64" Bonzi Fountain torque roll correction

[fountain 64]

I bought this boat 2 years ago and it handled fine with mild torque steer, now something has changed, the boat now pulls hard to the right and leans badly to the right.I've tried trimming the prop up and down and also trimming the right trim tab down with the left trim tab in the neutral position, not much difference. I did notice the rudder which is directly behind the prop has some play in it, when I brought it home I tightened it and was able to get most of the play out. Would the play in the rudder create this uncontrolable situation or could there be another problem.My buddy bought the same identical boat with no handling problems.

[big boater]

IM BACK!!!!!!!!
helo there randy..
i just spend $150.00 for a hard drive o well im back.
i run with randy and we been trying to get this thing running right any help??? thanks.

[fountain 64]

Hey Scott, glad you got a new hard drive, now I can let you know what I found out was wrong my boat.... first the steering speed and sensitivity were set all of the way out to 100% which was making it over steer and therefore making it hook and spin out.... second the rudder was loose again, moving about 1/16"-1/8" each way and third there is definatley interference in that lake, both servos were twitching periodically. This Sunday we should try the other end of the lake where there are no electric lines and see if this works, if that doesn't work we can try Joppatown at Mariner Point Park. If that doesn't work i'm going to try another hull, maybe a Bonzi 51" baja hull, I heard that hull has no handling problems. Is everything ok with your exhaust manifold, did you get it bolted back on?

[big boater]

i did get it back together today. im going to run it tomorow and see what happens. also i put a smaller gas bag in it(250ml) so that will help. im glade your getting your boat set. dont wory we will get it right. i just been trying to get my boat setup right. it feels good to be back on the net for sure. i just cant belave how much the hard drive was. and also i could only get a 160gb drive. i was looking for a 30gb but could not find one that small so owell all is well. did you find out how much that elec. boat is?

[fountain 64]

i did get it back together today. im going to run it tomorow and see what happens. also i put a smaller gas bag in it(250ml) so that will help. im glade your getting your boat set. dont wory we will get it right. i just been trying to get my boat setup right. it feels good to be back on the net for sure. i just cant belave how much the hard drive was. and also i could only get a 160gb drive. i was looking for a 30gb but could not find one that small so owell all is well. did you find out how much that elec. boat is?

I forgot to ask him,but i'm taking his boat back on Wednesday,i'll ask him then.

[big boater]

ok ill take a look at it then. im trying to get my fountin ready for sunday we will see. heres a pic..

[fountain 64]

What kind of hull is that and how long?

[big boater]

its a p.i. the company went out of bissness about a year ago. its 56" long. i love this boat, it runs like a raped ape:D with a full mod engine. only the prop is in the water at full speed and does about 60mph.

[fountain 64]

its a p.i. the company went out of bissness about a year ago. its 56" long. i love this boat, it runs like a raped ape:D with a full mod engine. only the prop is in the water at full speed and does about 60mph.
Whose boat is this , is it for sale?

[big boater]

its mine. no its not for sale. well lets say everythings for sale for the right price:D:D;)

[fountain 64]

its mine. no its not for sale. well lets say everythings for sale for the right price:D:D;)
That thing is sweet, I thought it was someone else's boat for sale on Jims Rc Boat Dock.When are you going to bring that to the lake? Is that called a Performance International.

[big boater]

yes its a performance international boat. im trying to get it done for sunday but we will see. no the boat forsale on jimes is a cat the same type as mine asking 150.00 shipped thats a good price.

[fountain 64]

yes its a performance international boat. im trying to get it done for sunday but we will see. no the boat forsale on jimes is a cat the same type as mine asking 150.00 shipped thats a good price.
Let me check it out again ,I think I did see it.

[big boater]

that cat was sold today.:( that was a good price for a cat and hardware. are you looking for one? if so ill keep an eye out.

[fountain 64]

:confused:that cat was sold today.:( that was a good price for a cat and hardware. are you looking for one? if so ill keep an eye out.

Let me see if I can get the Bonzi straightened out first,if I can't then i'll see what Bonzi can do for me on another hull, probably a shorter one, they told me that the 50"-54" have no handling problems, Sunday will be the last test at the other end of the lake, hopfully it was just radio interference.

[big boater]

randy, what time are you going to be at the pond on sunday?

[fountain 64]

randy, what time are you going to be at the pond on sunday?

Scott, in the morning I have to get the leaves out of my gutters and rake the yard so i'm going try to get up there around 1:00 or 1:30.

