Team Associated Announces new RC8 1/8-scale buggy and team [Archive]

MattHiggins

01-02-2007, 09:21 AM

http://209.2.68.15:8011/pics/silo_buggy.jpg
Please note that the above is a graphic and not the RC8
From Team Associated:
Team Associated Announces 1/8th Offroad Race Team
Costa Mesa, CA – January 1, 2007 – As the dawn of a New Year breaks, Team
Associated has drawn on the knowledge of its unprecedented 20 IFMAR World
Championships to create the highly anticipated Factory Team RC8. This is
Associated’s first venture into 1/8th scale offroad racing and they are looking to make
an immediate impact.
Set to lead the Worldwide racing campaign for the RC8 are current ROAR 1/8th Scale
National Champion, Ryan Maifield, two-time IFMAR World Champion Ryan
Cavalieri and multi-time U.S. National Champion, Richard Saxton. In addition,
ROAR “A” main finalist JR Mitch and Kyle Skidmore will focus on regional events
and select National contests in the United States.
Joining these drivers, with the support of CML Distributing, are current IFMAR World
Champion, Neil Cragg and “Mr. Everything” Craig Drescher. Also representing
Team Associated and the RC8, with the assistance of Thunder Tiger Europe, are
EFRA European Champions Peter Pinisch and Jörn Neumann.
Look for all these drivers and more to start competing with the Factory Team RC8 in
early 2007 at major events near you. Stay logged on to www.teamassociated.com
for more information as it becomes available.
Team Associated - Champions By Design

4DMNYC

01-02-2007, 09:43 AM

It's about time. I can't wait to see what they bring to the table.

OutFrontFrames

01-02-2007, 09:53 AM

Pics Pics!! :d

YR4Dude

01-02-2007, 12:07 PM

Could this spark the return of Mark Pavidas now that AE has a 1/8th program?

Mr. Schumacher

01-02-2007, 02:56 PM

Nitro TC3 with extended chassis, longer arms, longer shocks and a .21 engine mount? :D

thedarkness

01-02-2007, 03:15 PM

I cant see mark leaving kyosho, hes more than just a driver there, and an excellent spokesperson.If I were a kyosho bigwig I wouldnt lose someone like that over a couple of bucks(respectivly speaking)

juntom10

01-02-2007, 04:13 PM

is that nitro?

Akura2

01-02-2007, 04:31 PM

is that nitro?

um.... of course

chase

01-02-2007, 04:51 PM

sweet i cant wait 2 see a truggy

chris1

01-02-2007, 05:35 PM

It's about time

microrcdude

01-02-2007, 05:53 PM

knew it was coming, they gotta compete with losi in almost every class

Demon-TC3

01-02-2007, 06:17 PM

Compete and walk all over as usual!

Hehe well cant wait to see it...

CarbonMadness

01-02-2007, 06:20 PM

So I knew they were coming out with one for over a year, and they just now had a press release. :rolleyes:

suckfish

01-02-2007, 06:31 PM

it was really only a matter of time before AE got into the arnea...

RCfroman

01-02-2007, 06:39 PM

it's sweet, but still no 1/10 4wd buggy, hmm... (not trying to dis associated here)

SCHMACH

01-02-2007, 07:11 PM

why not ? i would...they tap dance around the issue all the time....1st with the 18t...now with this...although this makes me hate them less now.

RC10racer89

01-02-2007, 08:41 PM

Nitro TC3 with extended chassis, longer arms, longer shocks and a .21 engine mount? :D

I'm actually wondering how many cues from the thunder tiger buggies will show up on the new AE ride. The two brands definitly have ties. I believe that Thunder Tiger actually owns associated these days.

microrcdude

01-02-2007, 09:41 PM

yes, Thunder Tiger does own AE.

JeffEmbracedDC

01-02-2007, 09:42 PM

YES! I have been waiting for this. This is super cool.

Yea, AE is owned by Thunder Tiger. I can't wait for some more info.

-Jeff

dacemaxx111

01-02-2007, 09:51 PM

tarvymoto

01-02-2007, 10:38 PM

You can bet that the AE buggy will be good.......the real question is..... will it be out by 2008?

t9dragon

01-02-2007, 10:40 PM

I guess they don't want to be passed up by Losi................................LOL

Buggyracer28

01-03-2007, 12:36 AM

hmmm wait for this or get the 8ight?

ElectricThunder

01-03-2007, 12:54 AM

hmmm wait for this or get the 8ight?
BOTH! :cool: :huh:

wrxsti0402

01-03-2007, 01:58 AM

FINALLY! It's about time. Maybe now that my favorite radio control car manufacturer is making an 1/8 scale buggy, I'll get one!
-wrxsti0402

Buggyracer28

01-03-2007, 02:21 AM

LOL, i wont be able to afford having a MBX5 prospec, MSR, 18t, 8ight and this lol. Im selling the prospec and MSR to get either the 8ight or this eventually.

wishingfortlt1

01-03-2007, 02:32 AM

wow, im so glad i held off on buying the 8ight, i knew in the back of my mind that AE would come through!!!!

Cicada

01-03-2007, 03:47 AM

nice; but where's their 10th 4wd buggy?

