Ofna Monster Pirate Forum

[Jasio18]

lol thanx fezzy...you got that one right....so what is the deal with the xtm 24.7 or ofna .25 engines??? anyone dropped one of those babies in??? how are the gears handling the engines??? did u have to "adapt" the engine onto the chassis? any changes? wheelies???


anyone with either engine please give us some valuable info

[jives]

Originally posted by fezzy
Don't thread lock your wheel nuts! Just make sure they're night, mine have never even come loose.

Any reason not too? I thread lock mine becasue I've cranked mine till I left indentions in the wheels and they’ve still come loose.

[fezzy]

I spose if your having problems keeping them on you could put a little loctite on but i (and many others i know) have never had any problems with them coming loose after a good tightening

[jives]

Ok I was just wondering if there was a reason that it was bad to do it. Yeah if your not having a problem it's not nessary.

Pirates have away of being funny, Todd has trouble with the pipe, others with the diff me just wheel nuts and pull starters rattling loose all the time. :)

[rcracerguy]

How do you order from SaBR? I don't see a order form. Do you have to call them? I was looking to get the tall front shock towers and wondered what the mod ones were?Also will a pair of threaded t-maxx shocks fit? I wouldn't see why not.

[Hudler]

My first thought when I opened up my MP box today was wow those tires are HUGE! I have owned a few nitro kits in my day...but wow those tires are huge(did I say that already?) I was wondering what type of battery pack would fit properly in the sealed tray a hump or stick pack. It's apparent that 4 Double A batterys will not do. What weight of shock oil are you guys using I have 60 and 70 weight right now. I plan on filling the diffs with diff fluid what weight are you using? I will be tearing the factory assembly apart and using thread lock on all metal to metal bolts and nuts. Its snowing here in Moose Jaw Canada so I have a lot of time on my hands. Sorry to ramble on, but the initial excitment is always high when you get a rc package in the mail! There is a new kid magnet on my block and its called the Monster Pirate.

[jives]

Battery: Trinity Receiver Pack 1/8 On-Road Flat #RC5303 Fit really well.

Shocks oil: I over drilled my pistons and used 100wt

Difs: never have had to open them up...yet :)

Kid Magnet: Yes, yes it is :)

[matt from uk]

does anyone know wether this or the dom wheelie? i want one anyone raced the new t mAXX STOCK results? also anyone now this things top speed and wether it is any different from the doms ?

[toddzilla]

i ordered ten sanyo aa ni-cds with tabs and two servo plugs from tower, assembled them with silver solder in a square with one sitting on top config. it fits just perfect in my box along with my dynamite fail safe and stadard futaba reciever..the two packs cost me about 20 bucks and give me plenty of juice with a backup for the price of a pre-assembled pack alone :D

[Jasio18]

cool.....how do you keep the pack from falling apart when u hit a bump or a jump??? When I built my battery pack for my TC3, it kept on falling apart when I hit bumps. Thank god it was an electric TC3, if it was nitro....i would have no control over the vehichle whatsoever.

Is it possible to put a 7.2 volt battery as your reciever pack??? Would it damage my electronics??


Gonna try with one of the Ni-MH packs and old electronics...if stuff fries...ohh well. Servo should have more torque with 7.2 right???

[Jasio18]

hold up....

u said u got ten AAs???

so that means if 1 AA is 1.5 volts...and u got 10 of em....
10x1.5=15volts??? (thank you school for teaching me multiplication :) )

15volts...wow!

[cmracing]

To all the Monster Pirate owners out there: I decided to take one of my spare Ofna 1/8 buggies and make a Monster Pirate Cousin out of it. I had special adapters made so I could use T-Maxx wheels and tires on the buggy and to also give it a wider stance. I used a spare rear shock mount with long shocks up front to replace the original front shock mount with the short shocks. I put the Monster Pirate body posts front and back. I had it running with a Hyper .21, but it didn't have enough low-end grunt for me. I then spent about 4 hours putting the Monster Pirate spur gear in there to make up for the large tires. That was a lot of work and modifications! :mad: I brought it back out and it was a lot better, but no wheelies yet! I know the low-end is way too rich right now. When I get time I will do some more tuning and see if I can stand it on it's end! :D One problem I ran into with the large spur gear is that I had to give up the rear brakes for right now. I plan on locking the center diff anyway, so it won't really matter. It stops pretty good right now, but before it used to lock them up with no problem! I am interested to see how these diffs hold up compared to the "Normal" Monster Pirate diffs..........

[jives]

Originally posted by Jasio18
hold up....

u said u got ten AAs???

so that means if 1 AA is 1.5 volts...and u got 10 of em....
10x1.5=15volts??? (thank you school for teaching me multiplication :) )

15volts...wow!

5 parallel pairs in series would give you 6V and 2 times the mAh rated for the cell. You don’t have to always series batteries, Parallel gives you longer run time. Ni-Cad are only 1.2V, Alkaline are 1.5V. So 4 Alkaline are 6V but it takes 5 Ni-Cad or Ni-MH in series to get 6V.

I bought the Trinity which is 1100mAh originally for my 1/5th scale, but it wouldn’t last and entire tank before dieing so I built a pack for it (1400mAh Sub Cs) and moved the Trinity pack to my MP.

[Jasio18]

Originally posted by jives
5 parallel pairs in series would give you 6V and 2 times the mAh rated for the cell.................MP.


Uhh thanks for explaining...thats why I am into nitro...all this electronics crap is just too confusing. I use standard 4 1.5v batteries on my MP, seems to work fine. :)

[OutlawSmithy]

Does anyone know the EXACT diameter of the 60-tooth spur gear on the Monster Pirate 2 speed transmission?

[cmracing]

I know that Nicads and NIMH's are susposed to be 1.2 volts, but it seems that most are lower, closer to 1.1 volts. Not that it matters too much. I use two Orion 1100 mA 5-cell NIMH packs in one of my trucks (wired in parallel) to make them into a 6 volt 2200 mA pack and to keep the size down. :D A simple way to think of batteries: put them in series to add the voltage of one battery to the next which leaves the current capacity the same, or put them in parallel to keep the voltage the same but to add the current capacity of one battery to the next.

[toddzilla]

call me a hack, but i wrapped em in duct tape !!

i wrapped the ends individual though, then i wrapped the whole thing. i bought 700mah cells and it seems to work pretty well, but i think i'm gonna pick up a peak charger cause the trickle charger doesn't seem to give me a consistent charge.



went to the hobby shop today to pick up my slipper and alum. bulkheads for the front... he gets the slipper out and it says 89.99 on it when the guy who ordered it told me 75.00.. i was quite annoyed:( i told him to keep it until i can talk to the head r/c guy. then i ask about my aluminum bulks and he says they haven't been ordered because they need to make a minimum order to powerline and there isn't enough stuff yet.. no phonecall letting me know this or anything either... so now i'm stuck with a zip-tie holding my right front upper a-arm in place until i can get some bulks online.. pretty crappy cust. service! this kind of stuff irritates me because i went out of my way to patronize the LHS over buying online and end up with headaches... grrrr!!

and to add to it all its been raining for two days!!!

[cmracing]

I have read several times already that the bulkheads on the Monster Pirate tend to break. Is it from hitting things too hard? Is it simply from large jumps? I have smacked stuff REALLY hard with my Ofna buggies and the worst thing I ever did was dislocate a front shock.:D This is one of the reasons I built my version of the "Monster Pirate" using an Ofna MBX.

[fezzy]

The reason i think why MP's break bulkheads is because of the tyres, they weigh so much that in an impact that weight is 5x as much going against the suspension components because of the way they are at the end of the arms, If you have Maxx Sized rubber on a MP they weigh much less so there is much less force put on the components on an impact

[jives]

Yeah it's those Monster tires that do them in. Figure with the offset of the tire and the length on the arms you've got a 6"-8" lever in effect pulling on those diff supports.

Aluminum Diff supports are one answers, another is the dominator front shock tower since the hinge pins go through the aluminum it puts most of the force which comes from a forward impact on it instead of the plastic. Also allows for longer front shocks Seen here (http://eeshop.unl.edu/jpages/jrc_files/MP-RC/MP-RC-15.JPG).

Smaller tires put less strain so they do seem to help but a sharp impact can still snap the diff supports. But even with Aluminum supports you hit some thing hard enough some thing is going to break, just now you moved the weak spot to the arms. I prefer to break an arm over a diff support any day they are easier to replace and cheaper. Arms are interchangeable L&R Diff supports aren’t…any one need an extra R diff support I got like 5 of the plastic ones. :) Seems I only break the left side, though after the Dominator Shock tower and long shock I haven’t broke another one yet and I still run the Shock rims and tires 80% of the time.

I’ve got some new video on mine in action I just need to compress it, I went out to shoot how well it handled now but the track was so muddy it turned in to a MP vs 2.5 T-Maxx mud bogging contest :) Sadly I have to admit the T-Maxx got me, second run thru the water I got water in the tune pipe and couldn’t get any power but still a Year old MP vs a brand new T-Maxx (on 7th tank :)) oh yeah MP no reverse so I was able to make the run and never get stuck My cousin was testing out reverse quite a bit to keep his on the move :)

Hopefully get those videos up later today.

EDIT Video Links
MP Mud 6M (http://spud.unl.edu/video/mp_mud.mov)
Tmaxx Mud 4.3M (http://spud.unl.edu/video/Tmaxx_mud.mov)

EDIT2
Arggg If you are having trouble getting them to play do a "save as" think I uncheck the Streaming box in quick time :( Still learning as I go here :)

[cmracing]

Well, I guess with my version of the Monster Pirate, I won't have to worry too much about breakage. The front of the hinge pin goes through the shock tower, the rear is in a thick plastic piece that bolts to the front diff. I would think an a-arm would break first on mine. If it doesn't, then it's gonna be a BIG mess to fix! I am going to put really long screws through the front and rear diffs to keep them together better. The guys with the EK4's have to do this also. It isn't neccessary with the Ofna's, but it won't hurt anything and will probably prolong the ring gear's life.

