfire but now I might go with LST 2
Ill have to see how the pricing works out in Australia.

[astainback]

Wow, I have one question though.. is the xs3 that comes with the LST 27 or 75 mhz??

I have the xs3 pro, and it is 75 mhz.. i would hate to get this thing (or the old one..) and it be 27 mhz. I am not sure... anyone??

thanks,
adrian

[losimike]

The xs3 and the pro are basically the same, with the exception of the pro having a few more model memories and the silver color...Oh, and the red wheel. It will be 75 Mhz, and likely have the synth rx. What they should have done, is put the DS3 Spectrum radio in it...Now, that would have made it a definete "Need to buy"...

[XxBL18txX]

Man that thing looks great

[metalry101]

Wow, I have one question though.. is the xs3 that comes with the LST 27 or 75 mhz??

I have the xs3 pro, and it is 75 mhz.. i would hate to get this thing (or the old one..) and it be 27 mhz. I am not sure... anyone??

thanks,
adrian
It's offered with both.

As for the truck...I hope that the original LST is offered with the durability upgrades but without the body, wheels, tires, and the 20mm hex non-sense. This is now a race truck instead of a basher, which is good for the racers...but they could put the new arms, hubs, diff cases, gear cover, engine, etc, on the old truck and sell it with the old tires and body as a basher and sell the new one alongside it as a racer. Kinda like the T-Maxx and the Stadium Maxx. It's cheaper to buy 4WD for a Stadium Maxx than it is to buy tires and an FOC for the T-Maxx...same situation here. I wouldn't even mind seeing the LST shipped with the FOC and a pull-start installed. Whatever though, my LST is better than this one...so I won't be buying this, but it's an impressive effort from Losi. :)

[Rain Man]

This is going to make my night a little better!! :eek: I thought it would take forever for it to come out. I dont like the shape of the body but thats what Pro-Line is for. :D

[abels621]

this truck looks like it sits lower, is that true?

[MrCrash]

Nope. All they did was fix the weak points of the original. No major changes occurred.

[abels621]

thanx again

[2fast2slow]

It looks good but for the price, i might guess get the Inferno ST

[vzla]

Great,

Now I have to get rid of my Mad Force, Serpent 710 to make room for my future LST2, since my LST is now my 5yr old.

[critterracing]

looks like they fixed the crappy throttle servo linkage.

[Mo-Bo0st]

looks like a race truck not a basher anymore. Looks like HPI hellfire and the LST2 are going the way of the Traxxas Revo.

Any word on a release date yet? I was just about to buy an LST now I need to know if this is what I should be considering instead.

[abels621]

Losi says "In plenty of time for Christmas."

[losifreak2004]

It's still an LST. It's big, fast, with plenty of ground clearance, tons of suspension, and now it's even tougher. This truck should be even better than the original when it comes to bashing around in the backyard, the new suspension pieces are very strong. Nothing on the new truck should hinder the truck's just-for-fun performance...no worries!

Although its on-track prowess is indeed something to brag about..Travis Amezcua's qualifying efforts at the 2005 Sidewinder Nitro Explosion would have placed him well inside the Unlimited Truggy main!

[winning edge designs]

Rainman, that's what J concepts is for, hahaha...........Jim, jconcepts dot net

[Monsterbrad]

they should just have a lst 2 kit for the guys that don't want to buy another truck.
That would help out

[Ball Racing]

Wouldn't that kit consist of all the stuff people are buying now?

[Monsterbrad]

I was thinking
Everybody wants the RPM arms or something tougher!
I would rather have an arm break then break other things in the case of the crash that me and my buddy had.
The arms broke and kept the rest of the truck ok bulk heads and other things.
How are the new RPM arms ????
they have been making stuff since forever and they are a pretty well known company for there a-arms

[abels621]

Since this thread has been dead for days, i thought i would try to revive it with a question i have been wanting to know. What kind of 5-cell reciever pack will fit in the the stock location of the batteries? A straight or hump? I know it comes with one but i would like to have a backup. thanx

[abels621]

Ok guys, i was just at killer hobbies web site and they have the new lst for 600.00 and ETA december 18 2005. this is cutting it a bit close! i want one for christmas but do you know how hard it is going to be to get one of these suckers!? crazy!

[madsavage]

I cant seem to find out anyting about the mack 427 engine. the Dynamite web site shows some m427 parts, but no complete motor.

If 427 means 4.27 cc that would be about .26 ci. is this a Mack .26 with hot up parts? or is it just the standard Mach.26 with Gold colored parts?

Does anyone know anything about it?

Cheers

Pete

[MrCrash]

I'm thinking it is a tweaked and pimped-out mach .26.

[Cain]

Maybe a Mach 26 without the problems. That alone is an upgrade for anyone who had issues with there's. So far I have lucked out with mine.

[rhcsavage21]

mabey they moved the one-way bearing to the out side of the crank case so it dosent slip, so easy, along with that washer i herd of that made problems.

i just did a close up look at that pic of the engine and it dose not say 26 it says 28!!! now i want this engine for my project truck!

[abels621]

not from this picture go to

http://www.******.net/view_single.php?medid=67009

keyword r c p i c s
sorry if it doesnt work. thats the best i can do. i dont know how to upload pictures.
the key

[MrCrash]

That one says 427, and does nothing to clear up the mystery...

[abels621]

i just meant that 4.27 cc is equal to .256 ci or about .26, so its not a .28 then right?

[MrCrash]

that is true. My picco .26 was marketed as a 4.27 engine. It's easy to drop a dot.

[metalry101]

My money says that the "427" is actually just a .247 with a new head. The XTM .247, Mach .26 an .28, and LRP .28 (and maybe some others) are all made by the same company, in the same sweat shop in China or wherever. I might be wrong, but my guess is that it's a relabeled XTM .247.

[fezzy]

It sounds more likely to me that they've just renamed the Mach26.

[madsavage]

This page shows the parts for the M427 but no complete motor. That is why I am thinking that they are hot up parts for the mach .26. But dynamite do not really say what they are for.

Any ideas?

I hope the link works

http://www.dynamiterc.com/Search/Default.aspx?SearchTerm=&CatID=EC

[rhcsavage21]

well from that it looks like they changed everything but the carb.

[winning edge designs]

From what i've been told the 427 is a more aggressively tuned version of the engine in the previous truck........Since the earlier version made LOTS of power, it should be good!?....Jim

[MrCrash]

OK. I talked to my LHS, and according to them, it is just a slightly tweaked Dynamite .28.

[rhcsavage21]

i win :D

[madsavage]

1 ci = 16.387 cc so .26 ci x 16.387 cc = 4.26 cc say 427 to cash in on the muscle car thing.

If this engine is .28 ci that would = 4.588 cc, wouldn't you marketing department want to call it a 454.

[winning edge designs]

Or a 460, but that was a good truck motor, no muscle car engine(even though they tried).

....Jim, jconcepts dot net

[madsavage]

A ford F100 body with a 460 Engine, TOO COOL

[abels621]

Any more news on this truck? I hope the release date is moved up because i have a feeling it will be impossible to get one by Christmas if it is released the 18th of Dec. Losi says in plenty of time for Christmas but the 18th is close.

[Monsterbrad]

Well its very cool to see that Losi is offering a up grade kit.
cause i really did not want to buy another truck
as much fun as that would have been it's getting hard on the bank account

[abels621]

Anybody pre order one yet? Im probaly going to this week at my lhs. They said around December 15, so hopefully ill have one before christmas.