Old_School_RC_1

01-03-2007, 06:41 AM

About time! now, we have to get Traxxas in the game - then we'd have some interesting battles. Wonder if Associated is going to break with traditional design and come up with something crazy or stick with tried and true. My guess is T&T....but i would really like to see some innovation like the losi buggy - a good step, but let's break the mold!

slaf

01-03-2007, 08:11 AM

I'm not a buggy guy but I can't wait to order my RC8T FT !!!!!!

balang_479

01-03-2007, 01:54 PM

This better not be another TT S3 EB4.. i want a ground up designed buggy, which will absolutely smash the competition (even though the EB4 is very good).

TexRacer

01-03-2007, 02:03 PM

since thunder tiger owns team associated i hope it won't be a version base on the EB4-S3 it is not a good car and isn't on par with others in 1/8 scale.i have owned and raced alot of team asscociated vehicles.i want this one because there passion for winning and making great cars is is top priority.i am keeping my fingers crossed.......

Dace-Did you ever OWN a EB4?If so then you never went with the flat chassis and had it set up right.
This car is actually VERY nice and handles excellent.
There are quite a few guys in the south that LOVE this car.
If you happen to NEVER owned this car please in the future REFRAIN from making such comments.
If you did own the car Im sorry you didnt know how to set it up.
Great car and the parts were CHEAP In cost,not in quality.

LD3Furious

01-03-2007, 03:25 PM

I ran the delta box S3, it was a tank. Granted, a part did break, here and there, but the few times something did, it was mostly my own fault. A bad landing offa table top broke the bell crank, and once, the rear toe mount broke after catching a rail road pin, used to hold the PVC down to the track.The one thing that did go wrong, that can be attributed to the manufacturer was a problem for many people...this being the chassis cracked. And even so, Ace, the TTR distributor here in the U.S.A replaced it at no cost to me.Unfortunately, I never did get a chance to try the flat chassis as they were ( and to my knowledge still are) difficult to find.
As for the TTR/AE debate, I have read on SGrid that the "new" buggy will use the TTR diffs and driveline components...not sure what else.

zakerid

01-03-2007, 05:39 PM

hmmm wait for this or get the 8ight?
i tried waiting for the MGT... got tired of waiting and got something else. hopefully this won't be like the MGT release.

blktransam

01-03-2007, 06:24 PM

why is everything called the 8?.. you have the hyper(8) the losi(8) and now AE(8)...lol
yes they are (1/8) scaler but be more original...IMO but cant wait to see this bad boy!

vad

01-03-2007, 07:00 PM

Just wait kyosho's next car might be the MP-8

glassdoctor

01-03-2007, 07:28 PM

I have heard from AE higher ups that it borrows a lot from the Kyosho buggy, not the TTR. I don't know if it will "look" like a Kyosho clone, but apparently they tried to copy the basic geometry.

RCfroman

01-03-2007, 07:41 PM

why is everything called the 8?.. you have the hyper(8) the losi(8) and now AE(8)...lol
yes they are (1/8) scaler but be more original...IMO but cant wait to see this bad boy!
probably because a lot of them started with 7 or lower, so 7 is higher than 8. Hyper 7, mp777(even though there isnt an 8 yet but still) just one step up is all for some.

Bigedmond

01-03-2007, 09:05 PM

we all knew AE couldnt do something on there own. They let losi go first, spend the money, then start copying some of the stuff they do, and call it inovation because they will mount the front shocks on the back of the shock tower,

tmaxxking1

01-03-2007, 09:31 PM

i cant wait to see it in person

Ghostface Buggy

01-04-2007, 08:37 AM

I wonder if AE is thinking about making an electric version of this buggy. If they do, I'd have a tought time deciding whether to buy the TC5, RC8, or blow my whole income tax return check and buy both.

LD3Furious

01-04-2007, 11:07 AM

Git both, ya only live once ;)

Steve Weiss

01-04-2007, 12:28 PM

How's it going to work if it's just one big solid chunck of black stuff like the picture? :teacher:

j/k guys ;)

RC10racer89

01-04-2007, 02:41 PM

nice; but where's their 10th 4wd buggy?

Well its not an AE ride, but the BJ-4 by J-concepts uses some associated parts. Who knows, maybe we will eventually see a AE factory 10th 4wd ride.

Manic

01-04-2007, 04:44 PM

Its a real shame that AE have taken soooo long to make this car - they are so far behind the eight ball, no matter how good it may be. There are just so many cars out there that have years and years of development behind them, cars which just seem to get better and better. The Xray XB8 has really only just got a grip, and thats taken close to three years - and for sure Kyosho won't be standing still. I really think this time AE will miss the gravy train....... The TTR legacy strikes again. Bring back Gene H.

:roll2:

rcfreak9

01-04-2007, 06:11 PM

i agree that AE realllyyy has ta pick up the pace!!! i know that the racing design works great... but what about getting the customers excited with cool new improvements...or even a new chassis!! they need to come out with stuff WAAYYYYY more often!! i dont mean wrong for team associated, dont get me wrong!! im a very loyal cusomer!! i have been impressed with their gt2 so far!! lets see wut the buggy looks like. maybe their putting in some effort towards makin the fans excited.