[MMTM]

Hey guys, I forgot I had posted that chassis here also. Here are 2 pics I took last night. I've almost got it all built. Just need to install my tank and figure out which motor to install. I also installed my new SaBR 7 hole rims and Ofna V-spike tires.



http://www.knology.net/~MonsterPirate/images/sabr2.JPG

http://www.knology.net/~MonsterPirate/images/sabr3.JPG

[toddzilla]

i use the smaller dominator tires.. i think the bulkheads are just a bad design.. i didn't know that about the dominator, i might just switch to different shock towers instead of getting the aluminum bulks..

[jives]

When I put the Dominator Shock tower on I had to do a little moding. One was I had to use a set of long pins for the top arms, since a couple of the bulk heads I had bought came with pins I just put the same ones used for the bottom on the top. They’re a bit too long but not a problem. Second I never even tried to use the original short shocks up front again I built a second set of long shocks like the rear cause I already had the bodies and shafts from earlier part I had bought for repairs. But I had to enlarge the hole I used to mount them in for the screw to fit. Last I had to trim the body mount a bit. Nothing major, pretty easy to see once you got the part in your hand. And like I said before I’ve never busted another front diff support yet.

[toddzilla]

so i would need to get ...

long shocks
new front bulkheads(are these the same for dom and mp?
new front shock tower

i already have a set of extra pins from the bulkheads i bought also..

thanks

[jives]

Originally posted by toddzilla
so i would need to get ...

long shocks <-- Yes, either just like the Rear or Dominator

new front bulkheads(are these the same for dom and mp? I keep the "stock" MP ones so they are at least close if not the same

new front shock tower <-- [i] see below[i/]


Shocks
18621 for a complete pair of Dominator shocks
or
18030 and 18029 and 18033 build another set of rears (well really all 4)

18624 is the Shock tower

18019 is the diff supports
http://www2.gpmd.com/image/o/ofnc1819.jpg
^^^
These are like the ones I have see the "extra" tab in the bottom might chsck if your's had this it does seem to help lower the number of broken diff supports.

I got My MP tore apart at the moment for some heavy cleaning after the mudding :) so If I get to putting the front together tomorrow I'll snap some pics.

[fezzy]

Jives, How does the MP copare to the 2.5 in terms of speed/power?

[vikingdave21]

Just ordered my new MP. was wondering what wheels and body's fit this thing

[jives]

Originally posted by fezzy
Jives, How does the MP copare to the 2.5 in terms of speed/power?

Well the 2.5 has quite a bit of power pretty close to the power to weight of a hyper and MP. My cousin was almost able to get it to pull the front end up and was easily able to get three wheel motion on eit and that was still set for break in :) Speed it was faster but not like blow away, more like a light jog away :) Once he gets it' leaned out it'll probity take my MP no problem. But hey my MP and hyper are pretty well used put a new Hyper or other good .21 and a 2 speed, smoke session on the T-Maxx :).

However the T-Maxx still rolls much easier than the MP. Durabilty well nither of us broke anything that stopped us from running at that track, when we got home he had cracked a rear diff support and I had shelled serveral bearings.

I'd have to say the 2.5 Maxx is a really good truck Traxxas made a good step in the right direction. If it had been out before I bought my MP I might have gone with it but the TRX .15 in the old T-Maxx no way. :)

Originally posted by vikingdave21
Just ordered my new MP. was wondering what wheels and body's fit this thing

Wheels any 17mm hex drive (1/8th scale) wheels will work. the best ones I know of are the MT3 from ofna which allow you to just the T-Maxx size tires. Bodies, nearly anything, T-Maxx bodies, 1/10 scale touring, I've even ran a HPI Super Nitro F-150.

Oh hey Todd I figure out if you get the Dominator shocks you don't need to mod the body mount the only reason I had to was becasue the MP long shocks are shorter so I used the bottom holes for the body mount for the top mount on the shock.

[WoRlDwAr333]

I find it funny that tower hobbies is selling an MP for $520 RTR and ace is selling the same thing RTR for $230

[rcracerguy]

There not RTR. They just come with the engine. But anyway. What kind of recever battery packs is everyone running? Right now I just have the 4 alkiline batteries,but they only seem to last maybe 2 runs.

[cmracing]

I currently use an Orion 1100 mA 5-cell NIMH receiver pack that lasts at least an hour, if not more. I simply charge it @ 500 mA for about an hour before I go running. I could also leave it charging overnight @ 100 mA so it's ready for the next morning. I see no need for a special NIMH-Ready charger for these packs. Just don't get them hot!

[jives]

Originally posted by WoRlDwAr333
I find it funny that tower hobbies is selling an MP for $520 RTR and ace is selling the same thing RTR for $230

The ones from Ace aren't RTR, Ultimate though is selling the RTR for $299.

Originally posted by rcracerguy
What kind of recever battery packs is everyone running? Right now I just have the 4 alkiline batteries,but they only seem to last maybe 2 runs.

Think there was quite a bit of discussion in the pages before. ;)

I can get 6 to 8 runs back to back before I notice it getting low. I usually charge it before I head out and only once have I ever had to charge before I got home, but that was nearly 6 hours worth of driving. :)

[rcracerguy]

What seems to be a good clutch setup? I think the stock one sucks. I slips way to much. Anyone running different shoes or lighter springs?

[toddzilla]

you could set it up leading edge instead of trailing..
i did this on my gt and it really hooked up alot sooner and more aggressively.

[rcracerguy]

I've been tring to do that but I just can't get the shoes on that way. I wondered if the aluminum shoes hook up pretty good?

[vikingdave21]

Still waiting for my new MP. Was wondering has anyone put 8 shocks on thier MP would there be anywhere on the arms and tower to do this.

[WoRlDwAr333]

well you still get the .21 with it so your still saving money...

[Jasio18]

heard someone say that if u reverse the shoes, u'll get a better hook....dunno if its true though :confused:

[fezzy]

I've not seen anyone put 8 shocks on there MP short of doing a full hybrid conversion, its not even needed.... 8 Shocks has no better dampening than 4, it just looks 'cooler', it really is just dead weight.

[vikingdave21]

Well got my MP in. Does anyone have pics of the throttle lingage . the parts i got look differnt from the pics. i was wondering how to hook this up



thanks

[jives]

Originally posted by vikingdave21
Well got my MP in. Does anyone have pics of the throttle linkage . the parts i got look differnt from the pics. i was wondering how to hook this up
thanks

I know this thread is some what long but back up and read it there is lots of good info about getting started and things to avoid down time by neglecting to observe (thread lock). And yes there are pictures of a few throttle linkages at a minimum just scanning for the pics will help you.

[vikingdave21]

almost done with my MP. for some reason mine came with the HYPER 21 8port 2.5hp . cant wait to lite this beast up.

[MMTM]

vikingdave21: where did you order your MP from? I might have to point it out to a few friends if they are using the 8 port now. Might sway their decision.

[vikingdave21]

ace hobbies. for $229.00 and mine can with the 8port GREAT!!!:cool:

[MMTM]

:) Good deal! You basically payed $100 for the truck. No wonder people part them out on ebay. Thanks

[DezRunner]

Just got my MP from Ace on Tuesday. Can't believe what I got for $229! Only 3 tanks through it so far but even with a really rich setting it moves good. I put a Hitech 5645 on the steering and a 605 on the brake and throttle w/6v 1000ma pack. I can lock up the brakes hard enough to flip it. The only thing that was kind wrong with it was the engine was left at TDC from the factory and I had to pull the head and tap the piston down with a dowel. Lots of really good info on this forum that should keep me up and running. Now to finish the break in!

[rcracerguy]

what battery pack is that? I'm not sure what size fits in the box. I want to get a 6 volt pack and that sounds pretty good. So you ordered it from Ace?

[Meesh]

They may make nice stuff but their service sucks.
Ordered two MP diff housings on 10/24. Sent money via PayPal as they requested. Got an acknowledgement from PayPal but nothing from SABR. Several E:mails (10/30) later got a reply saying they had shipped on the 24th, the day I ordered. Got nothing By 10/31 (Ilive in Mass.) sent them another E:mail, no response, then another, still no response. Finally called them this week on Tuesday Nov 5th. Was told that shipments were delayed and that they had not shipped until friday 11/01,

Today is 11/07 and I still have nothing. They suck. I have never had this much trouble with any vendor on the internet and I have bought items worth over $4,000.00.

Stay away from these guys!!!!.:mad: :mad: :mad:

[pops5486]

Im gonna be ordering the monster pirate soon and have a couple of questions:
1. Would it be a better investment to get the 2 speed tranny or upgrade to hyper .21 8 port
2. Will a hitec servo fit with out changing the clip into an airtronics reciever

Thanks

[robc]

I have a Monster pirate with the 8-port in it and while it is an unbelievable engine I think your first upgrade should be the suspension. Get a Dominator front shock tower or a Titanium tall front tower from SABR and buy a set of Hyper 7 rear shocks for the front of your MP. You can get the Dom shock tower and a set of Hyper 7 rears from ace-hobbies.com for about $50 shipped. I run the Hyper 7 long shocks front and rear, (I did this 6 months before the Dominator came out). The stock Hyper is very strong and you shouldn't upgrade until you've worn it out. I hope you are getting the 80% MP kit from ace-hobbies.com At $229 it is a total steal. I have never felt the need for the 2-speed and a lot of the MPer's on the forums say that it's a waste if you bash on rough terrain. My MP with the 8-port and Dom MT3 splits and tires absolutely screams, the stock tires are huge and great fun to look at but the Dom tires really improve handling and jumping. Good luck.

[jives]

Originally posted by rcracerguy
what battery pack is that? I'm not sure what size fits in the box. I want to get a 6 volt pack and that sounds pretty good. So you ordered it from Ace?

I got my pack for tower, a few pages back I listed the part number it's the Trinity flat "on-road" pack it fits great in that low long part of the MP radio box.

