Team Losi Mini LST

[TRF Drive Hard]

At the request of baih... post away boys! :cool:

[RCMadMatt]

Cool! Just what us MLST owners needed!! :)

Matt

[rckid11]

My MLST is on the way. I am going to upgrade to the CAW axels and one motor plate. For electronics I am going to use a Mamba 25 esc and AON 4900. Can't wait to get it.

[baih]

wow :eek: that was fast lol
thanks
bruce

[new2radiocars]

thanks guys. Once we open it up at xmas, I'm sure I'll have lots of inquiries!

[teampeter]

Hey guys! Thanks TRF! Anybody else have their MLST sidelined cuz of dogbones grinding their pins off? Mine is on the shelf and is very sad, let me tell you. Looks like I'll have to lose 12 bucks! *sigh* :(
Ciao

Pete

[Philly's Finest]

Sounds like binding or maybe they were bent. Might want to contact losi about that.

Cool to see the mlst thread in here. Mine is a green machine. Currently it is in a thousand pieces spread out on my bed. Plan is to shim the diffs & drop in the mip diff in the center when it arrives in the mail, and pray for the release of the metal diff gears. Once they come its hyperion 6k all the way baby.

Woot!

[new2radiocars]

You guys are making me nervous with all the "glitches" you guys keep talking about. I haven't even taken ours out of the box yet and I feel like it's going to break xmas morning as soon as my son starts to play. What's up with that?

[4DMNYC]

So i was bashing my mlst in my backyard on Saturday right, I'm launching it off of some decent sized jumps (about five feet high). All my landings were perfect. So then I do a jump, and I must have severed a battery wire on the landing because once it hit the ground it started smoking like crazy. I literaly melted the battery connector and wires, and I fried mt esc. Oh well, I wanted to upgrade anayway.

[Racing t]

dont worry new2, mines is working great! I have 10 packs throug it without a single problem, and I am doing serius bashing.

[captanabolic]

yep mine is running great also, You should do a couple of things to it to make the drive train hold up better. :D
1. lube the gears, ring pinion in the diffs. transmission gears. Losi overlooked greasing up the gears bad QC. :(
Associated green slime works great or some light white grease
http://www2.gpmd.com/image/a/ascc1105.jpg

2. make sure all the screws are tight!!! :eek:
3. you can slow down the diff action and lock up the center diff with this
ofna diff lock grease
http://www.acehardwarehobbies.com/2.2/catalog/images/diff_lock.jpg
OFN10230
4. get yourself a set of CAW(Country Alloy Works) hub adapters so you can run wheels and tires like this :D
COUNTRY ALLOY WORKS HEX ADAPTER (http://cgi.ebay.com/LOSI-MINI-LST-CAW-EXTENDED-AXLE-HUB-SET-BLOCK-OFF-PLATE_W0QQitemZ6022967648QQcategoryZ44028QQssPageN ameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)
http://imagehost.vendio.com/bin/imageserver.x/00000000/countryalloyworks/.mids/lst4.JPG
http://imagehost.vendio.com/bin/imageserver.x/00000000/countryalloyworks/.mids/lst5.JPG
http://captanabolic.onestop.net/lst-0061.jpg

I'm getting this setup in the mail should be a good setup for racing/bashing
HPI Mesh Wheel Black Super Nitro (http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/WTI0001P?&I=LXMX92)
http://www2.gpmd.com/image/h/hpic3036.jpg

Pro-Line 2.2 Rear M3 Buggy Bowtie Tire (http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/WTI0001P?&I=LXDX75)
http://www2.gpmd.com/image/p/proc8187.jpg


Also here is a pic I got form a losi tech to help with the diffs

http://captanabolic.onestop.net/MLSTFIX202.jpg

The shim I believe is a 4mm mini t shim
Have fun it is a great little truck

[teampeter]

The dogbone prob is the ONLY problem I have had (the glitching doesn't count, it was a flaw that I have only heard of with mine) after about 20 packs and it has got about half an hour of flight time :D :D :D Don't worry new2, you'll have fun!
I'll call Losi later.
Ciao

Pete

[4DMNYC]

The only problem I've had with mine is the battery wire. And that is after a month of abuse to the stock truck. Oh and I cracked a rim the night I got it, but that was my fault.

Hey captanabolic, are those adapters available in stores or only on ebay?I did a search but couldn't find anything.

[Racing t]

cant wait for releace of aftermarket parts to this little truck!

[schenck77]

i am really liking mine so far. the only problems I have had is the rims, broke two already. Called losi and they said they will send me replacements but they are not expecting any for another week. I will be going over to 2.2 rims and 12mm hexes to solve the problem though. Other then that I am just waiting for the spool to come out so I wont have to worry about killing the pinion gear.

[baih]

gives us a link to who is selling the wheel adapters
thanks

[schenck77]

you can get those adaptors on ebay threw country alloy works. 6024031728

[new2radiocars]

Captan, Why the little washer shims? What are they fixing for you. What is hte proper method for adding grease to the diffs? Is there a oil hole or cap to remove? Do I fill it up all the way or just partially so there is room for it all to move around in there? Why a different grease in the center diff, and why do I want that one to lock up? Thanks.

[captanabolic]

4D, Sorry bro the only place you can get them is Off EBAY or directly from COUNTRY ALLOY works. The are a small private company. Well worth the 29.00 bucks.

New2radio,
There is a known issue from losi with the ring gear, the pinion gear, and the diff gears and the hexes were molded incorrectly. Losi is fixing the problem and new gears should be out in a couple of weeks. You can email or call them the will send out the new gears. The little washer eliminates the small amount of PLAY in the gears helping them to last longer. The OFNA grease you have to apply by opening up the diffs and spreading some on the bevel gears to make the truck more like 4wd. Greasing the ring and pinion gears will just make them last longer. By appling some diff locking grease to center diff bevel gears you make the truck have equal power to the front and rear wheels. Right know it seems alot of the power goes to the front in stock form.

All this is not necessary, this just to help keep the truck running smoothly. I mean common sense should have told losi where there are gears there should be some type of lubricant. But alot of these problems are out of losi's hands when the truck leaves them to go into production and being build overseas. who knows what goes on over there.

THE CAPT

[captanabolic]

BAIH,
The link is in my original post, here it is again if you missed it

http://cgi.ebay.com/LOSI-MINI-LST-CAW-EXTENDED-AXLE-HUB-SET-BLOCK-OFF-PLATE_W0QQitemZ6022967648QQcategoryZ44028QQssPageN ameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[Racing t]

capt how much grease should I apply on center diff?

[baih]

thanks, i added them to my sellers list

[new2radiocars]

Thanks Cap. I'll probably get my LHS to add the washer and grease or change the gears if it comes out soon. Please post here when you see them out as I do not browse the parts market. Happy Holidays!

[rshooch]

lookin to get one about how fast does it go stock??

[littlebuddha]

anyone know when the second batch will be coming out that has most of the problems with diffs, wheel hexes etc fixed?

[constantmotion]

lookin to get one about how fast does it go stock??

About 16.5 MPH

[4DMNYC]

Heres a link that was brought to my attention from another forum member.Hop up's (http://www.horizonhobby.com/Shop/ByCategory/Product/RelatedParts.aspx?ProdID=LOSB0215&Category=Hop-Ups&SubCategory=)

thanks legend ;)

[dkj-M3]

are the insane motors a direct fit for a mini-t??

[captanabolic]

RACING T, You can tune them by how much grease you put in. the more grease you put in the front and rear diff the more 4wd action you will get. I coated my front an rear bevel gears. Be careful with the ofna grease it is thick like honey, I put a small amount on a paper plate and coathed the bevel gears then I coated my ceter diff. Greased up the ring and pinion, greased up the tranny gears and she was al set to rip. I have done some preety good bashing and all me and my bro inlaw have broken was a wheel. Losi replaced it ASAP.

[Racing t]

thanks capt, cool up-grades 4dmnyc! but what are the benefits of the graphite parts?

[4DMNYC]

Graphite is lighter than alloy and stronger than plastic.

[Racing t]

but weaker than alloy?

[Philly's Finest]

Graphite is very strong but it's also brittle. Aluminum is malleable but offered in different grades. So say the stock chassis was plastic, both graphite (CF) or aluminum would be an upgrade. For bashing you'd want the aluminum since hard impacts & crashs might splinter or crack cf. Planning to race then you'd go with the cf (lighter saves weight) and hopefully you'll be doing more controlled driving in a race.

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Just something for all you guys locking up the center diff...doing that you will probably trash more f/r diffs. You are transferring more load to the front & rear thus making the problem worse. I suspect that is why the center spool that will be out soon is coming with metal gears...to lighten the load.

A better option then locking the center diff is to use the MIP mini-t ball diff. It will even out the power distribution to the front & rear. Running this ball diff does require slight grinding of the end of one of the dogbones but to me its worth it.

Also if you plan on adding grease to the diffs be sure to add it inside the actual f/r diff cases...not just the pinion. Teflon grease works best in the center. Oh and be sure not to grease the actual tranny gears (those on the top). While you got the diffs open you may also want to shim the pinion gears with 4 or 8 mm shims. BRP makes a shim kit for RC18t axel shims that works awesome.

@ dkj-M3 - Yeah man, the insanes drop right in.

[Racing t]

ok, so what do I do? grease the center diff or the F/R??

[RespirologyRC]

Don't worry about how much grease your adding to the diff just add the grease. You want to make sure that you are adding a decent amount; so as your truck is moving the diffs will be protected at all times. Lastly if you want your truck to wheelie lock up the center diff and the rear diff, but leave the front diff alone (but do add light grease here). This way your truck will still be able to turn pretty well but will now wheelie.

For those of you that like to rock crawl, lock all the diffs F/C/R . If you don't lock them then your truck will not be able to crawl all that well, the diffs will continously be unloading to one side or the other; or even front to back.

[GTX]

Has anyone put a Mamba BL kit in a MLST yet? I've had my MLST for almost a week now and I can tell I want a little more power ;) I'd run it on the standard 6 cell pack and I'd probably go with the 6800 or the 8000 motor.


