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zakerid
11-02-2006, 05:01 PM
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Latest from www.hpiracing.com

Have you ever experienced the excitement of a monster truck rally? Here's your chance to bring that excitement home! HPI is proud to announce the release of our newest addition to our electric monster truck line, The Wheely King! As the name would imply the Wheely King is designed with the wheelie in mind, perfect wheelie-tuned weight distribution and rear wheelie bar allows you to pull an all day wheelie and also bash with the best of them.

Realistic looks add to the monster truck experience with features like Tough TVP (Twin Vertical Plate) chassis with tube frame design. Front and rear solid axles with pivot arms and center gear box also add to the realistic driving experience and scale looks. Included in the package are realistic chrome wheels and new 5.4" Mud Thrasher tires, and an adjustable design that makes mounting your choice of bodies quick and easy. The 1/12th scale size of the Wheely King is perfectly suited for the back yard basher with features such as 4 long stroke oil-filled shocks and coil springs with 6" of suspension travel for all-terrain driving, adjustable gear mesh that allows a variety of gear ratios, flexible drivetrain layout allows for the use of all popular 7.2 volt batteries and 540 size motors. The simple and durable design of the Wheely King allows for ease of maintenance and the ability to soak up almost any kind of abuse you can throw at it.

Highlights

1/12th scale size is perfect for backyard driving.
True-to-scale monster truck looks.
Designed for easy maintenance and durability.
Full Ball bearings for efficiency and long run time.
Includes

TF-1 High quality 27MHz transmitter
Fully proportional steering and throttle
Reversible electronic speed control
High torque 540 motor (27T)
7.2V 1500mAh Ni-Cd battery
Clip-on molded nylon cover for gear protection
Full Ball bearings for efficiency and long run time
Quick-change battery slot
Efficient sliding center universal drive shaft
Wall charger (120V)

Accepts popular 7.2V batteries, 540 size motors, and standard size electronics…
Easy to customize!
Clip-on molded nylon cover for gear protection.
Adjustable design makes mounting new bodies quick and easy.
Adjustable gear mesh allows a variety of gear ratios.
Electric powered for quiet, safe and easy operation.
Wheelie-tuned weight distribution and rear wheelie bar make wheelies fun and easy!
4 long stroke oil-filled shocks and coil springs.
Quick-change battery slot holds the 7.2V stick pack securely.
6" of suspension travel for all-terrain driving.
Tough TVP (Twin Vertical Plate) chassis with tube frame design.
Efficient sliding center universal drive shaft.
Front and rear solid axles with pivot arms and center gear box for realistic driving and scale looks.
Realistic chrome wheels and 5.4" Mud Thrasher tires.

Because the Wheely King is 1/12th size, it's smaller than the 1/10th size E-Savage and it's just as fun! The Wheelie King can be easily driven indoors because of its smaller size, but it's also perfect for fun in the garden and even out on the racetrack!

LENGTH: 431.8mm (17in.)
WIDTH: 297.2mm (11.7in.)
HEIGHT: 254mm (10in.)
WHEELBASE: 238.8mm (9.4in.)
TIRES: 135mm x 69mm (5in. x 3in.)
SUSPENSION TRAVEL: 152.4mm (6in.)

Option parts already available:
http://www.hpiracing.com/options/en/10820.html

#10820 WHEELY KING RTR TRUCK with MINI GT-1 TRUCK BODY EAN #4944258108209 $335.00

4DMNYC
11-02-2006, 05:02 PM
Nice find :winner: :wow: Looks like it could be really fun.

zakerid
11-02-2006, 05:04 PM
yeah... its 2wd but looks like 4wd is possible.

cnroman
11-02-2006, 06:16 PM
Verrrrrrry nice HPI!

evst 360
11-02-2006, 07:08 PM
cooooooooooooooooool!!!!! :cool: :cool: :cool: xmas is coming up... ;) :D
looks a little like a stampede a though...

xfusion
11-02-2006, 09:01 PM
looks like the only thing that you can really do with this is wheelies and flip over while doing semi-sharp turns at low speeds.

z-man280
11-02-2006, 09:31 PM
1/12th scale as well....

* sigh*...another gimmic, but it doesnt look worth a hill of beans for anything but wheelies and mock car crushing...as xfusion stated.

Prelude14WRX
11-02-2006, 11:10 PM
looks pretty cool, nice to have something different come out :)

hijacker
11-02-2006, 11:11 PM
I dunno. I thought the point was to keep the wheels on the ground. Maybe thats just the racer in me talking.

RCRevolution
11-03-2006, 12:21 AM
OMG HPI released a MT with out the name Savage on it

this deserves a standing ovation, cmon everyone get on your feet and clap!

4wdmt
11-03-2006, 01:49 AM
I am standing and clapping :D .

The chassis is kinda remind me of the Tamiya Trail Master, which is also a 2wd truck.

balang_479
11-03-2006, 03:22 AM
awesome machine i like it

Killerush
11-03-2006, 07:36 AM
Looks like HPI is trying to sqeeze in on the Stampedes market. Altough the 'Pede is considered 1/10 scale they look really close in size. The new XL-5 'Pede is also tough to keep the front wheels down.

one
11-03-2006, 08:28 AM
That steering link would break before you had a chance to kill the first battery pack.

shadowghost1
11-03-2006, 09:23 AM
Why 1/12th scale?

fastharry
11-04-2006, 07:46 AM
didn't kyosho also try this with the wheelie cars?(a big flop,I might add.....).....what the hell is HPI thinking about?...

awnelson
11-04-2006, 09:07 AM
fastharry, it must have been a big flop... you still remember it. I think the whole reason for having a basher is to bash it. If you drove the wild willy or bolink little red wagon normal, you could maneuver it where ever you wanted to go. It would only pull wheelies when you gassed it. I would have to believe that this will operate the same way. The big difference is that the HPI will be able to be converted to 4wd/4ws whereas it takes too much time and money to do so with a stampede. I think that the market can support many new products as long as they are an improvement on an old idea or it becomes something that you absolutely have to have. I for one will absolutely have to have a 4wd/4ws solid axle basher that doesn't put the servo on the axle for steering, has parts support and can be modified and configured to make it fun to run. I would suspect that might be what HPI is thinking about.

4wdmt
11-04-2006, 11:35 AM
My only concern if this is made into 4wd. How much do you need to gear down just not to overload the single stock motor and esc. Maybe thats the reason they released it 2wd only.

awnelson
11-04-2006, 01:20 PM
Since it has enough power to pull wheelies on command, I would assume it would safely turn the other two wheels without much more load since it is already having to move them anyway. As far as releasing as a 2WD for now, it is nothing short of a marketing gimmick called "S-Maxx" - "Oh and by the way, for another $100 or so you can convert to 4WD and 4WS", and maybe even the two speed tranny that wouldn't be too hard to add.

4wdmt
11-04-2006, 03:05 PM
^ True. In the end, The S-Maxx with all the upgrades is worth MORE than the T-Maxx, lol.

fastharry
11-04-2006, 05:03 PM
fastharry, it must have been a big flop... you still remember it. I think the whole reason for having a basher is to bash it. If you drove the wild willy or bolink little red wagon normal, you could maneuver it where ever you wanted to go. It would only pull wheelies when you gassed it. I would have to believe that this will operate the same way. The big difference is that the HPI will be able to be converted to 4wd/4ws whereas it takes too much time and money to do so with a stampede. I think that the market can support many new products as long as they are an improvement on an old idea or it becomes something that you absolutely have to have. I for one will absolutely have to have a 4wd/4ws solid axle basher that doesn't put the servo on the axle for steering, has parts support and can be modified and configured to make it fun to run. I would suspect that might be what HPI is thinking about.


I agree if they come out with the 4wd/st option..or if this is a pre runner to a crawler...

Adanmtxt1
11-04-2006, 09:25 PM
I just bought an XL-5 Stampede this past August, so I will not be getting one of these, but it looks like a bunch of fun. True bashing, like awnelson stated, is great fun. Wheelies can be had, but only if you want them, so steering is still acceptable. I hope this jumps well, though. Independent suspension tends to make it easier to absorb impacts, while straight-axle trucks like my TXT-1 tend to be a little harsher. This is definitely different, though! Good job, HPI, I just want to see it run.

awnelson
11-04-2006, 10:12 PM
^ True. In the end, The S-Maxx with all the upgrades is worth MORE than the T-Maxx, lol.

Worth more or costs more?

