Losi XX4 Forum

[Luckyman4]

Yeah, I think you're right ... just one of those things, but always painful when it happens in the Main! :mad:

You'd think with all the titanium stuff out there that someone would make pins too ... but perhaps it's better that they do shear off rather than transferring the stress to other more expensive (& harder to get to) parts. I might experiment with cutting some piano wire from the LHS down to size ... then again I'm pretty lazy too, I'll likely just make sure I have a good stock of pins on hand and replace routinely before any big races.

Speaking of 'big races', I'm going to one in a couple of weeks, the Missouri State Champs in Chillicothe, Jan 24-26. It's a very nice facility, but VERY different from what I drive on at our club track.

http://www.nmr-c.com/

We should have a ton of Region 8 racers there, even though it's not an official ROAR event (that's usually in August). Wish me luck, I'll need it!
:D

[Casper]

That looks like a great track. I would try losi pink tires on a track that looks like that. Tracks like that is where they work the best. Drive pins are actually roll pins. If you look at them closely they are actually VERY thin sheet spring steel rolled up. The benefit to this is they press fit into the hole and stay put. If you just used piano wire you would loose the pins everytime you took the tires off. Just something to think about if you want to come up with a new drive pin for your cars.

[Luckyman4]

Right you are! I think I'll stick with the roll pins a while longer, the engineers probably know better than I on that score, and I'm concerned that worse damage may happen to the diffs or outdrives if I go to hardened steel solid pin ... unless they start popping all the time (which they shouldn't), then I'll reconsider. Thanks!! ;)

[Luckyman4]

Casper et al,

Q: where/how do you mount a transponder on your XX-4? Track rules say it must be inside the body, but it's kinda cramped in there ... homemade brace or whats your solution? LMK, thanks!
:) -John

[Casper]

I always mounted my transponder in the left window of the body near the back of the windown. Some others mounted it in the roof of the body. If you have the WE chassis and run your battery in the front you can mount the transponder with a custom mount behind the battery in the rear of the chassis. I hope this helps.

[Luckyman4]

Thanks Casper, I'll probably use the side window, but that reminds me of another question for ya' ...

RE: the Worlds chassis and forward battery mounting position, when I put my batts in the forward position the battery hold-down thingy only covers the rearward two cells ... the mounting post only has one location, does that actually work, or do I need an "long" style hold-down ... I can't figure out how it supposed to stay in firmly in the forward location. Is the front most battery just left uncovered? What am I missing? Got any tips?

[Casper]

From what I remember Kinwald glued the battery insert in the battery hold down in a forward position. Does that make any sense? I am not sure if the WE kit came with new battery hold downs or not but the original hold downs needed a 1/4 in thick plastic plate to be glued to them to hold the batteries down in the lowered chassis. They just glued that plate in offset to hold the batteries secure. I do not think that cell unsupported would not hurt anything though. The battery is not going anywhere unless the battery bar breaks!:eek:

[Luckyman4]

Hmmm ... sounds like permission to be creative, lol! I'll figure something out, thanks! :D

[Casper]

Yes that is the case. This is a do it yourself type modification to secure the battery in the all they way fwd position.

[Luckyman4]

Okay, I can work with that. Funny though that Losi would make a whole new chassis and then not redesign the battery hold down to go with it ... the R&D dept. must have "Gone Racin' " after they finished the chassis work. :rolleyes:

[Casper]

http://www.teamlosi.com/Pictures01/ROARMod/5mattbuggy.jpg

Here is a picture of the battery plate glued fwd. This is what they decieded to do for this battery position. It works but you will need a new set of battery hold downs to make it work!

[Luckyman4]

:D Talk about a picture being worth a thousand words .... "Oh, now I get it!" BIG thank U!!!

Do you run yours with the battery forward? Which do you prefer, or run most often - batt forward or batt back?

[Casper]

I did not have the WE edition chassis on my 4wd. I only had the orginal cut chassis which only had the 6 slots. I always ran it that way because of that so I do not know how the car will handle with the battery fully forward. I would try it and see how you like the balance. It should give you some more steering.