[Scooby_WRX]

Yup, im first in line at my LHS. Put a fat deposit on one weeks ago.

[metalry101]

Not a chance, my LST has been modded to be far better than this one, at least IMO, but those tires do look pretty sweet. I might pick some of those up to see how well they work on the hardpack and in the loose dirt where I drive. That'll probably be hard to come by in December here...so they'll get tested in the snow and mud as well. Maybe I'll order that new engine...see what it's all about, depending on the price.

[Monsterbrad]

I have bad news for this new truck
My stock Mach 26 runs just as good as the 28
the only difference is the 28 is smoother under your throttle finger then the 26 is.
Other then that they are dead even in a drag race! :D

[metalry101]

I have bad news for this new truck
My stock Mach 26 runs just as good as the 28
the only difference is the 28 is smoother under your throttle finger then the 26 is.
Other then that they are dead even in a drag race! :D
But 427 isn't either of those, right?

[winning edge designs]

I thought we figured out that 4.27 was .26?

hmmmmm, Jim

[metalry101]

I thought we figured out that 4.27 was .26?

hmmmmm, Jim
But not the same as the Mach .26. The Picco .26, Force .26, and Mach .26 are all the same size...but they're all different motors. Obviously since the 427 is made by the same company as the Mach, it's going to have more similarities than the other .26's I listed...but that doesn't mean it's the same.

[abels621]

Alright guys, im probaly going to preorder one of these pretty soon. ive talked to the people at my lhs but they think its going to get pushed back till after Christmas. What do you guys think? Here are some release dates ive found.

Killer Hobbies- December 18
Stormer Hobbies- i called them and they said probaly pushed back
Losi- "plenty of time for Christmas"
Horizon- Late december

What do you think?

[Colt M4]

Most likely if they want to sell alot of them they will try to get them out before christmas

[mdewitt71]

now I just gotta try to talk the wife into letting me get the Mini LST and this.......................................

[Racing t]

I hope it get out before chrismas because I want one but I´ll be in the states just from december 1 to 12.

[abels621]

I just called losi and asked them when these trucks are going to become available. They claim that these will be shipped out before the beginning of december. This is good and im going to preorder one it just seems early to me because there isnt really any info on the new engine. I mean we dont officially know the size yet.

[Freedom]

How much is the LST2 going to be, did you ask them that?
What's their phone number?

[SUNA]

$649 at Horizon.

I just pre-ordered one through my LHS.

[abels621]

for product info, their number is 1-909-390-9595.

[Freedom]

$649 at Horizon.

I just pre-ordered one through my LHS.

Wow that's way out of my price range, thanks.

[SUNA]

I think it's fairly priced to be honest with you. Take the LST and do the add ons and you're damn close...but you're also getting a new and improved engine!

[SUNA]

$599 at KillerHobbies.

[abels621]

Just preordered from my lhs! Im first in line! :) It better be here before xmas or ill be very very :mad: .

[abels621]

i was at lst central and some guy said that they were shipping in a "couple of days". He got that from Horizon. But he also said that on the 18th so they probaly should have shipped by now correct? what do you think?

[microrcdude]

looks much better, but i think it needs a different body.

[Monsterbrad]

I would have to agree the body is kinda ugly!
I think the new drive shafts may prove to be a little tougher then the old ones I hope.
I just broke the front cross pin in my LST last weekend.
Kinda pisses me off but there is a ton of stress there with all the power and the torque! :D

[abels621]

i dont mind the body. But i like it a lot more in red.

[Racing t]

oh men! the next thrusday I´ll be traveling to the us and I´m buying an LST, and i just called to the store and the guy said that probably they dont have the lst in stock for next week because losi is making the lst 2 and not the 1! thats a downer :( because they will not have the lst 2 in stock yet and either the 1! :mad:

[abels621]

that sucks but i heard that the lst2 should be coming out pretty soon. Maybe youll get lucky and theyll come out with it when your here.

[Racing t]

crossing my fingers......

[Colt M4]

Racing t do you live in the U.K.?

[trakhak]

SouthEastRC.com

Losi LST-2 $589.99

ETA: Dec. 10th


Just preordered mine!!!

[Scooby_WRX]

My LST2 will be in stock Monday! It shipped to them yesterday. I was pleased to see that Horizon had them in stock today.

[abels621]

i just called my lhs. They said they should have it in sometime next week. SCORE!!! Im so happy they came out. Ive been wanting a lst for a loong time and next week ill have it. The only thing that sux is i cant open it till christmas.

[fezzy]

They are due for release at the LHS next week in the UK too, I am going to have to fend off temptation when they arrive, as I'd love an LST2 to join my LST1 :p .

[losifreak2004]

Why fight the temptation? ;)

[fezzy]

Because two LST's is being greedy :D

[winning edge designs]

LOL

...Jim

[Colt M4]

Has anyone of the RC magazines got to test the LST2 yet?

[losifreak2004]

Fezzy - But they're not the same! One has a "2" after it...haha.

I have three XXX-NT AD2's..is that bad? LOL

Colt - Not that I've seen yet..but I'm sure it's coming soon.

[suckfish]

Well I just ordered mine from the local hobby shop should be in thursday...

[lazydel]

My shop has LST 2's I'm going there as soon as the wife gets home.

[lazydel]

Just got back from my LHS Peqasus Hobbies (Huge shop with great service) had like 8 LST2's on hand I got the first one. Trying to decide if I should wrap it and put it under the tree or just tear into it now?

[madsavage]

Just got back from my LHS Peqasus Hobbies (Huge shop with great service) had like 8 LST2's on hand I got the first one. Trying to decide if I should wrap it and put it under the tree or just tear into it now?


Please open it now. We all what to hear how it go's.

My LHS should have one this week(Perth Australia) so I'll probaly get one. for me it"s ether an LST a Helfire or a Jammin CRT. but the Hellfire may not be out till Feb next year and CRT will cost a lot by the time I get a good Engine an Radio.

I have a Savage with a Picco .27 that Love and if the M427 in the LST is as powerfull as the Picco I'd be Very happy. but I would like to her how the new LST go's before iI put my money down

[lazydel]

Please open it now. We all what to hear how it go's.

My LHS should have one this week(Perth Australia) so I'll probaly get one. for me it"s ether an LST a Helfire or a Jammin CRT. but the Hellfire may not be out till Feb next year and CRT will cost a lot by the time I get a good Engine an Radio.

I have a Savage with a Picco .27 that Love and if the M427 in the LST is as powerfull as the Picco I'd be Very happy. but I would like to her how the new LST go's before iI put my money down

I would love to open it up but I told my wife that she would not be able to wear the ring we picked out for her until christmas day, and she just told me the same thing about my new toy, so I kinda screwed myself. As for the comparisons to the other cars, depends on what you really want. I pass on truggies (Jammin CRT) because I just don't like the idea, it's not a buggy and it's definitly not a Monster truck. The Hellfire is a truggy if anything. Don't get me wrong truggies are cool in there own way but there is nothing like a big ol heavy screaming fast monster truck. A monster truck like this is great on the track and in the yard while a truggy is strictly for the track. $620 out the door for my LST 2 and it's ready to run. A truggy is about that much butt naked, except maybe for the unproven unseen Hellfire. Maybe she'll let me open the box and look at it, if so I'll snap some pics to post up.

