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TeeGeeRacer
06-03-2001, 05:21 PM
Okay surely someone here knows more about this car. RCCA staff?? Who went to Shizuoka?
200mm? Novarossi included?
Apparently the car is being tested successfully against the pillow-ball cars out there...
http://www.rcchamp.com/tcs_news.htm
SteveP
06-04-2001, 07:38 AM
TG - I saw the pics Kevin sent from Japan, and I think the TG10R is going to be MUCH more competitive than the old TG10. It's based on much of the same componentry as the TGR, which we found to be an excellent car. We'll know soon...
TeeGeeRacer
06-04-2001, 10:44 AM
please oh please make it VERY soon :D
glitch44
06-11-2001, 06:03 PM
TeeGee,
The TG10R looks very competitive. I've been considering the NitroTC3. Associated has been testing the prototype at my local track Crystal Park and it has been very impressive. The upper deck on the TG10R seems to offer more chasis support the TC3 prototype. I am leaning toward a shaft-type transmission compared to a high maintenance belt-driven transmission which has been quite costly. It will be interesting to see how what changes will develop in both cars. You never know, I might just get my first Tamiya car! ;) ;) ;)
SteveP
06-11-2001, 11:08 PM
Shaft drive might turn out to be the thing to have in a nitro car. It's certainly debatable, but shaft is much more maintenance free...
StevePond
10-11-2001, 11:23 PM
^^^
NMT_RACER_BOY
10-25-2001, 10:07 PM
this car is like NTC3 gone SWEET
I guess people think this is one of Tamiya's newbie car again...
oh well....:D
NMT_RACER_BOY
10-27-2001, 01:11 PM
This car is wicked!!!!!
it comes with alot of shiz
http://www.tamiya.com/english/products/44032tg10r/tg10r_top.jpg
http://www.tamiya.com/english/products/44032tg10r/tg10r_1.jpg
http://www.tamiya.com/english/products/44032tg10r/tg10r_2.jpg
http://www.tamiya.com/english/products/44032tg10r/tg10r_3.jpg
http://www.tamiya.com/english/products/44032tg10r/tg10r_4.jpg
http://www.tamiya.com/english/products/44032tg10r/tg10r_5.jpg
NMT_RACER_BOY
10-28-2001, 12:22 PM
I think this is the car to get
fatpat
10-29-2001, 02:28 PM
That car is baaaaaad aaaaassssss
InspGadgt
10-29-2001, 06:29 PM
I"d like swaybars like that on my TGR...or at least some stronger ones for the TGR.
vapourtrail
11-11-2001, 06:58 PM
The tranny is the 2-shoe type. Very smooth and reliable!:D Adjusting camber looks like a pain though. Does anyone have first-hand experience with this?
rccarracer
11-25-2001, 02:48 AM
The TG10R is 198mm wide, but does not include an engine, and the pipe and header are only avaliable with the kit in Canada, so for everyone else you also need to buy the header and pipe.
Why is that?
Did Tamiya put the header and pipe in just for you guys?
rccarracer
11-25-2001, 04:54 AM
Originally posted by M 5
Why is that?
Did Tamiya put the header and pipe in just for you guys?
You guys!! Check my location, I'm with the mob, who is getting the raw deal!! But I can't understand it myself. But I'm getting one for much cheaper from Hong Kong, so I will in the end come out cheaper than the Canadian's.
TeeGeeRacer
02-23-2002, 12:07 AM
I was looking in the March issue of RCCA and one page 192 it shows Project TA04 with torque rods that connect the upper deck to the hub carriers for extra suspension support. Very similar to the Express.
Anyways my question is if the TA04 front hub carriers would bolt right up to the TG10R suspension so I could attach those nifty torque rods?
Thanks for any help!
racer187
06-08-2002, 08:12 PM
this car is tight!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :eek: :)
Jimmy_GT-R_617
07-16-2002, 02:59 AM
Hey guys need a little help with the cars set up, can anyone help me out??
The car has good handling but the rear seems to grip too much for my liking, it makes the front end wash out wide. What would solve this, I want a little more nuetral feeling tending towards oversteer , but just a bit.
Also just to point out, I got a tuned pipe and header with my TG10R when I purchased it and I live in Scotland, but didn't get an engine.
