TTR EB4 Forum

[Mrzoidburg]

Hi Guys,
I just checked and there doesn't seem to be one yet so how about it? Who's got EB4's, what do you think of em', what have you done to them and show us your pictures of em'!
:D
MrZ

[ 08-07-2001: Message edited by: SteveP ]

[marknmedford]

hi Mr.Z,
i have a eb-4 i like it but every time i jump it and it lands on the front it die,s :confused: :confused:

[Mrzoidburg]

Yeah i've heard that. I think if you buy the Ergal aluminium center diff top plate, it has a flanged piece that allows you to relocate the rear chassis brace. From what i've read, it's this brace that will rub against your flywheel when the chassis flexes over big jumps, of course when it touches the flywheel, your engine stalls.

You might even be able to get away with just modifying the stock one.
Give it a try, apart from that, how do you find your EB4?
Is the TTR Pro.21 engine any good?, Reliable, long lasting?
:)
MrZ

[marknmedford]

thank you
i love it and the big air is great
I'll have to get that brace and try that
thanks again :D

[marknmedford]

i have the .21r-pro and its fast enough for me. I had a V-spec for about two weeks and one weekend when i was out of town i thought i would check out a hobby store and they had a used eb-4 chassie for 140.00 so i bought it went home and pulled the motor and radio eq.and put it in to the eb-4 and then sell the V-spec chassie for 150.00 so i made out :D :D :D

[Mrzoidburg]

Sounds like a pretty good deal!
So how old is your Pro.21 and how much fuel do you reckon you've put through it?

What do you know about the S2 conversion kit for the EB4?
MrZ

[ttrcr eb4]

Yes mounting the rear brace to the center diff will stop the stalling problem.Here is a picture of my eb4

http://www.clikshow.com/rc/garages/205-ttrcr/eb4new.jpg

[ 08-07-2001: Message edited by: ttrcr eb4 ]

[Mrzoidburg]

Hmmm, nice pics. :)
Lot of Ergal gear there? Is that stuff expensive, compared to something like GPM gear?
MrZ

[ttrcr eb4]

car ran about 550 us without radio and engine and pipe.

[Kevbo6204]

Hello Everyone!
Well I have been thinking about getting a TTR
LE EB-4 for awhile. r there any problems I should know about it? :)

[new2it]

Nope, Just get it. You will love it. Some more hop ups are available for it. Most come with it. I have found going to a Nicad or Nimh battery pack gives more power and speed to the servos. This seems to help handling. The blue springs make handling better on grass or hard packed dirt. Original tires won't last long. Great buggy. I have seen mine roll and tumble up to about 15 times, and nothing has broken. This does not count the time I ran it under my van at high speed. EB4 forum @ ace hobby. Some hints there too.

Hi TTRCREB4!

D. Root

[ 08-17-2001: Message edited by: new2it ]

[ReMeDy]

I've decided to get a Eb4 now too over the GS strom. When i get it, whats the first hop up to get for it? I was thinking maybe just go with the ergol hardware and then move to torsen diffs.

[Mrzoidburg]

I would recomend the Ergal front upper arm mounts, servo saver top plate and the centre diff plate which allows you to relocate the rear chassis brace.
Titanium or carbide front hinge pins is also a nice upgrade.
MrZ

[Mrzoidburg]

Arrrgh!! My LHS said 6-8 weeks for my super combo, this thursday it will be 8 weeks and now he says "1 more week", "it's on the boat", man you guys in the states are lucky.
:(
MrZ


"Resistance is Usefull"

[BoozzZ]

Ergal rear shocktower, stock one seems to break often.

[ReMeDy]

Does anyone know when the EB4 S2PRO will be released? Or are we just better off buying a S duece kit and adding it to the Eb4 ourselves?

[ttrcr eb4]

Hey david the steeltown race was awsome.

As for the eb4 s2 pro it probably wont make it here for a couple of months.Its supoosed to make its dabue in eurpoe this month.

[KAMIKAZE]

Hi guys!! This is my EB4. www.rctotal.com/eb4 (http://www.rctotal.com/eb4) www.rctotal.com/pics (http://www.rctotal.com/pics)
Unfortunatelly we don't know when the S2PRO will be released in Europe, some distributors told me that delivery was a couple of weeks but that was two months ago, so they even don't know when they will get it.
ttrcr eb4, your car looks great with all that hop-ups, I also have an RBW S7 on my EB4, and it really works great.

[ReMeDy]

LOL man those tires are bald! :) I hope the EB4S2PRO doesn't cost more than a Limited. Now i have to decide on what mid level engine i should pick up. I was thinking maybe a RB CE i think? I dunno.

[KAMIKAZE]

Yes I know, they have many races on it's back, I changed it a month ago, now I want to put some Thumbtacks on it and try if they work well in a snowy pat but I'll have to wait untill winter :D

[supercoop]

Howdy fellow EB4'rs! I have an S2 conversion kit on mine with a Picco O1 - it screams and handles great. Flies really well in the air, unless you hit the brakes and then hello nose dive!

[StevePond]

^^^

[new2it]

Slips? Let it break in. The springs are fine. I drilled holes in my shoes for later engagment. Good Luck with the EB4. Rcaing mine tomorrow.

D. Root

[new2it]

I msised this part. I RUN a little over 2 turns on the high, and the low end flush or around there. YOURS will be different, but not a whold lot.

[zeff]

Yeah it seems to slip.. The engine RPMs are way up but it doesn't seem to go very fast. The directions said to set the mixture 2.5 turn from seated but after poking around on the web i found out that the low speed was from flush. Thanks for the info.

[zeff]

Well, with some help from some friends I found out why it seemed my clutch was slipping. It turned out that both set screws had fallen out of the drive cups on the front and rear drive shafts. The shafts were just spinning the the cups with just enough friction to move the car. I managed to dremel the heads of some M5 screws I had and cut a slot in them for a flat head screw driver. I used those for set screws. Wow! the car flys now! That's one complaint I think I have with the RTR EB-4. I have found alot of loose screws on the car when I got it. I love it besides though. The mixture settings are perfect runs great. Thanks

[DarkWraith]

Yeah... Zeff's buggy definately hooks up now... Much much better.

Just remember though man... The throttle is analog, not digital!!! IT guys... On or off... LOL :D

[new2it]

Blue Locktite!

[Dangerous R/C Works]

Over on ebay there is a guy that has 30 EB4's Combo, on a Dutch auction. They are asking $399.00 each.
I have been thinking about getting one of these. What is the forums opinion on this Combo?:confused:

[zeff]

I just got my EB-4 Super Combo a week ago. I love the car! It can hold it's own. My friends have an MP 7.5 Kanai edition with about $1,000 into the car and an OFNA Worlds II with alot more than $440 into it. I can race with these guys without getting left behind. It's a good car for the price and it's upgradeable also. I say get it!! That's a good price! The radio leaves something to be desired. Make sure if you do get one check and locktite the screws. i learned the hard way (as U can see from my previous post). Good Luck!

[zeff]

I'm looking for another body for my EB-4. What bodies fit the EB-4? Anyone have any suggestions on tire replacements?

[gtwolfpack]

I bought an EB4 S2 Pro last weekend and have built up to the front part, center diff and rear bulkhead...It looks like a great car out of the box with all glazing red ergal parts and 4mm-thick 7075 chassis. The parts fit quite nicely and the manual is so user-friendly..I used to run MP5 and Athelte at the same time maybe five years ago and I am now excited to complete EB4 S2 Pro and see how the unique front suspension actually functions...I am going to add an ergal servo saver top plate and carbon graphite servo tray...More to come..

[CAT]

I was thinking to get the s2 conversion kit but I'll wait for the s2PRO conversion kit, that car is bad to de bones.

[jayjayy]

http://www.communityzero.com/servlet/ViewImage?file=\\NetApp\home\content\A170000\16331 1\images\1178773-000.JPG

testing.. this is my EB-4

[Remedy1]

Your linky is no worky..:(

[jayjayy]

hmm... doesn't seem to work.. give it any try...

http://www.communityzero.com/servlet/ViewImage?file=\\NetApp\home\content\A170000\16331 1\images\1178700-000.JPG

[jayjayy]

any one can help me with this?...
so i can send to one of you guys..

[jayjayy]

ok... another try..