RCSavage

01-04-2007, 07:08 PM

Associated will sell on name alone. The drones are already lining up for it and they haven't seen anything about it yet. Lets face it, with Maifield and Cavalieri running it, it will win races and people will buy it. I personally, like the creative approch that Losi always takes, but this thing will be like a PS3. It doesn't have to work at all , but people will sleep on the street and shoot each other to get one.LOL

Ball Racing

01-05-2007, 01:21 PM

The thing to come out with is,
the next great thing,

I think in another year or two we will have played this buggy truggy out,

I mean we didn't run "monster trucks" at the track for much more than 3 years, and then all those savages, t-maxxs, LST's and MGTs were put out to pasture for truggies,

Truggies were better, but everybody has them, so you still have to beat 1st place..

Invent the new different thing, and you will roll on some green :)

chase

01-05-2007, 08:27 PM

o man i just got mine and i cant wait 2 run it

hyperstang

01-05-2007, 08:50 PM

Finally!!!!!

paulct

01-05-2007, 09:28 PM

...they are so far behind the eight ball,
:roll2:

Didn't you mean "behind the 8ight ball"....LOL

hyperstang

01-05-2007, 09:31 PM

Man the losi really made a big impact at our local off road track. It seems that the 1/8th scale class, the Kyosho MP series buggies disappeared and the Mugen's and the 8ight just popped up. I think I am the only one that runs an SP1...I think that it is time to change..

I'll see when this bad boy hits the online stores...

alexrckid

01-05-2007, 10:31 PM

only comes in black........????....lol

hyperstang

01-05-2007, 10:32 PM

lol!!!!!!

timmygreek

01-06-2007, 09:25 AM

ok possibly dumb question but will this be available this year?

RCSavage

01-06-2007, 01:37 PM

Suppose to be, but you never know with AE. I honestly think they will not botch this release, unless the team drivers find little quircks in the 1st couple of months they run the pre production stuff.

LD3Furious

01-06-2007, 03:04 PM

I just found this on another thread. The thing to note here, is that the person who quoted this did not state who the original author was, so for now, I guess, take it with a grain of salt...
"now that the cat's out of the bag, i'll confirm some details. it uses Thunder Tiger diffs from the ST-1 truggy (not the S3). They work perfectly so we figured we'd use them to save some tooling costs, savings which gets passed on to the customer. other TT parts used are just some small items like throttle/brake linkages, EVERYTHING else is all new, all AE.
drivetrain layout is the time proven design. no, the engine won't sit right on the centerline of the chassis but the important thing is that the center of gravity does which is what matters most. who cares if the engine is in the middle but pushes the CG off to the side. the suspension uses c-hubs with upper and lower arms up front.
the body and wing is different from what's out on the market, but not bizarre looking like some that i've seen. the thing sits really low.
lastly, it's metric.
no, we didn't re-invent the wheel, we just optimize it - AE style"

balang_479

01-06-2007, 05:12 PM

Its from Neo-Buggy.net and i was about to quote it too... sounds promising... especially the Metric part... Losi was so stupid doing everything imperial.

rezenclowd3

01-06-2007, 11:25 PM

Im glad Losi used imperial, as I bought a full Imperial hex setup by MIP :-) Although I do find it easier to remember the metric sized ;-) Either way, I am going to own both metric and imperial. I am just hoping that this buggy does not look phat. I am liking how narrow the 8 looks.

fuzzychickens

01-07-2007, 11:29 PM

So what if they get the center of gravity on the centerline? I think the proportion of mass they can squeeze on to the centerline is more important than just positioning the cg there.

I mean, you could have the cg right down the center yet have the car be fat...unlike the 8ight where it's more than just a centered cg - it's skinny too....which means the car will transition quicker.

I think they need to give a bit more credit for what losi has done.

Bigedmond

01-08-2007, 01:18 AM

Fuzzy, that will never happen. EVER. The Losi vs AE debate is like Ford vs Chevy. They all have there group that will follow and dis the other no matter what.

Ill be honest, i drive only losi electrics, but I just got a GT2, and so far, i like how easy the front is the work on, and the quick change setup is dialed. But i still plan on getting the 8ight even if there is a slight mod needed to the throttle linkage. I mean, how hard it is to but a spring, and a ball cup.

I really do hope the rc8 brings it. Because it would be nice to see the 2 american companies dominate the tracks while the imports are scratching there head. And word is, kyosho just put a big hurdle infront of all there drivers.

Cain

01-08-2007, 01:23 AM

Rsaxton

01-09-2007, 09:46 AM

Guys the car will be out this year, I hate to give a date but April is a good guess. We are testing production parts and everything is going great.

Cain

01-09-2007, 01:14 PM

Thats good to here for those who would be interested.

Now if AE could get something out for 4wd electric buggy directly from them that would be really great.

Either way, I don't plan to run AE products anymore, but I hope they do well for the overall benefit of the hobby.

adam lancia

01-09-2007, 05:42 PM

Guys the car will be out this year, I hate to give a date but April is a good guess. We are testing production parts and everything is going great.

thanks for the info richard!

xxxkat

01-10-2007, 12:31 AM

Probably a re-hashed Thunder Tiger..ha..ha

thedarkness

01-10-2007, 12:39 AM

No for one it has c-hub front end, conical ring and pinnion and a 15 or 16 tooth clutch bell.Im sure richard has more info on this.

dacemaxx111

01-10-2007, 04:36 AM

Dace-Did you ever OWN a EB4?If so then you never went with the flat chassis and had it set up right.
This car is actually VERY nice and handles excellent.
There are quite a few guys in the south that LOVE this car.
If you happen to NEVER owned this car please in the future REFRAIN from making such comments.
If you did own the car Im sorry you didnt know how to set it up.
Great car and the parts were CHEAP In cost,not in quality.