4wdmt
11-05-2006, 02:09 AM
Sorry, my bad. It will cost more.

Knowing HPI, they will release a build it yourself version (I hope). I dont know if I missed it, anyone with info about the specs of the jolt esc?

fastharry
11-05-2006, 08:04 AM
and how is this thing going to be a good basher(climber,etc..as it shows on HPI's web site),when it's designed for WHEELIES?....

I can't believe this...it makes more sense to make toys than race cars?...

IRELAND
11-05-2006, 08:12 AM
That steering link would break before you had a chance to kill the first battery pack.

and thats a fact lol

rc_racer67
11-05-2006, 06:34 PM
you could easily re-distribute more weight to the front to stop the wheelies.

chris1
11-07-2006, 05:44 PM
when is the truck comeing out

electro21
11-07-2006, 05:56 PM
HPI said all you have to do is buy the diff gears the front drive shaft to convert this to 4wd. this vehicle gets is option parts mostly from the Nitro MT2. it should be available in 3-6 weeks. I plan on getting one especially since they are only $189 RTR. It's actually 3/4 of an inch longer than a stampede, but the wheelbase is about 1/2 to 3/4 of an inch shorter.

RControl Freak
11-07-2006, 06:36 PM
you can't get a much more stock look than that!

evst 360
11-07-2006, 08:00 PM
when is the truck comeing out Probably soon, in time for black friday/xmas rush. 'tis the season for new stuff! :D :D

Joose
11-09-2006, 04:30 AM
Man to be honest this is nothing compared to what HPI are capable of.They are good engineers and this is just "good" compared to what they have done and can do.

JEEL
11-09-2006, 06:27 PM
Wheelie King!!! These names are truly getting out of control. Is this a hobby or just toys for little kids?

Maybe it is time to find a hobby suitable for all ages as this is getting embarrassing.

Akura2
11-09-2006, 06:51 PM
From my buddy at HPI:

"4WD is on the way. You could make is 4WD yourself by just adding a front diff (same as the rear) and drive-shafts (same as the rear). The 2wd version is us trying to keep the costs down for now. Video should be up soon…keep checking the site"

I for one love the scale looks of the truck.. I don't like truggies, for instance, because they are goofy-looking... I like this one and I LOVE the Trophy Truck from ThunderTech Racing...

I see nothing wrong with a company like HPI releasing a more toy-like hobby quaity vehicle... Tamiya had the Wild Willy and the Willy's Wheeler... every major company has done some "fun-only" vehicle... but I'm sure this one can be upgraded into a crawler (solid axles) or a race truck (change the shock angles tires, and motor and beef up the drivetrain)

Besides how many people have seen a post on here or ANY forum about how powerful their truck is and how it can pull wheelies... now everyone that wants to pull wheelies, can.

Don't buy it if you don't like it... you all are indivuals and are entitled to your own control over yor purchases..

I'm sacvng for the Trophy Truck or the 1/8 Serpent F1... but that's me... If I come up with an "extra" $180 then I may actually get this one myself

Tamiya4ever
11-09-2006, 09:12 PM
I do agree with you Akura. HPI should make something like the Thunder Tech baja truck, and a electric 1/10 or 1/12 scale version of the Baja 5. But this truck is nice indeed.

chris1
11-09-2006, 09:30 PM
maybe a 4ws kit will come out too

evst 360
11-09-2006, 10:33 PM
Man to be honest this is nothing compared to what HPI are capable of.They are good engineers and this is just "good" compared to what they have done and can do.
I think they are appealing to newbies. HPI has done a lot of "expert" cars, and this might draw more people into the hobby, giving HPI more business ;)

traxxas_fan101
11-10-2006, 12:58 AM
could be a more cost effective platform to build a crawler from

NitroTXT1
11-10-2006, 04:07 AM
it looks like it'll be a good platform for custom trucks i would like to make a mudder out of it....4wd of course

Old_School_RC_1
11-10-2006, 06:13 AM
All i can say is AWESOME JOB HPI - I have been waiting for a unique single motor monster truck (tired of charging 2 batteries all the time, having to buy 2 motors, etc) that can do some serious bash duty. Since there are no tracks within 50 miles of where i live, there's no point in getting exited about another truggy, or yet another 2wd drive stadium truck - they are great for what they are, and i have a few for when i get out to the track, but i'm looking for some backyard, in the woods, in the mud fun - not a low slung racer. I was about to buy the newest incarnation of the Stampede, but this is going to get my $$ instead - very original, outside the box thinking, and i love that it has 4wd potential. It looks scale with the chassis and solid axles, looks tough, and has lots of potential to upgrade and tinker - i love it!

Old_School_RC_1
11-10-2006, 06:15 AM
Oh, and i have been in the hobby for 18 years, have 34 vehicles, and i cannot wait to get this - this is not just for the "newbies.." it's for the fun factor in all of us. :)

electro21
11-10-2006, 08:26 AM
Oh, and i have been in the hobby for 18 years, have 34 vehicles, and i cannot wait to get this - this is not just for the "newbies.." it's for the fun factor in all of us. :)

I couldn't have said it better myself. This is in direct competition with the stampede, but i personally don't see how the stampede has a chance with this. I'll make it 4wd, put a 27t in it when the original one goes bad, and a duratrax ESC and beat my truck.

fastharry
11-10-2006, 08:34 AM
after a few days rest and relaxation,Ive decided that the scale looks,and the 4wd option,save the truck in my eyes.....plus I talked to the guys at HPI...and they said it is drivable W/O pulling wheelings all the time....so this might be a good one to play/bash/crawl with......

mines ordered...

electro21
11-10-2006, 08:38 AM
i wish i could go ahead an order mine, but the wiff does want an anniversay/X-mas gift!

awnelson
11-10-2006, 08:55 AM
You definately should do what the wiff wants.

Combatcm
11-10-2006, 09:24 AM
It's great that they mounted the steering servo in the center of the chassis to keep it dry.

I hope the ring gears are pretty strong, it would make a nice mudder

TC4RACER
11-10-2006, 10:15 AM
OK, I think it is rear wheel drive to make it do wheelies easily.......... once that extra diff is up front i think the wheels will stay on the ground

syxxstring
11-10-2006, 10:14 PM
Kinda reminds me of the concept of the Big Bear from back in the day. They were a lot of fun for bashing.
I really wish Marui would rerelease the bear.

twisted
11-11-2006, 12:39 AM
Kinda reminds me of the concept of the Big Bear from back in the day. They were a lot of fun for bashing.
I really wish Marui would rerelease the bear.


the big bear was my 1st mt and everyone else's for that matter. it was the first mt...
anyhow im not even sure Marui is around anymore.

Kden46
11-11-2006, 02:23 AM
I have seen some Marui Big Bears on the bay. They used to race them here back in the day to.

back to topic now ;)

My first MT was a Lunchbox ;) I think the scale look of the Wheely King is a lot better!hehe

Should be interesting to see what this thing can take?

EvaderRacer76
11-11-2006, 08:42 PM
YESSSSSSS!!!!!! This is exactly what i've been looking for! I wanted a Stampede for awhile now, because I always found myself raising up my ST's to make them look more like monster trucks, but this truck has excellent scale looks and the 4wd potential is awesome! I actually saw a Radioshack truck today at someones house and I thought, "whoah, that truck looks cool just because it looks scale....too bad it's a RS though..." But now this truck is perfect! I can't wait to run over my TC4 :D

Thank you HPI for giving us another option against the Stampede or TLT or PTI.

ricrush
11-12-2006, 12:26 AM
I myself cant wait for this truck to come out. I would like to put one on backorder. I love the look and am so curious to see what its all about. I started in this hobby in 85 and am past the newbie stage (I think) This truck will be very welcome with the others that I have.

fastharry
11-12-2006, 03:21 PM
I wonder if they're gonna have 4ws...(optional)...

and I'll tell you what I do like...its gonna use the rs4 gear diffs(finally a reason to be happy that HPI uses their parts bins for new cars)....that means HD duty diffs,,,,,,means brushless motors,,,,,,means no BLOWN diffs (like LOSI's POS's....)

rs4 rally boi
11-12-2006, 07:15 PM
i havnt been into electric for a while, but it looks like i have a reason to get back in now. very nice.

fifiracing
11-13-2006, 04:20 PM
Any idea when they will start having 'em in stock? Tower doesn't seem to have 'em yet.

