View Full Version : savage x problems and advice
savage x
03-15-2006, 01:14 PM
ok so its spur gear number 3 for me now
just got the third one and need advice on how tight i should put the spur gear on and how to mesh gears right pls
the first one totally lost all teeth
the second lost about half its teeth
i dont want my third to lose any so any advice or tips would be great ?
i contacted hpi and told them i had ruined my 2nd spur gear after only half a tank of fuel on flat short grass and they said they'll send me a replacement so at least i'll have a spare but they also told me to stay off of grass
but isnt an offroad 4x4 meant to handle grass mud gravel sand aswell as tarmac/concrete this confused me i can tell you
so wot do you guys think about keeping a savage x 4x4 offroad monster truck off of grass
where and wot surfaces do you guys run on
gsxr310
03-15-2006, 02:12 PM
as far as the grass is concerned, i usually like to break in the spur gear on a flat surface (parking lot/driveway). i want to make sure that all the teeth "mate" to the clutch bell by taking it easy on the throttle (no WOT). I then check every couple of minutes or so to check if there is any wear and tear on the spur gear. if no wear/tear, continue to drive it "easy" for one tank and monitoring the spur gear. after that, start giving it full throttle and continue monitoring the spur gear.......
traxxas_fan101
03-15-2006, 10:20 PM
i like to have my gear mesh as close as possible without it locking up.
hold the clutchbell tight and try to rotate the spur back and fourth, there should only be the tiniest tick of play between the gears
it takes a few tries before its perfect cuz the motor shifts just a little bit when you tighten the screws down but if you take your time to get it right then the spur gear should last a long time
The best advice I heard for keeping the engine from moving once you get it in the right place was to set the mesh (with Paper if you want), tighten down the engine WITHOUT any thread lock. Once you are happy with the mesh, then loosen each screw, one at a time, and apply the thread lock. You will always have the engine tightened down with 3 screws while removing one.
If you put the thread lock on the screws and then it takes 10 minutes of re-adjusting the engine position, you are bound to lose the benefit of the thread lock.
savage x
03-16-2006, 10:39 AM
thanks for your reply's guys
wot do u think bout driving on grass like hpi said i should avoid
i broke the x in on a car park and once the x was up and running right i took a visit to the fields
zakerid
03-16-2006, 06:56 PM
short grass is ok but if the grass reaches the rim...it may cause too much drag
Bunsincunsin
03-16-2006, 07:13 PM
Also if you are going to be running on grass most of the time you can re-gear the truck.
DaveG
03-16-2006, 07:20 PM
Man, I run my Savage SS in 6"-7" of grass all the time and I very seldom have spur gear trouble.
My LST has almost 3 gallons of fuel on the same set of spur gears an my T-Maxx is using the same spur gear it came with (even though it's on it's second engine). I regularly run all three trucks in the grass.
I understand that running in tall grass can be hard on a drive train but to reccomend that a MT not be run in grass is, IMHO, beyond rediculass.
savage x
03-17-2006, 01:11 PM
i totally agree with daveg offroad by its name means offroad no tarmac/concrete
the grass i was on is a few football pitches and the grounds are better in my view then some premiership football grounds i've seen. really short grass and really flat ground
wot are hpi on
bigjames7642
03-24-2006, 10:17 PM
OK, there is one thing that you are forgetting about. Dont forget that the X has DUAL SLIPPER CLUTCH. If the spur gear is screwed on so tight, that the slippers dont do their job, then you are going to strip every single spur gear you ever get. you need to ease up on that big nut holding the spur in place. They need to be able to move. Hence the name, (slipper clutch). And yes, you do need to correct the drive mesh. Once you do that, you should be set. Dont worry about grass, these things are made for anything.
kawasakirider
03-25-2006, 03:10 AM
Put the spur gear on as tight as the screw allows then back it off half a turn then set your mesh
doesgo
03-25-2006, 10:20 AM
I agree, if everything is set right, running in the grass should be NO problem, thousands of us do that on a regular basis.
Ball Racing
03-25-2006, 07:02 PM
I really don't see the slipper being the cause either.
On my old savage, I had the nut as tight as humanly possible, and never hurt and spurs,,
You have to being jumping with the throttle on when it hits the ground, thats when the slipper will dampen the load on the parts.
If you have your slipper set so it slips under acceleraton, your killing the disk, and your putting stress on the engine.