Mr Tex you make it sound like i am talking about your little brother to be that defensive,its just a car.How many other buggies have you owned and raced? How many wins do you have in the expert class(not novice class) of at least 30 cars? I have owned a EB4 and raced it for a couple of months with decent results.I also have driven a pro drivers EB4, he will remain nameless as i don't want him in any trouble(a good friend of mine)he turned me on to the car.The car is not bad it just doesn't deliver the level of performance that the others do. What races other than club races are they winning? Its funny that this car will not be in production when the RC8 is out,i wonder why.You race in the south i was born and raised in Bryan,TX yes i am a Texas A and M Aggie for life.Here on on the west coast(CA)the tracks are very different big and very rought,lots of major air off of jumps track changes every weekend so having a car that will drive well in all conditions with minimal changes is a huge advantage...by the way i drive a Xray TQ and have been racing 1/8 scale buggies for 10 years so come on down and i will school you.I also race a Dace Preditor T-MAXX for Dale Dace of Dace Manufacture/Unlimited Engineering ..... love eating REVOS.

suckfish

01-10-2007, 06:21 AM

I'm sticking with Team Losi.. Come to the Dark Side Luke

RCSavage

01-10-2007, 07:51 AM

It will be interesting to see what AE comes out with. It will sell for sure just on name alone, and will perform on the track at the big events as AE has alot of top drivers. Thing that will be interesting is to see how it will perform on the track versus the variety of vehicles out there in the hands of the common driver. I am excited to see how AE does in a class where there is a large variety of vehicles. Beating up on Losi in 2wd buggy and truck only goes so far if there is really only two players in the game. When you got a more crowded field (like touring cars for example), wins may come less frequently but the good thing is it will spark more innovation as you can't be stagnant like in the other two horse classes.

AE mostly wins because of it's level of drivers on the highest level. It's not to say that the 2 companies don't make equal products (because they do) but from my experience Losi is just as dominant on the local level (at least where I race)

To prove another point, Saxton already said that AE will have 5 factory guys with the new car at the Dirt race, while Losi still only has 2 major names competing with the car.

Now in touring car it's totally the other way, with Losi running among the top everywhere, and AE not even making a main in the last 2 years.

birdy233

01-10-2007, 08:22 AM

Mr Tex you make it sound like i am talking about your little brother to be that defensive,its just a car.How many other buggies have you owned and raced? How many wins do you have in the expert class(not novice class) of at least 30 cars?

I know Les and he is a expert class racer and my money would be on Les anytime. He has owned more R/C cars than than I can count, over a thousand would be my guess, So he does know a thing or two about R/C cars. As for some of the local racers that do race at our Texas tracks that Les has ran against, people such as Ralph Burch, Kyle Skidmore, Atomic Ron, David Joor, Steve Slayden, Quincy Hughes...just to name a few

Rsaxton

01-10-2007, 11:06 AM

Everyone has read the post it is a new design, not the same as the ROAR national champ tiger LOL. You will see pics from toy fair

LD3Furious

01-10-2007, 12:43 PM

Funny thing is though, even despite that, the "other car(s) loyal" will still slam ya no matter what they read or who writes it.

bspate

01-10-2007, 09:16 PM

......I also race a Dace Preditor T-MAXX for Dale Dace of Dace Manufacture/Unlimited Engineering ..... love eating REVOS.
Eating Revo's?? Hehe, yea right!! I guess I'll have to go check the race results again from all the big races this year in the MT class and see how many T-Maxx's won.... :rolleyes: I could have sworn I haven't seen any in the results, but you say your T-Maxx will beat Revo's so there must be.

- bspate -

nitro_newbie

01-11-2007, 01:05 AM

wow this looks cool cant wait to see how it performs.

dacemaxx111

01-11-2007, 01:39 AM

[QUOTE=bspate]Eating Revo's?? Hehe, yea right!! I guess I'll have to go check the race results again from all the big races this year in the MT class and see how many T-Maxx's won.... :rolleyes: I could have sworn I haven't seen any in the results, but you say your T-Maxx will beat Revo's so there must be.

my t-maxx has a power to weight ratio that is much better than a revo and set-up,set-up,set-up is key to making a t-maxx handle.it weighs in at 7lbs and has EB modded OS 18TM,a revo trans with a center diff and a custom 30mm one-off extended chassis.i have many pics of it i love to see your reaction when you see it.steve slayden came to our track for a big race after seeing it action he came over to my pit after my a-main finish and was very impressed with it.his aproval was worth it all. you will see it at the end of this week here... http://www.traxxas.com/community/surfersrides/trx_surfers.htm

Bigedmond

01-11-2007, 01:42 AM

losi has alot more then 2 main drivers running the 8ight buggy. The only ones that arent would still be under contract from there previous car. But i know 2 kyosho drivers that are switching away from them because of there new team drivers rules. They want to go with AE since they like AE, but if losi offers first, thats where they are going.

thedarkness

01-11-2007, 11:10 AM

regular sponsored guys dont really choose where they go, they fire off the resumes hoping for a bite.If your at the point that you can choose exactly who you will and who you wont drive for you should be making a good living doing this instead of just a sponsored driver.

convikt

01-15-2007, 04:07 PM

I heard they scraped the idea when the Losi 8 came out.......It is a copy (of the 8) or it just wont compete....buy the thuder tiger it will be cheaper and the same

adam lancia

01-15-2007, 05:00 PM

I heard they scraped the idea when the Losi 8 came out.......It is a copy (of the 8) or it just wont compete....buy the thuder tiger it will be cheaper and the same

^^^ that's funnny......

