HPI Micro RS-4 Forum v1.0

[blegris]

Just thinking ahead!

I'm planning on getting one of them when they come out in Augest, I think they will kick some but! lol, don't want to get in trouble.

Mista H C:\WINDOWS\Profiles\blegris\Desktop\peace.gif hehehe

[super-nitro-child]

yuperzzzzzzzzzzzz :) :p

[NTRacinGuy87]

i bet my mini-z could whoop one of those micros. i got almost every option...i need to fix it though. lol i jumped it off a 2 foot jump and got 5 feet air. it broke on the 11th time... that proves the mini-z could whoop one of those

[super-nitro-child]

yeah maybe in kid pounding durability! but thies are not ment to be thrashed! like alot of things!

now i dont think it will out perform the hpi! the hpi is faster,has 4wd, and is BIGER!

who cares if you have every option!
iv driven mini-z alot and the radio gear suxs!
with the hpi you can choos what you want to put in it(alot more versitle)


later
jon

oh and please dont come into threads and flame other cars /things! especialy things you have never seen run or ran your self! :D

[ntracinguy87]

i made a mistake, the miniz wont out perform the micro but it does have better duribility by looking at the pics of the micro.

[super-nitro-child]

maybe....we will see

:D

[Einsteindks]

I know where my tax rebate is going!

[Ras Thavas]

Yes, I plan on getting 2 of them, they look like a blast!..

[atm92484]

IMO these won't catch on like the Mini-Zs have. Ya they are cool and all but IMO they are too big. The Mini-Zs were made to run indoors and to be raced where there isn't enough room for a 1/10 track. Ya they will be cool and handle well but you'll need a larger area. My LHS just made a track for Mini-Zs. It can't be any bigger than maybe 20'x10' but its more than enough room to get as many going as the frequency will allow.

The 4wd is cool but the extra weight/drag will require a more powerful motor and more battery power.

[ 07-17-2001: Message edited by: atm92484 ]

[Einsteindks]

The Micro RS4 is about the same size as the Mini-Z, has stock front suspension, AND you can pick and choose your own radio system, AND speed control!!! I forsee an 'unlimited' class for racing!

[atm92484]

Mini-Zs are 1/28 and Micros are 1/18. Right??

[Einsteindks]

Oops, dang. You're right, my bad. The micro is more along the lines of a Bud's racer.

[TB01 2NR]

I really want one of these things but I'm gonna wait for the Skyline body. That way I'll have more cash for hop=ups when i buy it.

[PCC]

I'll be getting two so I can race my son in my garage!

[NTRacinGuy87]

I'm not flamin the micro or anything but who would spend 500+ $ on a 80 doller car thats probley going to not have a good turn out on club races. you have to buy top of the line esc becuse the cheaper ones are too big! so just food for thought. NEWAZ the micro is a sweet car but i dont think its worth the money unless they had a rtr come out or something.

[PCC]

Hmm, a Futaba MC 230 costs around $100 with a Futaba radio and 3003 servo. Total spent so far is $200. Throw in some rechargable AA batteries and a charger and you will be up and running as soon as the batteries are charged and the paint on the body is dry.

I thought about the MiniZ but decided that something less toy-like would mean that my wife won't throw it out with my son's toys. This way I can get my son involved in RC without handing him the controls of an expensive and fast nitro car, truck, or buggy.

[NTRacinGuy87]

ok im keepin where u left off:

micro rs4 $100
radio w/ servo $100
2 batteries $60
charger $70
broken parts $25
jig $12
sodder $1
deans plugs $20

grand total = $378

and i might be missing more andi dont think people will even race them in a class so after you have fun will you want to race???

[Grudly]

$60 for AA batteries, and $70 for an AA charger? jeez and I thought stuff in Canada was expensive... :eek:

[PCC]

NTRacinGuy87, obviously, you have something against the HPI Micro RS4.

I don't know where you're buying your batteries from but they cost a whole lot less than $60!

Chargers for AA batteries don't cost $70 unless you absolutely have to buy a fancy one. A jig? For what? The Micro uses battery holders for AA batteries. No soldering required. Solder and Deans plugs? For what?

Why don't you get your facts straight before posting about something that hasn't even hit the market, yet?

[Usagi]

I am still waiting for the RS-4 Micro to debut in Tokyo.
But after talking to one shop owner here, he said he had no idea when the car is to arrive. It was first said to me late July now Aug 8? Well I can`t wait!
:D ;)

[Einsteindks]

Check out hpiracing.com for a short movie of micro RS4s running. They look like they are driving at a decent clip. If they are using the base motor, and the hop-up is truly a bit faster, then they ought to be a blast. Price is projected at half an HPI Pro3, roughly $100. That's minus only the radio system and ESC, which you supply.

[Usagi]

Well The car will be release In Tokyo thursday the 9th Of Aug. For the cost of 8,400 without servo etc.....not bad. Well off to the shop thursay going to buy two! Can`t wait! Life is great!

[NTRacinGuy87]

Ok I'm just don't think its worth the money but there is freedom of speech you know I was just speaking my $.02


But hey it might be fun but it's not out so I really don't know.

[Usagi]

Thats ok, if you feel its not worth the money. It`s ok. I just try it, it might be good, if not well.....You only live once. ;)

[draggerman11]

I cant wait for this thing to come out in America! So it uses battery holders? You just pop aa's into it? awesome! Hey Usagi, you mind shipping me one here in America? :eek: :p :D Pleaaaaaasssssseeeee. Oh wait, you dont want American money.LOL. Have fun while us Americans wait for it :rolleyes:

[ 08-09-2001: Message edited by: draggerman11 ]

[Usagi]

Hi Draggerman11, Well I just got mine shipped to me from my sho@.!
Its looks neat! Can`t wait to built the car! BTW I got the SKYLINE car. ;) :D

[draggerman11]

That doesnt bug me considering I dont like imports ;) :p(or in your case domestics lol) I'm going to get the Viper, they should make a Mustang Cora SVT :eek:

[ 08-10-2001: Message edited by: draggerman11 ]

[Usagi]

Hi Draggerman11, Well I just got mine shipped to me from my sho@.!
Its looks neat! Can`t wait to built the car! BTW I got the SKYLINE car. ;) :D

[draggerman11]

That doesnt bug me considering I dont like imports ;) :p (or in your case domestics lol) I'm going to get the Viper, they should make a Mustang Cora SVT :eek:

[PCC]

The assembly instructions for this car are available on HPI's website.

It looks like the kit will come with adapters so that a Futaba ESC will work without any soldering at all. It also looks like it will come with three different sets of wheels.

I can't wait!

[Usagi]

Hi again, I am going try to post a pic of my Micro RS4 In a day or so. Going to get the Oneway unit this friday.
;)

[Usagi]

People are talking about Rally version of the car. Noway! unless there is a better rear and front shock it will botom out each time. :cool:

[rims']

how fast are they?

[Usagi]

Not that fast with this current motor. It is slow! And I running rechargable cells.

[rims']

how much duz it kozt?

[Usagi]

If you refering to " how much does it cost " well I payed 8400 yen. But in $$$$$ its about $71.00 US.

[draggerman11]

Usagi, isnt it sad when you can speak someones native language better than them, even when its your second :rolleyes: ?

[Usagi]

Thats funny :D :D :D :D :D
I have My micro rs4 pics ready to see.

[Jace2000]

Ok guys, here are some pics of the micro RS4.
I know, I know, it's not the most superb example of the car but it IS a micro RS4. :D
It's not mine but a guy's at my LHS. I wouldn't be caught dead with all that stuff stickin' out of my car like that.
An interesting thing about this dude's micro is that he's using a regular size ESC. He said that it'll fit as long as you avoid the Viper body. The reason for that is that the cockpit of the Viper is situated further towards the rear than other cars.
http://www.printroom.com/_vti_bin/ViewImage.dll?userid=jace2000&album_id=31166&image_id=3&courtesy=1
Here's the Micro RS4 next to a regualr 540 size motor.

http://www.printroom.com/_vti_bin/ViewImage.dll?userid=jace2000&album_id=31166&image_id=4&courtesy=1
http://www.printroom.com/_vti_bin/ViewImage.dll?userid=jace2000&album_id=31166&image_id=5&courtesy=1
http://www.printroom.com/_vti_bin/ViewImage.dll?userid=jace2000&album_id=31166&image_id=6&courtesy=1
If anyone wants some more pics just let me know. We've got tons of these at our LHS.

[ 08-28-2001: Message edited by: Jace2000 ]

[Jace2000]

One more thing...
The Micro RS4 is being sold for about U$97 over here. The kit includes three types of wheel designs (5 spoke, 6 spoke, BBS type) and a body (Viper, BMW M3, Skyline).
The motor included in the kit is something like 56 turns. HPI's gonna soon release a 45 or 46 turn motor soon. A front one-way is also on it's way.
The kit also came with three pinion gears. I think they were 9, 11, 13.
The Micro RS4 handles extremely well. I was surprised at how much it felt like a real RC car. You'll feel right at home if you drive an electric touring car. MiniZ just can't be compared. Our local track is gonna start a Micro RS4 race next month where the class divided into two. The modified motor class and stock. Our LHS has already sold over 40 of these machines and some people are already modifying their own motors cause they can't wait for the optional one.
I dunno about the other countries but we're considering the MiniZ officially dead because the Micro is catching on so fast. :D
Along with organized races, the MiniZ just don't have a chance.