EvaderRacer76
11-13-2006, 07:48 PM
I just noticed that HPI even incorporated two slots in the battery tray for the use of Orion's Lipo batteries: http://www.hpiracing.com/graphics/kits/10820/upclose/wheelyk_43.jpg

RCMTracer
11-13-2006, 08:06 PM
Looks like the "wheelie bar" is just a skid. C'mon HPI, where are the bearings and wheels?

Natedog
11-14-2006, 02:49 PM
Knowing HPI, they will release a build it yourself version (I hope)...

A kit would be awesome!

Thad Garner
11-14-2006, 05:19 PM
Looks like the "wheelie bar" is just a skid. C'mon HPI, where are the bearings and wheels?

It’s actually a roller not a skid :wave:

metalry101
11-14-2006, 07:07 PM
I wonder if they're gonna have 4ws...(optional)...

and I'll tell you what I do like...its gonna use the rs4 gear diffs(finally a reason to be happy that HPI uses their parts bins for new cars)....that means HD duty diffs,,,,,,means brushless motors,,,,,,means no BLOWN diffs (like LOSI's POS's....)
What's with the brand bashing? You talk like HPI has never had any problems with their cars. Losi cars blow diffs? What? The Mini-LST has some problems when you run lots of horsepower, and that's it. HPI never did any problems with the Savage's diffs...nah...people weren't mixing Kyosho and Ofna parts in with the HPI parts to try to get them to hold up. Nah...HPI is perfect.

Old_School_RC_1
11-14-2006, 07:25 PM
The diffs should hold up ok unless you put some crazy horsepower in there. Which is entirely possible. :) One of my more fun cars is a King blackfoot with brushless power...it's way overpowered, doesn't turn at all, but wow is it fun! I can see lot of the same fun in this truck.

Then, if you like to do some custom building or create something unique, this is a great alternative to the TLT style crawler trucks - it is already begging for a 4 link system and 4-wd. Add in the adjustable grearing, tube (look) chassis - perfect.

devius1985
11-14-2006, 10:30 PM
Sorry to be off topic, I'm sure other Team Losi products are of high quality, but within three and sometimes even two packs, either the front or rear diff in my Mini LST will blow out. And that's with stock motors and battery. Back on topic this truck looks really good. Great hop up and custom potential.

fastharry
11-15-2006, 06:25 AM
What's with the brand bashing? You talk like HPI has never had any problems with their cars. Losi cars blow diffs? What? The Mini-LST has some problems when you run lots of horsepower, and that's it. HPI never did any problems with the Savage's diffs...nah...people weren't mixing Kyosho and Ofna parts in with the HPI parts to try to get them to hold up. Nah...HPI is perfect.

at least they fixed them....

I'm just going on what I see night in,night out, at my (2 doors down) local hobby shop....Losi products give the most problems with quality of any product...and their fixes fix nothing...

now back to HPI....

RCMTracer
11-15-2006, 06:38 PM
It’s actually a roller not a skid :wave:

Oops! my bad
By the way good work over at HPI R&D development / product testing! :o

fifiracing
11-16-2006, 09:59 PM
I'm def. getting one of these, looks like there are endless upgrades that will be ready for this bad boy. Might get some dirty danglers as my first upgrade:)

RControl Freak
11-18-2006, 07:02 PM
dude, they need to make some scale monster truck bodies, such as grave digger or, big foot! They'd look freakin awesome on this thing!

z-man280
11-18-2006, 08:53 PM
dude, they need to make some scale monster truck bodies, such as grave digger or, big foot! They'd look freakin awesome on this thing!
i agree about 3000000%!!! if they did, i might be tempted to grab one..especially with the option to easily do a 4WS on demand, and 4WD

Petox20
11-19-2006, 11:51 AM
I can just picture myself driving this! ( :driving: )

RControl Freak
11-19-2006, 01:58 PM
Is the chassis plastic or aluminum rods?

metalry101
11-19-2006, 02:04 PM
Is the chassis plastic or aluminum rods?
It looks plastic to me.

evst 360
11-19-2006, 02:11 PM
yea, it looks plastic, but I find it hard to believe that it would be strong enough.

metalry101
11-19-2006, 02:12 PM
I bet it will work pretty well. HPI is known for durable materials and designs. If it's not, I'm sure the aftermarket will have something better along pretty quickly, and I can assure you, if the truck has durability problems, I'll let everyone know. I plan on picking one of these up the day they come in, and I'll probably be running a lot more horsepower than stock.

evst 360
11-19-2006, 02:19 PM
I plan on picking one of these up the day they come in, and I'll probably be running a lot more horsepower than stock.
What do you plan on using?

metalry101
11-19-2006, 02:22 PM
What do you plan on using?
I'll run it stock to see how it is, but if that's not enough, I might rob the Super Rooster out of my Stampede and put whatever mod I can find in it to see what it can really handle. Or maybe I'll just ask Visa for an early Christmas present and buy myself a Castle Creations 5700 BL. Between my E-Zilla, my Stampede, and the Wheely King, I'm pretty sure it'd get some quality usage.

evst 360
11-19-2006, 02:29 PM
I'll run it stock to see how it is, but if that's not enough, I might rob the Super Rooster out of my Stampede and put whatever mod I can find in it to see what it can really handle. Or maybe I'll just ask Visa for an early Christmas present and buy myself a Castle Creations 5700 BL. Between my E-Zilla, my Stampede, and the Wheely King, I'm pretty sure it'd get some quality usage.
Ya, a 5700 Wheely King would be something to see :D :cool:

metalry101
11-19-2006, 02:32 PM
Ya, a 5700 Wheely King would be something to see :D :cool:
Yep, definately! :D

I plan on buying one to try in all of my trucks. I know it will work great in the Stampede, I'm confident that it will work well in the Wheely King...I'm just not sure how it will work in the E-Zilla. It can handle up to 12 cells...but I'm thinking the new 4600 system might be better for that truck so that I'm not pushing the RPM limits and straining the motor so much. It's not a light truck.

RControl Freak
11-19-2006, 02:34 PM
I was just about to say that! :D

B4 Stealth
11-21-2006, 06:24 AM
why dont you just wait for mamba's/CC's monster series brushless?

knotted
11-21-2006, 07:00 AM
The monster maxx has been in design for over 2 years now. I remember discussing it on the old maxxtraxx forum. Don't look for it anytime soon.

RControl Freak
11-21-2006, 07:31 PM
Next week: New Products Mamba Monster MAXX Revealed! (AT LAST!!!!) :D

fifiracing
11-22-2006, 12:35 PM
Why is the Wheely King listed as an 1/12th scale when it's 3/4 longer than the Traxxas 'pede ?

redbarton
11-22-2006, 06:51 PM
I wish HPI would put up a video of this thing on their site! I'd really like to see it in action.

metalry101
11-22-2006, 10:32 PM
I wish HPI would put up a video of this thing on their site! I'd really like to see it in action.
As would I, but I'd rather just drive it. Hopefully it'll ship soon.

deadwillrise
11-22-2006, 11:55 PM
if it can also be 4wd i wonder how sick this thing could be if it was converted into a crawler

RControl Freak
11-23-2006, 12:54 AM
yeah, we do need a video, this thing looks freakin awesome! :D

4wdmt
11-23-2006, 01:29 AM
no video, no purchase!

metalry101
11-23-2006, 01:51 AM
no video, no purchase!
Come down here and film mine. I've got two digicams that take awesome videos...I just need a camera man. I'll try to find one when these come out, and I'll get some footage of my Stampede, E-Maxx, and E-Zilla in it as well for some comparison footage! :D

RControl Freak
11-24-2006, 09:52 AM
HPI is usually pretty good about providing videos

redbarton
11-27-2006, 02:15 PM
Still no video on their site, but I found this (http://www.hpiracing.com/products/en/10510.html ) instead. Not my cup of tea, but it's a nice addition to their lineup.

RControl Freak
11-27-2006, 05:54 PM
nice find, though! I bet that we'll see a thread about that one soon enough! :D

R/C Kid
11-27-2006, 06:57 PM
I am gonna be getting one of these after xmas to convert into a crawler plan to put in a mamba brushless just for the PC interface option and convert it to 4wd/4ws we'll hafta see how it turns out but I have alot of ideas especially to mod the suspension. So far I am planning to at least extend the wheelbase and replace to stock frame with something metal but other than that not sure.