Thanx
Jimbo
:)
teamorionhk
07-16-2002, 09:45 AM
The car has good handling but the rear seems to grip too much for my liking, it makes the front end wash out wide.
The rear roll centre is too low. Actually it is lower than the front roll centre. That is why the car push. At mid corner, the front is supporting too much weight and hence, it has less grip.
An ideal race car should have the rear roll centre at the bottom of the chassis while front roll centre approx. at the ground level. However, Tamiya TG10R does not offer additional rear upper arm pivot point. As a result, the rear roll centre cannot be altered statically.
You can try the following:
1) Raise the rear ride height, say at 6-7mm;
2) Use harder rear spring;
3) Use softer rear damper, say 40 wt;
4) Use harder anti-roll bar setting;
5) Lower the front ride height, say at 4-5mm;
6) Use softer rear spring;
7) Use harder front damper, say 60 wt;
8) Use softer anti-roll bar setting;
9) Use toe-in at front, if you found the car still push at mid corner, otherwise use 0 toe-in.
I think, these will work. Your car will attack corners like a dream.
Jimmy_GT-R_617
07-17-2002, 12:14 AM
Ok I've adjusted the car accordingly, it now seems surprisingly like a different car. Not perfect to my driving style but it does feel neat and squat throught long fast corners and its got a nippy and quick feeling through slow corners. Just one little problem when I brake hard and turn in the rear becomes very loose, is this with the stiff springs on the rear?? Or should I learn to brake smoothly and not so hard??
Thanx for the tips.
Jimbo
:)
teamorionhk
07-17-2002, 10:10 PM
"Just one little problem when I brake hard and turn in the rear becomes very loose, is this with the stiff springs on the rear?? Or should I learn to brake smoothly and not so hard??"
The rear lost traction before the front and caused the slide. It might be due to the following:
1) The rear wheel locks up during hard braking. You can loose up the brake setting. For an average RCers, it is very hard to master the skill of braking smoothly. Most of us just use on/off brake technique;
If the rear still slides under moderate or little braking:
2) The front damping may be too hard. You can try using lower wt damping oil. Try 5-10wt reduction in front damping weight;
3) Use higher/bigger body wing;
4) Tighten the spring collar in by 0.5mm in the front shock;
5) Loosen the spring collar out by 0.5mm in the rears shock;
6) Increase the rear camber by 0.5 negative degree increment. The rear should not exceed 3 negative degrees. To suit for most racing conditions, 2.0 negative degrees rear camber should be a starting point. If you found your car works well with > -3 degrees, that means your car rolls into corners too much. It is not desirable and your car is not working 100%;
7) Increase the caster of front wheel by inserting 1mm spacer in the front of the upper arm to lessen the turning response of the front;
8) Try negative 1 degree front camber;
Try the above method one by one, and if a particular action cannot cure the problem, return it to the original setting.
Actually, the goal of your car setting is to avoid using brake in corners. A good setup car does not need to use braking except for very high speed straight going into tight and very low speed U turns. Drag or manual braking should be avoided at most of the time.:)
Jimmy_GT-R_617
07-18-2002, 01:16 PM
The track I run on has 2 long straights with a large but very tight infield section, so alot of braking is need on the slow corners, its actually a 1/5 scale track but it does still seem a little tight.
I'll try those settings on friday, thanx for the help.
Thanx
Jimbo
:)
goldtj
08-21-2002, 03:39 PM
I decided i needed a little more kick in my TG 10 so i built some ir rams for it. NE one else done ne thing like this.
NMT_RACER_BOY
08-23-2002, 02:12 PM
haha nice air intake system
goldtj
08-23-2002, 03:12 PM
Cheers. I cut out the front grill on my body and put mesh in it, so it actually rams air into the carb rather than sucks it. Makes for quite a big increase in power.
Where did you purchase this ram induction kit? Whats the part number?
goldtj
08-28-2002, 03:44 PM
Gd aint it. I built da kit myself. Its fairly easy
goldtj
08-28-2002, 03:52 PM
ne one wanna know how to build this?
goldtj
09-01-2002, 03:48 PM
1.Take two standard Tamiya silencers.
2. Unscrew the 2 halfs of both silencers.
3.Take the halfs with the exhaust outlet and join them using a Y piece and some big tubing. (c the pic earlier in the thread if ure not sure)
4.Mount the air ducts on ure car. (i did mine wiv rubber bads wrapped round the front bumper in case i crashed)
5.Run a piece of tube from the 3rd bit on the Y joint to ure carberator and plug it on.