[Usagi]

$97 us? wow that high! its its about $70.00!
:o

[Usagi]

sorry did doubled posted :D

[ 08-29-2001: Message edited by: Usagi ]

[Usagi]

Jace, I living In tokyo here, and your coment abot the Mini-z being dead is realy a joke! Here In tokyo the mini-z has many tracks and drivers. also for micro, its been out for about say 2 1.2 weeks. And they shops still have many sitting corners of the shops. They are sell, but not at the rate as the Mini-z did. Well this is tokyo not korea. different place different likes.

;)

[Jace2000]

Usagi, I've heard that the Z is quite widely spread in Japan & HK. The case is different here. Although quite a large number of Zs were sold most are just sitting at homes because no one is really racing them.
I was refering to Korea.. :)
The case should be different for Japan.

[Usagi]

Thats correct, Japan its really popular! trackand everything!. But prices here are a lot cheaper.

[losi]

How fast will they go. How much will thet cost. Are the better the the Mini Z :rolleyes:

[PCC]

http://images.imageevent.com/pcheuk/rc//Micro.jpg

I got mines from RC Tech in Daly City, CA, (next door to San Francisco) yesterday!

I had it built in two hours for the basic chassis (did it in the store!) and another hour to fit the ESC and servo. The supplied adapters makes wiring really easy. I was tearing up the garage last night!

I will be changing this car to Deans plugs afterall but that's because I want to clean up the excess wiring length.

[Usagi]

In my Mind No, thats because The mini-z is a different scale. The mini-z is FAST! the Micro rs4 is slow based on scale. Its fun to run the micro but you cannot really run the thing in a house. The mini-z you can. Both have their good points but the problem too many people are thinking or conparing it to a mini-z. I own both and they both have their own places to run, but saying the micro is better is just not comparing the two correctly. ;)

[ 09-02-2001: Message edited by: Usagi ]

[ProjectTwin]

I would post pics here, but the forum won't allow parentheses in html for some odd reason. Here (http://pub13.ezboard.com/fmaxximumtraxxasfrm52.showMessage?topicID=563.topi c)is a link to my Viper Micro.

Jason

[Jason C]

A question to those who have a Micro: How sticky are the kit tires? I want to get one of these to run at my local carpet track. Also, is there any other company (like Tamiya) that makes motors that would fit the car? Is it 130 or 180 size? I keep hearing about these 2 sizes and even a 380 size as an optional motor. I'm getting really confused :confused: .

[other_cents]

I have a micro RS4 and raced today at the LHS. I am running 4.8v system and the other guy was running a 6.0v system. He broke his front end hitting one of the barriers. Since there are not parts out yet he is going to try to glue it back on. Oh were were running these cars in the parking lot on the 1/10 scale track.

Some notes to building the car.

1) the front diff spring pull the spring to be longer. This will make the front diff feal better.

2) if your using a full size servo double side tape both the top and bottom of the servo. This will keep it from popping loose.

3) Be carefull when glueing the front flywheel. If you don't glue it properly it will rub and cause the car to run slower.

These are nice and fast cars depending on your setup. 6.0v makes a big difference, but the other guy was having problems with the car flipping during the turns and on the 1/10 scale track I was able to take the turns full throttle with the 4.8v system. When the modified motors come out the HPI site says it requires a 6.0v system.

[InspGadgt]

Ok guys (especially NTGuy) Let's do this comparison right...first off, I have a Micro and ran it stock with 4 AA batteries against modified Mini Z's and while the battery was good and fresh it was slightly faster then the Mini Z's. When I threw in a 5 cell rechargable pack there was no contest. The Micro was SIGNIFICANTLY faster. As for durability...Fiberglass chassis and a foam bumper is more durable then a plastic chassis any day! My friends are constantly breaking the mirrors off the Mini Z as well as other parts. Now...cost...

Mini Z: $160ish running Alkaline batteries
Micro: $100 chassis + $100 for radio running Alkaline batteries.

So only about a $40 difference for a car that's faster and more durable plus 4wd.

Mini Z ball diff: $60
Micro ball diff + front 1 way: $60 (approximately)

Hello...option parts are cheaper for the Micro

At the Hobby shop where I help out at once in awhile the Mini Z craze has died out and the cars are sitting on the shelves. If we had more Micros in we would have sold close to 20 or so this past weekend alone.

Hope this cleared up a few things :)

[Other_cents]

InspGadgt your right. My LHS sold all 10 of them in 1 hour from the time they put them on the shelf. I was lucky enought to put one on layaway or I would be waiting another week or more for mine.

[Odie]

Ok, anyone have a problem with the pins that hold the front a-arms in coming loose? Mine seems to work its way loose and I am about to CA the other end on perminately! Our local track is going to have a class of these this winter.

does anyone know when the $25 Airtronics speedo will be out? Will it handle a 6v pack? I refuse to buy a new speedo for this car when the Airtronics one is supposed to be out any day. According to tower, they are to arrive "late sept."

I edited the above pic in order to make it easier to see....

Jody

[Other_cents]

About the pins you probably do not want to glue them in because if you need to get to the front diff you will have a hard time getting the pins out. One of the things you can try is pushing the pin all the way to the last part of the arm and then using tissue paper in the last section to make a tight fit. I use to do that when trying to keep tamiya Mini 4wd car pins in.

The other trick is to either buff or dent the pin so it makes a tighter fit. You can do this by putting groves in the end of the pins by using wire cutters. This might not be any better than using glue because if you put groves into the pins you will make the holes bigger.

The only other thing I can think of doing if finding some pins that use e-clips that fit in those holes. Some car has to have something that size.

[PCC]

Originally posted by Odie
I edited the above pic in order to make it easier to see....

Jody

Dude! That's my car!

I guess you can see that my scanner has a twitch in it.

I've done a few things to the car since I scanned it that day: Deans Ultra plugs throughout, Novak AM receiver, Futaba MC230 ESC, Hitec 85BB+ servo, Cut the rear chassis to make the rear trailing arms longer, smoothed out the front diff, etc. I have a bunch of NiMH AA batteries that I want to make a few packs out of and I have a mod motor on order for it. I'm also going to do a low-center-of-gravity conversion to it as soon as I can come up with a sheet of graphite.

[Raeland]

Any thoughts on the new Team Orion ESC.

I'm not sure if I should get another V6r or wait for the Team Orion.

[Other_cents]

I have been using a LRP Quantum Sport. It is very small and light, but it is around $80. I just move that ESC over to my TC3 (that I just baught) so I was going to get an LRP IPC Sport since it is half as much as the Quantum Sport. The rating on both of those are about the same except for the resistance. I would recommend the Quantum Sport for anyone that is wanting a ESC for the Micro. They are small and very light.

I was also thinking about getting a small servo and then moving my receiver down to the bottom deck ontop of the servo. That would put everything except for the speed control under the deck. Let me know if anyone has done this, or tried this on their car? I am unsure if it will actually fit there.

[the_yawn]

Usagi, do you know any shops in tokyo where they sell the micro? Because I am currently living in tokyo. And if so, are the instructions in english?

[Einsteindks]

I ran my micro at an indoor skate park the other day (converted warehouse space). It was a total blast!! Performance wasn't all that bad, even with a 4.8v NiMH pack in the car. The 5' high table top was the best. I slowed as I got near the top and the car just gently flopped onto the table. Drove around, and ssslloooowwwlllyy went over the edge, down the ramp. If I only had 4 lithium AA batteries, I'd a trully kicked some butt! Thanks to the cool bunch at Little Devil for a great opportunity!

[Usagi]

yarn, where are you in tokyo?????????????? pm me and let me know!

[Other_cents]

If you cant find a kit with the instructions in english then you can go to the HPI website and download an english copy. If you have problems with the HPI website (like everyone else) I have a PowerPoint file with the instructions in it. If you can not read a PowerPoint file I will see about getting it converted into a PDF.

[NMT_RACER_BOY]

Originally posted by Jace2000
Usagi, I've heard that the Z is quite widely spread in Japan & HK. The case is different here. Although quite a large number of Zs were sold most are just sitting at homes because no one is really racing them.
I was refering to Korea.. :)
The case should be different for Japan.

Are you a korean?

[tc3racer5]

how much

[Usagi]

no, I am american...........

[Other_cents]

AMB Lap Transponder

I just got a notice that we are going to race the RS4 Micro at a Mall in Denver, CO, but they are going to be using a AMB Lap Counting system and I need to figure out how large and how heavy those Transponders are. I have never used one of these before so it will be a new experience for me.

If anyone has used one on a Micro let me know. I think I am going to try to build a small block about the size and weight of a Transponder so I can practice with it.

[evilGearhead]

I just bought mine off ebay today,
pre-assembled, painted skyline w/ front 1-way, graphite chassis&upper deck for $110
the drawback is, that i have to wait 2 weeks for shipping from hongkong.

[Usagi]

ebay the guy that from Honk hong......... 110.00 + Shipping! This guy is buying the micros for 8000 yen in tokyo or$ 71.00 then reselling to people for god god amounts of money! a few options but still this guy is greedy.

[jlseay]

1. What types of battery is being used with the Micro RS4. I found some Energizer 1200 mAh AA Ni-MH cells 1.2 volts at a local store and am wondering how well if at all would they work.

2. How should I care for the Ni-MH cells if I do get them? Do I discharge them like I would a regular Sub-C pack or is there another more prefered method?

3. Where can hopups for the car be had? HPI's site has been down for what seems like day's? Does anyone know of a reseller that is currently selling aftermarket parts from any vendor for the Micro RS4?

[Other_cents]

jlseay,

Go to this site for all your battery information: http://thomas-distributing.com/ They have everything including special chargers and information on how to care for AA NiMH batteries. You can also get the AA batteries with the tabs on them and build the pack. If you do this then you can use a peak charger as long as it charges at .5A.

