Why do people crave so much speed?

[jocktheglide165]

you know I understand to try to be top dogg all the time, but with RC how much speed do want? you cant conrol a 60mph emaxx or a 140mph sedan vehilce, but yet every single time I get on the forums you always hear, "my brother, moms, sister, dads, uncle has a truck that hits 80mph" well ok, but my, "sisters, aunt who died, 2nd uncle had a truck that hit 81.5mph" then its look, "oh" it seems everyone has gotten so personal with their hobbies we cant just congratulate each other for our accomplishments. I say this because I got an email today from someone telling me, "so you think your bad with your HV maxx 4.5 setup emaxx" well I got me a mamba maxx that will tear up your truck it hits 60mph its been clocked by GPS by my friend who is a cop. Im like, "Ok I dont care" Im happy with my XXX speed emaxx..... :)

[Killerush]

Speed is great...but driver skill is 98% of our hobby. I have beaten many guys on the track who could slay me in a straight line. If they learn how to turn I'll stop winning races!! :p

[Jamminmyhead]

Its because they think that if there car goes in a straight line the fastest it is better. Like "My Nitro 4-tec is sooo much better than your crappy FT Associated NTC3, It goes 70!!!!, yours does like 50"

[balang_479]

Yeah, same hear, speed has never really interested me persoanlly, When i tune a car its not for top speed, but acceleration, cornering speed and try to reduce weight for maximum performance around a track.

Sure some cars may be able to hit 100mph but itll take em like 5 minutes to do so, whats cool is that it onyl takes like 2 seconds.

[cnroman]

I myself have never understood the need to overpower a car/truck/buggy, electric or nitro. For me it's all about the handling and driving. 19T Stock electric for me.

[z-man280]

Agreed. Shoot, look at drifting, its about control, not speed, and that is what i like. I have taken a stampede and beat t3's, xxxt's, ect. due to the fact i didnt have to have a 40 mph truck, but common sense to slow down. I watch them pile up in the first corner, drive around, and off i go.
Sure, a fast car/truck is fun, but when its out of range before i blink, it takes the fun out of "watching " the car...keeping it close, and watching and refining your driving skills will always be first in my book.

[Killerush]

I just started this hobby last year, and started racing this summer. I have 4 TQs, 3 wins one 2nd and 2 3rd place finishes(all in 3 races because I run in multiple classes). All because guys have 2 throttle positions, opened and closed and they can't get around the track smoothly. I won my first race with an HPI Nitro Rush Evo, I think that says enough.

[rs4 rally boi]

ill take cornering ability and accelration over top speed any day. if my car hits 50mph im happy. mabey the fasination comes from people having a small car that is capable of being big car fast.

[oldschooler]

hey my TC4 goes about 6-7 MPH while drifting so speed is fun but not in my case>>

[Jayboy]

rush evo...what was your competition then?

[Killerush]

keeping it close, and watching and refining your driving skills will always be first in my book.


I'm trying to teach that to my daughter!! But 13 yr old girls have other plans I guess! :p

[Killerush]

I beat a Losi AD1, Nitro Rustler(highly modified), RC10GT, and another Rustler with and OS .18 CV-R. My track doesn't really have "rules" on what you can do to your truck, I ran a stock Rush with an out of the box OS .12 CV-RX.

[jamesbernatchez]

I just started this hobby last year, and started racing this summer. I have 4 TQs, 3 wins one 2nd and 2 3rd place finishes(all in 3 races because I run in multiple classes). All because guys have 2 throttle positions, opened and closed and they can't get around the track smoothly. I won my first race with an HPI Nitro Rush Evo, I think that says enough.



Yeah it says no body else at your track can drive....cause they only have one hand and a stub on the other arm, or you paid them to let you win :D :p

Speed is always fun but if its undrivable whats the point? I have a Novak 5.5 powered XX4 and will have another by next weekend. Its on the breaking point of too fast for my track! As long as i have throttle control i can hang with the faster guys a bit. Practice makes perfect.

The problem is if your running in say mod 4wd with a 13x2 and im using a Novak 5.5 and can drive the pants off it...well then your in for a stompin'!! :D It all comes down to the driver, tires, and how well the vehicle is setup and how well he can drive it. Faster isnt always better but if your a good driver and can control it then you will be faster than somebody with a slower car....to a degree.