[jayjayy]

another view..

[Remedy1]

Droooooolll.....:eek:

List the specs on it bro!:D

[jayjayy]

Well, i think it is all hoped up with the Ergal goodies as it is the EB-4 LE. so far, i am having
- OS .21RZ-V01 with a novarossi 053 pipe.
- Futaba 3pjs with 9450 for throttle and a KO 2144 for steering.

This is a nice buggy and really easy to drive. but i am not getting enough steering with it. Anyone can recommend some setup please?...

Where are all the EB-4 owners went?.... HHHEEELLLLOOOO!!!???

[Remedy1]

Why did you go with the 053 exhaust instead of the 086?:confused:

[jayjayy]

well, cos that's the one i had lying around. I don't have any $$ to buy a new one... if i have the choice, of cos i'll go for the 086..
BTW, what is the 053 for?... mid range?

[new2it]

JJ,

Want steering? Try changing the Akerman. You will have so much, you won't know what to do with it. -1 camber all the way around to start.

Blue springs front, Yellow rear. 40wt front 30 rear.

Arms level or a little higher front, level rear.


ditch the sway bars.

TOW out a little front, will be more aggresive turning in.

Smooth or bumpy? Loose or Blue Groove?

David Root


Just ordered a whole bunch of stuff. Frame, Ergel shock towers, and knuckles. Going to columbur RC winter Gas championship!!

This spring.....RB WS7!

[jayjayy]

really thanks for the advice!

i will try it out later as it is raining like there is no end over here...:( BTW, what diff fluid wieght you are using right now?...

my current set up is

yellow front and rear, with 45wt front and 35wt rear.
both arms slightly above level.
Diff F-C-R (3000-3000-100)
shorter wheelbase set up
least caster angle.

i am thinking that the stock 3 degree toe in at the rear is too much for my liking and i am considering getting the 1 degree toe in. any info about it?

change the ackerman?.. but how? it just come with a ergal ball bearing slider and i don't have any alternative holes to alter the ackerman. any help would be muchly appreciated..

and what do you mean by blue groove? is that related to the track surface???

all the best to your competition..:) EB-4 way to go!!!
:cool:

[new2it]

UMmmmm I'm using silicone grease. thick front and thicker ctr. Both packed full. Regular wheel bearing (moly) grease in the rear diff. Just enough to lube the gears. Sorry about the akerman thing, mine is RTR version.

I use 2 toe in the back. Works for me.

Blue groove=verry sticky, dirt takes on rubber and turns black after racing. Hard packed almost like black top. Verry little dust.

D. Root

[jayjayy]

hi there new2it, thanks for the advice and just bought the rear toe-in bars... will give the 1 degree toe in for a try.... but meantime the track is still wet.. so just gotta wait...:(

ok.. here's my buddy's EB-4 LE

[jayjayy]

guys, are you experiencing the same problem I am having with my EB-4 rear drive cup? It seems to wear down VERY quickly...
The funny things is that, it wears down only the rear ones not the front.... meanwhile the front drive cups show minimal to no wear at all..... any ideas?
Here's a pic to show you guys~

[jayjayy]

this is my buddy's drive cup....:(
any ideas why is it happening?..:confused:

[jayjayy]

my buddy's EB-4 LE without body..

[windellmc]

Supposedly there was a bad batch of drive cups some time ago. Also for more steering you could try the S2 conversion although I notice that you already have an S2 body so I am wondering if you have an S2 pro and not an LE? If you need high speed steering try moving the upper front arms as far back as possible (increase the negative caster) with the adjustment clips. Everyone says the EB-4 has the best low speed steering out there.

[new2it]

What weight front shock oil do you have?
Get rid of the front sway bar. It will take away a lot of steering. I had a problem with "Hooking" . This was the front digging in so hard the rear end comes around. Annoying. I had my center diff too stiff, if I was turning and released the throttle suddenly, the outside rear wheel would come off the ground. That is steering. (too much)

I also found the sway bars bind in the mounts. I took a flat washer, cut off 1/3 of it. Turned the car up side down, and put it on the screw that holds the sway bar on. This let the bar swing free. To see if yours is binding, unhook the shocks. Move the suspension up and down. Both wheels. If you feel any binding or resistance, add the washer so there is more space where the bar sits in the hollow spot. I also had to put a flat washer in front of that to keep the bar in place. This had to be done front and rear. I only run them in high traction situations.

Caster shims all in the rear. Run the least caster possible. Some people even trim the upper arm in front to make it less. See the TWF8 sight. They put togather a LE there. Good article.

Getting ready for Columbus Winter Gas championships....Only 2 weeks.

Let me know how it works out. Snow here. we can only run inside, I will be driving 6-8 hours to get there. MY son is coming with me.

D. Root

[jayjayy]

windellmc, new2it,
I am having the EB-4 LE not the S2 and how can you tell from a EB-4 body and a S2 body?
hmmm..... so this means me and my fellow buddies might be having the bad batch of drive cups? But why just the rear end and not the front wearing out? I tried lubing it every run and it seems to work out a bit but still wearing off. And there was once I forgot to lube it... and there goes the huge worn off notch on my drivecup...:( I am not talking about 2 EB-4s but at least 10 of us. Everyone in my state is experiencing this problem... and only the rear end...:confused:
And what I might probably try is to use the centre ones to see if I will be facing the same thing..


As for my settings, I am currently using the least castor angle up front, yellow springs with 45wt shock oil front and yellow spring with 35wt at the rear.
With all wheelbase clips at rearend to keep the it as short as possible and sway bars are not binding.
I can't change the ankerman angle as I am having the Ergal BB slider which it doesn't provide alternative holes for other settings.

and I found that my centre diff is leaking so I rebuilt it with 50000wt (yes, 50000wt) silicon diff fluid. Initially I am using 5000wt and not providing enough steering and out of turn punch. So, I went crazy with 50000wt.. and will try it out to see what happens next. Will update you guys later!..

Thanks for all the info !!

Just reinstalled my computer.... crashed on me few days ago....:mad:

[windellmc]

The TWF8 website did a review of the EB-4 LE some time ago and commented on the rear drive cups going out quick. The rears get the most beat on which might explain why they are so much worse than the others. You should get a new pair and see how they do. That black car above looks to be the older EB-4 body. The S2 body looks different. I'm not sure how to explain it but if you go to the Acehobby (U.S. TTR distributor) website you can see the S2 body.

[MadMarko]

Had the same problem with the rear drive cups. Use a set of mugens. Direct fit. They are a little deeper but it does not create any problems if you have the down stops set correctly so that the shock does not overextend. Been running the same set for 9 months with zero wear. Most of us run the Mugen cups in the rear.

[MadMarko]

Diffs are a pretty quick fix.

3000 front (5000 max or it will push like mad)
7000 or 8000 rear (10000 will make the same push occur)
grease (no O-ring) frees up the rear to come around quickly on exit from turns.

Hands down the EB4 has the quickest steering (sometimes a little too quick).
FYI - remove the funky horns on the front caster and cut down the Ackerman per the instructions. It has limiters built in to it. You will have more steering than you can imagine.

Depending on the conditions I often have to dial out some steering or slow the servo so it doesn't react too fast.

Good luck.

[jayjayy]

hmm... all the pics i posts here are the EB-4 LE, gotta have a look on my other buddy's S2 to see what's the difference in the body.. but he is too having the same problem with the drivecup wearing down fast.....

yes, i do agree that putting anything heavier than 5000wt in front will take away a lot of steering. one of my fried accidentally filled it with 10000wt instead of 1000wt and the car never steer!.. push like mad as madmarko said.

oh yes, about the mugen cups. which model should i get? the MBX-4? RR? XR? super athelete? or are they all the same?.. gotta try out a pair of them!... it is just real headache to replace the cups in just a few weeks..

thanks guys!

[defunct]

I noticed that Nuova Faor (www.nuovafaor.it) makes ergal upper arms for EB-4. Does anyone know if they fit on EB-4 S2 or are they mentioned for EB-4 rally game conversion only ? Nuova Faor part number is ART.E49.

Thanks

[jayjayy]

defunct,
i think it will fit the S2 as it is having the same layout as the normal EB-4... I'd made a comparison with my friend's S2 and my EB4-LE.. they seem to look the same....