I usually discharge mine by running them out. You don't really need to discharge NiMH batteries. They were made to be able to be recharged at any time unlike NiCD batteries.

I have been seeing alot of hopups from the Towerhobbies site, but everyday is different. I think they sold out of all their cars which means there is a high demand for these little things. I also believe that most racers who are going to get into the micro sport are purchasing multiple cars which is making it hard to find things. Tower still had one way diffs and other stuff the last time I looked, but no engines yet. All the hopups were supposed to come out early this month. I think my LHS has them.

Usagi,

Your in tokyo right or you can take the train over? If you can find the cars maybe you can help those people looking to purchase those cars for real cheap? :D :D

[Einsteindks]

1. Those Energizer batteries should work fine. The higher mAh number means longer run time. Only drawback in 1.2 volt cells is that they will run the motor at a slightly slower speed than 1.5 volt alkaline batteries.

2. NiMH batteries don't have the 'memory' problem of NiCds. You can charge them up whenever you want and they don't have to be discharged all the way down before the next recharge. They require a longer charge time due to the higher mAh capacity. As for the rate of charge, I'm not entirely sure if they can tolerate a higher rate than what is normally used for NiCds.

3. HPI has a few hop-ups now (metal front u-joint shafts, front one-way dif, 'hotter' motor) with a prommise of more to come in the near future. No one else has hop-ups for now, the Micro RS4 is still quite new on the market.

[Other_cents]

Oh forgot to mention about the Energizer Photo-Cell Lithium batteries (not to be confused with the Titanium also made by Energizer). These are one time use batteries, and I have not had a chance to test them with the micro yet, but I used them all the time when racing the Tamiya Mini 4wd 1/24 scale cars. These batteries output at about 1.7v and are lighter than any other battery around. They cost about $10 for a four pack, but if you need that extra boost for a race then it might be a good idea to get them (I would only recommend using them in the mains since they cost so much).

So the stats are 1.7v initial boost and 1.5v during the run dropping down to 1.2v by about mid run. Alkalines boost at 1.5v and drop to 1.2v during the run. Mid run Alkalines can be as low as 1.0v or less. NiMH boost and run at 1.2v and drop to 1.1v by mid run. NiCD boost and run at 1.25v and drop to 1.1v by mid run. (Note all this info comes from Tamiya Mini 4wd cars and could perform differently with the Micro.)

When we start racing the Micros I am going to purchase a set of photo cells and see how they do compared to the rest of the stock drivers. I would not recommend using these with any modified motor because they would drain to quick. Also if you have not already taken the time to purchase lighter equipment (IE. micro servo, smaller receiver, smaller ESC) then I would start there before messing with these photo cells.

[the_yawn]

Usagi You have a PM

[Jason C]

I heard we can use this motor for the Micro. Will it fit the motor mount screw holes? Thanks.
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?Q=1&I=LXW912&P=7

[aconsola]

That motor's holes line up perfectly with the 180 in the micro.
some folks are already using it, and kyosho's metal pinion gear set from their motorcycles.
check out http://pub94.ezboard.com/bmymicro for more

-Anthony

[Jason C]

Many thanks, aconsola :) .

[evilGearhead]

usagi, i know that the guy only paid 70$ for it in the first place, but the cheapest i can get it for here in the states is 110$, plus im getting a front 1-way, graphite chassis, and graphite upper deck, and that stuff adds up to about another $55, so hes making money, and im saving money. everybody wins

[Usagi]

making money he sure is doing..

I saw the new hotbodies new upper and lower decks at the show here yesterday. Those i have to get.

[T/Losi]

Does the RS4 Micro come with a motor?
Do the Orion Micro motors come with leads?
http://www.team-orion.ch/news/images/micro_modified_motor.jpg

[Other_cents]

Yes the Micro comes with a motor.

No I don't believe the Orion mod will come with leads, but we are unsure yet since that motor has not been shipped.

[T/Losi]

Does the included motor come with leads?
Are the leads the same as the 1/10 scale motors?

[Usagi]

GPM parts for the Mircors4 anyone using them?!:confused:

[Other_cents]

I have seen them on Ebay.

[Usagi]

I seen other makers micro chassy here in japan, wanted to see these parts.

[pitstain]

hey, i'm going to have a hundred bucks in my visa buxx card by the end of the month, and might be thinking about speding it on rc since there's nothing else i want, i have a miniz but it jsut doesn't cut it, it never runs striaght, and twitches occur often, anyways, i have 50 bucks in my wallet now(that makes it 150 by the end of month, and i want to know what's a good cheap esc for 50 bucks, thanks alot! (btw, i'm plannign to sell my miniz, the hop ups i bought form hong kong are worth way more than the car!, so if anybody wants it) thanks in advance

[pitstain]

o yea, the micro is better to jump, the mini is way fragile(small electronics and wires snaps easily)

[Usagi]

juming a mini-z? god my sisters kid did that a mini-z and it needed option parts right after. But after that it jumped great! I also bought him a mircors4 to jump too.

[pitstain]

i also did some mods to my body, since the body will not withstand a 2-3 feet fall right into the roof, i took the windows out, and super glued little bars(cut paper clips) and glued them on, now it looks like a cage and it;s bullet proof! 1/4 of the body now white from all the scratches, heeh

[BoozzZ]

Hey, anyone got a nice comparison pic of the Micro next to the Mini-Z? I would really like to see how 1/18th scale compares to 1/24 in size.

Thanks! Daan

[pitstain]

in maybe two weeks i'll have the micro, than i like drag race them to see who's better, i'll take some pics

[winning edge designs]

I have a skyline Micro RS4,pics are on our website....www.jconcepts.net.

I'm wondering who makes bodies for these cars,besides the HPI ones on the market?..............Any URL's?....Jim

[Usagi]

THe Mini-z parts are better made.

[winning edge designs]

I've seen the Mini-Z.......looks like a tyco quality car. I bought the Micro Rs-4 rather then just looking at it. I think the HPI has much better quality,not to mention I can run it on my M8,my standard speedo's and servo's,plus it's 4wd,so traction isn't such a problem.........The Mini RS4 will blow away the kyosho in sales......No contest IMO,Jim

[Usagi]

Originally posted by winning edge designs
I've seen the Mini-Z.......looks like a tyco quality car. I bought the Micro Rs-4 rather then just looking at it. I think the HPI has much better quality,not to mention I can run it on my M8,my standard speedo's and servo's,plus it's 4wd,so traction isn't such a problem.........The Mini RS4 will blow away the kyosho in sales......No contest IMO,Jim

This is the crazy post to date. You don`t compare these two car BECAUSE theuy are DIFFERENT SCALES! I hate to infor you but HPI is worse quility. At least the name of the Mini-Z really fits unlike the micro rs4.

This is a no brainerjavascript:smilie(':p')
stick out tongue

[winning edge designs]

Usagi
Member

Registered: 08-02-2001
Location: Tokyo, Japan
Posts: 343
THe Mini-z parts are better made.



I thought ,"there is no compare these two cars"?.................One more time,IMO(in MY Opinion),I looked at a mini-z,decided it was too cheap looking for the $180 U.S dollars.
But once I saw the HPI micro RS4,I bought one!.....:),Jim:cool:

[Usagi]

Originally posted by winning edge designs
Usagi
Member

Registered: 08-02-2001
Location: Tokyo, Japan
Posts: 343
THe Mini-z parts are better made.



I thought ,"there is no compare these two cars"?.................One more time,IMO(in MY Opinion),I looked at a mini-z,decided it was too cheap looking for the $180 U.S dollars.
But once I saw the HPI micro RS4,I bought one!.....:),Jim:cool:

I said the parts are better made yes whats the problem with that. I own both and yes the part are better on the mini-z.

Whats the point of this?

[winning edge designs]

"Whats the point of this?"

That's what I keep wondering,the parts are better quality on the Micro RS4 to me and i've seen both as well.

Whats the point of posting that the mini's parts are better quality on a micro RS4 thread?.................:D :D :D ,Jim

[Usagi]

Someone in there some where did not read the post correctly:confused: ANd lost the flow of it.

[Usagi]

Whats this? Hot Bodies is going to sell a reciver 4Ch/72Mhz (HB1001) 6,800 yen and speed control 3,800(HB1501) ( 8 a) and (15A) (HB1502) for 4,300 yen? and servo for (HB1503) 3800 yen designed just for the micro rs4? What is the world?:)

[kkd]

Hey all.... I just ordered 2 RS4 Micros'.... The LHS has them (but $100 Canadian over the mail order price EACH).....

These should be a blast this winter!!!!! Two buddies have these as well and they're insanely fun.....

As for the mini z.... Well, if you go to the forum for them Usagi, you'll note that every two or three posts is someone complaining about "I drove into a table leg and it stopped working" etc etc....

Just proves which car is more durable.....

Thats why I ordered 2, one for me and one for my son (gotta have some competition....LOL....

Sees ya..

[Usagi]

I know about the mini-z problem what I did wa replace the servo gears with heavey duty ones. Now I don`t have a problem. Those stock gears are really bad.:o

[Usagi]

Again for the 100 time, you can`t compare the micro and the MINI-Z 5 they are two different scales of cars!
I been running mini-z since dec of 1999( when they where first released) I seen almost every problem. I know the mini-z inside and out. ANd the mirco rs4 is not can not be compared to the mini-z!:p

[winning edge designs]

It was a real trip biulding the Micro RS4. Between the Universal drive axles and sealed, grease filled front gear diff,as well as the rear gear diff,aluminum motor plate,with adjustable gear mesh,full suspension,4wd.......It took me 3 hours to biuld the little sucker,haha!

