Kyosho Inferno GT/GT2

[StevePond]

This is the new generation of Kyosho Rally machine based on the 7.5 chassis and drivetrain. Post away!

http://www.kyoshoamerica.com/web_images/IGT2/31816C6R_4.jpg

[Kmot]

I don't like the street only rubber band lo-pro's. How about an Option wheel/tire package that puts the Rally back into rally? :)

[StevePond]

Yes, the stock tires are low-profile, but If you prefer something diffferent, you can install any tire made to fit a 17mm hub, which includes all "rally game" tires and offroad tires for 1/8 buggies. There's a huge selection of tires available for this already. ;)

[rczoneadmin]

Yea Steve. Carefull with the bling bling low profiles...

Hope you have a happy holiday.

Besides I have STIs for lunch. The development of my EVO continues...

Leo

[cucan]

I had a chance to take a look at it in the store (I own several landmax's)and its not a rally car,more a 1/8 touring or rally game.Meaning that as in original LM's you cant take them to the light offroad tracks.

[StevePond]

True - these are built more to the spec of "Rally Game," but that doesn't prevent anyone from installing tires with a more agressive tread.

[SixVi6-Camaro]

IMO the GT will be better on a real off road track than a Landmax. the GT is the same as the 7.5 buggy but with less suspension travel. Heck the GT is only some shocks and shock towers away form being a 7.5 buggy. I actually converted my Landmax 2 to 7.5 buggy arms around the transition time when I could not get Kyosho Parts anywhere. when the Photos of he GT came out I was floored because it looked almsot identical to my buggy armed Lnadmax 2. lol!

[jbl16]

any1 know who is goin to sell these?

[StevePond]

There are a lot of dealers that are carrying them. If you want to let me know there area that you're from, I'll find a local dealer. If you're looking for an online retailer, I can find on of them too.

SixVi6 - I agree. This one has longer arms and is just a couple steps away from being a buggy.

[jbl16]

Im loking for a online retailer atm, preferably one that has parts for it as well.
Thanks

[StevePond]

What area of the US do you live in (if you live in the US)? It would help me to recommend someone that's closer to you to reduce shipping charges.

[jbl16]

I live in Florida, 33029.

[StevePond]

Superior Hobbies and Warrick are two big shops that I can think of in your area that can help you. I'll see if I can look up a few more.

[gomes da dawg]

hi guys how ya all doin...
firstly just gotta say i have had a few rc nitro cars in my past... 2 tamiyas on road 1/8 which i still got, and a kyosho super 8 with a .21.. but when i got my inferno GT bout a month or two ago, i knew i was stepping into a different world lol....
i am very happy with this car and would recommend it to anyone who wants a quick car !! as the usual i am always modding these things gotta few hop ups coming like the buggy conversion kit for it... torsen differentals... and unfortunatley another 2 speed tranny.... or if anyone knows if i could just get the shaft from somewhere??? that would save me some money...... as the gears and that r perfect, just the one way bearing wont grab onto the shaft!!! spewing!!! or if anyone knows if there is a stronger opition to go with??

[SixVi6-Camaro]

the best option would be to loose the 2 speed and pick up a single speed center diff form a 7.5 buggy. Then get a good powerfull top end buggy engine, good 3 shoe clutch, and run a large 17t clutchbell. 2 speeds are overrated and not worth it imo. the 2 speeds gearing on the GT is not made for all that much top speed. Heck the 2nd speed I believe is only a 16/43.. I run an 18/44 single speed center diff on mine with a NovaRossi .28 and it hauls.


Kyosho America can get you that shaft you need. http://www.kyoshoamerica.com/
StevePond can find a local hobby shop that can order up the part for you too as works for Kyosho (and I'm Very jealous of the fact that he does!) If I lived anywhere near Kyosho USA I'd apply for a customer service job there in a heartbeat... but I live in chicago. :(

[gomes da dawg]

hey steve,
i am from australia and wanted to know what u think would be the best way to get couple of parts for my inferno gt.. i have been to my lhs, but all i get is u gotta go online to get that stuff... :( well basically all i want is 2 of the (GTW20-1) shafts for the 2 speed..2 (GT26) one way bearings and 2 sets of the (GTW20-2) spur gears. If u knew somewhere that would have all that that would be great :) postage and price is not a problem just wanna get my hands on these things so i can get back to racing.


thanks mate..

[StevePond]

Contact http://www.dawntrading.com.au/

They are the Kyosho distributor for Australia and should be able to connect you with a retailer that can take care of you. It would be costly for you to get parts from the US, but if you can't find a solution, let me know.

[daakeung]

question, can this run with a revo on flat surface?

[StevePond]

question, can this run with a revo on flat surface?
I'd say it outruns it fairly easily, but it's not really a fair comparison. The Revo is an off-road truck with a small-block and the Inferno GT has a big .28 engine, which is almost twice the displacement. Yes is the short answer, but you're not comparing apples to apples as the saying goes.

[daakeung]

true, but how about
no jumps
flat grass
and just racing ?

Would it keep up?

[Philster]

Steve, looks like the Subaru has been shipping and the BMW is delayed.

Any word on when the BMW will be shipping to dealers? Haven't see one yet.

I'm itching to get back to Kyosho. Me and the boys (from back in the day) always ran Kysoho products, and we are optimistic about Kyosho taking a firmer stance on U.S. soil.

I want my Inferno GT with the BMW body now! :p

[TimJohnson]

Steve, looks like the Subaru has been shipping and the BMW is delayed.

Any word on when the BMW will be shipping to dealers? Haven't see one yet.

I'm itching to get back to Kyosho. Me and the boys (from back in the day) always ran Kysoho products, and we are optimistic about Kyosho taking a firmer stance on U.S. soil.

I want my Inferno GT with the BMW body now! :p

The BMW was release on time. Hobby shops that had them pre ordered received the first batch.

[Philster]

I couldn't wait and grabbed a Subaru-clad Inferno GT. :D

This thing is beefy. Can't wait to break 'er in and get familiar with the suspension and tires/wheels combos. Good thing a decent variety of on-road buggy tires - and wheels - are available from some good manufactures now.

[Philster]

Additional pic

[NMT_RACER_BOY]

Which online shop carries kyosho's at good price now?

[Philster]

http://www.rcplanet.com/kyosho_inferno_gt_subaru_71300_prd1.htm

http://www.hobbyetc.com/cgi-bin/item.cgi?part_id=45916

http://www.hobbytron.com/Kyosho.html

[mook]

i think im right in saying that the wheels are for 17mm hex. Beyond that, what are the other dimensions like diameter and width?

Interested to see if these wheels would fit on a landmax

also do the wheels come pre-coloured or do they need dyed?

[TimJohnson]

i think im right in saying that the wheels are for 17mm hex. Beyond that, what are the other dimensions like diameter and width?

Interested to see if these wheels would fit on a landmax

also do the wheels come pre-coloured or do they need dyed?

Are you talking about the stock Rims?.

The landmax tires and rims are smaller than the inferno gt. I really see no reason why the GT rims would not work. You will have to change the hubs on the landmax.

[Philster]

1/8 scale buggy rims and 1/8 buggy on road tires.

17mm hex.

Buggy rims come in a variety of colors. Specs are available by looking at specific products. Buggy rims and tires vary in dimensions. TowerHobbies tech notes give details,

http://www.rdlogics.com/cgi-bin/category.cgi?item=45217&type=store

http://www.amainhobbies.com/index.php/cPath/26_39

http://www.acehardwarehobbies.com/2.2/catalog/default.php?cPath=57_38_53&osCsid=b93b0d9aebebe895d7324810617dd57c

http://www.acehardwarehobbies.com/2.2/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=57_38_53_427&products_id=10025&osCsid=b93b0d9aebebe895d7324810617dd57c

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXFBV8&P=7

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXHMH5&P=0

http://www.hobbypeople.net/gallery/334430.asp

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXHMH8&P=0

[mook]

Are you talking about the stock Rims?.

The landmax tires and rims are smaller than the inferno gt. I really see no reason why the GT rims would not work. You will have to change the hubs on the landmax.

hi and thanks for the input

i swapped from the standard 19mm hex to 17mm hex to use tarmac 2 wheels

The tarmax 2's are about 4cm wide and about 9.4cm diameter. I think 4cm width is about the biggest for a landmax 2.

i was wondering if the gt wheels/tyres would fit,width wise, without fouling.

thanks

[TimJohnson]

hi and thanks for the input

i swapped from the standard 19mm hex to 17mm hex to use tarmac 2 wheels

The tarmax 2's are about 4cm wide and about 9.4cm diameter. I think 4cm width is about the biggest for a landmax 2.

i was wondering if the gt wheels/tyres would fit,width wise, without fouling.

thanks

No problem. I will get the sizes for you.

[Philster]

Inferno GT tire specs:

Tire Size: (F/R) 3.58 in. x 1.88 in. (91mm x 48mm)

[Philster]

Seems the Inferno GT wheels are shorter and wider, coming in at 4.8cm wide.

OFNA makes a 17mm 1/8 buggy on road set that is:

Width: 1.6" (42mm) Diameter: 4" (102mm)

See the tower hobbies link I posted.

[TimJohnson]

the GT rims should be larger in both width and height compaired to the Landmax

[Bumtdbum]

I couldn't wait and grabbed a Subaru-clad Inferno GT. :D

This thing is beefy. Can't wait to break 'er in and get familiar with the suspension and tires/wheels combos. Good thing a decent variety of on-road buggy tires - and wheels - are available from some good manufactures now.

Hello. I would like to know if you have successfully completed the break process with your Inferno GT. This vehicle is my first pull start and I've been having problems starting the engine. I've been able to run through 2 tanks and starting it appears to be a problem. My greatest fear is breaking the pull start again. I'm new to this hobby and would greatly appreciate any guidance you could provide. Also do you prime the engine or do you follow the instructions of adding 2-3 drops of fuel directly into the carb.
:cool:

[TimJohnson]

Hello. I would like to know if you have successfully completed the break process with your Inferno GT. This vehicle is my first pull start and I've been having problems starting the engine. I've been able to run through 2 tanks and starting it appears to be a problem. My greatest fear is breaking the pull start again. I'm new to this hobby and would greatly appreciate any guidance you could provide. Also do you prime the engine or do you follow the instructions of adding 2-3 drops of fuel directly into the carb.
:cool:

Follow the instructions that were included with the kit. Just remember one thing about the pull start. It is not a lawn mower. Slowly pull the pull start untill you can not pull any further, mark halfway, and never pull it out that far again. Over exteding the unit will cause damage and or breakage.