6. Go kick some ass!!!
Hope this helps
fatpat
09-08-2002, 11:17 PM
That's too cool! Nice work!
(visit my website below)
goldtj
09-10-2002, 03:52 PM
Cheers
errr u kinda missed of da website address. Try again
fatpat
09-10-2002, 05:16 PM
Just click the little http://www.radiocontrolzone.com/forums/images/home.gif button under my post.
goldtj
09-11-2002, 03:21 PM
oh right
ta i got it now.
Ne one know of a viper shell dat will fit on the tg10 cos its really narrow? Both of mine r too wide by about 2 cm! I was considering turning my own axles on a lathe. Ne1 know wot they are made of?
dolemite
11-10-2002, 08:13 AM
:confused: sorry if i missed it but when it supposed to come out to the us market (tg10r)
Bandini
11-16-2002, 06:06 AM
By any chance, has anyone tried to put an O.S. 4-stroke car engine (FS26SC/FS40SC) in a TG10R/TGR?
I'm working on a 4-stroke car project, and I'm thinking about using a TGR drivetrain. If someone already tried it, I would like to know what it takes. I can imagine that the flywheel and gears have to be adapted for the higher torque and lower revs.
Someone told me the differential wouldn't take the power, but I find that hard to believe. Tamiya build tanks, don't they? :)
goldtj
11-17-2002, 03:28 PM
Depends on how much power u are putting through it. I agree Tamiya build quality is pretty much bombproof. I know this from personal experience cos i drive my cars hard n when i crash it tends to be pretty spectatcular and i havent yet broken ne thing major on a Tamiya made rig.
dolemite
11-21-2002, 06:18 PM
:confused: hello guys i fixing to buy 10tg mk-1 and i was wondering if is a 1 o 2 gear transmission and and if is one do they sell a upgrade ,i have a hpi ss and is great but im always been in love tamiya cars :cool:
no8racing
11-22-2002, 08:42 PM
Does anyone have any closeup pictures of their 2speed (internals). I got the TG10R used and it doesn't seem to be shifting, no matter how many turns in or out on the adjust ment screws. I do not have the manual at all.
Thanks and please email me at c4Lvin@yahoo.com if possible.
Just using a friend's acct on here
Bandini
11-23-2002, 07:53 AM
dolemite: The TG10 comes with a 1-speed, but you can get a 2-speed for 3800 Yen.
The TG10R comes with a 2-speed, but it is 10000 Yen more expensive, and comes without an engine. If you don't need or want the Tamiya FS-12LT engine, you should give the TG10R a serious look.
1 US Dollar equals 123 Japanese Yen.
Links:
TG10 (http://www.tamiyausa.com/product/rc/nitro/110scale/tg10mk1/44023.html)
2-speed (http://www.tamiya.com/english/rc/rcitem/parts/img/53359.jpeg)
TG10R (http://www.tamiyausa.com/product/rc/nitro/110scale/tg10r/44032.html)
dolemite
11-23-2002, 11:25 AM
:) yeah im moving toward the tg10 since the 10tg pro does not have a engine and alot of the extra hop ups it has can be purchase seperate or with some aluminum aftermarket,tcs does not come near were i live so i dont have to worry about it ,and the other hand i have a hpi ss i can buy the 10tg pro and use the hpi engine the pro and the regular tg10 is only 40$ difference where i been searching
Bandini
11-23-2002, 07:34 PM
Be aware that TG10R and TG10 PRO are not the same.
The TG10 PRO is a hopped up TG10, minus engine and body (and it comes with a single speed transmission), whereas the TG10R is a completely different car.
You have the link for the TG10R above. Here's the link for the TG10 PRO (http://www.tamiyausa.com/product/rc/nitro/110scale/tg10mk1/44020.html).
If I were you, I would get the TG10R and use the HPI engine.
dolemite
11-23-2002, 10:40 PM
i read the features each car has and pro just has more better parts all around like shocks bigger upper plate and chasi is thicker better tires probably but the dimensions of the car the with is all the same just better parts (more carbon parts) what is your opinion of both cars :cool:
Bandini
11-24-2002, 11:44 AM
I don't own either one, so perhaps you shouldn't take my word for it, but I have to say that the PRO doesn't sound like a good deal.