[new2it]

I am pretty sure the EB4 takes the same upper arms for S1 and S2. Same part # Go to NatioalRC on line to check part #s. They also are having a blowout on NF parts.

Mine is sitting on the bench getting a total rebuild, Staying with the original Chasis this time. Going to CRCRC to race this weekend. Hope all the parts come in. Right now it looks like a bomb hit it. EVERYTHING is apart.

Going for a WS7 engine next. TTR engine still runs great.

D. Root

[windellmc]

new2it - I assume you have the RTR EB4? How is the power on that TTR engine? Do you get smoked by the $200+ engines or is it still competitive?

[MadMarko]

Mugen RR or XR drive cups. just be sure to limit the down travel a hair
Good luck
See you all at CRCRC with my TTR

[new2it]

My engine runs great, 4 gallons or so and it still has tons of compression. I overheated it when I first got it, because I was trying to use too low of nitro, but this didn't hurt it at all. I have plenty of power with 25% Omega, or 30% blue Thunder Race. Most everybody around here has OS RG. I don't know who has more, but the only time I did drag one he got me out of the hole, and I cought up and passed. I had a 14 clutch he had a 13. It aint overpowered, but will last a long time. Getting a WS7 or something soon. Uncle Sam gave me some of my money back. Maybe a Picco, I never had one. I have a RB X12 on my GT, I love it. Still tight after over 30 tanks of fuel. This makes a WS7 slook good to me.

David Root Going to CRCRC!!! Gonna race my EB4!!!

[repete]

I am about to order my eb4 s2 and was wondering if it came with any diff fluid.

if not who makes some.

[SuperMaxx 21]

Were's the cheapest place to buy the ttr eb-4 buggy

[jayjayy]

repete,
the S2 doesn't come with any diff fluid or damper fluid....

i am using Trinity damper (shock) fluid and Kyosho diff fluid.....
works for me....:)




supermaxx21,
I got my EB-4 LE for less then USD 300..

[repete]

yea I found out and ordered 1000-5000-8000 and some others just to tinker with but so far the buggy looks good

[MadMarko]

My Bad
I just read my post it should read
3000 front
7000 or 8000 center
Grease rear
DOH

[vzla]

Hey Guys,

I just got a used, well practically brand new, EB4 rtr and this is my first Nitro car.

After I ran 1/2 tank, I got the feeling that the clutch was slipping too much. Since I only have the rtr owners manual, I decided to post this thread before I start going too far without instructions. I was wondering if there is a detailed manual that shows how to put everything back together and gives some tunning options.

I would like to take it appart to fill the difs and shocks with the recomended oils and/or silicone grease, but although I am a good and crafty mechanic, I would feel more secure if I had instructions.

Any idea where I could get the manual and is there an upgrade to replace the rear dogbones? I could only find MIP CVDs for the Mirage V.

Thanks in advance for the information,

vzla.

[windellmc]

Try the forums at www.acehobby.com for more EB4 info including instruction manual help.

[d-man73]

I am new too 1/8 scale just bought the rtr eb4 and I notice the front wheel breaklose faster then the rear is this normal or can it be adjusted so all four wheels drive on power.
front and rear diffs are still factory not sure if there is oil or grease in them?
radio that comes with the kit is just a paperweight my 2 cents I replaced it with 3pjs and better servos.
so far I love this car it smokes all my other cars and trucks I own.

[new2it]

Recomemded diff fluid is something like 3,000 front, 7,000 ctr, and grease in the rear. I packed my ctr full of thick wheel bearing grease. It works well, but sometimes when I am entering a corner and let off the throttle in a hurry, the front end pushes.

The fronts spinning more is because of weight transfer, and more weight is in the rear anyhow. Stiffer springs will help this problem, but might create others. I use blue in front and yellow in the rear.

You have an awsome buggy there.
David Root

[kenny301]

i agree with new2it, i run 3000 up front, 5000 in the middle, and 1000 in the back, i found the blue springs in the front are too stiff with the S2 conversion, i run yellows all around. i have no complaints as of yet.

edit: the cheapest places i have found to buy the eb4 are ebay and www.nationalrc.com

[Bus Driver]

It all depends on the track surface.My track has alot of traction so I use 7000 up front 10000 in the middle and 1000 in the rear.The less traction the lower oil you will use in the front or middle.

[Bus Driver]

here is a pic of a mugan rr works,Kyosho Kani,and an my eb4

[Bus Driver]

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[vzla]

All buggies look great, but it would be great for someone to post after trashing/bashing or racing pics.

[WHITESTER1]

Hey here is a video of a buggy in action. It's not pics, but close. LOL

1/8th scale racing footage (http://members.wnyip.net/whitester/videos/hyper7.wmv)



Hey Bus Driver, are you taking fools to school?

[vzla]

Has anybody converted their EB4s to Monster Truck status?

I am thinking of doing this but other than getting the monster size rims and tires, probably Ofna's MT3 with T-Maxx rubber, I have to figure out the gear ratio necessary to still have a vehicule with enough speed to leave behind any T-Maxx and MP...

Any clues as to come up with the right ratio is more than welcomed.

Thanks in advance,

vzla

[SuperMaxx 21]

I am new to the 1/8th scale buggy scene and I just bought a slightly used TTR EB-4 RTR and I was woundering were I could find a manuel for it.One more question what should I upgrade first on the car.

[ttreb4]

Here is my EB4 and Mirage V Spec

ttreb4 has attached these iamges

http://www.eb4.50megs.com/eb4pics/eb41.JPG

http://www.eb4.50megs.com/eb4pics/eb418.JPG

http://www.eb4.50megs.com/eb4pics/racing1.JPG

http://www.eb4.50megs.com/eb4pics/racing2.JPG

http://www.eb4.50megs.com/miragepics/racing1.JPG

http://www.eb4.50megs.com/miragepics/racing2.JPG

[ttreb4]

heres my new car

http://www.eb4.50megs.com/eb4pics/neweb46.JPG
http://www.eb4.50megs.com/eb4pics/neweb43.JPG

[Bus Driver]

Looks very nice.Where in canada are you?

[Bus Driver]

oh yeah we like going up to canada or you boys coming down and putting a whoopin on you fellows.lol

[ttreb4]

I live in Windsor Ontario right across the Detroit River.

[Bus Driver]

oh thats pretty far from buffalo,nice looking buggy.

[ttreb4]

Thanks my dad just finished painting that body on monday and am going to race on sunday. I'm a pretty good driver, this is only my fourth race I have gone to and last week I took 3rd place and beat most of the top drivers out there. And im only 16, most of those guys are a little older than me and have been driving for 10 to 15 years and I can beat them no problem. They also have more powerful motors like RB C4 and top of the line Nova Rossi's and I got a RB WS7. Dont think Im putting the engine down with the right pipe and header on it with a good driver and setup it is ausome especially when I am only about 4 seconds off from the first place finisher.

[camillerim]

hey guys
I'm new to the 1:8 buggy scene and i just bought the TTR EB4 super combo. what hop-up parts can you guys suggest i purchase to make this car a champion? and any recommendations or tips about this car, before i break in the engine?

thanx heaps

[OmegaTrac]

Im seriously considering getin a TTR EB4-S2. What is a Eb-4 super combo? I cant find them anywhere? I was looking at the EB4-S2 and getting and OFNA/Picco motor, HiTec servos, and a JR receiver to go along with my XR3 I have already. What should I do? This would be my first 1/8th Buggy, and I already race 1/10th Nitro.

[windellmc]

The EB-4 super combo comes with engine and radio. It also only has a solid center diff (ie no diff action) and a single brake disk. It may also have plastic chassis braces but I'm not sure on that one.

There was an EB4 S1 super combo sold in the US that was a full kit with a good TTR engine and Hitec radio but the S2 Super combos are all the stripped down kit.

The first two parts you need are the ergal center diff top plate and the ergal front upper arm mounts. The ergal steering slider and suspension plates are also nice but not absolutely necessary. Ergal shock towers are good if you bend the stock ones but mine seem pretty strong.

BTW, I have my EB4 up for sale in the for sale forum.

[OmegaTrac]

Thank for the info. Is your EB4 going for around $300? Ive got a Pirate 10 Monster. Maybe we could work something?