[Philster]

Starting new engines:

1. Warm up the engine with a blow dryer! This will loosen up the cylinder sleeve and free up the piston. The pull start should move easier now! Very important on newer engines!

2. Prime the engine by covering exhaust with finger and pull starter until fuel enters the carb! Why? Because you are pressurizing the tank, which is how nitro engines get their fuel into the carb. Once running, the exhaust will keep it pressurized (see that line running from pipe to tank?) Make sure the tank lid is down tight...push it down. Inferno tanks are very tight and need a little push to seat it right.

3. Now, Pull the cord again a few times with finger off exhaust to get fuel circulated around the engine.

4 Attached glow starter and try to start w/ short straight pulls.

5. If she does not fire, advance throttle trim a little bit, squeeze trigger and release and try to start again.

The engine will loosen up when you break it in as per the manual, so that starting will get easier! The manual is good explaining how to break in and tune, but most fall short when explaining why new nitro engines are SO TIGHT.

If you have a warm engine, and you pull and feel the starter is easier to move, but then you over prime the engine (too much fuel in carb/engine). the engine will 'hydrolock', and you could lock it so bad that the cord will break if you try too hard. Pull out glow plugplug, and pull the cord with the engine upside down to expel the fuel (don't look at the engine, protect your eyes).

Note: On new engines, some folks will actually turn the glow plug out about 1/2 turn out to relieve compression and spare their starter. Once started, you just tighten it up. This and the blow dryer trick are common tricks on new tight engines to free up the piston and relieve pressure.

I think you need to spend time with someone who has experience. Did you make your purchase at a hobby shop?

Also, search google for: 'nitro tuning', 'starting nitro engines', 'nitro hydrolock', nitro basics, etc. Tons of info here and around the web.

e-mail me for help, too. pleone@transunion.com

You want to avoid mistakes, because they create more headaches, like broken pull cords, burned out glow plugs, dead batteries, etc.

[Philster]

Lots of info, esp at bottom and links on the left.

http://www.rchobbies.org/cars_troubleshooting.htm

[Tim'sLosi]

Man...I cannot express how badly I wish I could get one of those. Just looking at the pics I can picture myself powersliding it on our gravel drive, wheels throwing up roosts of dirt and stone as the engine screams with nitro delight. AAAARRRRGGGGHH!!!

[Philster]

If the weather here in the NE USA doesn't improve, I'm gonna drive south just to bash with it!

My next nice day will be spent trying to get some video of it powersliding around a softball diamond or a packed gravel road up the Pocono mountains in PA.

[josiah]

I managed to pick one of these babies up at the LHS, for US$300, I am in Dubai so the shipping alone normally takes these over the US$400 mark.

They had sold it to a customer who had used it once, not even a half tank of gas, and the one way bearing was tossed! The box looked a bit dmaged, and there was oil in the car so they thought they could not sell it as new, so they gave it to me. When I opened it up, I found the little shaft in the one-way bearing had SHEARED off. The compression on this car is HUGE, I am sure it will drop with some use, but it is a real hard pull to get it going.
It handles well, and I have only done 2 tanks at low speed and fairly rich to run it in, after that, I will rev it up and give some feedback on performance. The body is a LOT bigger than the landmax, and it looks really good....I recomend this, just on the brute sound of the .28 and the handling at mediumspeed. Good car,...

[Philster]

I got through only half a tank at low speed. Tough to start. I have good success using a heat gun or hair dryer to warm and loosen the engine, and she seems to start easier with the throttle open a little bit, so it is kind of tricky right now.

Also, cranking out the plug about 1/4 to 1/2 turns eases the compression, and you can tighten it down after it starts.

A big block motor in a car light this = instant acceleration. You better know where this thing is going before it starts, because even at low speed it runs out of room fast.

I am off from work today, and after some home projects, I will finish break in as much as possible.

[Bumtdbum]

Starting new engines:

1. Warm up the engine with a blow dryer! This will loosen up the cylinder sleeve and free up the piston. The pull start should move easier now! Very important on newer engines!

2. Prime the engine by covering exhaust with finger and pull starter until fuel enters the carb! Why? Because you are pressurizing the tank, which is how nitro engines get their fuel into the carb. Once running, the exhaust will keep it pressurized (see that line running from pipe to tank?) Make sure the tank lid is down tight...push it down. Inferno tanks are very tight and need a little push to seat it right.

3. Now, Pull the cord again a few times with finger off exhaust to get fuel circulated around the engine.

4 Attached glow starter and try to start w/ short straight pulls.

5. If she does not fire, advance throttle trim a little bit, squeeze trigger and release and try to start again.

The engine will loosen up when you break it in as per the manual, so that starting will get easier! The manual is good explaining how to break in and tune, but most fall short when explaining why new nitro engines are SO TIGHT.

If you have a warm engine, and you pull and feel the starter is easier to move, but then you over prime the engine (too much fuel in carb/engine). the engine will 'hydrolock', and you could lock it so bad that the cord will break if you try too hard. Pull out glow plugplug, and pull the cord with the engine upside down to expel the fuel (don't look at the engine, protect your eyes).

Note: On new engines, some folks will actually turn the glow plug out about 1/2 turn out to relieve compression and spare their starter. Once started, you just tighten it up. This and the blow dryer trick are common tricks on new tight engines to free up the piston and relieve pressure.

I think you need to spend time with someone who has experience. Did you make your purchase at a hobby shop?

Also, search google for: 'nitro tuning', 'starting nitro engines', 'nitro hydrolock', nitro basics, etc. Tons of info here and around the web.

e-mail me for help, too. pleone@transunion.com

You want to avoid mistakes, because they create more headaches, like broken pull cords, burned out glow plugs, dead batteries, etc.
Philster, thanks for the detailed response to my question. I had to laugh at "don't look at the engine, protect your eyes." You're right, I do need to spend some time with an experienced nitro R/C hobbyist. I purchased my Inferno GT in Iwakuni, Japan before it even hit the shores of the US (cost less in the US). Right now the only universal language that my hobby store and I understand is Yen:-). Once I get a little more Japanese under my belt I'll be able to interact more at the store and track.

Again, thanks!

[vad]

If you guys are looking for alternate bodies for the Kyosho inferno GT, try the below link....


Delta plastik 1/8 scale rally bodies (http://www.deltaplastik.it/categoria_modellismo_5_pag_1_eng.html)


Some of these you guys will never find in the states.

[TimJohnson]

WOW!! Nice find Vad

[Karadjas]

As far as I can tell those are Mantua Model bodies.
I have the Alfa Romeo, the lexan is very thin at places, decals don't fit... Not quality.
You'll be better off with HongNor bodies

[vad]

As far as I can tell those are Mantua Model bodies.
I have the Alfa Romeo, the lexan is very thin at places, decals don't fit... Not quality.
You'll be better off with HongNor bodies


Do you have any other bodies other than the Alfa? I can say that my Delta Plastik F40, Lancia Stratos, and Jaguar XRS bodies feel the same as my Ofna Mclaren and Celica bodies, which feels the same as my Bergonzoni Alfa body. They all have thin spots at differnt parts of the bodies.

[vad]

Can someone tell me if the Chassis of the new inferno GT the same as the chassis of the mp-7.5, mp-777? I am trying to find out if the 2 speed center diff of the Inferno GT can fit directly into the center diff mount of the mp-7.5.

[Philster]

I think it is.

www.kyoshoamerica.com has all the manuals listed on line if you need to compare.

In both the GT and 7.5 instructions, they are parts # 84 and 85 [and part 149 (X2)]

They didn't even bother making new instructions for the GT. The GT book is the 7.5 instructions. The GT guide even shows the single speed and twin disks it does not have.

From looking at my actual chassis, it is the 7.5 set up. Front and rear suspension height changes, 2-speed trans,and a single disk brake are changes on the GT. The GT even has the holes for the engine mounts and flywheel chassis cutout of the 7.5, even though it uses a slightly different engine setup.

My 2-speed gears have a 1x1.5" rectangle hole that allows them to clear the chassis, but even that is on the 7.5.

You should be fine.

[SixVi6-Camaro]

Actually even though it is a 7.5 buggy the 2 speed form a GT will not be a direct bolt in. Also the 777 and 7.5 chasssis are different. the width of the 2 speed (from bearing to bearing) is larger than the single speed center diff. If you wre to look at the GT side by side with a 7.5 Buggy.. The front center diff uprght on the GT is spaced farther forward and the front driveshaft is shorter as well as the gas tank is moved farther forward to clear the 2 speed's clutchbell. It would work fine if you trust yourself to drill a couple holes in the chassis and countersink them.

[vad]

Thanks for the reply guys... Helps a bunch.

[Jonerick]

I am really interested with the new GT. I have a few questions: Since Tower does not carry the brand, where can I get parts? Any optional parts available like, universal joints, chassis, torsen differentials, or aluminun parts, etc? Thanks in advance

[TimJohnson]

here is a short list of option parts for this car from left to right.

http://www.twistedchaos.net/forums/uploads/post-10-1139858684.gif

IFW150
IFW112
IFW113
IFW123 & IFW124
IFW126BL
IFW127
IFW130 & IFW131 & IFW132
IFW104
IF117 / IFW103 / IFW315
IFW122
IFW142 / IFW114 / IFW125
IFW13 / IFW45
IF107
IF108
IF109
IFW37
39514 & 39516
92511
IFW140
IFW32R, GR, BL, W

[Philster]

I am really interested with the new GT. I have a few questions: Since Tower does not carry the brand, where can I get parts? Any optional parts available like, universal joints, chassis, torsen differentials, or aluminun parts, etc? Thanks in advance

Stormer is well know, respected...massive parts list:

http://www.stormerhobbies.com/

Pretty popular:

www.rcplanet.com/

http://www.lightninghobby.com/kyosho_r_c_18948_ctg_2.htm

http://www.rocousa.com/

[TimJohnson]

Also you can check out these fine shops,

www.rckenon.com
www.ultimatehobbies.com
www.rcnitronation.com

[Philster]

Ooh...missed those. Thanks.

