Post Your wild and crazy Overkill Machines

[elmo_cecil]

i want to create a gallery of overkill machines... Brushless, very few turn, lipo, 12 cell nimh???... you tell me... just want to see some pictures of ride that will make me feel less crazy... here are my rides...

over kill doesn't need to mean expensive or fast (it may) but really any idea that was just taken too far.... 1/4 scale servo.... gyro steering.... twin gas... custome chassis... just looking for some cool pics of stuff that isn't stock....

[elmo_cecil]

first car dual mamba 8k, 16/60/16 gearing 2Xesc 2X3Slipo
second car mamba maxx 5700 2X 3S lipo

[glassdoctor]

I have a serious question... how can any 18th scale drivetrain hold up to something like a MM 5700???

Same ? regarding the rest of the vehicle... doesn't it pretty much get destroyed???

[elmo_cecil]

lots of upgrades... alloys gears, steel diffs, steel cvd's.. custom cut 3/16" CF chassis, titanium reinforcement plates (mcmaster-carr)... and wheel slip... wrecks are bad though..also try to minimize friction asnd reistance and align everything.. plus wheel bearing grease in diff cases... andlowest motor timing so far... and ratio is 26/60 so torque is limited... i actually find the dual mamba a little harder on drivetrain as gearing and tires apply more shock to drivetrain and wheel slip is limited... with wheelie bar

[TheSteve]

Interesting setups forsure. My most insane vehicle is a 10th scale Losi Jrxs with 3S LiPo and a Mamba Max 5700. My RC18T has a Mamba 8000 and 2S LiPo, its already as fast as I need it to be. My M18 has a Mamba 8000 and 2S LiPo for fast tracks and a Mamba 4200 for tighter tracks. Mini Inferno has a Wraith 7000 with 3S LiPo. I absolutely love fast cars but I also want to be able to control and race them.
I think you may have more fun putting some serious horsepower in a 10th scale car so it can take the power and still perform well. I could be wrong though, nothing wrong with some insanity in a very small package!

[BoysToys]

This is as crazy as any of my trucks get.
Losi XXX-T, Mamba Max 5700, MaxAmps 3S2P 11.1v 6000mah Lipo. Controlled with a Spektrum DX3.0

[glassdoctor]

I don't have any really insane stuff... mine is all rather practical race-oriented :)

My 1/8 buggy will do almost 60mph with the right motor/gearing combo but normally I have it setup for 35-40 tops for racing.

But I do have some ideas in mind so I can say I have an insane r/c.... something 1/10 scale with 1/8 BL power is all I can say for now. We'll see what happens if I get some time.

[mugenX5]

Not that insane, but insanely fun............and dirty. My mf2 / cc 5700 on 3s puts a smile on my face too:D

[mugenX5]

wont' upload pics.

[minitee]

This is as crazy as any of my trucks get.
Losi XXX-T, Mamba Max 5700, MaxAmps 3S2P 11.1v 6000mah Lipo. Controlled with a Spektrum DX3.0
Hi,nice truck.And a q?.Where did you get those nice red battery straps? :wave:

[one85_db]

Hi,nice truck.And a q?.Where did you get those nice red battery straps? :wave:
i got some just like that at walmart. they are for bundling cords. can be found in electrical section as well as some other places in most walmarts.

I have a bandit rustler conversion, using a MM 7700 and an orion 4800 LiPo.
I had to build a wheely bar, and make new mounts for the body; the body and the body mounts were destroyed by the brushless power. I had to replace the rear shocks with aluminum, the axles and drive shafts with MIP CVDs, the plastic idler with aluminum, the plastic spur with aluminum, the plastic differential with aluminum/steel, all the hub carriers with RPM pieces with 5x11 bearing, all the A-arms with RPM parts, and the caster links with RPM parts. Even the servo had to be upgraded to a metal gear part, as well as the steering links all the way through had to be replace with stronger parts.

I have picts on photobucket but they dont work here...

[elmo_cecil]

over kill doesn't need to mean expensive or fast (it may) but really any idea that was just taken too far.... 1/4 scale servo.... gyro steering.... twin gas... custome chassis... just looking for some cool pics of stuff that isn't stock....

[elmo_cecil]

nice rides everybody.....

[BoysToys]

Hi,nice truck.And a q?.Where did you get those nice red battery straps? :wave:
I got them from the Home Depot. The are for wraping up electrical cords like
one85_db posted. I made the battery strap from a piece of Lexan, also from the Home Depot. The 3s2p lipo is about 1.5cm thicker than a normal NIMH pack. This setup seems to be hold the pack very well.

[mugenX5]

Let's try again: xb8, 9xl, 125b, 2 x 3s1p A123 li-ion cells, stock gearing, and a theres rubber mounts for the esc to isolate vibrations. It's dirty and it's a wiring nightmare but I just wanted to see what it'll do. Just like everything else, it's an ongoing project. Also, note where my antenna is ( 3pks with 2.4 fasst ) with no problems at all.

[elmo_cecil]

looks sweet

[ta_man]

Let's try again: xb8, 9xl, 125b, 2 x 3s1p A123 li-ion cells, stock gearing, and a theres rubber mounts for the esc to isolate vibrations. It's dirty and it's a wiring nightmare but I just wanted to see what it'll do. Just like everything else, it's an ongoing project. Also, note where my antenna is ( 3pks with 2.4 fasst ) with no problems at all.
Is that pinion something you got from Finedesignrc or did you make it yourself?

If you made it yourself, I would be interested in how because I need one too.

[mugenX5]

I made an aluminum arbor inside of the clutchbell with 2 screws on the front and two 1/4-28 set screws on the o.d. It's not pretty, but it's functional and wont' come off. I wanted to keep the stock brakes and there wasn't enough clearance with the pinion I bought, so I just used a 13t clutchbell that I had laying around.

PM me if you need something made.

[elmo_cecil]

homemade parts are awesom esp if they do the job better.. rock on mugen... sweet ride BTW

[ElectricThunder]

Crazy rides elmo! That's some serious stuff (especially the 5700 powered 18t!). AWESOME! Have those things been featured in any articles or magazines? :confused:

[elmo_cecil]

not that i know of... lol... should they be?.. lol i need to clean them up then huh.... anyway... thanks for the suggestion.. i am kinda proud of them.... even though they have been called a waste of money by jealous people... actually i think joe ford says he got a pic up on some wall at CC but that was a couple of weeks ago

[ElectricThunder]

Elmo...they're nothing but a waste of money. Don't ever do that again....teeheehee!:p

They have a certain "cool" factor. Plus I've never seen setups done in the 18t like that before (brushed...i've seen the twin motor thing, but dual BL! WOO!).

[NoLaD]

Well, I had the pleasure of watching a Robotronics Scapel (1/18th pan car) with a Lehner 4200 Basic and 3s lipo. That thing literally flew when it hit rocks

As far as my rides.. only a 14.4v MBX Pro and a Mambafied RC18t

[pinolelst]

elmo cecil
I might have asked this before but about the dual motors on a common spur gear.I was told at one time that they have to be set up very carefully because the two seperate esc's would have a hard time synching the two motors timing precisely.Something about the esc telling a motor one thing and the spur driven by the other motor forcing it to do another.Maybe things have changed since then but did you take any special steps during set up or encounter any obvious problems when you ran it ??
Thanks for your time

pinolelst

[jocktheglide165]

semi brushless (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/rapunzel_1/IMG_1553.jpg)
semi brushless 2 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/rapunzel_1/IMG_1552.jpg)

[mud 4 me]

Hey elmo cecil can we see some videos of your two rc18's? I bet those things fly.