If we cant get a deal, im gettin a S2 PRO

[windellmc]

I wouldn't be interested in the Pirate. What would you be willing to pay for my car? I was asking $300 with engine or $225 without.

[OmegaTrac]

Sorry, dont got enough funds at the moment. I would need to get rid of the pirate first.:(

[camillerim]

hey everybody
ive just recieved an eb4, and i was curious what speeds you guys (with the rtr eb4) can reach ?
and also what are the things, if any, i need to watch out for with the rtr version?
thanx alot fellas

[camillerim]

sorri guys i forgot to mention that my buggy is the RTR version

[windellmc]

Look out for loose screws. It's usually a good idea to threadlock all metal to metal fasteners on all brands of RTR models. Probably the first part you will break is the front upper arm mount. There is an ergal replacement that is bulletproof.

[windellmc]

Omega - If you get your Pirate sold and want to buy my EB4 let me know.

[the_swed]

Im thinkin of buying the super combo....
What is the weakest point on the car, wich part brakes more often and how much does it cost to replace?
I would like as much as possible before buy it... (hate surprises)

[the_swed]

One thing i forgot....

What is the real difference betwen the supercombo and the normal one...
Some says that the super combo doesnt have center diff and dual disc brake...

But if you take a look this review it says it does...
http://www.off-road.com/rc/thundertiger/eb4.html'
What is true/false?

[windellmc]

Some time back a Thunder Tiger rep in the US sent some regular kits back to TTR to be made into RTR super-combos. These were full blown S1 kits. At the same time there was also an EB-4 super combo with no center diff and only 1 brake available elsewhere in the world. All S2 super combos have no center diff and only 1 brake. If you find an S1 super combo in the US then it is probably a standard kit car with center diff. Since you are in Sweden I would assume that all super combos you run across will have no center diff.

[Gmanlusk2004]

Just bought a TTR EB-4 S2 rtr Super Combo!!! can't wait to race and kick some butt after i get some ergal stuff and a better engine and install my FM Radio!!! peace Garrett

[STRACING]

Can an EB4 or EB4 LE be upgraded to the S2? what are the differences between the EB4LE and the S2?

[Gmanlusk2004]

yes. both of them can. It's only a 67 dollar upgrade... i don't even know if it's worth it though. I can't tell a difference in my s2 and storm.
L8r,
Garrett

[chzops]

hey gman where do u race??? i live in north houston.....I race at J's and M&M

[Gmanlusk2004]

i planned on going to M&M yesterda(saturday august 18) but my front diff wore out on my storm. :( i need to get that fixed. you are saying, just use the ttr. I sold that the other day, love the storm a lot better.
Later,
Garrett

[d-man73]

has any one fit a body from a storm, mugen, or any of the other 1/8 scale buggies onto there eb4 ttr was there any problems with fit like too now so I dont buy one and it will not fit right.
thanks.

[nitronate]

yo does anyone know where i can find a good eb4 s2 ot limited kit rtr or non. or where i can get a new one thanx

[Gmanlusk2004]

go to ebay.com everynow and then, a seller called limnet has an eb4 s2 super combo for a "buy it now" price of $389.00 Had one for a while, but then i got a storm.
Later,
Garrett

[Bus Driver]

I have an eb4 s2 with alot of hop up parts.I am asking 275 rolling chassis.e-mail me if you are interested.

Stefchmielewski@aol.com

[Tstalion79]

Do any stores carry the EB4-S2 still? I dont want the pro edition, just the regular one. Thanks!

[Ho Hotwheels]

I'm thinking about purchasing an Eb4 S2 Pro? Is it a good kit to go racing with thanks. If not could you suggestion another kit?


Thanks

[Tstalion79]

I have found that EB4's break alot. Especially in the front end. For 500 dollars, the S2 Pro isnt really a great value either. It isnt really any better than the regular eb4 S2. I think you should either go with a regular eb4 S2 or a mugen XR or a kyosho mp 7.5

[Ho Hotwheels]

Thanks for the info, this saves me major money

[Bowtie_Guy]

I have owned a s2 pro for a full season racing every race.
Have not broke a piece of plastic. I came over a table top bounced over a dead buggy rolled into a guard post. I broke a KYOSHO shock body, bent both front hinge pins, and pulled both screws out of the bulkhead. But all the plastic was fine. I did replace the upper arms last week because they were starting to bend. I am more than pleased with my s2 pro. I also own a 7.5 and would say that its great also. But for the money the s2 pro has a little more hopups. :D Good luck

[Ho Hotwheels]

Wow! Alright! I'm conviced it's tough enough


Speed wise the EB4 should be conpetitive with the other buggies right? I'm planning on racing with it, so I need a good chassis




Thanks again

[Tstalion79]

the eb4 is very competent in racing. It is really the driver that makes the difference, as well as the engine. Personally, i would get the mugen XR for 80 bucks cheaper, or the kyosho 7.5 for 50 bucks cheaper. I have owned all three. They all drive VERY VERY VERY well, but the kyosho and mugen are more durable....and less expensive than the s2 pro...

[Bowtie_Guy]

Well , lets look at hopups! (Kyosho) $450.plastic bushings in stearing and dog bones. Expencive parts. But readly available.

Eb4 s2 pro, $500. No dog bones, Ball bearing stearing, engral alu knuckles, Alum upper arm support, Parts are low cost. Down side, Sum parts are hard to find. For 50 dollars more? I dont think that would cover the dogbones. But yes, if you can drive both and make you choice from there.:D

[Tstalion79]

First off, the car steers amazingly well otu of the box, and 2 years ago kinwald was driving it without universals. These make very little difference . I would definately get the 7.5

[Bowtie_Guy]

OK? So Brian Kinwald drove 1/8 buggy??
The team losi Brian Kinwald? Im talking about what you get for the money. As far as uni's and other parts that i mentioned before. If you drove a s2 pro you would know that s2 has almost too much stearing. The only thing that comes close is a XR. For the money ..BY FAR! Im not gonna sit here and kick a dead horse but the writing is on the wall.

[Tstalion79]

Yes, Brian Kinwald drives a 1/8th buggy.....and yes it is a kyosho mp 7.5......he is sponsored by kyosho and losi.....and i OWN AN S2, it is not the PRO but there is very little difference.

[Bowtie_Guy]

Huh, dont hear much about Kinwald and 1/8 buggys ...gofigure. But like YOU said.
Its all about the driver
( I ) have had no problems with (MY) pro. Writing is still on the wall.:D

[Tstalion79]

Yeah kinwald has been using the 7.5 for 2 or so years now. You are completely right, its all about the driver, but that doesnt mean that both buggies have the same durabilty.....

[Bowtie_Guy]

Yeah, Well my foot is getting tired ill quit kicking. And keep driving my s2, prolly forever . At least thats when something should break. Maybe even another Kyosho shock body?

[Tstalion79]

hahaha.......that is why there are only two pro's that use them....over 70% of the pros drive kyosho...

[Bowtie_Guy]

Must of taken all day for you to come up with that. What did Saxton drive for a while? And BTW you see the two eb4's in the top ten everywhere the "pros" race.
But I dont recall seeing Kenwald in there anywhere? If you would do more homework then waste air you would know that there are alot more eb4's being raced in Europe than America. Along with Crono's
Just in case Europe is across the ocean.

[Tstalion79]

HAHAHA! Hey, check the TOP OF THE LIST on all of the race results and you will see KYOSHO MP 7.5 You are the one who should be doing your homework because kinwald is heavily into 8th scale. Yes, i knew that europe is across the ocean...you dont have to go showing off that you know that just because you found it out today...

[Ho Hotwheels]

I never knew such a innocent question could cause such a argument ! Anyways, thanks alot guys for your help, I really appreciate it. Hopefully I will be purchasing an EB4 S2 Pro within the near future. I'll report on how it performs!

[Tstalion79]

May i just ask why you are spending the extra 50 dollars on a car that is not as good as an mp 7.5?