Hey, while we here, let me endorse this car thoroughly. It is a blast.

[TimJohnson]

LOL Im glad you are enjoying this product!! I EnJoy thrashing our demo model when I can :) I can only hope more and more people start racing these.

[SixVi6-Camaro]

I hope people do start racing these. I put some coin into my Landmax 2 and have now gotten it all switched mostly over to GT spec except I still need a body.

[cucan]

I hope it doesnt end up like the original LMs,that people start racing them.

[Philster]

I know it is a modified buggy, but I like trannies that shift, and people like the looks of cars over buggies.

So, ummmm, why would racing be bad? Racing is why this car exists at all (buggy racing heritage). You can bash with it without fear, and if racing develops, that helps the support network, parts chains, etc. They race them out in Cal already.

[Jonerick]

Thanks guys, you're all great.

[ciressarg]

How does it handle? My buddy has an OFNA GTP and it under stiers pretty bad. I have a GT on order, I'm hoping it handles better. My 7.5 handles good
I'm think the GT should be similar.

[Philster]

I would not describe the handling as understeering (aka 'pushing'). Also, it does not oversteer (tail doesn't get loose or come around).

Traction is lost in a nuetral way, with the front and rears giving way to a drift.

Traction is way better than I anticipated. I've driven Schumacher Fusions that were fast, but felt terribly squirrely. Sure this is 1/8, but you'd figure with short gears and a .28 motor she'd feel unstable. Feels planted.

With a .28 engine, I'm actually a little 'richer' than I ever run my Savage or other trucks, because there is no need to get it leaned out to the last degree. It has ample power even at 80-85% tune. Never saw my Trinity fuel smoke so much.

Feels surefooted. Order backup tires immediately. I am waiting for some Medial pros, and will experiment with some OFNA treads or foams (any 1/8 buggy size w/ 17mm hex). OFNA has large selection on variety of rims. Check out Tower.

[ciressarg]

I'm glad to hear that the stiering is neutral. We are starting to get my buddies ofna sorted out. He has orded a lot of different tire combo's to try also. It looks like the kyosho tires are lower profile than the rest. I'm wondering if maybe they will work the best? But I havn't seen them first hand, I'm just judging from the pics I've seen.

[Philster]

Stock tire profile = the thinnest I've seen anywhere. Gives 'low profile' a whole new meaning.

I can only compare handling when I get the new OFNA or Medial Pros, which have alot more sidewall.

Understeering is usually a result of chassis balance: too much weight over the front wheels.

[vad]

Are the GT tires thin like the Ofna slicks (which come with the gtp kit) or made thicker like the Medial Pro tires with a more rigid sidewall?

[Philster]

Thinner than the Ofna slicks. Thinner than anything out there. Each tire I could find, Medial Pro or Ofna were several millimters taller in diameter.

Some tires, lie Duratrax or Pro Line Road Rage, are even thicker (taller in diamter) than the Medials or Ofna slicks.

In size order, it is something like this, smallest to biggest:

smallest....
GT stock tires
Ofna Slicks
Medial Pros
ProLine Road Rage
Ofna Foams
Duratrax on-road buggy tires
...biggest

[ciressarg]

I got one of mine yesterday. This is a used one I bought on ebay. It is fun to drive power slides for days. I bought this one for parts my new one should be here today. It is getting a JP modified v spec and an 086 pipe should be a blast. I think it's going to need some more gearing, it seems a little short even with the stock motor. You don't hear these shift right? My freinds ofna has a different type of 2 speed and you hear it shift. It almost seems like mine isn't shifting. Any thoughts?

[Philster]

Okay - mine does shift. I must be lucky, because....

...RC Car Action mag reviewed the GT this month and theirs shifted almost instantly, basically starting in second gear. You have to take the tranny out and turn the screw that controls the shift clockwise a quarter turn or more. A mild pain in the arse. This will delay the shift.

Under hard throttle, it does shift very early...or basically before the car rolls 10 feet.

I will test mine again tomorrow under hard throttle.

If you hear no shift, you are in 2nd gear from the start (most likely), which is why you need the adjustment.

>> Try this...start very very slowly, and then at very light modest throttle, almost just light cruising, it will probably shift as you accelerate.

But based on the review, you have to take the tranny out/apart and adjust the shift screw. Needs to be tightened to delay the shift.

[ciressarg]

Yes that is the case. I richened the motor up 1/2 a turn then you can here it shifty almost immediately. I read through the instructions and found the fix. I still think it is geared to low especially if it's starting off in second as it is. I'm going to order the optional pinions and start experimenting. the car sure is fun though, it handles a lot better than my friends ofna. I can't wait to get it on a track.

[SixVi6-Camaro]

What is the stock gearing on the GT anyhow? I sure hope its not the dismal top end gearing that was on the landmax 2 2 speed.

[Philster]

Top speed = 42 mph (RC Car Action, May 2006 Review)

That is w/lowest profile tires and short gears.

Final drive ratio is 1st/2nd = 10.9/8.37

[blue4uevo8]

I purchased mine at the end of November, so maybe something has changed but I can adjust the trans using a ball end allen key WITHOUT taking anything apart. There is a hole on the brake \trans upper plate, you just need to turn the trans untill you see the adjustment screw. The guy's at kyosho told me about it.

[Philster]

Sweet! Thanks for the tip. I got my GT in February, and the shop ordered it direct from Kyosho. I'll check it out, in case I need to adjust.

[Philster]

I purchased mine at the end of November, so maybe something has changed but I can adjust the trans using a ball end allen key WITHOUT taking anything apart. There is a hole on the brake \trans upper plate, you just need to turn the trans untill you see the adjustment screw. The guy's at kyosho told me about it.

When I peak down that hole, I see a set screw on the cup (?) that the dogbone goes into...slightly ahead of that, closer to the tranny gears, I see a hole, but only a silver plate/or disk in there. Spinning the tranny doesn't reveal anything. :confused:

???

[SixVi6-Camaro]

Well I'm looking at the instructions for the GT and it shows that you need to remove a spacer (looks like a shock spacer) and slide the gears off the hub and it will reveal the adjustment screw. one screw will be holding the hub onto the shaft.. the other screw at an odd angle is the adjustment screw.

man all this talking about the GT I think I may just pick up a new one and right away install the hop ups from the converted Landmax. I want that 2 speed knowing now that there are actual optional gears for it!

[Philster]

Hmmm....found the steps on-line and printed them. Same set up as my Savage. I have to go back to the manual that came with the car, because I don't think it ever mentioned a 2-speed. Was pretty much a 7.5 manual with supplements about the body and motor.

Thanks SixVi6-Camaro. And yes, gears are the first option I noticed, too. I'll be setting them for more top end. I've got tires coming that are about 10% taller versus stock (and will still fit), plus a taller top gear and she should be up to 50mph.

Someone sent me tpics of the new Calsonic body for this chassis, and that is extra sweet.

[SixVi6-Camaro]

download the GT instructions from Kyosho USA. They are specific for the GT. thats where I got the instructions I'm looking at from.

hmmm.. interesting body. that would be one aerodynamic body to run for sure. I still like the BMW or Suby body though.

[SixVi6-Camaro]

Actually Here is the direct link...

http://www.kyoshoamerica.com/manuals/31812B.pdf

[Philster]

It's threatening rain here in the North East, and I am fresh out of home projects, so I did some tinkering with my RC stuff today. Feel much better knowing I can get that shift improved now.

You're allright, SixVi6-Camaro. You wouldn't happen to work downtown in Chicago, would ya? My company, TransUnion, is headquartered down on Adams, across from Union Station. I get over there every couple of months.

I'd buy you lunch if you were in the neighborhood at the right time.

[SixVi6-Camaro]

Thanks for the offer man. I work in Buffalo Grove for a heart monitoring company called LifeWatch and live in Schaumburg.. all NW suburbs and don't get into the City to much. Funny how that works living soo close to a hub city but rarely ever going there.

[ciressarg]

I've got mine shifting corectly now, it was very easy to adjust. The inst. say to be carful not to over titen the screw as it may cause damage. I moved mine a 1/4 turn at a time until is sounded right. I realy don't think the two speed does any good with the gearing as low as it is. I think second would be a good 1st. even with the stock motor. It's just another way for Kyosho to sell more parts. Larger tire would make a big difference though, Maybe the stock gearing would be more usable. I also tried an ofna 063 pipe and It didn't seem to run any better, so don't waste your money on that. The stock pipe is very similar. Maybe there upgrade pipe is more like an 086 AKA top end pipe. I have one I could try. I'll post results.

[Philster]

You know, with gears that short, we won't actually see any improvement with a different pipe. The gears are underworking the engine --- it hardly feels any significant load. It can get off the line super easy and hit peak RPM super easy. The pipe doesn't need to extract that last 5-10% of the engine's potential.

I'll bet that if we add tallers gears that make the motor work, we could add a pipe and see some bottom end oomph enhanced and help get the RPMs when running in a taller 2nd gear.

That's why monster trucks love tuned pipes: Most of their motors are working their balls off, so the pipe can help out a bit.

Just my 2 cents.

[ciressarg]

Good piont, any increase in torque would be undetectable, what I should have said was that the engine did not rev any better. I will definatley try it again after it's gearing up. I taked with kyosho america. i was asking them about available gears. The manual said 14 17 stock they offer a 15 18 and a 19 tooth but no 16 to go with it. He said you could run a 15 with it but i doubt it would hold up with that much slop. The 19 must be an option for a single speed I would guess.

[vad]

Have you guys considered the Ofna GTP 2 speed clutchbell and screw on gears (14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21 tooth gears)?

[ciressarg]

That's not a bad idea. The ofna has a 3 shoe clutch also.

[SixVi6-Camaro]

how aobut leaving the 2 speed behind and consider running a single speed center diff form a buggy. I run single speed on mine with 17/44 gearing with an OPS .21 (lots of RPM) or 19/44 with a Novarossi .28 (insane torque not as much RPM).. with either setup it still spins the tires hard from a stand still and still has great top end.

[ciressarg]

I know the two speed is not that big of an advantage, but I love that sound.
Also the JP V spec that I'm putting in has a one piece crank clutch shaft for single speed. It just kills me to cut it off, but heck after the engine has a couple of gallons through it it will be worthless anyway.

