At Hobby shop today...

[seanmanibog]

Me and a guy named Devon were running his new 3.3 Nitro 4tec that he was picking up in the parking lot[other stores in shopping center have gotten used to it.] . Now this is a very busy parking lot, it has a Walmart, a Roundtable Pizza, and a car wash, along with many other stores. There is kinda a blind corner than you cant see around when standing out front of the hobbyshop, thus where we were standing. All the sudden this old lady comes flying around the corner.. and.. well... you guessed it. CRUNCH. yep. Ran right over his 4tec. She was driving a big GMC suburban. he walks over, kneels, and automatically throws up. So here he is sitting there looking at his crunched 4tec, with a pile of bodily fluids next to it, kneeling in the parking lot. When he finally gets up, we walk inside the busy hobby shop, and a dead silence falls upon it as everyone looks over. Upon further inspection [taking the body off] this is what we found. His engine completely broken in half with the con. rod sticking out the bottom. His carb shattered all over, and his crankshaft bent at a 45 degree angle. throttle servo smashed into bite-size pieces,his air filter shredded up, chassis bent along with all other plats decks. i felt pretty bad for him. Thats why i always run mine BEHIND the store lol.

[josh222]

Its hard to hear but it was his own fualt

[Smib]

yeah, that's the worst part. Unless that lady happened to be super nice and had lots of money to spare, he's totally out of luck. Sucks to hear.














































I'm sad now.

































:p

[Joe Brinduse]

we need pics

[yellowbeejato]

Yeah, I'd probably hurl too.

[XXWoodmanXX]

LOL. Sorry, but that's what ya get when ya run where there's a crowd of vehicles a couple thousand lbs heavier than yours.

[blktransam]

yup he brought it all on to himself is all I have to say, sux but true

[st_dragn_wagen]

i like stores involving totally destroyed traxxas :D

[FESTER2004]

that sux,sorry to hear it

[kikcaffine]

Did the lady stop or say anything?

[B4 Stealth]

it sux, but ur fault, take it to a ct or track nxt time

[seanmanibog]

If the engine and stuff is still there when I go in tomorrow ill take pics, I doubt it because it probably went home with him. And no, all she did was roll down her window and say "Im so sorry" rolled it back up and left.

[Eli the rc guy]

I think the old lady should have at least apologized for running over a 400 dollar toy. Sorta depends to on who's fault it was. If he ran under the wheel or she ran into the 4tec. Anyways you shouldn't be running in the parking lot too when it is busy with car's o.o. If I go to the parking lot it is always after there is only a couple of cars parked not if its busy.....

[Demon-TC3]

If the engine and stuff is still there when I go in tomorrow ill take pics, I doubt it because it probably went home with him. And no, all she did was roll down her window and say "Im so sorry" rolled it back up and left.

What a b!tch! i kno he shudnt have been driving there but thats just...wrong!

[Metla]

What did she do wrong?drive her car in a car park?, Hell, The guy should have apologized for putting his RC under her wheel, Lets hope she has enough sense to inspect the tire for damage.,lest it fail and cause her harm.

[vaderbxman]

Everything in the world slowed down for me when my first evader went under a truck. I swear i could feel the impact in my bones and it was an eternity before it hit the ground again. (well, for the second time)

Since then, I only run my car at the track and only run it at home in the backyard when I needed to diagnose a problem or test it.

[Demon-TC3]

What did she do wrong?drive her car in a car park?, Hell, The guy should have apologized for putting his RC under her wheel, Lets hope she has enough sense to inspect the tire for damage.,lest it fail and cause her harm.


FFS are you really that close minded?
IF you ran over some poor kids new car you should have the common descency to appologise REGARDLESS of whos fault it was, at the end of the day that kid is $400 down...not that it was the womans direct fault as the kid shudnt have been driving there, But an appology is considered common curtesy!

[XXWoodmanXX]

But an appology is considered common curtesy!

Apparently, not in New Zealand. They must be part-French. :wave: :D

[Demon-TC3]

Think of it this way, if you where in his place you would expect an appology, doesnt matter that she was not in the wrong but the fact is she ran the thing over and hence its no longer existant! AS I SAID, he shouldnt be driving it near a car park entrance in the first place BUT that doesnt mean people can be rude!

[pleaseletmeon34]

all she did was roll down her window and say "Im so sorry" rolled it back up and left.


She did.

[Stuart B]

I would be gutted if that happened to me or a friend....unless she was speeding I don't see why she should apologise.

Stu

[Smib]

The worst part is that if there was tire damage, she could have made him pay for it and not be wrong, just mean.