I heard the hexes are the weak points, is this true? What else is weak?

Oh, and here's a quick pic of mine from my phone:


http://pictures.sprintpcs.com/i/101829529093_3300.jpg

[YZ167]

I just opened my Mini Lst that my girlfriend got me today. I can't wait to run it. I'll see ya guys around.....Sweeeet!

[Racing t]

How do I lock the center and rear diffs? adding a lot of grease??

[dkj-M3]

Philly's Finest , thx, got'em & they are supa fast for brushed motors.

[RAMTech-RC]

I added the AON Electric 4900 brushless to mine. The center diff lasted around 3 minutes. I even had the soft start on the mamba set to 60%. I think the wheelie is what killed it.

http://ramtech-rc.com/MLST6.JPG

MLST movie with Aon Brushless (http://www.ramtech-rc.com/MLST-low.wmv)

I hope I get my replacement gears in the next few days.

[Racing t]

I am very frustrated right now! what is the proper way to fill MLST shocks? I filled and the shaft dosent move so I open the bledding hole and make the shafth go like to the half, screw again and then the shock stay botomed out when the truck land from a jump. I am using 20w

[teampeter]

Hmmmm...I can't tell the prob right now, but did you follow Losi's instructions? Make sure there is no binding? Install the shock right!? I dunno...try-
1. take the spring perch and spring off
2. unscrew the shock cartridge
3. dump out the oil and fill the shock w/ new oil up to bottom of threads
4. position shaft in the middle of cartridge and install, but don't tighten all the way, just tight enough using hands. Wipe away the oil that bleeds out, it will get messy.
5. unscrew bleeder screw, and pull pistion out then push all the way in, do this over a garbage can
6. re-install bleeder screw, tighten cartridge, and check for hydraulic lock
7. rebleed if needed
8. take a sip of Coke (best drink in the world) and do the rest

If this doesn't work, there may be something wrong.
Ciao

Pete

[RespirologyRC]

if you want to lock your diffs just put crazy glue in the diff cases, but once you do this you'll never be able to go back to the diffs normal action.

[Racing t]

thanks pete I will try that.

[wrecked]

the day i got my mini lst (christmass) i blew out the center diff after like 4 or 5 packs. so today i called losi and within 30 seconds i got them to send me brand new revised f/m/r diffs and some revised wheel hex's.
Jason

[schenck77]

just got my package from them today. Tires, hexes and diff gears. I dont know if the gears are any different but it was nice of them to send the gears especially since I didnt even ask for them (but since calling them 2 weeks ago) it has blown so I hope they are better.

[Racing t]

I can see losi is making an awesome job standing behind there product.

[4DMNYC]

And they should, by the time spring comes and race season is in full swing, this mlst is gonna be the mini to beat. I can't wait to race mine:)

[wrecked]

And they should, by the time spring comes and race season is in full swing, this mlst is gonna be the mini to beat. I can't wait to race mine:)

naaaaaaaaaaaaa. i think the 18t is still going 2 be the mini truck to beat b/c it has a much lower center of gravity and is lighter and really manuverable not to mention much faster in stock form.
is it possible 2 put 2 mambas in the mini lst? i was wondering if u could use 1 speed control.

[RAMTech-RC]

I got my gears yesterday, and its beenb holding up with an AON brushless and 2 cell pack. Around 30 minutes of run time now. I haven't tried the 3S pack yet, I'm waiting for an MIP center diff kit.

[wrecked]

I got my gears yesterday, and its beenb holding up with an AON brushless and 2 cell pack. Around 30 minutes of run time now. I haven't tried the 3S pack yet, I'm waiting for an MIP center diff kit.

can u post a link tp the center diff? thanks

[new2radiocars]

OK guys, we opened our mini on Xmas. My son and I ran 4 packs through it so far. We went out of town for 4 days after that so didn't get to play much. Anyway, hope to run the heck out of it this weekend. No problems yet to report. The right front tie rod popped off once, but I got it right back on, no biggie. We really like it. We ran it in some hard packed sand doing donuts and such. So now it is caked with sand everywhere on teh undercarraige. I'm going to blow all that off with my air compressor Saturday before we run it again. Run time has been about 10 minutes each pack. It that about right?

Now, no probs with the diffs or the hexes yet. Should I do some preventative maintenance by oiling the diffs? We're just playing with this truck, not anything too rough and not racing, so I want to make it last for my son without breaking since I don't want to have to keep fixing it. So I don't care about making this one faster or locking up the diffs to get better 4wd like I have been reading about. I'm concerned about NOT having to keep working on it and keeping in running for my son trouble free. He's young, so he'll love it in stock form.

SO, leave the diffs alone or add oil to make them last longer? If so, what weight oil should I add and how big a job is this? THANKS GUYS!!!

[Racing t]

I think 10 minutes is a little low. Im getting 20 minutes of run time in stock form.

[4DMNYC]

OK guys, we opened our mini on Xmas. My son and I ran 4 packs through it so far. We went out of town for 4 days after that so didn't get to play much. Anyway, hope to run the heck out of it this weekend. No problems yet to report. The right front tie rod popped off once, but I got it right back on, no biggie. We really like it. We ran it in some hard packed sand doing donuts and such. So now it is caked with sand everywhere on teh undercarraige. I'm going to blow all that off with my air compressor Saturday before we run it again. Run time has been about 10 minutes each pack. It that about right?

Now, no probs with the diffs or the hexes yet. Should I do some preventative maintenance by oiling the diffs? We're just playing with this truck, not anything too rough and not racing, so I want to make it last for my son without breaking since I don't want to have to keep fixing it. So I don't care about making this one faster or locking up the diffs to get better 4wd like I have been reading about. I'm concerned about NOT having to keep working on it and keeping in running for my son trouble free. He's young, so he'll love it in stock form.

SO, leave the diffs alone or add oil to make them last longer? If so, what weight oil should I add and how big a job is this? THANKS GUYS!!!


For what you guys are doing, I wouldn't worry about putting oil in the diffs. I'd wait untill they start to act up on you, then when you do a rebuild you can put some oil/grease in there. If anything, just get some replacement parts and keep them on hand, so when something dose break,(hexes, rims, arms, shock towers) you'll have the parts right there.

[new2radiocars]

20 minutes would be much better. I'm told that the batts will be better after they have been charged and used a few times. So, possibly I will start to get longer times. My superbrain charger has a default setting at 3 (amps)? While it charges. The batteries say it chould be 2. I have figured out how to change it to 2, no big deal. My question is should I listen to the charger paperwork that says 3 is the ideal setting to charge or the batts papers that say 2 is ideal? Also, does it actually matter?

[dkj-M3]

charge at 1 amp, the higher the amperage you charge at the more punch you'll get out the battery, but you'll have less run time.

[smileyboy]

I AM GOING TO BUY A LST MINI. MY LOCAL Hobbyshop. Does races on the weekends, We can use whatever tires we want. It is a high bite carpet track that is set up for jumps. As you can imagen, the stock tires make the truck roll. Can you all recommend any tires that would perform better?
thanks

[Racing t]

pro-line help please!!!! :D

[QUAKE&SHAKE]

Didnt see it mentioned here.
For those who dont know.
LOSI has an "update package" with new hexes and re-designed f/c/r gears call them and get it.

Basically just say "Im callng for the mini-lst update package and they hook you up. Very easy GREAT SERVICE.

[wrecked]

Didnt see it mentioned here.
For those who dont know.
LOSI has an "update package" with new hexes and re-designed f/c/r gears call them and get it.

Basically just say "Im callng for the mini-lst update package and they hook you up. Very easy GREAT SERVICE.

yeah, i got the package 2day, but all the gears look the same. im kinda pissed because i cant fix my truck yet. i thought with the gears they would include the metal pins that the gears go onto but it dident and the old pins got destroyed in my center diff :mad: :mad: so now i have2 call them back up and c if they will even give me these parts and if they do i still gotta wait forum.

[Philly's Finest]

Yeah I'd highly recommend that anybody who has bought a truck up to this point get that upgrade package. The pinion gears are beefier and the kit comes with grease.

Losi ins't even certain that they're going with the center spool because they don't like the stress it puts on the diffs. Just a heads up for everybody rushing to lock their center.

new2radiocars - If you don't want to worry about alot of fixing in the future, I'd get that diff upgrade kit. Just call Losi and ask them to send it to you.

smileyboy - Losi is working on some tire options. Tire & wheel options (http://www.the-rc-zone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6865) They aren't out yet but should be soon. Those ATX look nice.

[Kden46]

I AM GOING TO BUY A LST MINI. MY LOCAL Hobbyshop. Does races on the weekends, We can use whatever tires we want. It is a high bite carpet track that is set up for jumps. As you can imagen, the stock tires make the truck roll. Can you all recommend any tires that would perform better?
thanks


For the stock axles, some guys have used MiniZilla rims with Mini Quake pin tires on the MLST.

Another option would be to get the Country Alloy Works Wheel adapter kit.
It comes with extended axles and 12mm hexes, that will allow you to use HPI MT wheels and any 2.2" truck tire. You could also use HPI Super Nitro wheels with 2.2" buggy rear tires.

Also if you use just the CAW extended axles you may be able to fit 2.2" rear buggy wheels right onto the axle and pin.

You can find the CAW stuff on ebay.

I use MT wheels but went with a Half8 sedan wheel adapter. But with the stock axle the wheel nut is not able to go completely on the axle with this setup, so I'll be getting the CAW set up soon!