Rsaxton

01-15-2007, 08:42 PM

no worries on that

winning edge designs

01-16-2007, 12:02 AM

LOL

...Jim

taztal3

01-16-2007, 07:36 AM

hi rsaxton
do they have website from toy fair ??

thank tommy

B4 Stealth

01-17-2007, 03:49 PM

I'm actually wondering how many cues from the thunder tiger buggies will show up on the new AE ride. The two brands definitly have ties. I believe that Thunder Tiger actually owns associated these days.
I talked to maifeild at the midwest champs and he says the RC8 will be %100 AE, no thunder tiger influence at all.

Chris Garcia

01-19-2007, 08:51 AM

After reading all the post,I think that the buggy is going to be ALL AE...But the diffs are still up in the air.

suckfish

01-19-2007, 10:09 AM

When are they goin gto let a us have a sneek peek..

B4 Stealth

01-19-2007, 02:19 PM

my guess is not soon enough lol :D

redneckracer197

01-19-2007, 02:39 PM

depending on what the truggy is like I might have to sell my LSP and go with AE for a truggy.

Cain

01-19-2007, 02:54 PM

The buggy and truggy (assumption) should be good. AE doesn't really have to go off the ranch here and come up with something radical for it to be a good vehicle. Especially with the quality level of the drivers they have. Most of the truggies and buggies out there in the right drivers hands can win any day, just cycle them all through the top driver and he probably will win with them most of the time unless the vehicle is utter crap.

What i will be interested in seeing is if AE will price the vehicle reasonably as well as parts reasonably, and try to really up durability. Performance is great no doubt, but if the common guy can't make it around the track with AE's vehicle in one piece versus another manufacturers vehicle, performance means exactly nothing.

All in all though it will make alot of AE fans happy. I won't be getting one due to my issues with AE's customer service, but I sure hope there are lots of new people at the track who decide to pick up one and race, more racers = more fun!

adam lancia

01-19-2007, 03:22 PM

When are they goin gto let a us have a sneek peek..

you'll see pictures of it from the nuremberg toy fair in a few weeks....paitence grasshopper ;)

badmojo13

01-23-2007, 09:17 PM

didn't they race at crcrc last weekend, anyone have any pics

WheelNut

01-23-2007, 09:55 PM

No it wasn't at CRCRC, but I think its first race is supposed to be at The Dirt nitro challenge on the 20th of feb. I don't know for sure though. I can't wait to see (well read about at least) the Losi vs. AE battle! Cavalieri/Mayfield vs. Drake.

adam lancia

01-24-2007, 07:53 AM

we'll see pics from when they unveil it at the toy fair in germany in 2 weeks.

RCSavage

01-24-2007, 08:29 AM

The AE vrs.Losi battle on the local tracks should be even better.

Rsaxton

01-27-2007, 11:40 AM

Soon

thedarkness

01-27-2007, 11:59 AM

whats a losi are those them silly things with imperial hardware LOL.

Bigedmond

01-27-2007, 12:26 PM

redneckracer197

01-27-2007, 02:42 PM

only thing I don't like about Losi and Associated is the imperial hardware.

Rsaxton

01-27-2007, 04:45 PM

RC10.com Wednesday noon or later RC8

thedarkness

01-27-2007, 08:00 PM

Cain

01-29-2007, 11:11 AM

cars dont win races, no car has ever crossed the finish line without a driver.

Good one!

NitroBoy24

01-29-2007, 06:59 PM

Hell yeah!!! It's about time Associated jumped into the mix!

joracer21

01-30-2007, 01:10 AM

this just popped up on GPs site

ASCASCC0600 1/8 RC8 Kit

Thats it so far

John Binz

01-30-2007, 02:45 PM

Heard there as pictures but can't find any?

JeffEmbracedDC

01-30-2007, 02:57 PM

this just popped up on GPs site

ASCASCC0600 1/8 RC8 Kit

Thats it so far

GP? What's that?

-J

suckfish

01-30-2007, 03:57 PM

RC10.com Wednesday noon or later RC8
Tomorrow ? ?

BMM

01-30-2007, 04:48 PM

would expect so - the European version of the Chicago show starts tommorow so assume it will be displayed there?!!?

novacrzy

01-30-2007, 08:46 PM

give a link to the gp site

TTRS3kid

01-30-2007, 11:12 PM

I cant wait until it comes ouit. Im stoked for 1/8th scale season to start up again :D

WheelNut

01-30-2007, 11:33 PM

Pics will be shown on rc10.com tommorow at noon.