MattHiggins
11-27-2006, 10:03 PM
Drove the Wheely King today--a lot. Plan on driving it a lot tomorrow, too. Guess what? It's a lot of fun. To me, the Wheely King is the perfect combination of a Tamiya Wild Willy and a Traxxas Stampede.

Akura2
11-27-2006, 11:15 PM
Why is the Wheely King listed as an 1/12th scale when it's 3/4 longer than the Traxxas 'pede ?


um... maybe because it's 1/12 the size if a "real" monster truck...


that would probably be the logical guess

4wdmt
11-27-2006, 11:44 PM
Combination of WW and 'pede. Looks loads of fun. Does this mean its coming out real soon?

comparison pics will be nice.

metalry101
11-28-2006, 12:11 AM
Combination of WW and 'pede. Looks loads of fun. Does this mean its coming out real soon?

comparison pics will be nice.
I believe it's supposed to ship December 1st.

And as for those comparison pics, I'll get a group shot of my E-Zilla, E-Maxx, Stampede, and Wheely King just as soon as I bring that bad boy home.

R/C Kid
11-28-2006, 12:15 AM
I work at a hobby shop and the ship date the distributors are giving us is around December 15th so you should see them hit the shelves around that date.

metalry101
11-28-2006, 12:40 AM
Next week: New Products Mamba Monster MAXX Revealed! (AT LAST!!!!) :D
Where'd you get this information? I'm not seeing anything new on Castle's website at all. I'm waiting for this system for my E-Maxx and would love to hear any information you've got about this system.

RControl Freak
11-28-2006, 05:04 PM
uh, sorry, i was being sarcastic responding to someone's post that had said that that brushless hadn't come out for a while! Sorry for the confusion! :o

metalry101
11-28-2006, 07:17 PM
uh, sorry, i was being sarcastic responding to someone's post that had said that that brushless hadn't come out for a while! Sorry for the confusion! :o
Ahh...I'm just a little slow apparently.

zakerid
11-28-2006, 08:32 PM
Drove the Wheely King today--a lot. Plan on driving it a lot tomorrow, too. Guess what? It's a lot of fun. To me, the Wheely King is the perfect combination of a Tamiya Wild Willy and a Traxxas Stampede.
sounds like a winner... thanks for the input.

RControl Freak
11-28-2006, 09:14 PM
now THAT is a promising combo!

DrKucho
11-29-2006, 03:43 PM
does anyone have it already?

i would like to know the axle with with no tires, my idea is to use those axles for scale 1:10 cars around 190 mms with normal size tires

RControl Freak
11-29-2006, 04:19 PM
you may want to keep an eye out for someone who does obtain it, so that you can get that info

DrKucho
11-29-2006, 06:09 PM
this is it!

http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/showthread.php?t=51121

RControl Freak
11-29-2006, 06:36 PM
sweet! :D

EvaderRacer76
11-29-2006, 08:16 PM
I can't wait much longer this thing better ship soon :D

RControl Freak
11-29-2006, 08:19 PM
hey, you've got an evader, right? Check out the Duratrax Evader ST forum under electric!

4wdmt
11-29-2006, 09:48 PM
very nice. more info showing up.

Chachi_RC
11-29-2006, 11:51 PM
Finally! I found a couple of very short videos on a Wheely King! Here they are:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQcNg41jsfo
and
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkINeEAvrGI&mode=related&search=
Pretty short, but at least you can see it moving, rather than a still picture! One thing is for sure....if you like to wheely, this is your truck!

4wdmt
11-29-2006, 11:59 PM
Wish it was longer. But thanks for the link. I hope more will be posted.

EvaderRacer76
11-30-2006, 12:01 AM
excellent!! nice job finding the vids. Looks like it has no problem turning without flipping

I want to see one offroading though, like through mud and such

Old_School_RC_1
11-30-2006, 06:32 AM
Has anyone heard if there are plans from HPI to offer this as a kit?

I usually avoid RTR's if i can get a kit version as the build is 1/2 the fun, and i don't need another radio laying around. (and battery and charger in this case) not to mention the cost difference. HPI kits go together very well, i would love to build one of these up!

Akura2
11-30-2006, 08:24 AM
wow.. that thing really comes up quick huh?

it's really stable in the turns though... with 4WD and some weight on the front end, it could be a contender

RedRC
11-30-2006, 10:23 AM
HPI Europe have a video on their site showing the Wheely King doing its thing, the suspension seems rather hard but that probably necessary to make it lift the front wheels.

http://www.hpi-europe.com/show_video.php?videoID=98&lang=en

Eoghain
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http://www.redrc.net

Kent Clausen
11-30-2006, 12:22 PM
Also on the HPI USA site:

http://www.hpiracing.com/kitvideos/10820.html

Old_School_RC_1
11-30-2006, 01:17 PM
looks like fun!! Cannot wait - in stock time now bumped to mid Dec. on tower. :(

fastharry
11-30-2006, 02:13 PM
not only does it look fun,it looks like it flies through the air better than the savage....(and by better,I mean flatter.....)...when are they being shipped Kent?...

RControl Freak
11-30-2006, 04:27 PM
Has anyone heard if there are plans from HPI to offer this as a kit?

I usually avoid RTR's if i can get a kit version as the build is 1/2 the fun, and i don't need another radio laying around. (and battery and charger in this case) not to mention the cost difference. HPI kits go together very well, i would love to build one of these up!

I'd have to agree with that, kits are a blast to build! It's awesome to watch your new ride come together! :D

zakerid
12-01-2006, 12:09 PM
cool vid. i wonder how the truck would handle with a softer suspension.

Akura2
12-02-2006, 01:55 AM
cool vid. i wonder how the truck would handle with a softer suspension.

it lands off jumps and bounces like a real monster truck.... but the suspension could stand to be softer... it looks like the only suspension on the landing is the tires...

metalry101
12-09-2006, 02:58 AM
So...I got to check one of these bad boys out in person today. Ya...they're freakin awesome. They're way smaller than they look in the pictures...at least to me. It's not small...just smaller than it looks in pictures. I'm not going to lie...it looks semi-cheesy, and some of the parts are rather flimsy, but they're flexible, and overall the truck looks well designed. It's obviously not intended to be a high performance machine, but it does look like a hell of a lot of fun. :D

As for dates...HPI has had some problems with shipping from overseas and importers and whatnot, but they're hoping to have them available the week before Christmas.

shadowghost1
12-09-2006, 09:13 AM
Even though its HPI I always thought it looked alittle on the cheesie side. I really had to do some thinking between this truck and the new Pede but the Pede won out. Maybe after this truck has been out for a while and some after market stuff shows up then I will get one. Anyway im sure it would be a blast to drive no matter how it looks.

4wdmt
12-09-2006, 09:59 AM
metalry, thats a good honest first impression. Do you have any pics ready (beside a stampede or something for size difference).

awnelson
12-09-2006, 12:25 PM
Has anyone heard if there are plans from HPI to offer this as a kit?

I usually avoid RTR's if i can get a kit version as the build is 1/2 the fun, and i don't need another radio laying around. (and battery and charger in this case) not to mention the cost difference. HPI kits go together very well, i would love to build one of these up!

I agree; plus you can add the 4wd before you put it together and realize it is needed after the fact.

chris1
12-09-2006, 10:09 PM
What about a nitro wheely king?

metalry101
12-10-2006, 02:18 AM
What about a nitro wheely king?
Already available. Has been for like 6 years, just not under the HPI name. Kyosho's Mad Force is THE wheelie king of the nitro world, and a ridiculous amount of fun to boot.

RControl Freak
12-10-2006, 01:19 PM
in order to make a nitro one, they would have to redesign the entire chassis, because it simply isn't big enough to hold an engine, servos and gas tank! :teacher:

trxcrazy345
12-10-2006, 01:24 PM
why not just use mini servos and electronics and a small block (.12)

metalry101
12-10-2006, 02:18 PM
Or, you could just buy a PTI Nitro Goliath, or the Kyosho Mad Force. Both are solid axle equipped, TVP'd, wheelie like mad monster trucks that are already nitro.

RControl Freak
12-10-2006, 02:46 PM
I'd have to go with metalry, those PTI kits are awesome! :D

bxpitbull44
12-11-2006, 11:36 AM
Already available. Has been for like 6 years, just not under the HPI name. Kyosho's Mad Force is THE wheelie king of the nitro world, and a ridiculous amount of fun to boot.

The Mad Force is the wheely king, but doesnt look like an actual monster truck. And it has its share of problems to boot.

chukb
12-15-2006, 09:43 AM
a correctly running savage will wheely on demand too, what's the point of this big clumsy junker?