[new2radiocars]

Happy New Year! Yesterday was great, I had a blast with my son and our new Mini LSTs. Yes, LSTs. I went out and bought a second one...for me! His is green and mine is that totally cool blue. Anyway, it rained here most of the day so I didn't want to take them outside, but an empty 2 car garage works great. A little tight for going too fast, but the garage floor is super smooth so it was fun for spinouts and such. I built a cardboard ramp about 9 inches high and the trucks did great. We jumped at about 1/2 top speed which is fast for a garage with limited space. As soon as I hit the ground I had to touch reverse for a second to stop before running into a wall. It worked good. We still ran into the walls a few dozen times and the closed garage door too. Knocked off those 'pop on style' steering arms about 7-8 times, but they popped right back on. I should probably get extras of those, eh? Do they make a replacement that won't pop off? Anyway, we also layed out some 3/4 inch plywood squares I had, about 10 one-inch dowels and two tennis raquets as an obstacle course. It was really fun. Since we weren't always full blast because of the tight quarters, the batts lasted about 30 minutes each! I bought an extra 1200 mili batt from my LHS (new old guy learning the lingo, cool, eh?) so we had 3 batts to use. We ran two batts through his, and three through mine. It finally dried up some in the afternoon and I ran one more through mine outside on the sidewalk. Brought the ramp out there and really hit it full blast. Bashed the truck around some, but had a blast. My body is a bit scuffed now, but so what. Nothing broke for real. Amen. I had to use the grass to bring the truck back to me about 20 yards after each run and the MLST burned right through it. Of course the grass slowed it down a bit, but not much. Batt lasted about 15 minutes outside. Anyway, that was my last day of 2005. Could have been worse! First day of '06... gotta run a couple packs through the trucks with my son and take then take son and daughter to see the new HP movie. Later guys, thanks for the help/tips.

[burnedup]

Im running the insane motor setup with a dynamite two cell lipo with the mini t ball differential locked in the center diff, while I have had no trouble with stripping diff gears, the wire insulation leading from esc to the motors is melting and in one case melted the body where it contacted. These are all mlst upgrades from horizon. Just wondering if anyone else is having similar problems if so what was the fix

[pushnf8]

I just got my MIP ball diff. I am planning on putting it in as soon as my updated package from LOSI gets here. I have a few basic questions about the assembly. I heard the ball diff has to go in a certain way? Which way? Also, I've heard it will require slight sanding of the dog bones to fit properly? I also read that there is excess play in the ball cups and causes wear. Is there a fix to this yet? This is my first r/c that didnt come from wally-world or radioshack so I am fairly oblivious to the basic knowledge. There is a lot of info on the boards but most of it is jiberish to me. My brother in law has an rc10 Gt he just got as well. His runs, where as mine has spent 2 weeks in about a thousand pieces. I did cut his front springs down to fit my MLST though. A lot stiffer than stock. My front end was sagging and never came back up after being pushed down. Fixed now. Im awaiting the CAW axle kit as well. I'll be busy when it all comes in. Thanks again.

[burnedup]

I also put in the ball diff unless I got luck and got it right the first time it does not matter which way it goes. I had also heard about problems with the length of dogbones, but I measured every dimension of the ball diff and it is exactley the same as stock. when installed I had plently of free play at the ends of the dogbones

[pushnf8]

Which ball diff did you use? I heard MIp and Team Losi ones are the best. I heard 3 racing(?) doesnt fit? I wasnt sure if it really matters or not. Mine came with other parts, not sure of the brand off the top of my head but I hope it works. There are some cheap ones on ebay but I dont know if they will work. Will they ALL fit? Anyone know for sure? I am ordering one for my buddies car and dont want to buy him a useless one. I cant find any TL or MIP's still in stock.

[burnedup]

the team losi one for the mini t

[t9dragon]

I did cut his front springs down to fit my MLST though. A lot stiffer than stock. My front end was sagging and never came back up after being pushed down. Fixed now.

Sounds like you need to rebuild your shocks.

[pushnf8]

I changed out the shock oil at the same time. All four shocks had very little fluid in them. I replaced it with 35w oil. 3 of the 4 shocks had very thin layer of plastic over the bleeder holes (on the inside of the shock body). It took me a min. to figure out why I couldn't bleed them. I put a needle down the holes and then it worked great. I cant tell if anything was an upgrade yet because it is still in a thousand pieces.

[smileyboy]

What's the cheapest place to buy a LST Mini?

[GTX]

ebay


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/gtxracer/Misc/101829529093_3300.jpg

[t9dragon]

Nice picture, GTX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[schenck77]

ultimatehobbies has them for a new years sale at $169

[Philly's Finest]

The MIP is a bit different from the losi ball diff. Its a better design because it doesn't have the lock ring. I beleive if its "backwards" it will loosen up. You want to run it with the lock nut facing towards the rear.

If you install it with the nut facing rear, you will have to sand off a bit of the rear drive shaft dogbone. Its really easy since the metal is so soft. I ended up doing the front bone also. I think I'm going to order in a spare set of dogbones.

http://img382.imageshack.us/img382/9134/mlst19od.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[t9dragon]

Hey Philly's Finest,

What tie rods are you using?

[Racing t]

yeah very nice truck, what springs are those in the front?

[new2radiocars]

Yes, my tie rods keep popping off. They pop bac on but this is getting kinda old, almost every other jump now. Any updates or better ideas on the market for that? Just ordered the update kit from LOSI, very nice to me. No problems there. He told me that they look the same but they are redesigned inside. Hopefully so. Tie-Rods that don't pop off all the time...where to get?

[teampeter]

You could just use a plastic bag in the ball cup to tighten it up. Here:
--O <Ball Cup
__ <peice of plastic bag or garbage bag
0 <Ball stud
!

And put all together. I had used this for my Mini-T, it works.
Ciao

Pete

[Philly's Finest]

Thanks for the compliments.

Those are lunsford punisher series turnbuckles. Fronts are 1 1/4". Rear should use a 1 3/8" but I used a 1 5/8" because I got them off ebay from the same seller and he didn't have the 3/8". The 5/8" works fine just eats up more ballcup. Ballcups are rpm longs cut down to size.

To run real turnbuckles you'll need real ballstuds. I used the losi short neck ballstuds. You'll need 2 packs unless you have extra ballstuds lying around like me. They come 4 in a pack along with ballcups. Part #LOSA6008 for the shorties. They will tap pretty easy by themselves you just gotta take your time on the knuckles. I used a hpi hex key to screw them in so drilling would probably be overkill.

Anyways no popping for me and they're probably the strongest metal on the truck, lol.

Springs are losi tc springs. They're just a temp thing until I can get to the lhs. You can use losi front buggy springs (2") as a replacement. They're about the same size. Or you can also use hpi rally springs. Saw I guy on another forum that had bolted up some 65mm tc shocks. He said they're a tad shorter running them on the lower hole. I sized the stock shocks up to my tc shocks and they seemed to short for me.

[metalry101]

Just picked up one of these bad boys yesterday and I've already got a major problem. I swapped to Deans plugs since that's what all of my other batteries run (including the packs I have for my two Mini-T's), and ever since I have MAJOR glitching. When I use my IB1200's instead of the stock pack, it's much better, but I still get it a little bit. I'm thinking that the Insane motors (no stock for me :)) pull too many amps, and now that the ESC can pull that energy from the packs w/o the connectors strangling the battery, the stock battery can't handle it and the voltage plummets, causing the throttle to stutter like mad and the steering to go a little crazy. What do you guys think? Has anyone else had this problem? I run Deans on both of my Mini-T's, and both run hot motors w/ tall gearing, and the stock packs don't have any problems there. I get a little glitching, but that's normal w/ Mini-T electronics.

[fantomas]

Im running the same set up as you.. deans plugs and all, but Im running with a 2 cell lipo and I havent had a single glitch so you might be on to something there..

I would suggest mounting a lipo and forget about it. also the extra power you will see is SWEET :D

[bubba64]

Hey guys i am new here to this forum but i got a mini LST for x-mas and just put two new insane motors in it. Will i need to do anything else to it? I don't plan on bashing it terribly, just messing with it around the house. This is just for fun, i race nitro trucks in the summer so this is just something to do in the winter. Do i need a more powerful battery pack to run those motors or will the stock one work just with less run time? Anyway, any help would be appreciated for i am new to this electric stuff. BUBBA

[wrecked]

the stock esc is fine to run with a 2 cell lipo? wat lippo pack are you running fantomas?

[mud 4 me]

i dont have one but my friend would like to know if he can get any al. parts yet.

Thanks

[burnedup]

I know you already heard this from me, but I'm using a dynamite 2 cell with the insane motors and it melted the wires from the battery to the esc. I fixed this by soldering post on the esc board and using deans wire and plugs for everything

[burnedup]

anyone know what causes all the gear noise. if so how can it be fixed.

[new2radiocars]

Goofing off with the new Mini LST



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[Fat Old-Guy]

anyone know what causes all the gear noise. if so how can it be fixed.

If you're running the original gears, probably poor fit. Losi has an upgrade kit available for free... just give them a call at 1-888-899-5674 and provide a mailing address

[new2radiocars]

Oh well, it didn't work. I had a short video of the truck doing a small jump. Kinda cool. Sorry it didn't work.

[burnedup]

Thanks for the info Fat Old-Guy. As usual excellent service from horizon.

[Racing t]

does any body knows if losi send the parts to the internacional?

[4wdmt]

Racing t. They do send internationally. Few owners here in Canada called losi for the defective parts and they send the repair kit without any shipping charge.

[Racing t]

thats good news 4wdmt! thanks

[Monsterbrad]

For you guys that are running the truck STOCK????
How is it?
Power?
Handleing?
all around power???

[t9dragon]

For you guys that are running the truck STOCK????
How is it?
Power?
Handleing?
all around power???

IMO, it runs great. I had a problem the tie rods popping of on jumps. Otherwise an awesome truck. :D :D

[floaterr]

For those who have yet to get the the upgrade or want to know what you get goto the below website and check out the scanned image of the upgrade. Note they actually send you gears for the front, center, and rear diff (I just didn't scan both packs of end diffs)

www.mini-lst.floaterr.com


Theres also pictures of what happened to the rear pinion.

FYI:
The new pinion gear has an added lip in the rear (opposite side of the teeth) to push it further into the ring gear.
Also hex shaped part of the hubs are thicker so they go deeper into the socket on the rim..