My understanding is that the TG10R is a much better car, and you would probably have to pay about the same for a PRO and a 2-speed as you would for a TG10R.
My advice is; if you're on a budget, get the stock TG10. Otherwise, get the TG10R - not the PRO.
dolemite
11-24-2002, 03:49 PM
yeah thats what i was leaning to :cool:
Tamiya Man
12-23-2002, 08:22 PM
can u use a pull start engine with the tg10r?????
Thanx~~Tamiya Man~~
dolemite
12-24-2002, 01:50 AM
hey you guys do they sell adjustable turn buckles for the tg10r or tg10 at all thats my drawback on this cars it seems the toe in and chamber are not very adjustable:confused:
RCCarFreak
12-27-2002, 02:40 AM
Originally posted by dolemite
hey you guys do they sell adjustable turn buckles for the tg10r or tg10 at all thats my drawback on this cars it seems the toe in and chamber are not very adjustable:confused:
That's what I was thinking as well. Heh, kinda looks like the front suspension on my Super Nitro or something. I'll stick to my NTC3.
tg10r
01-01-2003, 10:47 PM
I just got my tg10r the other day from a guy who works at my LHs for 350 never used with engine and pipe and 2 tanks. Its sweet and really fast. I havent found a dry area big enough for it to kick into second and its still really fast. It seems to handle exceptionly well also. I cant even cookie.
Here's a pic of my TGX. (hint: check Ebay)
email me for info.
john.limb@oandb.com
M03racer
02-02-2003, 10:27 PM
does anyone know if you can use a nitro TC3 header and pipe for the TG10R or do you need to use the tamiya pipe and header. also, does anyone know the part # for the pipe and header and how much it costs.
thank you in advance
M03racer
02-09-2003, 11:36 AM
well i finally ordered mine yesterday unfortunately i dont have enough money for an engine right now
M03racer
02-27-2003, 06:19 PM
i got it done and got an engine for it. here is a pic.
goldtj
03-03-2003, 03:35 PM
nice one. I have a Mark1 TG10 and im thinkin bout doin a twin engined version. Ne 1 here have ne experience wiv twin engines?
It's pretty easy to do wiv this car cos the prop shaft is bang in da middle of the car, all u do is take the chassis plate and draw round it and all the holes etc then turn it over and draw round da engine holes again. Bingo perfect chassis plate plan!
Top deck will have to be reworked though :eek:
didrace
04-02-2003, 10:41 AM
M03racer how did you like the car. Did you race with other cars, is it better ? Thanks have a nice day!!!!!
Aluma
04-02-2003, 02:23 PM
hey guys, any of you tried out that new XBG subaru? I thinks its just a TT-01 adapted to accept a nitro engine. I really like its stop button feature...no more ripped up fingers from runaways! Plus its little heatsinks with scoops are cool too. wonder if its a good handling car though....
M03racer
04-04-2003, 04:55 PM
im sorry didrace. ive been busy lately and havent had a chance to get on the board. actually i havent run it yet because im still breaking in the engine. people i have talked to have said that it handles great though. i would think it would be at least a little competitive with a nitro TC3. Ill let you know when i get it racing.
-david
ta03 tuner
04-13-2003, 09:38 PM
Hey how competitive is the TG10? My hobby shop is going to be starting a nitro class this summer...is the TG10 competitvie against other nitro tourers like the AE and Losi derivatives? I'm a die hard Tamiya fan but if the TG10 is strictly for play...then I'll just stick to my electrics....I was thinking about getting the TG10 with the FS12 engine....I'm going to be new to nitro so I want to start out slow to see if I really like it....any feedback would be cool...
M03racer
04-17-2003, 06:39 PM
the regular TG10 is a piece of crap but the TG10R is a completely different car and is very good. i still am breaking in the engine (its being a pain) but it looks like it should be very competitive. tamiya sells a front one-way for it and ball diffs (it comes with gear diffs) but other than that, it comes with all the good stuff. oh and you could get universals for the rear because it only comes with the fronts. ill let you know when i drive it but it supposedly handles very well.
fabolousRC
04-30-2003, 03:52 AM
Originally posted by ta03 tuner
Hey how competitive is the TG10? My hobby shop is going to be starting a nitro class this summer...is the TG10 competitvie against other nitro tourers like the AE and Losi derivatives? I'm a die hard Tamiya fan but if the TG10 is strictly for play...then I'll just stick to my electrics....I was thinking about getting the TG10 with the FS12 engine....I'm going to be new to nitro so I want to start out slow to see if I really like it....any feedback would be cool...