[madsavage]

I would love to open it up but I told my wife that she would not be able to wear the ring we picked out for her until christmas day, and she just told me the same thing about my new toy, so I kinda screwed myself. As for the comparisons to the other cars, depends on what you really want. I pass on truggies (Jammin CRT) because I just don't like the idea, it's not a buggy and it's definitly not a Monster truck. The Hellfire is a truggy if anything. Don't get me wrong truggies are cool in there own way but there is nothing like a big ol heavy screaming fast monster truck. A monster truck like this is great on the track and in the yard while a truggy is strictly for the track. $620 out the door for my LST 2 and it's ready to run. A truggy is about that much butt naked, except maybe for the unproven unseen Hellfire. Maybe she'll let me open the box and look at it, if so I'll snap some pics to post up.

I'd Just let her have the ring, but I am thr impatient type LOL. Love to see you pic's.

I tend to agree with you there's nothing like a monster truck, but I also like the technolagy used in the CRT and Helfire. In the end though the big LST will look cool setting next to my Savage. and I cant see myself walking out of my LHS without one, when thay get it in.

Cheers

Pete

[suckfish]

Well I just got my confirmation of order shipped and due at the house on Thursday.. I don't no if I'll be able to sleep until Thursday.. I'll def add some Pic's when I get it.. http://home.comcast.net/~roundyr/roundyr.html

[abels621]

Just got mine in!! I cant open it till christmas though. I cant wait! Ill definitely keep you guys updated when i get it.

[IBSailing]

Ordered my first RC; Red LST2 today. Waiting UPS ground from Florida.
$589.99 @ But according to the rules, I can't tell you where.

[suckfish]

WEll got mine last week , thing is def massive, awesome truck. unfortunatley I'm in New England and it will be sitting on the shelf for the next 3 or so months... but that's okay , I've got plenty more to wrench...

[IBSailing]

Ordered my first RC; Red LST2 today. Waiting UPS ground from Florida. $589.99 @ southeastrc.

[Racing t]

ooo men I bought a LST 1 3 days ago and I pay like $641.99!!

[abels621]

just snuck a peak at this new beast today. This thing is HUGE and AWESOME looking. The new driveshafts are crazy thick to me (never owned or seen a lst before though). I plesantly discovered that it had a red body and that the tires look a lot better in reality than in pictures. I didnt pull it out of the box or take the body off though (ill wait till christmas) but so far this thing looks decked out. Ill keep u updated when i run it.
PS im dying to see hear how this thing runs. Anybody who has ran it please tell me. Im want to know how this big block runs compared to my pretty much stock tmaxx. (the lst2 is my first big-block)

[IBSailing]

ooo men I bought a LST 1 3 days ago and I pay like $641.99!!

I too would have probably paid 650, but then I asked in a forum who knew of a cheap place to buy online from and I tried another place but souteastrc beat them by $38.00 (for everything I ordered) and it was the standad list price... I did spend a total of 950 from them, and was only charged 9.00 shipping and no tax.

[Colt M4]

If you go to lstcentral.com and look under general discussion and pictures people talk about the LST2 and how it runs and they have some pretty cool pictures. I just bought the performance upgrade kit for my LST it looks pretty beffy now.

[winning edge designs]

IBSailing, it sounds like a fair deal you got to me.
It is a misconception that the dealer must feel like they got kicked in the knutz for you to have gotten a good deal.

You'll love the truck either way version 1 or 2 and since it can be upgraded no biggie really.

...Jim, jconcepts dot net

[abels621]

hey guys i have a quick question. Will the lst2 shocks fit on the lst1. I see no reason that they shouldn't. The lst2 and the lst1 shocks are the same size right? If they do, this could be a cheaper alternative to threaded shocks.

[Monsterbrad]

THe entire truck is interchangeable.
Happy Holidays

[SUNA]

LOCTITE YOUR SCREWS! Front drive shaft has dropped twice b/c there is no loctite on set screw.

[Monsterbrad]

Does it have 7 ports like the old Mach 26 does?????????????????????

[zakerid]

anyones diffs notchy?

[RaceTrackRat]

My Wife bought me an LST2 for Xmas. My LHS is selling them for $589 :eek: (plus tax of course)... now it's nust got to stop raining so I can drive it!

[abels621]

plan on breaking mine in tommorow. Will let you know how it goes. My friends breaking in his revo. after break in im going to smoke him!

[RaceTrackRat]

LOCTITE YOUR SCREWS! Front drive shaft has dropped twice b/c there is no loctite on set screw.

Thanks for the tip... I checked my new LST 2 and sure enough the front one was loose! I could slip it right off it, wouldn't have mattered if it had Loctite or not! It was like it was forgotten at the factory. I Emailed Losi to let them know!

[abels621]

Yep, my rear one was loose. loctited it up and broke it in. It wouldnt stay running at first and sounded rich so i adjusted the mixture back to factory settings. What a difference! The hsn was 6 turns out when it should have been four. Ran great. This thing rips. Ran about four tanks before it started to rain. Got to get it tuned up and the it will be popping wheelies like nothing! awesome!!

[mad-quick]

wow alot faster thent he lst1 it is very quick but i dont like the 20mm wheels what the hell is that now not one of my old rims and tires work i have 14-17-19 mm wheels and rims this does piss me off alot but wow quick and fast

[joracer21]

They sell lst2 for 549.99 at my lhs

[synapse75]

They sell lst2 for 549.99 at my lhs

Thats crazy.. MAP is 649.99

They are making about 30bux on the kit sale, i dont understand how they can afford to do that.

[Monsterbrad]

So the new .427 .26 runs good ehh :rolleyes:
here I thought it was going to be a .28
Horizon says it's a better hopped up version of the original Mach 26
Oh well I hope they last.
I have the new .427
going to be racing it this summer in my truggy!
This truck still has all the good stuff though.
I heard that the new arms are even a little thicker then the original.

[jr_racing]

I have still not put a drop of fuel in my LST2 yet. I have completley dissassembled it and built it back like this.........

diffs f/r.....cracked them open and cleaned them with mineral spirits. Reassembled and filled them with Mugen 50,000wt..........beautiful.

shocks.....drained the stock fluid and filled with Team Trinity 35wt shock fluid.....

chassis........ANY AND ALL metal on metal screw.....blue industrial strength loctite...........

suspension........Team Losi thin sway bar front and rear very tight!!

engine.......still have stock 427..........untouched........and replacing it with a Collari .32 with rotostar backplate.

I will running this truck in the IWC 4.0 that was featured in R/C CAR magazine this past summer.

Wish me luck.........

Peace
jr_racing :cool:

[Monsterbrad]

I took the new 427 apart
they ported it and polished it!
Looks good
I am very interested to see how it runs! :D

[abels621]

The 427 runs great! Its got tons of power and im running it rich and with only about 7 tanks through it. I cant wait to see it when it's had about a gallon through it.

[luvnitro]

I'd like to know what some of you LST 1 and LST 2 owners think about how easy it is to work on and get to everything on the trucks. It looks to me from pictures of the chassis and everything that it would be pretty easy to work on about anything on this truck. Thanks.

[MrCrash]

If it got any simpler, it would maintain itself. The arms are simple to replace, due to the captured pin design (no clips to worry about. Just remove the cover plate, and yank out the pin.). Everything esle is extremely simple to get to. The years of R&D were very well spent.