[pushnf8]

Got body painted, axles on, new wheels/tires, updated diffs, and MIP ball diff. Just waiting on new turnbuckles. Got the insane motors too (for now!). Im running the HPI wheels with there M compound tires. They are the same hieght as stock tires just slightly narrower. Handle great though. I also have a set of proline dirt paws too, but the wheels are extremly offstet and dont look right. Now I'm on a hunt for some decent rims. Probally reuse dirt paws they seem to be a good bashing tire and are decent size on the truck.

[brushless_4ever]

Is anyone running a Kokam Cell Pro 2000 mah 3 cell Li-Po? If so, how did you get it to fit? This thing is huge.

[new2radiocars]

Too cool guys, I added a bunch of blue anodized aluminum parts. Upper and lower arms, spindles, alum and carbon fiber shock towers, and skid plates. It looks really cool. I would like to post a couple of pics and get some feedback. Can somebody tell me how to post a couple of pics as the site wont let me. Thanks.

[RAMTech-RC]

You should blue loctite your axle nuts once you start running the new hexes. Mine were constantly loose.

[LasagnaCat]

Anyone know what would be required to change over to 1/10 TC foam tires? Different hex adapter I assume, but which one..? Any anything else?

[brushless_4ever]

Yes. You would need these:

http://www.killerhobbies.com/Browse_Item_Details.asp/Item_ID/451182/categ_id/120/parent_ids/0,90,91,120/Name/Hot_Racing_110_wheel_conversion_hub_-_Mini-LST_-_MLT10M08_

[t9dragon]

Yes. You would need these:

http://www.killerhobbies.com/Browse_Item_Details.asp/Item_ID/451182/categ_id/120/parent_ids/0,90,91,120/Name/Hot_Racing_110_wheel_conversion_hub_-_Mini-LST_-_MLT10M08_


Thanks for the link I was wondering the same thing............ :D :D :D

[LasagnaCat]

Perfect, and thanks!

[brushless_4ever]

No problem. We are adding tons of Mini-LST hop-ups all the time.

[Racing t]

hey guys, any of you have used the dynamite li-po pack?

[new2radiocars]

would love to post a couple pics of my mini lst with the new aluminim arms and stuff. can some one tell me how? It's not working for me. thanks

[Racing t]

meabe is that your pics are too large try to rezise them into a smaller size and try again

[constantmotion]

I notice the other day at the track that I couldn't change the frequency on the receiver but I could on the transmitter. Just wondering if anyone knew what could be wrong.

[burnedup]

yea turn it off and the on as soon as you turn it on change the Frequency. If you wait even 5 seconds it wont change.

[burnedup]

I used the dynamite lipo pack the performance was noticably better. If used, go to deans connectors I melted the wires going to the esc. Get a voltage cutoff like used for planes, and set the cutoff high. They warn to not run the individual cells below 3 volts apeice only problem is how do you know when one is lower then the other. I ran my cutoff too low so while I had plenty of total voltage one cell was 1.25 volts below the other so now the battery is toast. dynamite told me to send it back to them and they said they would see what they could do with it, but I have not heard anything on it yet.

[Racing t]

but how do I make to that dosent happen with my pack?

[burnedup]

dont know. That was one of the questions I wrote to dynamite.

[Racing t]

thats is kepping me from buying it....

[Racing t]

what is the best mamba system for the MLST?

[Kden46]

what is the best mamba system for the MLST?

It really depends on where you plan on running your truck?

I have seen a MLST with a Mamba 8000kv work extremely well on roadbut not enough torque for off road. And have seen a MLST with a 5400kv work well off road but not much top end for on road.

The 6800kv should be a good balance of speed and torque.

You might want to look into the AON 4900 or Hyperion 5kv or 6kv brushless motors. They are a bigger can size and have better torque range than the smaller mambas.

I run a Hyperion 6kv in my MLST with a 2 cell lipo pack and love it! Very good torque with pretty good top speed with the stock gearing.

[jasonw]

Did I brake a rule or somthing? I dont see any of my questions about the wheel hexes anymore.

[Racing t]

It really depends on where you plan on running your truck?

I have seen a MLST with a Mamba 8000kv work extremely well on roadbut not enough torque for off road. And have seen a MLST with a 5400kv work well off road but not much top end for on road.

The 6800kv should be a good balance of speed and torque.

You might want to look into the AON 4900 or Hyperion 5kv or 6kv brushless motors. They are a bigger can size and have better torque range than the smaller mambas.

I run a Hyperion 6kv in my MLST with a 2 cell lipo pack and love it! Very good torque with pretty good top speed with the stock gearing.


thanks, how is your transmition holding with the brushless set-up? where can I get those motors and what esc are you running? sorry about all the questions I am new to electric.

[mcco4955]

Hey, first post here, but I have a few questions about the mlst.



What was the replacement kit for gears or something I was reading about on earlier pages, and how do you know if you need one.


and more importantly, In my MLST I took some advice and wanted to replace the center diff with the mini T ball diff. The shop was out of losi ball diffs, so I got a trinity, but it seems too long. the dog bones won't fit properly, it's as if they are too long. I called losi and they have no idea. Anyone else had this problem?

[Philly's Finest]

Yes the only ball diffs that will work properly in the mlst are the losi & MIP. All the other mini-t ball diffs have a slightly different design and usually longer cups. Personally I'd recommend the MIP because of its superior design to the losi.

The upgrade kit consist of f/r/c diffs with beefed up pinion gears and a better set of hexes. You only need this kit if you have a truck from the initial release. I've heard on other forums that the updated trucks are now being sold I beleive with a green sticker. At any rate it seems to be a good idea to boil the diff gears if you are going to run anything other then stock motors.

On a side note....what the heck happened to my last post? I saw & answered your question jasonw as well as racing t question about brushless.

[royo racing]

anyone know what causes all the gear noise. if so how can it be fixed.


what causes a noisy gear train? lose tolerances in the gears. what 2 do. grease all gears a bit. grease lubes and takes up some space in the diffs. grease also quiets the diffs down. u gotta open the diffs to lube. also my mlst is makin alot of noise at the pinion to spur gear gap. i've tried to adjust but i get it too tight then it bind. i'll live with it. good luck

[royo racing]

Got body painted, axles on, new wheels/tires, updated diffs, and MIP ball diff. Just waiting on new turnbuckles. Got the insane motors too (for now!). Im running the HPI wheels with there M compound tires. They are the same hieght as stock tires just slightly narrower. Handle great though. I also have a set of proline dirt paws too, but the wheels are extremly offstet and dont look right. Now I'm on a hunt for some decent rims. Probally reuse dirt paws they seem to be a good bashing tire and are decent size on the truck.

did u sell it? think my bro bought it. sketer on ebay

[royo racing]

I notice the other day at the track that I couldn't change the frequency on the receiver but I could on the transmitter. Just wondering if anyone knew what could be wrong.

me too. pissed me off. i wanted to change channel so's i could run my ko helios transmitter on the channel i have in it.i'm gonna call losi. thx

[littlebuddha]

hey guys, i just got my new mini lst. i was playing around with the diffs and the front ones are loose and spin right around in opposite direction. the rear difs make a grinding clicking noise and is very gritty and tight. is this normal and will it loosen out after use? did you guys have the same problem? Also i heard they had updated their latest kits with better diffs and pinion and wheel hexes, how can i tell if i got the updated or the old kits? thanks in advance. any help would be appreciated.

[Kden46]

Racing T you can find the Hyperion brushless at B-P-P (http://www.b-p-p.com/products.php?cat=36)

Great place to deal with!

I have not had any issues with my drivetrain since boiling the diff gears! And I am still running the stock center diff as I have not had any problems with it yet.

I do have a MIP Mini-T ball diff waiting to be put in though! ;)

littlebuddha sounds like your rear diff pinion gear is gone! :eek: So I would think you have one of the older kits? Give Losi a call for an update kit!

And I can say that boiling the gears works! I used to run a Dual Hyperion 6kv brushless setup in my MLST and the boiled gears withstood the abuse!hehehe

I actually ran my truck with a rear boiled diff pinion gear and an unboiled front diff pinion gear, and the rear one held up while the front one got destroyed!hehehe :D

Here's a short video of my Dual Hyperion MLST (http://www.one18th.com/GetGallery8956.htm)

[Philly's Finest]

littlebuddha - Sorry dude but sounds like your pinion is toast. Most mlst owners have the original version with the crap pinions so get that update kit man.

[swowlinc]

Hello everyone. I just bought my mini LST from hobby Works in Laurel and I think its cool. It is completely stock so it does need more speed, but I am very impressed with the quality of it so far. I will call TL today for the upgrade also. Im looking for the fastest 2 motors I can put in this truck and build from there. What suggestion do you guys have for the fastest motor/s so far for this mini.

[littlebuddha]

This SUX! i havent even run the truck and the pinion was broken out of the box. the shocks are also very squeaky. anything else wrong with the car? I had asked the ultimate hobbies guy to ship me a car from the latter shipments with the fixed diffs- but he sent me one from the initial shipment 11/17!! which is probably first batch. i should also probably ask for the wheel hexes upgrades too. anything else i'm missing?

[littlebuddha]

This SUX! i havent even run the truck and the pinion was broken out of the box. the shocks are also very squeaky. anything else wrong with the car? I had asked the ultimate hobbies guy to ship me a car from the latter shipments with the fixed diffs- but he sent me one from the initial shipment 11/17!! which is probably first batch. i should also probably ask for the wheel hexes upgrades too. anything else i'm missing? i'm just wary of all the problems the owners have had- esc fires etc etc, and that was part of the reason why i ordered one so late! i'm so mad :mad: now i have to wait for the updates to arrive.

[t9dragon]

They will send you the updated diffs and wheel hexes.

[swowlinc]

Just ordered mine,also. Kewl!

[Philly's Finest]

The losi tires are out. I'm going down to the lhs later on to have mine ordered in.