[elmo_cecil]

wow... brushless semi.. that rocks...

twin motors... hmmm... setup.... well i matched the systems 16/60 gearing, 8000rpm/volt mamba with matching ESCs and 1320 3Clipo's.. i set up the throttle curves... i made sure they were aligned and there is not drivetrain resistance... i spoke to a couple people (none from CC) and we all are under the impression electric motors produce a constant torque when electricity is applied the idea being no matter what rpm they are running they will aplly an ammount of torque... so splitting the load between two motors should effectivly double the torque and not be detrimental to the motors... the first time i set it up i actuallyused a 6800 on a 3C and a 8000 on a 2C and it didn't run hot at all... i decided to match things up to make sure here would be no problems... it did seems to chew up spur gears quickly (even AL spurgears)...

video... as soon as time permits my digital camera sux for video (does quicktime videos that are hard for me to modify plus the wife is kinda not in the mood to watch me play with my expensive toys) a guy from work is kinda interested and helps me make videos but right now is not good for us to shoot videos at work (big wigs in from europe and we have to look busy) so maybe once they leave and weather gets a bit warmer plus everytime we shoot a video i wreck bad... always trying to show off...

side note... i am always hearing about people melting or stripping diff gears in rc18ts with BL motor or any high power motors... i have had no such problems since switching to AL gear boxes with shimmed super diffs... (in fact i am running the same diffs in the maxx that orignally ran in the first twin motor set-up and have never rebuilt) anybody else running crazy rc18s with no diff problems?...

anyway thanks for posting and hope to see some more rides....

one last thing.. what is up with the abc123 li-ion batteries... they are not explosive? do they have similar capacities?... i saw the one ride with two pack and thought cool.. plus with such small car and six lipo cells wrecks and the fear of explosions really worry me...

[IBJAMMIN]

Here is a couple of mine my brushless crt I'm working on and my 80mph 18B notice the 2 broken pinion shafts on the Wraith motors :( 14.8 volts is to much for the Wraith's I found out to bad if they held together I think 90mph plus would be posible. :D

[eVaDeR85]

^ wow thats some serious torque-age there lol. Especially when you start breaking an twisting motor shafts. Makes you wonder how on earth the magnet can be attached to the shaft good enough to handle that much torque, even more so imagine the strength of the electromagnetic field inside that motor can :wow:

[elmo_cecil]

wow i only broke a motor shaft when a CVD came loose and got between a spur and pinion.... impessive... nice rider btw

[NORTEX-T1FK]

http://forums.radiocontrolzone.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=71229&stc=1
I love it!

[JDT]

how do you link to just a picture in one of the forums?

[vashon10]

how do you link to just a picture in one of the forums?

Right-click on the pic and get the properties, that gives you the address to link to.

[JDT]

http://forums.radiocontrolzone.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=69367&stc=1

http://forums.radiocontrolzone.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=69363&stc=1

tamiya df 02 based truggy conversion, mm5700 geared 14.46fdr(84/15/2.6diff) , 6cell and 2s is fun,3s is overkill for sure in a $100 tamiya chassis lol.

[rc monkey]

Tamiya Dark Impact with MM7700 :D :D Its FAST!!!!! :eek:

[Vato Loco]

My MM5700/A123Li-ion 2s2p and traxxas Rustler/Pede.....Rustypede!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sk-i4OxkM6M
there's a few vids of this creation! Check out the rusty on the roof! and ride with the rusty! Get a feel for life of my pede!LOL's

[mp3ranger]

This is my custom made micro rs4
More photos here (http://www.sounddomain.com/ride/598686/16)

[elmo_cecil]

friggin wicked..... love it

[ElectricThunder]

This is my custom made micro rs4
More photos here (http://www.sounddomain.com/ride/598686/16)
Sick... I've heard of people running BL 540 motors in the micro RS4s with the 540 conversion. INSANE stuff. :eek:

[elmo_cecil]

a video.... after filming i noticed the AL spur was stripped.... ordered a titanium one... hopefully it will last longer than the 15 minutes this one did....

http://www.one18th.com/gallery/albums/album01/avzu.avi
http://www.one18th.com/gallery/albums/album01/avzv.avi

[Vato Loco]

Here's some more pic's of my baby!
http://www.ultimaterc.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=lastup&cat=-203
The bus ain't bl yet but soon!

[elmo_cecil]

love the bus

[Vato Loco]

I done that bus a while back and when i first showed it nobody liked it? Now when people rifle through the gallery they go nuts over it now? Those kids will puke their lunches when the bus hits warp drive!

[90MPHTC4]

Here's some of my Mambafied 06 Pede.

[elmo_cecil]

looking good 'pede man

[maxxmustang]

oooo...video!!!^^

[elmo_cecil]

Before i started:
rc18mt
1/8" CF chassis i cut with gear boxes on same plane
AL gear boxes, Arms, shock towers, shocks and rims
Super diffs with carbide
CVDs
Mamba maxx 5700 with 26T spur
AL Spur 60T
Mamba maxx ESC
Custom steering with 1/10 servo
2 X 3S lipo 1500 mah 40A surge

recent problems
MT tires rubbing battery turning tight turns
stripping spur gears

repairs/mods done recently
56T titanium spur installed (gearchart.com says theoretical 96.75 MPH definatly with foams)
skid plate for motor and battery box out of 1/8 and 1/32 inch CF
Plate for Volt meter and stwitch
rebuilt super diff...

hope get some litium grease and graphite powder and make some custom grease for spur and motor gear... then take it for a test run.... stwaying away from curbs and high speed until it can survive some bashing..

[90MPHTC4]

I will see if i can get a video of it. I have finally gotten all the RPM parts installed..Running 19/90 on a 6cell IB4200 sportpack with the mamba setting at the lowest settings available and the thing still pulls wheelies....its nuts. But hey its overkill right?

[trxcrazy345]

you are crazy what size wheels are those on the wheelie bar? those are sweet cars

[90MPHTC4]

The wheels on the wheelie bar are from a losi mini-t.

[trevor0876]

Great lookn' cars guys. I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks it has to be practical to be fun.

[Combatcm]

I was trying to build the perfect all around car. It's a fun car to drive, takes jumps well, the drivetrain is bulletproof and it looks great.

8 cells, 8s motor

[elmo_cecil]

what motor is that?

[EarlThePearl]

This is as crazy as any of my trucks get.
Losi XXX-T, Mamba Max 5700, MaxAmps 3S2P 11.1v 6000mah Lipo. Controlled with a Spektrum DX3.0

Man I thought my XXX-T was fast, that thing must be insane.

XXX-T MF2, GTB 5.5 brushless, MaxAmps 7.4V 6000mah Lipo, Spektrum DX 2.0

[BoysToys]

Man I thought my XXX-T was fast, that thing must be insane.

Earl- Is that a 2s2p lipo? I see it fits under your stock battery retainer. How tight is the fit? I am thinking of getting the 2s2p 6000 or 8000 pack next month. Thanks

I had a Novak 5.5R in mine for a couple of months. It was more power than I could use in the dirt but not as fast as I wanted when running in the street. So I switched to the Mamba 5700 I only use the 3s lipo when playing in the street or a large parking lot. I am guessing it runs about 50-55mph. When I run in the dirt I switch to a 6 cell IB4200wc pack.