JeffEmbracedDC

01-30-2007, 11:37 PM

Sweet! This is really exciting. I would hope they try something at least slightly revolutionary. A different design that would actually make someone choose the associaied over another buggy and not just go by the name. I'm a big fan of AE products, but there are so many proven 1/8th buggies around that I'm wondering if AE can really come out with something better or even equal with their first try.

adam lancia

01-30-2007, 11:38 PM

Great Planes/Tower Hobbies i believe.......

joracer21

01-30-2007, 11:45 PM

ya great planes thier are two major distrupters and the other is horizon GP (great planes) had it on thier search engine for dealers.

balang_479

01-31-2007, 12:43 PM

A pic on NeoBuggy of the wing was spotted and soon some more pics should be coming in:

http://www.neobuggy.net/images/News/rc81.jpg

Rsaxton

01-31-2007, 02:56 PM

this is floating around, more to come rc10.com

http://www.rctech.net/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=200483

Casper

01-31-2007, 03:28 PM

Shocks are really leaned in. Wing looks really high off the car as well. There are more pics over at RCtech.net.

LD3Furious

01-31-2007, 03:32 PM

I just got this off the SGrid...

http://www.gregrojna.com/rc8.html

JeffEmbracedDC

01-31-2007, 03:44 PM

CoryD

01-31-2007, 03:46 PM

I have to admit that it's cool to see AE coming in to the field, but honestly the buggy looks like nothing special. Meh. I don't know. It looks pretty standard. I like the carbon fiber a lot VS use of aluminum in most buggies...

The 1st gen XB8 was all carbon fiber -- they went to Al. with the TQ buggies -- must be a reason for it...

Later,

bobby363

01-31-2007, 04:07 PM

http://www.gregrojna.com/rc8.html

Dont like the shock towers.. I saw a MBX5 with aftermarket CF towers that broke after a hard crash :roll2:

JeffEmbracedDC

01-31-2007, 04:18 PM

Yeah, that's true. You can finish a race with a slightly bent shock tower.. but with one that's snapped you're pretty much screwed. I like CF for 1/10th scale, but I don't know how it will work out on an 1/8th. We'll see! :)

-J

Rsaxton

01-31-2007, 04:48 PM

Look at the size of the tower, also there is no gap inbetween the ears, it is solid, way strong

FLYBOY7

01-31-2007, 05:34 PM

yo Richard......

you come from the motocross world.... the only reason to have shocks that long are for more oil capacity, to keep the oil cooler.... and that's never been a problem in the rc world....

so why such long shocks anyways?? the higher the tower sticks up, the more leverage there is to break them..... and the lower you could keep them, the lighter they could be, and lower cg as well..... did you have to use the long shocks because they were already in the TTR parts bin?? i just don't see a reason for them in the rc world other than "look at how big our shocks are".....

JBeckton

01-31-2007, 07:58 PM

yo Richard......

you come from the motocross world.... the only reason to have shocks that long are for more oil capacity, to keep the oil cooler.... and that's never been a problem in the rc world....

so why such long shocks anyways?? the higher the tower sticks up, the more leverage there is to break them..... and the lower you could keep them, the lighter they could be, and lower cg as well..... did you have to use the long shocks because they were already in the TTR parts bin?? i just don't see a reason for them in the rc world other than "look at how big our shocks are".....

Longer shocks = more suspension travel, this is a good thing in off road. If shorter was better then they would be shorter! The 1/8 scale market is very competetive, things that just look good but do not perform do not get a good market share.

JBeckton

01-31-2007, 08:14 PM

yea, the silly car with imperial hardware. The same car the set the record at the buggy nats for qualifying first all 4 rounds. Its also the silly car that, well locally is the dominate car on the track, over every metric hardware car here. Silly isn't it.

Something to consider, if you have 20 buggy racers at a local track on a regular basis and the 10 fastest drivers switch to Losi 8ight and continue to be fast. Then one might think the Losi 8ight is a radical advancement in engineering and it's the greatest thing to hit the sport since batteries. But it's not, it is however a great buggy and one of only about 4 or 5 that I would even consider putting on my starter box.

The top 4 or 5 buggies on the market pretty much have a good design and they are durable enough for a Pro to put them through a hard day at the track. The rest of it is pure talent...

prodot

01-31-2007, 10:24 PM

yo Richard......

you come from the motocross world.... the only reason to have shocks that long are for more oil capacity, to keep the oil cooler.... and that's never been a problem in the rc world.....

Keeping the oil cooler in the shocks is and has been a problem in the RC World, especially in rally cross! The Hyper 7 and Hyper 8 both suffer with the oil over heating in the shocks! In a 30+ minute final, when the track starts to get cut up the shocks are working over time! And if there is not enough volume of oil in the shock, it gets over heated and thins out, making the handling of the car unpredictable! Why do you think 'all' the top RC companies are coming out with Big Bore shocks.

I must say though, I am very disappointed with the looks of this buggy. With all the Hype said about it I was expecting something quite radical/different a brake away from the Norm, But AE have taken the 'Safe' route and gone with a 'standard' rally cross lay out. This is of course not to say that the car won't handle well as I'm sure it will, 'But' it does show that AE are no longer at the top of the tree when it comes to producing the best innovative none 'standard' design buggy! That crown now belongs to Losi. Losi were brave enough to build something different from every one else, but they didn't just make it to 'just be different', everything that has been designed on the Losi has been done so to improve the performance over the 'standard' Rally Cross lay out/Design. The Losi 8ight is a performance car! And in the hands of a good driver you will go faster with the 8ight! I have raced a lot of other good cars! But none have been as good as the 8ight!!!! My opinion is this, if you want to be a sheep and want to race a car that looks just like all the others or just because of who makes it, then this car is for you! But! if you want to race a car that is at the top when it comes to forward thinking, modern innovative design and the ultimate on track performance! then it's simple, 'LOSI'.!!!

jnegrx

01-31-2007, 11:07 PM

Sure the Losi looks totaly diferent from all others but how many National titles or big races for that matter have it's drivers won? The Losi is ultra fast but why does it always qualifies very well but never wins? Don't get me wrong I like the design aspect of the Losi and think that they did a great job on the car but sometimes what is good on paper is not the best for the real world.

