Novak Super Stock

[Helgaiden]

I was looking for brushless systems and found the super stock from novak very appealing for the price. On unlimited RPM mode, what does the power compare to? Its advertised as being a competition stock motor in brushless form but is that in limited RPM mode or unlimited rpm mode? Just want more info on this because im thinking about buying it. For those that race to SoCal who read this, would it be legal to race there in the normal intermediate or sportsman stock classes? (i guess this applies to anyone who races at least lol).

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[Helgaiden]

also, exactly how well does the rpm limiter option work and what does it tone the actual power down to? I really just want to stick with 6 cells and get stock level performance. Throwing motor maintenance and know how out the window would be a HUGE relief for me.

[Lano]

I don't think the super stock (4300) has a rev limiter. I know the 5800 did but this didn't really work all that well since the motor would stutter (cut in and out) when it bumped up against the limiter.

You probably wont be able to run the 4300 in stock as this motor is more powerful than a brushed stock. Our local track runs stock and a seperate 4300 class.

[SS Pede]

Word on the street is that the SS4300 is about as powerful as a 19 turn brushed motor.

[ElectricThunder]

The SS ESC has an RPM limiter (I think it's 24k or about there), but you may not reach it with the 4300 under a load.

I've heard its comparable to a good 19 turn motor as well.

[Helgaiden]

Well since the limiter limits it nearly 25k (rounds to 25k id say) and you say under load it wouldnt reach that, wouldnt that make it comparable to a stocker RPM wise? My monster is dyno'd at 22k RPM (and thats probably under no load as well, but thats at what...5.0v?). I read on an RCCA review of the 4300 that when run with the limiter against the same exact car (down to the setup) and geared down 1 tooth per the instructions (the other car had a reedy MVP), acceleration was smoother but the infield lap times on the 4300 were only .4 seconds ahead of the brushed. Seems like with the limiter its more stock-y than without?

[ElectricThunder]

Well, with the 4300, you can gear higher than a stock motor because there's much more torque on tap. What you'd need to find out is the loaded Kv of the 4300 motor, multiply that by 7.2 volts, and that should give you a rough estimate as to whether or not the limiter will be used. I guesstimate the Kv to be around 3300 under load, so times 7.2, you get 23,760. Doesn't hit the rev limiter. I could be wrong with the loaded number though. So let's put it this way, chances of hitting the rev limiter are lower with the 4300 than with the 5800.:)

.4 seconds can make a huge difference in races (especially drag racing!).

[Helgaiden]

Well i talked to the place where i race at (indoor electric off/onroad race track), and it turns out they would allow the 4300 in the stock class but they would tell the system they use i run brushless, thus the system automatically docks my times to even me out with the rest of the racers. So basically if i do really bad and flip alot, my time will be even worse than not running brushless lol.


Oh well :/

[Lano]

Well i talked to the place where i race at (indoor electric off/onroad race track), and it turns out they would allow the 4300 in the stock class but they would tell the system they use i run brushless, thus the system automatically docks my times to even me out with the rest of the racers. So basically if i do really bad and flip alot, my time will be even worse than not running brushless lol.


Oh well :/

That's why we have a seperate (4300 spec) brushless class and it is becoming very poplular. You might try and see if you can generate enough interest at your track. I'm sure the organizer would add the class if there were enough particpants.

[Helgaiden]

They would add the class, but sometimes there are as little as 3 races (novice buggy, sportsman buggy, and novice truck or inter truck) so generating enough interest to make a 4300 brushless class would be hard. On one race night, the 4wd mod buggies were put into the sportsman stock buggy class (was good competition tbh). Oh well.