I was driving it around Jason Ruona's Garage the other day and he was amazed at how well it handled in a 4w drift. He took the wheel and had it drifting all the way across the garage in a 10 foot circle!...............He is getting one,as well as a few other racers in the area,so we can race em in the garage. Don't even have to clean off the dust to run them!!!

Got a 6 cell and mod motor on the way,as well as a Orion speed control...............SWEEET!......:),Jim

[DrDiff]

Overheard at the Chicago show near the trinity booth...
I can't believe we [TRINITY] did not see it [Micro RS4] coming on the horizon. We will get in on the game and have products for the Micro.

Also overheard was this...
The HPI Micro RS4 is the next big thing. It will be bigger than the latest big thing, the T/E maxx.


The car is 100% PURE FUN. This is because the car Actually works. It does not slip slide around like a Mini Z! At the first race for micro's all three drivers smiled and actually laughed on the drivers stand.

When was the last time you saw people laugh or smile on the drivers stand. Especially the folks like the Team drivers from Trinity, Losi, Associated, Yokomo or even HPI's team driver and World Sedan Champ Hara laugh or smile when driving their car on the track?

Some Nay Sayers complain about the lack of speed. I challenge them to drive one on a 5 foot lane track that has an outside dimensions of say 20 by 40 foot. If the track is appropriately sized for these 1/18 scale cars they are BLINDINGLY fast. But to run them on a 1/10 scale track makes the cars look slow.

[Usagi]

You lost me:confused:

[teamted2]

does the orion mod motor speed it up alot?

[Usagi]

From what the guy at the tokyo show told me yes.

[bullfrog]

Hey guys im getting a micro ( usagi already knows) bu i was wondering .... if i want to charge the optonial batt. what kinda charger do i use? can u guy reccomend one?O can i use a timed charger with adjustable current? thanks!

[teamted2]

YYEESSS!!! I am getting a micro for x-mas!!!!! I dont know which body to get though. I know that the bmw and gtr bodies look the best, but i heard that the viper body performs the best. It the difference big?? Thanks. Also, where is the cheapest place to get a micro? What esc and steering servo do you recomend? Is an AM radio good enough? THANKS ALOT!!

Teddy :D :D :D

[winning edge designs]

As far as speed with the Orion equipment,the cars at our last superior hobbies parking lot race were about as fast as a stock sedan!
They ran modified motors and 6 cells and all those drivers were smiling as well!!!

I have the skyline body kit,I can't see how there could be a difference in handling from body to body,but there might be. I do know the viper body is the most cramped one?....No room for decent size electronics under the low hood.

I'm using an Atom(Orion on the way though) speedo,XXL reciever,and mini 12th scale size servo,although a std size one fits..........The only hop-ups more i'd like are a rear ball diff and other bodies just to throw around some different looks,heh heh...............Jim

[Usagi]

wait for the team orion speed control if you don`t have one yet. ANd Hotbodies is releasing a rec servo and 2 speed controls for Micro RS4. wait and some of the real goodies well be MUCH BETTER.:)

[InspGadgt]

Has anyone tried out the GPM graphite chassis's yet? Would like some feed back on them.

[Usagi]

hi guy:)

I see them here, they are so cheap. But my friends are running them and they seem to be working great. Some people are saying the rear is too weak. But its stronger then it looks.

[InspGadgt]

I noticed there are 2 different rear suspension styles on the GPM chassis...a modified version of the stock chassis and one with a central flex point much like the Mini Z. Which seems to have the best flex? The stock rear suspension is just too stiff to do any good.

[Usagi]

some like the flexy type of rear, but the stock is mustly used here.
Good Luck:)

[InspGadgt]

well personally I'd like it very flexy then if I need to take some out I can do that with spring rate or spring pre-load. Just gives the car that much more tuneability

[winning edge designs]

I don't think you'll want to go softer on the chassis,in fact my car seems to have a little puch under some conditions. A looser rear chassis would help wieght transfer to the rear and add rear traction!..........If your track is very loose,or bumpy,maybe you would want to try it out?.........Jim

[Usagi]

It all depends on your style of driving. Flex in the rear is not bad for these cars, but watch out of the HOW MUCH:D Other wise go with the other style. I going with what others are doing.

[andy51289]

hey guys I'm ordering a micro with a team orion speed control. any assembly tips?

[Usagi]

I want one of those team orion speed controls, going to get one for mine next week. Hae fun with it;) :p :cool: :)

[andy51289]

no actually I ordred a LRP F1 Reverse. I didn't want to wait for an orion speed control.

[winning edge designs]

Andy,
The Orion speedo comes with all the Micro connectors in place,ready to go. It's a great deal in a electronic speedo with reverse!

The car goes together very well. Be patient with the front differential. There are a surprisingly large amount of parts in it and it's o-ring sealed and heavily greased. Different greases will change handling,but only a thick grease is included. Tghere is also an available one-way,but I have yet to be able to get one to try. The Orion mod motor and 6 cell pack really make the car WAY faster!...........Have fun,the car is a blast if you get a couple friends together....Jim

[andy51289]

does the micro kit come with the connnectors?

[winning edge designs]

Andy,yes,the Micro comes with smaller then usual connectors for both motor and battery.Each is different so polarity can't be mixed up. The Orion control comes with matching connectors,and as far as I know it'll be the only one that does,so far!.......Jim

[Usagi]

its built for hte micro thats why it comes with the connectors, but LRP (YUCK) will have them soon, so will KO. I Talked with the tech guy at the HPI booth abpout these sdeed controls he said that radio plugs are JR type and will fit all system radios. He was nice.

[Torqer]

Ok, I just built mine and finished all the little extras you need to do ( double taping the servo, spreading the front diff spring,etc) man what a blast! I am running stock motor, Orion 6.0 NiMH pack, LRP Runner and a HiTech reciever (both from my TC3 RTR) . This thing is going to be a RIOT to race. It is also very durable. I have ran it full speed into kitchen counters to test the ruggedness. Head on, sliding sideways, and full reverse. Not a broken part yet. And someone was asking about the traction on the tires, I can traction roll this thing in the street, on my living room carpet or the linoleum floor in my kitchen. The tires are STICKY! I think you can kiss the Mini Z goodbye. This thing has a feel very much like my TC3 that I race 1/10 with. Just a little smaller. I am going to go get the Orion Mod tommorrow and see what that does. It is well worth the money, especially if you already have electronics and a radio.

[Usagi]

The mini-z and this micro are two different scales. You can`t compare them fairly. I own both with each having a place for them to be run.

[andy51289]

Ok guys my micro SHOULD come either today or on Monday. I ordred a Nissan Skyline. I've already recieved a Futaba MC230CR. I've run the speed control on an EZ Start motor that I found and it works great! LOL this is actually my first electric car! I thought I'd never buy a car that ran of flashlight batteries!

[Usagi]

I using the 230CR Futaba, I like it I even bought one for my sisters kids Micro. CHeap and great!

[XXXER]

Hey guys, I guess I should start posting here, since I have a Micro, and have had one for roughly a Month.

What is this? No pictures of your bodies? I am posting one of mine. In case you all were wondering, the HPI Mod motor is on backorder, so if your hobby shop does not have them in stock, be prepared to wait! Or, just buy the team Orion one. Also, forget Trinity; Orion has a PAGE full of machined aluminum for they Micro, that is yet to be released. Also, for those of you who are tired of doing a 180, and then having the car totally bog down, instead of light up the tires, Orion is also coming out with a 300 size motor, that is rated at 30,000(that is no mistake on the "0"s) RPM's. It goes for 50 bucks, and includes a new motor plate.

All I can say is, with my resources, this car is going to go crazy with the optional parts.

-Steve

And, for your veiwing pleasure...

[Usagi]

ok, I going to post mine pic xxxer.:)

[winning edge designs]

Here's a pic of mine,sporting my race colors from my larger scale cars.file:///C:/My%20Documents/Image%20Expert%20Images/October%2003,%202001/Image002.jpg

[Usagi]

where?:confused:

[xxtcrgp]

I bought the Airtronics ES-01 esc and its awsome! its so small and the wires are tiny and there set up for the micro wires, if you want a new esc buy this one its only 24.99 at towerhobbies.com but it dont have a brake but you dont even notice its gone, it is a VERY good esc:cool:

edit: if you have any questions about micros our es-01 please personal message me do not reply on here because im always on the yourmicro forum so it will take me for ever to respond

[Usagi]

I wish those ES01 were that cheap here. we pay around 4000 yen or $33.00.:(

[JimmyMac]

I just got a Micro today!!!! Yipee!!!! :D Now I can build it up tomorrow/tonight. I bought the C5 Corvette. Can't wait to try it out. They didn't have the one-ways for it. So I couldn't get that. Hmmmm. Anyways, I'll post a pic once I'm finished with it... L8R

[speedydave]

*I* picked a micro up at the LHS today(I say *I* because I basically pointed and told my dad thats what i want for xmas). I got the Viper body. I can't wait til i can build and drive it!!! I'll have more to say after the 25th when i can actually open it, but for now all I have to say is...I can't wait!!:)

[pro2superroosterman]

Hey kilruf your all over these forums. I think i may get a micro in january, and then if they race in chapel hill I'll have something to do this winter. Are you planning to race in chapel hill with your micro. I hope they follow through with the idea I think it would be awesome. later

[JimmyMac]

Hey Pro, I emailed Chris about the Micro races. He told me that there is very little interest or I should say... response to the idea. He only knows of 3 people that want to (besides me). Plus they are having a hard time getting them at the shop. So he doubts that they will race this winter in the mall. Unless of course more people email saying they want to. I bought mine when I was up in VA at Debbies.

