Summit vs. E-Revo

[JTK37]

I've already got a Savage XL and I'm considering an electric as well(no desire to convert the XL). I've found the E-revo pretty interesting and the Summit quite unique as well. I don't really want to make the investment to go brushless yet, and I know the Summit has yet to be released, but what is everyone's opinion so far? Thanks, Joe

[samsquatch]

E-revo=Capable to race,but can backyard bash

Summit=back yard bashing & able to go over terrain the E-revo wouldn`t make it 2.

[timie1]

I would get the E-revo anyday over the Summit. The summit is what? It's not a rock crawler. It's not a racer. It's not terribly fast (presumably) so it'll be terrible for speed runs.
The E-revo CAN be a racer. It handles well and will make it over 95% of the terrain the Summit will, as the summit ain't no rock crawler. The E-Revo is a proven platform that works, and there are many aftermarket upgrades for the Revo that fit the E-revo.

They both look cool, but in a completely different way.

If you ask me, Traxxas were caught off-guard with a proper Rock Crawler, so they modified what they had to capture some of that market. It's more like a jack of all trades that does everything OK but nothing brilliantly. The E-revo does most things nearly brilliantly.

Just my opinion :)

[pasan]

I don't see why the Summit can't be a rock crawler. It's got tons of articulation, with the added benefit of independent suspension. The whole reason 1:1 crawling is against independent suspension is because of poor articulation and the associated cost of modification. The Summit already comes with long travel rockers and the longer suspension links too, and also those tires have a lovely tread. And the E-Revo chassis already has a pretty low COG, and you can shift weight bias by moving the batteries. I'd venture to say it'd be at least as good as an AX10 RTR when it comes to crawling. Plus, if you've seen the video of the Summit, you can see it does have a fair speed in 2nd gear.

[samsquatch]

In my opinion the summit is meant to be a more versatile off road vehicle then a plain old E-revo.The summit in it`s stock form will never be a true rock crawler & I don`t think it was meant to be

[timie1]

But it'll never be taken seriously as a rock crawler. Anything can be made to be a crawler.

Both would be fun, there's no doubt about it, but you could get a proper crawler and it would be far more capable.

[JEAM]

Only thing I don,t like about the Summit, is the body but that,s personal.

[pasan]

Yeah, the body gives it a bigger scale. The truck won't be for the hardcore crawler people obviously, but having said that, I'm sure lots of people would appreciate this truck. Let's wait till Monday and see which site has a review on it first.

[samsquatch]

But it'll never be taken seriously as a rock crawler. Anything can be made to be a crawler.

Both would be fun, there's no doubt about it, but you could get a proper crawler and it would be far more capable.

It wouldn`t be a Traxxas Summit after you throw 90% of it away to make it into a rock crawler.

[BashemSmashem]

I wonder how well the Summits locking diffs will take brushless/LiPo power ?

[JTK37]

I would get the E-revo anyday over the Summit. The summit is what? It's not a rock crawler. It's not a racer. It's not terribly fast (presumably) so it'll be terrible for speed runs.
The E-revo CAN be a racer. It handles well and will make it over 95% of the terrain the Summit will, as the summit ain't no rock crawler. The E-Revo is a proven platform that works, and there are many aftermarket upgrades for the Revo that fit the E-revo.

They both look cool, but in a completely different way.

If you ask me, Traxxas were caught off-guard with a proper Rock Crawler, so they modified what they had to capture some of that market. It's more like a jack of all trades that does everything OK but nothing brilliantly. The E-revo does most things nearly brilliantly.

Just my opinion :)

Thats my dilemma, if the Summit had the same final drive ratio as the E-Revo in 2nd gear and had a more respectable top speed in stock form then it would be a hit. But I'd imagine it would have to be converted to brushless in order to catch a stock E-Revo running on 16.8V. And in doing that some of the low end grunt may be lost thus negating the benefit of the low gear. I want a summit that can conquer anything in low gear (and it doesn't have to be a crawler) but can keep up with the rest of the bashers in high gear.

[ironoutlaw]

i would go with the summit it is just cool sure the evro would be faster but since you already have a off road monster why not venture into some other areas

[Bnoland]

It is going to come down to what you want. Anything came be made to go fast.. the diffs may or maynot hold up to lipo/brushless on the Summit. The Summit looks like it is decently capable on the rocks but it is something you could also take and jump it. If you have no desire to rock crawl at all then I say go with the E-revo. If you think you might want to.. go with the Summit. The Summit wont go some places a purpose built rig will go but it will be fun. I have several comp rigs and I am planning to get a Summit still.

[JTK37]

I elected to go with the E-Revo. Wanted something I can take to the track when I'm not bashing the Savage XL. Backyard is pretty big so I wanted to keep the speeds up, and quite frankly I don't really have anything to crawl on that I haven't been able to blast over yet. We'll see how it goes, first runs tomorrow morning

[pasan]

i would go with the summit it is just cool sure the evro would be faster but since you already have a off road monster why not venture into some other areas

Exactly. I can just picture driving the summit all over the forest which is basically my backyard. My other trucks just end up getting stuck and digging holes or just tearing up the terrain big time by going over obstacles fast.

[CrazyRapids]

You actually can now order a Summit online or from a local hobby shop; but here are some pro's and con's when comparing the Summit to an E-Revo:

:) Summit Pro's :)
+ The Summit can tackle almost any terrain without leaving you with scratch mania.

+ A rugged and reliable bash-vehicle... as long as you don't push the Summit TOO hard when you do really STUPID things.

+ Almost the perfect RC vehicle for traveling along with you.

+ Not easy to flip, and looks like a cool thing to own.

:( Summit Con's :(
- The Summit may stall at times.

- I don't think you can upgrade the Radio system unless you take out the crawling/speed gear.

- Chassis can appear to be limited for the Summit and this makes it look crowded.

- Slightly more pricey than the regular E-Revo.

- Preformance is limited at around 20 MPH.

E-Revo Pro's/Cons
+ E-Revo is the pure-breed monster truck for racing.
+ Well designed with better chassis space and it won't seem as crowded as the Summit.

- Still pricey.
- Can't climb rocks, or incredible nasty terrain.

= Not as modified as Summit but price seems to lay out nicely

[samsquatch]

+ E-Revo is the pure-breed monster truck for racing.

I bet 85% don`t see a track/racing on a regular basis