Let see...stock TG10: change/add the bearings, change the stock steering setup (m03 is right about this one...piece of crap) to aluminum, get the Long suspension setup, and the long arm universals as well. Pick the Enzo Ferrari version cuz it comes with foam bumper and full ball bearings.
M03racer
05-10-2003, 10:01 PM
Does nobody else have one of these?
if not more people should. they are great.
tg10r
05-10-2003, 11:00 PM
Im trying to sell mine. Its new with a RB .12 and RB X-12 pipe. It also has a body and extra springs and fuel tank.
TeeGeeRacer
06-03-2003, 12:38 AM
Man, seems like nobody cares about Tamiya's nitro cars nowadays. Not me!!! I love Tamiya...even if I don't own a Tamiya!
Anyways, check it out, the TGS. No, it's not another TG10. And no, it's not a 'sport' TG10R. What I do know is that it's essentially a nitro TT01.
http://www.****************/images/news/xbg-tgs-skyline.jpg
MonsterBlazer#1
08-22-2003, 04:47 AM
i got a tg10
just a plain old stocker
but it s abitch to get uned rite
got plenty of comrpession but it ust wont tune
ive got the standard tamiya .12 in there...can any1 tel me the settings youve used???
Neil
M03racer
08-27-2003, 09:57 PM
its the one with the single needle carb right? id start it at whatever the instructions suggest. I believe it is about 2 1/2 turns out but im not sure because i havent worked with single needle carbs for a while.
TRF Drive Hard
08-27-2003, 11:18 PM
Hey guys... i been thinkin bout getting in nitro next season... and i really want this to be my nitro... is it possible to put in a better engine?
DvMxDv
08-30-2003, 10:22 AM
Hey Drive Hard!
Tired of buying batteries for all those shelf queens? :D
If you buy the TG10R (which I'm sure you will) it doesn't come with an engine. (BTW - when you find a smokin deal on one in HK, let me know where...)
If you get the pedestrian TG10, it comes with Tamiya's .12 motor.
Either way you can almost any rear exhaust small block. For racing I'd forget about the Tamiya motor. I'm considering nitro for next season and am looking at the STS MT12 that is being imported by Calandra Racing Concepts. It makes like 1.35 hp at 38,000 RPM. Yes, I know a Serio can do better, but the STS motor is only ~$115. Way cheap for that kind of horsepower.
TRF Drive Hard
08-30-2003, 04:37 PM
Well not so much as tired of buying batteries... i want to broaden my horizon in this hobby... so i really want to try out nitro for a change... and i might be able to get a great deal on the tg10r... as for engine price, dont matter... i want one thats somewhat top of the line model that can get my car goin... gotta have a 1000hp skyline:D
DvMxDv
08-31-2003, 06:10 PM
1000 HP Skyline... Heck, I'd be happy with a stock one...:cool:
If you want mondo power and are not concerned about cost, check out the Nova Rossi or Serio lines. High quality, well made, very powerful and they cost like it.
Make sure you check with the track you'll be racing at for motor rules. The tracks close to me require stock, non-turbo motors, so the STS is the best bang-for-the-buck. If your track allows mod motors, be ready for a seriously fast machine.
TRF Drive Hard
09-01-2003, 01:22 PM
So what size engine or what is he biggest i can slap in? like can i slap a .18 in it? or maybe a .21?
DvMxDv
09-01-2003, 02:11 PM
Drive Hard-
.18's and .21's are big blocks. Not completely sure, but don't think they'll fit. The biggest small block I know of is a .15, although Duratrax has the Nitro Evaders and they have an .18 that may be a small block...
Anyway, check with your track for rules before you spend money on anything. It'd be a shame to invest all the $$$ and find out that it's not race legal. Check out the ROAR Nitro TC rules. They limit motor size in 1/10th nitro to .12. Most club type racers will look the other way if you're running a .15, but that's about it. Besides, a hot .12 will make a TG10R plenty fast. A .21, if it fit, would be downright insane and completely uncontrollable...