[luvnitro]

Has anyone heard that there may be a chance that Losi is going to offer the LST 2 with an AM radio in addition to the present way it's offered? I would really love to buy this truck, but I just can't see spending $650. I was in my LHS today and they said something about having heard this. I would defintely buy one then since the price would probably drop about $150 if they did.

[Raster]

Has anyone heard that there may be a chance that Losi is going to offer the LST 2 with an AM radio in addition to the present way it's offered? I would really love to buy this truck, but I just can't see spending $650. I was in my LHS today and they said something about having heard this. I would defintely buy one then since the price would probably drop about $150 if they did.

I seriously doubt it. It wouldn't drop $150, anyway. The LST2 is Losi's flagship truck and one of the big draws to that model is the nice radio that comes with it.

The FM radio that it comes with is probably only about a $50 premium over an AM, anyway.

[Raster]

Well, I was at the LHS the other day and was talking to the guy that I bought my LST2 from. He told me that a customer had come in the day before that had bought an LST2 from them. His 427 engine had thrown a rod.

I'm wondering if Losi has really gotten the problems with this engine fixed.

If and when my engine blows, while it's back at Losi, I'll put a Picco .27 in it and sell the replacment Mach 26/427.

[MrCrash]

Has anyone heard that there may be a chance that Losi is going to offer the LST 2 with an AM radio in addition to the present way it's offered? I would really love to buy this truck, but I just can't see spending $650. I was in my LHS today and they said something about having heard this. I would defintely buy one then since the price would probably drop about $150 if they did.
You could always get lucky, and find a LHS like the one I go to. $588 for the truck, and if you don't want the radio (just transmitter and reciever), they will remove it for you, and knock $100 off the price (I watched this happen when I was in there earlier tonight).

I figure using an AM radio in place of the FM wouldn't save a whole lot of cash. Don't think retail price for the radio, think about what Losi pays for them. Probably only a little more than an AM version, so there is no point is cheaping out at their end. If your gonna buy a killer truck, you may as well get a killer radio to go with it.

[metalry101]

If it got any simpler, it would maintain itself. The arms are simple to replace, due to the captured pin design (no clips to worry about. Just remove the cover plate, and yank out the pin.). Everything esle is extremely simple to get to. The years of R&D were very well spent.
Agreed. This is the easiest truck to work on EVER.

[luvnitro]

Anybody with the LST2 had a chance yet to get out and really bash with their truck? Was just wondering how it went and what you thought about the truck.

[madsavage]

Has anyone heard that there may be a chance that Losi is going to offer the LST 2 with an AM radio in addition to the present way it's offered? I would really love to buy this truck, but I just can't see spending $650. I was in my LHS today and they said something about having heard this. I would defintely buy one then since the price would probably drop about $150 if they did.

It would be nice if Losi sold the LST in kit form with no radio gear, like HPI do with the Savage. I would only need to buy a reciver and 2 servos to be up and running, and would also have the fun of building the truck.

[Monsterbrad]

This new engine as some of you already know is ported and polished a little!
As for the Rod in the New engine :mad:
It is NOT DOUBLE BUSHED !
this is a reliability issue and has been for any engine that is not double bushed.
This engine is a great power to money ratio but this is an issue that needs to be addressed.
SO in saying that I have a friend that can get rods for the engine's that are double bushed.
All we need is an order of 10 or more rods.
I am in for 2 he is in for 1 so we need 7 more people that would want them.
Please let me know if anybody is interested.

[Raster]

This new engine as some of you already know is ported and polished a little!
As for the Rod in the New engine :mad:
It is NOT DOUBLE BUSHED !
this is a reliability issue and has been for any engine that is not double bushed.
This engine is a great power to money ratio but this is an issue that needs to be addressed.
SO in saying that I have a friend that can get rods for the engine's that are double bushed.
All we need is an order of 10 or more rods.
I am in for 2 he is in for 1 so we need 7 more people that would want them.
Please let me know if anybody is interested.

Brad,
Has this been tested in these engines and been found to work properly? Who makes the rods and is the heat-treating in spec with the 427 engine design?

How much are they? Why does your friend have to order them and why in quantities of ten? Are these custom made in a machine shop somewhere?

I'm interested, but that's not much info.

[luvnitro]

Are the rods on all of the Mach engines not double bushed? I can't believe they don't do this. Most all engines have double bushings on the rods. I wonder if the manufacturer is going to correct this. Rods won't hold up long like this. Which end is not bushed?

[Raster]

Are the rods on all of the Mach engines not double bushed? I can't believe they don't do this. Most all engines have double bushings on the rods. I wonder if the manufacturer is going to correct this. Rods won't hold up long like this. Which end is not bushed?


Forgive my ignorance, but I don't really know what the bushing on a rod actually means. Are there any pictures on the Internet someone can point me to, that illustrates this?

Thanks.

[winning edge designs]

Raster, the bushing refers to what would be called a bearing on a fullsize engine, even though both are really bushings. It is between the rod ends and their connecting parts, wrist pin and cranks pin.

...Jim

jconcepts dot net

[RaceTrackRat]

Well I finally got my new LST2 broken in and even though I've only just started to get it dialed in and everything(2-speed/slipper and carb settings) adjusted to where it needs to it's very apparent that this truck is pretty awesome. I Love it, can't wait to go beat up on the neighborhood Revo's (one of which is my old one!) ;)

[abels621]

I got mine running pretty well, but im not sure if my slipper is set right. I messed with it a bit at first when i didnt know that my setscrew had came out. I fixed that problem (never had that problem since) and got it running good. Anyway is there an easy way to tell if its set right. Mine will wheelie occasionaly but i dont know if that has to do with a loose slipper or not. Do your guys trucks wheelie on demand? Can anyone tell me there settings and an easy wasy to check mine. Thanx a lot

[MrCrash]

It should be able to flip itself over easily. Tighten your slipper a little, and see what happens.

[luvnitro]

This new engine as some of you already know is ported and polished a little!
As for the Rod in the New engine :mad:
It is NOT DOUBLE BUSHED !
this is a reliability issue and has been for any engine that is not double bushed.
This engine is a great power to money ratio but this is an issue that needs to be addressed.
SO in saying that I have a friend that can get rods for the engine's that are double bushed.
All we need is an order of 10 or more rods.
I am in for 2 he is in for 1 so we need 7 more people that would want them.
Please let me know if anybody is interested.
Hey Monsterbrad, are you sure the rod in the new engine in the LST2 isn't double bushed? Did you do a teardown and find this? If so, surely they will correct this because I don't think the rod will hold up very long. I have been wanting to get one but I don'y know now. If I do, that engine will probably be taken out, sold, and replaced with something else. Thanks.

[madsavage]

I just picked up my new LST2 late last week (one of the first in Western Australia) Got it home and un-packed it, what a truck. It seems a lot bigger than my savage but a lot of the size defference is because of the wheels. one thing I dont like is that the Australian version of the LST come with a JR XR3i crystal radio not a XS3 Radio and with out a charger for the reciver pack. No charger I can understand as we have 240 volt power as opposed to 110 in the states so for the smaller markets it must be easier to let the customer buy the charger that suits thier area. But the down grade on the radio, WHY! it may make the kit a bit more affordable but only buy maybe 50 bucks and as a spair set of crystals cost me 40 bucks I dont see the point. to be fair the saving has been past on to the customer as in Australia the LST2 at most outlets is about $50 cheeper than the first LST.