[vad]

I know the two speed is not that big of an advantage, but I love that sound.
Also the JP V spec that I'm putting in has a one piece crank clutch shaft for single speed. It just kills me to cut it off, but heck after the engine has a couple of gallons through it it will be worthless anyway.


You should still be able to use the JP Vspec with out cutting on the end of the crankshaft. Just use a flywheel nut to hold the flywheel down, and do not use the flywheel nut for standard (Threaded) shafts. JP Vspec If you take care of your engine should run you easily 5+ gallons of fuel at 30% nitro content.

[ciressarg]

I know the engines are good for several gallons. I was just refering to the $ value. The problem is the clutch shaft is not long enough for the two pinions gears. So I would need to cut it off and use the factory nut with double length shaft.

[SixVi6-Camaro]

Pick up this kit from Ofna..

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXNT03&P=7

there is a long silver barrel in the pic that you can use to extend he length of the shaft.

[vad]

how aobut leaving the 2 speed behind and consider running a single speed center diff form a buggy. I run single speed on mine with 17/44 gearing with an OPS .21 (lots of RPM) or 19/44 with a Novarossi .28 (insane torque not as much RPM).. with either setup it still spins the tires hard from a stand still and still has great top end.


With a 2-speed, one can have acceleration and top speed all in one.

[ciressarg]

Thanks SixV16,
That is exactly what I need. Hopefully Ace has one in stock. They are just down the road from me.

[matt_s86]

I've been seriously considering the Inferno GT because i dont have any tracks or overall clean pavement near me. My ol' Nitro RS4 struggles with the gravel and junk. But one thing I'm wondering, how does it handle the road? Can I make it stick if I want to, or is this pretty mucha an all-out drift machine? I'm more a fan of grip...I like on-road. So would this be able to handle anything like its meant to be on pavement?

Thanks,
Matt

[Philster]

Oh, definitely glued down pretty well. The drifting comes from the fact that you choose to drift, if you want. That is why there is a huge .28 motor with short gears. It allows you the option of drifting, by overpowering the wheels with the engine. And drifitng means the car isn't understeering or oversteering. Every car worth a darn can over power its wheel, but watch guys with poor set ups do spin outs. They'd love to overpower and drift as a result.

The car is NOT a drifter - so don't be confused. That is a class in and of itself. Drifting is a nuetral power induced slide. For peak racing, you'd want a touch of oversteer (tail out), but that is not the point here. The point here is fun on non-prepared surfaces.

Here is another thing to consider: It accepts standard 1/8 buggy rims and tires, and there are a good number of options. Ofna alone makes a bunch of treaded rubber, rubber slicks, soft/medium/hard foams and all sorts of rims. ProLine, Duratrax, Medial Pros..etc....tires are out there. Ofna has the selection though. www.ofna.com to see the part #s, and head over to Tower or Nitrohouse to buy them.

I just got firm compound foams from Ofna (via AceHardware Hobby) and from watching some Ofna GTPs (with crappier suspension) handle well, the Inferno should be stuck pretty well.

The car never feels 'squirrely'. Rocks, bumps, grooves...it never bottoms out over typical street and parking lots. It is hard to find a parking lot basher that will handle this well.

I don't usually fall in love with anything I buy. I usually wish I would have gotten something else, etc. With the GT, I got the exact street and lot basher I wanted. First time I actually like what I bought RC wise.

Heck, I broke in it on my lawn, drove on my street, over at the school, on the local track....etc...

[matt_s86]

Well, this is very reassuring. Like I said, I like more on-road type stuff. So I think I'm definately gonna get this. One more thing, is there any word on the release of the Calsonic Z body? Or at least how much do bodies cost for these? If release is close I'll wait. If not, I'll probably go with the Subaru.

Matt

[Philster]

Not sure on the Calsonic release. Keep checking at KyoshoAmerica.com

I think bodies are around 60 bucks, painted, cut and decals on.

Again, www.kyoshoamerica.com has a cust service # posted, they are supposed to be very helpful.

[matt_s86]

Thanks for the quick responses. Hopefully I can buy an Inferno GT soon. I'm sure it will be loads of fun!

Matt

[Philster]

update: Just had some runs with some Ofna foams (hard compound). Really good tires, should hold up well. They offer better ground clearance and just barely clear the wheel well cutouts.


Help: Anyone know if I can get a TigerDrive onto this new GXR .28 motor? I was wondering if anyone knew the engine's rear shaft size and whether Kyosho's new zero maintenance pull start set up (no one-way bearing ) would affect my ability to get a TigerDrive on the engine.

Anyone? :confused:

I was hoping to put in a TigerDrive and this remote access for the glow plug. Then the body can stay on all day.

[ciressarg]

I also tried a set of ofna road tires. They are a lot better than the stock kyosho. My buddy orderd a set of ofna slicks. One of the guys at nitrohouse told him that they work realy well if you soften them up with a little diesel fuel on a brush at the start of the day. I'll report once we have tried it. For you interested in playing with gearing. I've tried the 15 18 pinions and it was a lot better. I also bought the 19 they offer but I have to order an ofna 16t 1st as kyosho dosn't offer one. The threads are the same. The optional 2nd that they offer realy dosn't fit either. They are from another model they make and the inside diameter is about an 1/8'' to big. I had to machine up a spacer to make it work.

[Philster]

This might sound stupid: Swapping out to the 15/18 pinions: The mesh has to be reset a touch, correct? Motor gets moved over a hair since the pinions are larger, right? Use the ol' paper between the gears trick?

[ciressarg]

Yes, you would need to remesh the gears. Paper works good, I just do it by feel. Just make sure when you turn the clutch bell there are no tight spots all the way around.

[Mr M]

I really like kyosho's subara impreza body so i am going to order it from my local kyosho dealer, but i just want to make sure it will fit on my body posts and if the body would be the right hight from the ground so could some one who has the kyosho inferno gt subaru body please measure the hight from the ground up to the hole were the body post goes through, also could you please measure both front and back body post holes.The best way to do this is with the body of the car and on a table.

This would be really really appreciated. :D

[Philster]

Dang. Just read your post at work. Can't measure it for another 8 hours! :p

What chassis are you looking to put the WRX body on???

[slw4red]

I am looking to buy one of these,
does anyone know a place to get spare parts for it in Australia??

Also i am desperate to see one in action, is there any inferno GT video's out there at all???
please if you know of a vid post a link. cheers,

My savage and lst2 need a new mate, i'm holding off until i see one in action.

[Mr M]

Well Philster as soon as you get a chance will you please send a reply with the measurments. I am trying to put it on my Gs SUT tuggy, Just going to order kyosho subaru body, rims and tyres and change my gearing.Oh and what would be the best gearing to go for. thanx

[SixVi6-Camaro]

Put as big a clutchbell as you can on that SUT but even with the largest Clutchbell on there I don't think you will still be abe to get the gearing right with the small tires because SUT's have a different ring and pinion ratio for the large Monster truck tires.

[Philster]

I really like kyosho's subara impreza body so i am going to order it from my local kyosho dealer, but i just want to make sure it will fit on my body posts and if the body would be the right hight from the ground so could some one who has the kyosho inferno gt subaru body please measure the hight from the ground up to the hole were the body post goes through, also could you please measure both front and back body post holes.The best way to do this is with the body of the car and on a table.

This would be really really appreciated. :D

Front holes: 4 1/4 inches from ground when body off chassis.

Rear holes: 5 1/4 inches from ground when body off chassis.

Holes are 5 3/4 inches apart (side to side).

Holes are 16 1/2 inches front to rear apart.

Body is 11" wide (measured across middle)

Wheelbase (that is front to rear measurement of wheel cutouts) is about 13 1/4 "

Outside of wheel well flare to outside of opposite wheel well flare is just over 12"

Body length is almost 2 feet (approx 23")

Height from ground up, when resting on ground: 7 inches

[Mr M]

Thanx Philster much appreciated.

[SixVi6-Camaro]

hehe.. well after getting some prices on getting the GT 2 speed and body I decied to forget finishing the conversion of my Landmax 2 to GT spec. just too expensive. Instead I picked up a Whole New Inferno GT BMW on ebay. When I get it I will be completely dissasembling it and rebuilding it with the hop ups from my other 7.5 buggies and half converted Landmax 2. I can't wait!

[SeattleRCer]

Do any online retailers carry the Subaru Impreza body kit? Or do I have to order direct from Kyosho America? I don't have the GT kit, but I was thinking of converting my 777 to a rally car. :D

Also, anyone have some some suggestions on part changes I could make to my 777 to make it closer to GT spec?

Thanks for the help!

[Philster]

Body: Kyosho direct. Number at website.

Well, GT has it's own shorter susp arms and shorter shocks, along with different f/r shock towers than the buggy.

[SixVi6-Camaro]

Here we go.. I got my Inferno GT and it stayed in one piece stock for about 10 minutes. here are the pics of the whole buildup using all kinds of hop ups from the Landmax 2 and other 7.5 buggy hop ups I had around.


All stock.. It was like this for about 10 minutes..
http://home.comcast.net/~pewter_camaro/GT_01.jpg

the Old half buggy converted Landmax 2 that sports lots of hop ups and the All stock inferno GT.
http://home.comcast.net/~pewter_camaro/GT_02.jpg

15 minutes later the inferno GT was in pieces.
http://home.comcast.net/~pewter_camaro/GT_03.jpg

these are the only parts of the inferno GT that I used!
http://home.comcast.net/~pewter_camaro/GT_05.jpg

And the parts of the inferno GT I didn't use. lol!
http://home.comcast.net/~pewter_camaro/GT_06.jpg

OK After drilling holes and dremeling the JT chassis the 2 speed and fuel tank is mounted!
http://home.comcast.net/~pewter_camaro/GT_07.jpg

Rear assembly complete using the Inferno GT shock tower, body mount, and shocks only.
http://home.comcast.net/~pewter_camaro/GT_08.jpg

Front end is assembled again using the GT's shocks, shock towers, and bumper.
http://home.comcast.net/~pewter_camaro/GT_09.jpg

Radio tray and electronics all on!
http://home.comcast.net/~pewter_camaro/GT_10.jpg

and complete.. Lots of mods to get that engine mounted though. I had to dremel off the stock casted in motor mount, pull off the Massive diamater stock flywheel, Take off the pull start (too big and was hitting the Driveshaft) It was a pain but the motor sits a almost 1/2" lower than stock mounts.
http://home.comcast.net/~pewter_camaro/GT_11.jpg

And all the leftover parts!! these will go toward getting the truggy some new plastic and electronics before I sell it.
http://home.comcast.net/~pewter_camaro/GT_12.jpg

Pretty much this has got to be the most hoped up Inferno GT on the planet... lol!