Smib
12-15-2006, 11:28 AM
With a brick and wheely bar almost any truck can be a wheely king.

Kent Clausen
12-15-2006, 11:39 AM
--electric powered so it's safe to run indoors and quiet enough to run in neighborhoods, parks etc.
--simple to use, easier to get running than nitro
--realistic monster truck chassis with solid axle articulation
--about 1/3 the price of a Savage

a correctly running savage will wheely on demand too, what's the point of this big clumsy junker?

R/C Kid
12-15-2006, 12:41 PM
yeah chukb the new x will wheelie on command but everythin Kent said is true I plan to get one just for the solid axle!

andyh
12-18-2006, 02:54 PM
:huh: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUFnTavAL8Y

awnelson
12-18-2006, 03:08 PM
Thanks, Andyh and Jasoninaugusta, now I really have to have one. I love how completely upside down it still ran fine.

ChuckDeez
12-18-2006, 04:05 PM
:huh: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUFnTavAL8Y

flipped in the water and it still runs?! how?

EvaderRacer76
12-19-2006, 01:54 AM
Now thats a Truck!

xsp
12-19-2006, 04:58 AM
How comes that this thing got four wheel drive? Isn't it a 2WD?

fastharry
12-19-2006, 07:55 AM
a correctly running savage will wheely on demand too, what's the point of this big clumsy junker?



not to mention the fact that it looks like it flies flatter than a savage.....which in my opinion,makes it a must have...

Akura2
12-19-2006, 08:23 AM
How comes that this thing got four wheel drive? Isn't it a 2WD?


easily converted using rear axle/tranny parts

Akura2
12-19-2006, 08:26 AM
***!/ flipped in the water and it still runs?! how?

well there are several fully sealed ESC's out there... (Mtronics, MRT...etc) as far as the Rx... dono.... but the batteries and motor don't have water issues

Dirt King
12-21-2006, 03:05 AM
Oh man, I love this truck. Affordable bashers, what's not to love? Def going to have to do the 4x4 conversion as well. Now if only someone would get the things back in stock soon...

R/C Kid
12-23-2006, 01:23 AM
The distributors are saying they will be getting them towards the end of the month so they should be in stores around Jan 3-5 depending on the shipping gods.

fifiracing
12-23-2006, 11:01 AM
Towerhobbies has 'em in stock.

Wheelie35
12-23-2006, 07:23 PM
Can someone tell me what part numbers I need to convert the wheely king to 4x4?

ElectricThunder
12-23-2006, 09:17 PM
Can someone tell me what part numbers I need to convert the wheely king to 4x4?
I'm going to take a shot in the dark and say whatever the rear axle uses, the front can probably use, but just flipped around to get the proper rotation.

So whatever you have in the back, including the driveshaft to the rear axle from the central gearbox, needs to also go up front. Don't know part numbers though, sorry. Maybe check your manual.

Wheelie35
12-23-2006, 09:28 PM
ok thanks. I am ordering it now.

awnelson
12-23-2006, 10:13 PM
Use this link for a picture of the manual if you don't have one. The inner shafts on the axle may or may not be available right now.

http://www.projecttwin.com/files/wk/exploded.jpg

Wheelie35
12-24-2006, 06:39 AM
Link don't work.

JohnnyShore
12-24-2006, 10:59 AM
Anyone have a pic of the Wheely King next to an E-Maxx or Stampede for size comparison?

awnelson
12-25-2006, 12:15 AM
Link don't work.

Did you try clicking on it? It works fine right now. Anyone else try it and it not work?

Dirt King
12-25-2006, 01:39 AM
Anyone have a pic of the Wheely King next to an E-Maxx or Stampede for size comparison?

The Wheely King is about the same length as the Stampede if you don't include it's little wheelie bar thing on the back, but about an inch narrower. Height is about the same.

Wheelie35
12-25-2006, 05:53 AM
got it to work. I just found out there are no parts for the 4x4 right now. Front axle that is. Wonder how long before they are in stock?

Old_School_RC_1
12-25-2006, 02:05 PM
Ordered one today....finally came into stock! It should arrive 1/7. We'll see how this thing runs!

There's a large box still under the tree for my b-day tomorrow...I'm thinking (based off the wife's hints..she rocks) it's a Stampede XL-5 ... so looking at 2 new toys for the winter!

Should be in interesting comparo to get them both new and stack them up against each other. Hoping the weather holds here in PA.

ElectricThunder
12-25-2006, 11:24 PM
got it to work. I just found out there are no parts for the 4x4 right now. Front axle that is. Wonder how long before they are in stock?
Oh bummer. Looks like I was wrong then. My mistake. :o I have a feeling the 4wd conversion shouldn't take TOO long to come out. I mean, I'm sure HPI knows a lot of people would love to have a 4wd beastie like this in this scale.

Wheelie35
12-26-2006, 07:25 AM
I hope they come out with the parts soon. Alot of parts are OUT OF STOCK. I really wish they made it a 4x4 from the start.

youm0nt
12-27-2006, 10:18 AM
easily converted using rear axle/tranny parts
even for a beginner?

Old_School_RC_1
12-27-2006, 05:45 PM
I would say - should be one of the easier trucks to wrench on.

Mine shipped from Nevada yesterday.....c'mon train!! Give that baby priority status and green lights all the way to PA!

Wheelie35
12-27-2006, 09:05 PM
Hope nothing breaks because there are only a few parts availaible right now.

redbarton
12-27-2006, 11:47 PM
Anyone have a pic of the Wheely King next to an E-Maxx or Stampede for size comparison?
I'd like to see a pic of a WK, E-Sav, and E-Pede all together!

JohnnyShore
12-28-2006, 12:41 PM
My King is coming today...once I get it, I'll take a pic of it next to my X-Cellerator and Micro-T...should give a good idea of the scale.

JohnnyShore
12-28-2006, 04:49 PM
Pics of the "King"...

Body off, and showing off it's 19 turn for more scoot! The truck is VERY slow stock.
http://www.rchobbyhub.com/modules/gallery/albums/gyg_cars/DSCF0216.jpg

Here's one of the King hauling my 18T carpet racer...
http://www.rchobbyhub.com/modules/gallery/albums/gyg_cars/SSPX0403.jpg

Here's one of the King and my electric X-Cellerator for scale...
http://www.rchobbyhub.com/modules/gallery/albums/gyg_cars/SSPX0404.jpg

Nice thing is that side by side packs fit in the battery tray, so the 1500 pack that came with it won't see much action. Truck definitely has a lot more scoot with the 19T motor and matched 3300's. Can't WAIT to make this thing 4wd!!!

Ball Racing
12-28-2006, 05:03 PM
How is the steering ?
Does it seem to be back heavy, or do you think the wheelies are from the very low gearing??

JohnnyShore
12-28-2006, 05:22 PM
Steering works very well...no bump steer when the suspension compresses, and it turns lock to lock on carpet very easily.

I think the wheelies are partly because the battery are in the back, and in my opinoin mainly because the lower links are rather short, creating a short wheelbase (like the Wild Willy, etc). I bet if I guy made up some lower 4-link bars that were 1/2" to 3/4" longer, it would make a big difference.

ElectricThunder
12-28-2006, 05:56 PM
Wow; what a short wheelbase. Looks good though! 4wd and that thing should be one heck of a truck. I'm liking the tires it comes with too!

JohnnyShore
12-28-2006, 07:41 PM
I like the tires/wheels too. No foams in them, but they grab pretty well.

I cut out the wheel wells to more replicate a real monster truck...looks better that way I think. Bodies made for the Stampede should fit this truck pretty well.

Ran it with the 19 turn and matched pack...talk about wheelies!! It almost flips over backwards, even with the wheelie bar...thing's gonna be NUTS when it's finally 4wd!!

Dirt King
12-28-2006, 09:11 PM
That thing looks sweet. I love it.

metalry101
12-29-2006, 12:27 AM
Picked mine up today. Holy hell...I wasn't expecting it to set any land speed records, but it can't even get out of its own way. My Micro-T just might outrun it. Seriously. It is cool though, and it definately does wheelie, though unlike my E-Maxx, Stampede, Twin Force, and E-Zilla, the wheelies have less to do with the power and a lot more to do with the design. Oh well...at least the drivetrain looks to be plenty stout enough to handle actual horsepower. Horsepower will be going in tonight via the same motor that JohnnyShore put in his actually since I have one laying around. Like he said, the steering is great, easily swinging the tires lock to lock even at a standstill on carpet, and the tires seem to be alright, though I'll probably put some Imex Pullers or Red Rocks on it just to give it a little different look.