[Killerush]

[QUOTE=jamesbernatchez]Yeah it says no body else at your track can drive....cause they only have one hand and a stub on the other arm, or you paid them to let you win :D :p




Bring it James!! :p If you're ever in Virginia Beach I'd be glad to show you some pointers!!! :D

[Killerush]

And my wife can give you some painting tips!! :D

[microrcdude]

i really dont care how fast my cars go mph wise, just as long as i can keep up with the other people at the track im good!

[jamesbernatchez]

And my wife can give you some painting tips!! :D


:eek: ......That wasnt very nice!!!! :D Yeah, if im ever down your way id love to show you how we North Easterners "Git-R-Done" :p

[Killerush]

Likewise James!!

[___rollin___]

I like having a majorly overpowered truck myself. To an extent though! When i'm pulling wheelies going anything above 30mph, it's MUCH too powerful for any use. Especially in a 2wd truck...
Don't get me wrong though, 40mph is pretty blazing just for messing around the street. Anything above that is pretty insane.

[rs4 rally boi]

im just waiting for the 100mph rtr. i dont understand this phenomenon. i always thought that the rtr was inteded for the people new to rc yet it seems that this is the biggest selling point. with almost every nitro 4-tec they always bragged about how fast they were, and i remeber the schumacher fusion rtr from a while back was advertised at 80mph.

[RCRevolution]

I think its because seeing a 4lb remote controled vehicle go faster then some real cars is exciting.

[TunaCan Charlie]

What guy doesn't like speed?

Okay, I'm married and have one kid and I'm forty. I drive an eight year old Ranger (4 cylinder) and I've never owned a motorcycle.

If my version of a mid-life-crisis involves putting way too much power into a RC vehicle, then I'd say my wife is getting off easy! :D :D :D

[Radio Acer]

I don't understand people's need for speed either. At my local track, the 8th scale buggies have an average speed of not over 20 mph, and the stadium trucks around 17 mph. And it's way more fun to drive and watch these cars then on a track with a straight-a-way 100 yards long and huge sweepers that are 3 yards wide. Now trying to go around a shorter turn fast looks cool, but that requires skill and setup, not to mention,at 25 mph it'll look fast to me.

And Killerush, what on earth is wrong with racing a Nitro Rush? I've raced this thing for 3 seasons and basically dominated the competition. Yes, it did need about $500 worth of option parts, but it works better than any other truck now.
And just in case your wondering, I have an O.S. .15 CV-X...proof that you don't need power to win, like you, and others, said, common sense driving is enough to win...I actually wouldn't want a motor anymore powerful, otherwise it would make driving hard in my opinion.
That's just my 2 cents, cuz i don't like seeing people bash a Rush. I'm not trying to heat things up or start something.

And btw, I visited VA Beach this summer for about the 7th time, beautiful place...I almost envy you (You can't ski there)

[z-man280]

I don't understand people's need for speed either. At my local track, the 8th scale buggies have an average speed of not over 20 mph, and the stadium trucks around 17 mph. And it's way more fun to drive and watch these cars then on a track with a straight-a-way 100 yards long and huge sweepers that are 3 yards wide. Now trying to go around a shorter turn fast looks cool, but that requires skill and setup, not to mention,at 25 mph it'll look fast to me.

And Killerush, what on earth is wrong with racing a Nitro Rush? I've raced this thing for 3 seasons and basically dominated the competition. Yes, it did need about $500 worth of option parts, but it works better than any other truck now.
And just in case your wondering, I have an O.S. .15 CV-X...proof that you don't need power to win, like you, and others, said, common sense driving is enough to win...I actually wouldn't want a motor anymore powerful, otherwise it would make driving hard in my opinion.
That's just my 2 cents, cuz i don't like seeing people bash a Rush. I'm not trying to heat things up or start something.

And btw, I visited VA Beach this summer for about the 7th time, beautiful place...I almost envy you (You can't ski there)
well said.

Back in the day, LONG ago, the T2 was out, and i wanted to race... all i had was a sledgehammer. I put 2.2 stadium truck tires on it, lowered it, and put my novak 410M5 ESC in it, a 12x3 twister motor, and at te time THE battery, a 1700 scrc 7 cell.
one guy actually asked if i wanted him to run backwards so i stood a chance.