Originally posted by pops5486
Im gonna be ordering the monster pirate soon and have a couple of questions:
1. Would it be a better investment to get the 2 speed tranny or upgrade to hyper .21 8 port
2. Will a hitec servo fit with out changing the clip into an airtronics reciever

Thanks

#1 for lots of off road action I’d say stay away from the 2 speed JMO. The .21 Hyper is a great engine like robc said. I’d use it till its dead then might look at the 8 port or other engine. If you got a bit of extra cash for upgrades right off the bat, Dominator shock tower and long shocks for the front and/or aluminum front diff Supports if you plan to keep with the stock tires. Nearly all my problem have come for lack of thread locking or broken parts up front once I beef up the front broken parts become a few and far between experience.

#2 if your receiver has “Z” Airtronics they should

[vikingdave21]

Originally posted by pops5486
Im gonna be ordering the monster pirate soon and have a couple of questions:
1. Would it be a better investment to get the 2 speed tranny or upgrade to hyper .21 8 port
2. Will a hitec servo fit with out changing the clip into an airtronics reciever

Thanks


pops, i got my MP in tuesday from ace-hobbies and mine came with the HYPER-21 8 port . i don't know if that was a mistake or not but i think they come with that engine now if you order from ace.

does anyone know about clutch shims? i only had HPI cars before and never heard of clutch shims. i put my MP together with out any shims. will the clutch still work. and does any company make a easyier clutch to put together ?i had a heck of a time putting this one on.


Thanks

[vikingdave21]

one more ? can the white wheels be dyed.


thanks

this forum is great!! and helpful. :)

[pops5486]

Thanks vikingdave21, jives, robc. I am ordering the kit w/engine from Ace-hobbies, maybe it will come with the 8-port who knows. I am also gonna get two of the hitec servo's with 133oz torque...it maybe overkill for the throttle/brakes but at 40 bucks i'd rather be on the safe side...I am going to purchase the suspension upgrades y'all said to but i am gonna wait on the tires because i'm in upstate NY and figure since its already started to snow maybe the huge tires will come in handy..thanks again...im sure i will have more questions in a couple of days

[jives]

Originally posted by vikingdave21
one more ? can the white wheels be dyed.


I found this thread talking about dying the stock wheels they didn't have good luck with it I guess.
http://www.radiocontrolzone.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=24916

People were able to dye the SST wheels but I haven't read about anyone doing the MT3.

Originally posted by pops5486
since its already started to snow maybe the huge tires will come in handy.

http://www.ofna.com/videogallery.html

Part 4 is My MP in snow ;)

PITSTAIN_RC has some Snow video as well
http://www.networktechniques.com/images/SNOW_PIRATE_MPG_01.mpg

midmadn
http://home.csumb.edu/d/davidsonzackr/world/mp/movies/mpwcollari.mpeg

[robc]

Absolutely the stock rims will dye great. I used Rit liquid purple dye on my stockers and they are an excellent dark purple. I used black Rit dye on my MT3 splits (dom) and they are jet black and look awesome. Get a big pot of water, heat to a boil, turn off the heat and drop your rims in. The longer you leave them in( I did for 15 minutes) , the darker they get, then carefully lift them out with tongs and run cold water on them. Some guys like the Rit powder dye, the liquid is about $3, the powder about $2.

[robc]

Very good suggestion from Jives. Get out the loctite!!!! Every metal to metal screw gets blue loctite. The allen or "grub"screws that hold the drive cups in place should get red loctite. Also the pullstart screws and the motor mounts with blue. It may take a few hours but it will save you grief and you will learn more about your MP. No shimms needed for the clutch and yes those clutch springs are a pain the first time.

[fezzy]

I agree, those drivecup grub screws are a pain in the arse! I've had both of the front ones come loose on many occasion, its very annoying. This said i haven't had one come loose on me in a while *touch wood* and i have only ever used blue loctite so at least i'l be able to take them out WHEN needed. After loosing one set of engine mounts not long ago to loads of tightening and loctite i this time decided not to use loctite and to just tighten the nuts up each with the included rubbish cast spanner to the point where i could not tighten them anymore with reasonable force, then with a T-Wrench I tightened them another 1/16 of a turn, and after running last weeks bash i had NO problems.. Just make sure you check them after every run. If you do have problems with that method then just use loctite.

[jives]

fezzy,

If I think my stuff is getting to "gummy" from all the Thread lock I just pull them off and throw them in a Ultrasonic with water and a mid cleaner (Simple Green or orange power) or if need be a little acetone.

Yeah I probity should change my name to Loctite :) but many times I think I’ve broke something it’s just come loose, or if I do break something many times it was casued by something coming loose.

[vikingdave21]

Thanks for all the info. NOW ! it's back to my MP!! :cool:

[jives]

# 18001 ??

Ok I've been slowly picking thru my MP finding all the worn/broken parts. I found one of my diffs has a cracked "cap" (it's the small side of the diff casing) so I grab my parts sheet, 18001 is the diff casing, only 18001 is the aluminum one and mine are plastic; Steel gears inside with a plastic shell. No big deal I’ll just get the aluminum one but all the pic I’ve found (Ace and Tower) only show the one side, does it come with the “cap” as well?

[MMTM]

That should be for a diff case. They replaced the plastic part with the aluminum case so that should be all you need.

[jives]

Thx after looking closer I see what they did; it looks like they made two more equal halves instead of the 1 large plastic piece and small end. I ordered a set from Ace so hopefully with all the parts I ordered form ace and tower I can get my MP back in action for this weekend.

Ok another question, anyone got a compression gauge? or have any idea what a “good” compression number (PSI) for the hyper would be? I think my Hyper is wearing out after I went back and looked at some of the video I shot when it was new I can tell it doesn’t have nearly as much power. I ordered a Compression gauge to check it before I either buy a new engine or rebuild it but since I have no base line I’m not sure how usefully buying it is going to be. :)

[nrs42racer]

Have this engine installed in my MP, have it broken in, and the copper carb screw setting is 4 turns in from flush. I still get a great deal of smoke when throttling, anyone else have a different setting after break in? Thanks JS

[rcracerguy]

I know a couple pages page people posted about recever batterys,but I didn't see what kind of run time people are getting off of them. Could you give some exsamples of run time off them? and what mah you are using?

Thanks

[cmracing]

The run time you get out of receiver packs can vary greatly. It depends on the type of servos you are using, how much steering you are doing, and the mAH rating of your pack. Don't even try to use Dry Cells (Alkalines). I wouldn't even bother with normal NICAD's either. Get yourself a 1000 mAH 5-cell (6-volt) NIMH pack as a minimum. The higher the mAH the better. I use a Hitec Digital Servo for steering and a "normal" servo for the throttle/brake. I would say I get at least 6 tanks out of a single charge. That is a lot of run time. If you ever notice the steering getting lazy then stop IMMEDIATELY! Too many times I have seen people try to get their car/truck to come back to them, only to lose radio control of it and see it blasting in whatever direction it was last pointing! :mad:

[MMTM]

I'm not sure about run time from my Rx pack. I prefer not to let it go dead! :D

[fezzy]

Same here MMTM, Everytime i use it i stick it on a 1A Fast Charge and it auto cuts off onto a trickle when its done!

[nmtr13]

could you put buggy tires on the mp?

[cmracing]

You could, but the gearing would be way off. You would need to go up a few teeth on the clutchbell or your top-end speed would severely suffer! You don't have a lot of options with lowering the spur gear on this truck very easily.

[PCC]

When my buddy was breaking in the engine in his Pirate I loaned him a set of well worn buggy tires so that he wouldn't have to worry about putting too much strain on his new engine. When he was leaning the engine for power with those tires, you could tell that it was way under geared.

[jives]

Buggy tires will fit and yeah it'd be under geared but you could just go with a bigger clutch bell since a different spur might be a bit tougher to find.

OFN1040* from 12T to 18T

[fezzy]

Um, Correct me if i'm wrong but don't you need a smaller clutchbell and bigger spur to increase the low end? Otherwise how is it going to turn the big meats?.

Just wondering cause everyone has said get a bigger clutchbell.

[jives]

Originally posted by fezzy
Um, Correct me if i'm wrong but don't you need a smaller clutchbell and bigger spur to increase the low end? Otherwise how is it going to turn the big meats?.

Just wondering cause everyone has said get a bigger clutchbell.

I'm talking about putting buggy tires on the MP a lot smaller tire compared to the Stock MP tires.

Yeah a smaller clutch and bigger spur will increase low end, but with buggy tires on there I don't think you's want any more low end?

[fezzy]

heh, Soz I, Got my wires crossed! Thought he meant MP tyres on a buggy :o

:D

[vikingdave21]

i know this is the wrong forum for this but does anyone have any hop ups or stuff for the pirate they like to trade for the HPI Rush.




Thanks

[jives]

Originally posted by fezzy
heh, Soz I, Got my wires crossed! Thought he meant MP tyres on a buggy :o

:D

NP ;)

On a side note I did try out the MT3 on my Ultra LX Pro other than a total lack of steering with the stock servo I think it worked well. For bashing it gave it more ground clearance and definitely increase the stability in high speed turns, I’ve dropped a Hi-TQ servo in there now but have yet to try them again.

[toddzilla]

did some maintenance on the old mp tonight.. last time i ran it, it seemed like the clutch was slipping alot.. took it apart and the shoes are trashed, gonna pick some up tomorrow.. finally got around to installing my slipper clutch though, hope it helps cause i can sure hear the diffs hit when i'm runnin it hard over bumps and stuff. i ordered a new set of front bulkheads from ace hobbies, along with what i thought was the revised front tower for the mp.. i explicitly told the guy on the phone i didn't want to have to buy new shocks to use the shock tower.. of course when i got it it was the dominator tower where you have to use long shocks... why are people so damn stupid?!!!??? as a temporary fix i sandwiched both towers on it so the hinge pins are captured and i mounted the shocks on the old tower's mounting brackets.. really annoying.:rolleyes: didn't really wanna spend the money for the new front shocks just yet since i just blew 75 bucks on a slipper clutch for it..