Here is a list off the top of my head of all the hop ups on it.

-Hardened steel diffs
-Sway bars front and rear
-JT 7075 Lightened chassis for a 7.5 buggy (decent amount of Drilling and countersinking to get a buggy chassis to work with a GT's 2 speed)
-Racers edge AL front and rear braces, Top plate, and servo tray
-7075 AL Servo tray standoffs
-JR 650M steering servo
-turnbuckles for all adjustments
-Universal drives front rear and center (no dogbones anywhere)
-small diamater 7.5 buggy flywheel
-standard motor mounts (motor sits very low compared to the stock mounts Lots of dremel work to get this to work)
-NO pull start (It was hitting the rear Center drive had to get creative with the loss of the pull start)
-Paris Racing pipe (dunno which one it was only $10 on ebay lol)
-Hyper 7 filter tube (keeps filter out of the way)
-Thunder tiger/monster GT air filter
-spektrum Radio gear
-M8 controller
-Landmax 2 rear hubs (allows for wheelbase adjustment and has a lower roll center)

lol.. I just realised I never even opened the instructions or the radio gear or tools or anything.. just pulled the Rc out and tore it down! Yes I said I never opened the instructions.. I have 4 Kyosho MP7.5 based Rc's. working on Kyosho buggies is like 2nd nature. Tomorow I break it in and get some nice daytime Pics although its suposed to rain.. which would suck but hopfully I'll get lucky and it will stay dry.

Edit.. one more pic..

http://home.comcast.net/~pewter_camaro/GT_04.jpg

Size difference between Tarmac II's and inferno GT wheels. I will be running the Tarmac II's on the GT so it will be lower than stock.

[Philster]

You're nuts, in a good way!

[mook]

looks good sixvi6camaro.

I've asked this before in this thread, but seeing as you have a gt and an lm2 ----I have been wondering if the GT inferno wheels would fit an lm2 without any fouling.

what do you reckon?

thanks

[SixVi6-Camaro]

wel the stock LM2 hexes are 19mm so you would have to upgrade to buggy 17mm hexes by buying the GT axle stubs and hexes. After that it Depends on what kind of header you have on the engine and possibly the side guards might hit the tires. I've not had the side guard things on my LM2 in years but I do remember them being tight with the Tarmac II's and on my LM2 the Medial Pro Tarmac II's were really close to the header ofna header I was running. in fact.. they were this close..

http://home.comcast.net/~exsells/tarmac_01.jpg

and as a comparison
Inferno GT wheel vs Tarmac II
http://home.comcast.net/~pewter_camaro/GT_04.jpg

then compare Medial Pro to stock LM2 wheels and tires
http://home.comcast.net/~exsells/tarmac_03.jpg


.. more observations on the GT... I'm half way through breakin now. I didn't like the clutch engagement too much. It comes on way to early so I cut 3 coils off the clutch spring and its much better. the Clutch doesn't drag at idle anymore and has better feel. I was looking at the stock GT's gears. They are actual steel gears not hardened but they are helical cut gears rather than the usual kyosho straight cut gears. after I decide on a diff oil combo I might toss in the helical cut gears.

I can't wait until the track gets their new on road track setup. I'm going to take the GT out there and really get some track time with it! should be fun to see the GT out there dwarfing almost everyhitng on the track.. lol!

[SixVi6-Camaro]

Its raining so I have nohting better to do and some people were asing to see my RC18 vs the GT so...

http://home.comcast.net/~pewter_camaro/GT_16.jpg

http://home.comcast.net/~pewter_camaro/GT_15.jpg

and finally

Pretty a cool shot of the GT in the drizzle outside.
http://home.comcast.net/~pewter_camaro/GT_14.jpg

[slw4red]

Dammit, i am soooo tempted to get out the Credit Card and pick up a GT today!!!

All i wanna see is some video of one to finalize the sale for me.
Please up some video if you guys have some.

[SixVi6-Camaro]

I dont' have a video camera or else I would.

Its raining, I'm bored so I dug up some 17mm hex wheels and tires all of which will mount to the GT but one of the wheels would not clear the body or side guards too well.. lol!

http://home.comcast.net/~pewter_camaro/GT_17.jpg

Note... Do not run the large MT sized tires on a GT or 7.5 buggy ever.. they are soo huge it would throw the gearing completely off, cook the clutch, and overheat the engine very quickly.

[nickt916]

75 MPH! CAUTION DRIVE WITH CARE

how true is that, because i dont believe it for one second... i thought these go like 50 mph stock not 75!!!

http://www.storacingproducts.com/cgi-bin/trolleyed_public.cgi?action=showprod_31811

[Philster]

Yes. 43-45 MPH is more realistic. With the bigger pinion gears and tallers tires, 50 MPH would be the max.

[SixVi6-Camaro]

lol.. 75mph no way. They are too heavy and not aerodynamic enough to ever hit 75mph. I have to agree that around 50mph would be about the max.

[nickt916]

then someone shold sue them for false advertisement, i mean common thats like 25mph OFF!!!!

[Philster]

Alot of folks think like this:

"Hmmm...A Kyosho truggy/buggy based on the 7.5 with a one-speed center diff with the GXR28 engine will do about 35-38 MPH, so if you add a two speed tranny, the speed should double."

We all know it just doesn't work that way.

[slw4red]

ok guys and girls.

Where can i browse through hop-ups and spare parts for this GT.
like a web site i can read and look-up prices on without needing to ask.

What dam bodies fit on it (neatly) i am a fanatic about the way a body fits, must look good.

and where can i buy good wide road tires and rally tires for its wheels and also new wheels.

and one last thing, does a buggy wheel and tire fit with the body on???
mine will be the BMW (since the WRX doesnt fit\look correct)

just clearing a few things up before i got buy one.

[SixVi6-Camaro]

grrr.. . 2 speed is ticking me off and all I've done is take the clip off once to see how to get to the adjustment! I was on the last tank of breakin this evening running it with decent power. I have not adjust the shift point or anyhitng its juts in 1st gear all the time. well then the thing all the sudden stoped and everyhitng was almost locked up. took it to the garage and pulled off the body and found the clip that is supposed to hold the gears in place (the clip you remove to adjust the 2 speed) missing and the gears moved forward. Luckily nothing is broken but that clip is nowhere to be found. If it came off during breakin only in 1st gear no way I'd trust it when I'm really moving the thing in second gear. its a soft plastic clip on a high speed rotating part. I've already made up a new clip using an old plastic bushing that I cut that snaps on tight. It won't be easy to get on and off but it won't come off on me for sure. If the 2 speed fails I'll go single speed in a heartbeat.

[SixVi6-Camaro]

ok guys and girls.

Where can i browse through hop-ups and spare parts for this GT.
like a web site i can read and look-up prices on without needing to ask.

What dam bodies fit on it (neatly) i am a fanatic about the way a body fits, must look good.

and where can i buy good wide road tires and rally tires for its wheels and also new wheels.

and one last thing, does a buggy wheel and tire fit with the body on???
mine will be the BMW (since the WRX doesnt fit\look correct)

just clearing a few things up before i got buy one.

Well there are no simple to look up places online for parts and hop ups for the GT as of yet. I believe there will be good parts stops on line soon though with the popiularity of the Gt. Many of the parts and hops on the 7.5 buggies are a direct fit on the GT though but you have to know which will work because they are all not interchangeable.

bodes.. other than the Kyosho ones, there are bodies available in the UK that will fit nice on the GT (look for "rally game" on the UK sites) but really None of them are super scale realistic because the wheelbase and width of the GT is not all there for pure scale realism. I picked up the BMW body as well for the same reason though.. looks a lot more porportional. Nothing beats the older Kyosho Landmax 2 series for Pure scale realism.

Most 1/8 scale buggy wheels will fit on the GT which means all the buggy tires will work too so there are lots of choices for wheels and tires. Buggy tires are taller but do look good on them with the body raised up a bit.

I can snap a few pics of mine with a set of my off road 1/8 buggy tires on my GT tomorow to give you an idea.

[slw4red]

So the 2 speed is giving some trouble,

i'm thinking about buying the single speed and jamming a 8 port Novarossi in it when i get it.




So how long have these GT's been on the market, there is not much around for them... and living in Australia just makes it dam harder.

[SixVi6-Camaro]

Yeah I really like single speed. More tunable using diff oils and the ability to have adjustable brake bias front to rear is a plus. Its not a huge problem I had with the 2 speed.. just that silly clip came off. It won't happen again now that I have a much stiffer clip in there.

Only probably 4 months or so. If it helps 90% of the parts are right off an MP 7.5 buggy. the only parts that are GT specific are the body mount, bumper, shock towers, shocks, 2 speed tranny and center plate. Everything else is straight off an MP7.5 buggy.

[slw4red]

That helps ALOT,


Will the 300mm HPI bodies fit? > does anyone know.

I really wanna go with 1\8 on road (but a car suited to rough on road action not groomed hotmix), with shaft drive not belt.
does the GT sound like the car for me??

if not what else should i consider, i have never looked into the onroad side of things.

[SixVi6-Camaro]

No the HPI 300mm bodies are too small by quite a bit. 300mm HPI bodies are about 8-9" wide.. GT body is 12" wide.

rough on road is whay I went to the Kyosho Landmax 2 and now have the GT. They are best for bumpy, dirty, old parking lots and smooth dirt lots and the like.

you could also look at the Ofna 1/7..

http://www.ofna.com/hyper17.html

Its much longer than the GT but it in the same vein and would make an excelent parking lot all round runner.

Also Thunder tiger has an inferno GT like rally RC that is large on road. Called the ER-1 as well as other Rally Game versions of their 1/8 buggies.

http://www.acehobby.com/ace/1.8_cars.htm

[vad]

ok guys and girls.


What dam bodies fit on it (neatly) i am a fanatic about the way a body fits, must look good.

and where can i buy good wide road tires and rally tires for its wheels and also new wheels.

and one last thing, does a buggy wheel and tire fit with the body on???
mine will be the BMW (since the WRX doesnt fit\look correct)

just clearing a few things up before i got buy one.