[big boater]

OK that sounds good. it will give me more time to get the fountain done:D. i just got done modding my engine it should rock..

[fountain 64]

OK that sounds good. it will give me more time to get the fountain done:D. i just got done modding my engine it should rock..
Scott,When you talk about modding the engine what do you actually do to it, mine might need something done to it to get that big hull out of the water

[big boater]

i open the ports up, cut down the transfer bridge and sharpened it, check the squash band, i lighten the piston, cut intake side of piston skirt, i "m" cut the piston, flat top the piston, check ring gap, and thats about it.:eek::eek::D

[big boater]

o i forgot i do the "turbo mod" to the crank, i cut on the crank case, also have been nown to polish the crankcase:cool:

[big boater]

hello randy, what a day sunday was:D:D man o man i loved it. cant wate till next week im going to bring my fountin out so we can really bang some boats;):eek: no just kidden. and dont forget about asking chuck about what we discust. have a great day..:wave:

[fountain 64]

hello randy, what a day sunday was:D:D man o man i loved it. cant wate till next week im going to bring my fountin out so we can really bang some boats;):eek: no just kidden. and dont forget about asking chuck about what we discust. have a great day..:wave:
Hey Scott, Just ordered the new prop,prop shaft and drive dog for the fountain,this time they suggested the Prather 270 because it's smaller than the m 575, he said my engine will turn more rpm's, the m 575 was too big and put more strain on the engine trying to push such a big boat,he told me they just tested a 64" with the 270 and it flew with a stock zenoah. All of the parts will be here on wednesday so she will definatley be ready for Sunday if weather permits.

[big boater]

sounds good. looking forword to it.

[fountain 64]

sounds good. looking forword to it.
You should bring both boats just in case.

[big boater]

thats the plan:D:D o buy the way did you order a prop nut?? and the plastic washers??

[fountain 64]

thats the plan:D:D o buy the way did you order a prop nut?? and the plastic washers??
Yeah ,I told him Ineeded all that since everything was on the bottom of the pond. Do you think the smaller prop will give it more top end speed?

[big boater]

maby, the only thing you my have to deal with is the prop slippage because of the smaller dia. but it will give you more rpm's. now you my have to give the prop more pitch. we will see what it does and go from there.

[fountain 64]

maby, the only thing you my have to deal with is the prop slippage because of the smaller dia. but it will give you more rpm's. now you my have to give the prop more pitch. we will see what it does and go from there.
It is a Prather 270, is it that much smaller than my M575?

[big boater]

It is a Prather 270, is it that much smaller than my M575?

well your going from a 75mm prop to a 70mm prop so it can make a big difference. so the smaller prop will give you more rpm's but it being smaller it my cavitate allot meaning it will be spinning and the boat going slow. now don't get to worryed yet lets see if your boat likes the smaller prop. it my or my not and just because bonzi sead it works on there boat does not mean it will work on your. remember if you have 2 of the same boats one mite like it the other one may not. now if it does cavitate alot it can be cupped to give it more pitch to grab the water better.

[big boater]

o i forgot to say is p270 means ..

p= pranther
2=2 blades
70= its 70mm dia.

so you get a p270 prop.

now if you had a p275

the 75 means 75mm in dia.

but remember the the 270 and 275 have diffrent pitch. as you would geuss the 275 has a little more pitch. so if your 270 prop does not work you can give it more pitch. we will see.

[fountain 64]

well your going from a 75mm prop to a 70mm prop so it can make a big difference. so the smaller prop will give you more rpm's but it being smaller it my cavitate allot meaning it will be spinning and the boat going slow. now don't get to worryed yet lets see if your boat likes the smaller prop. it my or my not and just because bonzi sead it works on there boat does not mean it will work on your. remember if you have 2 of the same boats one mite like it the other one may not. now if it does cavitate alot it can be cupped to give it more pitch to grab the water better.

The pitch is 4.2"

[big boater]

knowing the pitch is only half the battle. lets see what it does I'm hoping it will be fine but it seems that every prop needs something to run good. now you now not to run it the way it is meaning it needs to be balanced. because if not you could have the same thing happen or worse. did you get the stainless steel or the beryllium prop? and man i cant whate till this Sunday to run it was a blast..