[Demon-TC3]

yea guess u guys are right... Still sorry about the car man...

[Smib]

Too much bad juju in the general section today. Someone start a happy thread.

[kikcaffine]

There are alot of people that seem to try to make them selves out as saints. God forbid someone runs one of my cars over, because my car will probably end up through their back window. As bad as it is to say I can see that happening, especially if they aim for it. Now if they immediately say they will pay for it or repair it, its all good. Otherwise world war 3.

[Stuart B]

There are alot of people that seem to try to make them selves out as saints. God forbid someone runs one of my cars over, because my car will probably end up through their back window. As bad as it is to say I can see that happening, especially if they aim for it. Now if they immediately say they will pay for it or repair it, its all good. Otherwise world war 3.

There is a big difference between aiming at it on purpose and driving around a blind bend in a busy car park. If you sthrow a strop like you say in the event it was an accident then you are a prize pillock. Would you complain if someone hit your rc car while you drove it on the freeway? If you don't want yyour car accidentlly run over by a full size one...don't play where full size ones have every right to be driving!

Stu

[ElectricThunder]

Moral of the story: RCs are not for busy areas with REAL cars. (This is why I like offroad...just take it to a baseball diamond and I don't have to worry about a huge suburban crunching anything....just gotta make sure no one's using the field first... :o )

Sucks...but that's what happens when you run in the street; there's always a possibility of something like that happening. :eek:

[seanmanibog]

Actually, she was speeding, probably doing 20mph in the parking lot, while everyone else was doing 5. I remember saying that she was speeding, it was some 50 year old lady in her big truck with a cig. sticking out of her mouth, didnt seem like it was important to her I guess.

[Metla]

For what its worth I have had a couple cars run over in my youth, Both times I apologized to the person who ran em over, Because, get this even 20 years ago I had the smarts to realize if I use my RC in a place designed for cars then I am in the wrong if it gets run over. End of story.

If you people have the capacity, Imagine the scenario flipped on its head, Imagine she used her car on an area designed for RC's, Like the local track for example.

Though I'm guessing from prior contributions in this thread rather then drawing any useful conclusions to such an exorcise we will instead have another round-house of knee-jerk reactions.

anyway, while I'm here, Can I ask how many of those people outraged that the women ran over the car have a drivers license and drive regularly(daily)?

[kikcaffine]

Its called paying attention. What if it had been a kid or a little puppy and not an rc car?

[dirtybirdjr]

Cause we all know to let are small kids and puppys run in BUSY parking lots with several real size CARS will be.

I have never had a car run over because I know people don't pay attention when they drive. Empty parking lots and parks work for me, but I still perfer the track play.

[Metla]

Its called paying attention. What if it had been a kid or a little puppy and not an rc car?

And you do of course realize in the event a dog gets in the way of a moving car the best and safest course of action is to hit the dog rather then take evasive action?

Same goes for an RC in the way, Run it over rather then cause a bigger issue, What if she hit her brakes and a car behind her hit her?, What do ya reckon?, 2 or 3 grand damage? or if she swerved and hit a parked car which just happened to have a young mum half out of the rear door strapping her child in? a 3 tonne impact? Nice work. All because some child ran a toy in a busy car park

Obviously if its a pedestrian you would take evasive action, But thats another story, and in no way comparable to a RC car.

[zakerid]

she prob. didn't realize how expensive his car was... I wonder if car insurance would cover the damage? Especially if there was a low deductible.

[JeffEmbracedDC]

Seriously.. anyone should know to NOT drive a car in a public parking lot ESPECIALLY if it's busy. I drive my car at the side of walmart and always have someone with me watching out where I'm not looking and letting me if any cars are getting anywhere near us. It takes responsibility. If you're going to drive it in a place like that you shouldn't have an expensive car as you're obviously responsible enough. There of course are "accidents".. but this whole thing could have easily been avoided had common sense been brought in to the situation. I'm sure he learned for next time, though. I had a similar thing happen to me when I was about 12 with my RC10T.. Except the road was roped off for a festival.. I still don't know why a car was driving in there... but anyway.. I literally had it up and running within about 3 minutes. That RC10T was a freakin tank!

-J

[JDT]

What did she do wrong?drive her car in a car park?, Hell, The guy should have apologized for putting his RC under her wheel, Lets hope she has enough sense to inspect the tire for damage.,lest it fail and cause her harm.

she failed to maintain a proper lookout, it could have been someones bratty four year old running to the store and she would be looking at 25 years for manslaugter, don't forget americans are rude and often times we are so obsessed with our time we tend to do retarded things like drive across parking lots at 40mph across lanes of traffic and around blind corners with little regard, sucks to be the car owner but I would have at least mentally berated the woman with the four year story to make her realize THANK GOD it was only a little toy.