[Maxxcrazy]

woot i just bought a worlds on ebay for 150. I'm so excited

[Luckyman4]

Maxxcrazy,

Congrats on your new World's Ed.! Some great info in this thread, be sure to see Casper's links/tips - the url is pasted below - GREAT stuff on setup and mods. I got my WE off ebay too ... I think it's definitely beefier/stronger than the XXX-4 (at least in stock form), though not as easy to work on as the xxx-4. Keep us posted! :) -John

http://home.att.net/~casper04/

go to Tips & Tricks then XX4

[Maxxcrazy]

thanks Luckyman. Ive been there before and its very help ful. as soon as i get it i'll be racing

[Gmanlusk2004]

I just received a xx-4 WE in a trade for my B3. This buggy is awesome. It has all titanium linkages, the outdrive cups, and a custom painted body that is just like the losi bodies. The guy claims that he knows gil losi and mike reedy. He said he used to live by them. He also says that he knows masami hirosoka or whatever his name is. I believe him, he knows what he is talking about. but this car is cool... i can't post a pic here 'cause the file is too large. but there is a pic on my site. check it out.

http://community.webshots.com/photo/62909725/63514545bImOpv

L8r,
Garrett

[Maxxcrazy]

what hop ups do you guys recomend? how are the penguin front shock tower braces, the trinity front and rear aluminum braces?

[MagicD]

Gmanlusk2004,

I took a look through your gallery, that's a good looking xx4 you got there. :D

I also ran across a pic of the new Mitsubishi Evo8...mark my words, in 1 1/2 years time, that baby will be mine...oh yes, it will be mine!

[Gmanlusk2004]

thanks magic. You like those pix? those are from the Houston Auto Show. I like the ferrari enzo a lot, but that 97 tahoe that is lifted is pretty badass too. I got a lot more pix and i might make a rc specific gallery and a real car specific gallery. If any of yall want your pix posted on my gallery send em to me at goldglovegarrett@aol.com

L8r,
Garrett

[shadmaster4]

Hey, I just got a XX4 from Momosport...It is great, i got it yesterday, and I am cleaning it now....I noticed one thing, the screw that holds the motor plate in, nearest to the front, is stripped on the top. (momo, I don't wanna trade back, but if this cannot be fixed, than sorry, we will have to trade back). Do you know what screw I am talking about? It is a very small hex screw. How can I take it off, so I can put a motor in? Does anyone have a manual for this buggy, that is either scanned in or online? IF you do, e-mail it to me at zackshelp@nc.rr.com . So, this buggy, looks really cool, but I want to run it. If you can help me out or tell me how I can get this screw out, or somehow put a motor in, without taking the clamp off, please tell me....Thanks- Zack

[Casper]

The head of the screw is stripped or the threads the screw is in is stripped? It seems to me you are saying the screw head is stripped since you cannot get the motor out. You might be able to break the screw loose with some pliers since this is a cap head screw. Try using a really good 3/32 wrench to see if it can get a good bite. The bondus or the "L" wrenches are not the best tools. IF all else fails you can use a thin cuttoff wheel on a demel and slot the head of the screw and use a flat head screw driver to get the screw out. This is the only way to get the motor of of this car. You cannot get to the motor mounting screws any other way.

[shadmaster4]

Hey, the screw head is stripped....I tried a bunch of the "L" wrenches and none worked....I finaly found one that worked good, it was one for a socket wrench.....Anyways, i got it in....Is this car slow, or it seems slow.......I put my Trinity Stock motor in it, and it was sooooo slowwww. In my 2wd truck it is a lot faster, and in my 4wd touring car, it is 10 times faster, I wonder if I have the wrong pinion....I took the pinion out of my ta03f, and put it in..I think it has 16 teeth, and i think I have the stock spur in. I have a 84t spur also....What size pinion should I use? Thanks- Zack

[Casper]

Unless you put 48 pitch gears in your tamiya car you are using the wrong pitch gear. The tamiya cars run a metric pitch gear. This may be some of your problem. Also this is not a car that runs really strong in stock. It should not be really slow but the 3 best system is not real effiecient for stock racing. I never ran stock in my XX4 but a good starting point would be a 21T gear. Make sure it is 48 pitch though.

[shadmaster4]

yeah, that was just a extra motor i had....I also have a orion rush 15x2.. I will give that a try

[Casper]

Start gearing a 15 at 22/84.

[shadmaster4]

I regeared it with a 20t and stock spur, and the 15turn screams....

[shadmaster4]

hey, i bought some 48pitch gears, size 17 and 23, and I also have a 20. If I ever want to replace the spur gear, is there any metal spur geaars that fit? Also, there is no sites that sell losi parts, does anyone know of any? - Zack

[Maxxcrazy]

Stormer has a lot of parts (http://www.stormerhobbies.com) Just go to the bottom, click search then type in XX4

[PCC]

Well, after several failed attempts to sell my old XX4, I have decided to keep it and have fun with it.