[burnedup]

I need some input. I put a 10 turn 540 in my mlst. I had some spare time alright. it is not nearly as fast as it should be.

I used a 25 tooth pinion gear to hold down the torque. Was thinking that I am so overgeared that it is not letting the motor wind out.

Anyone ever heard of this happening?

[Philly's Finest]

You want torque more then top end. Still 10t is pretty low. What batts are you running?

I have a 15t crappy old motor in my truck right now. I haven't really run it yet but will this weekend. If it doesn't totally destroy my drivetrain I need to decide what batts to run.

[burnedup]

Tried stock mlst battery really wasnt pleased, but didnt think I would be. I strapped, wrandgled and finnesed a orion 2400 on it to see if it was the battery.

This is a trinity speed gems pyrite with brand new brushes and a freshly turned com broken in right.

to fit sub Cs I had to wire and solder in about every available space.

totally destroying my drive train was exactly what I had in mind also. I had two extra set of gears and one extra of driveshafts, so I thought if i started out easy I would be ok.

much too my suprise I was more than disappointed in the result.

This motor rips ass in my rustler. I'm running a 14 turn in it and it was killing my insane motor upgrade mlst. Which is what inspired the 540 idea.

[floaterr]

If your buying one of these call ASAP. Their awesome at getting the part to you.
ALSO buy a new antenna tube with it! At least with mine it appears to have been made out of hard plastic instead of flexible..

Kinda p.o. at my LHS (that I normally only get parts from) for not mentioning either of the troubles. I called mine about mid Jan and theyjust got the bulletin. They should have known and ordered them for their stock already...

[burnedup]

One more thing I wanted to balance torque and high speed. I just know from experience that torque is a killer of the mlst right now. I would like alot of torque but, I thought this 540 would just be ridiculous.

My rustler does wheelies whith a 12 tooth pinion (coventional wisdom says run two teeth lower than the turns is crap). I know the 25 is more than twice that and should not expect that much torque but the top speed should be really high and that it is not. Which is why I am searching for an explanatiion.

[burnedup]

If your buying one of these call ASAP. Their awesome at getting the part to you.
ALSO buy a new antenna tube with it! At least with mine it appears to have been made out of hard plastic instead of flexible..

Kinda p.o. at my LHS (that I normally only get parts from) for not mentioning either of the troubles. I called mine about mid Jan and theyjust got the bulletin. They should have known and ordered them for their stock already...


be po if you want but direct it where it should be man! My lhs cant really get the parts I need now or last month there not available. Losi is the goat on this one man. my lhs is just getting some parts as of yesterday. the gears, shocks and wheels which have been my main complaint they still cant get. That said I live in MO and I'm ordering my parts from CA from Losi parts house and am very happy with them. they charge pretty much postal rates for shipping although they could be a little more prompt in shipping their orders.

[floaterr]

Yeah I guess I wasn't really that p.o'd. Just felt they should have a been a little more on the game. Guess it is hard to be searching all the web for possible troubles.

[t9dragon]

I haven't had a problem with the gears or anything else, and I 've been bashing it hard in the garge and street. The local tracks look like ponds because of all the rain we've had in the last month and a half. But I did call Losi to get the updated gears and had them within three days. These trucks aren't meant too take the beating that we give the mt's, buggies and truggies.

[Philly's Finest]

burnedup - What is your the spur & pinion size on your rustler? Maybe the problem is your ratios. Plus isn't the rustler 2wd?

Didn't have a chance to get to my truck today but I did run it very breifly the other nite (backwards because I mounted the motor wrong, lol) and it was scooting like a beast with just light throttle blips. At that time I was running a 72 spur & 28 pinion which is similar gearing to a stock spur & 22t. If I can work the bugs worked and get the drivetrain to hold up I'll get a gm v12, a p2k2 or 19t, and run 10 Ib cells (6 under chassis) to save weight. That setup would have to have more balls then any 300 sized brushless.

[littlebuddha]

hey guys, the mini lst seems to be having lots of problems... i'm feeling bored so i just made a list of all the ones i've heard and read about.

1. differentials/drivetrain- can get upgrade kit

2. Sloppy steering- some people have noticed this- maybe this is true after some use.

3. Dogbones wearing out the out-drives- more than a few people have reported this

4.ESC fire- due to connectors- with stock gear (people reccomend changing it to deans but shouldnt losi have dont that in the first place?

5. bad wheel hexes resulting in cracked rims- fixed with updated hexes

6. Squeaky Shocks- that need topping off.

7. I've noticed some pretty deep scratches in the underside of the body, which show on the other side- luckily most are covered with stickers. anyone else had the same thing?

8. Lack of Grease in the gears/diffs- drivetrain- updated pack includes grease- but comon- even duratrax nicely lubricates their gears and diffs.

9. fragile antenna tube

Whether you have one problem or another seems all down to luck- i'm not all that impressed with the quality control. Most people just say to top off the shocks- or replace the gears, connectors etc etc, granted some issues are minor- but losi...WHY DID I BUY A RTR IF I HAVE TO OPEN UP THE DRIVETRAIN AND FIX THE GEARS etc BEFORE I CAN RELIABLY RUN THE TRUCK?!

anyways, hope this is helpful for anyone new to the truck, is there anything else?

[burnedup]

plilly's finest-yea the rustler is 2wd but, its also 1/10 and weighs quite a bit more. The ratio on my rustler is like a 6 where as with the stock spur and 25 tooth pion that would be like a 2. so Today I put a 12 pinion on it to see if things would change. No luck.

frustrated with that I put a 15 turn motor in with the 12 tooth pinion still no luck.

Broke open a sub c stick pack and wire and soldered untill it fit.
No luck!

Close to giving up. Not having fun anymore.

By the way. Dont feel bad. Mine ran backwards too first time. I though that if you reversed the trans. then you would have to make the motor run backwards. I was wrong.

[Racing t]

Racing T you can find the Hyperion brushless at B-P-P (http://www.b-p-p.com/products.php?cat=36)

Great place to deal with!

I have not had any issues with my drivetrain since boiling the diff gears! And I am still running the stock center diff as I have not had any problems with it yet.

I do have a MIP Mini-T ball diff waiting to be put in though! ;)

littlebuddha sounds like your rear diff pinion gear is gone! :eek: So I would think you have one of the older kits? Give Losi a call for an update kit!

And I can say that boiling the gears works! I used to run a Dual Hyperion 6kv brushless setup in my MLST and the boiled gears withstood the abuse!hehehe

I actually ran my truck with a rear boiled diff pinion gear and an unboiled front diff pinion gear, and the rear one held up while the front one got destroyed!hehehe :D

Here's a short video of my Dual Hyperion MLST (http://www.one18th.com/GetGallery8956.htm)

thanks, but what does boiling the gears mean? sorry I am not from the US :confused:

[Philly's Finest]

littlebuddah - The only real problem with the mlst is the drivetrain. All the other things on your list are minor things. Almost all rtr have some issues or things that could be better.

#1,3,8 are all related and stem from the same problem.
#2 - Most rtr have sloppy steering
#4 - Caused by the crappy plug which happens to be an industry standard. Meaning this can and does happen in other micro scale cars not just the mlst.
#5 - Bad mold = bad original batch of hexes. Get the update kit & problem solved.
#6 - Again crappy shocks with to much friction is very common with RTRs. Not everyones shocks squeak and they'll probably still squeak after a top off because the oil is not the problem.
#7,9 - Thats just ridiculus. Paint WILL get scratched & antenna tubes cost a buck if your not happy with how bendable it is.

Sorry bro but I hate when people bash the mlst. Your in the wrong hobby if you have a problem with taking the truck apart for maintance dude.

burnedup - The weight of the two trucks might be closer then you think. The 540 & batts tack on some pounds. Anyway a 6 to 2 is a heck of a difference. Don't know what to tell ya. Are you sure your center & diffs are okay?

Racing t - Boil some water. Pour it into a cup and then throw your gears (especially the pinion gears) in there for a few minutes. There are better directions on this in this thread I think. Boiling allows the nylon to absorb the water making the parts less brittle and overall more durable. Do a search on these forums I'm sure there are plenty of threads about boiling stock parts.

[metalry101]

hey guys, the mini lst seems to be having lots of problems... i'm feeling bored so i just made a list of all the ones i've heard and read about.

1. differentials/drivetrain- can get upgrade kit

2. Sloppy steering- some people have noticed this- maybe this is true after some use.

3. Dogbones wearing out the out-drives- more than a few people have reported this

4.ESC fire- due to connectors- with stock gear (people reccomend changing it to deans but shouldnt losi have dont that in the first place?

5. bad wheel hexes resulting in cracked rims- fixed with updated hexes

6. Squeaky Shocks- that need topping off.

7. I've noticed some pretty deep scratches in the underside of the body, which show on the other side- luckily most are covered with stickers. anyone else had the same thing?

8. Lack of Grease in the gears/diffs- drivetrain- updated pack includes grease- but comon- even duratrax nicely lubricates their gears and diffs.

9. fragile antenna tube

Whether you have one problem or another seems all down to luck- i'm not all that impressed with the quality control. Most people just say to top off the shocks- or replace the gears, connectors etc etc, granted some issues are minor- but losi...WHY DID I BUY A RTR IF I HAVE TO OPEN UP THE DRIVETRAIN AND FIX THE GEARS etc BEFORE I CAN RELIABLY RUN THE TRUCK?!

anyways, hope this is helpful for anyone new to the truck, is there anything else?

What's with the bitching? Yes, the truck has had some problems, but so does every other truck, and for the price and size, the MLST, despite a few problems, is a rockin' good truck. Show me another 1/18 truck that's as good at such a wide variety of things. The MLST handles well, is somewhat fast and torquey, easy to work on, super cool looking, jumps well, rallies the dirt, etc. Most 1/18's are worthless in the dirt. None of the jump worth a damn...or I guess I should say land worth a damn. Despite the monster truck ground clearance and CG, and relatively narrow track width, the MLST rallies the track with the best of them (especially with the Insane motors that have enough power to burn all four so you can drift the corners). Yes, it definately has had it's issues...the hexes, diffs, and knuckles are all weak points. The worst part about the truck IMO is the center diff. What the hell were they thinking? Overall though, I think they did a great job with the truck...it's a solid package out of the box, and the potential is just amazing. IMO the only other 1/18 with as much ass kicking potential as the MLST is the Mini Inferno.

