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MikeBusch2
09-16-2006, 02:23 AM
There is no comparison......



Seriously though, the only thing the GTB/5.5r has over the MM5700 system is it has quite a bit more punch from a stand-still while mashing the throttle. After about 6 inches of movement though, the Mamba Max system is right where the GTB/5.5r is, if not more so. This must be the "advantage" of a sensored system. Here's my setup:

Novak xxx-t
Mamba Max 5700
Novak GTB 5.5r
Orion 4800 Lipo
dirt hawg tires (bald, unfortunately, speed hawgs on the way)
14t pinion

Within 10 minutes, the Novak system would thermal. The esc was cool, but the motor was hot enough to fry bacon. You could touch it and immediately have white burn marks on your fingers, it got that hot. The motor plate was too hot to touch, the pinion could likely melt solder. The lipo was moderately warm, and the wires were pretty hot.

Now, the mamba max system, I can run it until the lipo dumps, and still hold the motor can in my hand. The battery is room temperature, and no noticable heat in the wires. It's incredible how much more efficient this system is than the novak.

Now, consider the mindlessly easy way to program the Mamba Max system, it's 100% clear which one is the better buy. I almost feel silly now suggesting Mamba Max was simply just the flavor of the week. Keep up the good work Castle Creations!

-Mike

MikeBusch2
09-16-2006, 04:18 AM
Just upped the pinion to a 16t, and it's just barely getting warm. After I receive my speed-hawgs, I could probably gear it up to 18t without a problem, due to the smaller tire diameter.

TheSteve
09-16-2006, 04:29 AM
Have you tried changing the start power levels on the Max? I'm wondering if you can get the initial takeoff to match the Novak.

MikeBusch2
09-16-2006, 05:11 AM
You know, I did bump it up a level, but didn't max it out. I'll give that a try and report my findings tomorrow.

slink
09-16-2006, 10:01 AM
Mike

The flavor of the week is quite delicious isnt it! Lol

Happy to hear you gave the mamba max a fair chance.

MikeBusch2
09-16-2006, 02:33 PM
I maxed the start power level, and I'd say it's about 85% what the novak had, which is incredible due ot the sensorless design. I just ran what had to be 20 minutes on my lipo. It's really nice not to have thermal shutdown in the middle of your fun.

t44ever
09-16-2006, 03:29 PM
What kind of speed are you getting out of it?

MikeBusch2
09-16-2006, 03:39 PM
Fast enough to be scary. I'd estimate 45ish. The looks on peoples faces when they're being passed on the road by a little r/c car is priceless.

Shawn Palmer
09-18-2006, 12:15 AM
Welcome to real high power brushless Mike!

Excellent to see the head to head action reported here. Castle has never dealt in hype at all - we prefer to let the performance and the users experiences do all the talking for us :-)

Keep on gearing it up if you can stand for your grin to get bigger and bigger...
Shawn

MikeBusch2
09-18-2006, 12:24 AM
Good to see ya Shawn! I'll gear it up after I get my new tires. My dirt hawgs are bald, and those things had killer knobs on 'em. You guys do great work, thanks!!!