I met a guy who races a 10R locally and he is running a Fantom .12 Red Head and has a heck of a time maintaining traction on anything but the most well prepared track surfaces.
TRF Drive Hard
09-01-2003, 03:06 PM
My lhs shop doesnt really have such rules... just that there is nitro and super nitro class... correct me if im wrong, i believe that anything above .15 is super nitro right? well if a .12 or .15 is all i can use, i will settle for it... all i need to do is shop for the right one:cool:
DvMxDv
09-01-2003, 05:12 PM
Super Nitro are 235mm cars. They are sized between 1/10th and 1/8th. HPI's RS4 Super is the most common around here.
No rules... Hmm, sounds fun. Look fot a Sirio, Picco or Nova Rossi Turbo Outlaw .12 kick some NTC3 butt!:D
TRF Drive Hard
09-01-2003, 08:29 PM
Those are pretty much the names im looking for;)
ta03 tuner
09-17-2003, 01:06 AM
hey I just got a 1:8 TGX and it rocks but I need more speed...You guys think the Epic .18 will be a good upgrade from the standard FS15? Also, does Tamiya make any other clutch bells other than the 16T one for the TGX....? Let me know if you guys know okay..BTW I don't want the 2 speed because mine is the Rally edition...
ta03 tuner
09-19-2003, 12:40 AM
man...is this thread dead? C'mon fellas...
G60IMNOBUG
11-02-2003, 01:14 AM
can someone PM me how to setup the brakes on my tg10 mk1?
cvccsi
12-04-2003, 02:28 AM
Hi All,
I have a brand new assembled ball diff for TG10R. Is anyone interested in a ball diff? This ball diff maybe used with TGR as well..
If anyone is interested, please PM me.
tks.
cheechthechi
01-21-2004, 01:09 AM
hi
ive been drving electric cars for awhile now and i was wondering wat would be a good nitro car to start off with. I was considering a tgs beacuse of the price, but on the hold i rather like assembling my cars. so i was wondering what opions you may have on the tgs or the tg10.
thanks
- cheech
neongtr
04-19-2004, 03:59 AM
tg is a nice car to drive around car park...but not good for racing..
need lots of mod to get up to club race standard.
plus the car is an old design.....it seriously needs an update....
hondafather
04-19-2004, 09:30 PM
MAn this car is tiggggggggggggggggggggggggggggght. I was thinking of getting the Tamiya XBG, but this tigggggggggggggggggggggggggght!
weatherlight
05-27-2004, 07:15 AM
Hi guys, I know its a litlle late but...
I'm planning to purchase a tg10r...I have a TB01-EVO and would like another tamiya to race with...However I've got a concern. Last week I raced with my tg10 and I'm sick and tired of the car rolling over at the end of the straight...It is about to touch the ground with on-road tuned shocks (4mm clearance) but it still rolls out at high speed cornering where ntc3's run past even at much higher speeds with no problem...I know that TG10 has a high cg and it is 180mm..TG10r is 198mm and has a lower cg but I'm still unconfertable...Does anyone here is blaming the car for rolling out at high speed cornering? Please I don't want to see that happen in the tg10r that I will purchase (if I will purchase)...What I talk about high speed cornering is cornering at more than 70-80km+ with an angle a bit less than 3/4 full steer...
thx...
fabolousRC
05-27-2004, 09:16 PM
Hi guys, I know its a litlle late but...
I'm planning to purchase a tg10r...I have a TB01-EVO and would like another tamiya to race with...However I've got a concern. Last week I raced with my tg10 and I'm sick and tired of the car rolling over at the end of the straight...It is about to touch the ground with on-road tuned shocks (4mm clearance) but it still rolls out at high speed cornering where ntc3's run past even at much higher speeds with no problem...I know that TG10 has a high cg and it is 180mm..TG10r is 198mm and has a lower cg but I'm still unconfertable...Does anyone here is blaming the car for rolling out at high speed cornering? Please I don't want to see that happen in the tg10r that I will purchase (if I will purchase)...What I talk about high speed cornering is cornering at more than 70-80km+ with an angle a bit less than 3/4 full steer...
thx...
get the long suspension arm conversion to give the car more linear arm movement or better yet...the TG10R or even better (and no so expensive) the TG10 Mk.2 that Tamiya just released. The least expensive one would be the long arm suspension arm conversion. I think RCboyz.com has them for about 50 US dollars and everyone else is selling it at 80 US dollars including ebay. Plus, I'll give you 195mm width instead of the regular 180mm width. Get that and the long universal axles as well.