[Ball Racing]

A bratty 4 year old can't run towards a real car at 65mph like a 4 tec.
And a 4 year old is larger than a 4 inch tall rc car...

[JDT]

I'm not saying it was all her fault, I would have made her realize the stupidity of her actions driving like a nut and speeding around corners in parking lots, unless the story is a lie and she was only going five mph and he ran the car under hers then yes she was actually was doing something wrong and she should be told so.

[pleaseletmeon34]

I wonder if car insurance would cover the damage? Especially if there was a low deductible.


But how many of us have insurance on our rc cars. :rolleyes:

[SpeeD-Jr]

Apparently, not in New Zealand. They must be part-French. :wave: :D


humm humm... are you saying French are not courtesy?
don't be racist.

[suckfish]

well that sure stinks about the car.. I had my Brand new Tmaxx run down my driveway into busy main st with me following trying to stop it.. Well I was lucky the little old lady saw me running into the middle of the street and stop.. I grabbed my truck .I Apolized to the lady , saying thank you for stopping.. And to my avail this as her response.. "You know you shouldnt be playing with cars in the middle of the Street" my response was again thank you so much for stopping.. mind you I was 40 years old at the time.. I now always just tune my cars at the track or in the back yard with no more high speed runs down the driveway..

[zakerid]

But how many of us have insurance on our rc cars. :rolleyes:
??? I was thinking about the ladies ins.

[Y2KGTP]

Now this is a very busy parking lot, it has a Walmart, a Roundtable Pizza, and a car wash, along with many other stores. There is kinda a blind corner than you cant see around when standing out front of the hobbyshop, thus where we were standing.

Now why would anyone think this is a good place to drive a (RC) car? Just because there is a hobby shop in the same shopping area ?

This is 110% the RC drivers fault.

[Ghostface Buggy]

There's a LHS in my town that specializes in nitro cars and the owner makes most of his money selling RTR's with perfectly broken in engines. The owner breaks in the engines right in front of his store even though it's a very busy parking lot and he has bad eyesight to boot. Last time I went to his shop, I literally had to avoid running over one of his cars just to get a parking space. I figure it's only a matter of time until he gets one crunched by a 1:1 car. He should know better.

[Ball Racing]

And if a person in a real car is coming around a corner or a flat lot, how is it that a 10-20 mph real car hits the R?C and is scolded as being careless, and not seeing or paying attention?

Does not the guy or gal with the R/C car not share the same responsibility to see cars coming, and pay attention to whats going on, I mean what if you are ripping in the parking lot, and you hit a person with a walker or not a old lady off her feet?

And home come we have these awesome handling, quick , fast cars, and we can't dodge a SUV that is only going 5-20mph?

Whats harder to see
a one foot long car
or a 20 foot long car?

It's like when Austin Powers was chasing that guy with the steam roller, and he wouldn't get out of the way,, and kept screaming, and had all the time in the world to move but didn't....

If you don't see them, don't expect for them to see you...

If a train attacks you, next time just move off the tracks..

[Y2KGTP]

Something about NOT driving a RC car in a busy parking lot is mentioned in most of the owners manuals, I think :D

Something to do with safety, etc.....

[Y2KGTP]

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/7560/eeezz0.jpg

http://www.traxxas.com/products/nitro/n4tec/blueprints/Nitro4Tec-Owners-Manual.pdf

[seanmanibog]

I think that we can pretty much conclude here that it is 110% both of their faults.

The woman shouldnt have been doing 20 in a parking lot anyway, she could have very easily hit someone walking to the car or had to make a sudden stop and rear end someone.

Brandon shouldnt have been driving his 4Tec in the parking lot, its almost to fast to see from a drivers point of veiw, and also was shooting out from behind cars and objects, so it wasn't smart on his end either.

Here is the moral of this story...

PARKING LOTS ARE BAD!

[Neon_Dave]

And you do of course realize in the event a dog gets in the way of a moving car the best and safest course of action is to hit the dog rather then take evasive action?

Same goes for an RC in the way, Run it over rather then cause a bigger issue, What if she hit her brakes and a car behind her hit her?, What do ya reckon?, 2 or 3 grand damage? or if she swerved and hit a parked car which just happened to have a young mum half out of the rear door strapping her child in? a 3 tonne impact? Nice work. All because some child ran a toy in a busy car park

Obviously if its a pedestrian you would take evasive action, But thats another story, and in no way comparable to a RC car.