For bodies try http://www.deltaplastik.it/categoria_modellismo_5_pag_1_eng.html

For tires look for someone who sells GRP tires, new Action Tire line is what you want for rally tires.

If you can get these guys to send some tires to you check it out http://www.rceclubalcamo.it/catalog/index.php?cPath=24_27_29 Those are SP racing tires,

This is directly to SP racings website http://www.spracing.it/home.htm

Crono sell a line of RS rally tires, I think its made by GRP, in Australia call or email this person for Rally tires

AUSTRALIA
COLIN NASH
0061746332759
icbuggy@austarnet.com.au

[vad]

So the 2 speed is giving some trouble,

i'm thinking about buying the single speed and jamming a 8 port Novarossi in it when i get it.




So how long have these GT's been on the market, there is not much around for them... and living in Australia just makes it dam harder.


Yeah skip on the 2 speed and look into setup with gearing and a nice Novarossi 35plus21.

[vad]

These are some pics of other rally car owners.... hope this gives you some ideas....


http://www.cochesrc.com/foros/viewtopic.php?t=62601&sid=f393bdeb489a41608da44c7b6a462ffe

[SixVi6-Camaro]

Very cool links! I really wish rally game would get popular in the States. I soo want to get a slick more areodynamic body for my Inferno GT. I love the look of this MC12 body.. http://www.deltaplastik.it/prodotto_0127.html but I bet it would be expensive to get to the states.

[vad]

Very cool links! I really wish rally game would get popular in the States. I soo want to get a slick more areodynamic body for my Inferno GT. I love the look of this MC12 body.. http://www.deltaplastik.it/prodotto_0127.html but I bet it would be expensive to get to the states.


Just one body would be expensive, its the shipping that will get you, multiple bodies spreads the cost of shipping. Group order or serval different bodies is the way to go when ordering from overseas.

[Philster]

ok guys and girls.

Where can i browse through hop-ups and spare parts for this GT.
like a web site i can read and look-up prices on without needing to ask.

What dam bodies fit on it (neatly) i am a fanatic about the way a body fits, must look good.

and where can i buy good wide road tires and rally tires for its wheels and also new wheels.

and one last thing, does a buggy wheel and tire fit with the body on???
mine will be the BMW (since the WRX doesnt fit\look correct)

just clearing a few things up before i got buy one.


See this thread for some hop ups and links for tires, wheels, etc. Also, lots of other info to address other questions:

http://forums.radiocontrolzone.com/showthread.php?t=206141&highlight=inferno+gt

[Philster]

Gulp! New Kyosho Inferno GT painted bodies are $119!!!

Good news: In a few weeks, clear bodies of all three (Subura, BMW, ImpulZ Calsonic) will be available via Kyosho clear for 50 bucks.

50 bucks is do-able. Smaller cheesier bodies go for $30-35, so $50 for a big 1/8 rally body is acceptable. Kyosho's bodies are nicely done.

Time to think up a paint scheme. :)

(Had to order a carb rebuild kit because I am getting fuel/air through my low speed screw. I made one tweak to the thing since new to get the low speed dieled in, but I guess the o-ring isn't sitting right for some reason. I will take it out to inspect it first. How the heck can it be good one day and leak the next?)

[SixVi6-Camaro]

Yeah the $120 Body cost wasone reason why I dumped my idea to convert my buggy over. $50 though is not a problem but I wonder if that is including the decals too. I want to get a GTP LeMans style body. I sure hope Kyosho makes one if not I'll probably buy a slew of bodies from overseas then sell some on ebay.

What I find happens to o-rings is they swell and/or shrink whn they are in contact with Nitro fuel. Many times I replace leaking O rings with silicone o rings they make for shocks.

[slw4red]

Hey guys is that $120 US or what??? that is some scary S***

since the kyosho bodies are the only ones that seem to look good in the realism area i might skip this bird and get a truggy....

[SixVi6-Camaro]

yes.. thats $120 USD for the Fully painted stickers already on it and all bodies. the Unpainted bodies will be around $50 USD

[slw4red]

Hey guys will 1\8 buggy tyres fit on the kyosho inferno GT's stock wheels??

and can i buy the buggies shocks to give the GT a taller ride height?

I can get over the body, now i'm looking for wheels.

i wish these were as popular as 1\10.

[Philster]

Yes. For tires and wheels, you shop for 1/8 buggy stuff. Nubbs and spikes might be tight under the wheel wells, but raising the body seems to help tire clearance. Yes, 1/8 buggy tires fit on the stock rims.

104-105mm diameter tires are about the max before there is a little rubbing.

I guess you could add taller shocks, which would need taller towers, but then you'd have a buggy, more or less.

I have a truggy and the Inferno. Still very very different experiences.

(Body note: Get over the body. It is probably the nicest lexan body I ever held, and since I would never buy a painted body as an add on anyway, I only care that clear bodies are going to be about 50 U.S. dollars. That is a pretty fair price. Kyosho bodies are pretty thick, and they have alot of details. It is more like a 1/6 scale body)

[slw4red]

so if i went in tomorrow and picked up a GT and some proline Knuckles 2.0 (tyres only) and got home ripped the tyres off the stock rims, i could just glue the buggy tyres straight on the stock GT wheels (with out buying buggy wheels)
sorry if my question sounds dumb, i'm just "deeply" explaining it so i dont mess up. cos yeah, i like the stock rims but hate the tyres with a passion, seen em up close at my LHS.
would taller shock towers fit under the BMW body?? i kinda wanna give it a meaty buggy stance with aggressive tread and keep the "CAR" look about it.

[Philster]

Take Inferno GT rims. Rip off tires. Install 1/8 buggy tires.

I don't have my Inferno with me (at work now), but tallers towers should fit under any body. Might need to raise the body a bit, but I have had mine quite high (at least 1.5" above the shock towers) and it still looked normal.

[slw4red]

Awesome,

in the case of getting taller towers and shocks it wouldnt matter with the body lifted (if needed) as it should look aggressive either way.
well i hope so.

hmm is there anywhere in australia to get hop ups like pinions etc, in the event of me installing some evil motor like my savage and lst2. (ive been emailing places with no luck :( )

do you think those blue shock tower\chassis braces off a inferno ST-R truggy will fit the GT, i kinda like the look of them, i dont know much about these, i'm a truck guy :).
i like its chassis too, wonder how it would go fitting wise, lol

[Philster]

I don't know.

In another Inferno GT thread, Steve Pond rambled off some retailers in some other countries. I think he listed some in Australia and Japan.

I think the ST-R and Inferno Chassis are the same, except the ST-R is tricked out galore and has long truggy arms.

[slw4red]

is there anything around in the USA for it?

i kinda want all the needed bits to be able to switch between on-road, truggy and buggy, built with some of the "pro" bits including that chassis and braces (if they fit).
this car seems really universal, that something i like about it.
i think i might try and order a clear wrx body for when it gets chunky looking, might suit it better (for my taste) use the bmw for onroad bashing.

BTW thanks for helping with all my Q's.

[SeattleRCer]

Well, I've temporarily quelched my desire to convert my 777 to a rally car, and went ahead and bought a GT!! :D It should arrive next week!

In my search for painted and unpainted GT bodies, I called up Brian at Kyosho customer service and found out you can get them from a hobby shop for much less than direct from Kyosho. While a painted Impreza or BMW body from Kyosho costs $120, it costs around $60 from a hobby shop! Unpainted bodies, once they hit the shelves, will be even less. Maybe $30 to $40! So call up your local (or not so local) Kyosho dealer and see what they can do for you! ;) Just thought I'd give some good news! :D

[Philster]

I spoke to Bryan as well (yesterday). Nice guy, but I gotta lay a smack down on him for not giving me that extra tidbit. I had a hunch he was quoting me the ol' list price (aka 'the greatly inflated price no one should pay').

Well, lucky for me two local shops are Kyosho dealers. They don't stock squat, but if they order they give me the lower street price.

[SixVi6-Camaro]

do you think those blue shock tower\chassis braces off a inferno ST-R truggy will fit the GT, i kinda like the look of them, i dont know much about these, i'm a truck guy :).
i like its chassis too, wonder how it would go fitting wise, lol


Chassis for the ST-R and GT are not the same. ST-R is 777 based.. GT is 7.5 based.. the front ends have different steering and layout. Also if you want to run an aftermarket 7.5 buggy chassis you will have to drill and countersink holes in it for the 2 speed and the fuel tank and open up under the spur gear a lot. the 2 speed is longer overall form drive cup to drive cup than the standard center diff and the 2 speed clutchbell is longer so the fuel tank needs to be muved forward.

Pro bits form the MP7.5, Kanai 1, and Kanai 2 will fit on the GT except the shock towers, and wing mount. (Kanai 3's have different front suspension so the suspension arms won't work). Al front brace, top plate, Rear brace (you will need the wing mount stay to make the rear brace work though), Universals from a 7.5 will work everywhere Except the rear center one because the pull start is too big. all the Aluminum fancy hop ups made for a Kanai 2 or older 7.5 buggy will work on a GT as well. this includes ALuminum knuckles, Uprights, rear hub carriers... Ect.

Shock towers Can but in the rear you will need the long buggy shocks and the body will have to sit quite high to clear the sock tower. Front the shock towers form a buggy should work but will sit higher. There is the possibility of running front buggy shock tower on the rear of the GT but I have not gotten around to checking that. One problem would be where to mount the body mount on the buggy shock tower. So yeah all the Kyosho 1/8 scales are similiar but not identical like Many people think.

take a peek at the pics in my GT buildup thread. Many of the bling bling Aluminum parts on it are from one of my old K2 buggies.

http://forums.radiocontrolzone.com/showpost.php?p=2007716&postcount=113

[slw4red]

Well i picked up my GT today :) Put 3 tanks through her. i like......

Also got me some Pro-Line Knuckles 2.0's i like em, will put them on soon enough, will have to cut the wheel arches slightly to take on the new rubber.

1 problem, what is the factory carby settings and also,
when i steer left it is really, well crappy but it goes off when steered right, (wont really powerslide going left) im not ratting it during run in my street is slippery so yeah,

i cannot work out why it wont get full steering?? with-out body and full new batteries.

ALSO on the suspension arms i noticed there are like a grug screw the hits the chassis, looks like if wound in it would allow the GT to sit higher (better ground clearance) ???? anyone know about this?