No one can say that Drake or Amezcua(?) are bad drivers, then why haven't they been able to win?

I just say lets wait until we, the ordinary racers, have time with the cars and then say who made the best car.

FLYBOY7

02-01-2007, 12:36 AM

someone mentioned longer shocks equals more travel... more potential travel perhaps..... but you could have twice the travel on an RC8 with shocks half as long.... a quick look at any modern motocross bike, or even the Traxxas Revo will teach you this.....

and why do i think "all" the manufactures are coming out with "big bore" shocks??? mainly for bling, not for lowered oil temps..... sorry to be so honest.....

i've raced some 8th scale.... and i've run 30 minute mains before.... and i've never felt a shock body 20 degree over ambient, let alone "hot"....

and even if they were getting hot, a much shorter shock with a larger diameter, or one with a built on or remote reserve could hold just as much, if not more oil to fight the heat..... while still lowering cg, and much reduced chances of breaking a tower or shock shaft... and to me, breakage in 8th scale is the biggest problem they have left....

i only brought this up because i expect something new and Better from AE on this project, not the same old outdated designs.....

t9dragon

02-01-2007, 12:46 AM

Here are some pics.........................

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k294/t9dragon/RC8/80900f.jpg

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k294/t9dragon/RC8/80900b_300.jpg

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k294/t9dragon/RC8/80900e_300.jpg

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k294/t9dragon/RC8/80900d_300.jpg

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k294/t9dragon/RC8/80900c_300.jpg

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k294/t9dragon/RC8/80900a_300.jpg

Here is a new thread for the RC8...........
http://forums.radiocontrolzone.com/showthread.php?t=233161

JBeckton

02-01-2007, 08:29 AM

But AE have taken the 'Safe' route and gone with a 'standard' rally cross lay out. This is of course not to say that the car won't handle well as I'm sure it will, 'But' it does show that AE are no longer at the top of the tree when it comes to producing the best innovative none 'standard' design buggy! That crown now belongs to Losi.

I am a bit confused as to why people are bashing AE because they did not unvale some futuristic unlike anything else buggy design? Look at all the past buggies they have produced, Most all of the 1/10 scale buggy and trucks they have build in the last 15 years have been the same standard design with improvements. I have not seen or heard of anyone bashing them for that.

Would you people be happier if they put out some totally new design, unlike anything else out there. And it was so different than anything else that you had to buy proprietary motor and radio gear etc... available from only one dealer in the whole world?

There are many other things to consider when designing a new buggy and doing something totally different is not always the best route.

For those of you that race to win, would you rather run something that is a proven design or beta test something radically different that may or may not perform to standard? The Losi 8ight is not that much different.

The Team Magic is totally innovative & different, so I invite you new AE haters to buy an M1. I dare you!

Also I think some people should re-read all the official hype for the RC8. I have not been able to find any official or nearly official news or information bragging about a totally different buggy design unlike anything else, Actually I believe it's quite the contrary.

RCSavage

02-01-2007, 08:39 AM

glassdoctor

02-01-2007, 12:54 PM

No kidding... the Losi just came out last October... at the end of the race season. Of course the team drivers did some racing with it during the summer but you can't bust on them for not winning everything before it's even in production.

It will be good times this summer watching the ol AE vs. Losi battle on the big track.

mugenX5

02-01-2007, 01:21 PM

and why do i think "all" the manufactures are coming out with "big bore" shocks??? mainly for bling, not for lowered oil temps..... sorry to be so honest.....

i've raced some 8th scale.... and i've run 30 minute mains before.... and i've never felt a shock body 20 degree over ambient, let alone "hot"....

...

You mean to tell me , after a 1/2 hour race, your shock oil isn't boiling away? :rolleyes:

I've got to agree with you, shock oil temps will never be a problem in rc. It's all marketing hype.

I love the "lower cg" line some companies use too. Look at all 1/8 chassis', they're all milled out to reduce weight and lower the cg , right? Will removing 1/2 ounce of aluminum from a chassis really affect an 8lb car? And angling the shocks in a little more? Are you really going to notice a difference in the cg ? No! Got to love the magazines too. I've built up this 14lb monster truck to compete at a National level, but I've installed a smaller fuel tank to reduce weight and lower the cg LOL:rolleyes:

This car has to last through a season of racing and not feel like a pile of slop after for it to survive. Having World class drivers win every weekend doesn't sell cars anymore.

Isn't that brake linkage from the TTR S3? So that makes this car, what, 98% AE ?

And those upper arms look extremely small. :confused:

BMM

02-01-2007, 01:25 PM

Having seen this in the flesh today I have to say that I was impressed with it, many nice features and a design that is not simply a fad, many 1/8th buggies look the same for a reason - it works.

It is very much not a Thunder Tiger product - all the R+D seems to be US based .

Very well put together and a general feel of quality which is only seen on the very best buggies.