That is a very good point. Lots more problems can come up if the full size car goes all over the place trying to avoid the RC.

Well, for what it's worth, I think it's obvious both had their mistakes and both can be to blame, to some degree. We just have to learn from it.


In any case, we drive RC's at the hobby shop all the time, but that's why we use the BACK parking lot :p

[Ball Racing]

The woman shouldnt have been doing 20 in a parking lot anyway, she could have very easily hit someone walking to the car or had to make a sudden stop and rear end someone.

Did you radar her at 20mph?

Remeber this when you go to the hobby store next time, and you are there to pick up one of the last of the New shipment of "whatever" that has been on backorder for a month and a half, and the owner calls you up, and says it's in stock now, but he doesn't know for how long.

You and all you other buddies will be knocking each other down to get there...(and a 5mph speed and walking calmly into the door won't be witnessed)
and my real truck can't go 5mph without going in and out on the clutch a million times,,, and the speedo starts at 15mph....
We don't always notice the things we do- but we see it in others when they do it, and causes us problems....

[ElectricThunder]

Actually, she was speeding, probably doing 20mph in the parking lot, while everyone else was doing 5. I remember saying that she was speeding, it was some 50 year old lady in her big truck with a cig. sticking out of her mouth, didnt seem like it was important to her I guess.
Still doesn't matter as much as I hate to say it. She may have been in the wrong for speeding in general ('cause speeding is breaking the law), but not for running over the R.C.

Another consideration- My car tends to roll along at 20mph without touching the gas for a few minutes before the engine warms up to operating temperatures...:p:D

It doesn't matter though. What's done is done. :huh:

[Y2KGTP]

Can we have photos of the car now? :wave:

[glassdoctor]

There are alot of people that seem to try to make them selves out as saints. God forbid someone runs one of my cars over, because my car will probably end up through their back window. As bad as it is to say I can see that happening, especially if they aim for it. Now if they immediately say they will pay for it or repair it, its all good. Otherwise world war 3.

You little moron punk... try that if I run your car over and you will be paying out the nose to fix whatever damage your bada.s.s WWIII vengence creates. If you are lucky it would just be picking your sorry butt up off the ground and going home to mamma.

Brats like you all learn your lesson eventually and are forced to grow up. Let's hope for your sake you learn it someday without paying too big of a price.

Some end up learning the hard way... behind bars wondering what they did wrong.

I'm sure there will be some witty response here... but I don't plan to hang around to read it so save the efforts. I'm just trying to help out some young misguided people. Later guys. :wave:

[seanmanibog]

Sorry about the pics guys, I live in Reno/sparks nevada and if youve watched the news we are getting hit pretty hard with snow right now, so I decided against going to the hobby shop today. And you know what, no i didnt "radar her at 20" but its obvious when she is doing atleast double the speed than all the other cars. Saying, "Oh officer, its not my fault I was doing 20mph and hit that kid, my car just has to go in and out of the clutch too much, so I figured its just ok to get to speeds where I dont need to do that." isnt going to fly at all. She had no reason at all to be doing those speeds. Period.

And granted, he shouldnt have been driving in the main parking lot, I only drive in the back parking lot of the store also.

[kikcaffine]

You little moron punk... try that if I run your car over and you will be paying out the nose to fix whatever damage your bada.s.s WWIII vengence creates. If you are lucky it would just be picking your sorry butt up off the ground and going home to mamma.

Brats like you all learn your lesson eventually and are forced to grow up. Let's hope for your sake you learn it someday without paying too big of a price.

Some end up learning the hard way... behind bars wondering what they did wrong.

I'm sure there will be some witty response here... but I don't plan to hang around to read it so save the efforts. I'm just trying to help out some young misguided people. Later guys.

Ya know what, bring it. Im in Georgia lets see how big your mouth is in person. Put up your address and well figure this out person to person, other wise shut your mouth.

[JeffEmbracedDC]

Ya know what, bring it. Im in Georgia lets see how big your mouth is in person. Put up your address and well figure this out person to person, other wise shut your mouth.

I don't think it's a matter of "bringing" anything. The fact is if you purposefully damage someones property you may likely be held responsible for your actions as you should be as they are juvenile. By some age the general American will know how to control themselves. Unfortunately if you're stupid enough to drive your radio controlled car around other cars you are likely not to that point and losing control of yourself would not be completely unexpected.

Anyway, no one has to bring anything. If anything is "brought" it would be by the governing law in a courtroom which would say you're a loser and you pay for the damages that your actions have caused.