[pinolelst]

I have a 3s 4400 mah lipo that fits in my xxx-t battery tray with the strap so 2s packs should be relatively easy to fit.Most makers have a dimensions page for their packs

hope this helps

pinolelst

[NORTEX-T1FK]

Earl, I have the same setup right now(with the 5.5). I have a 4.5 also and a let me just say that the 4.5 is way faster than the 5.5. The 4.5 will pop it up on two wheels with a 21 pinion but is just too hard on the tranny, thats why I have the 5.5 in there now.

I just got back from the LHS since I slamed it into my mailbox and busted the front kick plate and a shock when the lipo low volt cutoff kicked in.

And Boystoys, the 6000mah lipo fits in there just fine ;)

[pcnutz]

Left is my hybrid with 540c 9xl 18.97 14 gp3300's

Right is my UE/Bomb with 540c 9xl Hacker comp 14 gp3300's

HTTP://users.adelphia.net/~tjjohnson2/newhot.jpg

[elmo_cecil]

dude beasty

[EarlThePearl]

Earl- Is that a 2s2p lipo? I see it fits under your stock battery retainer. How tight is the fit? I am thinking of getting the 2s2p 6000 or 8000 pack next month. Thanks

I had a Novak 5.5R in mine for a couple of months. It was more power than I could use in the dirt but not as fast as I wanted when running in the street. So I switched to the Mamba 5700 I only use the 3s lipo when playing in the street or a large parking lot. I am guessing it runs about 50-55mph. When I run in the dirt I switch to a 6 cell IB4200wc pack.

The MaxAmps 2 cell lipo fits near perfect in the XXX-T. I flipped the battery strap over. I also notched out a divot in the battery wall so there wouldn't be any stress on the negative wire coming out of the battery. Easy job with a cordless dremel.


Earl, I have the same setup right now(with the 5.5). I have a 4.5 also and a let me just say that the 4.5 is way faster than the 5.5. The 4.5 will pop it up on two wheels with a 21 pinion but is just too hard on the tranny, thats why I have the 5.5 in there now.

I just got back from the LHS since I slamed it into my mailbox and busted the front kick plate and a shock when the lipo low volt cutoff kicked in.

And Boystoys, the 6000mah lipo fits in there just fine ;)

I was thinking about getting the 3.5 myself. The 5.5 was the fastest they had when I bought the motor system last year. I only run a 16T pinion and it is retarded fast already. Can't imagine a 3.5R motor on a 20T pinion. I might find out though. ;)

[90MPHTC4]

Just thought I would post some new pics. 06Pede W/trailer and TC4. And 1969 camaro on revo.

[elmo_cecil]

sweet rides...

[90MPHTC4]

Thanks will be adding Lights to the pede and trailer soon. Gotta love Mamba Power thing does 35+ towing the trailer and TC4. The Revo will be supercharged soon.

[elmo_cecil]

new pics... think of a wide suspension kit and sway bars... gearing right no is 26/56 and thinking of upping it to 35/56 or possible 40/56 if motor temp will stay down... right now theoretical is 88MPH

[Karadjas]

sick puppies :D

[maxxmustang]

h-o-l-y crap! please tell me thats a 7700?

[elmo_cecil]

nah its a 5700 running 3S lipo.. but i got a 7700 nib for sale?

[elmo_cecil]

5700 running a rated 3s is faster than 7700 running a rated 2S.. but thanks... i got som earlier pics earlier in the post.... rc18t btw

[Eli the rc guy]

I like 90MPH cars better ^^, but anything with a brushless is cool...

[90MPHTC4]

I'm thinking about converting the revo to twin mamba's. That should be interesting.....lol

[elmo_cecil]

i like 90mph's cars more too... :);)

[EarlThePearl]

I'm thinking about converting the revo to twin mamba's. That should be interesting.....lol

I've seen a video of a brushless Revo, it looked pretty sick. Wheelies on demand at most speeds.

[BoysToys]

I made a couple of speed passes today with my XXX-T/Mamba 5700/3s2p lipo. Highest Speed 57.3mph I am sure that there is more in it but I will have to find a longer street to test in. This thing is just CRAZY!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/BBates/SpeedRuns004smallcircle-1.jpg

[IBJAMMIN]

Hey ELMO could you do me a favor I'm trying to get the wiring finished up on my CRT and I had a short and a couple of wire came off the ESC dont know if there was any damage but I cant see where the black wire goes into the ESC? see pic I cant find any pics or diagrams for the mamba max?

Could you take a close up pic of the back side of your Mamba max ESC where the wires enter the ESC? I need to see where the black wire off the switch goes? battery - ? or is there a spot on the board it goes into? :confused:

[elmo_cecil]

one sec.. i just blew apart a super diff so i got the car out... shattered part of the tube and the balls came out... looking up titanium diffs.. or spools... btw that is a SICK ride....

[elmo_cecil]

wow dude sux to be you... ok... there is a solder SMT pad in between the red wire and the batter + wire... it should be visible right under the orange wire for the receiver lead.... you are going to need a very very fine soldering iron (got one at work for SMT prototyping but i dont even own one that fine)... might consider sending back to CC so they can remove the case to get more access... after looking at my wires id say after they are connected a bead of hot glue would help the wire from breaking sue t vibration... comment back if you need more help locating the pad... my digi-cam wont zoom in that much

[trxcrazy345]

nah its a 5700 running 3S lipo.. but i got a 7700 nib for sale?
how much for that 7700? Does it have the mamba max esc?

[elmo_cecil]

here is a question for you guys.... i am looking for a basher... i want 4wd, decent ground clearance, supply of hop-up parts and ability to handle 2S lipo with 7700 mamba max... i am going up to alaska for a vacation and wanna some bashing/rock climbing... i was thinking a rustler but it seems traxxas isn't a good choice... was considering an e-max but it is kinda pricey and has that dual motor set-up... any recommendations?

[elmo_cecil]

lol $50 plus shipping

[trxcrazy345]

not very many 4wd trucks that are cheap your best bet would be get an e-maxx roller for cheap.

[elmo_cecil]

how hard would it be to mod a whellie king?... what about E-savage Vs. E-max... what aboout associated buggies with paddles... do they hold up? i know they are 2WD... then other one would be tower 3-pay (AE 4.6 monster, warhead, t-maxx)

[IBJAMMIN]

Thanks
Yeah I see where it goes now I just went to Hobby people and looked at a new one they had the 7700 Mamba max on sale for 179.00 so I just bought a new one I want to get this thing going tonight. I have a friend at the studio that is a electronics wiz I'm sure he can re solder the wire to the board I will use that ESC in my RC10GT brushless conversion. :)

[elmo_cecil]

good deal... i am looking into a thundertiger MT with a .70 motor... dreaming i guess.. GL

[Mod Man]

My 64 MPH Tamiya Dark Impact running a Hacker C40 12T on 6S and my 100+ MPH TC4 running a "Big Block" Neu 1512/2D on 6S.

Matt

[IBJAMMIN]

Well I finally got it going and all I gota say is WOW definetly faster then my novarossi 421B turbo I had in the CRT I ran it for about 30min no prob temps were fine warm to the touch but I could hold my finger on the motor and ESC. There is a cogging issue I had to push it to get going I here Castle is comming out with a update soon I still need to see if I can reprogram the ESC and see if that helps?