As I've read on this forum the assembly of the LST2 leaves a bit to be desired so I pulled a lot of the truck apart an re-assembled using thead lock where required. I noted that the set srews in the axles on one side of the truck had tread lock and the other side did not, the screws between the chassis and the engine mount had tread lock but the 4 screws between the engine and the mount did not. The flat on the little pin on the CVD on the front diff was not located against the set screw as it should have been and there also was no tread lock, this would have failed very quickly imo. In the case of this truck RTR must stand for ready to repair, I would certainly recommend that a couple of hours spent in the work shop will save you a lot of time down the track replacing lost parts.

The truck started well and was easy to break in. Im still running it a bit rich but it seems to be making good power and can almost keep up with my .27 pecco Savage in first gear.

I have played with the adjustment of the gear shift but have not got it to work properly yet and I must have it too tight as its not shifting to 2nd gear (any body who has had success with this, your setting would be greatly appreciated)

My son and I took our trucks to a local park with some BMX jumps yesterday and the first thing I noted was how much easier it is to keep the LST on its wheels than the Savage also hiting a jump with both tracks at the same speed the LST seems to spend only about half the time in the air compared to the Savage, those big shocks are not just there for good looks. The LST also steers very well with alot more bite on turn in and alot more control with the 2 servo steering. I cant wait to get this truck to my local track.

Overall I'd have to say I very much like the truck and except for a couple off quality control issues that are easy to fix befor for you run it I would highly recommend the LST2

Cheers

Pete

[RaceTrackRat]

MadSavage...

At first I thought m LST2 wan't shifting into 2nd gear as well and it needed adjusting. But then I realized it was actually shifting into 2nd gear after only 5-10 feet from a dead stop. It wasn't the 2 speed adjustment, it was actually the slipper, it was to loose. I tightened it up just a 1/2 turn and my truck started shifting great and the truck is pulling much harder, almost lifting the front tires off the ground!

[R6racer2]

Is the LST bigger or a truggy (LSP, CRT, etc)?

[madsavage]

MadSavage...

At first I thought m LST2 wan't shifting into 2nd gear as well and it needed adjusting. But then I realized it was actually shifting into 2nd gear after only 5-10 feet from a dead stop. It wasn't the 2 speed adjustment, it was actually the slipper, it was to loose. I tightened it up just a 1/2 turn and my truck started shifting great and the truck is pulling much harder, almost lifting the front tires off the ground!

Thanks TrackRat

I'll give it a try. the slipper does seem a bit loose at the recommended setting

[luvnitro]

I wonder what mag will have the first full test on the LST2? I'm anxious to see it.

[mdewitt71]

Anyone gonna show thiers off????????????

[RaceTrackRat]

I just got done running it so it's not clean. It's pretty much stock, I changed out the fuel line and stuff and added the heavy duty skid plate (I had two weeks to stare at it waiting for it to stop raining!)
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f305/Racetrackrat/LST2001a.jpg
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f305/Racetrackrat/LST2003a.jpg
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f305/Racetrackrat/LST2004a.jpg
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f305/Racetrackrat/LST2005a.jpg
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f305/Racetrackrat/LST2006a.jpg

[RaceTrackRat]

I just finished making a roll bar for it... I'll post pics if anyone's interested

[Monsterbrad]

I like the center skid plate!

[Raster]

I just got done running it so it's not clean. It's pretty much stock, I changed out the fuel line and stuff and added the heavy duty skid plate (I had two weeks to stare at it waiting for it to stop raining!)

Racetrack,

What brand skid plate is that? I would like to see the roll bar, by the way.

Thanks

[RaceTrackRat]

Racetrack,

What brand skid plate is that? I would like to see the roll bar, by the way.

Thanks

It's made by Losi it's thier heavy duty hard anodized one!

http://www.horizonhobby.com/Shop/ByCategory/Product/Default.aspx?ProdID=LOSB2261

[RaceTrackRat]

Here's some pics of my roll bar. It's my first attempt/prototype... we'll have to wait and see how it holds up to the abuse. It'll definitely protect the engine head!

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f305/Racetrackrat/LST2RollBar002a.jpg
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f305/Racetrackrat/LST2RollBar005a.jpg
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f305/Racetrackrat/LST2RollBar008a.jpg
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f305/Racetrackrat/LST2RollBar010a.jpg

[Monsterbrad]

How is the engine in this new truck??????

[Raster]

Here's some pics of my roll bar. It's my first attempt/prototype... we'll have to wait and see how it holds up to the abuse. It'll definitely protect the engine head!


Nice. Thanks for posting pictures.

[Monsterbrad]

here is my take on that roll bar
Looks great but try to make it so that you can turn the air cleaner forward cause you will notice with the air cleaner like that you will suck all kinds of crap if you run through some water.
I like the motor saver with the big extension on it so you can still get to the Hand L lever if needed.
Just a thought
Looks sweet though
How do you like the engine so far????

[RaceTrackRat]

The engine is Sweet, Tons of power and easy to tune. I haven't timed a run yet but I get quite a good run time on each tank. Can't wait for the body to get messed up enough to justify (to the wife) a reason to buy a new body. I have a dozen ideas for the old Air brush!

[Monsterbrad]

Get the Chevy HD body
I have one painted like my real truck and it looks awesome.
All RED :D with tinted wondows like my Z-71

[RaceTrackRat]

Well I got it past her ! LOL I went out and bought a CrowdPleaser. I wanted an Illuzion but I can find one for the next body paint! Now it's time to paint! :cool:

[Monsterbrad]

I was thinking about ebay ing my LST and buying the new 2
I can get a pretty good deal on one right now at Speed Zone Raceway in TN.
Anybody know someone who wants a like new LST 1.
Its in perfect shape
500 takes it
RTR with aluminum diff cups

[Ball Racing]

Good luck..

[Monsterbrad]

I should be able to get around there.
It's almost new condition!
I am still in the air about selling it.
Racing has taken over
truggy is just too much fun
but I still love the LST its the best in my opinion! :D

[Challenger]

Here's some pics of my roll bar. It's my first attempt/prototype... we'll have to wait and see how it holds up to the abuse. It'll definitely protect the engine head!

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f305/Racetrackrat/LST2RollBar002a.jpg
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f305/Racetrackrat/LST2RollBar005a.jpg
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f305/Racetrackrat/LST2RollBar008a.jpg
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f305/Racetrackrat/LST2RollBar010a.jpg


I bought a cage from rc soultions, a blue one. It looked so neat I bought a second one for my other lst.

[Monsterbrad]

Sweet !

[chrisoneal]

were would i be able ot get one at for the cheapest price besides ebay.

[chrisoneal]

guys i got my lst2 today and do i have to unplug it everytime i want to charge it. i hope not is there a port like on the revo..

[chrisoneal]

well today i got thru the first tank.. GLow plug went bad.. Not working. The high and low gear . Should i break it in on the low or high..proly the low right. But when i put it into high will it hit 2nd gear. and when i keep it in low will it hit 2nd gear. and what is a good plug to use im ussing 30% to break in on..

[Raster]

What is the most gallons anyone has on their Mach 427 engine, so far? (I'm trying to decide whether to keep my engine or sell it, before I crank it for the first time.)

Thanks.

[chrisoneal]

i jsut got the first tank tru it

[JIMMYBANGBANG]

how much does this truck weigh? how big is the gas tank? and how durable is the plastic? also has anybody had any issues dealing with the center driveshafts? also has anybody tried removing the motor?

also what does everybody think of the 20mm rims? what tire/rim selection do you have for this kit?