-J

[kikcaffine]

Just out of curiosity how old are you guys that are trying to say im juvenile? Btw im 22 so I can be.

[pleaseletmeon34]

Yea, I just don't get it...what gives these cars the right to drive on parking lots??? I take my girls 4 year old son and my dog to the local parking lots to play ball and frizzbie. The people look at us like we are nuts??? At Christmas time we were playing in the mall parking lot, and there was cars everywhere...do you believe it! We want to play ball.

Stupid cars :rolleyes:

[JeffEmbracedDC]

I don't think anyone is saying that YOU as a person are juvenile. I think what is in discussion is that certain decisions are juvenile. Luckily you haven't been in the position where you had to make those choices.

If you're 22 you're an adult.

-Jeff

[kikcaffine]

http://www.importatlanta.com/upload/files/37/funny_cat_pictures_208.jpg

[JeffEmbracedDC]

http://embraced-dc.com/temp/RCCarAction/U5502.jpg

[rocknbil]

From the moment you put the glow start to the plug, you are responsible for the actions of that vehicle. Case closed. This times ten if you're operating in an area not dedicated to RC operation, this includes parking lots, public parks, streets, even BMX tracks. You are the guest on these properties, not the other way around.

There is no reason to expect someone driving through a parking lot to be on the lookout for radio controlled vehicles any more than someone should be on the lookout for an RC airplane at a park.

Instead of demanding an apology for which you don't deserve, you should be thankful she didn't swerve to avoid your RC and hit a parked car. Had that happened, the RC owner and his parents would be have a whole new set of problems to worry about.

It doesn't matter how fast you "think" the car was going, you can argue this all month long (and probably will) but all of you have to be aware your RC carries with it a responsibility. Ignore that responsibility and "do whateeeever you want" and this is the price to be paid.

[Ball Racing]

It's sad that the nitro 4 tec couldn't out run a gas guzzling SUV...

If she didn't hit the car, I bet you wouldn't have thought she was speeding...
And what is the posted speed limit in that parking lot?
Is there one?
Does it count that she was traveling faster than the other 4 cars you saw?
Whats the fastest you remeber yourself going in that parking lot at anytime?

[LD3Furious]

BTW, most parking lots I know of, while they may have "speed limit signs" posted, are generally considered private property and local police have no jurisdiction to enforce traffic issues.I agree 100% with Rocknbil. It is sad that you're friend learned a bad lesson the hard way. It's a shame that the driver did not choose to be polite and offer to defray at least some of the cost. However, she had the right to simply drive away.

[Y2KGTP]

I wonder if there were any signs like this posted:

http://a248.e.akamai.net/f/248/5462/2h/street.safeshopper.com/images/by12i2mz.gif

http://a248.e.akamai.net/f/248/5462/2h/street.safeshopper.com/images/by11o9yq.gif

[MaximumF350]

I don't think anyone is saying that YOU as a person are juvenile. I think what is in discussion is that certain decisions are juvenile. Luckily you haven't been in the position where you had to make those choices.

If you're 22 you're an adult.

-Jeff
22 AND works at Hobby Town. Is it such a wonder why LHS employees get such a bad wrap?

The employee should be advising buyers of the same thing Traxxas does...no running in crowded areas.

[JDT]

the rules of the road are well established by nearly 100 years of case law, anyone operating a motor vehicle has a duty to maintain a proper lookout as well as maintain a speed which is reasonable. A good litigator would run with this case on these three basis
1. A hobby shop is on scene therefore a reasonable and prudent person would be the lookout for hobby related activites
2. A prior history of hobby related usage exists at this facility thus requiring an extra degree of care
3. excessive speed diminished the last clear chance to avoid the accident
I have handled thousands of insurance claims, I am licensed in multiple lines of insurance in multiple states so trust me I have seen many claims more outrageous than this.
The owner of the SUV did not have the right to drive away without the consent of the rc owner, police issue tickets all the time for fleeing the scene of an accident that happened on private property, the amount of damages has no bearing either.

[Y2KGTP]

the rules of the road are well established by nearly 100 years of case law, anyone operating a motor vehicle has a duty to maintain a proper lookout as well as maintain a speed which is reasonable. A good litigator would run with this case on these three basis
1. A hobby shop is on scene therefore a reasonable and prudent person would be the lookout for hobby related activites
2. A prior history of hobby related usage exists at this facility thus requiring an extra degree of care
3. excessive speed diminished the last clear chance to avoid the accident
I have handled thousands of insurance claims, I am licensed in multiple lines of insurance in multiple states so trust me I have seen many claims more outrageous than this.
The owner of the SUV did not have the right to drive away without the consent of the rc owner, police issue tickets all the time for fleeing the scene of an accident that happened on private property, the amount of damages has no bearing either.