[Bowtie_Guy]

Go back up and read. Its got alot more aka, hopup parts. That you would spend extra money to get for the 7.5. I own 3 eb4's a KYOSHO 7.5 and a 7 pro.
So yes, thats why I argue. FOR THE MONEY THE EB4 MIGHT SOUND LIKE ALOT MORE ...But if you think about what you get its not. Thats why I said only the xr is close for the money. Not saying anything bad about the 7.5. I like mine .
Just FOR THE MONEY the eb4 and xr are better. Because they all are great racing buggys. And VERY DURABLE. And yea the hyper pro gets the job done also. Havent really broke anything on it also (but a upper arm)

[Tstalion79]

YOU ARE MISSING MY POINT... All of the buggies drive very well, but the 7.5 is more durable. It is seriously a known fact. Not only do I say it, but pros, magazines, and all of my local racers agree with me on that.

[Ho Hotwheels]

The reason is I'm buying a display model that my LHS already built so I'm getting a discount. The Eb4 S2 Pro will come with a Modified Rossi engine and Rossi tuned Pipe from about $900. Where I live I wouldn't be able to buy all these parts with that for that much money.

[Ho Hotwheels]

I'm still however seriouly debating my purchase. Nothing finally yet---so I still may yet buy an mp7.5.

[Tstalion79]

900 is ridiculously high. I would stay away from Rossi engines (you arent talking about novarossi right?) because they have a ceramic sleeve. The ceramic sleeve offeres enormous compression, but if you run it "out of tune" for even just 2 or 3 tanks, you can lose the compression in an instant. Here is what i would do, but its your choice:

Kyosho MP 7.5 (449.99)
OS RZ V01B engine (around 250)
RB Pipe, any one of them would be good (about 90)

That gets you a KILLER setup. Also, just for backup of my point, TONS of pro's use the OS engine, and it is NOT modified by anyone, it is stock. The OS and RB Ws7 are the two engines to beat right now.

[Ho Hotwheels]

Thanks; you have to remember I live in Canada as well. The main reason I thought it would be a good buy is because I came with a modified Rossi engine but now I know better.


:D :D :D

[Gmanlusk2004]

storms are over there too!
signed,
anti-kyosho

:D

[PBrad]

I have a Rossi engine and it is awsome. If you run any engine lean for 2 or 3 tanks you will also loose compression and even more because the ceramic material is alot more heat-resistant and can take much higher temps than chrome can and still have great compression. It's actually not fully ceramic either, just the sleeve has ceramic particals cooked in during manufacturing.

A friend said his Rossi engine lasted about 12 gallons before he rebuilt it. That is twice as much as standard engines last. My Rossi is not quite that old yet though

[Ho Hotwheels]

This is so confusing----everyone seems to have there own oppions. Thanks for the info.

[Tstalion79]

Dont think that i said rossi engines are bad. In fact, they haul arse...

[Ho Hotwheels]

I understand what your saying. They haul, but you better be good at tunning and else you'll have a expensive paper weight.

[Tstalion79]

Hehe. Tuning engines really isnt hard if you have done it a few times. Just as long as it makes a nice plume of smoke when you hit the throttle, you should be ok. The ROSSI manuals also come with VERY good tuning instructions.

[PBrad]

The Rossi's don't come with an engilsh manuel. So unless you speak Italian or French or something, don't get too excited

It is actually a bit different when tuning a Rossi. Its not good at all to run it rich because the compression causes it to preignite. Liek when you give it full throttle, it runs rich, then bogs for a half sec, then rich for a few seconds, then bogs again and so on. Kinda sounds like its lean and rich at the same time. If it does this, that just means that it needs to be leaned out a bit. If you run 30%, make sure you have an extra head shim!!

[Tstalion79]

I speak italian :) By the way, what good does it do to run 30%? Thanks

[PBrad]

I run Odonnells 30% The more nitro % the cooler the engine runs plus you get more power which is the most important. The only downside is that runs times are a bit shorter.

[Bowtie_Guy]

I know its a s2 pro. Hope ya guys like it.
Sorry its a little fuzzy. I had to make it smaller than it should be.

[Tstalion79]

Nice ride bowtie guy!!!! Show us some pics of the inside!

[Bowtie_Guy]

Thanks man! Here is another fuzzy one.

[Tstalion79]

Very nice, very red. That car looks sweet, but the only thing i hate are those flat mud guards.

[Bowtie_Guy]

Thanks. Yea, the mud guards are pretty heavy on the suck.

[modelcar]

New Ergal Chassis for TT EB4 S2 from Fioroni: very strong and Light respect the original.

[modelcar]

New Ergal Chassis for TT EB4 S2 from Fioroni: very strong and Light respect the original.

[PBrad]

It's not always good to have a light chassis as that will increase the center of gravity a bit which is not good for performance.

It is good to have a stronger chassis though:cool:

[Bowtie_Guy]

Thats a sweet chassis.. How much are they? And I just bought a 7075 engral s2 chassis. :(

[oohnoo]

Just bought an EB4 off of Ebay and I have a couple of questions. I believe it's a Eb4 S2 RTR as the motor has the stock cooling head on it and the shocks are of the plastic type and it also gas a bunch of Ergal parts on it. Right now I total dissambled it and in the process of putting it all back togethere again. So far I'm impressed with the way it's built, very tight and ridged compaired with my Ofna's. My question is how is this motor? I know it's a stock one but it seems to have life in it, I would like to know if I can get a coling head for it or should I just buy a new motor. The second one is what about the shocks. The stock ones are plastic and I would like to upgrade to better ones. Are there any others that would fit on this buggy? I heard that ones from a T-Maxx will fit. I also noticed that the front and rear are the same size. Just hope that the problem with getting parts is no longer an issue as what I've read on this board. I'll post some pics once I get it all together again.

[Bowtie_Guy]

Hi. As far as shocks go, I use 7.5 shocks. But you can buy differant and better from thunder tiger. Just about any 1/8 buggy shock will work. Dont think T mAxx shocks will work. The engine, (guessing its a 21 pro?) Its a good engine 2.1 hp. Held a tune and did what it was supposed to do for me. I dont know about the cooling head?? Parts? There are three or four places to get your parts. ace-hobbies, nationalrc, ehobbies, and rcbjonline. Im not sure on the spelling on the last one. Havent had to buy parts for a while sooooooo.???

[Ady]

Hi everyone,

I'm thinking about buying a TTR EB-4 LE. Do you all think it's a good choice? How durable are these cars? Will there be much chance of me breaking something and needing spare parts? Also the guy in my LHS said the car will be capable of 90Kph out of the box. Is he full of it? Anything else I need to know?

thanks. :)

[Bus Driver]

Just ask yourself one question.Can you get parts for the car?I know alot of people from your area have a hard time getting parts.The car is really good but if it breaks and sits on the bench for weeks what good is it.

[Ady]

Thats a good point Bus Driver. I just contacted my LHS and they said they shouldn't have problems with getting parts.
What is the difference between the LE and the S2 Pro?

[Tstalion79]

The S2 and LE are different cars basically. The LE was basically the "pro" edition before the EB4 S2 came out. The S2 has a different chassis, different arms, and other stuff that im not sure about.

[PBrad]

The S2 Pro is the latest and the version you want. Still though the EB-4 hasn't had any upgrades in about 3 years.

[Ady]

arrghhh too many things to consider. I'm such a bad decision maker. Ohwell I guess I just gotta get out there and buy something, and hope for the best.

[ZzS]

Hi all!

I bought the PD0560 Shocks for my Kyosho Landmax 1/8 rally car but I don´t know how to built them up. There were not instruction sheet in the shock bags so I have no idea which part belongs to where.
If you could send me the pages of building shocks from your EB4 instruction sheet, I would be very happy! Or at least give me some hints, please.

ZzS
zeizeis@hotmail.com

[Gas_axe]

Hi all, I am very new to Nitro and have bought a brand new EB4, which I think looks well nice,anyway this queston may bore you but please advise.I have run the engine in as the instructions and now I need to tune it up, when giving it full throttle I get a flat spot every time I try to weaken the mixture, Have I

A) run it in to weak and so the settings are ok
or
B)I need to adjust the tickover screw as well as the mixture,I have been told that these have to be balance together to get it to run correctly, What is the correct way of doing it

Secondly I see people talking about centre diffs, but I dont think my EB4 has one, just a blue gear in the centre of the car where the engine pinion meshs to. Are the UK spec EB4s differant to the USA spec cars I wonder

[Bowtie_Guy]

Hey Gas_axe, On your engine is the flatspot on the high end or is it bogging out on the low??
If its when your getting on it?? You need to richen your high end needle.
You should see blue smoke all to most of the time when running hard or getting on the throttle. Either way if it has a flat spot one of your needles are lean. As far as the eb4 goes>>>?? Do you have the s2 rtr combo?