[jives]

I didn't believe there was a version just for the MP that captures the top pins but let you use the stock short shock, got a part number?

Could you just drill some holes lower for the short shocks? I tried to use the short shocks at first but gave up and built the long shock because I already had the parts.

[cmracing]

Listen, ypu wpuld be much better off running the long shocks instead of the short shocks. You can pick up this stuff of Ebay too if you look around. I, for one, have been selling this stuff at very good prices, but there are others too. Look around and save yourself money like the rest of us have.

[FrankT]

Hello,anyone no where I can still get a great price on a monster pirate still...
THanks

[fezzy]

http://www.nitrohouse.com has them for $250 i believe.

[vikingdave21]

ace-hobbies $229.00 super price

[cmracing]

Ace had them at that price, but not anymore. :(

[FrankT]

Thanks just ordered one

[toddzilla]

i know its better to use the long shocks, i just don't wanna spend another 40 bucks on something i can do without for a while..

bought aluminum clutch shoes from mugen to replace my stockers.. jesus what a complete !@#$%!$ ripoff.. 21 dollars for 10 cents worth of aluminum!!!


some of these parts are just a total screw job..

[jives]

Sometimes “Upgrade” parts really aren’t, just because something is aluminum doesn’t mean its better.

I’ve ordered a set of the Ofna aluminum shoes to try, so I guess I’ll see how I like them.

[cmracing]

Check-out the people selling stuff on Ebay. You can get a complete set of shocks, brand-new never used, for $20 at times. That will give you the two long shocks you need. You can also get the rear shock tower on Ebay.:D I don't want to advertise the fact that I am one of the people doing this, so just look around. ;)

[Hudler]

Can you use the rear shock tower from the mp on the front end of a mp with little or no modification? Would this let you use the longer rear shocks from a mp on the front? What would be involved for modification to do this or is their another way to get longer shocks on the front?

[jives]

Go back in the thread (few pages maybe) I posted how I'm running the rear MP shocks up front, with just the Dominator shock tower and slight moding.

[toddzilla]

put the aluminum shoes in , they hook up really good, i have to switch to trailing edge cause now it hooks up too early compared to the stock material, but i'm happy with em and i hope they last longer than the stock ones did (half gallon or so)

any of you guys do any kind of rollbar or something to prevent the body from cracking in the middle from landing on the lid ?

i know the stock body isn't very robust, but if i could make some kind of rollbar where the body doesn't take all the pressure i think it might last alot longer than it does.. my stocker is already pretty trashed..

[fezzy]

http://www.neweramodels.com Make a roll bar for the MP.

[toddzilla]

any of you guys have the upgraded diffs? i picked up one on ebay for cheap (35 bucks !) and the damn ring gear is stripped on one of the bolts.. anyway how do you tell if it is the upgraded one, i compared it to my stock diff and it really didn't look any different other than being a little bit shinier..

[FrankT]

hello everyone..I should be getting my monster piate in a couple days and was just thinking about engines.I no it comes with the 21 hyper,but what do think about that new .25 in it.could the pirate handle a little extra power,is the .25 realiable and easy to tune.would it bolt right in.....any info would be great
Thanks Frank

[Meesh]

I got my parts, all is well. It seems they were having ISP problems. :)

[jives]

Originally posted by FrankT
could the pirate handle a little extra power,

Can the Pirate Handle power?

http://home.csumb.edu/d/davidsonzackr/world/mp/movies/index.shtml

Collari .21, .50 Heli or even .70 the MP has some pretty tough drive lines. :)

Todd,

No Idea on the diffs, there are a few "Upgrade" Diffs; my diff cases were Plastic so any Aluminum ones are a upgrade for me but people who all ready had (18001) Aluminum Diff would have to go to the CNC or the torsen Diffs to be "upgraded" I think.

Now which part is striped? on of the threaded holes that the diff case bolt go through to hold the ring gear on?

[toddzilla]

the threaded holes in the ring gear are stripped. not completely, but you can't really tighten down the screw sufficiently to make sure it doesn't wobble.. i emailed the guy i bought it from and he hasn't emailed me back .. i'm gonna email him again but i'm not holding my breath. i didn't reallyy need the upgrade, but for 35 bucks i couldn't pass it up since new its like 90 something..

[cmracing]

I know this isn't the place to say this, but if you look on Ebay you will see that I, among many others, have been selling Monster Pirate parts really cheap. Look next week again if you want some bargains. $35 for just a diff? I sold complete front and rear assemblies for not much more than that, and they have the new Aluminum Diffs in them.

[toddzilla]

this wasn't just the diff..


http://cgi.e*b*a*y.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=19168&item=1779221850&rd=1

[Jasio18]

I asked this once before but never got an answer.

I want a rechargable pack for my electronics. I want a pack that will last me long and deliver enough power.

Can I only use a 6volt pack or can I go up to lets say 7.2 or maybe even 12 volt???
If I go higher, will it damage my electronics?

Help anyone...
Also a website with one of those for cheap would be nice
:D

[fezzy]

LOL! 12v! You could make a trailer and tow it!!

Trust me, 6v is all you'l ever need.... You need a 6v flatpack for the MP

[Coconut]

If you have never used a six volt recharable pack you will be surprised. Compared to alkaline that will test (four) 6volts with no load but drop voltage fast when placed under a load. Also you will find agood pack will peak at 7+ volts and be above 6 volts for along time. I hyave seen 1/5th scale guys use 7.2 volts with futuba gear ;so the they can use one instaed of two servos for steering. It is at the least harder on servo motors and really not needed with a good servo on even MTs.

[toddzilla]

i had to swap out my throttle servo because it wouldn't work with 6 volts, it just sat there and glitched..

i use a 6 volt homemade hump pack(3 on the bottom, one on top) and it fits fine in the box along with my failsafe and receiver box.

[ntc3racer]

Hey guys, I just had an offer for a stock mp for 200 cod rtr. What do you guys think? Good deal or what?! :-)

[fezzy]

Todd, You may need to purchase a Y-Lead. Sometimes if your running a high torque servo for steering and a standard for throttle the high torque servo 'hogs' all the power so when the battery starts to die down the throttle servo begins to glitch quite bad because it doesn't have enough power. A Y-Lead basically divides the power equally among the high torque and throttle servo

[NitroCrackers]

i bought the powerline carbon shock towers for my mp and i just rrealized they were broken. well bent and cracking. i just spent 25 bucks on it too although iv had them for 2.5 mons. jees!!!
&^%$#D@)_*( im really mad right now considering that im only 15 dont have a job, my 2 speed is always being chewed up and im using a 2 speed, i need a new gastank, new shock towers, and maby some new engine mounts, im not really sure whats eating the gears(maby the engine mounts are bent????

[toddzilla]

fezzy, my servos work fine now, i think it was just the old servo i used for throttle.. didn't even have a brand name on it. i put a new hobbico standard in it and it works fine, even does nose wheelies:D


i picked up a new body on ebay and repainted it last night.. here's some pics. the masking didn't go as planned as i got some bleed through, i was too cheap to buy any good masking stuff and just used some regular old masking tape. the stock bodies suck for durability so i didn't want to blow any real money on it and just used whatever i had laying around. i like the scheme though, and when i get a good pro-line or whatever body i think i'll do it up right with a purchased paint mask and all..

http://www.ericallenogle.com/todd/newpaint.jpg
http://www.ericallenogle.com/todd/newpaint1.jpg
http://www.ericallenogle.com/todd/newpaint2.jpg
http://www.ericallenogle.com/todd/newpaint3.jpg

[Jasio18]

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[Jasio18]

Originally posted by NitroCrackers
i bought the powerline carbon shock towers for my mp and i just rrealized they were broken.


Umm...if I am correct, carbon fiber doesn't bend but it breaks....like this guy i know had a carbon fiber hood on his car ( a real one...) and he got into a crash....the hood broke into a million pieces...
but what do i know....i am just a newbie in MT

[pops5486]

Ok i tried to break in my titan today and am having some problems: 1st off as soon as I start the engine the fail safe goes on and off I have no control of the thing, secondly when i do have control as soon as i hit the gas it shuts off...this isnt my first gas car but i am stumped...any suggestions? I checked everything and cant figure it out...please help

[NitroCrackers]

ummmm, its bent to the point to where its splintering

[toddzilla]

unplug the failsafe..mine acts goofy sometimes so occasionallyy i unplug it and bypass it.

make sure its getting enough fuel-maybe richen up the low speed needle a little-also make sure that its warmed up a little (15 seconds or so) before you start trying to give it gas, its cold out and these engines take a little time before you can start revving them up.

[jives]

Originally posted by pops5486
Ok i tried to break in my titan...

Titan? :confused: MP Forum?

Warming up might help, if it's cold out richen the mix up for sure, roll onto the throttle don't hammer it, the .25 seems touchy about this at first. Break in calls for 3 turns out if I remember right I think I'm running 3.5 now after 8 tanks or so casue of the cooler weather. Just about anytime I get out my LX Pro (which has the .25) I have to adjust the high needle to stop that but once it's set it's good for the day.

[pops5486]

Thanks for the advice...sorry about the post in the mp forum...earlier was thinking about getting an mp and got some good advice from people here, thats why i posted

[Philly's Finest]

i want to get one of these trucks for x-mass. i would like to know how much of a factor the slipper plays on the Dom? does it make the dom worth the extra 150 bucks? i really like the fact i can get the MP for $250 w/ the engine and i'm working with a really tight budget.

[jives]

Originally posted by pops5486
Thanks for the advice...sorry about the post in the mp forum...earlier was thinking about getting an mp and got some good advice from people here, thats why i posted

I figured after I read the same post in the Titan forum. Did you get it to run better?

Originally posted by Philly's Finest
i want to get one of these trucks for x-mass. i would like to know how much of a factor the slipper plays on the Dom? does it make the dom worth the extra 150 bucks? i really like the fact i can get the MP for $250 w/ the engine and i'm working with a really tight budget.