I finish building it today. I took my time and followed some tips from all 3 magazines (RCCA, Xtreme, R/C Car.) So I think I have it built right. I used an old ESC from like the 80's. It's on old Futaba MC10. I don't know if it's doin it's job though. Does anyone experience this: when you are goin forward, the steering response slows down until you let off. Kinda like the motor/ESC is sucking up all the juice until you let off. I might try and hook up a newer ESC (G10 or V12xc) and see how that fairs. I dunno. But does anyone else experience this?? It's a fun car though. Chasing the cats with it! hehe...

Jimmy Mac

[xxtcrgp]

probably cause all the wait is getting transfered back so when you let off it goes forward and more traction is set to the front wheels

[kkd]

Hey all.. I've got 2 of them (skyline and Bmw) and I put the Futaba 230 receivers in them. They are a hoot.....

What receiver pack are you all running (if any).????

Thanks...

[Usagi]

I still waiting Jan atleast for the release of the orion speed controls. wait...wait..wait..........................:rolley es:

[JimmyMac]

It was the batteries. There were bad. Tossed in a set of fully charged AA NiMh and zoom! It was off! So that works now. Stuck a quick mini servo in today. Raced around on a homemade track. Stripped the servo! Ordered some metal gears for it hehe. It's a fun little car. I ordered the Ofna 7.2v brick pack for it as well. Hehe, gonna be a fast car! I might need those universals huh?!! Gotta wait for the server to get back up so I can post a pick.... L8R

Jimmy Mac

[AlterEgo]

Any of you guys running the Speed 300 mod in your micro yet?

I am with 6 cells and I can say this brings the Micro to a whole new level, super quick.
I highly recomend it.
:)
MrZ

[xxtcrgp]

im running hpi mod with 6 still fast

[winning edge designs]

Have any of you guys had problems traction rolling? I have mine going so fast that on high bite it traction rolls,turning the dual rate Waaaaayyyyyy down helpes,but what other trickls are you guys doing?........Jim

[Raeland]

Try replacing your front springs with pieces of fuel tubing. I have no idea on your set-up, but it may help you.

[winning edge designs]

I'm trying not to stiffen the ride too much.Looking for ways to lower the CG or roll centers instead....Jim

[Raeland]

What's your set-up? How are the batteries mounted on the chassis? How many cells and what type "AA" "2/3A" or other?

[JimmyMac]

Well I received my batteries today (Thursday) that I ordered Tuesday. Pretty good don't ya think! Priority mail from CA to NC. Anyways, the battery is small! 6 cell 7.2v. Pretty quick! Now I just need my metal gears for my HS-81 servo and I'm set for now. Anyways, let me head out. L8R

Jimmy Mac

[winning edge designs]

Raeland,kit set-up,kit tires,etc. 5 cell Orion packs with Orion Mod motor and an Atom speedo(Orion soon though). I'm looking for ways to lower the upper deck,like a kit. Also other little tricks some may have found for a lower CG,etc. I'm not going to buy shocks,one-ways,titanium,etc. That will suck the fun out of a car intended for fun,IMO....Jim

[RS4rally1124]

HAs anyone converted the micrors4 yet
At my local track in Michigan we don't only have organized races but there are different classes
we have about three guys that run in every class
the classes are drag, front whell drive, stock, modified, and front wheel drag
i think that is a sign these things have caught on

[Big Wig]

Hi folks!

I am getting a micro for X-Mas and I NEED an ESC. I can't wait for the Orion or the LRP micro... I need something right away.

I was going to order the futaba 230cr today but Tower doesn't have any. Does anyone know where I could get one of these right away?

thanks in advance!
jay

[T/Losi]

Xtreme R/C has just add a review on it on their web site. I just thought you people might won't to check it out.
http://www.rc411.com
http://www.rc411.com/photos/microRS4/closing.jpg

[JimmyMac]

You could always get the LRP Quantum Sport. It's tiny. Here's my pic. It's also posted under another forum on here.

[Usagi]

Originally posted by Big Wig
Hi folks!

I am getting a micro for X-Mas and I NEED an ESC. I can't wait for the Orion or the LRP micro... I need something right away.

I was going to order the futaba 230cr today but Tower doesn't have any. Does anyone know where I could get one of these right away?

thanks in advance!
jay
Those futaba 230 are great. I own one mine. if you can wait for the orion If they ever showup.

[Tiggs1]

Does anyone know what other body styles HPI is considering to port over to the Micro line? The wife is getting me the Porche for Christmas....hopefully :) I would really like to see a Ferrari or Lamborghini body...

[Usagi]

Originally posted by Tiggs1
Does anyone know what other body styles HPI is considering to port over to the Micro line? The wife is getting me the Porche for Christmas....hopefully :) I would really like to see a Ferrari or Lamborghini body...
Don`t lok for a ferrari body from HPI, they don`t have the right to use their name.

[Jason C]

Originally posted by winning edge designs
I'm trying not to stiffen the ride too much.Looking for ways to lower the CG or roll centers instead....Jim

You can actually lower the main chassis by adding a small shim or washer between the chassis plate and the 9 mounting points. For example: rather than bolting the rear upper deck posts directly to the lower chassis, add a 1-2 mm thick washer between the post and chassis to actually lower the chassis plate by 1-2mm. Losi has an assorted washer set (part# A6350). Use 9 of the smallest washers to lower the chassis by about 1 mm. This also gives the belt some extra clearance so it won't rub as much on the chassis.
I suggest you only do this mod if you run on carpet or any other very smoothsurface as it reduces your ground clearance.

[winning edge designs]

Here's my picture of my Mini RS-4.http://www.jconcepts.net/Gallery/1596/images/Jimrs4-2.jpg

[Tiggs1]

It seems like everybody is opting for the Nissan Skyline. Very nice paintjobs! Bummer about the Ferrari deal...oh well, I can settle for a Lamborghini :D

[Jason C]

Hey, Tiggs.

How's your Micro? Once this week is over (finals week for us University students) I'l be heading over to Twin City Hobby & Raceway with my Micro and TC3. Why don't you stop by some time with your Micro?

[Tiggs1]

I haven't gotten one yet :( My wife, I think is picking one up for me for Christmas or my b-day(jan2). If not, I will be picking one up for my b-day!! :D I will most definately stop by once I get a car!

[Jason C]

Maybe both you and your wife should get a Micro!
Have you heard of Hobby Warehouse? It's down in Richfield on the corner of Chicago and 71st. Since you're in Bloomington, it should be a short car ride north. Just get onto Portland Ave., head north until you reach 71st, turn right, and the shop should be a little to the right in a tiny strip mall. They've got some of the best prices I've ever seen (some even better than on-line shops)and last time I was there, they had a few Micros in stock. They also have a lot of Micro hop-ups too (mod motor, tires, titanium chassis, steel or aluminum universals, ball diff, etc.). Their hours are: 10a-6p on weekdays and Saturday, closed on Sunday. Check it out if you have time.

[Tiggs1]

LOL! I've been there many times! In fact, the guy there is selling Micros for $99...that is where the wifey is supposed to be picking it up from. I have tried hard to get my wife into this hobby, but to no avail. It's not a big deal cause I have 3 other friends who are into RC big time. We usually race at local parks (1/8 Nitro-offroad) but wanted to get Micros so we had something to do in the Winter. My basement should be big enough to race 3-4 Micros. We are also gonna check out the hobby store you told me about. I will make sure to let you know before we all go over there.

[Jason C]

Really!? Well, I guess I'm not all that surprised at all since you live so close to it. For the other hobby shop I told you about, do you mean National Hobby Company? If so, forget it. They have a very limited selection of RC stuff (mostly Assoc. and Losi) and their prices are higher than Hobby Warehouse. Their Micro kits are going for $110 (not inclu. tax). I only go there because it's close to my house and I usually only pick up small, cheaper stuff like motor spray or greases. They are kind of the generic, general-store type of hobby shop which sells model rockets, pine cars, static models, etc. But, I guess it doesn't hurt to check it out. They often have specials and sales on certain items so you may find a deal.
Unfortunately, Hobby Warehouse is a good 1/2 hour drive for me (I live in Fridley) so I don't go there all that often. I may go again next week on Monday if they're open, or after X-mas.
So, you and 3-4 other guys want to get Micros? Great! Maybe if we can get enough guys together, we can start a Micro class at the Brooklyn Park track.
As for 1/8, are there any 1/8 tracks in MN? I like the Inferno buggies, but never got one because there weren't any tracks near by for it.

[Tiggs1]

The only 1/8 scale nitro tracks I know of, are the ones we create :D We race around a baseball diamond at this park in a fairly secluded area of Burnsville. I own the MP7.5 and it is a BLAST! I probably will only race the Micro in Winter....when I have the 7.5 torn apart.

One of my buddies just picked up the Skyline, but has to wait til Christmas to open it (I couldn't do it). My other buddy is picking his up this weekend. I only hope my wife is on the bandwagon! We will hopefully find a place that's fairly close to race. I'll send you an e-mail when we have all of our stuff together!

[Jason C]

I just went to HobbyWarehouse today (Fri.) and they had 2 Micros left, both of them Porsches. I picked up the HardCore Racing Titanium rear upper deck as I managed to warp my stock one making the body mount at weird angles. I checked out the Titanium main chassis and it is nice! It has a special flex zone in the rear and it's very light. But it's $40! I'll wait until I crack my stock chassis plate (which shouldn't take too long considering the way I drive my micro).
You ought to take that 7.5 and run it in the snow. Were're gonna get hit hard this weekend according to the weather forecast so I'll get my RS4 rally all "waterproofed" and ready to rally.