[Gas_axe]

Yes it is a S2 rtr combo,is this a bad buy, not taking the money side into things.Over here in the UK its Kyosho or schumacher, I wanted something differant and for price its not to bad.
As for the mixture item thanks for the info, will richen up and test it and see how it goes :)

[Gas_axe]

Hi all, adjusted my mixture on my EB4 and took it for a blast.The flat spot has gone and the thing is flying, thanks for your input to sort my problem out.
As for this centre diff heres a picture of it and it looks diffless to me.

[Bowtie_Guy]

Hello again, yup, thats what you have .
Seems like i heard that you can replace it??? But if your gonna bash that would be great . Talk about all your power going to the tires!!

[Gas_axe]

Looks like there setting the British version of the EB4 up for the mud, tippical British weather :D .Do I really need a centre diff and do EB4s jump well, looking at the weight of the beast on landing on the ground are the parts tough enough to take the shock, secondly is it true that you can control the angle of the desent the car flys using the power of the engine, (eg reving the engine in the air stops the car nose diving )

[Bowtie_Guy]

No you really dontr NEED one but it sure will go. YES, you can jump them ! I have seen some insane jumps with 1/8 buggys. There chassie is thick enuff to absorb the shock. Yes, giveing it gas will bring the nose up and brakes down. If its one thing the eb4s have is air control.
lol.. Hope you like it .. I love mine.. But like anything plastic land wrong two many times and SNAP! Its gonna happen.

[Mrzoidburg]

Wow, i haven't been here for ages! Funny thing is, i didnt' even end up buying an EB4
:D
Nice to know i left my mark though.

[shmotz405]

sometimes its alot better to not have a center diff, for one you get more power to all 4 wheels, two ALOT less gears to strip ( a few of my friends stripped there center diff gears on there buggys) and 3 it cuts down weight which may not matter to some people

[Jimmy33]

Ok going hopefully to buy mine today at 4'oclock. Are there any esential bits to buy, and what shells fit on it are am I 'limited' to the standard one? Thanks

[Jimmy33]

OK got it, and here are some pictures, withy out an engine as I don't know what engine to put in it yet!

http://image1ex.villagephotos.com/1810143.jpg

[Jimmy33]

and another

http://image1ex.villagephotos.com/1810144.jpg

[StevenA]

Does anyone know where I can get one. I tried Ace Hobby and Auto Haus RC and they said they were all gone.

[ttreb4]

www.nationalrc.com

[ILiketheXXCR]

I just impulsively bought a nitro buggy off of ebay because nitro seemed fun. I know nothing about 1/8 buggies....and was just wondering if I could get a little help identifying this buggy...

http://**************/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=19168&item=3125508083&rd=1

Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.

[ILiketheXXCR]

dont know why it wont let me post it...but the item number is

Item # 3125508083

[theShark]

what rims are you guys using on the eb4? will kyosho or trc buggy rims fit?

[pistole]

Okay , I now officially have a problem.

The store had brought in a few EB4 S2 , pre-assembled cars , complete with radio installed and a pull-start 0.21 engine. Ie, just fuel it and you're go already RTR version.

The complete kit is fairly cheap BUT , compared with the assembly-required EB4 S2 Kit , the RTR version lacks the following :-

(a) no center differential. There is just a plain blue PLASTIC spur gear. Its not even the steel spur gear that our EK4s have,

(b) no aluminium shocks. They fitted the plain plastic ones that from my experience, do not last at all,

(c) no anti-roll bars. The Kit version has roll bars for both front and rear,

(d) torque rods are plastic. The Kit uses steel ones,

(e) gears in both front and rear g/boxes are apparently of a different type. The Kit's version is better made,

(f) the engine is a very basis pull start type. With the Kit , my choice of engine would be many , perhaps an TTR Evo 21 engine without pull start,

(g) lack of bearings, and

(h) low-standard , very basic, radio system.


NOW , to the nub of the matter. The price difference between the RTR version and the Kit ( equipped with the TTR Evo 21 engine and Futaba MJ radio system ) is about USD100-00.

What do you think ?

I am just a basher by heart , no racing for me. I just need a simple car that is good and durable to run, without too many problems and broken parts.

My DT10 is fragile to such an extent that I seem to break something every other time that I take it out. My EK4 is tough as nails, nothing has broken thus far.

Any opinions are welcome. Thanks.

[pistole]

Ok, I bought the EB4 S2 KIT last night , with a TTR EVO 21 engine and Futaba MJ Radio.

They're building it for me ( I just do not have the time ........ ) and it'll be a week before I can report about progress here.

Will keep you informed. Bye.

[SlingItX]

Hey guys.

I certainly hope there's still some EB4 loyalists out there. I just picked up a used EB4 (standard?) and am getting everything around in order to run it. It came equipped with the original TTR engine (Pro 21 BX-R) and an OS RG. I've only run the RG at this point, but it seems to need a pinch-job from OSRocket - maybe in the next two or three weeks. He did a great job on the TTR engine - VERY tight.

Anyway, I really like the buggy and plan on getting the recommended hop-ups (ERGAL front upper arms and mounts are first in line) following an S2 conversion. The parts for the S2 conversion are on the way from AutoHaus - Christian is absolutely great to work with btw.

My question is; once I've installed the S2 conversion kit will I be able to order parts from the EB4 S2 parts list and assume they're compatible? I'm under the impression that if the S2 conversion kit is installed - I now own an EB4 S2 buggy, yes? or no?

Thanks in advance for any help you can offer. BTW, here it is!

-SlingItX

[pistole]

Hi SLING,

Thats a nice pic .... is it of your car ?

Because she already seems to have aluminium shocks ........ if thats that case ...... you couldn't have bought the Sport (RTR) Version since only the Kit S2 and Pro carry alum. shocks UNLESS someone in the meantime upgraded them.

Does it have a center differential ?



My S2 is coming along well..... they've done the rear suspension components and drivetrain. Its a real pain to do , with all the small parts, the technician was a little bug-eyed when I went to inspect his work ...... glad I did not do it myself ...... time better well spent elsewhere I imagine.

Cheers.

[SlingItX]

... what version I have. I think there must have been some upgrades done along the way by the original owner.

I'v attached a shot of the inside if it helps determine what version it is. I'm pretty sure it's NOT the S2. Although it does have a center diff.

Any help is greatly appreciated!

-SlingItX

[SlingItX]

To answer your question, it is an actual shot of my buggy. I just got the body done this evening. Sorry for the appearance - I haven't yet doused it with denatured alcohol since its run this evening.

So, what's the easiest way to tell if I have the S2 conversion already installed?

Here's another of the front suspension.

-SlingItX

[pistole]

Here's a pic of the S2's parts.......


http://www.acehobby.com/acehobby/gfx/cars/EB4S2comvert640.jpg



What you have there is pretty close ....... alum shocks and center diff , metal torque rods .........

I imagine that you can actually do without the S2's parts anyhow and run her as it is .........

Bye.

[pistole]

Advice Needed.

Dear All,

My new EB4 is really nice to drive, fast and agile. The sheer acceleration that it has and coupled with the 4wd , awesome.

I had thought that my DT10 (after a change of engine) was fast , but this EB4 is brutal.

Just one thing , she's still 2 days old and barely broken in , but when i accelerate from standing start (nothing heroic , she's still a virgin) , the car pulls a little to one side.

I figure that :-

(a) it could be suspension / steering, or

(b) it could be drive train ( the set up of the diffs ).

What do you think ? Or , should i just let it be for a while , run her in properly (engine and drivetrain wise) and then see whether the torque-steer is still evident ?

Thanks and bye.

NB : I love the car !!

[pistole]

My new buggy.

http://pic5.picturetrail.com/VOL91/1074507/2017223/24278573.jpg

[pistole]

Another pic.

http://pic5.picturetrail.com/VOL91/1074507/2017223/24278584.jpg

[pistole]

Took her to the park for her 1st run.

This buggy is brutal. The sheer speed , acceleration and agility is astounding.