Pete

vgerdes

02-01-2007, 05:06 PM

<a href="http://www.buggy-sport.info/include.php?path=content/news.php&contentid=5656">Even more Team Associated RC8 close ups</a>

--<br>
Volker<br>
http://www.Buggy-Sport.Info

Monsterbrad

02-01-2007, 06:07 PM

The Competition just gets better and better for the 1/8 scale war.
This is going to be cool to see Losi and Associated go at it.
This buggy from the pics which mean nothing looks pretty good.
Time will tell.

Rufus

02-01-2007, 06:23 PM

Hey, With these news we can only get happier as I'm sure we'll have a peek at another vehicle very soon...

AE Truggy anyone?
:D

Bigedmond

02-01-2007, 06:27 PM

Sure the Losi looks totaly diferent from all others but how many National titles or big races for that matter have it's drivers won?

This is a stupid thing to say. its like me saying how many nationals has this car won?? Losi has good drivers, and so does AE. AE vs Losi has been the biggest rivalry there has ever been in the world of RC. But to start the standard AE rant about national titles is just plain stupid. The only place that matters really about how this car does is how it does when its in our hands. Not the hands of a pro that gets lots of money to do this, hardly wrecks it, so it seems like it never breaks.

I was thinking about waiting for this car, since i love my GT2 so much, but i ended up getting an 8ight for a killer deal. Now that i see the RC8, im glad i didnt wait. Well see how good this car really in in march at the silver state race, which i will be at, and i will post pictures of this car running. I might take my camcorder and show a few laps.

JBeckton

02-01-2007, 06:53 PM

Well hopefully they will be reasonable on the price when they come out. If it overpriced I will be mad, otherwise Ima get me one a deez!

t9dragon

02-01-2007, 07:08 PM

I look at it this way, at least my LHS will carry parts for the Losi 8ight & the Associated RC8. That is why I gave up on the 1/8 buggies because I got tried of searching and then ordering parts online for the buggies & truggies I had.

jnegrx

02-02-2007, 12:18 AM

This is a stupid thing to say. its like me saying how many nationals has this car won?? Losi has good drivers, and so does AE. AE vs Losi has been the biggest rivalry there has ever been in the world of RC. But to start the standard AE rant about national titles is just plain stupid. The only place that matters really about how this car does is how it does when its in our hands. Not the hands of a pro that gets lots of money to do this, hardly wrecks it, so it seems like it never breaks.

I was thinking about waiting for this car, since i love my GT2 so much, but i ended up getting an 8ight for a killer deal. Now that i see the RC8, im glad i didnt wait. Well see how good this car really in in march at the silver state race, which i will be at, and i will post pictures of this car running. I might take my camcorder and show a few laps.

If you just read the last sentence you will see what I meant. In paper and photos we can't compare anything. So either you don't read everything before you get all p.... or you just don't care. I have had a lot of 1/8 from most brands and I have driven the Losi and think it's a great car and I'm not bashing Losi or any other brand. If that was the only thing that was understood then I'm sorry!

Bigedmond

02-02-2007, 02:30 AM

If you just read the last sentence you will see what I meant. In paper and photos we can't compare anything. So either you don't read everything before you get all p.... or you just don't care. I have had a lot of 1/8 from most brands and I have driven the Losi and think it's a great car and I'm not bashing Losi or any other brand. If that was the only thing that was understood then I'm sorry!

I was just afriad you were jumping on the "its made by AE so its the best evar" band wagon. I have had my losi 8ight for 2 weeks now, and coming from jammin products, i really like it. This maybe a great design, we just dont know. March is coming soon, which means silver state is coming. I am willing to bet this will be there.

Cain

02-02-2007, 11:41 AM

The vehicle for AE first attempt looks good. I agree I don't like CF shock towers, Those would be the first thing that would go as on the CEN Matrix Pro I didn't like them when I saw them, so hopefully does like CEN did and make some really great CNC'd shock towers.

This vehicle will have its share of wins no doubt on the factory level, but where it counts for me is to see what it can do in the hands of the average joe. If it is durable, handles as well as the other buggies, and doesn't slop out like other vehicles I have heard about, I would say it will be a success.

Good first try for AE I would say so far. Teething pains will come, so be prepared if you are an early adopter.

Monsterbrad

02-02-2007, 02:10 PM

You guys compare pro drivers that could drive a 2x4 with wheels and an engine on it and win.
For us guys that race once a week at the normal track or whatever these are the people that will have the real tests on the car!
Not to bash Losi cause I own 2 Losi products right now the 8ight has issues but they all do in some way or another.
It's all preference and how much money you are willing to spend.

Ball Racing

03-05-2007, 08:28 AM

Well I saw pictures of it in the other magazine, and well shock angle looks like the biggest difference compared to other buggies, and that smaller carbon shock tower.

mugenX5

03-05-2007, 09:22 AM

This vehicle will have its share of wins no doubt on the factory level, but where it counts for me is to see what it can do in the hands of the average joe. If it is durable, handles as well as the other buggies, and doesn't slop out like other vehicles I have heard about, I would say it will be a success.

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Exactly. How this car wears and if parts durability is not an issue, the car will be a hit. From past experience with AE products, I think they have done their homework. THey don't go out on a limb with a funky design, but rather stick with something that works. The Losi, though looks like a winner and may be in the hands of a pro, will most likely be back on the drawing board this year or next. I'm willing to bet Losi comes out with a more traditional chassis layout and bigger diff bearings .