[chrisoneal]

i think the truck weighs around 13/lbs and the plastic seems pretty durable so far. The gas tank is 220cc fuel tank i think. not sure. like the tires alot grip real good. just hard to do flips the dont ballon at all.not good air control with it

[RaceTrackRat]

guys i got my lst2 today and do i have to unplug it everytime i want to charge it. i hope not is there a port like on the revo..

That crossed my mind, I've considered just adding a pigtail if I ever get tired of unplugging it. I used to have a Revo... it's one of those simple things but it was nice!

[RaceTrackRat]

how much does this truck weigh? how big is the gas tank? and how durable is the plastic? also has anybody had any issues dealing with the center driveshafts? also has anybody tried removing the motor?

also what does everybody think of the 20mm rims? what tire/rim selection do you have for this kit?

Hope this helps:

Specs
Type: 4WD Nitro Monster truck
Scale: Monster Truck
Width: 18.5 in (470mm)
Wheelbase: 14.2 in (361mm)
Weight: 13 lbs. (5897g)
Chassis: Dual-deck aluminum with composite ladder braces
Suspension: 4-wheel independent H-arm
Drive Train: Center Hi/Lo trans, 2-speed w/slipper and 2 differentials
Tire Type: ATX low-profile racing tires
Motor or Engine: Mach 427 (.427cc) with tuned exhaust system
Radio: JR XS3 Synthesized FM system
Servos: Z590 (steering x 2), Z270 for throttle/brake & shift
Batteries: 1100MAH NiMH receiver pack
Charger: 110v, 100MAH overnight charger
Speed: 40+MPH
Wheel Size: 40-series using 20mm drive hex
Kit/RTR: RTR
Shock Type: Oversized threaded coil-over mega shock
Body: LST2 Racer type, prefinished
Ball Bearings: Complete
Fuel Tank Capacity: 220 c.c.

Haven't heard of any issues with the plastic, it's put up with all the abuse I've given it. If you really want to see the difference between this and the original LST go to your LHS and compare the OEM suspension parts to each other. The LST2 arms are considerably beefier(is that a real word?).

Haven't pulled the engine out yet.

I like the rims and tires, haven't had any issues. The rims themselves come in yellow or white and are suppose to fit most "40” series super low profile monster truck tires and they only cost $12 a pair.

[Monsterbrad]

My LST 1 is up for grabs.
Has aluminum diff cases
tires are still like new
comes RTR with reciever pack installed.
Add fuel and go.
The engine hardly has 2 quarts through it.

[chrisoneal]

witch two are better the jr z590m or two hitec 645

[Raster]

witch two are better the jr z590m or two hitec 645



Chris,

If you're asking about replacing the stock steering servos with a couple of Hitec 645s, I wouldn't recommend it. The 645 has more torque than the 590, but is not the most durable servo.

For about $10 more a piece, I would suggest a couple of JR 650 servos, instead of the 645s.

Now, if your budget is even bigger, there are several other options that have more torque and speed - from JR, Airtronics and Hitec, but a pair of the JR Z650M servos would make a good pair on a budget.

R.

[chrisoneal]

ok thanks for the info but i will look around and see whats the best.

[motoholic]

I'm pretty much a newb. I got an xxx-s for X-mas, but I'm looking into gettin a nitro truck cause we're moving to an area w/ a lot of dirt. Is this LST2 ok for newbs or shood I go w/ something like a maxx or mgt

[chrisoneal]

the MGT is really user friendly. But the lst2 does not require that much work with it. The engine seems pretty easy to tune. i use a mc59 and 30% fuel

[Monsterbrad]

Be careful with that 30% when the air gets colder if you are in that kinda climate.
The MGT is really no comparison to the LST 2 or the first one.
This truck is ready to rip outa the box with a great radio system servo's and now there up dated throttle and brake linkage I see is cool also.
The 2 is the way to go if you are just getting into the LST.
This truck is awesome in all ways

[chrisoneal]

ok then im going to go back to 20% what plug do u sudjest.

[chrisoneal]

I broke my anttena on the RX what kinda wire do i need

[chrisoneal]

just some info found some other weak parts of this truck. I have broke 2 arms in a week and a front bulkhead. Dont know if it was from bashing in 30* weather or what. But it wasnt like i was jumping over a house just a home made ramp about 2 feet tall

[losifreak2004]

Everything is more brittle in cold weather...especially when it gets that cold! Plastics, metals, human bones...haha.

[chrisoneal]

yea i know but i was bashing my revo and savage and revo today and nothing broke.But yea i know that everything is weaker in cold. But i think maybe there was a weak part. I put the shocks in the other hole and screwed a little tite. And put a hole on the other side of the arm and thats were it broke at clean cut.

[Ball Racing]

Why do you think you need to be careful with 30% in cold weather?

I know from the model airplane world that in hot summer you can get by on as low as 5%nitro, but come cold weather you better up the nitro% if you want if to run....

As long as you set your needles right , thats the key - any time of year, any nitro content...

[Monsterbrad]

Always remember with Model air plains one thing.
AIR FLOW from the prop.
These engines are all together different
I was speaking from a bad experience with a Mach and a glow plug coil and 30%. When it was a little colder out. :mad:

[Raster]

I was wondering why it would be bad to run 30% in th winter, too. Any definitive data?

Thanks.

[MrCrash]

I always thought higher nitro ran cooler, but wore down your engine faster. Just tune accordingly, and you should be fine.

[nitro lover]

I just got my LST2 and pulled the 427 out and put a picco .27 in. I have gotten only one tank through it so far. I did not make the engine swap based on anything, just wanted more power out of the box. I did put the 427 in my son's new savage x though.

[losifreak2004]

Higher nitro content fuel can make the engine run cooler, but it won't wear the engine out any faster (or slower) as long as you have it tuned correctly. If you run a higher nitro percentage and then lean the engine out so it runs back at the original temperature, your engine will be leaner than you were before and that will cut down on lubrication.

Cold air is more dense, which will cause your engine to run leaner than it would if it was hot out. The biggest thing to watch for when raising or lowering the amount of nitro in your fuel is to run the correct deck height. Adding a small head-shim to the Mach-engines may not be a bad idea if you are going to run 30%. I will e-mail the guys at Losi and see if they recommend changing deck height to run 30% in those engines.

chrisoneal - The LST2 is a big truck..if you cut or damaged the arm and it was cold out on top of it, that's almost undoubtedly why it broke.

nitrolover - I think you'll be very pleasantly surprised with the power output of the Mach engine. They run very well and get the big LST2 moving in a good hurry.

[chrisoneal]

never cut it on purpose. just the screw for the shock went in to far and damage the back side of the arm. I was running 30. and i noticed that my piston head had this weird ruff stuff on top of it. what is that from. I run my truck rich with the 30. still have mad speed and acc. Never gets hot. Spit test it takes about 5 sec to boil off. Dont have a temp gun tho.. I also noticed that the piston head is kinda tarnishing. and thats what you get from over heating right.

[Monsterbrad]

Get a temp gun it's a must.
The piston will get that way just from running it.
Don't be worried about that

[chrisoneal]

ok thanks what kinda temp gun do u guys recomend

[Breakin2]

Is it possible to upgrade the Losi 20mm hubs to 23mm hubs. The Pro-
line ones look like they only work with 14mm hubs in terms of
upgrading. Would the CEN ones work?