The Dominator is more than just a slippery add-on; the front and rear shock are different along with the front shock tower and rims a tires (maybe more not sure at all the differences). Slippery $75, Shocks $40 a set, shock tower $12, Rims and tires $60, so yeah it’s more than $150 worth of stuff. I know you said tight budget so how much you think you can spend for repairs? The MP is cheaper to start but the front end is a bit weak so you’ll break more parts, mainly front bulkheads. The Dominator is probity the better value, I’ve done a partial MP to Dom conversion just the front shock tower and long shocks up front have saved considerably on broken parts.

[pops5486]

Yea I finished breaking it in yesterday...i just disconnected the failsafe for now cause i was to anxious to run the thing...only ran one tank after it was broken in and it ripped up every surface I put it one...besides some of the finishing touches and the instruction booklet (half the pages are upsidedown and what isnt is basically unreadable) ofna did a great job with this truck...im really happy with it

[ExtremeRCR]

I am new to the MP scene. Ijust started breaking in the Hyper 21, everything is going great wit hit. I was wondering what hole you guys are using on the servo saver to connect the linkage. I am using a Tower Hobbiers servo with 133 oz. torque w/ 4 alkalines (I will get a 6V NIMH soon). I am asking this question because the current batteries do not allow me to give an accurate assessment of how much torque I have to work with.

[jives]

I got about the same servo as you do I run the middle hole the far outside one moved a little too far and I keep hitting the pipe with the tire and my contoller doesn't have EPA so the steering would reach the end of travel but the servo would try to keep going.

[ExtremeRCR]

Thanks jives

I am a little confused. Are you referring to the servo arm or the servo saver (on the truck)? If you move to the outside hole on the servo saver (on the truck) that will actually decrease steering movement, but increase torque. The farther you go out on the servo arm the more travel you get. Are you using a 6v NIMH receiver battery?

[toddzilla]

how many of you guys are running the 2 speed tranny? i won one in a contest on another bulletin board and was curious if i should install it or keep the slipper clutch i bought in.. i do alot of bashing, uneven terrain, jumps etc.. i'm pretty ruthless on my truck and i dont wanna fry a 2 speed if its not up to the task..

[jives]

Originally posted by ExtremeRCR
I am a little confused.

So Am I...not sure where I came up with that really rough day at work... :) No I run the closest inside hole on the servo saver and most outside hole on the servo horn. If you run the stock tires it may hit the pipe unless you push the pipe back till it nearly touches the header.

Originally posted by ExtremeRCR
Are you using a 6v NIMH receiver battery?

Yes 1100mAh now but I ran 4 AA for a few months. The NiMH did add a little more power to my turning but mostly it added run time and the ability to simply recharge and not have to tear the receiver box all apart so I could seal it up with some silicone. I think it tells you not to charge in the vehicle but I charged mine and check the temp serveral time it never got hot at the really low charging rate I was doing. I also put a Volt-Watch on my MP so I can see the battery status.

Suffering MP withdraw haven't got to drive mine since Oct 26th figured I ordered parts for both Tower and Ace-hobbies on the 10th got all the parts form tower I needed and I'm still waiting on the parts form Ace. :( Bad thing is if the the Diff cases from Ace I needed first can't even put most of it together without those. Says it shipped the 15th USPS but come-on even the Postal office isn't this slow :confused:

[FrankT]

does anyone have any good pictures on how to build these monster pirate shocks.I just bought the kit and of cousre the instructions really stink......
Thanks Frank

[toddzilla]

either this thread or the dominator thread has some detail on this..
look through and i believe there is a diagram on how to put em together..

[vikingdave21]

it's in the dom. thread .


man!, I just broke in the Hyper 8 port today. damn this thing is unreal . never going back to a 15 engine again. but i do have the tmaxx 2.5 great engine. but this hyper GOD I LOVE IT!!!!!!!!. :D


Give me more power!!!! :eek:

[FrankT]

Thanks I kinda figured it out.....one other thing is That I sold my stock engine and think of getting the .25 engine or the 8 port hyper..what do think ...I want something with a little power but easy to tune...
thanks

[vikingdave21]

Frank, This new hyper 8 port is unreal. i had it idle for a whole tank of fuel then hit the gas man!! . it idle's better then my F150 j/k. i don't know a whole lot about the 21 engine yet but what i seen from my 8 port so far is awsome!! you didn't need to sell the 8 port.



IT RIPPPPPSSS!!

[FrankT]

I did'nt it was the regular hyper .21 with the black head

[rcracerguy]

How much problem is people having with the recoil when it's cold. Do you all have to heat it up for it to work. Mine will not work at all unleast I heat it up quit a bit.

[cmracing]

There is a manual for the Pirate in your kit, read that. Those instructions are pretty good and show you how to build the shocks. Yeah, they leave a lot to be desired, but the "Intructions" for the Monster Pirate are pitiful at best! Ofna should be ashamed of themselves to include that blow-up drawing and call it an instruction sheet! Good luck with the kit.

[Coconut]

Ya;OFNA instruction sheets are bad. I don't mind the no step by stepbut would like a listing of fasteners used and where. Since its a pre-built;no problem figuring it out. It definitely isn't a truck for newbie. Easy to work on though;as long as your familar with RC vehicles.

[toddzilla]

my pull start spring snapped yesterday. oh well, at least it ran enough to show it off , but not enough to deal with everyone wanting to drive it :D

[cxdxh]

I just got my Dominator/Pirate (pirate with dom shock towers) and i cant seem to figure out how to set the brake... all i can figure now is that i took off the brake linkage and zip-tied the brake thing to the center aluminum spur gear cover so that i have somewhat brakes so i dont loose control... can anyone give me a pic of their linkage? and whats a good servo to run for throttle? it seems as if i put the linkage up i get brakes but it messes up my throttle settings... GRRR! any help at all would be appreciated... thanks

[rcracerguy]

Hey does anyone know if you can get the MP with just the motor for a good price. My friend is thinking about getting one but I can only find RTR anymore.

[FrankT]

I just got mine with motor $250 ,from nitro house...but I think there out of them.give them a call.

[jives]

Originally posted by cxdxh
I just got my Dominator/Pirate (pirate with dom shock towers) and i cant seem to figure out how to set the brake... all i can figure now is that i took off the brake linkage and zip-tied the brake thing to the center aluminum spur gear cover so that i have somewhat brakes so i dont loose control... can anyone give me a pic of their linkage? and whats a good servo to run for throttle? it seems as if i put the linkage up i get brakes but it messes up my throttle settings... GRRR! any help at all would be appreciated... thanks

http://www.radiocontrolzone.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=35819&perpage=40&pagenumber=3

Page three of this forum scroll down to the Post with Pics from MMTM.

Hey Todd those Aluminum shoes mad grip for sure...I was able to pull the front end off the ground for a very short time well just until it stripped my spur gear out.

[Coconut]

Originally posted by cxdxh
I just got my Dominator/Pirate (pirate with dom shock towers) and i cant seem to figure out how to set the brake... all i can figure now is that i took off the brake linkage and zip-tied the brake thing to the center aluminum spur gear cover so that i have somewhat brakes so i dont loose control... can anyone give me a pic of their linkage? and whats a good servo to run for throttle? it seems as if i put the linkage up i get brakes but it messes up my throttle settings... GRRR! any help at all would be appreciated... thanks You need to set the brakes so that youn get the amount of breaking you want. I always find it a good idea to use a small piece of fuel tubing on limkage so that it cushions the brake application. Basically adjust the throttle linkage so that carb fully opens and closes. then adjust the brake linkage for amount of pressure you want on brakes. Do not try to adjust the braeks or throttle with trim;youmust do it with the linkage. if you try to do it with radio trim it will effect the other.

[robc]

www.ace-hobbies.com has the MP RTR for $359 which is a very good price. Tower etc. sell it for over $500. They are out of the 80% kits though.

[rc/guitarman69]

Hey guys just got my MP. I wanted to know what are some good upgrades for a stock mp? Also if you could tell me part numbers that would be cool. Also who makes hopups for the MP? Thanks!!

[fezzy]

Some hop-ups you should consider:

OFNA MT3 Split Rims (OFNA Part #81155 - White or 81154 Green/Yellow)
Proline Maxx Tyres (Variety to choose from to suit your surface)
Longer Drive Cups (OFNA Part #30080) $7.96
Dominator Front Shock Tower (No Part Number) Under $9
Mugen Big Bore Rear Shocks F/R (Part #MUGC0581) $40/Pr (No Springs)

The MT3 Rims and Maxx Sized Proline tyres will give you a much more 'performance' orientated drive and will make the truck handle 10x better, you will still have your stock tyres however when the really hard off-road starts calling. Note that if you switch to Maxx Sized Tyres with these Rims then you WILL need to change your gearing, a 13t clutchbell and 62t steel spur gear are PERFECT for the MP with these sized rims/tyres.... Its the same gearing that comes with the Dominator.

The Longer DriveCups are a MUST, the stock drivecups bind slightly on the ends of the dogbones and can eventually snap the ends clean off, the longer drivecups from the 'Ultra' series buggies cures this instantly.

In having the Dominator Front shock tower you will instantly beef up the front end of your truck 10 fold, the Dominator power secures the hinge pins much more rigidly to help prevent against bent hinge pins and broken suspension arms. Not only this but it allows you to mount longer shocks up front (Mugen Big Bores, Hyper7 Rear Shocks, OFNA 9.5 Rear Shocks) to give you a much more competent dampening setup.

The Mugen Big Bore shocks are really to couple with your Domiantor Front Tower, they wont fit the stock Front Shock Tower but will the rear..... When you put a pair of these babies on your Dominator Front Tower and to the rear of your existing tower you are instantly going to get much better suspension to soak up the race track, off-road terrain or tarmac that you can throw at them.