I have the TB01 (electric version of TG10) in stock form and it doesn't roll at the end of a long straight but it does have A LOT OF understeering because of the stock suspension. The Long Suspension conversion is on my number one list for upgrade both for the rally version and the CF double deck version that I am currently building.
I would advise you to not buy TG10R other than for collecting purposes only. The chassis and drivetrain is completely outdated and pretty heavy compared to NTC3s and the belt driven ones. I would go with the Mk.2 cuz it's lighter and more efficient (it uses TB EVo III/IV gearbox design) than the old TGX gearbox which has a native drag built into its design.
weatherlight
05-28-2004, 04:04 AM
thx...
Well I have a major problem about ordering stuff from the net...my dad restricts all incoming parts due to university blah blahs...I can't even order a 50-60$ shipment...thats why I bought a TB01 and converted into a evo (well tried to at least :) )...we don't have any evos around here and I always wanted one...we don't have any tg10 mk2 also..however tamiya hq here is just about to receive their 3 months regular shipment maybe I'll go have a look...I can acquire the TG10R about 350$ if the mk2 is close to it I'll consider that one even though I didn't like the chasis desing...TG10R seems like it lasts even for a 4-5h endurance race :) ...
You say that converting to long arm eliminates rolling at high speed cornering? I can purchase a TG10R tank for 20$ and I already have the tb evo long arm suspension kit (I think I can put it with longer dogbones and stock uprights) ...maybe I'll try that because its cheaper and I love driving my tg10 in snow !!!
weatherlight
05-29-2004, 02:35 PM
I've increased ride width to 200mm and added a tg10r tank...will see how it will perform at track tomorrow...I'm broke just cannot afford 350$ to tg10r for now...
fabolousRC
05-29-2004, 07:58 PM
I've increased ride width to 200mm and added a tg10r tank...will see how it will perform at track tomorrow...I'm broke just cannot afford 350$ to tg10r for now...
Good..save your money for TG10 Mk.2. The way i looked at the chassis, it looked like japane-fied NTC3 Factory team new version with the engine layout match of the Nitro RS4 3 EVo with NTC3 Team version two suspension system. It comes with all the carbon parts, full threaded shocks, sway bars, and full ball bearings so it should be somewhere near the $300 mark. The only thing it is missing is the upper carbon tray, shock towers and a milled, thicker chassis. With 2speed included in the kit, TG10 mk2 should be formidable foes to both the japanese kits and anglo kits.
check out http://www.hobby.co.jp to check out the pictures of the TG10 Mk2
weatherlight
05-30-2004, 02:43 AM
Well the tg10 mk2 didn't looked as strong as the tg10r, what do you guys think about it? In Turkey a trf414 mk2 is 816$ and the tg10r is 465$ and I just can't buy one from the net...so if the guy at tamiya hq sees that the chasis is full of everything, I doubt that he will sell it for 300$ ...he sells the stock tg10 mk1's for 370$...I know that the tg10r is a little heavy and the tgr gear cases are a bit stiff and that tg10 mk2 is a much better car in both handling and performance...Maybe I should just wait for the mk2 to arrive here then pick one...Or maybe my tg10 will rock at the track so I don't have to buy one :) (well I know that it's a very small hope)...
fabolousRC
05-31-2004, 01:15 AM
it's listed on http://www.rainbowten.co.jp for 33000 yen...use your own currency conversion to determine how much it would be in your currency
weatherlight
05-31-2004, 03:43 AM
Well the car performed much better than I expected...It is stable enough not to roll at hs cornering...Also the ae engine is performing well...I can keep up with tc3s (rtr) and impulses even though I use the stock tm4 muffler...I think people are exaggerating the improvement of a muffler...Guess its about %10-15 or so...Now I have time to save money or wait for tg10 mk2...In the meantime however, I will put in tg10 stabilizers and aluminum engine mounts and a good servo saver for better handling...
fabolousRC
05-31-2004, 04:21 AM
Good to hear
TeeGeeRacer
09-04-2004, 02:13 AM
Does anyone here plan on getting a MkII? I do. I had the 10R and the MkII seems to have improved upon it. Release date?