Here is some pics.

http://f5.putfile.com/5/12405291625.jpg
http://f5.putfile.com/5/12405304038.jpg
http://f5.putfile.com/5/12405320798.jpg
http://f5.putfile.com/5/12405312259.jpg

[SixVi6-Camaro]

Looks good!

The Grub screws are used to limit suspension travel. if you are looking for more suspension travel move the shocks to the inboard holes on the susupension arms then back off the grub screws until the shocks are at full travel.

The steering, check the controller to be sure the end point adjustment is set to the max. Also can try disconnecting the steering servo to be sure nothing is binding. Not totaly sure on the steering because I never even opened the stock controller or used any of the stock electroncs.

[Philster]

Steering:

Maybe the servo wasn't centered with the steering. I would take off the servo arm and center the servo, then check the steering free hand. It is a pretty bullet proof set up, so nothing funky should be going on.

The controller stock has a DR adjustment knob that limits steering response.

I use a Spektrum, so I can't tell you how the stock radio works, but it seemed ok during break in.

[nickt916]

Someone Please Get A Video Of This Thing Doing Its Thing ...please!!!!

[Philster]

Check back Sunday night for a QuickTime movie.

[apposite]

just got the fabulous Kyosho Inferno GT.

Here's some video of it's first run after breaking in the engine. Tires are OFNA 1:8 scale buggy foam tires (a must) soft compound. The ride height is stock - needs to be lowered. You will notice no shifting - stuck in second gear like most people are experiencing just out of the box. Easy to adjust with the tranny IN the car - you do NOT have to remove the transmission to adjust the shift point as the manual states.

check out the video

Kyosho Inferno GT maiden voyage (http://rivercityrc.org/records/videos/clark.wmv)
please save to hard drive for viewing


Clark
Club Predient
River City RC . . . racing to perfection in Northern California
http://rivercityrc.org

[Philster]

Was there an Impul Z bodied Inferno in that video?


Very sweet. I have the Ofna foams (hard) and they are excellent. I seem to have less 'traction' roll threat than the car in the video.

That is a mixed blessing: tires that stick so good you might get too much bite and flip!

[nickt916]

just got the fabulous Kyosho Inferno GT.

Here's some video of it's first run after breaking in the engine. Tires are OFNA 1:8 scale buggy foam tires (a must) soft compound. The ride height is stock - needs to be lowered. You will notice no shifting - stuck in second gear like most people are experiencing just out of the box. Easy to adjust with the tranny IN the car - you do NOT have to remove the transmission to adjust the shift point as the manual states.

check out the video

Kyosho Inferno GT maiden voyage (http://rivercityrc.org/records/videos/clark.wmv)
please save to hard drive for viewing


Clark
Club Predient
River City RC . . . racing to perfection in Northern California
http://rivercityrc.org


wouldnt it be better go get some other tires for slightly less traction, because it flipped like 3 times... beter to just drift those corners without flipping it... but it was a nice video tho, fix that 2nd gear shifting problem and get a few more vids, id love to see/hear it shift and see its first gear potential.

[apposite]

lowering the ride height solved the traction roll problem! I want to get the hard compound foams, but everybody is out of stock. Our track uses VHT (2 gallons a week), so traction is superb! I have seen some 1:10 touring cars traction roll!

The car handles superbly, just point it in the direction you want to go and it gets there. Exactly steering and handling - everyone who has driven it wants to get one. There are at east 6-8 in our club alone.

I always use Hitec servos - 925s for both and I run a Spektrum system. Hop ups that I will be trying this weekend are a Picco .27 with OFNA three shoe clutch, 15/19 pinions and clutchbell, and OFNA high flow pipe. I currently have three GT's - 1 completely stock, 1 stock except for servos (one in the film), and 1 that I am hopping up.

hopefully I will get some video shot so I will post Sunday night or Monday.


Clark
Club Predient
River City RC . . . racing to perfection in Northern California
http://rivercityrc.org

[Jonerick]

just got the fabulous Kyosho Inferno GT.

Here's some video of it's first run after breaking in the engine. Tires are OFNA 1:8 scale buggy foam tires (a must) soft compound. The ride height is stock - needs to be lowered. You will notice no shifting - stuck in second gear like most people are experiencing just out of the box. Easy to adjust with the tranny IN the car - you do NOT have to remove the transmission to adjust the shift point as the manual states.

check out the video

Kyosho Inferno GT maiden voyage (http://rivercityrc.org/records/videos/clark.wmv)
please save to hard drive for viewing


Clark
Club Predient
River City RC . . . racing to perfection in Northern California
http://rivercityrc.org


How come I can't view the video. Any help?

[Philster]

Should open in Windows Media Player.

[Philster]

. Hop ups that I will be trying this weekend are a Picco .27 with OFNA three shoe clutch, 15/19 pinions and clutchbell, and OFNA high flow pipe.
Clark
Club Predient
River City RC . . . racing to perfection in Northern California
http://rivercityrc.org

The 15/19 combo is possible? Isn't it 14/17 stock, so that you can go 15/18, and 16/19.

There will be too much slop between one gear and one spur, no?

[apposite]

haven't installed it yet - it's what Kyosho America recommended and sold me. we will see how the mesh is - will report back!

Clark
Club Predient
River City RC . . . racing to perfection in Northern California
http://rivercityrc.org

[nickt916]

im selling some stuff on ebay to get money and to buy this GT, still doing some more research on it. If you install the 7.5 shock towers and shocks will it be more usable for ofroad and ride softer?

Also i would like to build up the GT to have a higher top speed, to reach about 65mph is this possible with changing the gears alone and taller tires, or more should be done to achive this?

[Brooks Reid]

I love this car! We are running on (and sometimes off) the street and abusing the cars pretty hard. After about a gallon of fuel, the first thing to go on my car was the clutch. I think what happened was the screw on the end of the gears on the clutch bell assembly on the motor came loose. When I took it apart I noticed the end screw was missing, one of the roller bearing was missing it's bearings and the clutch spring was broken.I was able to pick up the Kyrosha Clutch assemby part at RC Hobbies in Ft Lauderdale, FL. I also replaced the roller bearing with all bearings( Traxxas #4606). It took about 6-7 bearing to fill the space. I also used the Ofna Shim Kit, Clutch Bells (#10410) for the washers, screw and spacer to hold it all in place. I put some lock tight on the screw to seal it.
After that it was running like a bat out of hell. I had the needle set to 2 and 1/2 turns as recommended and it was screaming. I think that was a little too lean because after one run the glow plug failed. I replaced it and opened the needle up a quarter turn.

I have noticed that as the car wears in, the gears are changing properly. At first I thought it was switching gears too quickly. When I spoke to Kyrosha America about it (BTW Brian there is very helpful and enthusiastic about the Inferno and had personal experince with the car) he suggested to leave the shift where is was. I'm happy with the way the car is performing so I am going to leave it for now. Another thing Brian suggested was to cut air holes in the body. The bodies are so good looking it's hard to start sliceing them up but the heat builds up without ventilation. I used a hole saw and cut out a circular hole in the front drivers side, rear drivers side and even the side windows. It is running at about 190-220? which is well within the motor's range.
BTW- We are racing on the street in front of our house and one thing that is great about the 1/8 scale is, if you go off the road into dirt, grass, gravel, etc. you can usually get back on. If you do go off the road the tires pick up a little dirt and you lose traction which is a lot of fun. We're racing on a corner street so we have a nice wide turn in the middle of our track but at the end we have to turn in the width of the 2 lane street which is pretty tight. We have no problem with traction flipping since the street is always a little dirty and the car will always power slide and drifting is the best technique for fast hairpin turns. If you apply half break and turn the steering at the same time you can power slide around a pylon and pull a nice tight turn. We have already worn the tread down the stock tires so now they are more like slicks.
We have had some spectacular wrecks! I mean high speed flipping through the air crashes! I also went wide off the road and hit a sharp mound in the grass that launched my car airborn like Smokey And The Bandit. The cars are durable and take a lot of punishment.

[nickt916]

I want to get the Inferno GT into the 60-65mph range. The few options i can think of right now are:

Taller gears first and second gear
Exhaust pipe
Taller tires
7.5 shocks and shock towers for softer ride for those little bumps
Maybe take off a few extra things to save weight

Any other suggestions? (besides changing the motor)

[apposite]

Well today I ran my GT with the following hop-ups installed:
Picco 27 non pullstart
OFNA Jammin high flow pipe
OFNA 3 shoe clutch
Hitec 925 servos
Spektrum RX
OFNA rubber slicks
The rest of the car is bone stock with all the out-of-the-box settings (camber, toe-in, etc.), ride height lowered to 7-10mm, original clutchbell and gearing.

Wow, the speed increase is phenominal without gearing up (that's next). The servos help eliminate the awful push I was having with the slicks - foams were not a problem. The slicks vs foam gave some sliding benefit with minimal traction loss. I will be running foams next week so I'll report on them then. It will be interesting to see what the 15/18 or 19 does to the overall topend (next weekend).

the video from today has been posted


KYOSHO INFERNO GT test running (http://rivercityrc.org/records/videos/) (http://rivercityrc.org/records/videos/)

Click on the "infernogt.wmv" link and save the file to your computer to help me conserve bandwidth.

Clark
Club President
River City RC . . . racing to perfection in Northern California
http://rivercityrc.org

[Brooks Reid]

Clark,
Why did you change out the Engine? Are you getting more speed from the Pico engine?
I have been breaking the clutch spring in my Inferno. I can't figure out why. What is the advantage of the 3 shoe clutch? Did you have to modify the crankshaft plate pins to use the OFNA 3 shoe clutch?
I don't understand what you mean that the new servos eliminated the push you were having from the slicks?
Also from the video it looks as if the added weight of the 1/8 scale makes harder to be competitive on a short track. The 1/10 scale cars look like they were tighter in the turns. Did you find this to be true?

[apposite]

well, I hate to admit it, but I have three of these puppies right now (one is being held for a friend), so I have a stock and a hopped-up GT.

The three shoe clutch fits the flywheel of the Picco and is stiffer than stock so it "pops" at little higher rpm. You would have to get a different flywheel to use a three shoe clutch with the stock motor. I haven't experienced any breakage of the stock clutch springs. My recommendation is to call Kyosho America and tell them, perhaps they know of a specific issue.