I'd like to see a pic of a WK, E-Sav, and E-Pede all together!
Ask and you shall recieve.

http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/4227/wheelie1id9.jpg

http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/9260/wheelie2uj3.jpg

http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/9940/wheelie3xr0.jpg

http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/228/wheelie4gm8.jpg

http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/1919/wheelie5uv0.jpg

JohnnyShore
12-29-2006, 07:12 AM
Well, the 19 turn ran great for about 3 packs, until it fried the esc. Oh well, might be time to pick up a mild brushless system for it.

fifiracing
12-29-2006, 01:32 PM
Which store did ya order from. I pre-ordered mine a couple weeks back, and still don't see it on my doorstep yet. :confused:

JohnnyShore
12-29-2006, 01:42 PM
Tower.

fifiracing
12-29-2006, 02:47 PM
Yep, I ordered from Tower as well. A few more days I guess.

fifiracing
12-29-2006, 05:56 PM
What truck is that? The one with the White body.

Old_School_RC_1
12-29-2006, 07:35 PM
I had the e-mail notification set up from Tower, and got the e-mail xmas eve - ordered it xmas night. it was listed as "limited quantities" ... guess i snagged one. Now should be here this wednesday.... if you had it backordered, should be on it's way.

Old_School_RC_1
12-29-2006, 07:36 PM
Nice pics....i like the mud on the twin force - that's how it should be! :)

fifiracing
12-29-2006, 07:40 PM
Yeah, I figured it should be arriving sometime soon. I guess i was just hoping to get the first one out. Lol. Been a long time since i have added a new R/C to my collection. About, ummm, 15 years. :o

fifiracing
12-29-2006, 07:42 PM
Oh, so that White truck is the Twin force? Its huge compared to the WK. :eek:

trxcrazy345
12-29-2006, 07:52 PM
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metalry101
12-29-2006, 11:31 PM
Oh, so that White truck is the Twin force? Its huge compared to the WK. :eek:
Yep, it's a Twin Force, and it's BAD ASS. Seriously, it's as fun as any truck out there. I highly suggest it!

redbarton
12-30-2006, 09:03 PM
I'd like to see a pic of a WK, E-Sav, and E-Pede all together!
Ask and you shall recieve.
Sweet! Great pics! Even better than I asked for! Thanks metalry101! Utah is the place to be, for RC!

Old_School_RC_1
01-03-2007, 06:44 AM
Getting delivered today! finally, been waiting for 3 months or so. Has anyone tried a little more power in this thing yet? I'd like to run it a bit stock, but then i have an XL-5 powertrain just waiting for install. Should be an interesting combo.

Ball Racing
01-03-2007, 09:23 AM
Back up a page, they are talking about a 19 turn on one.

andyh
01-03-2007, 12:09 PM
http://www.hpiracing.com/coolsightings.html

:)

Old_School_RC_1
01-03-2007, 01:43 PM
Back up a page, they are talking about a 19 turn on one.

Thanks, missed it earlier. Jeez, if it all but flips with a 19T, the 12T 550 should really make it interesting!

i just saw the cool pics on HPI's site - very nice, the camo truck looks 4WD already. Definitely has crawling written all over it when i get tired of the wheelies.

JohnnyShore
01-03-2007, 02:46 PM
Thanks, missed it earlier. Jeez, if it all but flips with a 19T, the 12T 550 should really make it interesting!

i just saw the cool pics on HPI's site - very nice, the camo truck looks 4WD already. Definitely has crawling written all over it when i get tired of the wheelies.

I have an XL-5 Stampede, and while the 12-turn 550 motor is ok, the Pede was much faster and had more torque with my 19 turn Orion motor. The 12 turn 550 was more like a 27 turn stock motor than a 12 turn mod.

R/C Kid
01-04-2007, 12:09 AM
I got mine about a week ago now, when the rear sway bar is removed it has about 80 degrees of articulation very impressive for a stock truck, the stock tires are terrible though, its a bitch to drive without the sway bars because it tries to roll over on throttle apllication.

R/C Kid
01-04-2007, 12:14 AM
The 12 t 550 is a freaking joke, its just slow until it hits like 3/4 throttle then its only decent, I already put a 17 turn in my WK the only bad thing is you have to go to a 96 tooth spur to gear down as the motor can't be moved closer due to the gear box interfering.

Old_School_RC_1
01-04-2007, 06:58 AM
HPI has hit a home run on this truck as far as I am concerned – stock, it’s a fun truck. Ran 4 packs through it last night and not as slow as I thought it was going to be, it’s pretty light so it gets up and goes pretty decent, and fairly nimble since it’s a small truck. My only comment is the rear suspension brace is a little too stiff – there’s all but no rear suspension. Plan to trim it down somewhat to allow the rear to flex a little more. However, the potential for this truck is awesome. I can finally retire my TLT as I found a new crawler. If HPI were watching trends, they would take this truck and change it around a bit to offer a ready to run crawler as it’s one of the hottest things around right now.

Anyone listening over at HPI? :)

Here’s some tips: Add 4wd, remove that brace on the rear suspension and the wheelie bar, flip the axles so it runs backwards (piece of cake, all the bosses are already molded in) which puts the weight of the battery on the front where it needs to be for crawling and lets you use any motor still as the rotation’s the same, turn the body around (fits perfect), swap the steering (or add another rod and bellcrank for 4ws) drop the gearing, and add some crawling specific tires and you are there. I plan on doing this as soon as I can track down the 4wd parts. Than I can call it the crawler king…. AND if you decide you want to head back out and do wheelies, you can switch it right back - no mods needed.

Also, option parts: a long wheelbase conversion could be as easy as 4 molded parts and 1 steering rod…would help tremendously.

Old_School_RC_1
01-04-2007, 07:12 AM
The 12 t 550 is a freaking joke, its just slow until it hits like 3/4 throttle then its only decent,

it a torquer, not a revver....but I gotta say I was a little disappointed in mine when i got my stampede. Thought it would have a little more get up and go - especially off the line. Should be plenty for the stock king though...much more and it would be a major handful to keep on it's wheels. Debating on whether or not to even put it in - it has a future in crawling, so I may as well just leave the stock motor in.

JohnnyShore
01-04-2007, 09:28 AM
I went back to the stock motor, and jumped up to a 28 tooth pinion. With my matched 3300's, it's still got plenty of torque, and is probably 30% faster than stock. It was just too twitchy and wheely happy (yeah, I know that's what the truck is supposed to do, but it gets old after a while) with the 19 turn.

I think I'm gonna try to extend the wheel base with some Revo turnbuckles in place of the stock lower 4 link bars...I think extending the wheelbase out 1/2" on each end would help a bundle. Like Old School said, it would be nice if HPI came out with an extended wheelbase kit.

Sure wish the 4wd conversion kit I've been hearing about would be released already!! C'mon HPI...make us WK owners happy!! :-)

Ball Racing
01-04-2007, 09:37 AM
Why can't you just buy a second truck, and rob the parts to make it 4wd, and have spare of everything else, since no parts are avaible at the shops yet??

chukb
01-04-2007, 10:17 AM
just got the new tower hobbies flyer in mail. they have this truck listed as 1/2 scale.http://www.supraforums.com/forum/images/smilies/laugh.gif

Old_School_RC_1
01-04-2007, 12:06 PM
Why can't you just buy a second truck, and rob the parts to make it 4wd, and have spare of everything else, since no parts are avaible at the shops yet??

I can think of better ways to spend $189... :) I'll just wait for that conversion.

Even better, how about a kit HPI at a lower price?? i don't need another radio, battery, or charger. I have 10-15 or so extra radios sitting on my shelf. I wouldn't mind a second one of these - 1 for wheelies and play (or scale build-up) and one for crawling, but not buying another for $200...just paying for a lot of stuff i don't need.

JohnnyShore
01-04-2007, 12:45 PM
I was tempted to buy a second truck, but the radio system, battery, and esc in my opinion, are throw away items, so I'd basically be spending $189 for the 4wd parts.