Looks like I got everything I wanted
Runtime at least 30min
weight under 10lbs
and faster then a high end nitro motor

I cant wait to see the look on the nitro guys faces when the get smoked by a brushless CRT. popcorn

[IBJAMMIN]

here is a question for you guys.... i am looking for a basher... i want 4wd, decent ground clearance, supply of hop-up parts and ability to handle 2S lipo with 7700 mamba max... i am going up to alaska for a vacation and wanna some bashing/rock climbing... i was thinking a rustler but it seems traxxas isn't a good choice... was considering an e-max but it is kinda pricey and has that dual motor set-up... any recommendations?

With the Mamba max 7700 motor keep it small and light a Associated rc10t4 or b4 buggy or mid motor rc10gt? You can get Associated parts just about anywhere even Alaska LOL :cool:

[EarlThePearl]

Someone on another thread suggested a HPI Nitro MT 2 18SS to convert.

http://www.rcuniverse.com/magazine/article_display.cfm?article_id=507

Sell the engine, pipe, and tank on Fleabay, make it brushless and add lipo. Where to mount the battery and how to make the motor mount are the biggest questions I would have.

[z-man280]

nevermind

[elmo_cecil]

bowling in ice-hockey rinks?

[elmo_cecil]

doing another rebuild... was going to buy another truck to take with me on a vacation and bash with, but i decided to take this one and spend a little less.. got titanium diffs, AL 1/10 wheels and monotuning wide-a-arm kit, and some 1/10 ralley block wheels.. gonna raise it up and gear it down... i am putting all the current goodies including the Ti CVDs I ordered before i decided on the monotuning kit, on the parts truck and put it on ebay to help pay for this upgrade... i'll post pics and an ebay link of the truck i am going to sell as soon as i take the parts off of this truck

[elmo_cecil]

so on this second rebuild... decided to go all out... (as if i hadn't already)... 3 or 4 a123 li-ion cells (4 ordered) (138A burst rated at 9.9 or 13.2 volt)... mamba max 5700.. above parts (monotuning and ti parts)... and chassis below is cut and waitinf for the mail man to bring in the rest of the parts

[tcolesen]

so on this second rebuild... decided to go all out... (as if i hadn't already)... 3 or 4 a123 li-ion cells (4 ordered) (138A burst rated at 9.9 or 13.2 volt)... mamba max 5700.. above parts (monotuning and ti parts)... and chassis below is cut and waitinf for the mail man to bring in the rest of the parts

Just to let you know, the A123 cells will drop to about 2v at 100amp bursts. Even still, that'd be 800watts on an 1/18 truck :eek:.

[mothman]

Elmo, that is one thick CF chasis. How thick it is?? Looks like a awesome project

[elmo_cecil]

it is 1/8" CF... i cut a single plane one that was same thickness.. both are very strong.. took a hit into a curb at like 50 and only bent crews to the gearboxes.... so upgraded them to 3mm..... i can't wait till it is tunning again... thanks...

[B15]

I dont know if this qualifies as overkill, but heres my rustler.
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h216/bengxe/S5000139.jpg
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h216/bengxe/S5000138.jpg
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h216/bengxe/S5000136.jpg
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h216/bengxe/S5000140.jpg

Its currently powered by a mamba 4600 on 4s lipo. The FLM trans case is flipped around backwards to give it about an inch extra wheelbase, and to move some weight forward. Combined with the jato suspension with backwards mounted front arms, its about 2 inches longer than a stock rustler, with the stock chassis. That is a proline desert rat made for maxx trucks.

[elmo_cecil]

i like it.. but i am going to have to see some body off pics.... i love the mods... it rocks....

[elmo_cecil]

i am still reeling from looking at ibjammins and modmans rides they are for sure overkill, wild and crazy... they rock

[elmo_cecil]

so far this thread has some killer rides... everybody...

[elmo_cecil]

half way done with the super rally rebbuild...


dropped custome CF chassos to accomodate Mamba max 5700

monotuning Wide kit
Al 1/10 wheels with ralley tires
Titanium Diffs with Al gears and carbide B a l l s
Titanium drive shaft (on its way)
titanium 56T spur
Al gear boxes drilled and tapped for 3mm hardware

one its way
4s a123 li-ion developers pack (3.3 volt per cell 138 A burst rated)
li-ion charger

waiting for install
1/10 servo
mamba max 5700 with gearing from 26T to 40T

hoepfully will have it done by end of week... so i take take it on vacation to bash...

yeah the toyz finally came out with AL dif gears

i got titanium CVDs (regular length)
a lipo charger
a set of AL diff gears a mamba25 prgramming cale and some other left overs for sale if anybody wants to message me.

[ElectricThunder]

That thing looks SICK! Lots of ground clearance....very nice.

[MegaMe]

elmo have you used those rally tires before? If so how do they hold up? I've got a tc3 shortened and lifted to convert it into a 1/16th scale offroad and I keep destroying tires...
At the moment I'm using mini quake split-block tires but on grass they last about 4 packs before they become slicks. I'm only using a novak ss5800 on 6 cells at the moment but I've got some a123 3s li-ion packs coming (when they arrive I'll put the car on here; I think it qualifies). With the li-ions I think tire life will only get worse.


edit: oh and I forgot to mention that you guys are all insane.. how often are your cars not broken :) because I can imagine a lot of broken suspension arms and shock towers with so much power (not to mention diffs and spur gears!).

[elmo_cecil]

just got the tires today.. but i'll let you know how they hold up plan on beating them this weekend

[Toothypaste]

edit: oh and I forgot to mention that you guys are all insane.. how often are your cars not broken :) because I can imagine a lot of broken suspension arms and shock towers with so much power (not to mention diffs and spur gears!).

Not an issue...I've got a stampede :D

[ElectricThunder]

edit: oh and I forgot to mention that you guys are all insane.. how often are your cars not broken :) because I can imagine a lot of broken suspension arms and shock towers with so much power (not to mention diffs and spur gears!).
All metal tranny on my Rustler right here! :D HPI CF spur too, so no problems there either.:D

[B15]

I dont get enough traction right now to worry about broken transmission parts.

Here are the body off pics that were requested, with a small addition on the rear:

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h216/bengxe/RC%20cars/S5000200.jpg
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h216/bengxe/RC%20cars/S5000211.jpg
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h216/bengxe/RC%20cars/S5000210.jpg
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h216/bengxe/RC%20cars/S5000212.jpg
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h216/bengxe/RC%20cars/S5000205.jpg
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h216/bengxe/RC%20cars/S5000206.jpg

And heres a small video of it in action:
http://s65.photobucket.com/albums/h216/bengxe/?action=view&current=Rustlerspeedruns1.flv

55.7mph, geared 24/83 w/ mamba 4600 on 4s lipo, with traxxas anaconda 2.8 rear tires. I could probably gear up quite a bit, acceleration is traction limited up to about 35-40, but Im planning on running bigger tires soon.

[elmo_cecil]

wtill waiting for li-ion and some wrap up parts

[elmo_cecil]

b15... was wondering about the wheelie bar ten i see it is also a gps mount.... love it... the car.. the set up.. it is so cool to see a big car do spins like that... rock on

[Mod Man]

My TC4 has not had a drivetrain problem with the exception of one broken diff screw. But, that was not horsepower related, merely a bad screw. :)

I htink most super high horsepower cars rely on wheel spin to save the drive train. I have seen 84MPH in 2 seconds with my TC4 without breaking anything.

I am currently building an RC10L4 with a "Big Block" Neu 1512/2Y on 12S TP Extremes (4HP at 4 pounds). I will post pics of that car as I get it together.

Matt

[elmo_cecil]

4HP at 4lbs.. omg... 12S... wow.. can't wait to see that... i agree with wheel spin alot of stresses are limited... when ya hook up that is when most parts break...