Anyways...what gearing do you guys run with your Insane motors (for those of you running them)? Right now I'm running 25 tooth pinions on the stock spur, which I assume is the 54 tooth. I've been thinking about swapping to the 50 tooth since torque isn't an issue at all. Does anyone else think that the Insane motors need more revs? They're insanely torquey, and have no problem burning all four tires, even at speed, around corners on the track, but they're not all that fast down the straight. It's not slow at all...it's about even with a stock truck or buggy (maybe a little slower)...but the motors obviously have more than enough power to push much taller gearing. Does anyone know of other pinions that are available, maybe in a 27 or 28 tooth?

Anyways...I'm really happy with the truck so far. It seems like a lot of people are complaining or looking for more...are there other people out there like me, who think that the truck rocks...especially with a couple mods? I haven't had any problems with the drivetrain at all, and I've had the Insane motors in it from the very first battery pack. I'm abusive as hell on the throttle, and I've rallied it around the race track and in the snow and everything, and the drivetrain hasn't given me any trouble at all. The only trouble I've had is a defective reciever...but I bought a new one and haven't had a single hiccup since. No glitching, no nothing..it has worked as well or better than the XS3 that came with my LST since I replaced the Rx. It's been rock solid, and every time I drive it I'm amazed at how well sorted the thing is. It's a bit nose heavy so you've gotta keep it pinned in the air or it'll land smack on the bumper, but other than that, it drives like a dream. Am I the only one with this experience?

[teampeter]

The only problems that I have had are the outdrives grinding down the dogbones to nothing. Other than than that, it has been my dream mini truck. Do the Insanes have adjustable timing? And does anyone know if anybody is going to come out with a new truck body for the MLST?

[Racing t]

if I change to the insane motors, my run time will decrease??

[littlebuddha]

hey, the idea wasnt to bash the truck and start a verbal war with you guys! :rolleyes: I was just listing some potential and real problems (BIG and small) with stock gear of the things that i have read about in the forums here and on other sites. Although i am a bit peeved as i have to open the whole truck off and grease everything etc before i run it to prevent things from wearing out- and as much as i enjoy building kits- its a RTR for gods sakes. I dont expect to be building half the car to run it- and having bought traxxas trucks and even the mini quake i've never had to do this out of the box.(BTW-my rear differentials were broken out of the box- and so were the paint scratches- which are pretty numerous. that being said- i do agree with you that its the best mini car out there yet, and am very happy having run it a little around the house. cant wait for the updated gears and then take this baby outside!

What's with the bitching? Yes, the truck has had some problems, but so does every other truck, and for the price and size, the MLST, despite a few problems, is a rockin' good truck. Show me another 1/18 truck that's as good at such a wide variety of things. The MLST handles well, is somewhat fast and torquey, easy to work on, super cool looking, jumps well, rallies the dirt, etc. Most 1/18's are worthless in the dirt. None of the jump worth a damn...or I guess I should say land worth a damn. Despite the monster truck ground clearance and CG, and relatively narrow track width, the MLST rallies the track with the best of them (especially with the Insane motors that have enough power to burn all four so you can drift the corners). Yes, it definately has had it's issues...the hexes, diffs, and knuckles are all weak points. The worst part about the truck IMO is the center diff. What the hell were they thinking? Overall though, I think they did a great job with the truck...it's a solid package out of the box, and the potential is just amazing. IMO the only other 1/18 with as much ass kicking potential as the MLST is the Mini Inferno.

Anyways...what gearing do you guys run with your Insane motors (for those of you running them)? Right now I'm running 25 tooth pinions on the stock spur, which I assume is the 54 tooth. I've been thinking about swapping to the 50 tooth since torque isn't an issue at all. Does anyone else think that the Insane motors need more revs? They're insanely torquey, and have no problem burning all four tires, even at speed, around corners on the track, but they're not all that fast down the straight. It's not slow at all...it's about even with a stock truck or buggy (maybe a little slower)...but the motors obviously have more than enough power to push much taller gearing. Does anyone know of other pinions that are available, maybe in a 27 or 28 tooth?

Anyways...I'm really happy with the truck so far. It seems like a lot of people are complaining or looking for more...are there other people out there like me, who think that the truck rocks...especially with a couple mods? I haven't had any problems with the drivetrain at all, and I've had the Insane motors in it from the very first battery pack. I'm abusive as hell on the throttle, and I've rallied it around the race track and in the snow and everything, and the drivetrain hasn't given me any trouble at all. The only trouble I've had is a defective reciever...but I bought a new one and haven't had a single hiccup since. No glitching, no nothing..it has worked as well or better than the XS3 that came with my LST since I replaced the Rx. It's been rock solid, and every time I drive it I'm amazed at how well sorted the thing is. It's a bit nose heavy so you've gotta keep it pinned in the air or it'll land smack on the bumper, but other than that, it drives like a dream. Am I the only one with this experience?

[littlebuddha]

just got my update kit! just one question- i have hpi heavy duty grease- should i use that in the diffs and save the white grease included with the kit for the rest of the gears? thanks.

[Philly's Finest]

I've got pretty thick syn grease in my front diff. It creates a little drag but I'm still running the stock gears with no problems. In the rear I used AE green slim and it definitly moves smoother.

At this rate any grease you use is better then no grease.


Racing t - If your looking for a sweet brushed motor setup I've heard incrediable things about the trinity cobalt 18's especially the 14t. A guy who had a AON 49oo brushless in his mlst said 2 of those motors are wicked fast even quicker then the AON.

[metalry101]

Racing t - If your looking for a sweet brushed motor setup I've heard incrediable things about the trinity cobalt 18's especially the 14t. A guy who had a AON 49oo brushless in his mlst said 2 of those motors are wicked fast even quicker then the AON.
I hadn't even heard of those motors until you mentioned them. Those look sweet. Can the stock ESC handle them? If not, what's he running?

[Racing t]

Racing t - If your looking for a sweet brushed motor setup I've heard incrediable things about the trinity cobalt 18's especially the 14t. A guy who had a AON 49oo brushless in his mlst said 2 of those motors are wicked fast even quicker then the AON.


wow that would be cool, but those are full 540 size? And will my run time decrease ?

[Philly's Finest]

No they are the same size as the stock motors and work with the stock esc. Not bad for anyone not ready to go brushless.

[Racing t]

No they are the same size as the stock motors and work with the stock esc. Not bad for anyone not ready to go brushless.

thanks, but what about the run time?

[4DMNYC]

Are there any after market diffs out for this thing yet? I've been searching around but came up with nothing. I'm looking for metal gears.

[Kden46]

Nope still no aftermarket diffs that I have heard of yet.

Racing t you will lose some runtime compared to the stock motors. Not sure how much exactly though.

[Racing t]

oh thats a bad thing, but thanks.

[Philly's Finest]

Its rumored that gpm is making metal pinions. Not sure I beleive that until I see them. More of the gpm stuff should be making its way to the market very soon. GPM is notorious for soft crap alloy so we'll see if they are any good or not.

Last nite I ordered the 3racing shocks. They're coming from hong kong so they'll take a while to get here. I'll let you guys know if they're any good or not.

[NPedeInsanity]

EDIT: Thought this is was the Mini-T forum, sorry.

[swowlinc]

F.Y.I on Ebay http://i16.ebayimg.com/02/i/06/1d/f2/f3_2.JPG 18 available

[t9dragon]

F.Y.I on Ebay http://i16.ebayimg.com/02/i/06/1d/f2/f3_2.JPG 18 available

Do you have a link to the actual auction?

[Philly's Finest]

Here ya go T9.

http://cgi.ebay.com/HOT-RACING-TEAM-LOSI-MINI-T-LST-POWER-UP-54T-STEEL-GEAR_W0QQitemZ6033715204QQcategoryZ44028QQrdZ1QQcm dZViewItem

[t9dragon]

thanks, philly's finest.

[swowlinc]

anybody have anyother good sources for parts?

[Philly's Finest]

Killer Hobbies (http://www.killerhobbies.com/Browse_dept_items.asp/categ_id/91/parent_ids/0,90/Name/Team_Losi_Mini-LST) - They've carry hopups & stock parts.
Stormer Hobbies (http://www.stormerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/searchpn.pl?dterm=mini+lst&dterm3=&pn=&mterm=&oterm=&uterm=&sthumb=on&smode=0)

[magicald]

Quick question for you LST guys...can you use aftermarket servos with the stock receiver? It looks like they use the normal 3 wire plugs. Thanks! Have you guys had any problems with the stock LST radio?? is the range good??

[t9dragon]

Yes, you can use the aftermarket servos.

[magicald]

Thanks T9drag. I'm thinking of upgrading my mini-t with mlst electrics, b/c the mini-t's servo sucks!! and it is a four wire. Do you like the MLST radio???

[t9dragon]

Yeah it is a good radio.

[teampeter]

Anyone know of a process to harden the dogbones? Anybody try United RC's KRYSTAL motors?

Pete

[Racing t]

Thanks T9drag. I'm thinking of upgrading my mini-t with mlst electrics, b/c the mini-t's servo sucks!! and it is a four wire. Do you like the MLST radio???

but you have to remember that the MLST esc is for dual motors.

[QUAKE&SHAKE]

hey guys, the mini lst seems to be having lots of problems... i'm feeling bored so i just made a list of all the ones i've heard and read about.

1. differentials/drivetrain- can get upgrade kit

2. Sloppy steering- some people have noticed this- maybe this is true after some use.

3. Dogbones wearing out the out-drives- more than a few people have reported this

4.ESC fire- due to connectors- with stock gear (people reccomend changing it to deans but shouldnt losi have dont that in the first place?