If you want to go even further than that then a company named SaBR (Smash and Bash Racing) offer a wide range of very strong, lightweight titanium plates to bulletproof your MP. If you want even more strength and want to make your MP look even better then OFNA make some beaitfully made CNC Aluminium Components, As an alternative Powerline Racing also make some Aluminium bits but from other peoples opinions are not as strong or as high quality as OFNA's. If you want more speed out of your stock engine then without a doubt go and get a 2-Speed, It will turn your MP into a flying machine even with the stock 4-Port Hyper21, If you want even MORE speed then consider getting a new engine, depending on what you want there is an engine for you.

The list is endless but at least you'l have some idea of what you can achieve with your new MP, Congratulations on your purchase. You wont be sorry.

[jives]

Originally posted by fezzy
Some hop-ups you should consider:

OFNA MT3 Split Rims (OFNA Part #81155 - White or 81154 Green/Yellow)
Proline Maxx Tyres (Variety to choose from to suit your surface)
Longer Drive Cups (OFNA Part #30080) $7.96
Dominator Front Shock Tower (No Part Number) Under $9
Mugen Big Bore Rear Shocks F/R (Part #MUGC0581) $40/Pr (No Springs)

I'll second that list as well for about all the same reasons.

On the shocks I think the Dominator comes with hyper 7 shocks but in any case you can get the Dominator shocks >$40 a pair with the springs. If your budget allows all four would be great but if it's tight like most I'd aim most of my effort at the front end, with the shock tower and long shocks up front. #18624

Drive Cups, I did have trouble with one side of my front coming out, rears never gave me any trouble, I have since put long drive cups all the way round just in case.

MT3, I have a set with the Ofna tires I still like the Stock tires, for the driving I like to do ground clearance helps. Chrome #81153

Just a hint on part numbers for some parts just replace the third digit in the stock part number with a 6 for the dominator parts. Stock Front tower 18024, Dominator 18624, etc.

Side note everyone seen the the info about free stuff from Ofna if you but the Proline upgrade?
http://www.ofna.com

[Coconut]

Rather than buy the hyper seven shocks;I would suggest the UE engineering Super shocks which are 9.5 threaded body shocks'with titanium nitrated shock shafts. They also ahve a slightly shorter shaft length ;so the piston does not touch the bladders. Stormerhobbies has set of 4 for 82.95. You also might want to checkout the new center Diff's that OFNA just released especially if you race. Paul Coleman was using the Diff as shown in last months RCCA article on his Dominator.

[rc/guitarman69]

What about useing the stock rear shocks for the front? What are wrong with those? Also the dom front shock tower fits in with no mods right? Thanks!

[jives]

Originally posted by rc/guitarman69
What about useing the stock rear shocks for the front? What are wrong with those? Also the dom front shock tower fits in with no mods right? Thanks!

This read is ten very long pages but it's well worth the read.

I run the stock rear shocks up front, it can be done but requires a little moding. see page 7

[oohnoo]

Finally some pics of my SaBR Monster Pirate. Here's some of the details:
Full SaBR Ti-Plates and Ti-Chassis
Hyper21 8-Port w/CrazyNutRacing Head
RB EFRA-9363 Pipe
Hyper7 Rear shocks all around
Kyosho long springs rear/white...blue/front
CVA's front & rear
Lunsford Racing titanium turnbuckles and hinge pins
MT3 Split wheels with Pro-Line Maxx Masher tires
Hyper7 Blue Bearing set
Ofna CNC Steering Knuckles
Ofna Ultra Fuel Tank
Re-shimmed front and rear differentials
Ofna Long drive cups all around
Grumpy Toms Bumpers

Working on adding a Thunder Tiger Pro-70 Monster Motor

I'll post more pics soon.

[oohnoo]

Here's some more

http://pic5.picturetrail.com:80/VOL92/799394/1414737/16515895.jpg

http://pic5.picturetrail.com:80/VOL92/799394/1414737/16515873.jpg

http://pic5.picturetrail.com:80/VOL92/799394/1414737/16515946.jpg

[Meesh]

Here's what it looks like with the EK4 motor




http://pic5.picturetrail.com:80/VOL92/800986/1418510/16574992.jpg

[FrankT]

Hello just wondering about how easy the hyper 8 port is too tune.I really don't have experiance tuning a 3 needle carb.all the motor's that I've had were 2 needle. and can anyone tell me if that new extented pro-line F350 body would work for the monster pirate..here is a picture ,almost complete.
Thanks for the help
Frank:)

[DezRunner]

The F350 body fits great. http://www.radiocontrolzone.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=104513

[FrankT]

Thanks dezrunner

[Nuke]

Originally posted by jives
Shocks
18621 for a complete pair of Dominator shocks
or
18030 and 18029 and 18033 build another set of rears (well really all 4)

18624 is the Shock tower

18019 is the diff supports
http://www2.gpmd.com/image/o/ofnc1819.jpg
^^^
These are like the ones I have see the "extra" tab in the bottom might chsck if your's had this it does seem to help lower the number of broken diff supports.

I got My MP tore apart at the moment for some heavy cleaning after the mudding :) so If I get to putting the front together tomorrow I'll snap some pics.

I'd like to thank Jives for getting that info out there. I have done this modification successfully.. well sorta. There needs to be one more part added.. at least in my opinion. The setup he has will work, but any jumping or excessive cartwheeling :D will eventually bend the front tower. I found this out after spending a day at the track bashing with my dad and brother. The tower was bent pretty bad, in fact the body would not fit unless it buckled in the middle. It was quite a site, luckily for me, the towers are fairly cheap. I haven't put it on yet, but this part is stock on the Dom. The front chassis brace needs to be extended from the steering plate to the back of the front tower to mirror the back setup. I think the Ofna PN is 18622. I will try this out after the parts come in and post back with results. Post any thoughts/experiences you've had with this.

Thanks guys!

Tom

[jives]

Nuke, Sound sweet I’m open to idea I just mounted the tower and improvised the rest ;)

So far I've never bent the front tower, I've bent the rear tower several times; I just take it off and pound it back flat. At some point I'll probity need to replace it from the repeated strain but other than the body not wanting to fit it’s never caused any other trouble.

I’d have to say a day when you can bend the front shock tower without breaking a diff support or arm before is a very good day. :)

[MMTM]

Frank. Tune the Hyper just like any other 2 needle carb. The middle needle just needs to be left flush. It is my understanding that the Mid-range needle is more like a set screw (in relation to the low end needle). Leave the mid flush and tune as any other 2 needle.

[FrankT]

Thanks MMTM

[Nuke]

After owning my MP for about 4 months and getting about 2 gallons through the engine without breaking anything, I decided to upgrade some stuff. Got the Dom wheels and tires, Paris AL650 tuned pipe. After that stuff starting bending and breaking. After having some fun on the neighbors skateboard ramp, I found the shorties up front were too weak. I bent a shock shaft and broke a diff support. After I got the long fronts in, I split a front CVD up front on the very next run. The crappy thing is, I have to order all my stuff online. No LHS carries any Ofna stuff around here. Anywho, after I get all that fixed and install a new gas tank cause mine was leaking, I was running up the street with my dad and bro's MP's. Not a 1/2 tank into it, I clip a mail box. Man, what crap luck :( I walk over to see the damage, and I found the upper arm bolt was sheared off. The arm and support were fine, but the bolt was cut cleanly. That caused the whole front suspension on that side the come loose and proceed to demolish my brand new pipe and shatter my new gas tank (this was it's first tank of fuel mind you!) Needless to say, an airplane fuel tank and many zip ties later... I was out at the track bending some shock towers :) It's funny how landing on the body mounts can do that.. hehe :D
OK, sorry.. had to get that outta my system. Sorry for the rant, just one of those ironic stories. Hopefully I got all this breaking parts outta my system. I'll let you know how the support works out.

Later!
Tom

[jives]

Following the first weekend I had my MP I place two orders for around $150 each just to fix/repair/improve the parts I broke.

Pull starter, Diff support, CVA, arm, body mounts, front shocks...

Oh Mail boxes I have one in front of my house that I think I've hit with just about every car I own plus my cousin have taken their fair share of whacks at it to, I swear I will build an RC capable of taking it out someday :)

[FrankT]

hello everyone,by changing my tires to the dominator ones,will I need to change my gearing.if so what parts will I need...if you have any part # that would be great ....Thanks:)

[FrankT]

also as you can see in the picture ,I'm almost done my truck is there anything else that maybe I can do to make this awesome.
-I put the dominator wheels and tires
-drilled the shocks
I'm going to order the hyper 21 8port and paris al650 pipe
-fuel filter

Thanks Frank

[Meesh]

http://pic5.picturetrail.com:80/VOL92/800986/1418510/16574713.jpg


http://pic5.picturetrail.com:80/VOL92/800986/1418510/16574708.jpg

[Meesh]

http://pic5.picturetrail.com:80/VOL92/800986/1418510/16574676.jpg

http://pic5.picturetrail.com:80/VOL92/800986/1418510/16574986.jpg

:D :D :D :D :)

[Nuke]

Originally posted by FrankT
hello everyone,by changing my tires to the dominator ones,will I need to change my gearing.if so what parts will I need...if you have any part # that would be great ....Thanks:)


It's not required to change the gearing for the Dom wheels/tires, in fact the change will give you a bit more bottom end while scrubbing a little top speed. The AL650 should make up for any topend loss though, at least in my case it seems even faster (I did both mods at the same time). You'll love how the truck handles with the new tires, it's like getting a new truck. I was blown away by how much better it handled without having 4 steamrollers for wheels :D Just watch out for those mailboxes...

I love the way that blue body is painted!! Perfect match for all the blue anodized parts! It's too clean though, go get that thing dirty!! LOL

[oohnoo]

HiHo Meesh
Extremely sweet looking truck! The blue aluminum parts and the truck look so good together. and that MONSTER PRO-70 MOTOR! How do you keep it on the ground! Let us know how everything holds together. Does that have the single or 2 speed in it? Curious how fast it is...

[Meesh]

Hi Bob

Thanks for the Kudos.


Single speed for now but I plan on changing that after the Holidays.