[Mod Man]

I agree. A certain amount of hook is a good thing. But, too much breaks parts.

The L4 will be running a hand made CF wedge body and a hand made CF chassis that seals to the body. It is being built for top speed competition.

Isn't brushless fantastic? Forget nitro, this is a blast? :D

Matt

[elmo_cecil]

dude brushless rock... it seems there is to limit to the amount of $$ one can put into these things and at the same time no limit to the power... i got cells that are supposed to put out 138A... now you could wire in parallel or series and pull pretty much any amount of power you needed... and some of these BL motors are sick... 4hp... iuhno i mean ya can go multi cylinder nitro but this is ust so much easier... i wish ya luck on the toip speed running... i sorta gave up on that.. i mean it is cool but recently it seems ust having a blast basking with asick toy is more fun.. i mean if ya want top speed you end up with a purpose built machine that if it doesn't succeed it breaks... at least mine did.. maybe if this version hold together i'll tune it for speed but right now ust bring on the pain...

[Reinhard]

@Mod-Man:

how does that GY501 work in your car ?
have you ever tried the heading-hold-mode ?

[balang_479]

wow, i just had a look at this Thread and my god do you guys want speed, im sure that round a corner these thing will just tip over,

You should all enter the WFRCCA 2007 this year and see how fast they can really go, their mini rocket ships....

[Mod Man]

Yes, the gyro works great in the car. I do run heading hold mode. It is fine. Honestly, you need a really good gyro for high speed, though. I have a GY611 that works best. But, it is extremely expensive.

Top speed is fun, but it requires alot of dedication. I already have alot of bashing around cars as well. So, the 3 top speed cars I am working on are just extra cars that I want to explore the extreme. ;D

If anyone has any questions, PM me and I will shoot you my number. I am more than willing to give you any info I can on what I have researched.

Matt

[elmo_cecil]

2S li-ion A123 138A burst (910Watt)
mamba max ESC 100A
mamba 5700 1000W

monotuning
Ti diffs and spur
Al everyplace that isn't Ti or CF

off roading thi weekend
Waterproofed ESC and Radio

[Mod Man]

Elmo,

I just realized who you are. You were posting on that "Other" forum. ;)

That thing looks absolutely fantastic.

Matt

[Mod Man]

Oh, I have ahd fantastic luck with my Thunder Power extreme 2070 cells. They are good for 110 amps and lighter than the round li-ion cells. However, I am not sure what the longevity would be compared to your round cells.

Matt

[elmo_cecil]

uhh.. these are 70g not sure about the thunder power... but these things are light... thanks...

[Mod Man]

Ahh, gotcha.

My 2070s are 55 grams per cell. So, 110 grams for a 2S pack.

Matt

[tcolesen]

elmo_cecil, how did you figure that you'll get 910watts out of a 2s A123 pack? At 100amps each cell will be at about 2v. I could see each cell putting out a maximum of about 250watts, for 500watts in a 2s setup. Although that will still be too much for an 1/18 :rolleyes:.

[elmo_cecil]

rated 3.3v and 138A burst

[tcolesen]

That's 3.3v nominal :). When pumping out about 60amps, their voltage drops to about 2.2v.

[Reinhard]

Mod Man:
thx..
i have an GY611 myself, using in my heli in F3C-mode

i thought for myself to try a gyro (GY401, its cheaper) in my Losi XXX-4 buggy...
but wondering, if it would work with all the play you have in a car (specially a offroad-buggy) compared to virtually no play in the tail-steering of a heli
for heading-hold: you controll the speed of turning with that, unimportant which underground you are driving at... does it feel much different to normal steering ?

[Reinhard]

@elmo_cecil and tcolesen:

1000Watt out of 2s ?
don´t think so

here some real-world-data, 4s1p A123 in my Heli,
batts were charged with 8A and had time to rest for 30min
(when used warm, the results would be a little better than shown on the diagram)

so i would say, the 500Watt tcolesen mentioned for 2s are more on the right side

http://www.kraeuterbutter.at/Bilder2/Acrobat10/Eagle%20Tree%20Messwerte/2nd_Flight_4s1p_FePO4_Acrobat10_Volt_Amps_klein.gi f
you can see for the peaks (which are similar to rc-car), that
at 60A the voltage is slightly over 2.5Volt per cell

here the same diagramm for WATT and used mah:
http://www.kraeuterbutter.at/Bilder2/Acrobat10/Eagle%20Tree%20Messwerte/2nd_Flight_4s1p_FePO4_Acrobat10_Watt_Cumul_klein.g if

[elmo_cecil]

ok i am going by the stats on the data sheet mailed with me... what ever.. 500watt rc18t

[elmo_cecil]

either way i have't seen them in another 1/18th scale

[Mod Man]

Reinhard,

There is a different feel with the gyro than without. Actually, a heading hold gyro increases steering sensitivity. But, it also increases steering control. It is almost like supercharging the steering. I have a 64 MPH Tamiya Dark Impact with a GY 501 in it. That car has very sloppy steering, but runs fantastic in HH mode. I would highly recommend running a gyro in an off road car. In fact, I think it works better in an off road car than a road car.

Elmo,

That is the coolest looking 18th scaler I have ever seen. Absolutely beautiful. I love it! ;)

Matt

[pinolelst]

That's 3.3v nominal :). When pumping out about 60amps, their voltage drops to about 2.2v.
Thank you.I've been telling people that since I read Steve Neus tests of these cells in december quiet flight but no one either wants to believe me because they believe the lowball data from most sources (Discharge rate graphs at 20 or 30 amps...whatever....:rolleyes: ) or because they're in some sort of denial.
Someone want to donate a few a123 cells to me for real world destructive testing so I can take video and show how I can make these things get too hot to hold.??????.heck maybe I can get them to catch on fire or blow up by hooking a car battery up to them directly like they do on the intraweb lipo videos :D :wave:

Oh yeah did I mention that volt for volt and mah for mah the a123 cells are 30% heavier than comparable lipo cells ?? :wave:
Good Luck

pinolelst

[Mod Man]

I run an Eagle Tree on board data logger ($69) that gives actual amp draw, voltage, and the related watt reading in real time (10 samples a second). You can download the info via USB to analize the data. Once the actual wattage reading is obtained, you have to take motor efficiency into account.

Here is some specific data from my TC4;

Total wattage drawn 2212 watts. Motor efficiency at that load would be roughly 75%. So, my total motor output on that particular run is 1659 watts. Then the output wattage gets devided by 746 to arrive at the horsepower output. In this particular case, my horsepower peaked at 2.22HP.

I am in love with my Eagle Tree. I HIGHLY recommend it. ;)

Matt

[elmo_cecil]

well pino.. my first reason for getting the batts other than never seing them in a 1/18th vehicle is i am flying with my car this weekend and my lipo cells had a couple of dents.. while i know most TSA people wouldn't know that lipo pose a fire rick and li-ion at least say they don't burst into flames id hate to have to give them my ride... also they say these li-ion are capable of 60C burst... i know i pulled more then the 18C my small 1320mah pack was capable but i figured i would at least givem a try... any way good luck to all

[NitroTXT1]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v481/JayEng/Revo%20Project/REVOSETUP2.jpg
sold on ebay a while back...
specs:
feigao9xl
quark 125b
dual maxx-amps 3s 8000mah packs
g-maxx e-revo conversion(carbon one)
g-maxx single speed conv.

my current not so crazy ride:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v481/JayEng/XTM%20E-XCell/XTMBLX-Cellerator001.jpg

box stock XTM Xcell with LRP 9 turn bl system and runs on stock 3700 and 3900 batts


my current not so wild

[IBJAMMIN]

I run an Eagle Tree on board data logger ($69) that gives actual amp draw, voltage, and the related watt reading in real time (10 samples a second). You can download the info via USB to analize the data. Once the actual wattage reading is obtained, you have to take motor efficiency into account.