R/C Kid
01-04-2007, 04:46 PM
Yeah getting a second truck would be overkill, we had most of the parts on the shelf were I work all I need now are axles the center shaft and outdrive, and I'll have 4wd. This thing is way to much fun. Does anyone know how I can counteract the torque roll? I have heard the stiffer springs on the left side is the best solution any other ideas?

Old_School_RC_1
01-04-2007, 07:20 PM
Does anyone know how I can counteract the torque roll? I have heard the stiffer springs on the left side is the best solution any other ideas?

That's one way to do it - the other would be to use a swaybar...think you'd have to make one though at this point. i am planning to shave down the rear brace somewhat so it's not too stiff. Tried it before with my stock clod and it made a ton of difference. that way it gives a little more and has better twist, but still keeps the rear end in line. Going to try to squeeze it in this weekend.

On a side note, i used the kit supplied battery tonight...wow, what a difference in speed - so much lower. it cooked pretty good with my epic nimh pack....either the battery is bad or there's just that much difference between packs. ran it into the ground and trickle charging it overnight - hopefully it just needs to cycle.

JohnnyShore
01-04-2007, 09:12 PM
My stock pack was horrible as well...MUCH faster with the matched 3300's. I picked up a Tekin Rebel 2, and threw that in the truck as well. Nice to not have to worry about the esc going poof if I want to throw a 10 turn in there!

R/C Kid
01-05-2007, 12:05 AM
I am running a 17 turn without any prblms on the stock speedo. And one thing I thought of old school was using tight nylon (fabric) instead of plastic because it would allow most of the flex but I think it would also help with the roll has anyone tried this?

Ball Racing
01-05-2007, 10:48 AM
I put metal links for the steering, and metal lower 4 links on the front of mine along with meatl links for rear lock-out.
With the extra weight on the front, it doesn't wheelie as bad..
I Put a 23 tooth pinion on with a mahmax amp li-po 6000 mah. Alot better speed.
I also put the aluminum shocks on it with 30wt oil, made it jump better.
I cut a section out of the back of the rear swar brace, drives better.....

Old_School_RC_1
01-05-2007, 07:24 PM
nylon fabric? no idea...try it and see, why not? maybe it's the handling secret....:)

Nice, do you have a pic Ball?

ricrush
01-06-2007, 10:58 AM
I got my WK on 1-3 I agree its a great little truck. Its something much different except for the tlt. It has a great scale appeal. A phone call to hpi in cali told me that they did not plan on releasing a kit to convert to 4wd but all the parts will be available. They said they were lucky just to get out what they have in the time that they had to work with. So give everything some time. Heres a link to some comparision shots that I took. Eric www.ricrush.com/wheelyking.html

Ball Racing
01-06-2007, 04:25 PM
I just made mine 4wd.
Such much better steering.
Better when you jump too, because it you put it on the nose, you can throttle out of it.
WAY better brakes now too.

I also put a 23 pinion on it with a 17 turn speed gem extreme.

4wdmt
01-06-2007, 11:08 PM
Ball racing, do you experience torque twist now that you made it 4wd? thanks.

Old_School_RC_1
01-07-2007, 12:17 AM
I just made mine 4wd.


Nice, where did you find the parts?

BTW don't try a 17t motor with the stock speedo unless you love the smell of frying circuits. Didn't cook it completely, but it was way hot and you could smell it cooking. I shut it down before it fried. Did some reseach online, I think it's only good down to 19t? In any case, swapping speed controllers tomorrow.

Ball Racing
01-07-2007, 09:10 AM
I have a different speed controll on mine.

I just bought a second truck, and pulled the rear axle out, and swaped it in.
It does not torque roll any worse.

The stock spur gear is bad weak......
With the added momentum of the front tires spinning, and the stonger motor, I hurt the spur gear when jumping ( hitting the brake in the air)
I put the second spur gear on, and hurt it a little, so I just made the mesh extra tight..

You can say what you want about not buying a second truck, but I used the speed controller on my high lift 350 (working great)
Have a extra body now ( I have major dents in the first one)
Had the extra spur I needed
Have spare shocks, and four links,
Have a spare servo,
Extra set of tire to cut on..
extra tranny if my parts break....


Some times with a new vehichle it's not worth wating months for the hobby shop to get parts in.

I bought most of the parts to make mine 4wd the first day, and still had almost $40 in it ,between what was in stock and what we odered...

JohnnyShore
01-07-2007, 10:16 AM
I'm probably going to try to fit a 32 pitch spur on to the truck when I go 4wd. Should take a lot more stress. Ideally, I'd like to fit a slipper on to the truck, but I'm not sure it's possible.

Old_School_RC_1
01-07-2007, 01:06 PM
Found a good combination - magnetic mayhem 550 and rooster. had to shoehorn the rooster in there, but it all fit. Not much faster on the top end, but the 550 can gives a ton of torque, wheelies all over the place, but not too fast that I'm flipping it all the time.

Have a pic, but somehow cannot add attatchments anymore.. ? Deleted my old pics tht i had out there...anyone know how to get this adjusted?

Ball Racing
01-07-2007, 01:50 PM
Just killed the rear ring, and pinion................................

R/C Kid
01-07-2007, 03:44 PM
The parts are supposed to be available by the end of the month for 4wd conversion. I am glad to hear it steers better I was very dissapointed in the steering on my mine I am planning to conver it to a hi-steer setup so I can get more out of it as well as mounting the servo on the front axle along with a 2 cell lipo saddle pack to get a 60/40 weight distribution, I am also planning to extend the wheelbase 3/4 of an inch at both ends to make it have a 12.5 wheelbase. I also ordered a 96 tooth spur so I can gear it down with the larger spur and go to a smaller pinion. Don't hope for pics anytime soon this is going to take me a long time both to get the money and find time to put it together. Oh and I have a set of the new IMEX oversized 2.2's on order they are supposed to be 5.5" instead of 5.4" but IMEX usually runs a little bit large.

Ball Racing
01-07-2007, 04:48 PM
I just fixed the pinion, and ring,,(put new ones in, MT ones work)
there are 4 shims on the diff cup between the bearings, I took
one of them off the teeth side of the ring,and placed it on the other side, so it would have a tighter mesh.

It did not seem to be too tight after this at all.
And when run, it was still quiet..

JohnnyShore
01-07-2007, 07:10 PM
If anyone wants to buy a WK roller, I'm selling mine. I got a heck of a deal on another brand of truck, so I figured someone would want my roller to do the 4wd conversion and have some extra parts for a lot less than buying a whole new truck. It's listed in the For Sale forums...

ricrush
01-07-2007, 07:28 PM
JS I replied to you in the bst forum. Thanks Eric

R/C Kid
01-07-2007, 08:22 PM
Ball, You don't need a different speed control to run a 17 turn, I am running one with stock gearing on the stock ESC with absolutely no problems. I wasnt worried about toasting it as Its crap anyway, and I have a few spare ESC's laying around if necessary.

HYDRAMATIC99
01-09-2007, 02:51 AM
just got the new tower hobbies flyer in mail. they have this truck listed as 1/2 scale.http://www.supraforums.com/forum/images/smilies/laugh.gif
It is 1/12 according to HPI

Old_School_RC_1
01-11-2007, 06:33 AM
Took out the saturn and speedo for use in my TLT crawler - good throttle response and works well for just creeping along. Still running the mayhem and rooster in the WK, and switched over to moabs for now, though probably switching back - they look too small for the truck as is, and traction wasn't that bad with the stockers in the first place.

love those stock wheels and tires though just for the looks. wonder if HPI is going to offer them seperately.

looking to bolster up that wheelie bar, it's already looking rough. Going to pick up a few airplane wheels from the LHS and see what i can "gnoiter" on there....

Ball Racing
01-11-2007, 08:19 AM
HPI sells the tires and wheels, seperate or premounted..

Wheelie35
01-11-2007, 07:28 PM
I'm thinking Castle creations brushless for the wheely king. That with a 3 cell lipoly battery. Plenty of run time and power. I'm gonna try one. Castle says it would work great.

Wheelie35
01-11-2007, 08:07 PM
It will have 4wd for sure. I should have it together in a few weeks.

ElectricThunder
01-11-2007, 08:46 PM
I'm thinking Castle creations brushless for the wheely king. That with a 3 cell lipoly battery. Plenty of run time and power. I'm gonna try one. Castle says it would work great.
You're going to have to mount the battery in the front or put something heavy up there, because the WK is going to wheelie like mad on any CC system with 3s lipo... :eek:

That'll be sick if you can do 4wd with that kinda setup though. :D

EvaderRacer76
01-11-2007, 10:25 PM
Hey guys! I just ordered mine, $30 off from tower! Will this body fit:

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&W=000447078&I=LXDA76&P=K

Old_School_RC_1
01-12-2007, 06:31 AM
Hey guys! I just ordered mine, $30 off from tower! Will this body fit:



Enjoy it - it's a cool truck!