I'm not sure what version it is. I got it from a friend who tends to buy either top-of-the line stuff or buys what is available then buys every hop-up available and hops it up. When he loses interest in it he puts it aside for a while then sells it off. The car has the graphite chassis, graphite shock towers and suspension arms, titanium turnbuckles, but it came with the standard, build-it-yourself rear universals. The shocks have the hard annodised shock bodies but that's it. The motor plate is a blue, ribbed affair. I can send pictures to anyone who wants to see it but I cannot post them here.

I plan on doing a few of the things that Casper outlined on his site (rear CR conversion, eliminate the slipper clutch) as well as some other mods (smooth front one-way, eliminates the clicker, if I can get away with it).

Speaking of Casper, I was in your neck of the woods this past Friday (Irvine, Laguna Hills, Costa Mesa) for work.

[Casper]

Sounds good. I would put the B3 conversion on the car first. This will make the car much stronger. As for the smooth one way and eliminating the clicker. I am not sure what you mean by that. I always ran my clicker as loose as possible. The nut was flush with the end of the threads. This was as loose as I felt comfortable running it. I also put a little losi white grease on the gears to make it a little smoother. This is about the only place I ever put grease on gears. Did you get a chance to race while you were down here or was it a buisness only trip?

[PCC]

It was supposed to be business only but I had enough time to stop by Team Associated to exchange a bad LRP ESC and to stop by OFNA and NitroHouse because they are right around the corner from one of our field offices.

The thing about the clicker, I was thinking of using a one-way bearing but I will have to find a way to make it work. I'll let you know.

[Casper]

The clicker does the same thing as a one way bearing or a front one way diff. The clicker on this car is more reliable and more adjustable. I would not change a thing but you can experiement if you feel the need.

[shadmaster4]

Hey, on my xx-4, i have uni's all around. On the front wheels, I want to take off the universals, to clean them. I take off the wheel, then I have the axle. How do I take it off? These arn't mip cvds. I believe this is a world kit. I can't seem to take off the axles, which are part of the uni's. Any help? Thanks- Zack

[Casper]

You have to take the pin out that is in the hex adapter on the axle. This is just a press fit roll pin that should not be all that hard to get out. Once you get that pin out the hex adapter will fall off and you can pull the axle out toward the inside of the front spindle.

[shadmaster4]

Cool. thanks. Does anyone have any front shock towers that they would sell me or give me? I just broke mine off a ramp. These buggies flip easy. I need one quickly. If you have an extra , AIM me or E-mail me. Thanks- Zack

[momosport]

SHADMASTER

WOW MAN! Such a Beautiful car!
Hope you enjoy it, i know I had fun w/ it.

http://home.attbi.com/~q45guy2/xx42.jpg



MOmo

[PCC]

Originally posted by Casper
The clicker does the same thing as a one way bearing or a front one way diff. The clicker on this car is more reliable and more adjustable. I would not change a thing but you can experiement if you feel the need.
Guess I'll save my energy for other things, then.

[shadmaster4]

Hey, I know this probably should go in the wanted forum, but no one has this part, and I would figure one of you might have this, or can tell me another screw that may work. In the manual, it is part number: A6229

it is a 4-40 3/8th inch button head screw. (that is what is says on the site)
Is there any other screw that would have the same thread and length, but a bigger hex hole? The hole is so small, that it is so easy to strip, and to strip my wrench.

Also, does anyone have any that they would sell to me? I just need one. It is the screw witht eh very small hex hole nearest the front on the motor mount. I need one badly or i am screwed. Help?

Does anyone have a manual for this that is online, or one they could scan and send to me?

Thanks- Zack

[Casper]

You can do one of two things. Get a better 1/16th wrench (recommended to have one anyway) or you should have a 3/8 cap head screw in your tool box. If you do not have one then I will guarentee that a person at your track will have one. A-6206 would be the losi part number for these cap head screws. They will have the standard 3/32 head on them which will allow you to wrench down on them tighter. Just find another screw in your box that is the same length. All 4-40 screws have the same thread. 4-40 means it is a #4 screw (determines diameter of the screw) and has 40 threads per inch. These are VERY common.

[shadmaster4]

Hey, thanks. I don't have a 3/32 in wrench, but, I was wondering, where I might be able to find another screw, since this one is stripped bretty badly. I need a better set of wrenches badly.