[fountain 64]

knowing the pitch is only half the battle. lets see what it does I'm hoping it will be fine but it seems that every prop needs something to run good. now you now not to run it the way it is meaning it needs to be balanced. because if not you could have the same thing happen or worse. did you get the stainless steel or the beryllium prop? and man i cant whate till this Sunday to run it was a blast..
I'm not sure what one he is sending me, which one is better, there's only a dollar difference between them.
Im going to try to get some time this week to make the hood pins for your cat,figure out how long you want them and what diameter the should be. The threaded end of the pin will be 10/32, that part will be inside of the boat with a nut on it, you need to figure out how long they need to be to be able to go through the hatch and lock, let me know, i'll probably start them tomorrow.

[big boater]

as for the prop, the beryllium is lighter then ss. but its a pain to work on.
as for the boat pins i will get the measurements tomorrow morning for ya and thanks very much.

[fountain 64]

as for the prop, the beryllium is lighter then ss. but its a pain to work on.
as for the boat pins i will get the measurements tomorrow morning for ya and thanks very much.

No problem, we may have have to drill the pins after we fit them to the boat so the clevis pins hold the hatch down tight.

[big boater]

i was just looking at the cat and lets hold off on the pines right now. I'm going to put a latch on the front of the canopy and redo the rubber band idea. the reason is theses cats are very picky on anything that sticks up and may make it flip. now I'm not sure on that but I'm going to try this first. i think with the latch and the magnets it will hold.

[big boater]

i also forgot to ask is, remember when you asked me what i did with my engine mod's do you want me to mod your engine? we may be able to get more out of it. now I'm not sure exactly what bonzi does but i can pull your engine apart and take some measurements and see what we got. now for you ill do it free because your a great guy and a good friend. if anybody els reads this i can mod engines. just ask (fountain 64 ) he has seen my boat run with my mods.

[fountain 64]

i also forgot to ask is, remember when you asked me what i did with my engine mod's do you want me to mod your engine? we may be able to get more out of it. now I'm not sure exactly what bonzi does but i can pull your engine apart and take some measurements and see what we got. now for you ill do it free because your a great guy and a good friend. if anybody els reads this i can mod engines. just ask (fountain 64 ) he has seen my boat run with my mods.
I think i'm going to wait until this spring, what I want to do is buy a new Bonzi 51" Baja hull and put my mod 4 in it and all of my hardware and then buy a new stock Zenoah and then mod the hell out of it for the fountain. From what I hear the 51" Baja really moves on the straight aways with a mod 4 in it and is slippery in the turns, this is what i'm looking for.

[big boater]

i finally got the canopy done on the cat. i used 2 wood dowels on the front of the cowl and I'm still using the magnets. what a pain in the butt:eek: now i can get back on the other boat. i have not been working on my boats because iv been sick. i hope ill feel better by Sunday. i was hopping to get to the pond before Sunday for testing but thats not going to happen:(. have you balanced the prop yet? i would not run that prop until it gets balanced. you don't want your prop shaft breaking again.

[fountain 64]

i finally got the canopy done on the cat. i used 2 wood dowels on the front of the cowl and I'm still using the magnets. what a pain in the butt:eek: now i can get back on the other boat. i have not been working on my boats because iv been sick. i hope ill feel better by Sunday. i was hopping to get to the pond before Sunday for testing but thats not going to happen:(. have you balanced the prop yet? i would not run that prop until it gets balanced. you don't want your prop shaft breaking again.
No it's not balanced, i'm not sure how to do that.

[big boater]

just to inform, it looks like its a go the bleeding is slowing down but ill still call you tomorrow to conform it. god i hope i don't have to go back to the hospital. its only been what 2 weeks:mad:. but anyway theres something i want to talk to you about on Sunday ok. its not really important.

[big boater]

hay randy, i tryed calling you but cant get throw:confused:

[big boater]

still cant get throw. anyway i will be there tomorrow. I'm still working on the fountain I'm hoping i can run it. what time tomorrow???

[fountain 64]

still cant get throw. anyway i will be there tomorrow. I'm still working on the fountain I'm hoping i can run it. what time tomorrow???

Hey Scott, I had the cell phone charge today , that's why you could'nt get through, I'm going to try to get there by 10:00 am.What all do you have to do to the fountain? I'm also bringing the Nitro Vee, I got it running again by putting a new glow plug in it, I also got Chuck's Hyperperformance running but still waiting the flex cable to come in.
.

[big boater]

its done:D i just hope it runs. so ill be bringing both boats. do you still need the glow charger? ill also bring a gallon of glow fuel. I'm trying to figure if yours anything els to bring can you think of anything??

[fountain 64]

its done:D i just hope it runs. so ill be bringing both boats. do you still need the glow charger? ill also bring a gallon of glow fuel. I'm trying to figure if yours anything els to bring can you think of anything??