I had made a simple track , ie , around this tree , to this other tree , around that rock.... the car was fast , the braking sharp and grip was like nothing I have ever driven before.

I am a buggy convert !

[Keybaud]

Aplogies if this has been asked before, but has anyone got location for EB4 spares in the UK.

Thanks,

Simon

[SlingItX]

This is the most popular one I've seen online anyway:

http://www.three5models.co.uk/

-SlingItX

[windellmc]

How is the availability of spare parts in the US now?

[SlingItX]

Not great, but not bad either.

Contact Christian at http://www.autohausrc.com

He's the best I've dealt with so far.

-SlingItX

[pistole]

http://pic5.picturetrail.com/VOL91/1074507/2017223/25830071.jpg

[pistole]

http://pic5.picturetrail.com/VOL91/1074507/2017223/25830098.jpg

[pistole]

http://pic5.picturetrail.com/VOL91/1074507/2017223/25830087.jpg

[pistole]

http://pic5.picturetrail.com/VOL91/1074507/2017223/24405775.jpg

[SlingItX]

Sweet!

-SlingItX

[Jimmy33]

hi there been away due to exams and only here because I am taking a break from revision! :D My EB4 is currently in the cupborad withing for a new crank shaft for my thunder tiger engine but hopefully I will be driving again soon!

[NitroSafari]

Not sure if this has been asked before but whitch other 1/8 buggy shells fit the EB4 (i own an S2 PRO) If not whats the part no: for the TT shell ive lost the manual DOH!!!!!


Cheers JIM:D

[SlingItX]

Jim-

PD0800 is the Thunder Tiger's replacement body part number for the EB4 S2.

The ProLine Crowd Pleazer (Kyosho style) will also fit with some creative trimming.

-SlingItX

[Stalker911]

SlingitX - Are you still trying to figure out if you have an S2 or not?

I would say that you do since you have the grey arms on it - they are the summer (stiffer) arms. They are only for the S2 to my knowledge.

[SlingItX]

Stalker-

Nope. It's just a bastardized standard EB4. I decided since it was running well for me not to do the S2 upgrade. Instead I invested in ERGAL hop-ups - I'm almost done with them.

I'm still pretty new to the hobby so I honestly doubt whether I would notice the performance difference (maybe I would) but I'll stick with beefing it up to prevent avoidable breakages and continue to run the pi$$ out of it :)

It's been running very well and hangin' tough when I screw up, so no complaints what-so-ever. Nice buggy.

-SlingItX

[Jimmy33]

hello there finnaly I am very close to getting my EB4 S2 workign again just need to refit the diff and the engine! :D and the new black wheels, tyres and black rear wing - you have to cut your own holes in the wing :mad:

[NitroSafari]

Cheers for the info SlingItX

JIM:D

[Stalker911]

Sling - That's cool. The Ergal stuff is GREAT! I have the EB4 Limited which came with all the egral except the center diff mount, tough as nails! In a year I have only broken ONE thing, which was the front upper turnbuckle (in the upper arm)

Pretty dammed good since my buggy has done easily over 10,000 cartwheels!

[Jitters]

Hi all, I don't see too many TT buggies here or in the real world. I'm looking at a buggy to buy soon. What I have is a hyper 7 pro with the OB-1 engine. Now I'm looking at the TT EB4 pro ($$!), the Kanai 2, the Storm Pro and the Chrono. Any suggestions? Foremost, I love to build kits and I love good quality. Can't stand shortcuts or cheap sh*t. Finally, I can't seeing buying a buggy then spending more $ on hop-ups that should have come with the kit in the first place.
Any advice will be welcomed.
P.S. I see the .90 engine is coming out for my EK4, can't wait.:D

[Stalker911]

If you can easily get parts for the EB4 Pro then I would not have ANY problem suggesting it to you. If you can't get parts that easy I would say the Kyosho is ALWAYS a awesome choice!

I wasn't impressed with the Chrono and the Storm is basically a MP6 I belive?

[Jitters]

Well getting parts is always a mail-order/internet thing for me. There are NO hobby shops in my area. To get to a decent one I have to drive 2 1/2 hours to Vegas. So parts is a moot point.

However, I am averse to buying anything that everyone else buys. Seems everyone just raves about Kyosho. I like 'em. I have a few of their road cars. So that's why I'm looking at the TT.

BTW, ergal?? Is that a European equivalent of aluminum? I rarely see ergal featured and I was wondering how good it is. As always, I want to buy a kit that doesn't cry out for hop ups. Where is a good place to buy the TT buggy? Pro version, that is.:D

[Stalker911]

I think ace hobbies (ace hardware hobbies) has them at a really good price. I don't know if National RC has any left but they might.

If you need help with the links or anything PM or email me and I'll send them to you.

Other option if you want a prebuilt one you can email me and I may just sell you mine :P

[Jimmy33]

helo there - I finally got my EB4 running with the new shocks and engine. What fuel do you run for the Thunder tiger .21 engine - can I run 20% like I do on my landmax?

[SlingItX]

I've been running Trinity Monster HorsePower 20% for the past month and before that Dynamite Blue Thunder 20%, no problems. 20% will work just fine. Just remember if you go to a higher nitro content fuel it's not recommended to go back down - the performance and tune-ability will suffer.

-SlingItX

[Jimmy33]

what will I need to put one of the raod car bodies for the rally game on my EB4?

[eb4kidd12]

hey guys, i've had my eb-4 for 3 years now, and it's been a great car and all but its nothing compared to the new cars now-adays. The mp7.5 ke2 is a good buggy and comes with a lot of nice options on it. I got a mugen mbx5 and the mugen just blows it away, Thunder Tiger needs to make a new buggy soon to compete with these other ones. What do you guys think of this?

[Coconut]

Saxton;who how races for TTR;advised that TTR is working on a new buggy. From what he and Chang say on the Grid;it will be a advancement compared to the current crop of buggies. No one is sure what is meant by that but we'll see. They also are working to correct the shortcomings of ACE as a distributor.

[eb4kidd12]

that's awsome can't wait to see it, is there a conversion to make my eb-4 an ek-4?

[Stalker911]

There isn't an official kit but you can do it yourself.

I would suggest just going with aftermarket parts from MSJ or someone

I think you need:
- Rear Shock Tower
- Front tower(or just the metal 90deg. links)
- Engine
- Center spool
- Tires

That's pretty much it I belive?
check out www . midmad . com and go to the forum you will get ALL the help you need there

[NTC3Qualifier]

hello all - i have some questions relating to the EB-4

My LHS has one left over from a while ago. It is the orginal EB-4 (not S2) KIT. Due to sponsorship affiliations, i can get the kit from them for only 190.00

I am thinking of installing the Picco .26 or Orion .26 as this will just be a basher (my storm pro is my racer).

Here are some questions that i have:

1. What pipe/header is a good combo for this car? Will the THS one piece fit?

2. What are the exact differences between this and the new S2 kit?

3. Are TTG parts compatable with any other manufacture, ie - ofna, GS, kyosho, ect....?

4. what should i expect in terms of handling, but most importantly, durability compared to my Storm pro, or my buddies inferno?

====

Thanks in advance for the answers.

[GreatModels]

The main issue you'll run into is durability. The first car was very fragile and unreliable. All the new parts that the S2 or even the LE come with turns it into a totally different car. As far as exact differences about the only thing thats not changed is the diffs and shocks. You can however purchase a conversion kit from your LHS to update your for about $70.

But be careful your storm might see more and more shelf time!

:D

[NTC3Qualifier]

I busted the plastic upper hinge pin holders in a crash at the track the other night, and have been told that these are a weak point. On the factory LE version, they have been replaced by the new ergal parts. I cant seem to find these parts available for purchase anywhere. Anyone know of a link?

[SlingItX]

I recommend Christian at AutoHaus (http://www.autohausrc.com) for parts. If he doesn't have them in stock he can get them relatively quickly.

Also eHobbies has them available. You'll have to do a part number search to find them.

-SlingItX

[SlingItX]

Wow, I knew the EB-4 wasn't outrageously popular, but there's got to be something going on with these buggies.

I just ordered a Thunder Tiger EB-4 S2 Pro kit (Model No. 6222) and was wondering if it comes with the Ergal decomposable center diff?