The wheel openings might not line up quite right as the truck is 1/12 scale and this body is 1/10, but they should be fairly close - should be able to get away with it.

Old_School_RC_1
01-12-2007, 07:01 AM
I just threw away the stock back that came with the truck - tested it and fully charged it only showed 6.6 volts....must have gotten a bad pack.

Ball Racing
01-12-2007, 08:38 AM
I just put the "White" Robinson Racing Spur on mine, Soooooo much better qaulity...

R/C Kid
01-12-2007, 10:14 AM
I ordered Kimbrough spur for mine haven't put iton yet though, oh and the wheelbase is almost identical to the stampede so 1/10th stuff should fit alright, but if you take out the sway bar in the rear you will rub with damn near anything unless you put a rather large body lift on.

Wheelie35
01-12-2007, 11:36 AM
What would you say is the top speed of the wheely king stock with a good 6 cell pack?

R/C Kid
01-12-2007, 06:17 PM
maybe 20 mph if that. But it does wheely on comman with the sway bar installed.

Wheelie35
01-12-2007, 07:44 PM
Thats with a GOOD 6cell pack? Wow that is terrible. Brushless will be alot of fun then. Hoping for 40-45 mph

glassdoctor
01-12-2007, 08:07 PM
I think the WK will be almost uncontrollable at 40+mph... but the wrecks will be cool huh?

metalry101
01-12-2007, 09:30 PM
What would you say is the top speed of the wheely king stock with a good 6 cell pack?
Someone tested the thing and radared it at like 9.9 or something. That might be high. With the stock pack it's WORTHLESS. With a better pack it's still worthless. Honestly. A Mini-T on AA's has more punch.

Wheelie35
01-13-2007, 08:33 AM
Can't wait to install the brushless. 9.9 is way to SlOW. I will be plenty happy with 40 if I can the front down :)

Akura2
01-13-2007, 09:59 AM
My guess is that the apparent speed is supposed to look scale as well as the vehicle

ElectricThunder
01-13-2007, 11:36 AM
Can't wait to install the brushless. 9.9 is way to SlOW. I will be plenty happy with 40 if I can the front down :)
40 in this thing is going to be A LOT to handle. The COG is high, the tires will balloon, and it's designed for wheelies. Have fun.:)

EvaderRacer76
01-13-2007, 03:52 PM
I plan on putting my sintered 4.5 in it and gearing WAY down for gobs of power. Then adding AWD, should be an awesome truck. I'll be using lipo's as well. Even if the top speed will only be 20-30 mph, I will be happy, just fast enough to jump high, yet not uncontrollably fast, and the torque should be perfect for grass, mud, wheelies, etc. This thing is gonna be the ultimate bashing truck.

EvaderRacer76
01-13-2007, 09:11 PM
Does anyone know if these rims will fit the wheely king's axles? I know they are 12mm, but I'm not sure if they are deep enough to reach the threads on the axles.

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXGC60&P=M

I think these with the right tire would look sick on the WK!

Ball Racing
01-13-2007, 09:55 PM
My king with a 23 pinion, and stock spur, with a 6,000mah max amp li-po, and a 17 turn extreme speed gem clocked in at 18.8mph on the GPS.

This truck at stock ride height and wheel base will not run at 40mph more than 5 feet....................

It's not the ultimate basher by any means.

And since this truck has no slipper, you will kill the drive train with brushless power for 40mph,.


You will need metal drives, the Optional hardened final drive ring and pinions, the better trans gears, (have you taken you trans apart yet?) Small thing,,,,

I have already destroyed the rear ring and pinion, and now with heavy braking is done the front is clicking...

EvaderRacer76
01-14-2007, 01:03 AM
My king with a 23 pinion, and stock spur, with a 6,000mah max amp li-po, and a 17 turn extreme speed gem clocked in at 18.8mph on the GPS.

Usually when I put a mod motor in my vehicles I try to put a smaller pinion in rather than a large one. Are you sure the truck isn't overgeared?

hyperstang
01-14-2007, 01:32 AM
Man...I want one.

I think that I need to wait for payday....

Race on!!!

Ball Racing
01-14-2007, 08:55 AM
Usually when I put a mod motor in my vehicles I try to put a smaller pinion in rather than a large one. Are you sure the truck isn't overgeared?

This truck does 9 mph stock,,,,,,,,, and comes with a 21 tooth, I really don't think it's overgeared, maybe still under geared.... :confused:

Also if you read your manual it gave a chart of gearing, and motors, and they suggested adding teeth with the lower turn motors...

This truck does not compare to other vehicles that you would lower the pinion, with a mod motor,, If this was a electric buggy, that did 25mph with a stock 540, and I dropped to a 17 turn mod, then yes I might drop down a tooth or so, but when you are geared for 9 mph ,no motor around without addding gear, is going to make this thing a rocket..

It's like my mod clod busters, I am still running the stock pinion, but have a 9 turn motor in there and it just now goes 28 mph,,, these are just geared like dump truck..

Have you driven yours much?

EvaderRacer76
01-14-2007, 04:18 PM
This truck does 9 mph stock,,,,,,,,, and comes with a 21 tooth, I really don't think it's overgeared, maybe still under geared.... :confused:

Also if you read your manual it gave a chart of gearing, and motors, and they suggested adding teeth with the lower turn motors...

Have you driven yours much?

Oh OK, now I understand. I actually am getting mine tommorow so I haven't seen the manual or anything yet. BTW, are the ring and pinion gears colored plastic or just cheap metal? It's hard to tell from HPI's site, but they look like cheap metal.

Ball Racing
01-14-2007, 08:17 PM
I just lengthened the rear wheel base about .700 inch, I used t-maxx tire rods the long ones, and had to use t-maxx drive shafts re-cut to length.
Well you lose the factory plastic sway bar brace,
So I took the wheelie bar off and slide out the pin that is in the hinge for the battery tray lid.
Drilled it out to .130, and installed .125 music wire and bent it 90 degrees on both sides of the frame, pointing foward. The took a stadium truck tie rods , and made links to go from the axle spindle do-dad, and put a longer screw in it to hold the bottom of the link, then up top I used a 1/8th scale buggy sway bar ball link to go onto my new sway bar.

It is as stiff as factory, and looks alot like the real sway bars on real monster trucks except mine is on the outside of the shock.

Drives better but still will wheelie......

hyperstang
01-14-2007, 10:44 PM
Get some pics up!!!!

EvaderRacer76
01-14-2007, 11:13 PM
Yeah we need pics!

hyperstang
01-15-2007, 12:11 AM
Anyone know the $30 coupon number for Towerhobbies??

I want to order mine if I don't get the one from another buyer...

redbarton
01-15-2007, 01:08 PM
Has anybody been able to get a WK up to a decent clip yet, say like, 25mph? The stock speed is pretty pitiful. I'm starting to lean back towards an E-Savage again for an all around basher.

Ball Racing
01-15-2007, 04:31 PM
I just put a 26 pinion on mine today with the 17 turn mod, and it's at about 23 mph by the gps.

redbarton
01-15-2007, 06:27 PM
I just put a 26 pinion on mine today with the 17 turn mod, and it's at about 23 mph by the gps.
How did it handle at that speed? Was it a handful or manageable? Is the suspension responsive to bumps? The HPI site video made it seem like the only suspension was in the tires.

Ball Racing
01-15-2007, 06:55 PM
It has suspension, the shocks come with a very light fluid, and a soft spring.

I changed up to 20 wt. oil, and the Yellow springs.

At this speed on dirt, with factory tires it will go side to side way too easy.
But I have my tires cut to a edge like the real monster trucks do.
And this gets down and makes bite...
The tires have too much suspension, or rather to say at this speed need foams, especially on jump landings....

This truck is still top heavy, and will traction roll over when trying to corner tightly.

I bought a set of OFNA white 2.2 wheel today that have about 1/4" inch more offset to them, and still look "monster truck" style.
This should give me 1/2" inch more width, and more stability..

I also took the shock preload spacer out of mine to lower the ride height.

t9dragon
01-15-2007, 07:16 PM
Let's see some pics.........................