[Casper]

The 3/32 is the wrench used for all the other cap head screws on your car. I hope you have one of those otherwise you are not working on your car much! Spend a little extra if you can on some good tools. Get ones that have ground tool steel tips like Losi, Trinity, Hudy, MIP/Thorp (my preference), AE, or Dynamite. These will help save you headaches from stripping screws for a long time to come. You will need 3/32, 1/16th, and .050. These are the most common. You will probably want a 2.5mm for the motor screws and a 5/64 (2mm) is not used all that much but is nice to have when you need one.

[shadmaster4]

OH, I wasn't relizing that I had a 3/32. I have a bunch of those I think. The wheel nuts are big. HEy, I don't race my XX4, and I am looking for some tires for the yard and street. I was looking at some of the "rib" ones, for the front. Will any of the pro-line ones fit? I have dish wheels currently. Look at the last pic, from momo, that it what I got from him. I also have a whole bunch of holeshots for the back, but those go to quick. I just bought some slashes, what are those? I bought them used, and havn't gotten them yet (they were thrown in in a deal). What about for the rear? Any good street tires? Thanks- Zack

[Casper]

I cannot think of any front steet tires for the XX4 car. You should be able to stretch some Front Dirt hawgs from proline for you car. They sell front street tires also. The Dirt hawgs are kind of an all terrain type tyre. I would not recommend putting rib sytle tires on the front of the car. They will last a long time but will not handle very well for a 4wd. Check out www.pro-lineracing.com form more information on the tires I mentioned. The slashes are a discontinued tire. It was for blue groove tire conditions. They will be about a one run tire on the street for your infomation.

Good luck with your hunting for tires!

[Gmanlusk2004]

Where can i buy a wing for my xx-4? I just got one used and it has no wing.

L8r,
Garrett

[momosport]

Originally posted by Gmanlusk2004
Where can i buy a wing for my xx-4?


When I had mine, (See pic above, now SHADMASTER4s) I used an ASSOCIATED B3 buggy wing. PART #6182

Do you have wing mounts correct?


MOmo

[shadmaster4]

I don't think wings help much, I havn't been to a track, so maybe I am wrong, but on ramps, in the backyard, it just gets torn up..

[Casper]

wings help a lot on the track. You would be amazed. Just about any 10th scale wing will fit on the XX4. I ran the XXX wing on mine for a long time. You can run any buggy wing that losi makes but I would not run the XXX4 or the phobia wings.

[Gmanlusk2004]

funny you should mention the b3 wing. I have a spare b3 wing, that's what i'll prolly use. One thing though, i have rc10, lrp, and reedy stickers all over it... how can i remove those while still being able to put them on a different body.

Here's my "new" xx-4

L8r,
Garrett

[Casper]

I do not know of any ways of taking stickers off so you can use them again. Maybe someone else can help with that one.

[Maxxcrazy]

I dont think its possible. On my tamiya pajero body that i removed all the decals from, i just used a hobby knife and tweesers to pull the decals off.

[shadmaster4]

Does the XX4 have a rear slipper in addition with a front one? That sounds a litle stupid:confused: . I need to clean my car, but i don't have a manual, and I am afraid I may not be able to put it back together. Is there one online? I have that 3page thing off losi's site, but that is hard to read.

[Gmanlusk2004]

to my experiences, it can't be done, but i was wondering if someone found out a way to do it. I guess not. It's not important, i was wanting to put some pro line stickers on my 8th buggy 'cause none came w/ the crowd pleazer body i bought.

L8r,
Garrett

[Casper]

shadmaster4-- The XX4 does not have a rear slipper. The Slipper that is on the car is a slipper for the front and the rear. It is does not only work for one end of the car. I am not sure if losi will ever put that manual on-line since they have the XXX4 now.

[shadmaster4]

rats. I will have to take some pics, and do it without the manual. I am usually good at remembering where things went, but I heard this car had a very complicated tranny.

[shadmaster4]

if you spin the wheels in the foward direction, is the clicker supposed to sound? or is it backwards? I just rebuild the tranny, and can't remember. Also, mine had ballbearings in the steering. Is that normal, or is that some upgrade?

[Casper]

The clicker sounds when you roll the front tires backwards. Losi has an exploded view of the car whick should help you get things back together in a bind. Also ball bearing steering is an upgrade. Losi sold the 4 bearings in a bag for the upgrade to this car.