Here is some specific data from my TC4;

Total wattage drawn 2212 watts. Motor efficiency at that load would be roughly 75%. So, my total motor output on that particular run is 1659 watts. Then the output wattage gets devided by 746 to arrive at the horsepower output. In this particular case, my horsepower peaked at 2.22HP.

I am in love with my Eagle Tree. I HIGHLY recommend it. ;)

Matt

WOW gota love that for 70 bucks it's well worth it and it will do RPM and temps. :D I saw the larger version awhile back and the size was the only thing I didn't like but this version is what I was looking for. :)

Elmo you are right about flying with Lipo's and if the TSA see's them they will not be allowed on the plane. Put one in your checked bags and chances are you will get pulled in for a bag inspection and probably miss your flight when it goes through the XRAY it looks like a bomb in your baggage if you leave the packs in the chassis. This happend to a friend of mine he got stuck in the airport for about 12 hours before he could get another flight. :(

A123 cells? I have not seen to much info on these cells but from my understanding they are safer and in your case with a 10th scale motor in a 1/18th scale car and the weight and load difference the amp draw should be much lower then running it in a larger car? Anyway the car is looking nice with the wide track kit and I'm curious to see how the aluminum diff gears hold up to the max motor? :driving:

[MegaMe]

Thank you.I've been telling people that since I read Steve Neus tests of these cells in december quiet flight but no one either wants to believe me because they believe the lowball data from most sources (Discharge rate graphs at 20 or 30 amps...whatever....:rolleyes: ) or because they're in some sort of denial.
Someone want to donate a few a123 cells to me for real world destructive testing so I can take video and show how I can make these things get too hot to hold.??????.heck maybe I can get them to catch on fire or blow up by hooking a car battery up to them directly like they do on the intraweb lipo videos :D :wave:

Oh yeah did I mention that volt for volt and mah for mah the a123 cells are 30% heavier than comparable lipo cells ?? :wave:
Good Luck

pinolelst


yeah I'm not that big a fan of these batteries either... both due to the companies practices like why are the cells so expensive in the rc packs but much cheaper in the dewalt? cordless drill packs?
and these cells don't have the energy density of Lipo's, and they are also a funny size and a funny voltage..
they do have some good parts to be sure, like the high charge rates possible and their supposed safety, but they aren't for everybody...

still I'm using them because they happen to fit perfectly (I hope, I haven't received the cells yet) in my 16th scale and running 3s with a novak ss sounds good... going over the specs enough so I feel like I'm pushing it to its limits, and hopefully not enough to blow anything up (or more likely melt something)

[thareelcauz]

heres my e-revo thats running twin HV-maxx 6.5's. I initially ran 4 6 cell 4200's but I'm gonna be switching to 4s 8000's. It also has Ti. arms a bunch of al. and still using the 2 speed. Its unstable in either gear, but its still fun to shift it! :D
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c92/4x4rcfreek/e-revobuild4.jpg
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c92/4x4rcfreek/e-revobuild5.jpg
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c92/4x4rcfreek/Jan18_0002.jpg
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c92/4x4rcfreek/Jan18_0001_0002.jpg

heres my FT 18t with a dynamite 9200 and all the typical upgrades...
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c92/4x4rcfreek/PICT0128.jpg
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c92/4x4rcfreek/PICT0125.jpg
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c92/4x4rcfreek/PICT0126.jpg

and my m18 with a comp-x
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c92/4x4rcfreek/2c_1.jpg

[elmo_cecil]

so bashed with my set-up for a while and a123 seem to be cool with what i am lookin for... here is a question... if a up the gearing to 40/56 with 2.5 gear ratio diffs... my limit would be motor temps... has anyone one tried putting a water jacket from an electric boat on a car ESC and 540 motor?

[Mod Man]

I have looked into it. I made a liquid cooled amplifier for my car audio system 8 years ago. So, I am familiar with small pumps, radiators, etc. The issue is parts size and weight. On a 1/8 scale care, it is doable. On a 1/10 scale care, it would be tight. In your appication I think it would not work. But, that is my opinion. I think it would be cool to do. I just think the parts size is prohibitive for such a small scale car.

Matt

[elmo_cecil]

well i just test ran 35/54 gearing with 2S lion with no noticable motor heat... so next step is modifing motor mount to allow 40/54...

[Mod Man]

Cool! You may be way undergeared if you are not seeing any motor heat at all.

Matt

[elmo_cecil]

that is at 2S li-ion... i am going to up it to 4S either li-ion or li-po for high speed runs... stock gearing is 10/60 so 35/54 is way geared up... 40/54 would be like almost 1/3 motor to wheel gear ratio... (diffs are 2/5 gear ratio) it is definatly going to be aero limited....

[Mod Man]

Gotcha. You should try 3S too. That may be ideal for super fast bashing around without getting insane. :)

Matt

[elmo_cecil]

current set-up:

mamba 5700
mamba max ESC 100A
2S li-ion
Titanium diffs, pins, driveshaft, spur gear
Steel turnbuckles
Stainless and grade 10.8 hex hardware 3MM and 4MM
1/18th CF chassis (dropped to allow mamba max but need to be notched for 40Tpinion)
35/56 gearing
AL monotuning A-arms, Diff gears, wheels, wheelie bar wheels gear boxes hinge brace bearing block shock towers, sub chassis, shocks
hitec hs-645mg servo with custom linkage
moly lubes gear boxes
carbide diff balls

[maxxmustang]

holy *&^#$! video? please?

[IBJAMMIN]

Well I think I found the perfect car for the Mamba Max motors I have I just saw the vids of the new Jammin CRT.5 1/12scale truggy and must say I gotta get one looks like it's about the size of a 10th scale truck. I see there comming out in a week or two but I've heard that one before LOL :)

[elmo_cecil]

video... large http://www.one18th.com/GetGallery13772.htm 54mb..... small http://www.one18th.com/GetGallery13770.htm

[elmo_cecil]

4S liion a123
mamba 5700 with 35/56
ti spur, driveshaft, diffs, carbide diff balls, monotuning CVDs
AL and CF everything alse
hs645 mg 1/10 servo
AL diff gears
1/10 foams
running no shocks (need to mode like 1/10 scale ones to fit and make sway bars if i decide to run.. torque steer was pulling right side wheel up 1/2"

hoping for it be fast... working out a trade i think for an FM radio

[elmo_cecil]

waiting for:

"c" hubs
knuckle bearing carriers
gyro
1/10 touring shocks...

just looked at my pinion and found out i was wrong gearing is only 30/56... gotta stech uppe motor mount slot and notch chassis for 35T pinion... thinking about doing that... on the gearing note i found a "600" can size brushless air motor that is rated for 5000 rpm/volt and capable of 6S lipo... way to expensive for me now and not sure how to mount a pinion to that thing but it is cool to dream... but wouldn't it be cool to run a motor that big... oph yeah cut another flat chassis with integral bumpers

[Quest]

Not quite as modified as some of the others in this thread.