I know I could wait until Monday or Tuesday when I get it, but I'd like to order the extra spares today and the upgraded center diff mount if necessary.

Thank you in advance.
-SlingItX

[powermax]

Hi guys, Does anyone know whether I can upgrade my EB4 Pro S2 to the twin disc brakes as the uk model only has the single disc :(

If so does anyone know where I can get the kit from?
Cheers in advance guys ;)

[SlingItX]

Yes, it's a very simple procedure.

Order part number PD0611. Pull your center diff (whole assembly), remove four button head screws, pull the original disks and replace with the new disks. Sandwich the cooling blade between the two disks, of course. replace the assembly and your ready to go.

You may want to make sure you're using an adequate servo to activate the throttle/brakes (e.g. Hitec HS-625MG or other brand equivalent). Also make sure your linkage is adjusted properly. I found that even with the single disk braking system a good servo will lock 'em up whenever I needed it to.

Try Three 5 Models UK (http://www.three5models.co.uk/) for the parts you're looking for. If this doesn't work, sorry,but I'm not in the UK.

-SlingItX

[Gped0124]

Hey guys, I have a chance to get a EB4 S2 for 270 NIB. Should I go for it?

[SlingItX]

Gped0124-

I'd go for it for that price. Sounds like a pretty good deal. Plus, building them is half the fun.

ENjoy!
-SlingItX

[2mcgrath]

since noone is answering in the ek4 fourm can any of you guys tell me where i can find a piston and sleeve for the pro 70 engine?

[az-trucker]

Hey guys and gals if u are interested in a eb4 s2 go to quantummodels.com they have the kit for 214.99 and the rtr for 329.99 . Just fig id help . thks scott

[az-trucker]

Hey guys and gals if u are interested in a eb4 s2 go to quantummodels.com they have the kit for 214.99 and the rtr for 329.99 . Just fig id help . thks scott

[az-trucker]

Hey guys if ur looking for any replacement parts or aluminum parts go to rcboyz.com and look in clearance section they have a bunch of stuff on sale thks

[Buzzo65]

I need to know if this engine requires a long or short plug. Also, is it stock shimmed to run 30%. I run Novarossi plugs #7 in my p5 and would like to stick with them.

Thanks

[SlingItX]

I've had good luck with a long plug in mine, but I've only been running 20%. I think you may be correct that the engine requires a shim for the 30% - have you tried calling Ace Hobby Distributors and asking them?

-SlingItX

[eternaldragon]

hi im new to the forum and site. i have a ttr eb-4 limited edition with an ofna 01-bp comp engine hitec ultra torque steering servo and standard throttle brake servo (but going to go to a ultra torque as well) futaba pcm1024 fp-t3pb radio red aluminum servo horns and i do have to say vary fast and vary strong buggy saying i got it run over 2 times and the only thing that broke was the fuel tank and bent the servo saver top plate and that's it and the secin time i got lucky and had the thing shot out the other side before it got run over.

and i run it on 30% cool power total synthetic fuel

[eternaldragon]

sorry for the double post didn't know how to edit the other one.
i forgot to ask if any one knows ware i can get an eb-4 manual and the spec for the buggy and some upgrade differentials like the torsion differentials for the front/rear and center and any other hop-up parts like aluminum wing mounts ext.

thanks for any help.

[eb4flys]

guys i have a problem with the thunder tiger pro .21 R engine, i can start it with the glow starter on and it idles ok, soon as i oen up it stalls, i have put in new glow plug, new fule hose, high speed is flush with carb and mixture is two and half turns out glow starter is charged and the idle speed is good, it ran great then after 2 heats of a race it just came upwith this problem i use 16% always have had, and the strange thing is my friends car did the same thing and he still has the same problem, any one can help that would be great :confused:

[make72]

i have same kind of broblem.

[pOssEssEd]

Hi guys, i recently got an EB4 S2 Pro RTR with a similar problem, the engine idled fine but stalled when i put power on, everything checked out fine i eventually tracked it down to the throttle linkage catching the shell and stopping the throttle from opening up, it was quickly adjusted and i had no further problems.

Just something for you to check. :)

[SlingItX]

I'm sure this is basic stuff gentlemen, but I have to ask...

How many gallons through the engine? Do you still have decent pinch?
Have you checked the fuel tank, backplate and carb base for air leaks?
What temps has it been running before the problems began?
What does it sound like when you hit the throttle - does it quickly cut out or bog down and cut out?
Have you torn down the engine recently?

Anything you may have changed lately could be helpful if this just happened 'out of the blue'.

-Brad

[eb4flys]

hi sting
well i put a new engine in only 3 weeks ago and ran fine until this problem came up, pitch is good and yes it bogs down, no air leaks have checked a dozen times, it has gone to amerang today, and i hope they can resolve it, temp was good by the way, my engine is the pro 21 R, i had a pro21 bx before and it was great, thunder tiger gave me a new engine as they could no longer supply the one way clutch for the pullstart.....verynice of them dont you think, another question ? does anyone know what engine mounts i need to turn the pro21R so i can use a thunder tiger starter box ? thanks for your help sting.....michael

[SlingItX]

PD0761 are the Ergal engine mounts intended for bump box engines - they are lower profile and allow the flywheel to sit closer to the slot in the chassis. Or you can use AD2509 engine mounts if they're still available - these are the standard aluminum mounts, should cost a bit less.

I'm pretty confident that the problem lies with the low end needle adjustment. 2.5 turns out is WAY too little (I should have read your post more carefully). The low-end needle should be nearly flush with the carb body - Thunder Tiger's instructions for starting carb settings are not even close to correct on the low-end needle. When you get the engine back from Amerang (?) I'm curious to see what they'll have the low-end needle set to? Just for giggles I checked my own carb (engine is a PRO-21BX-R(P)) which is the same as yours. The low-end was out 5.5 turns. If I screwed it in too much more the low speed needle would bind in the seat. At 3/4 throttle the needle is still in the seat (at 2.5 turns out) which means all that fuel from the high end can't get where it's going - causing it to 'flame out' bo over leaning it. Something to consider, but I think that's really your problem.

-SlingItX

[SlingItX]

Case in point... look closely at the needle in the seat between 2.5 turns out and 5.5 turns out. The engine is being seriously starved of fuel at 2.5 turns out relative to air intake.

[SlingItX]

And at 2.5 turns out:

[make72]

i think The low-end needle out 5.5 turns is too little at least for my tiger my tiger needle is about 7 turns open. i try 5turn open and i didn't get motor started at all.

[eb4flys]

hi guys, by the sound of it you could both be right, i spoke to amerang today and they said the TT engine instructions are just a load of ***** they will set it up later and i shall give you all a full report, thanks for the advice on starter box sting, whats the situation with the pull start is there a blanking plate or something i have to put in its place, PS anyone want to check out our local track, go to www.3araceway.com there is a nice little video clip of a couple of rounds of the track michael :rolleyes:

[eb4flys]

ok guys, got a phone call from amerang today and even though the engine is only a few weeks old they found that the front bearing was causing an air leak, so they had to put a new crank shaft on, this was the same problem with my mates car they said it is a weak spot with all TT engines even though the TT race team use the pro .21 R and they suffer the same, but i guess ill give another go and stay loyal, thanks for the help guys, off to vegas for a holiday talk to you all in a couple of weeks. :cool:

[ClimberGuy]

Does anyone know if the triple H torque rods for the EK4 will fit the EB4 S2 Pro?

Here is the link http://www.rcmodels.com/rc-hhh-ek41010.html

Thanks in advance for any help.

Man I love eye candy
Jason

[martyn]

hi lads,
just got a thunder tiger eb4 s2 and it runs like a dog.
carb settings are way out and was woundering if someone could give me the standard set up on all settings for the carb so i can then run it

cheers
martyn :eek:

[SlingItX]

Assuming you have a TTR Pro 21R engine, base settings are:
2.5 turns out from closed on the high side
6.0 - 6.5 turns out on the low side (or flush with carb body)

-SlingItX

[eternaldragon]

i have a eb-4 s1 limited edition and i was wondering if any anyone knows where i can get the ergal servo saver top plate and other ergal parts for a good price.

[SlingItX]

TeamAutoHausRC has a lot of the parts, as does eHobbies. Both are fairly reasonable on prices.

-SlingItX