Kinda getting a little off topic in this thread, so go ahead and drop me an e-mail. Use this address: chong_jas@hotmail.com

[ratfink74]

My LHS is planning to start racing micros. I was curious how other race tracks are breaking down the classes. With several different motors and many different battery options available, it seems that there could be too many different classes. Are you guys just running a box stock class using the 4 AA pack with the kit, or say 5 cell pack and stock motor for stock racing and anything else goes in mod class? I would like to hear how others are setting up their races. Thanks.

BTW here is a picture of my micro...
<p><CENTER>http://web.infoave.net/~ratfink/newrs4.jpg</CENTER>

[ratfink74]

My LHS is planning to start racing micros. I was curious how other race tracks are breaking down the classes. With several different motors and many different battery options available, it seems that there could be too many different classes. Are you guys just running a box stock class using the 4 AA pack with the kit, or say 5 cell pack and stock motor for stock racing and anything else goes in mod class? I would like to hear how others are setting up their races. Thanks.

BTW here is a picture of my micro...
<p><CENTER>http://web.infoave.net/~ratfink/newrs4.jpg</CENTER>

[Scomp87]

I got the viper. And I didn't use sissy decals for white stripes!

I got the Orion modified today. Can't wait to bolt it on!!!:D

[Raydee]

Man the HPI Micro RS4 is a blast! Even with the stock motor and a 5 cell pack it is a great time. They are getting real popular up here in NY. Winning....great paint job!! Here is mine.


http://home.adelphia.net/~raydee/images/Vettemicro2.jpg

[JimmyMac]

Hey Rat, I just raced today in Virginia for the first time with my Micro. Took 1st! I was told everyone was surprised I had a box stock motor. But I had 7.2v batts like just about everyone else. They were running the Orion stock motors with 7.2v. Guess it's my driving skills and setup hehe. Anyways, if there is enough people to race, I would say Stock class (box stock 4cell), and Mod (anything goes 6cell.) Keep it nice and simple. Too many classes and you will thin out the classes. Here we just have one class. Mod. Anything goes.

Jimmy Mac

[Jason C]

Raydee,

Does the Corvette body allow you to set the wheels at its widest settings for 150mm?

[Raydee]

Yes!

[winning edge designs]

SWEET!.........I ran mine around the shop at work,I think we'll have about 3 or 4 more micro sales soon!....Jim

[Jason C]

Great! Thanks :)

[Tiggs1]

Just to let you all know, HPI just came out with a Dodge Stratus body for the Micros...check it out here:

http://www.hpiracing.com/kits/k-micro-m.htm

Does ANYONE have any insight to what other body styles may become available?

Thanks!

[Big Wig]

My wife bought me a micro with vette body for xmas and I built it yesterday. Today I got my Quantam Reverse speedo and my Orion 7.2v pack. I'll be using a Novak XXL Rx and I'm running a Futaba FP-S3101 micro servo.

Is anyone running this servo? Does it perform well in the micro?

Also, what is the best way to mount this battery pack? I'm thinking 2 layers of servo tape on top of the chassis to raise the pack above the belt. How is everyone else mounting these packs?

thanks
Jay

BTW - this car is COOL!

[Raydee]

I mounted my battery to the optional battery holder that came with the kit! I used doubled sided tape to hold it in and mounted it the long way in the chassis opposite of the way the stock batts mounted! It works perfect with the micro servo.

http://home.adelphia.net/~raydee/images/Vettemicro2.jpg

[Jason C]

Has anybody gotten the GH wheel adapters and aluminum wheels? I just got them and they are awesome! They spin truer than the stock wheels (on my Micro anyway) and they just look cool. No more having to cut my thumb trying to yank off the rear wheel to adjust the diff - just loosen 3 screws and off comes the wheel.

Unfortunately, the current wheel adapters do not work with the rear ball diff (I found out the hard way...:( ). There is not enough room for a thrust bearing (required for the ball diff) so the diff will loosen or tighten itself as you drive the car.

On the stock inner wheels, I use a Losi thrust bearing (part# 3098) for my ball diff and it works very smoothly. If you want to use the GH adapters and wheels, you will need to get their 4-way aluminum wrench as well as the stock plastic one will not fit inside the adapter.

[JimmyMac]

I heard the aluminum wheels warp very easy if you just drop them at table height. Not too good for racing. Although would be good for a show car. I'm looking into the one piece composite wheels. Those would be good for racing.

As for the battery, I have not experience with that perticular battery. I use the smaller 7.2v brick pack. You could just use the stock holder that comes with the kit. You can use the thick one sided foam and place it on the lower chassis to give the proper spacing between the bottom of the battery and lower belt. Hope this helps!

Jimmy Mac

[Jason C]

One-piece composite wheels? Where did you find those, KilRuf? So far, no problems with the aluminum wheels, but I'd rather use plastic ones for racing as they may be lighter and less costly to replace.

[JimmyMac]

Have you ever been to yourmicro dot com? Just add the w's and a "." not dot. :D It's the best Micro site on the net with an excellent forum! Now that I think of it, they were one piece nylon wheels. GPM makes them. They even come with foams if you want those. But try that site out if you haven't already. It's your basic one stop Micro site. Enjoy!

Jimmy Mac

[XXXER]

Hey guys, well, the HPI mod, is no longer on backorder, so I just picked up mine today, and also, I got my 7.2V Orion pack in, and let me tell you, this thing SINGS now! These up grades are a definate NEED!
We have sold 8 micros at my shop so far(Me being the first, hahahaha). I also have ordered the Hardcore Racing Titanium chassis, upper deck, and rear upper deck, from what I understand, it is very stiff, but I am in it for the style, I will post pics when I get them(sometime next week).

The HPI Chrome Wheels are still on backorder, so if you are thinking of making that order, be prepared to wait, unless your LHS has them in stock. I have talked with a Hardcore Racing representative, and it looks like the things I ordered, will be just under 100 bucks. The wheels are 59 bucks a set, and they have a new design, which is much cooler than the first two designs, but, without having them be adjustable, so as when I want to change the wheelbases, and the widths, I will have to turn around, and spend more money, which I do not think I will do.

I ordered a HUGE list of Team Orion parts, like, the front one way, aluminum steering knuckles(already broke 2!!!), rear ball diff, and a bunch of other smaller parts, I will tell you all how they are, when they come(jan-feb).

What have you guys done to yours/plan on doing to yours?

[Want MBX-4]

Well today I stripped the stock front diff. I want a better diff than the stock one. Whats the cheapest and whats the best???

[Want MBX-4]

Has anyone got the GT-ONE body (http://www.dxmarket.com/arm/products/TOY.html) or chassis (http://www.dxmarket.com/arm/products/CH.html) from American Racing Models? If so, did the decals come with the GT-ONE? Thanks in advance.

[Jason C]

Many thanks, KilRuf.:)

I've got the HPI mod motor, front steel universals, Hardcore rear Ti upper deck, HPI med. and soft tires on my GH aluminum wheels. I'm planning to get the Hardcore Ti lower chassis (probably not the upper deck as I like the stock battery mounting slots). I'm going to try using a GPM oil shock for a Mini-Z to replace the rear shock on my Micro. IPD has a cool graphite chassis that utilizes an Assoc. Micro shock in the rear. Check out www.micrors4racer.com to see it.

[JimmyMac]

Yeah, I want the IPD chassis set real bad, but don't know how or where to order them when they come out. I think it'll give me the best performance when I race again. Hmmm I guess I'll have to get a Speed 300 as well. They race on a 1/10 TC track. So I'll need something with speed....... :D

[Big Wig]

Well, my micro is finished and I've run it on my 12' x 18' garage track... this car is a blast! I only got 15 - 20 minutes of running before my Futaba micro servo was smoked though:mad:

I ordered a Hitec MG micro servo so that should take care of the problem.

With the stock motor and the Orion 7.2v pack this car is too fast for my small track... good fun!

here's the 1st pic

[Big Wig]

here's the 2nd pic... btw- that's my new Thunder Quake in the background:D

[Tiggs1]

LOL...you guys!! You're Micros are gonna be worth more then my 1/8 nitro buggy!! My buddies and I are keeping our cars stock...except for the Orion 7.2V cell. It's easier to get people to buy a Micro when they know they are only gonna be out $200....not $1000 :D Of course, I am all talk now....I'm sure things will change when I get my Micro.

[Jason C]

Part of the fun in RC is being able to buy hop-ups to make your car better. But, to keep my costs down, I try to only get hop-ups to replace broken stock parts or parts that are known to break.

Tiggs,

I'm sure you will get some hop-up item within a month after you get your Micro. I suggest you get either spare front universals, or get some aluminum or steel ones. A 7.2 volt pack will make the Micro launch faster and harder putting more stress on the little plastic universals. I think that may be the only "neccessary" hop-up. You may as well pick up a Losi thrust bearing set for the rear wheel (part# 3098). The stock Micro uses a plastic bushing that may allow the diff adjust nut to loosen. The thrust bearing will prevent any problems.
You might as well pick up at least the bearing along with your kit at the store.

I was at the Brooklyn Park track on Sunday with my TC3 and Micro. The Micro runs great on the carpet, but I suggest you get the soft compound tires for the rear should you choose to run there. The stock tires allow the Micro to slide too much so I spin out very easily, but adding the soft rear tires really helps. The stock front tires are fine.