[shadmaster4]

Cool!:D I didn't know it was an option....One thing, I couldn't get the screws out from the bottom of my chassis in the rear, to get the rear shock tower off. All the screws had dirt packed in it. Does anyone know how to get this stuff out? I took some rust cleaner, and sprayed away at the screws, hoping it would break up the dirt. I hate how losi has the 1/16in hex screws, they are hard as mess to take out, exspecially if you don't have a brand new driver, with sharp edges.

[Casper]

Most guys just use there exacto knife to clean out the holes. I got an old dental tool from a swap meet to do this job since using my exacto knife usualy broke off the tip. A broken tip still cleans out the holes well but it does not cut all that well anymore! The only people that do not use the 1/16th for flat head screw are the TIR titanium screws which use the 5/64 wrench for both the flat head and the cap head screws. As long as you get a good 1/16th wrench it should last you years. I am still using the same Thorp/MIP 1/16th wrench for the past 8 years.

[shadmaster4]

hey, I took the xx4 out on concrete and did a power slide, and I later found I took off all the tread on my tires. What size wheels are on the xx4, and what tires can I get? I am looking for a street/concrete/grass tire. One that will last a while.. I have the dish rims on the pic on like page 11 or 12 i think. I already have the holeshot ones, and they wear fast. I am looking at the pro-line step pins in the rear and wide blade in the front...Are these compatible? Help..Thanks- Zack

[Casper]

http://www.pro-lineracing.com/proline/tires/1073/1073.jpg

I would try these in the front (pro-line 1073 Dirt Hawg III) and for the rear the Dirt Hawg I Pro-line #1071. These should be good all around tires for you street fun.

[Maxxcrazy]

I just got my xx4. I'm gonna go racing once i get electronics

[shadmaster4]

Thanks Casper...Do you know of any place that sells them cheap? Like cheaper than tower hobbies? Thanks- Zack

[Casper]

Stormer has them for 11.95. This is kind of what you will have to pay for tires. I do not know of a discount tire place other then looking on ebay for deals as them come up. Tower has the fronts for less then stormer so I would just go with them if you cannot get them from your lhs.

[shadmaster4]

Does anyone ever use 7 cells in there xx4? I want to in mine, and have that extra slot, but where do I put the esc? My car is jam packed.

[Casper]

You can put 7 cells in the car if you have a small enough ESC. You put 4 on one side and 3 on the other. This is not legal for racing so it really is not an option designed for in the car but it can be done. You need a Cyclone or smaller ESC though.

[shadmaster4]

I fit it in, I had to modify the battery hold down on the left side. I then took it for a run, and I was behind a tree and lost site of it and hit my garage smack in the front wheel. Broke a bulkhead.:confused: Does your front brace help it? Also, when I jump, mine always does nosedives. Do you hit the throttle or hit the brake to make it stay level?

[Casper]

That will depend on how it broke. If one side broke then yeah more then likely the brace would have helped. Since you need to get a new bulkhead anyway get the B3 brace (only $1.50) and if you have extra parts look for some longer hinge pins or some old shock shafts for cutting down and put the brace on. It should prevent that from happening ever again. I did not ever break a front bulkhead after I put the brace on.

[Gmanlusk2004]

if you are goin nosedown... you need to apply throttle to level it out. If you are too far back.. then you need to step on the brakes. Think about it... it makes sense.

L8r,
Garrett

[Casper]

Yeah sorry I forgot about that question. Gas raises the front end and brake lowers it. It has to do with the rotating inertia of the tires on the car. If you leave the throttle on a little longer on take off your nose should be higher also.

[Gmanlusk2004]

yeah... when i'm about to jump my storm, I juice it and it flies level 95% of the time. when a 4wd is jumping, it is like flying because you have total control of the car when it is in the air.

L8r,
Garrett

[Maxxcrazy]

nuff said

[Casper]

http://home.att.net/~casper04/images/4wd_2001_shootout_wheelie.JPG

Ok here is an action shot! :cool:

[thuglove]

does anyone have a extra xx4 or want to trade theres??i have a NICE roller TC3 and a RTR team GT that i would trade,,LMK plz bc i want one

[shadmaster4]

Hey, I don't have an XX4 for sale, but look in the classifieded section of this site, there are a lot always. Check with "fastzach" he may still have his for sale.

IS there any aluminum parts made for the XX4? Like arms, hubs, towers? I already have the clamp, and a few others. Does anyone custom make parts?

[Casper]

The only things that I can remeber that were made for this car were the motor clamp, front bulkhead, and you could modify a XX rear pivot block for the rear pivot blocks on the XX4. I cannot remember anything else off the top of my head. Oh trinty also made alum rear hubs for the XX. If you are running the CR rear running the CR rear end I would use the XXX alum rear hubs.

