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joostin421
01-01-2006, 02:37 PM
i would like to run my 2x lehner 4200's with 2x schulze 18.61k controllers on 12cells.

for example, i know it is possible to run 2x 6cell packs in parallel to run a total of 12cells. is it possible to run both of the controllers sharing 12cells (i.e. running the controllers in parallel)?

thanx,

justin

Mr. Constructor
01-01-2006, 03:39 PM
off course, the escīs will be totally connected to each motor, then use a Y harness for the receiver signal, keep an eye on the bec if needed, only ONE esc has to have the bec on, the other should be turned OUT.

then solder the 2 red wires (one from each esc) to the battery connector you use for the plus connection, do the same with the 2 black wires from each esc.

now the batterys will be connected plus to minus in the middle (to get them in series giving 12 cells ) and then connect the red and black wires from the battery to the Y shaped connector from both esc cables this will connect the batterys in series while connecting the escīs and motors in parallel, keep an eye on those 2 Motor sets, as the rpmīs might differ a bit, check the gear mesh . the motors and the escīs have to be of the same type, but the wires from the esc to the motor should be almost the same too, as the other lenght will reduce the motors rpm a bit itīs very less, but might be recognised when these 2 motors are connected to the same gear tranny !!
(thatīs why even the gear mesh should be the same !!)

Have fun with it !!

joostin421
01-02-2006, 07:36 PM
they are going in my custom wild dagger.

justin

ElectricThunder
01-02-2006, 07:37 PM
This just got me thinking, what would happen if you were to run two ESCs in series? Would you get more voltage or current capacity for just one motor? :confused:

Mr. Constructor
01-03-2006, 01:39 PM
THIS is absolutely impossible, as the induction of the motor is used to "see" the rotor stand for the esc, this having 2 escīs on 1 motor causing problems as many favtors such as wire lenght and others will influence the "reading" thus leading to different Datas on the 2 escīs !!
DO NOT DO IT !!

ducati777
01-03-2006, 02:58 PM
I second that. You can run 2 esc's off 1 battery, but do not run 2 brushless esc's on one motor.

However it could possibly be done on brushed motors, since they don't read the rotor position.

ElectricThunder
01-03-2006, 07:38 PM
I see.... What if you were to splice sensor wires from a sensored motor so that it creates a Y type harness. That would give the ESCs a definite place as to where the rotor would be, correct? Thus, they would be in synchronization with one another? (Don't worry, I'm not going to do this. I'm too busy trying to keep things from breaking on my rusty, mainly diff gears... :rolleyes: ):D

Mr. Constructor
01-04-2006, 05:15 AM
As the finest electric inductance (caused by different lenght or even thickness of the wires) will interfer the system. Itīll be extremely hard to get these two escīs running, itīll be too complicated, use a bigger esc instead will solve the problem too and might be even cheaper !!

SpEEdyBL
01-04-2006, 06:47 PM
And one motor.

Rtsbasic
01-04-2006, 07:54 PM
I believe if you only use one motor in a Wild Dagger you only get 2WD, thus the need for 2 motors/controllers.

Mr. Constructor
01-05-2006, 04:37 AM
If ya wanna use 2 Motors on one esc there is a trick to do so, please search a bit on this forum, as i posted it somewhere how to make it running !! (and i do not know where too, damn !!) ;-)
Be warned itīll be a little hard to work as you really have to work very precisely !!

SpEEdyBL
01-05-2006, 07:08 PM
Don't the motors have to be spinning at the same rpm so each motor is always in the same phase? It looks to me that the front and rear wheels of the Wild Dagger aren't connected.

ElectricThunder
01-05-2006, 07:34 PM
Don't the motors have to be spinning at the same rpm so each motor is always in the same phase? It looks to me that the front and rear wheels of the Wild Dagger aren't connected.
There's two separate gear boxes on wild daggers. So it won't make as much of a difference. :D

Mr. Constructor
01-06-2006, 04:12 AM
But then the rpm will differ a lot more than if the motors are connected to one gearbox !!
Itīs highly recommended to use 2 escīs then, but if it is for a small wild dagger, use 2x 60A versions will be way enough, all my 10th cars are running on up to 60A escīs, some even less (the 2wd pro 10 could even use 40A versions)

ducati777
01-06-2006, 07:11 PM
it won't work with 2 brushless motors, especially since the motors will always be out of phase. Again, if you go brushed, you have no problems. Gah, I hate admitting brushed motors have the advantage here.