So are you stating here it is the motorists responsibility or the RC operator's to exercise extra caution due to the fact there is hobby related usage in the parking lot?

[LD3Furious]

It's both...as for the RC driver...for obvious reasons...as for the 1:1 driver...what if that was a little child? Or maybe some ladies child stroller "got away" from her...ehhh, ok Ill admit...these are extreme...but still. All that being said...it sounds to me as if JDT is simply saying he can make/win a case in court for the RC driver, not necessarily layuing blame on either party.

[JDT]

the established rules of the road do not apply to radio control cars, the SUV driver is the one in control of a couple thousand pound killing machine, its her duty to maintain the lookout. I'm not saying this is money in the bank, it would be easy to prove a history of rc usage with depositions and witness testimony, it would also be easy to prove that there is a hobby shop at this location with pictures, letterhead, business card, witnesses etc, what would be hard to prove would be the excessive speed but from the authors story there were witnesses present which would only help him in court, the SUV drivers best defense would be to say she has never been to this location before and was unaware a hobby shop was on site and she has never heard of hobby related activities at this facility, this of course makes her look even more stupid for using excessive speed in a parking lot she alledges she had never been in before which most people won't beleive as who has never been to walmart in there hometown, if she had witnesses to claim she was only going the posted limit and the rc driver hit her and she had moved to town the day before then it would boil down to who has the better story/lawyer.

[rocknbil]

1. A hobby shop is on scene therefore a reasonable and prudent person would be the lookout for hobby related activites

This is the most rediculous assumption I have ever heard.

2. A prior history of hobby related usage exists at this facility thus requiring an extra degree of care

R. X 10. "Facility?" This is not a school zone. It's a parking lot. As far as I can tell, there is no formal track there, so there is no "facility." It's a retail store, among the other retail stores in the area.

I want to know what insurance company you work for. Generally insurance companies have the most retentive investigators possible, this wouldn't get past the front desk, and if *real* property were damaged, you can bet your azz they would be going after the RC driver, NOT the driver of the SUV. Parking lots are for transportation vehicles. Other unauthorized use is at your own risk.

Any insurance company that would hire an agent willing to field statements you've posted here is the company for me. I'll be able to drive blindfolded and drunk and my RC will be safe.

[NIdaho Mudder]

Yea I have to watch out for the run away baby buggies doing 40 across walmarts parking lot all the time. I drive for a living and have had more training then i would guess 99% of the members of this forum.
1 something THAT small isn't even in the general scanning range of a average driver. When considering the scale of a 4tech what is it 6 inches high? a Pomeranian would be easier to see.

2nd When you show me the license tabs,registration and proof of Insurance on the RC car that was hit we can discuss this further.

3rd For who ever thinks they would start world WWIII needs to understand that alot of drivers carry things like tire irons, baseball bats and 44 magnums all of which will do damage in what would appear to be self defense after you Throw something at them.

The woman did say she was sorry, as for offering to pay for his stupidity naw. I also remember reading when considering a RC Airplane that company's sell Insurance for the damage you can cause with them. I would say if ya drive in a busy parking lot you really should look into something like it.

[z-man280]

Wow!


What came from a simple story of a guy talking about the ill-fated adventures of his friend, has now developed into who is at fault, and a 22 yr old expresseing his manhood and calling out people to fight........about something that has nothing to do with him.



CHECK YOUR EGO AT THE DOOR!!!!!



BOTH are at fault,....as a driver, you are responsible for knowing your surroundings, as the rc owner, he knew the chances of driving around public vehicle traffic.

the car is broke, the guy is bummed, the lady is sorry. END OF STORY!

Taking this to personal levels and challenging people to fights or instigating that is nothing more than absolute lunacy.

Stop and think before you type, leave your little ego's at the door, and if you dont like what you read, then STOP READING!!!!!!!




Geez people, grow the hell up,...all the guy wanted to do was share a story with ya, and you have all blown it into this. Look back at this in a few weeks, those who can look past their ego will see they were in the wrong.



( oh yeah, had the same thing happen to me with a Stampede years back. I knew better than to be jumping into the road too. Guy who hit it was going too fast. He stopped, said he was sorry, I bought parts. END)

bummer about the 4-tec

[Y2KGTP]

I like Pizza.