5. bad wheel hexes resulting in cracked rims- fixed with updated hexes

6. Squeaky Shocks- that need topping off.

7. I've noticed some pretty deep scratches in the underside of the body, which show on the other side- luckily most are covered with stickers. anyone else had the same thing?

8. Lack of Grease in the gears/diffs- drivetrain- updated pack includes grease- but comon- even duratrax nicely lubricates their gears and diffs.

9. fragile antenna tube

anyways, hope this is helpful for anyone new to the truck, is there anything else?

10. Ball-ends pop off often

11. Cheap brittle plastic knuckles.

12. Poor fit between axle and bearing

Im finding that the quality/standards are very low in the 18th scale segment. So if you dont expect much you will be happy.
I on the other hand have higer expectations of what a Losi product and hobby grade rc should be and think this mlst they rushed to get out before xmas.
The only other product that I have owned that was actually worse was a Traxxas Bullet. I have never owned or will buy another Traxas product because of it. Because of this mlst I most likely wont buy another Losi product. For sure not a 1/18 Losi product.

[QUAKE&SHAKE]

littlebuddah -
Sorry bro but I hate when people bash the mlst.

You must be in a bad mood quite often then.

[Philly's Finest]

You must be in a bad mood quite often then.

Legitimate gripes that is one thing but it seems like a lot of soap boxing is done. Some people seem to think that a problem with a specific part is a problem that affects all mlsts.

The quality control on the trucks wasn't great. However it needs to be said that Losi bought these trucks. They did not design them and probably didn't assemble them either. Which explains why the new "upgraded" trucks come with the kit uninstalled.

All in all I think the mini lst is an awesome truck. I've put mine through the paces and it's durable as nails and has enormous potential. All cars have weak spots and some folks just don't have the patience to deal with a truck that is new to the market. If this wasn't the first dual motor truck at this scale then I'd see Losi as neglegent...but it is so I don't mind cutting them some slack.

[RespirologyRC]

Anyone remember the number they used to get their free parts from losi?

[chevyguy]

Looking to get new motors for my MLST. Don't want to go brushless though.
Whats the best brushed motors for this truck? Also, best bang for buck motors? Thanks

[t9dragon]

Here is the number 1-888-899-5674.

[swowlinc]

Looking to get new motors for my MLST. Don't want to go brushless though.
Whats the best brushed motors for this truck? Also, best bang for buck motors? Thanks
I just bought two insane motors and some other stuff off ebay. I'll post about the results after install.

[Philly's Finest]

Looking to get new motors for my MLST. Don't want to go brushless though.
Whats the best brushed motors for this truck? Also, best bang for buck motors? Thanks

The best brushed motors for this truck are the Trinity Cobalt 18 14t motors. Best bang for your buck are probably the Insanes.


On another note, someone has finally made aluminum diff gears. They sold pretty fast but I figured I'd post the link anyway. Metal Diffs on Ebay (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6036403057&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWN%3AIT&rd=1)

[suckfish]

I've got the Insane motors in mine and it's plenty quick and has good speed with the stock gears.. and I'm still runnning the stock gears. Only mod I did was put in the Mini T double slipper.. Great truck jumps like no other Mini out there..

[ZoneOfTheEnders]

since those diffs are locked, woundnt handling suck really bad?

[swowlinc]

Well, while Im still waiting for my mods to get here, I installed L.E.D's ,front and rear, on the truck. its pretty easy to do, I just hooked up 4 leds to the 2 motors, match red & black for forward, and reverse polarity for reverse lights!

[metalry101]

since those diffs are locked, woundnt handling suck really bad?
Beyond suck.

[RespirologyRC]

When I just received my M-lst today and all I can say is SWWWWWWEEEEETttt. I called Losi and asked for the gears. Did you guys know that if you tell them that your tires became broken as a result of the wheel hexes that they will send you 4 new rims/tires glued; pretty sweet.

I'm slightly disappointed though; I purchased 2 K4 UnitedRC 400 race tuned motors, well as it turns out you can't stuff anything larger than a 370 in it. Unless of course someone comes out with a larger motor mount.

[Philly's Finest]

Mod the stock mount. A guy on another forum is running tuned 400 with a mini quake mount. Or just return your motors and buy some nice tuned 370's.

[Philly's Finest]

since those diffs are locked, woundnt handling suck really bad?

Maybe if you ran them in the front. I however bought one for the rear. ;)

[mtucker]

I have been in the market for a new electric RC vehicle for awhile and when I saw the mini LST I knew I had to have one.

I spent hours reading this forum and others. Thanks to everyone that contributed information about differentials, brushless motors, tires, problems.....

I bought the red MLST at the LHS. After I asked if they sold the mini-T ball differential for use as the center dif in the MLST, they remembered they had a fix-it kit for the MLST. The had a large envelope full of the replacement part kits. The kit contains the correct wheel hex "nuts" that the wheels slide on to, the gears for the front, rear, and center diffs, and some white grease. They didn't have the ball diff in.

I left the stock front and rear differntial parts in, but lubed them with the white grease. Does anyone know for sure if the front/rear diff parts that come in the upgrade parts are different than the stock gears? It is obious that the wheel hex nuts are larger and fit snug in the tire, but I can't really tell if the gears are any different.

After I greased up the front and rear, I treated myself to a run up and down the tile in the house. She is reasonably fast for a small vehicle. I am going to wait until I get the ball diff from http://www.eboyztoyz.com before I really give her a work out. I must have got the last two ball diffs because after I got my shipping notice I saw they were out. I also have the red alluminum underside plates, sway bars, King pin tires, and some white dish rims coming.

When I put in the ball diff, do I want to put the 4mm washers that captanabolic mentioned on page 1 of this thread (had a diagram also that I posted below) in at the back, front, and both sides of the center diff (four total) or just put them at the front and center diff (two total)?

Although I am fairly happy witht the speed, I wouldn't mind a little more and since I went brushless on my planes I just can't seem to use a brushed motor anymore.... the lack of maintenance and great efficiency are just too tempting. So I am looking at the Mamba ESC with either the AON 4900 or Hyperion 5000 or 6000. Those seem to be the motors that most say give good torque.
My house has a decent amount of hard to semi-hard dirt around it with lots of steep banks and some granite rocks so I want to make sure I don't turn her into a speed monster without any low end grunt.

Thanks,
Matt

[RespirologyRC]

Cobalt 14

[Philly's Finest]

mtucker - Just read that you ordered 2 ball diffs. You only can use one ball diff on the truck and that is in the center. In the upgrade kit the hexes and the pinion gears are the actual upgraded parts. If you compare your stock pinion gears to those in the kit the ones from the kit should be thicker.

Diff shimming should be done as needed. In other words you will have to judge the space between the drive cups yourself to determine where and how many shims each needs. For example I shimmed my front but did not have to shim the rear.

Any of the 3 motors you have mentioned should keep you happy. Not sure if you ever visit this site but one18th.com (http://www.one18th.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=198) probably has more mlst info in one spot then any other place on the net.

[mtucker]

You only can use one ball diff on the truck and that is in the center. Thanks for the reply Philly's Finest. Yes, I understand about ball diff only fitting the center diff, but since the Losi Ball diffs were so hard to find I thought I would order up an extra in case I blew one out.
It is good to know the upgrade gears are indeed upgraded so when... I mean if I blow those out I might have better luck with the replacements ( I will boil them)

Diff shimming should be done as needed. Roger that. I will look to see how much play each has.

Any of the 3 motors you have mentioned should keep you happy. Right now I am leaning towards the AON and 5000 Hyperion. The AON appears to be backordered everywhere so maybe that settles it.

Thanks again,
Matt

[Racing t]

anybody knows if the mip mini t ball diff fit the mslt?

[rc4x4nut]

Yes the mini t ball diff fit the mlst. You do have to shave a little off one of the drive shafts. I have one in my mlst and also have a losi one for a spare.

[Philly's Finest]

Yeah I love the mip diff in the center.

[mtucker]

My mini LST goodies came in yesterday. I noticed the directions for the Team Losi ball differential (LOSB1125) has directions for both the mini T and the mini LST. It says
"If you are installing the ball differential in a Mini LST, first tighten the differential an additional 1/8 of a turn and install with the diff adjusting screw facing toward the front of the truck. NOTE: Before installing the drivershafts, place an O-ring (included) inside of each outdrive cup".

I didn't find the "included washers", but I think I have something that will work.
I will slide the ball diff in this weekend to see how well it works.

Matt

[RespirologyRC]

I just received my replacement diff gears today :) soo happy!

[littlebuddha]

Just a few question- mtucker- where did you get the diagram? is it included with the upgrade kit? i didnt see any. Also its not clear but do i still need to shim the pinion gears even after getting the updated gear set? the updated gears are a little thicker so i would assume they dont need more shimming. thanks.

Thanks for the reply Philly's Finest. Yes, I understand about ball diff only fitting the center diff, but since the Losi Ball diffs were so hard to find I thought I would order up an extra in case I blew one out.
It is good to know the upgrade gears are indeed upgraded so when... I mean if I blow those out I might have better luck with the replacements ( I will boil them)

Roger that. I will look to see how much play each has.

Right now I am leaning towards the AON and 5000 Hyperion. The AON appears to be backordered everywhere so maybe that settles it.

Thanks again,
Matt

[Philly's Finest]

Just a few question- mtucker- where did you get the diagram? is it included with the upgrade kit? i didnt see any. Also its not clear but do i still need to shim the pinion gears even after getting the updated gear set? the updated gears are a little thicker so i would assume they dont need more shimming. thanks.

Someone posted the diagram in the beginning of the thread. It was posted over at one18th when the first upgrade kits came out but I don't think it has been included in the kits since.

Like I said before whether or not your pinion needs to be shimmed depends on the tolerance of each individual diff. You will have to determine if they need to be shimmed or not. If there is still movement front to back (play) then you will need to shim.