What is the percentage of your nitro fuel, you don't have to bring it ,I have a half gallon of 20%. Are you going to bring your p 275 prop?

[big boater]

What is the percentage of your nitro fuel, you don't have to bring it ,I have a half gallon of 20%. Are you going to bring your p 275 prop?

its 15%. and yes the prop is on my fountain:D.

[big boater]

so how did you like all that wind:( o well, I'm going to mod the engine MORE I'm pulling it as we speak:D.
also can you get your hands on a peace of alum. i need one thats 1" thick and 5" wide by 6" long. i now this is a big chunk. I'm going to build a prop pitch gage. i will send you a pic of what I'm talking about.

[fountain 64]

so how did you like all that wind:( o well, I'm going to mod the engine MORE I'm pulling it as we speak:D.
also can you get your hands on a peace of alum. i need one thats 1" thick and 5" wide by 6" long. i now this is a big chunk. I'm going to build a prop pitch gage. i will send you a pic of what I'm talking about.

The wind makes it interesting, let me see what I have in my shop at work for the aluminum, it may be thicker , is that ok?

[big boater]

The wind makes it interesting, let me see what I have in my shop at work for the aluminum, it may be thicker , is that ok?

sure, as long as it not alot bigger. it just needs to stand up on end with 3 rods and the prop on it so maby it sould be thicker.

[fountain 64]

sure, as long as it not alot bigger. it just needs to stand up on end with 3 rods and the prop on it so maby it sould be thicker.
Scott, I just finished milling the aluminum block for your props, it's 2 1/2" thick, that's the closest I could get without going too thin and to mill an 1" off would take forever, the length x width measurments are 5" x 6". Being 2 1/2" thick this thing stands up without moving at all.

[big boater]

Scott, I just finished milling the aluminum block for your props, it's 2 1/2" thick, that's the closest I could get without going too thin and to mill an 1" off would take forever, the length x width measurements are 5" x 6". Being 2 1/2" thick this thing stands up without moving at all.

you are the man:eek: i will have to drill 2 1/4 holes for a prop shaft and then drill 2 smaller holes for rods. with this tool ill be able to measure prop pitch so i can start experimenting with different pitches. your prop is allmost done it looks good.

[fountain 64]

you are the man:eek: i will have to drill 2 1/4 holes for a prop shaft and then drill 2 smaller holes for rods. with this tool ill be able to measure prop pitch so i can start experimenting with different pitches. your prop is allmost done it looks good.
Do you have a drill press to drill the 1/4" holes?

[big boater]

Do you have a drill press to drill the 1/4" holes?

yes i can drill the hole, im going to put a prop on the block and then mark were im going to drill. when im done drilling the holes i may get you to drill some small holes and thread them . what ill do is scan the pic of a prop gig so you can see what im doing. its hard for me to xplane it.

[big boater]

heres the pics..

[fountain 64]

heres the pics..
If you want i'll meet you somewhere on rt 40 on my way home around 4:30 and give you the block.

[big boater]

If you want i'll meet you somewhere on rt 40 on my way home around 4:30 and give you the block.

sorry i did not get back with you, i closed up early and laid down and did not get up until 10.00 pm. i cant get it right now as no gas for truck. when i do ill let you no.

[big boater]

heres your prop:D its been thinned,balanced,sharpened,polished, also trailing edge was sharpened... its one nice prop.

[fountain 64]

heres your prop:D its been thinned,balanced,sharpened,polished, also trailing edge was sharpened... its one nice prop.
That thing looks sweet, thanks alot, you definatley need to start selling the props and the services you can provide . The first prop you did worked great and this one looks like it will too.

[big boater]

this prop sould run really good:D im getting better at these props. by the way, can you bend pipe?? I'm thinking of making a header for my fountain maby a alum. pipe. what do you think?

[fountain 64]

[QUOTE=big boater;2375466]this prop sould run really good:D im getting better at these props. by the way, can you bend pipe?? I'm thinking of making a header for my fountain maby a alum. pipe. what do you think?[/QUOTE
What is the o.d. of the pipe, I have a 1/2"bender.

[big boater]

o.d. is 1"

[fountain 64]

o.d. is 1"

I don't have a bender that big plus you need to flare the end of the pipe at the manifold, that will take a big flaring tool. Can you make it out of copper pipe. I may be able to flare a piece of copper pipe that big. Paint it black or silver with some high temp. paint.