[Ball Racing]

Brad ,
You told me to remeber that the airplane always had air blowing over it?
So,
this statment was about cool weather and 30%,
The plane deal I spoke of was a example of %'s, not operating temps...

If your engine overheated and burned out the coil,in cool weather it was just flat too lean......

And if anyone has noticed pits, or marks on the piston top, it may have been that famous washer parts beating around,or dirt that made it past the filter.
Some brands of engines don't have a well machined finish piston top, and it looks even when new -that it has tiny dimples, or rough areas...

And the discoloring of the piston top can be several things, the oil burning off out of the fuel, overheating yes, air leaks causing leaning. Type of afterrun oils (if any)
Types of oil in different brands of fuels and just general combustion making good power.

[MrCrash]

The washer proplem was resolved many months ago.

[chrisoneal]

what was the washer problem and witch one

[Monsterbrad]

any temp gun now days will work.
I have the dynamite one or atomic.
Duratrash makes the same thing also.
I am just not a fan of 30% in a RTR engine this one does not really nead it any how.
The washer situation was taken care of but there may still be a few trucks out there that have them.
Its on the rod where it attatches to the crank.
At this point I always take apart the engines when I get them to inspect everything.
Losi got rid of the washer idea and it you lose a Mach they will send you a new one if you send them your old one.
I did it 4 times :)

[chrisoneal]

hey do u think u can post a pic of what ur talking about.

[Monsterbrad]

There are pics on the LST forum on here.
Go and check it out.
It will be around 15 pages back or so I think
If you have a newer truck it will not be a problem and the new 427 looks good inside other then the rod is not double bushed.

[chrisoneal]

well i was wanting to know why the top of my pisont head is pitting.

[Monsterbrad]

Post some pics
I have seen a few do that but never run any differently

[chrisoneal]

well i cant post some pics. camra to crappy looks to blurry on it.
But it looks like its a very ruff. And it looks like some one scraped it on the ground or that there is a something growing on it.

[Monsterbrad]

Sounds to me like you lost the glow plug coil into the engine.
Which would mean that your truck will not be running very well.
That happened to me and it trashed the piston and sleeve

[losifreak2004]

The LST and LST2 motors should be shimmed for 30% fuel out of the box, so you should be good to go in terms of head clearance; checked with the guys at Losi to make sure.

[Monsterbrad]

thats what I said but some are running them with 30% and are having no problems.
I will probabaly not run 30% there really is no need for it.

[slw4red]

I got my LST2 Yesterday, WOW, What a truck!!!
Awesome in everyway, Have not run it in yet.
WOW,
Sorry just compared to my savage.....
This thing is bigger overall in all ways than my savage, how is it classed as
1\10 (thats what i read everywhere....).
http://www.putfile.com/slw4red
Will post some vids there of the LST2, and pics.
There is already pics and vids of my SH.28 prospec savage there.
Cheers, LOL
Just wanted to share the news with ya'll.

[horndog732000]

Can anyone tell me if replacing the stock pipe will improve performance? I keep seeing a cool shiny blue dual stinger pipe, but I don't know if I want to spend $70 on it just for the looks.

[horndog732000]

Is it just me or is there just a little too much space between the glow plug & the body for the ignitor to reach? I have to really push down on the top of the body for the ignitor to go on.
I also drilled a hole in the driver's side for the starter hex, has anyone else found another way?

[losifreak2004]

The stock pipe is pretty darn good as far as power goes. I'm sure there are pipes out there that could make a difference as far as power but it's not really necessary.

You do have to push down on the body to get the igniter onto the glow plug but it won't hurt anything. You can get longer-reach igniters but I don't know how long of one you will find..haha.

I've seen people usually just lift the body up to engage the starter. Again...no harm no foul.

[Monsterbrad]

How is the 427 treating you guys that are running it?

[slw4red]

Hey how was everyones LST2 to run in, ive put 5 tanks Though it today, straight out the box settings, rich as HELL!!! it left a oil trail on the road in ovals and figure 8's no joke.
is it normal for it to be hard to get reving\moving while running it in? easy to roll. i mean to drive it its hard to get it moving,
to get it to move off the line without me helping it with a push?
My HPI 21bb in my savage was like this but not quite as bad, and my SH.28 prospec i stuffed in my savage afterwards was pulling wheelies like there is no tomorrow, During break in! actually the 1st pull on the throttle made it backflip on the spot sorta, lol no joke. anyway this is really a slug to get moving,
during the 5th tank i leaned out the HSN 1\4 of a turn roughly and it got better but still slug off the line,
it runs awesome JUST b4 the tank runs out, only for a couple of seconds...
is this still normal to be happening, the gearbox is set on high range and i'm running 10% nitro with 18% oil and 72% methanol.
some "great run in juice" as my LHS dude said, he whipped up the fuel out the back. could that be making it like this? 18% oil?..
the other 3 engines i have run-in have not been this bad
i broke in my .18 1\10 buggy with 5% nitro
my 21bb with 5%
my SH .28 prospec with 15%.
i guess i just dont want to hurt my new losi lol,
sorry for the long rant, but could some lst2 owners please help me out with some feedback to how their engines performed and what nitro they ran, during the break in,
Cheers
other than that, the truck is awesome, in everyway. steering is LOADS better than my savage.
everything just runs so smooth.

[chrisoneal]

well i had the same problem with it being rich. just lean it out some more. I have the hsn 1/2 turning leaner and the lsn 1/4 turn leaner and runs great. But it might not be the same for you.

[Monsterbrad]

the tranny in this truck does have issues with runnning freely when you first start breaking it in also.
I would not mess with the low speed needle just lean out the high end and see what happens.
I have also heard some people having issues with shifting.
You may have to adjust that too.
Another thing to maybe check out is the new aluminum shoes have super stiff springs which will result in a delay on take off.
I would start with leaning out the high end needle.

[slw4red]

[QUOTE=I would start with leaning out the high end needle.[/QUOTE]


I have done this ONLY. about 1\4 turn in, made it better. but thats high oil fule my lhs made me i think is sh*t.
going to get some good fuel now.

the way it was it kinda felt like a slipping clutch with a worn out gearbox lol,

anyway' i'll give it another shot today, see how this thing runs

[slw4red]

[QUOTE=I would start with leaning out the high end needle.[/QUOTE]


I have done this ONLY. about 1\4 turn in on the HSN, made it better. but that high oil fuel my lhs made me i think is sh*t.
going to get some good fuel now.
Might just run some "premium as the lhs puts it" 15% in it for a while see how it goes

the way it was it kinda felt like a slipping clutch with a worn out gearbox lol,

anyway'
i'll give it another shot today, see how this thing runs.

[losifreak2004]

There's no reason to break in your engine with fuel that's different than what you plan on running in it. All a ridiculous oil content will do is make the engine hotter; oil doesn't burn and what excess the fuel has from not being burnt will be expelled through the pipe anyway. If you use a different fuel from what you will run the engine on, it won't necessarily hurt anything, but you will have to re-tune when you switch fuels.

I would stick with good quality fuels for your engine...Trinity, O'Donnell, Rocket Science, Sidewinder, Byrons, etc. You don't need any more than 12% oil or close to that really..30% nitro in the Mach 427 is fine as well.