RC 10 T3 with Mamba Max direct to a @s lipo via banana plugs, a 7700 KV motor, GRP wheels, MIP CVDs, stiffer springs and shocks, hardened spur gear

I have a dog bone on one side because the pin spun out and jammed on the A-arm and split the CVD. New one on order.

The GRP's are slightly slippery and I don't flip as much but can still get top speed out of the motor.

Hardened spur gear because I melted the other one.

Sorry a couldn't take a smmaller enough pic to upload :mad:

[elmo_cecil]

one last build

[ElectricThunder]

Elmo, what's all the goopy stuff on your MM ESC? Hot glue or some sort of sealant for waterproofing? (The MM ESC has a sprayed on coating of some water resistant/proofing stuff just so ya know...:D).

[elmo_cecil]

yeah i hot glued it when i took it to alaska to go ice/snow bashing...

[glassdoctor]

today's crazy playtime....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3698iDnkm4

[Mod Man]

Very impressive for an off road car.

Matt

[MegaMe]

well heres my mini tc3 I said I'd post. Using 3s a123 li-ion and a Novak ss... I think its fast enough, although a mamba max 5700 is tempting.

It uses a tc3 chassis which I cut in half and took 80mm out of, which makes it about 1/16th scale (the body I'm using is a Trinity NEXT body which I think is 1/16th). I've been waiting months for this superglued chassis to snap in half so I have an excuse to make one out of carbon fiber. Hopefully the new battery should accomplish that... With any luck I'll melt the esc so I have an excuse to get a Mamba as well.

[elmo_cecil]

awesoem we need to race... lol

[IBJAMMIN]

Well here is my next brushless project a CRT.5 I just ordered it from Nitrohouse for 299 bucks and Tower has them for 420 bucks? what a rip off :(

I'm going to run the Mamba max motors I have in this chassis and basicly set it up like my RC18B for high speed on road fun with a front wing and lowered suspension stay tuned this should be interesting. :)

[IBJAMMIN]

Well here is what I have sofar the CRT.5 with a MM 5700 the Maxamps 3s 4000hv pack should be here soon I'm not going to convert it to onroad only yet this thing is awsome at 12th scale the size is just about in the middle compared with my RC18's and my RC10GT. :D

[elmo_cecil]

that thing is going to be screamin... i just upped my gear ratio to 35/56 only runnin 3S now and got my FM gonna try a speed run soon... also started a brushless lipo micro-T i'll throw some pics when i make some progress...

[Mod Man]

Looks good!

Matt

[ElectricThunder]

You all are crazy... Can I drive?:D :winner:

[elmo_cecil]

oh yeah... mega man... you are my hero.... CF is easy to work with... dremel cut off wheel and expect to ruin some drill bits... how are the diffs holdin up... at one point i was recommended to do the same but i decided to stick the rc18.... keep me posted..

[jocktheglide165]

today's crazy playtime....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3698iDnkm4
that is seriously overpowered :D

[elmo_cecil]

overpowered but still fun.... love that video...

[pauster]

there is no such thing as overpowered ...


... said the diff before it disintegrated

[ta_man]

Well here is my next brushless project a CRT.5 I just ordered it from Nitrohouse for 299 bucks and Tower has them for 420 bucks? what a rip off :(

I'm going to run the Mamba max motors I have in this chassis and basicly set it up like my RC18B for high speed on road fun with a front wing and lowered suspension stay tuned this should be interesting. :)
Tower's current price on the part number 34970 (what Nitro-House sells for $299) is $275. Tower always lists items at the suggested retail price until they get close to getting them in. Plus, if you order now there is a $30 additional discount code that can be appied to this, making it $245 from Tower.

[IBJAMMIN]

Tower's current price on the part number 34970 (what Nitro-House sells for $299) is $275. Tower always lists items at the suggested retail price until they get close to getting them in. Plus, if you order now there is a $30 additional discount code that can be appied to this, making it $245 from Tower.

Yeah they finally lowered the price they were instock at the 420 dollar price for about a week before they lowered the price with the discount they have the best deal now. :)

[elmo_cecil]

started a micro project... brushless micro T with lipo and CF...

got a new body and geared up to 35/56 on the rc18t... got the show wheels on... i have foams too...

[elmo_cecil]

mega me... please update me on that beast... it looks wicked...

[IBJAMMIN]

I had a chance to work on the CRT.5 today and got the motor mount and battery mount made up I'm trying to figure out what to do with the spur gear next. :)

[Mod Man]

Very nice.

I am looking forward to your impression of the car especially with the power system installed. :)

Matt

[elmo_cecil]

ibjammin, love your battery hold down.. that should soak up some heat from the batt and the ESC... that thing should be a rocket...

[elmo_cecil]

really like the motor plate... just taking a closer look.. you are using all four screws... godd qualiy design.. plus to looks like you got slots widfe enough to do ANY gearing... whats the maximim pull you can get from that pack.... you might be able to do some insane speed runs if you gear that thing like 1:1 pinion to spur... the biggest pinion i found was 35T but i think you might be able to bolt this to a 35T pinion to make 55T pinion... that would get you INSANE speeds... http://cgi.ebay.com/TEAM-ASSOCIATED-RC18T-BLUE-TITANIUM-MAIN-GEAR-55T_W0QQitemZ320016775710QQihZ011QQcategoryZ44029Q QrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem anyway great lookin ride... like the idea of modding gas powered cars too they seem tougher from the start..

[chilledoutuk]

Very nice.

I am looking forward to your impression of the car especially with the power system installed. :)

Matt

Whilst his impersonation of the car would be interesting if not funny at least i would rather just see a video of the car.

[IBJAMMIN]

Thanks I was going to lower this car and make a high speed onroad car like my 18B but after getting it I decided I want to play around at the track with it and see how competitive it will be with the gas cars on dirt. Elmo you are right gas cars make the best brushless conversions because they have stronger chassis and drivetrains to start.

The Maxamps 3s 4000mah pack is rated at 80amps constant 120amps sustained and will burst at 200amps so power is no problem.:)

[Mod Man]

What pitch are the gears? I bet I can find you pinions of pretty much any tooth count you want.

Let me know what tooth count you want at what pitch and I will see if I can locate that gear.

Matt

[elmo_cecil]

mod man if you want id like between a 40T and a 50T @ 48P... with a 1/10 scale motor shaft.. i think 3mm w/ flat.. i looked a bit but highest i could find was 35T

[elmo_cecil]

http://www.rcmart.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=293_450_924&products_id=8285 46 and 47.. guess i just didnt look enough

[Mod Man]

https://sdp-si.com/eStore/PartDetail.asp?Opener=Group&PartID=11877&GroupID=590

Here is one as well.

Matt

[Mod Man]

You can get almost anything you need through Stock Drive Products. :)

Matt

[Mod Man]

http://www.rcmart.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=293_450_924&products_id=8285 46 and 47.. guess i just didnt look enough

That is a Tamiya pinion. It is not a true 48 pitch. It may seem so, but I have tried them. Tamiya runs their own proprietary pitch.

Matt

[elmo_cecil]

yeah sorry... any body know a place that might have a alloy rc18T input diff gear... that link is sweet.. i gotta look around

[MegaMe]

mega me... please update me on that beast... it looks wicked...


Not much to say really... I just got back from my easter break at my parents shack and was tearing along dirtbike tracks and gravel roads with it. We also had one road that was paved 2 weeks ago but still has lots of loose rocks on the sides. I did some speed tests along there and I got showered by small rocks a few times when I went strayed too far from the center of the road... need some goggles :) . I don't know how fast it goes... fast enough thats its difficult to keep straight long enough to hit top speed (ballooning tires make it a tad unstable).
my camera is real old so it can't take videos unfortunately.