IT was shame on 'em!!!! :D

i smoked all of them, won 2 of the 3 qualifiers, ( didnt need to run a 3rd) and the main...Proof positive you dont need the best to win, just the skills.

[Mini-TBasher55]

Having a fast car can be fun. I love messing around with my Mini-T, but sometimes I just crave the speed of a touring car in a parking lot. Being able to handle the speed and doing cool driving tricks is what the hobby is all about for me. Next week, my dad and I are going to Home Depot for wood, and we're gonna make a ramp. I'll try to pull a backflip off it. The fun of the hobby is in driving skill. Some of the most popular parts of the hobby are all about driving skill. Whether it's crawling, drifting, off-road or on-road racing, doing huge jumps, or just trying to make a jump out of a narrow lip in you driveway. While many noobs are obsessed over speed, you'll find that many experienced RC'ers will prefer parts of the hobby that require skill and in some cases (ie. Rock Crawling) actually rely on you going 3-5mph. Every once in a while the speed bug will hit an experienced hobbyist, and he/she will start on a speed project. Nothing is better than a part of the hobby that is all about driving skill.

[Killerush]

And Killerush, what on earth is wrong with racing a Nitro Rush? I've raced this thing for 3 seasons and basically dominated the competition. Yes, it did need about $500 worth of option parts, but it works better than any other truck now.
And just in case your wondering, I have an O.S. .15 CV-X...proof that you don't need power to win, like you, and others, said, common sense driving is enough to win...I actually wouldn't want a motor anymore powerful, otherwise it would make driving hard in my opinion.
That's just my 2 cents, cuz i don't like seeing people bash a Rush. I'm not trying to heat things up or start something.

And btw, I visited VA Beach this summer for about the 7th time, beautiful place...I almost envy you (You can't ski there)


Nothing wrong with the Rush at all, IMO. I just see alot of threads saying it is a poorly made truck. Like my name says, I have a Killer Rush, and nowhere near $500 in hop ups. I have done what was necessary to make it reliable and fast and I love it. It handles better than my Jato 3.3 and is much more predictable. Speed is cool if you can drive it, that was all I was saying.

[Radio Acer]

sorry about that, I did realize that your name is killerush. No harm intended.

[Kuldeep]

Wow.. lol

I just got my first nitro. It hits around 40mph and well its gone before you know it. Its fun showing off around people zoomin back and fourth, but one mistake and you get 5 knuckles in your face lol. I like to drift and peel out hard brakes, but it all kills the tires. Driving around casualy going up and down up to 25-30 mph is fun but gets boring.

Its only fun to run mid speed on a dirtrack. Its not to fast that you cant really see it, but not to slow for people to call u a whimp.

I also race Xmods and my xmod can go about 15 mph on smooth beach parkinglot. Now seeing a car that small run around like that is freakin cool.

Thats me though, im sure everyone has thier own opinion.

[Karadjas]

It's like Colin Chapman once said...
"More power makes you faster on the straight, less weight makes you faster everywhere"

What good is +0.3hp when you run out of straight?

That said, my H7 Pro with Sirio .27 that kills tyres with a vengeance is the most fun I've had in years :D Then again, my left index finger is not that heavy when it needs a delicate touch. Power is nothing without control - Pirelli :D

[Mini-TBasher55]

It's like Colin Chapman once said...
"More power makes you faster on the straight, less weight makes you faster everywhere"

What good is +0.3hp when you run out of straight?

That said, my H7 Pro with Sirio .27 that kills tyres with a vengeance is the most fun I've had in years :D Then again, my left index finger is not that heavy when it needs a delicate touch. Power is nothing without control - Pirelli :D
AMEN

[Neon_Dave]

:D Very well put.

Remember, the faster you go, the bigger you wreck :D With some of the utterly insane speeds some cars (RTR's included) can reach, that means BIG wrecks, and the perfection of the infamous "wallet reach" manouver :p

Don't get me wrong, I'm a sucker for speed as much as the next guy, but if it can't handle at ____ speed it's capable of, then it's not worth going that fast... I think it's always a must to have a certain balance between speed and cornering.

I like that my Micro RS4 is capable of speeds of at least 25 mph (:D I'm just guessing, but it's insanely fast for a micro), but with my current setup it also handles very, very well when I need it to (with the exception of turning at WOT :D - quite surprising what kind of speed a 6-cell IB1400 pack + Orion BigBlock is capable of)

I completely agree, speed is fun. But speed also takes it's toll on your car. Think shredded gears, worn drivetrain parts, and treaded tires becoming bald drifter-slicks in a matter of a few runs :D .