[JDT]

Nidaho As a commercial driver you should definetely understand to maintain a lookout, how many times have you been in an accident, I would guess not nearly as many as you should have for the miles you have driven(statistics say in america one wreck for every 112,000 miles average as of 2001) and this is because you maintained a proper lookout and took the last clear chance to avoid the accident every time someone pulled into your lane only to flip on a blinker to turn causing you to stop hard or even swerve (bad idea) Any one who rides a motorcycle on the street should understand also, you need to maintain a proper lookout as a four inch high two pound dirt clod can kill or mangle you, a 4 tec would just be a little cooler way to die I guess. As far as the license, registration and proof of insurance thats just silly, if you hit a car in a parking lot or on the street, they do not need any of these to collect damages from your insurance company, they may get some fines but no the claim will not be denied because they are to ignorant or poor to get license and insurance, hell being an unlicensed illegal alien is not even grounds for denying a claim. I agree 100% with #3, in this day and age you better watch even extending the universal #1 sign lest some fool blow your head off.

rocknbill, you don't have any experience with legal issues do you?, I'm not saying its 100% right, I just know the extent some lawyers will go to, I had a $10,000 claim filed on a rubber ball that was run over near a daycare scaring the kids half to death and making two grown women cry, these arguments mirror what were used on me in a court of law, the jury awarded $3 actual damages and $75000 as punitive damages as it could have easily been the six year old rather than the ball he was playing with, later reduced to $1000 punitive in appeals court and the $3 actual damages stood on merit as they could prove the cost of the ball. I'm not an insurance agent, I am an adjuster, I have seen all aspects of human society including lawyers who will try anything, one fool took the gas line off his furnace and tried to "check" it with his zippo, our insured supplied the propane so a $37 million dollar suit is pending as the lawyer claims we did not do enough to educate the moron about the explosive potential of LP gas even though there was a 2 foot square NO FLAME sticker put on his tank just three months before he died when it was last painted.

[NIdaho Mudder]

I agree JDT ya wonder about the idiots that file suit over these stupid things. And as for accidents i have NONE. I would also guess i am close to the 2 million mile mark. I do how ever have 1 speeding ticket in whats going to be 26 years of driving next week *hangs his head in shame*

[rocknbil]

rocknbill, you don't have any experience with legal issues do you?

Yes, I DO, I have had *many* real-life experiences with not only insurance claims but our judicial system, lawyers, and the other sharks that run the show. Every one of those experiences indicates that any insurance company will rise to the occasion to avoid paying out a dime. Admit it man, you're grasping at straws here. :D

There wouldn't be enough money in this for any working lawyer to do anything but send the litgating party an invoice for consultation. Like I said, this wouldn't even get past the front desk, and even if the parents of the RC driver did have all the money in the world to throw at an issue over a $500 RC vehicle, they would lose. They would lose and wind up paying laywers fees for bringing such a rediculous claim to the bench.

[Y2KGTP]

Anyone get the plate # of the vehicle? I guess just file a property damage claim with the police for the cost of the vehicle.

[jacsac]

I got thrown off by the Wal-mart in the parking lot (it is Smith's) but now that you said Reno I realized I saw half of the motor laying at HC&M hobbies. I have watched guys drive R/C's in that parking lot and I tell you it was only a matter of time before something went crunch. That parking lot is so small compared to all the shops in that place. There is a Hollywood video on the corner and a round table on the other. That right there guarantees there is going to be people running in and out all day.

[MaximumF350]

Jacsac,

Word up on that Daddy.

I missed the whole Reno comment. It's fitting that it happened at HCM. The driving in the parking lot was/is an accident waiting to happen.

See you at HPH on Sat night.

[seanmanibog]

Oh sweet you guys go to HC&M?? So you can back me up... that poor kid... hope to see you guys in there!

[Wardy24]

damn man, as a 4tec owner, that is a rough one meng.....sorry to hear

[Ball Racing]

I can't beleive still that the 4-tec couldn't out run it....
And what is he field of vision in the suv that it is the fault of the driver that she didn't see a foot long 4 inch tall car?

Now if you say,
My friends 4 tec quit running, and we were running over to pick it up, and this person in a suv saw the car, because it was just sitting there, and still hit it because she was going so fast.


THATS a different argument....

And what if it was not visible to her, and she just felt the crunch?
What if the nitro could have exploded, and caught her car on fire?

If you didn't see her coming, she probably didn't see you....