No speed runs yet. I;m still breaking in the NEW motor!:)

[fezzy]

If your going to Maxx Sized Rubber with the MT3 Rims you WILL need to change your gearing to get a more 'useable' speed balance. A Straight swap will give you way more low end and with the AL650 EVEN MORE low end, The 650 is ALL about TORQUE. When i got my Dom it came with MP Gearing (One of the first batch ones) and with my 1-Piece pipe the low end was amazing but top end was pathetic, it had so much lowend it would wheelie, after going up to a 62t spur which it should of come with and a 14t bell the low end pickup is great, it accelerates very smoothly and the top end is fantastic, if your doing more off-road than on-road get a 13t bell though.

The stock Dominator gearing is a 62t steel spur and 13t clutchbell, thats the gearing you should use with the Maxx Sized Tyres.

Meesh, beautiful looking truck my friend.... As the other guys said, keep is in the know on those diffs! Are they stock? What about dogbones in the rear?. What did you need to drop it in, just make new engine mounts?.

[Meesh]

Thanks for the compliment!

The diffs are stock but they are the aluminum housings instead of the plastic ones. I shimmed the ring and pinion gears very carefully. As far as them holding up, time will tell. I only have one slow, rich run on it as the weather has been too cold.

I made my own motor mounts and had to raise up the rear chassis support bar to clear the exhaust header on the EK4 engine. The mounts are .125" higher than stock EK4 to give me a straight shot to the MSJ starter. I'm using the EK4 clutch with MP clutchbell and it seems to work fine. All the blue aluminum parts are from Powerline Racing in New York (US).

[ntc3racer]

That's a great truck! Did you do any other mods for it other then the aluminum hops? You have a future planned for that ruck yet? Just wondering :-D

[Meesh]

Glad you like it. I bought it from ACE when they had them for $229 with the Hyper .21 engine (which I still have).

I also have all the carbon fiber goodies from Powerline Racing that I havent installed yet.

I'm putting a Dominator front shock tower and chassis brace. That will allow me to put my rear shocks on the front and install a new pair of OFNA 9.5 threaded body hard anodized shocks on the rear. A two speed is also in the works for after Xmas.:D

[ntc3racer]

Sounds like a great suspension setup! My MP is also coming soon(hopefully this Saturday) and I am either going to go DOM front suspension mods or go with the proline bulks. I can't dicide between the two because I heard that the maxx suspension will give a higher groud clearance but it's much more expensive and I won't be doing any racing. I don't know, what you think?

[Coconut]

If I may suggest;if going to ofna 9.5 shocks that you get the UNlimited Engineering super shocks instead. The difference is that they have shorter shock shafts. They normally also have shorter bodies but the last batch had the standard 9.5 bodies. In order to use them on the rear and have the chassis bottom out before the shocks bottom out you need to change to shorter rod-end on the shafts. The standard rod-ends from the Dominator work good but you will have to ream them out for the 3.5mm shaft size as well as the bottom retainers. The reason for the shorter shafts is that the early 9.5 shafts tops would strike the bladders when fully compressed. Ofna has lengthened the bodies and changed the caps to give more volume for the bladders and improved bladder support also. You of course could raise the tower mounting but the Dominator suspension reaaly starts to bind the steering if raised too much and and the CVD angle would be very steep.

[NitroCrackers]

would love to post pics but need someone to post them for me, so lemme have ur email adress and ill send them, my truck is still dirty from last run.
:D

[fezzy]

ashtuk@blueyonder.co.uk

[Meesh]

That is what I have. The super shocks from Unlimited Engineering.
I bought a set of 8 for my EK4 but only used 6 so I had them left over.

They are worth the money!;)

[rcracerguy]

Were do you get the 62t main gear to put on the Monster pirate?and do they only come in steel? I would rather just have the plastic type one,because I've never had a problem with the stock 66t one.

[rcracerguy]

I just checked my gearing and it looks like the spur is a 65t and the clutch bell is a 13. I thought they came with 66/12. I guess I was wrong. So that would make the gearing just a bit slower then the dom and a 14t clutch bell would be a little faster. Learn something new everyday.

[MMTM]

You should be fine w/ that stock gearing when you swap tires to Dom / Maxx tires. Most of the gains in performance w/ the smaller tires is from dropping about 1 pound of rotational mass from the tires. The actual diameter of the tires (MP vs. Maxx) is not much different, but the MP tires are very heavy. If you want a little more speed then get either a 62t spur or the 14t bell and you will have the same gearing that pushes the stock Dominator to 38 mph. If you race on a track that extra top speed really isn't needed.

[Nuke]

Where are you guys finding different sized spurs and clutch bells? I can only find the stock ones online.

Tom

[MMTM]

The 62t spur is what comes with the slipper clutch or the new center diff, 65t is stock. For clutch bells call Ace-hobbies.com and they should be able to set you up with anything from 12t-18t for the MP. Really I think for a single speed the 62/14 or 65/15 is about all you will need with a powerfull motor to get some great performance.

[fezzy]

I run 62/14 with my Dominator w/Maxx Mashers, Stock 4-Port Hyper. Low end isn't great, it accelerates quickly and smoothly though and top end is great, I have this combo cause i've been running on tarmac lately.

[PCC]

I know, I know, this isn't the T-Maxx nor the Savage forums, but has anyone ever gotten their Monster Pirate to wheelie? I don't mean bouncing it from a jump and gunning the throttle, I mean from a standstill. I'm just curious if anyone has and what engine they are running. Also, what mods, if any, were done to get this to happen.

[cxdxh]

good question. ide like mine to wheelie also or know if anyone has ever done it

[Meesh]

EK4 .70 engine in it! It's pretty hard to keep the front end on the ground!

http://pic5.picturetrail.com:80/VOL92/800986/1418510/16574983.jpg

[fezzy]

I drool everytime i see your truck, Please stop posting pics of it... My keyboard is going to electricute me soon :D

[Meesh]

I didn't mean it honest! Damnit, there it goes again! :D :D :D

http://pic5.picturetrail.com:80/VOL92/800986/1418510/16574992.jpg

[fezzy]

AAAAAARRRRRGGGGGGGGGHHHHHH

[jives]

Originally posted by PCC
I know, I know, this isn't the T-Maxx nor the Savage forums, but has anyone ever gotten their Monster Pirate to wheelie? I don't mean bouncing it from a jump and gunning the throttle, I mean from a standstill. I'm just curious if anyone has and what engine they are running. Also, what mods, if any, were done to get this to happen.

How about pulling them off the ground rolling on snow? :)

midmadn
http://home.csumb.edu/d/davidsonzackr/world/mp/movies/mpwcollari.mpeg

[toddzilla]

meesh, your truck is far too clean.. :D

[PCC]

Originally posted by Meesh
EK4 .70 engine in it! It's pretty hard to keep the front end on the ground! Yeah, but you cheated! :)

[Meesh]

It only had one tank through it when I took that pic but I've got an EK4 with almost 3 gallons through it that looks just as clean.

[Philly's Finest]

i love a clean truck!! i spend hours cleaning my trucks. and i don't even run in dirt or mud. i'm **** but i'm fresh & clean.:D

[jives]

Originally posted by Philly's Finest
i love a clean truck!! i spend hours cleaning my trucks. and i don't even run in dirt or mud. i'm **** but i'm fresh & clean.:D

Yeah I don't like to get my truck dirty (http://spud.unl.edu/video/mp_mud.mov) either :D

[fezzy]

I'm the same, I clean my Dom all the time and it never see's off-road! Although i wish i could find some

[ExtremeRCR]

Meesh,
How is that 70 geared? I heard it is low on RPM but insane with thew torque.:D

[rcracerguy]

What are you guys using for a starter box? I still have the junk recoil and I'm about ready to get a box. I want to make sure I get one with enough torque. Should I get one with 2 550's or the big 12 volt motor?

[toddzilla]

get the 12 volt, 750 motor, the 550's will work but not recommended. i just bought the ofna 1/8 scale box with the chrome top after my recoil spring snapped thanksgiving.. its soooo much nicer!! i went to a bash in the park today and i found that i had a cracked gas tank, so my truck kept dying quite a bit. i just threw it on the box and fired it up everytime.. if it were pull start i would have just put it away and went home. make sure and get the gel cell and not the two stick packs, gel cell lasts way longer on a charge compared to the stick packs.

[fezzy]

Let me geuss.... Cracked at the very front where it knocks against the front left bellcrank?. I put abit of sticky backed foam onto my tank just over where the crack started to form, I don't think it went all the way through and i've had no problems... But it definetely started.

[Nuke]

I had the same problem! I tried 2 sided foam tape, but it doesn't like to stick to the tank. I zip-tied a section of fuel tubing over the bellcrank, no more cracked tanks! Now if I could just stop those damn mailboxes from crackin my tank! hehe..

[FrankT]

hello everyone ,just making sure I got all the parts that I need.I want to upgrade my monster pirate front suspension to the dominator's.I just got a set of long shocks,what else do I need??just a dominator front shock tower or is there more..
Thanks:)

[fezzy]

that it really, you may want to go and get the longer front brace but the MP one should be fine.

[vikingdave21]

one ? does anybody know if the bumpers from the dom. bolt on to the pirate


thanks


also does anyone have the hyper 8 port . the instruction says 5 to 6 turns for the high speed and i have it down to about 2 1/2 and runs great!!!! but this sounds to lean . any help!!

[fezzy]

The skids will bolt right on, the bumpers though will cause abit of a problem... The rear one will fit fine but the front one you'll need the tall front Dom tower, Long shocks and the Dom front chassis brace.

[FrankT]

do you no the part # I need for the brace and tower..
Thanks:)

[fezzy]

To be honest with you, no i don't... It gets kind of confusing when you have two chassis braces on the market, one for the MP and one for the Dom. Your best bet is to contact Ace Hobbies (http://www.ace-hobbies.com) and they'll be able to help you out.

[jives]

Go back a page Nuke posted what could be the number.

[FrankT]

Ok I'll do that ...Thanks

[morfracerX]

After a few months of being down I put the MP/DOM back together, it had been in a box in my r/c closest split up at one point I had it on ebay(but took it down the next day).