[big boater]

I don't have a bender that big plus you need to flare the end of the pipe at the manifold, that will take a big flaring tool. Can you make it out of copper pipe. I may be able to flare a piece of copper pipe that big. Paint it black or silver with some high temp. paint.

I'm going to take the exact measurements tomorrow and we can see what to do. as for using copper it would work. it does not need to be flared the only thing i would have to do is cut 4 slots on the engine side so my clamp will work.

[fountain 64]

I'm going to take the exact measurements tomorrow and we can see what to do. as for using copper it would work. it does not need to be flared the only thing i would have to do is cut 4 slots on the engine side so my clamp will work.

We can get some copper pipe, some 90 degree elbows and some 45 degree pipe and make the pipeand solder it all together,it should work.

[big boater]

will copper pipe bend ez if i heat it red hot?? this is what i was thinking find the right size pipe and heat it so i could bend it to 105* from the exaust manifold.

[big boater]

this is what i came up with..

[fountain 64]

will copper pipe bend ez if i heat it red hot?? this is what i was thinking find the right size pipe and heat it so i could bend it to 105* from the exaust manifold.
Copper will bend easily especially with heat added,but I still think you will need a pipe bender,I believe the header pipe size is 7/8" and it's made from steel or aluminum. A conduit bender will definatley do the job you may be able rent one at Home Depot, then you can just use steel conduit, a lot cheaper than buying a new header.There is one other thing I almost forget about, it a flexible one piece copper pipe used hot water heaters, you can put any kind of bend in it to make it work, real simple

[big boater]

did you see the pics?? it work out ok i just hope it does not leak. im going to bring the other pipe just in case( the one that was on there).

[fountain 64]

did you see the pics?? it work out ok i just hope it does not leak. im going to bring the other pipe just in case( the one that was on there).

It looks good. Can you get the hatch on now? You should run it before you bring it to the pond to make sure it's ok.

[big boater]

It looks good. Can you get the hatch on now? You should run it before you bring it to the pond to make sure it's ok.

no the hatch will not fit. for that to happen i need a wrap to center pipe. also iv been looking a the 1/5 scale cars and i have to get one some how. i love it look at this web site and look for the on-road cars www.largescalerc.com

[fountain 64]

no the hatch will not fit. for that to happen i need a wrap to center pipe. also iv been looking a the 1/5 scale cars and i have to get one some how. i love it look at this web site and look for the on-road cars www.largescalerc.com
Take a copper 45 degree off the 90 degree that you already have and aim it towards the center, this should get you pretty close.

[big boater]

Take a copper 45 degree off the 90 degree that you already have and aim it towards the center, this should get you pretty close.

i was going to do that but it will throw my pipe tune way off and was trying to tune this pipe setup but its not looking good. buy the time its tuned the pipe will be inside the hull and thats not what i want. so i may just put the other setup on it for now untill i can get some money to buy a good(racing) pipe that will work with the canopy.

[big boater]

do you still plan on going to the pond tomorrow?? if so what time? ill be bringing the cat, the flex **** on the fountain is cracked so i cant use that.

[fountain 64]

do you still plan on going to the pond tomorrow?? if so what time? ill be bringing the cat, the flex **** on the fountain is cracked so i cant use that.
I'll be there around 12:00 or 12:30, if i'm going to be later i'll call you.

[big boater]

whats up:D...

[tjhochha]

We can get some copper pipe, some 90 degree elbows and some 45 degree pipe and make the pipeand solder it all together,it should work.

I Used copper pipe to make the entire exhaust system on my boat. I've got a 25cc weed-eater engine running it. I first used normal solder for the joints and it melted and blasted solder and oil all over the inside of my boat within 2 minutes of running the engine. I would suggest using brass brazing rod to seal the joints. Brass has a 1200 degree melting point compared to the 400 degree melting point of solder. you will have to use an oxy-acetylene torch to do it though because of the high melting point. You wont even need to take the solder out of the current joint you can just sweat the brass right into the joint. I figured i'd let you know before you get as frustrated as i was when i had to tear the my boat apart to fix all the holes in the exhaust

[big boater]

I Used copper pipe to make the entire exhaust system on my boat. I've got a 25cc weed-eater engine running it. I first used normal solder for the joints and it melted and blasted solder and oil all over the inside of my boat within 2 minutes of running the engine. I would suggest using brass brazing rod to seal the joints. Brass has a 1200 degree melting point compared to the 400 degree melting point of solder. you will have to use an oxy-acetylene torch to do it though because of the high melting point. You wont even need to take the solder out of the current joint you can just sweat the brass right into the joint. I figured i'd let you know before you get as frustrated as i was when i had to tear the my boat apart to fix all the holes in the exhaust

hello and thanks fr the info.
after i was done with the pipe and was thinking about it and i did think of that so for now the copper pipe is on hold untill i get me some hi-temp. solder or i may brase it not sure yet but for now im putting a good pipe sys. on it. i do thank you for your insite.:wave:

[big boater]

randy heres some more pics..