[winning edge designs]

WOw,I was just cruising the Horizon site,checking out the new items. They are coming out with a BUNCH of new Micro RS4 parts. Motor mount,shocks,diffs,springs,chassis,steering hubs,axles. It all looked pretty sweet!

Funny,on the Hop-up issue,we always complain about the cost after we make it out of control. Then get a fresh class,since it's "less expensive" and do it all over again,LOL............looks like there are a few hop-ups in my future as well,haha,Jim

[RS4]

sweet :D , micro racin in the twin cities. just got mine a few days ago! its my 1st electric, and it will be race ready in a week or so, i need a new radio and a couple other things. i'll have to check that 0out

[kingkong]

Just finished building my micro. It's pretty sweet lookin, but it doesn't have an ESC yet. I would appreciate any suggestions. I'm leaning toward Quantum reverse. One local track has a micro class, and another is starting one so I gotta get it runnin! Thanks again.

By the way...your right about yourmicro.com The buyers guide is pretty cool and the forums are more specific.

[Jason C]

I have an LRP Quantum Reverse in mine. The only thing I don't like about it is the price tag ~$90. I've heard many folks used Futaba's MC230CR with good results and it's a pretty small ESC too. It's a little more than half the price of the Quantum.
But, I think the LRP is perfect for the Micro. The one feature I really like is the external solder tabs - you can change the wire gauge to something higher to fit better.

[Tiggs1]

Woohoo!! The wife got my the Porsche for my b-day! I have to wait to build it though until my 7.5 is finished being overhauled. Would you guys prefer the LRP over the Orion Speed controller?

[kingkong]

OK I just snapped in my ESC. I settled on a GM V6R. 79.99 at the LHS and it works awesome. Apparently the less expensive models work just as well but they were out of stock. If I decide to put it in another car someday it will accept down to a 12T motor.
Thanks for the input!

[MikeR]

Originally posted by Want MBX-4
Has anyone got the GT-ONE body (http://www.dxmarket.com/arm/products/TOY.html) or chassis (http://www.dxmarket.com/arm/products/CH.html) from American Racing Models? If so, did the decals come with the GT-ONE? Thanks in advance.

just lexan peices and a bag:p no stickers. Have plenty of leftover stuff though to put on mine.

[Jason C]

Originally posted by Tiggs1
Woohoo!! The wife got my the Porsche for my b-day! I have to wait to build it though until my 7.5 is finished being overhauled. Would you guys prefer the LRP over the Orion Speed controller?


I prefer the LRP. You can always swap it out to a 1/10 car later if you want to, but the Orion ESC can't.

[winning edge designs]

In my opinion the Orion has a lower CG and costs WAY less. I just got an Orion and it works excellent,especially for the money!...............Only downside is it's epoxied,so not servicable,but comes with a warranty..........If it lives a decent amount of time,and it should in a tiny micro car,its the best deal on the planet!........Jim

[JimmyMac]

I've heard the Orion has problems with 6 cell batteries. Stuff like hesitations and what not. Also rumored about a mod racing version? What would happen if you took the LRP case apart and epoxed it or just heat shrunk it... Hmmm smaller huh!! hehe..

[winning edge designs]

I havent had problems with 6 cells,but i'll look out for it...good idea on the LRP case though!..........In a tiny car every little bit helps,especially in the traction rolling dept.!.........Jim

[cavfan1]

I picked up a GM V4r for my micro and it works realy well for me so far with 5 or 6 cells. The only thing I don't like about it is that it dosen't have a traditional on/off switch. You plug in the battery and its on, unplug and its off. I just got my tower order today with the HPI mod and the orion Big Block and the orion pinion pack. That big block it gonna be sweet when I can open it up. Lots of torque and RPM. The pinions are maybe derlin or something. They fit tightly on the big block motor and were actualy recomended for it in the instructions. They are A LOT smoother and quieter than the kit pinions. One of the local hobbie shops runs an oval for them on Thursday nights, so hopefuly I can run it there this week.

[Jason C]

I feel dumb asking this, but what is an Orion Big Block? Is that their coreless motor? Thanks.

[AlterEgo]

The big block is just a Graupner Speed 300 ($10) with an Orion Sticker ($30).
A rip off if you ask me.
MrZ

[Tiggs1]

What is a one-way diff and why would I want to upgrade my Micro with one?

[Tiggs1]

I forgot to add that two of my buddies picked up the Orion Speed Controllers and are using the 7.2V packs. Neither one of them can get there brakes working. One contacted Orion and it is a known problem. I am sticking to the LRP.

[Jason C]

Thanks, AlterEgo.

Tiggs,

A one-way is a one-way bearing (like the ones in pullstart nitro engines) that allows the shaft to turn one way but not the other. The front oneway allows the drivetrain to power the front wheels, but once you let off the throttle, the bearing allows the wheels to spin freely without the drag of the drivetrain to slow it down. This allows your car to coast at a faster speed longer. It also helps the car in turns as there is no diff action (such as the inner wheel unloading in a tight turn) so you are able to turn tighter and faster, but the downside is you don't have any front braking. This makes oneways hard to use on twisty tracks as a hard tap on the brakes can lock up the rear wheels and cause you to spin out. Oneways are better suited to more open tracks with wider turns where you can carry more speed and have less risk of spinning out.

Having a oneway in your Micro is entirely up to you. Since the Micro is so small, it can run pretty well on 1/10 carpet tracks without having to make real tight turns as it is more nimble. Like mentioned above, it will allow you to coast faster and carry more speed thru a turn, but you run a risk of spinning out. Also, since it doesn't have any diff action, it will put more strain on your universals. Whereas a regular diff can help ease the strain on the little plastic universals by unloading on a wheel, the oneway will grab the output shaft and send full power to the wheels.

Personally, I never liked oneways, so I think the $30 can be better spent elsewhere like getting a new motor or battery or ball diff.

[Tiggs1]

Thanks for the info Jason!

[Jason C]

No problem!:)

[winning edge designs]

I know of a guy who made a saddle pack chassis and runs his car in rear wheel drive only. Since he races on a groomed track,the 4w isn't needed and he's much faster.Not to mention the mini saddle pack chassis is trick!................No one-way,no diff at all,LOL.....Jim

[Jason C]

To try and make my M3 more "realistic", I removed the belt to see how it would run on RWD. I found it spins out very easily and hard braking will instantly cause my car to swap ends and do a 180.

I also tried FWD by removing the bevel gears from the rear diff to make it more like an import racer. Not too bad, but acceleration stinks and the front wheels just spin as the cars slowly begins to pick up speed.

Today, I just finished a little project on my Micro: I installed an Assoc. VCS Micro shock on the rear susp.

I cut the lower chassis letting the rear pod flex a lot. I had cut a 33mm long V-groove leaving a narrow section of chassis connected to the rear. Along with a lot of flex, this allowed the rear axle to twist.
I used a HardCore Racing rear titanium upper deck and cut and ground away some of the metal to make room for the shock. I used a 1/10 ball stud and reused the open-ended shock ballcup to mount on the chassis.
Not only does it look cool, but I have more suspension travel than stock, and it is damped by 25W oil and I can adjust the preload.

Oddly enough, I found an Associated Micro Sock even smaller than the VCS Micro Shock. I think it was part# 4444... I didn't see any foam volume compensator so it must not be a VCS shock.

[Tiggs1]

I was thinking about slotting the chassis also...do you think it's worth it? Does it really improve the handling?

Thanks

[Jason C]

I think it's worth slotting the chassis. Here's a site that shows you how:

http://www.micrors4racer.com/chassis.htm

I did the same thing, except I made the slots very long, leaving only a narrow section of chassis left attached to the rear pod. Doing what they did in the picture allows more vertical flex, but not as much torsional flex as what I did to my chassis.

Cutting the chassis as much as they did in the pic would probably improve handling a little. I didn't notice much of a change when I followed the pic, so I continued to cut more and more while testing it out on my driveway. Eventually, I settled on long slots that seemed to work well.

They said to be careful of cutting the chassis too much as it will allow more flex and possibly cause belt skipping. I never had any problems with skipping. Don't cut too much if you are using the stock shock. I feel it is not up to the job when more damping is needed to control the extra flex.

When in doubt, don't cut too much. You can always cut off more, but you can never replace what you cut!

[Tiggs1]

Thanks again for the advice Jason...I will check out the site.

Another question about servos. My buddies keep stripping thier micro servos, so they upgraded to metal gears. I have also decided to get a metal gear servo to be on the safe side. Hitec makes the 81MG and the 85MG. The 85 has a bit more torque and is a hair slower then the 81. Which would you guys choose? What other brands would you also check out?

Thanks in advance.

[Jason C]

Any time, Tiggs :)

Personally, I don't think a really fast servo works well in the Micro. It makes steering twitchy if the driver is not used to it, but that's my opinion. I don't know what your driving style is, but I prefer servos with slightly slower transit times (about .16-.20). I'm too cheap to go buy a Micro servo so I used the kit servos included in my JR XR2 radio. It works fine and no stripped gears so far.

The HS-81MG delivers plenty of torque to steer the Micro and is fast. If that's how you like your servos, then go for it!

I'd also take a look at Futaba servos. Their S3101 micro servo has a transit time of .18 and torque of 34.7. It doesn't have metal gears, though.

Be careful with the stock steering knuckles. I managed to break one while tapping the barrier with the wheels still turned. They seem to be a weak spot in the Micro design (the lower "nub" that you thread a screw into to limit the travel upward breaks easily) so a torquey servo may put additional stress on it. I have upgraded to aluminum steering knuckles with no more breakages.