[XXWoodmanXX]

Not giving the said woman in the SUV an excuse, but.... here we have a new Super Wal-Mart just opened up about 6 mo. ago. Since then, we've had 3 large utility vehicles plow into the very same parking lot lightpost. Just seems to be in the wrong place, based upon the turn radius of the larger vehicles, I guess? I dunno. I mean,...it's not like it's sonet tubed concrete base isn't BRIGHT FRIGGIN YELLOW or anything! lol And yet, they still manage to plow into it.

So, imagine a little 4-tec zipping around the parking lot? ;)

[Eli the rc guy]

I think it all boils down to, Do NOT run you RC Car in a BUSY parking Lot. This accident should not be seen as pity or blame, but a lesson in your Rc Life. I hope I don't hear any more stories about peoples Rc being ran over... 2 times in a month is already too much...

[MaximumF350]

I go to HCM all the time, but I don't blame the woman in the car. In my opinion she completed her obligation with her apology.

I feel bad for the kid. Yes, it would have been nice if she offered some money to help fix it, but I don't feel she was in the wrong even if she was going 5mph over the speed limit in the parking lot. Hopefully, there's a lesson learned here.

BTW...I was there today and Harold was running his car in the parking lot. I thought, "Accident #2 waiting to happen."

Ps..Go check out www.renoradiocontrol.com. There's a local forum on there to hook you up with stuff going on in Reno.

[jacsac]

Atleast it was a 4tec and not something more expensive than that. They run a 5b out there all the time. Renoradiocontrol.com is the spot for northern NV.

[tec_41]

it sux, but ur fault, take it to a ct or track nxt time

You are a lazy uneducated bastard.

Ya know what, bring it. Im in Georgia lets see how big your mouth is in person. Put up your address and well figure this out person to person, other wise shut your mouth.

Wooo, badass...I love internet wussies!

You little moron punk... try that if I run your car over and you will be paying out the nose to fix whatever damage your bada.s.s WWIII vengence creates. If you are lucky it would just be picking your sorry butt up off the ground and going home to mamma.

I wouldn't mess with you :p

I can't beleive still that the 4-tec couldn't out run it....

When you drive a nitro 4-tec you don't always go 65mph do ya...It came around a corner when he was probably turning around :wave:

Now that it's out of my system...:D Wow, I don't know how I would react to that. It's one of those things where you expect the lady to come out and apologize, then pay for it...but when you look back on it a few days later you realize that you were really the one at fault :(

[ElectricThunder]

This thread is funny.:D

(tec- I nominate your post for "best synopsis EVAR"!:D)

[Ball Racing]

No it's sad really, and not because a car was crushed............

[Eli the rc guy]

Naww.. I think this thread is funny too.

[ElectricThunder]

No it's sad really, and not because a car was crushed............
Well...it's "funny". I guess I should have used the quotes...ya know?

Gus also tends to make things funny as well, so it's funny and "funny".:D

[tec_41]

Well...it's "funny". I guess I should have used the quotes...ya know?

Gus also tends to make things funny as well, so it's funny and "funny".:D

:wave: woot. Like your face.

[seanmanibog]

:flame: got damnit had to take apart my raze today to get to a god damn pebble that was jamming my center diff. lol.

[kikcaffine]

Tec 41- why are you being such a little punk? Your what 16 or 17? Dont try to e-thug behind your computer screen.

[seanmanibog]

kikcaffine dont you love internet bullies

[rhcsavage21]

this is what you do. when ever u run in that parking lot again. have a spike stripe on the top of the body of the car so if they see it, and the spikes they wont run it over. but if they don't and want to be a bum about it you pop their tire :)

[Ball Racing]

Okay :roll2:

[rhcsavage21]

either that or call the police with the licence plate number lol

[tec_41]

Tec 41- why are you being such a little punk? Your what 16 or 17? Dont try to e-thug behind your computer screen.

Nah, sarcasm is more my thing if you haven't picked up on that one...you've covered the e-thugging in this thread :rolleyes: But apparently I'm a 17 year old with more maturity than a 22 year old. Age doesn't give anyone the right to be an internet bully, or automatically give them great respect.

Something just doesn't look right when I picture a 250lb muscle man tough guy in front of the computer screen. Maybe this though :D

[Eli the rc guy]

(barf)..... I like the spike strip on top of the car idea... They crushed your car you blow up their tire! :D

[jacsac]

Next time take naked fat dude with you and cars won't even enter the parking lot.

[seanmanibog]

That is disgusting

[rhcsavage21]

its is very.
Next time take naked fat dude with you and cars won't even enter the parking lot.
that will work very well. i know if i saw that guy i wouldent be coming any were near that state.

[Y2KGTP]

This is why I sold my 4-TEC.....the car could just not turn to save it's own life!

:D