Anyway point being I put her back together and I messed up one of my servo post, anyone have the part number. I looked on nitrohouse but I am not sure if I have the right part number. 19012 pulls up the center brace mounts and the other part number I have pulls up the servo tray, all I want is the servo tray post.

thanks for the help.

[toddzilla]

i looked at my "manual" and i dont see a number by the servo posts at all.. sorry:confused:



and about dirty monster trucks .. look what a month of non- cleaning and a bash-party at the local park has done!! notice the bent rear shock tower and complete lack of body posts, not pictured is the cracked gas tank.. but i had fun!!:D


currently being cleaned and prepped for some xmas hop-ups:p

http://www.ericallenogle.com/todd/dirtymp.jpg

[morfracerX]

Thanks for looking tod, this is funny how am i going to find out how to buy the part if i dont even have a part number?

and man o man that is one dirty pirate.

[Coconut]

I looked at the parts list but description is vague as always. I'd call Ace-hobbies or nitro house they should be able to tell you.

[oohnoo]

HiHo
Why not just get some aluminum stand-offs. Not sure of the height as I'm at work, but they should work fine. They are American threads so make sure you get some screws to go with that also.

[FrankT]

I just ordered a hpyer 8 port, paris AL650 ...and the dominator front suspension ugrade(shocks and tower).my question is on these new dominator shocks do you have to drill them like the original ones..
Thanks Frank

[drader]

I just picked up a Monster Pirate from Ace Hardware Hobbies... the thing is AWESOME!!!! Get this - it came with the Hyper 8 port motor, AND the Dominator front end (Hyper 7 long shocks all the way around). This may be one of the very last batch, because the model is being discontinued; maybe they ran out of the original MP parts. I picked up the RTR version for $359!!!!! It must be Christmas!!!!!! Thank you ACE!!!!!!

[Coconut]

Make sure it says 8 port on top of head as htey change the engine head color on 4port. If not it isn't a 8 port.

[drader]

Like I said: it's an 8 port, and it SCREAMS.

[FrankT]

Hello and happy holidays to everyone....one quit question I need help with ,I got the dominator front shock tower and going to install it.is there anything special I need to do with the hinge pins.or just put the 4 screws in and thats it...
Thanks

[drader]

The upper front hinge pins go through some holes in the Dominator shock tower, to give them strength.

[cxdxh]

WHATS THE PART NUMBER FOR THE DOMINATOR FRONT SHOCK TOWER? THANKS..

CALVIN

[rc/guitarman69]

Hey guys! Do you know where i can get a nut driver for the MPs wheel nuts? Let me know! Thanks!

[jives]

17mm nut driver? Wow never seen one that big.

Maybe it's just me but it'd take some serious grip to torque them down or take them off.

What about like a 17mm socket and one of those screw driver like handles?

[jives]

Originally posted by cxdxh
WHATS THE PART NUMBER FOR THE DOMINATOR FRONT SHOCK TOWER? THANKS..

CALVIN

http://www.radiocontrolzone.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=35819&perpage=40&pagenumber=7

[rc/guitarman69]

Originally posted by jives
17mm nut driver? Wow never seen one that big.

Maybe it's just me but it'd take some serious grip to torque them down or take them off.

What about like a 17mm socket and one of those screw driver like handles?

Yea i got a socket wrench but its a pain to drag every where! But yea it works. Just wanted somthing smaller!

[morfracerX]

there is a sokct like thing that comes with the mp 7.5 that is like a very long socket but has a rod at the end of it. It works great i had one of them but for some odd reason it came up missing one day (wink wink), but with my brother running an mp7.5 now i have another one (wink wink wink)

[morfracerX]

here we go


http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXVC97&P=7

[FrankT]

how is this....is this right
Thanks:)

[cxdxh]

howd you do that frank?

[FrankT]

what part

[cxdxh]

those big ole shock towers.... got any more pics of your truck? close ups? show me more!

[PCC]

Why'd you cut the ears off? The ones that the front upper hingepins are supposed to go through? They help beef up the upper arms so you won't break the front bulkhead as easily. You need the longer upper hingepins for this to work.

[jives]

PCC is right, one of the greatest improvements on the Dom was the captured Hing pins which really cut down breakage.

Also Nuke made a good point about the front brace.
http://www.radiocontrolzone.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=35819&perpage=40&pagenumber=11

[FrankT]

do you no the part number for those pins...and will it be ok for now with out them...
Thanks
Merry Christmas Everyone:)

[cxdxh]

does anyone know the mm hubs on the latest version of the MP ... in getting adapters off ebay that will make it to where i can mount tmaxx tires to the MP, but i need to know the correct hub mm before i do. isnt it 6mm? thanks

[fezzy]

As far as I am aware the drive axles are 8mm and the hexes are definetely 17mm.

Merry Christmas to All!!

[drader]

I was running my MP for the first time today... the thing screams, but after a few short runs - not even jumping - just pavement/hard dirt stuff I snapped a front CVD at the bone/head end. My question is - is the problem the short diff cups, or the lack of slipper? Will getting a slipper help protect the drivetrain? I don't want to lose the clown tires just yet! And by the way - the Hyper 8 port is *magical*!

[fezzy]

I think its more than likely the short drive cups, Part number #30080 from OFNA for the longer drive cups from the Ultra series of buggies.

[cxdxh]

fezzy, since you are one of the many MP gurus, can we see your truck>? give us some pics! thanks

merry santa clause

and mrs santa

calvin

[FrankT]

I need the hinge pin to go threw the dominator shock tower.anyone no the part number or how I can search for it..
Thanks

[whatever]

this question has prolly been asked already but here goes.what are the real differences between the dominator and monster pirate?.or would i be better off just gettin a savage 21?

[Coconut]

I think OFNA calls them front pivot shafts all eight;part 18021. Might want to check description at tower,they may give better info.

[cxdxh]

guys, since its christmas, i think ill share my most valuable thing ive ever had for my dominator and its this.... spread the word cause this is very helpful:


http://www.midmad.com/mp/images/MP%20PartsList.jpg

ps.. if its too small just move the cursor over the pic and youll see a lil arrow in the bottom right corner and that will make it to where you can see everything... :) :) :)

[Coconut]

off top of my head. Dom has new taller front tower;longer front shocks,slipper center,brace goes to front tower, MT3 wheels and tires;different front bumper;differnt gearing to go with maxx size wheels and tires;differeent body,front hinge pins go through front tower for better strength. All I can think of off top of my head. Dominator is way stronger than Savage and is race proven. Standard engine more powerful than under powered savage engine. HYas mostly many aluminum parts , susepnsion is totellly adjuctable,Savage has only toe adjustment and is 11lbs8oz with alot of plastic. If you want to race OFNA has released a center diff and a rear brake which should make even better racer. Won RCCA Maxx challenge against Supermaxxes,and JT racing hybrids. One whale of a .21 truck for price. Needs some OFNA options to be it's best but much less than Savage and others.

[PCC]

Originally posted by FrankT
I need the hinge pin to go threw the dominator shock tower.anyone no the part number or how I can search for it..
Thanks

Frank, my buddy did the conversion on his MP so I don't have the part numbers. He walked into Ace Hobbies, asked for two of the front shock towers (he doubled them up) and Kevin threw a pair of hingepins in because he knew the standard ones would not fit the new tower. The hingepins he was given were the longer lower pins and there was about a quarter inch of excess hingepin but, when I get my Sherline mill, I'll look into making a brace that will take advantage of this extra hingepin.

[Nuke]

18021 seems to be the number for the set of pins, after checking with tower. I just used a spare set of long ones that came with a spare set of parts I had (can't remember if it was arms, or bulkheads).

After being out of town for a week, I finally got to put the rest of my MP together. I must say, the front brace I mentioned before is a welcome improvement. I stiffens the front tower immensely, and makes mounting the front body posts easier as well.

I have another question, about the carb. My high end needle is really loose, to the point of it spinning around and backing out when the engine is running. I have taken the needle out and reseated it, but it's still loose. Is there a trick to get it to stay put? I see there is an O-ring inside the tube, but I have not taken the carb apart to inspect it yet. Is this something that wears out? The engine is going on it's 3rd gallon, time to rebuild perhaps?
Any other ideas? Thanks!

Tom

[fezzy]

Here is my Dom... All of the pics are quite old, I'l try and get some new pics soon.

http://community.webshots.com/user/asht

MP/Dom Differences:
Slipper Clutch
Hyper7 Rear Shocks F/R
4mm Thick Rear Tower
4mm Thick Tall Front Tower
MT3 Rims/Tyres
Improved Fuel Tank Design
New Bodyshell

Stock MP Gearing is 12t bell 65t Plastic Spur, Dominator gearing is 13t bell and 62t steel spur.

[FrankT]

hello everyone thanks for the response ,can I buy those pins with a kit or something, maybe come with bulkheads.also does anyone have a blow up of a dominator manual maybe I can get some numbers off it.also gearing I also have the dominator wheels and tires,should I also change the gearing,if so can you please post some part #'s on those..
Thanks Very Much:)
Frank

[cxdxh]

frank here is the blowup of the monster pirate, basically same thing as dominator...

http://www.midmad.com/mp/images/MP%20PartsList.jpg



:)

Calvin

[FrankT]

that's great but the parts I need I think are different than that.like the longer hinge pins to go threw the dominator shock tower and the gearing from dominator.fezzy you said the dominator 13t bell and 62t spur.I ordereda hyper 8 port and a paris al 650 pipe,would I need to go to this gearing.
Thanks Frank

[fezzy]

With a AL650 and 8-Port Hyper I'd go for a 14t Bell and 62t Steel Spur, Shold be a good starting point. Are you using Maxx Size rubber or ?

[FrankT]

I have the dominator wheels and tires...

[Coconut]

The dominator parts show 18021 as the pins as stated. Call nitrohouse or ace-hobbies they can verify;as OFNA parts number are often given wrong. They come in eight pin set as listed. You might also check length and be able to lunsford pins in that diameter.

[FrankT]

Thanks I'll do that