The stock servos just didn't have enough torque and holding power for the increased speed. I was pushing hard and definitely was having a hard time making any tight turns. Good steering servos are always worth the upgrade!

The 1:10 scales were quicker in the infield, but if you check around the 2:20 mark of the video you will see it is very competitive in the straights! A lot of performance issues are due to the driver, me, who is very inexperienced. I have only been in r/c for less than a year and onroad for about 6 months. I should shoot some video with a more experienced driver so you can see the real potential!

Everybody who drives this car wants one!!!


Clark
Club President
River City RC . . . racing to perfection in Northern California
http://rivercityrc.org

[Brooks Reid]

Thanks for the reply Clark. I love the car too. My son had a 1/10 scale HPI and had been coming home from work every day and practicing around the street in front of our house. I decided to get a car to give him a little competition. When I went to buy the HPI the hobby store talked me into the 1/8 scale Inferno. Then I realized I had to buy one for my son too! His car is running fine and has not broken any clutch parts like me. He runs a bit more conservative than I do. I love the sound of these things when the really wind up so I'm sure I'm going to pay the price.
Why the Pico 27? They also sell a 28. wouldn't that be a closer match to the stock Kyosho 28 engine? Is the Pico a better engine than the Kyosha engine? What is the cost? Did you have to change the mounts?

Thanks
Brooks

[apposite]

The person who owned it before me bought those parts, I just installed them. I believe it is an 7 port motor and has a claimed hp of 3.14. If I were going to upgrade the motor I might go with the new OS engine - the .30VG (http://www.towerhobbies.com/products/os_engines/osmg2075m.html). I believe this motor is a significant upgrade to the stock engine in as far as hp and rpm are concerned. I believe the cost was 229. I'll go check - I have the box. I had to use different motor mounts - I will take some pics tomorrow or tuesday detailed the engine mounts.

Clark
Club President
River City RC . . . racing to perfection in Northern California
http://rivercityrc.org

[apposite]

OK, I found the box.

Picco 27 Outlaw engine - part# 51230
www.piccomicromotori.com

List 299, actual 255


Clark
Club President
River City RC . . . racing to perfection in Northern California
http://rivercityrc.org

[Brooks Reid]

I gotta tell ya, the way my car is running now, it screams. I'm fine with the stock engine. Especially since another engine would cost me 2/3 what I paid for the whole car. I would just like to upgrade the clutch so I don't have any more broken springs.

[slw4red]

on the shock tower there are 3 holes on each side at the top and 3 more about half way down.
if i mount my shocks there instead of the top holes and also wind those screws on my suspension arms to get full ground clearance will that give me the ride height of the buggy with out the need of the buggy shock towers and shocks???

[vad]

FYI, Towerhobbies will be releasing a new OS Vspec 21 team version. The motor is modified by Ed Bridges (EB mods). OS is also coming out with a .28 version engine for the 1/8 scale truggy class. EB mods will be modding those engines as well for Hobbico/towerhobbies. This is for you guys who are considering a new engine. These motors which are modified are more race engines and should give you performance which might not be found with other stock engines.

[Philster]

Well today I ran my GT with the following hop-ups installed:
Picco 27 non pullstart
OFNA Jammin high flow pipe
OFNA 3 shoe clutch
Hitec 925 servos
Spektrum RX
OFNA rubber slicks
The rest of the car is bone stock with all the out-of-the-box settings (camber, toe-in, etc.), ride height lowered to 7-10mm, original clutchbell and gearing.

Wow, the speed increase is phenominal without gearing up (that's next). The servos help eliminate the awful push I was having with the slicks - foams were not a problem. The slicks vs foam gave some sliding benefit with minimal traction loss. I will be running foams next week so I'll report on them then. It will be interesting to see what the 15/18 or 19 does to the overall topend (next weekend).

the video from today has been posted


KYOSHO INFERNO GT test running (http://rivercityrc.org/records/videos/) (http://rivercityrc.org/records/videos/)

Click on the "infernogt.wmv" link and save the file to your computer to help me conserve bandwidth.

Clark
Club President
River City RC . . . racing to perfection in Northern California
http://rivercityrc.org


Did you use the Inferno engine mounts from the 7.5 buggy for the Picco?

[apposite]

for engine mounting you need the following Kyosho Inferno GT parts

IF107 engine mount spacer
IF108 engine mount

Clark
Club President
River City RC . . . racing to perfection in Northern California
http://rivercityrc.org

[meda2ni]

I ordered mine today...$395 shipped..today:)
Props to Philster for helping me out on rcuniverse....
Has anyone found a store to buy clear body's or painted??
I know Philster said kyosho will be shipping out bodies out soon.....


Can't wait for mine...

[Brooks Reid]

Kyosho is shipping the bodies. My local hobby store had the BMW body in stock. I also saw a OFNA 1/8 scale Porche body but don't know if it will fit. The OFNA was fairly expensive, $65 unpainted. I talked with Kyosho and they do not have any immediate plans for any other bodies. Maybe with enough grease they could be convinced otherwise. Also there is Delta Plastik in Italy. The bodies are priced right but it's expensive to ship, $50 shipping.

[vad]

Its really nice to see bodies other than BMW and Subaru....

http://www.polepositionrc.com/bala30.JPG

http://www.polepositionrc.com/10%204%2005%20144.jpg

[Brooks Reid]

Who makes those bodies?
Also-CONFIRMED PROBLEM. I have two Kyosho Infernos and they both have developed clutch problems. The clutch is breaking springs and burning up. This is probably a heat and friction issue since one of them melted the metal clutch shoes.
I have replace or repair the springs 4 times now on one car. The other one damaged the bell housing and the the shoes beyond repair.
I am thinking now on replacing all the clutch and gear parts on the motor.
Any suggestion?
Thanks
Brooks

[apposite]

call Kyosho America! They are very helpful!!!

[fritzzz]

Hi,

Are these bodies on actual Inferno GT's?

Thanks

Chris

[fritzzz]

Someone posted this link for alternate bodies for the Kyosho inferno GT for the Delta plastik 1/8 scale rally bodies

http://www.deltaplastik.it/categoria_modellismo_5_pag_1_eng.html

And they look pretty good.

HongNor is another body supplier that was mentioned somewhere.

[slw4red]

Someone posted this link for alternate bodies for the Kyosho inferno GT for the Delta plastik 1/8 scale rally bodies

http://www.deltaplastik.it/categoria_modellismo_5_pag_1_eng.html

And they look pretty good.

HongNor is another body supplier that was mentioned somewhere.

Does anyone know anywhere else to get different bodies....

i just contacted them about getting some bodies to australia off them....
Just worked it out, just over $300 if i get 4 bodies "posted" :(




SCALA 1:8 rally game:

PASSO (Da bullone ruota anteriore a bullone ruota posteriore) circa 325mm

LARGHEZZA (Da esterno ruota destra a esterno ruota sinistra) circa 310mm

La carrozzeria viene fornita trasparente da tagliare, verniciare e personalizzare.

Payment with credit card: PAYPAL

1 Body 1mm + 1 spoiler + 1 decals = 25,00 euro
1 Body 1,5mm + 1 spoiler + 1 decals = 35,00 euro

Shipment for 1 to 10 bodies = 50,00 euro.

Delta Plastik s.n.c.
Tel. 055-8077364
Fax 055-8050604
www.deltaplastik.it
info@deltaplastik.it

[fritzzz]

How much are 1/8 scale bodies normally? I would have thought that $75 each isn't a bad price. I'd be tempted to tip in at that price.

[slw4red]

How much are 1/8 scale bodies normally? I would have thought that $75 each isn't a bad price. I'd be tempted to tip in at that price.

Bodies for my LST2 and Savage are about $60-ish so....

i just thought about it, it would be $57-ish per body (thats for the 1.5mm) with about $80 Express Postage to Australia, so it is definately worth it, the only reason i'm looking at getting 4 bodies is the postage cost - dont matter if i get 1 or 10 bodies, same price so i'll make it worth it.

BTW all this is in Australia $$$$!!!

[Philster]

In U.S. dollars, a 1/8 clear body of the Kysoho quality and size (these are bigger than the 1/8 race types that fit Proceeds, Serpents and Mugens) should cost at least $45, and I would expect 50-60 to be the LHS price range.

Most 1/8 truck bodies, which look like micro toys next to an Inferno GT body, cost about 30-35 U.S Dollars, and 35-40 if painted.

The Inferno bodies dwarf the monster truck bodies, and are much much better detailed.

[mook]

how much bigger is the gt compared to the landmax?

[CrustyNoodle]

slw4red,

What city do you live in? We might be able to organise a group buy and further lower the shipping cost of those Deltaplastik bodies.

We would just need to be absolutely sure that they fitted the Inferno GT properly - does anyone have any experience fitting these bodies to an Inferno GT?

[supraTT]

This is a great GT thread here! Props to Philster for recomending this forum.
I have too broken my clutch spring after only about 5 tanks..I had to rig it up.
I've also broken the front shock brace twice, but that was my own problem.
Im waiting for somebody to report back on the 15/19 combo.
This car is way too much fun.


Jordan

[meda2ni]

This is a great GT thread here! Props to Philster for recomending this forum.
I have too broken my clutch spring after only about 5 tanks..I had to rig it up.
I've also broken the front shock brace twice, but that was my own problem.
Im waiting for somebody to report back on the 15/19 combo.
This car is way too much fun.


Jordan

So only the cluth spring thats breaks?When I get mine which clutch springs should I replace it with?

Thanks in advance :)

[wallboy]

would the werks racing clutch work? this clutch looks :eek: pretty sick

http://werksracing.com/faq.do?id=3
P.S.im orderng my GT tomorrow!!

[slw4red]

slw4red,

What city do you live in? We might be able to organise a group buy and further lower the shipping cost of those Deltaplastik bodies.

We would just need to be absolutely sure that they fitted the Inferno GT properly - does anyone have any experience fitting these bodies to an Inferno GT?


I'm in Newcastle NSW.

All this talk about bodies..... i destroyed my LST2 body over the weekend :( LOL.
i wish the Kyosho bodies were as thick as the LST2 bodies though, Losi Bodies feel twice as good in hand.


I Contacted Delta about those bodies...

i gave them my GT's Dimensions and they said they rally bodies will fit my car.... (How well i don