My biggest issue at the moment is keeping the tires glued on their rims. They are miniquake tires on HPI vintage rims and seem to fit well, but still come unglued. (didn't have that problem on 7.2v nimh) I need to buy a decent radio, and do something with the steering because the tc3 steering doesn't handle the dust and rocks real well but other than that its working really well. The superglued chassis held up even doing some decent sized jumps and crashing once into a tree at about 30mph (only broke a suspension arm :) ). The motor and esc do get insanely hot but it has survived probably the 15 or so packs I've run through it with these batteries.

So it was tonnes of fun over the weekend, and even held up to the driving of my 6, 4, and 2 year old nephews.

[elmo_cecil]

try foams... they seems to be the best solutions for baloonings... they need to make foams with tread....

so you like the A123s?

[IBJAMMIN]

IT'S ALIVE
I got the CRT.5 going and it's very impresive on 3s this thing is awsome I played around with the ESC to get the power to the ground and make it contolable I think I'm going to have to detune it a little to race it.:)

I posted a vid at www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnD6DVYfx2A

[elmo_cecil]

looks fast and durable... (takes those hits real nice..) you do need to get a better camera angle or a camera man and set it up from around where that SUV is parked... it seems you have to slow down as you get closer and it would be awesome to see that thing fly by at full speed.... keep em coming... ya wanna trade?

[ritz59]

Just you guys wait until i get my rc18r, and throw a Mamba 25 competition package in there with a three cell lipo, it going to be screaming fast.

Jordan

[IBJAMMIN]

To be honest the 18R is not all that great of a car you would be better off getting a 18B or 18T and lowering it with some foams for onroad fun. The handling with the narower 18R suspension is not as good as the wider 18T or 18B on road. For some stupid reason Associated cant get parts for the 18R out there I have been waiting 3mo for some dogbones I snapped running a 4s lipo. Just my 2 cents on the 18R

[Thomas P]

4s lipo 14.8 x 8000 = 118400 rpms....it is a beast

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o306/gabbax_74/AErc18bFT/S5032094.jpg

never ever reach topspeed,just flipp on trottle

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o306/gabbax_74/AErc18bFT/S5032059.jpg

http://s123.photobucket.com/albums/o306/gabbax_74/?action=view&current=4sspedruns.flv

http://s123.photobucket.com/albums/o306/gabbax_74/AErc18bFT/?action=view&current=4slipospeedrun2.flv

[elmo_cecil]

dude love the ride... becareful at that motor rpm... i dont think it'll hold together too long... looks good though...

[elmo_cecil]

my rides...

[MegaMe]

I know this is an old thread... but... backflips :D

I bought a mamba when my novak died a very impressive death. It got stuck on full throttle, then it flipped and I'm trying to turn it off with the tires tearing themselves apart and wondering if I'm going to get an eyeful of flying rubber fragments. I think it was worth it :)


http://www.adam.com.au/andyadel/RcMiniMonster.wmv

maybe i should have gone for the mamba max 4600 rather than 5700? :)

some updated pics...

http://www.adam.com.au/andyadel/2007_0522test0017.jpg

http://www.adam.com.au/andyadel/2007_0522test0020.jpg

http://www.adam.com.au/andyadel/2007_0522test0021.jpg

if only the mamba came in blue...

http://www.adam.com.au/andyadel/2007_0522test0026.jpg

and I put some lights on it :)

http://www.adam.com.au/andyadel/2007_0525rclights0011.jpg

http://www.adam.com.au/andyadel/2007_0525rclights0018.jpg

http://www.adam.com.au/andyadel/2007_0525rclights0022.jpg

[elmo_cecil]

mega man your ride is my favorite ride hands down... i love the
batt, esc, motor combo.... keep them coming

[alpinesky1]

gyro steering??? i ordered a hpi d-box is this like the ones u guys are talking about? does it work the same? or is it diffirent?

[elmo_cecil]

not sure what the d box is...

[Mod Man]

D box is a drift box. It is basically a relabeled (and over priced) heli gyro. A gyro is a component originally designed to stabilize heli tails. However, a few eyars back a number of us heli guys started running them for our car steering. It helps the steering control of the car tremendously!

The best gyro for the money would be the JR410 or (if you have a third chanel) a Futaba gy240.

Matt

[elmo_cecil]

think final project might be a kontroniks twist 3700 and a quark 33 ESC running 2S lipo for bashing and 5S for speed...

right now just a mamba 4200 1/18 system trying to get it bashing for little $$

[elmo_cecil]

i polished it up one more time..

[ElectricThunder]

Shiny...:cool:

Maybe I'll do a 12 cell run on my 540 8s powered Rustler. I think I'll wait till i have extra halfshafts though;).

On the backburner right now:

Toying with a 3s lipo/Novak setup in a TT-01...:D We'll see how much money college sucks up first though.:D

[IBJAMMIN]

Here's an update on the CRT.5 conversion :)

Lunsford titanium TB's
Jammin CNC hubs
Neu 1506 1Y 5500kv motor :D
I bolted up some Associated gt truck wheels I haven't tried them yet I dont think the small Hitec servo can handle them without frying? I'm working on getting a Futaba S9550 full size low profile servo then the larger tires should be no problem with over 80ozin of torque.


Hey ELMO have you ever got your MM rc18 up to top speed without flipping it yet? the 5700 MM in my CRT.5 was insanly fast 57mph in a 4lb truck I cant see how your drivetrain can take that kind of torque :eek:

My vote ELMO for the most wild and crazy overkill machine LOL :winner:

[elmo_cecil]

hey ib... you wanna buy mine.... i am getting a new toy...

[elmo_cecil]

btw that AL motor mount looks crazy nice... you gotta machine shop?

[IBJAMMIN]

Nope dont need anymore cars LOL
No machine shop I made the mounts with a drill press and a miter saw.:)

[elmo_cecil]

good toolin

[crazyjr]

Here is my over powered machine, its a traxxas stampede with full FLM treatment and steel tranny gears, powered by a quark 80, a lehner basic XL 1200and 4s lipo.
http://http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x296/crazylarry2/Picture2003.jpghttp://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x296/crazylarry2/Picture2005.jpg[/IMG]"]http://http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x296/crazylarry2/Picture2004.jpg (http://http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x296/crazylarry2/Picture2004.jpg)http://http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x296/crazylarry2/Picture2005.jpg

[elmo_cecil]

totally sick... love it.... all bow to worship the new god.!!!!

[chilledoutuk]

nice crazy i assume you have a guard to protect your motor though at the back from damage.

any videos of this beast in action?

[crazyjr]

nice crazy i assume you have a guard to protect your motor though at the back from damage.

any videos of this beast in action?

No on both accounts, but got a blue eagle motor guard I plan to adapt to it. If i ever get my camera guy on a free day from church i will get a vid

[NORTEX-T1FK]

I wouldnt say its crazy but its pretty fast.
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t72/rlopez75/IMGP0543.jpg

[elmo_cecil]

what motor is that.. it looks interesting

[NORTEX-T1FK]

E-Flite 370, 5400 KV. It works awsome!http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Si7IfcEF9ag

[elmo_cecil]

decided to enter the larger electric crowd....

E Monster GT...

KB 1700 kv brushless

MM ESC wanna go to phoenix 85 or 110

4S A123 wanna go to 6S or 8S