[XXXER]

Well, what happened as a total fun toy, has managed to become an obsession, and put off racing my buggy more and more.

I have all of the main chassis parts from Hardcore Racing, though very sweet looking, it is P R I C E Y(read: more than a stock kit), and heavy, which is somewhat a bummer. If you are in it for the looks purely, then go for it! I know that Megatech makes some good looking chassis' as well, including one with an adjustable servo mount!

Also new for my Micro, is the front one way, and the steel universals(new tonight actually!). I will just say one thing, when HPI suggests you use the steel universals with the one way, they are NOT LYING! I broke one of my shafts, and lost it :( The one way does make driving much different, though, I found it worth it, because after you have stripped out 2 stock diffs(yes, they were built correctly!), I got sick of doing the 3WD thing, and pulling, etc, so I got the one-way.

I ordered some of the Team Orion stuff, so, It will be cool when they come in. I also have a Corvette body in, that I just need to go buy, which will probably have to wait, until next paycheck(it will be my concourse body, I want this thing to be cool!)

Well, good catching up guys!

Later
-Steve

[RC10 GuyAZ]

I just got a micro and I was thinking about getting this esc. EXCEPT that I keep hearing bad things about it(glitching, no brakes, limit on cells). Could those of you who actualy HAVE the esc clarify this for me. Also what is the difference between the HPI mod and the Orion Mod other than price? Thanks guys

Patrick :cool:

[Tiggs1]

RC10Guy....I don't have a Orion Flash, but two of my buddies do...they had no brakes and very non-linear throttle. The good news is that Orion has admitted there is a problem, and they are replacing the defective speed controls. You can find their statement on their website. With that said, I got the LRP Quantum Reverse and it rocks!

For the rest of the board, is there a after-market hopup to improve the steering linkage?

[TeamCorvette]

I have a few questions about the Micro RS4 and ESCs. First off I need to get a new one for the Micro I will soon get. I was thinking about the Novak C2, LRP Quantum Sport, and the LRP Quantum Super Sport. I would have a use for the C2 in other cars but it would take longer to get my Micro running since I'll need to save money longer. Now what are the differences between the Quantum Sport and Super Sport. I know the motor turns change but is the throttle control as good on the Sport as the C2. Thanks for the help.:)

[Vmax911]

Hey everybody, I just finished My Micro, thought I'd post a pic.

Now it's time for hop-ups!!

http://rc.craz.com/images/photos/microdoneside.jpg

[Raydee]

My new Vette
http://home.adelphia.net/~raydee/images/Corvettemicro4.jpg

New chassis
http://home.adelphia.net/~raydee/images/transponder2.jpg

[blurredvision]

Here is my Micro, it started out as a M3 but I haven't gotten around to painting that body. This body (Vette) is just for racing-

http://www3.sympatico.ca/galeforce/Micro/bashnbody.jpg

http://www3.sympatico.ca/galeforce/Micro/currentsetup1.jpg

http://www3.sympatico.ca/galeforce/Micro/seethrough2.jpg

Current Set up

Micro M3 150mm
Modified Stock Chassis cut 5mm for rear suspension
Lowered Stock Chassis
Lowered top chassis
Novak XXL fm
LRP Quantum Reverse
Team Orion Elite Micro Modified
OFNA Brick Cell 1.2v NiMH x6 = 7.2v
13t pinion
Soft rear tires
Hitec HS-81mg


That is all for now...

[Tiggs1]

Awesome cars guys!

I am still looking for a 3rd party steering linkage...anyone knkow of such a thing? I would like to be able to adjust the camber and toe-in, out...etc.

[pippy]

Ok, I'm almost ready to get a micro, but I just want some reasurance. I'm buying it to have something to bomb around the house in during the winter. Would the micro be cool for this or is it too big? The mini-z might be a better size but seems too fragile. What do you all think? How much room do I need to run a micro?

[RS4]

blurredvision, how are those brick cells working for you? what is the capacity on them? and how much are they per cell? i am looking to build a pack for my micro with a speed 300, either 7.2 or maybe 8.4 volts :D . i am thinking i will go with AA cells or brick, AAAs gave me about 10 mins of run time, i need the capacity. i also am keeping price in consideration, i have put a lot of money in my car.

[Big Wig]

Hi all!

I thought I'd post a pic of my micro. Out of my 7 RC vehicles, it's the only one I've been using regularly lately (I hate winter) and I'm having a great time with it!

my micro (http://www.printroom.com/_vti_bin/ViewImage.dll?userid=JCV&album_id=49626&image_id=2&courtesy=1)

mods include:


Ratzas pan chassis
Ratzas racer top deck
Ratzas VCS rear deck
VCS rear shock
GPM ball diff
GH alum drive shafts
GH alum knuckles (sweet)
stainless steel screw kit
Orion elite stock motor
HPI mod motor (depending on where I run it)
GH alum front shocks


I think that's about it

Micros rule! Great thread!

[Jason C]

Tiggs,

I've been thinking of using a pair of the plastic front "shocks" as the ball cups to the steering knuckles and cutting down a pair of turnbuckles to fit. I'm not sure about using an aftermarket servo-saver to join the links as it may get in the way of the servo throw.


Pippy,

A Micro is great for indoors, but you're right - it does require a bit more space than a Mini-Z. If space is tight, you'd be better off with the Mini-Z. I even made a track on my ping-pong table for my Mini-Z, the Micro cannot turn sharply enough to navigate it.



Does anyone know if an aftermarket company released a front ball diff yet? I guess prolonged running on front-drive wears out the plastic diff gears.


RS4,

8.4 volts, huh? As if flipping your car over 10 times on the turn after the straight isn't enough ;) . Maybe you should try for 9.6 if your ESC can handle it.
Did you get your new stuff yet? I want to get the 'Vette body as it allows me to run the widest tire setting at 150mm WB.

[blurredvision]

RS4 - I like this battery set up. The cells are 1.2v 1000mah NiMH, you need to wire six of these in series to get a 7.2v battery pack. I get more than enough run time 45 minutes or more.

I have some jet rims on the way now...I also broke down and bought a complete IPD Racing chassis set, with the VCS.

[Aluma]

where do you get that cool pan chassis? Ratzas?

how much?

[Aluma]

where do you get that cool pan chassis? Ratzas?

how much?

[Big Wig]

you'll find the Ratzas stuff here (http://ratzas.net/)

this guy makes real nice stuff and he's a cool guy too. just call and talk to Clint.

IMHO, Ratzas has the best chassis out there. there is an ellipse milled in the rear that's made to flex up and down but it will also twist just as easily so you get full suspension while cornering. it has made an amazing difference in the handling of my car.

the prices are great too

good luck
Jay

[Big Wig]

here is a pic of the bottom of the chassis

ellipse (http://www.printroom.com/_vti_bin/ViewImage.dll?userid=JCV&album_id=49626&image_id=3&courtesy=1)

[RS4rally1124]

has anyone converted this car to anything other thAN A CAR. I WAS WONDERING IF ANYONE HAS CHANGED IT INTO A RALLY CAR OR EVEN A BUGGY KIND OF LIKE THE TC3-O ONLY MINI.

ANYONE LIVE IN cANADA AND KNOW HOW MUCH THEY ARE OVER THERE THANKS

jt

[RS4rally1124]

has anyone converted this car to anything other thAN A CAR. I WAS WONDERING IF ANYONE HAS CHANGED IT INTO A RALLY CAR OR EVEN A BUGGY KIND OF LIKE THE TC3-O ONLY MINI.

ANYONE LIVE IN cANADA AND KNOW HOW MUCH THEY ARE OVER THERE THANKS

jt

[Tiggs1]

With the higher center of gravity and light wieght, I would think that an offroad Micro would be tough to drive....Would love to see it though!

[blurredvision]

RS4rally1124
The kits go for $150-$170 Canadian.

[xxtcrgp]

i bought my micro at my local hobby shop for 200 dollars canadian. I know you can get them cheaper online but i suport my local hobby shop. as for the rally idea, Im working on it, i am a huge fan of rally. so far ive only got rally kind of tires. ill keep you informed:cool:

[JimmyMac]

Just wanted to repost my Micro again, but this time with the inside look...

[JimmyMac]

And of course the outside...

[blurredvision]

The price I was quoting was from a LHS in Ontario. I also like to support the LHS's.

Jay

[Jason C]

Anyone know if a front ball diff is going to be released soon? I'm not interested in a one-way - I prefer dual diffs. Thanks.

[blurredvision]

Here is my first try at an airbrushed paint job. It looks ok, but didn't turn out quite like I was planning.
Many thanks to my wife who designed the flames. She's great.

Also sporting my new Jet wheels bought from www.micrors4racer.com (http://www.micrors4racer.com) Good fast service, great prices, awsome products. I included a pic of my 1st order from them. Now I just have to find time to install it all.

http://www3.sympatico.ca/galeforce/Micro/galeforcem31.jpg

http://www3.sympatico.ca/galeforce/Micro/galeforcem32.jpg

http://www3.sympatico.ca/galeforce/Micro/stufftoinstall.jpg

What do you think?

Jay

[Tiggs1]

Awesome Paintjob!

[Tiggs1]

Jason C

Don't know much about it yet, but this is coming out Feb 1

http://www.teamspeedster.com/store/itemDesc.php?itemid=324&back=/store/partsOption.php

[Usagi]

I have a Q? servos which is the smallest use?
Thank you :)

[blurredvision]

I use the Hitec HS-81mg servo, it's nice and small.

Jay

[Jason C]

Great job, Blurredvision. Do the JET wheels work with the HPI rear ball diff?

Thanks, Tiggs.