[mtucker]

where did you get the diagram? captanabolic originally posted that shim diagram on page 1 of this thread. I did not get that picture with any of the Losi parts (only on the web).

I installed the Losi ball differential and tightened the screw one eighth turn as the directions said. To see the before and after difference I ran the front end of the truck (stock center diff) up onto my foot so the front tires lifted. The front tires spun and I felt a little push from the rear when I throttled up. After I installed the ball diff, there was a little bit of improvement, but I was expecting more. The front tires still spin like crazy when on my foot and I feel a little more power being transferred to the rear when I throttle up, but I expected the rear tires to push enough to walk it up my foot. I assume tightening the screw on the ball diff will increase the amount of power that goes to the rear (whatever set of tires that have traction) with the ball diff. I will have to try it to find out.

Since I had the truck mostly apart to put the center diff in, I decided to put the red anodized chassis in. It took me a lot longer than I thought to get it apart and back together. The servo removal and especially replacement took the most amount of time. I took pictures before I pulled her apart and that was helpful. One side of the servos goes in above the plate and the other side goes in below the plate. That took some tinkering and review of my pictures to figure out. I am somewhat new to car/truck RC, but I have been doing planes for awhile.
Below are some pictures of her.
Matt

[RespirologyRC]

my understanding of a ball diff is to unload power to the tire that is lose. this way the vehicle doesn't spin out of control. It sounds like your ball diff is working correctly to me. Or am I missing something?

[gatorsogone]

I am running my mini lst with with a mamba comp x and a thunder power 3 cell 11.1 volt pack, other mods include losi ball diff and dual pad mini t slipper, the truck did't really benefit with the ball diff so I switched to the spool it really puts down the power now but if you jump it don't land on throtle cause you will waste the front or rear diff. I also bought mini inferno st wheel hexes and rims and tires, they are a direct fit and they dont' strip. i also bought gears for the front and rear diff off of ebay made by gpm so now the diff gears aren't a issue. and the comp x has plenty of tourqe you just have to gear it correctly, I am running the stock spur and a 18 tooth pinion. the truck will wheelie on demand and has a top speed of 38 mph radar confirmed, probably would break 40 mph with a 20 tooth pinion. look for pre threaded oil filled shocks and ti-ni hinge pins,diff gears,pinion gears and a few other things from losi in the next few weeks. have fun

[swowlinc]

Im back after adding a few mods. I put on CF chassis, adjustable shocks, insane motors, sway bars, and Im waiting for the lipo. It's not THAT much faster though. Could I need to change the motor gear to a lower one like 20 teeth?

[RespirologyRC]

I only added a custom painted body. Although I didn't add tons of stuff it at least looks fast standing still.:)

[mtucker]

I also bought mini inferno st wheel hexes and rims and tires Could you give more details on the mini inferno st wheels and hexes (part numbers, how large the tires are.....).
I am looking for different tires (larger) and I am having a hard time finding the CAW or Hot Raing 1/10 wheel adaptors.

I noticed the slipper clutch wasn't slipping much even though I loosened it a turn when I got it. I went to loosen it more and realized that the clutch was slipping when I turned the nut counterclockwise. I wasn't really loosening the slipper, I was just spinning the clutch. I had to hold the slipper area in the spur gear (pictured) to really loosen it up.
I wonder if the same problem has happened to others and maybe that causes more than a fair share of busted front and rear trannies?

Thanks,
Matt

[gatorsogone]

the wheel hexes are part#102ih19, they are a perect fit for the axles. as for the mini st wheels and tires dont remember the part # but the wheels and tires are a tiny bit bigger than stock, they have super thick plastic and have a different off set so they widen your truck about a 1/2 inch, any shop that sells kyosho parts should be able to get them for you, and they do not strip. also with your slipper issue just instal the mini t dual pad slipper, it has to hard anodized plates, two pads, and a gear that way you can adjust much more precisely how much slip you have, there only about 16.00. if you have any more questions let me know dave

[Racing t]

so what do the ball diff do? If I tigth the screw all the way it woul ve like a locked diff?

[RespirologyRC]

Here's my Mini-lst

[gatorsogone]

if your spur gear slips i got a simple solution. use double sided servo tape cut to fit on both sides of the spur gear.

[mtucker]

so what do the ball diff do? If I tigth the screw all the way it woul ve like a locked diff? That makes sense to me, but I am not sure. So it looks like the Losi ball diff is not a limited slip diff, just a higher quality diff than the original.

Here's my Mini-lst Looks like somone in this forum is an artist. Very nice!

the wheel hexes are part#102ih19 Thanks. I am going to give Driven Productions a week to see if they get their 1/10 adaptors out. I e-mailed them and it sounded like they had them and were just waiting to get them on the website for purchase.

Matt

[gatorsogone]

the ball diffs purpose is to limit slippage and to transfer more power to the wheels that need it. it does a fair job but if you overtighten it, it will pop the snap ring out of the male outdrive. if you want locked go with the spool, it's cheaper and it really puts the power down. also makes the truck punch out of the hole harder almost to hard. the ball diff is cool but it still bleeds off a lot of power like the stock diff.

[Racing t]

so what do you guys reccomend'? I still have my mip ball differential on the bag. But what I want is like wheelies climbing an stuff.. And I have a friend of mine who will love to buyed, so do I sell my mip ball diff and get instead the center spool? the only problem is that I buy from stormer and they still dont have it in stock.

[Philly's Finest]

The losi center spool is not coming out. They said they canelled it. If you want a locked center you'll have to lock it yourself or buy the HotRacing center spool. The ball diff distributes the power to the front & rear more evenly then the stock center. Running the mip a quarter of a turn out is ideal.


mtucker - Don't hold your breath on DP. They have been promising mlst stuff now for 3 months. Everytime somebody emails them they say their stuff will be out within the week and it never happens.

You may want to seriously consider the CAW adapter set. It includes the hex & axel. The longer CAW axels allow you to tighten down the wheel nut properly. Using just a hex adapter from other companys & 1/10 rims...you probably won't have enough thread showing to lock down the nut. You can email Frank from CAW and he'll send you a price if you don't see a set on ebay. http://www.countryalloyworks.com/

[mtucker]

mtucker - Don't hold your breath on DP....... I have read posts mentioning DP would have stuff out for the MLST shortly and I noticed the posts were dated in December.

I e-mailed CAW again. I hate to have to beg a company to sell me something. I am much more clear on exactly what I need now from CAW. All their Ebay mlst auctions are for complete kits (near $180!).

I am going to hopefully get the CAW adapter, some white HPI Super Nitro wheels, and some front/rear Pro-line Dirt Hawgs. I have a Hyperion 5KV motor, Mamba ESC, and Castle Creations USB cable headed from Bishop Power Products.

Matt

[Racing t]

The losi center spool is not coming out. They said they canelled it. If you want a locked center you'll have to lock it yourself or buy the HotRacing center spool. The ball diff distributes the power to the front & rear more evenly then the stock center. Running the mip a quarter of a turn out is ideal.


mtucker - Don't hold your breath on DP. They have been promising mlst stuff now for 3 months. Everytime somebody emails them they say their stuff will be out within the week and it never happens.

You may want to seriously consider the CAW adapter set. It includes the hex & axel. The longer CAW axels allow you to tighten down the wheel nut properly. Using just a hex adapter from other companys & 1/10 rims...you probably won't have enough thread showing to lock down the nut. You can email Frank from CAW and he'll send you a price if you don't see a set on ebay. http://www.countryalloyworks.com/


how can I lock my center diff?

[ZoneOfTheEnders]

jb weld, or thick fluid or putty i think, im not sure

[Philly's Finest]

Or super glue. I run the ball diff but I think I'm gonna try to make a wheelie monster once my Cobalt gets in. I'm gonna pull all the front drive parts and make it 2wd with a locked center. Should be fun.

Matt - sounds like you've got things ironed out. When I go bl I'm going with the 5k hyperion. It's a good choice.

[Racing t]

anybody knows something on the center spool??

[Philly's Finest]

Like I said HotRacing already has a spool out. HR Spool (http://www.killerhobbies.com/Browse_Item_Details.asp/Item_ID/436232/categ_id/120/parent_ids/0,90,91,120/Name/Hot_Racing_Aluminum_center_locked_spool_Mini-LST_-_MLT38X_)

[muck76]

the ball diffs purpose is to limit slippage and to transfer more power to the wheels that need it. it does a fair job but if you overtighten it, it will pop the snap ring out of the male outdrive. if you want locked go with the spool, it's cheaper and it really puts the power down. also makes the truck punch out of the hole harder almost to hard. the ball diff is cool but it still bleeds off a lot of power like the stock diff.

this is why i bought the HR spool. I loosened my slipper but still have blown out 2 pinions.
The stock slipper sucks for adjustment. It is either tight or too loose.
if this continues, then i am going to swap to the RE ball diff.
My only thought on the ball diff is by the time all the torque transfers to the spur it has broken the pinions. With a ball diff it gets the slip a little sooner.

[Qube]

It's times like these that I regret selling the big brother LST, but more than makes up for it when I don't have to clean up so much after it!

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[Racing t]

wow qube!! thats sick!! I will liked so much if there were snow in my country!

btw, there so much snow in the rims that looks like you are running dish wheels lol!!! :p

[mtucker]

Here is a video
http://kahuna.sdsu.edu/~tucker/airplanes/RCgroups/MLST_hyperion_5K_2_26_2006.wmv
of my Mini LST with a Hyperion 5000 KV motor bashing around in the dirt at home. I am still waiting for the original diffs to break! This little truck is tougher than people make it out to be. I did grease the front and rear diffs when I got it.

The setup:
Hyperion 5000KV motor
Castle Creations Mamba 25A ESC
Thunder Power 1900mAH Li-Po
Losi white dish wheels
Losi king pin tires
Losi ball diff (center)
Dynamite red aluminum chassis

I ran the stock setup with the Li-Po battery a few times before I put in the Hyperion brushless motor. She isn’t exactly a sl