[fountain 64]

randy heres some more pics..

Hey Scott, The pics are great, the red boat looks real familiar, it looks better right side up, by the way who's the guy in the rescue raft? Ha Ha

[fountain 64]

I Used copper pipe to make the entire exhaust system on my boat. I've got a 25cc weed-eater engine running it. I first used normal solder for the joints and it melted and blasted solder and oil all over the inside of my boat within 2 minutes of running the engine. I would suggest using brass brazing rod to seal the joints. Brass has a 1200 degree melting point compared to the 400 degree melting point of solder. you will have to use an oxy-acetylene torch to do it though because of the high melting point. You wont even need to take the solder out of the current joint you can just sweat the brass right into the joint. I figured i'd let you know before you get as frustrated as i was when i had to tear the my boat apart to fix all the holes in the exhaust

Map gas will also work, it comes in a portable bottle like propane, I use it all of the time with brazing rods on refrigeration lines, it works pretty well.

[big boater]

hello randy, whats up? how do you like this cold wether i hate it. well been working on my boats i have fully moded both engines and got a new pipe set up for the fountain. also been bussy geting the magnum 57 ready. so i will be ready for ya when we go to the pond. also found somebody in baltimore that boats also.

[fountain 64]

hello randy, whats up? how do you like this cold wether i hate it. well been working on my boats i have fully moded both engines and got a new pipe set up for the fountain. also been bussy geting the magnum 57 ready. so i will be ready for ya when we go to the pond. also found somebody in baltimore that boats also.
Hey Scott, sorry I didn't get back to you sooner, my modem on my computer at home quit on me last week, the new one is supposed to be here today, so I had to wait to get work to get on the computer. So you say you found someone in Baltimore that boats also, where at in Baltimore? I have some time off work around the holidays, maybe we'll get a decsent day to run the boats. The Fountain is totally ready to go and I also got the nitro running by cleaning the thrust bearing like you said.

[big boater]

hello randy, well just got a 30" wood boat that im going to use for retrieval should be nice when done. heres a pic..

[big boater]

im also biulding a boat for tony(the guy from baltimore) its a 58"vern hull with a qd 35cc engine. its going to be killer. heres some pics of that..

[fountain 64]

Well it looks like you're starting to get some good business, that cat looks sweet, I know he will be happy with it when your are done with it, you do good work. I think in the spring i'm going to get another motor and let you do your magic on it and get me some more power for the Fountain.

[fountain 64]

hello randy, well just got a 30" wood boat that im going to use for retrieval should be nice when done. heres a pic..

Where did you get that, it looks like fiberglass.

[big boater]

Where did you get that, it looks like fiberglass.

i got it from tony. and it is wood, im going to paint it chevy orange:D :D:D

[fountain 64]

i got it from tony. and it is wood, im going to paint it chevy orange:D :D:D
Is Tony coming to the pond in the Spring?

[big boater]

Is Tony coming to the pond in the Spring?

i will get him there thats for sure:D

[big boater]

randy, i just got a big hydro:D and a new (i think its 43 or 44" long) pi fountin boat plus 2 engines. its going to be a fun spring. i will take some pic.

[big boater]

randy, give me a call, i lost your #...

[fountain 64]

randy, give me a call, i lost your #...

Scott, Clear out your private messages so I can send you my phone number, it won't let me send you a message.

[big boater]

Scott, Clear out your private messages so I can send you my phone number, it won't let me send you a message.

its all clear.:D

[big boater]

randy, we are going boating on sunday not sure what time but will let you no.

[fountain 64]

randy, we are going boating on sunday not sure what time but will let you no.
Scott, let me know what time, I should be able to get up there, i'm going to fly my plane in the early morning at the state park.

[big boater]

im not going to make it. plus its going to be windy(20-30mph) and start raining sometime mid day.:wave:

[big boater]

randy, heres a pic of my hydro im getting a hatch for it.

[fountain 64]

randy, heres a pic of my hydro im getting a hatch for it.Scott that thing looks new. I'm going to keep my eye on the weather, I may still go tommorrow if it don't rain,the temp. is going to be around 60 degrees.