[slw4red]

Mongrels!!! i got 5 litres of fuel, got home, didnt say what % of everything it was other than nitro 15%
So i called them up Grrr its got 18% oil 67% methanol and 15% nitro,
what makes it worse is the fact that i had already ran half a litre through it before i rang, dam this is a mennace to tune, if i post a vid of it running could someone tell me maybe what to alter to run better, like what to adjust?? as i usually run different fuel in my other truck with 12% oil. and its easy to tune. this well not easy plus the last 1\4 of the tank it leans itself out abit.
anyway, i'll go run a tank through it and get my wife to record it with my phone, so i can post it.

[slw4red]

Can someone have a look at these, tell me what i'm doing wrong,

this clip was taken not long after starting it up (notice its a dog off the line)??
http://media.putfile.com/My-LST2-Vid-2

Then tawards the end of the day this is how it was running, After another litre of fuel, (still a slug off the line but runs kinda ok)
http://media.putfile.com/My-LST2-Vid-4


Ok.
From that what is going on??? I'm pulling my hair out over this lol, nah jkn.
But yeah something is not right here though, any suggestions?

[chrisoneal]

try leaning out ur lsn is small amount. That should take care of the hesitation off the line

[horndog732000]

HEY!, Sorry I haven't been keeping up reading these the last couple days but I had the SAME EXACT problem with mine! I had a HELL of a time getting it going off the line without pushing it with my foot, even after breaking it in. Finally after reading some of these forums I checked the settings compared to what the manual said was factory settings. I don't remember where the lsn was but the hsn was way off, so I reset them both to factory. MAN, it left a puddle of oil in like 2 seconds, just like you said happened to you. Anyway, to make a long story a little shorter, my main problem with taking off was the LSN. I leaned it out in 1/8 turn increments a few times and I went from feeling like you are now to being practically GIDDY (that means really happy, just in case you didn't know) in like 10 minutes. It even IDLES without loading up now! And talk about WHEELIES! It would do them a little before, but after leaning out the lsn I had to adjust the slipper clutch to keep it from flipping all the time!
Hope this helps because I know EXACTLY how you feel! :eek:
PS: Make sure you post a vid after you get it running good.

[slw4red]

Today was Great!!!
I even got her dirty lol

I'm alot happier with the truck now.

Well i reset it back to factory.....
it was 1 and a half turns too rich on the LSN.
I have uploaded 2 movies of today.
do you all think its going better, LOL i do!

You may need Xvid Codecs to watch those 2 movies.
here is the Download link for Xvid ONLY about 700kb.

Xvid http://download.divxmovies.com/XviD-1.1.0-30122005.exe

Here are the 2 movies.
Vid 1 http://media.putfile.com/New-LST2-Day-3-Putting-Around-1
Vid 2 http://media.putfile.com/New-LST2-Day-3-Putting-Around-2

They are not much but it shows that my issue is solved.
Cheers.
http://www.putfile.com/slw4red

[chrisoneal]

Does anyone think that the 35wt in the shock are to soft. And i plan on putting 50 in there will that be to much for bashing. And is anyone else having problems with watching the videos above me.

[slw4red]

You need Xvid for these 2 movies, the link is in my previous post,
That should get the vids going.
I also am interested in upping the wt in the shock oil, for bashing...

Any thoughts?

[chrisoneal]

well i put 50 wt in works good but when u apply brakes and try to turn the back tire lifts up when doing this. But i also have a preload on my truck so give it a shot. I ever hear of people putting 70wt in there but i think that is for racing.

[slw4red]

Does it hurt to stretch springs (SLIGHTLY)
i notice after awhile they start to sag ever so slightly.
Not my lst2,
but my savage does, and my buggy.
i'm talking only stretch it back about 1cm or so, just to bring it back to normal.
would 50wt be better for bashing the lst2?? can you get something in between?
i guess thats a silly question on a forum...
i think i am best to try out some different combo's myself
might pick up another set of lst2 shocks to play trial and error with them.
Whats the going rate for a full set of lst2 shocks in australia, anyone know,
i cant find much on the lst2 here...
Does anyone know any good shops that sell lst2 parts in AU?

[Monsterbrad]

So the new engine rips then
I like to hear that cause the old Mach 26 runs awesome too.
You can't beat this engine for the money.
It runs awesome.
I am still having fun with my 1
I have to say the best basher truck ever

[Ball Racing]

Just set your spring spacers or threaded collars, you don't stretch springs on these things, and expect it to me the same run after run.

Also dirt in the suspension will cause binding at the end of the day, and it may not have the same ride height as compared to your start..

[slw4red]

Cheers
thanks for the info

[Monsterbrad]

I have noticed that the steering becomes an issue after time also.
Ther bearings actually wear into the steering arms so replacing them and putting new bearings in there would be a good idea every year depending on wear.

[slw4red]

Has anyone got any feedback on 40wt shock oil for bashing with the stock silver springs, how does the truck handle?

[Monsterbrad]

I found for bashing the stock oil works the best.
All though I try not to jump the truck too super hard

[ricardinho]

ok i know this truck is specifically made for bashing but does anyone here race there LST2 or run them on off road tracks could you share some of your set ups and mods, are much needed? cheers

[Monsterbrad]

take the big pre load spacers off the shocks
let it ride low
change the tires and wheels mostly the tires.
Try it see what happens
See what the other guys at your track have to say that's always your best bet cause they race there and know what the track is like.
From what I can see you want the truck low but you still want the suspension to work good.
That's why I liked the stock everything and just remove the spacers to drop the ride height.
There is a list of other things you can do.
Read back through some pages and see what they are all doing to there to make them more race ready.
Good Luck

[ricardinho]

take the big pre load spacers off the shocks
let it ride low
change the tires and wheels mostly the tires.
Try it see what happens
See what the other guys at your track have to say that's always your best bet cause they race there and know what the track is like.
From what I can see you want the truck low but you still want the suspension to work good.
That's why I liked the stock everything and just remove the spacers to drop the ride height.
There is a list of other things you can do.
Read back through some pages and see what they are all doing to there to make them more race ready.
Good Luck

ok thanks i have just read through the whole forumn nearly getting myself sacked :eek: lol there is not any real talk on racing setups but thanks for your info tires allot of guys at my track used bow tie style tires ill have to look into that the stock where all over the place the track is ver ysry and sandy .............also on dropping the suspension down just one question when i do this the springs dont seem to reach would it hurt if i streched them out a bit or would you reccomened getting new springs and which ones.

[Monsterbrad]

Do not stretch the springs
just get small spacers to take up a bit of that slack.
I know they have them.
Good luck with racing the truck

[luvnitro]

Hey LST2 owners, what do most of you think about the ease of working on this truck? Is everything easy to get to and work on on this truck? I have an MGT and it is very easy to work on and get to everything. I was thinking about getting an LST2. I have been wanting to get one for a long time since the first one came out, but just haven't made that big move yet. Thanks for any replies.

[Monsterbrad]

Diffs are out in minutes.
Motor the same
tranny is a little more involved cause there is so much stuff hooked to it.
I would say its very easy to work on.
The new 2 version has all the goodies that you need in the Kit.
The only thing that I don't like is the Body and tires.
Bigger hubs seem to be hard on axles but I have heard no one say anything about the axles breaking lately.
They seem to have fixed the problem course the new ones are beefer then the 1st version.

[bpg1978]

I agree. The LST is easy to work on. I have had to remove the diffs to fill them with diff fluid...easy. I've removed the middle tranny 5+ times for several upgrades and it was simple. Nothing seems to be difficult.

[Monsterbrad]

The diffs come out very easy
I was floored the first time I took them out for service in my first LST.
It was a cake job all the way.