Being able to handle the speed and doing cool driving tricks is what the hobby is all about for me.

One of the other things I like about speed is the whole aspect of having to play around with aerodynamics to get cars to handle at those speeds :D

Here's how I look at it:

Money = Speed
Speed = Fun
Speed = Crash

= Wallet mysteriously empties itself

And a famous quote by my dad ;)

"Crashes are inevitable in RC. The faster you go, the sooner they'll happen, and the more speed you add, the quicker you race to reach that inevitable crash." :D

[Tamiya4ever]

Actually I never was into speed. A stock silver can motor is fine for me.

[bensb4]

well to throw in my 2 cents ive raced stock to spec to mod and now back to spec permanantly.19 turn spec seems to be a good speed for me as my reaction time is better for those drivers that tumble in walls and spread there parts all over.

bashing i prefer a 17x2 for a open area and my street.there wasnt really anything i could do with a brushless system going that fast but straight back n fourth(boring)

[guver]

My take on speed (first hand knowledge) is that is something in your blood, It's been there as long as I can remember. Motorcycles, snomobiles, cars, trucks, tractors. Power and speed. I've never been on a race track, but have always enjoyed getting top speed out of something even to the detriment of handling. I'm lucky I haven't gotten killed, and thankfuly find RC satifies this need without anyone getting hurt.

With me it has alway been power and speed and low cost, It's ALWAYS there haunting me and RC is no different , same story as the other stuff. Gear higher and make more power for less money, I think it is a syndrome,.

[GT Freak]

im happy with my stock maxx's
one offroad :)
one onroad(current project) :cool:

[Eli the rc guy]

Well...... For me It has always been handeling and trying to take the turn perfectly. I've been useing a 19 turn in my XXX-S for like a year now, and I think im guan get into drifting very very soon. So that kinda eliminates the handeling part. And becasue Of my set up I need a more powerfull motor = Higher top speed & acceleration.. But since I dont race (at all!!) I think that all I can do to have some fun is to get some high top speed and drift around like a dude that is just havein some fun. Eventualy Ill get used to the intence High Speeds and then I'll lknow how to controlle the car. So to me going faster is like another lvl in a game. Every lvl is a new challenge and new experience.... and I think I'll ceep going higher and higher untill I've reached the point when I dont want to go any higher, my "Maxx" and I think I might reach it when I get the 4.5 brushless volectic with the GTB from Novak... So untill then I'll ceep trying to perfect the handeling with a 19 turn.

[blktransam]

speed speed speed its all i care about..being only 20 and having built 2, 10 second daily drivers since I was 16 doesnt help in my r/c world lol I have 1 dark thunder dragster with a .21 jammed in it and a stock one for others to drive, as we'll as 2 schumacher xtr3e's which are INSAINLEY fast outta the box then with a little engine p&p and siff tires and shocks what have you its even faster and handles 10 times better then in stock form...but yes I have my "slower" side my LST with mach .26 but I also run 50% in it and its a freakin power house and wheelies going into 2nd gear even!! VERY FUN to drive non the less...but then I have my racing truck losi xxx-nt not geard for top speed as our local dirt track is pretty tight and only one short straight in it...we'll now i'm married and have a youngin on the way 2 more mths so then my r/c will slow down a touch when money doesnt allow it but I make decent money and so does my wife also both our cars are paid for so that helps lol...anyways back on track speed is fun u say u dont like speed we'll without it u wouldnt be able to get very high-far on any jump at ur local track or bash spot....

[highroller]

It's a guy thing, it's deep rooted in us all in someway. No matter what is house, car, family etc we compete against each other in some way. We've just gotta be better. That comes to our RC Toys, it's gotta be bigger, louder, better and faster even if it's a grown man against young person. To see a grown man call a RC10 a piece of junk because a kid beat him, go to the hobby shop buy a new kit, radio, battery, motors and still get beat it's funny in a way.

What to see tempers flair, attend some big organized races sometimes even some club racing. Although most have not come down to physical contact, I guess at one ROAR event that did occur. Then in some instances where you've invested years, and thousands of dollars in equipment it's not a game any longer.

Yeah sometimes family and jobs can put a crimp in things.