[shadmaster4]

where can I find the aluminum front bulkhead?

[Casper]

I saw one at So Cal raceway in Huntington beach. (www.socalrc.com) and they will mail it to you if you need one. I just ran the B3 front brace and you do not need the front bulkhead. The alum front bulkhead put a lot of strian in the chassis and you tend to break the front end of the chassis off more with these.

[thuglove]

does any one have one they will trade with me??

[adam lancia]

thuglove: email me some pics of the tc3 and if you have any spare parts/tires, a list of them would be cool. tango4_4@hotmail.com

thanks,
adam

[thuglove]

adam:YGM

[shadmaster4]

Just got some dirt hawgs for my buggy and 2 sanyo 1900 scr's (gotta convert them to saddle:( )

YEah!

[shadmaster4]

Just got some dirt hawgs for my buggy and 2 sanyo 1900 scr's (gotta convert them to saddle :( )

YEah!

[Maxxcrazy]

What pinion do you reconmend for an 11 turn D5? Can't wait for the racing season

[Casper]

I would start with 18/84.

[PAPA MOOSE]

Does everyone have that sweet rear hinge pin brace for the xx-4!
The one that was on e-bay a while back!

:)

[Casper]

That brace is way cool I just ran the trinity one on my car but that machined one on ebay is WAY better.

[shadmaster4]

I have this purple anodized one, it looks kick ass. Is that the one? I just blew a bearing in my rear axle. It is the one that goes in the hub of the rear axle....What size is it? I have just a stand hub I guess....It isn't the cr i believe. Help? Thanks...I found some diff problems today..I am gonna find out the prob..

[PAPA MOOSE]

3/8X3/16 I belive std bearing!

I still have a few purple and red ones all the blue are gone!

It looks as though maybe a revival of xx owners I will put some more on the bay if some are interested!

the look good polished also a little work but a great look!

Let me know guys!

Listen to casper on the b3 brace never break a bulkhead again unless you back it in!

[shadmaster4]

Hey thanks...I noticed a few of my bearing said "titanium" on the metal part.....Is there any titanium bearings? Mine have some I guess.....:cool: I am going to my LHS soon...Does anyone know the part number for the B3 brace? And which pins will fit? And thier part number? Thanks---------------------------> Zack

[Maxxcrazy]

Let me rephrase the question. What spur should i use with a 10x1 D5, 17T pinion?

My car came with extra spurs out of teh packages. So can you explain the teeth on each of the following colors so i can label them: purple, white, yellow and black

thanks

[shadmaster4]

I don't know, but I have a couple purple ones. Go on a store online and look at the pics of the spur gears, maybe they may name how many teeth each is...

[540ismiley]

I have 2 options xx-4 worlds for $150 in ecelente shape or
xxx-4 With hobby discount at $215.00
thanks. what is a better buy?
josh

[Gmanlusk2004]

well... let's think about this. I assume you posted this question in the losi xxx-4 thread too. They are gonna respond saying that you should get the xxx-4. Here most are gonna respond saying that you should get the xx-4. But w/ all favorites aside, you are comparing the xx-4 WORLDS edition to a xxx-4 basic, basic, basic, edition. No goodies. The better racer is the xx-4. Look at Jukka Steenari, he won the Worlds. Matt Francis came in second, but he had a highly modified xxx-4. Jukka had the totally stock xx-4 WE. The only mod he had was a swaybar in the rear.

in conclusion... (lol) go w/ the xx-4 we. It's just better.

L8r,
Garrett

[thuglove]

540ismiley YOU GOT MAIL

[Maxxcrazy]

Jukka put 2 washers on the kingpin to adjust roll too.

Also, I just ordered a D5 10x1, 2 deans connectors, and a trinity screw kit for my electronic-less stripped screws XX4.

[Gmanlusk2004]

i just changed out motors in mine... man is it a pain to do that! It took me like 45 minutes. It took a long time because i didn't have a manual, and i took apart the whole front assembly for no reason. O well.... but still, now that i remember how to do it, it'll still take like 20 minutes.

L8r,
Garrett

[Maxxcrazy]

It should only take 5 mins to change motors. take the clamp off, take the mount off then reinstall it with the new motor

[Casper]

Originally posted by Maxxcrazy
Let me rephrase the question. What spur should i use with a 10x1 D5, 17T pinion?

My car came with extra spurs out of teh packages. So can you explain the teeth on each of the following colors so i can label them: purple, white, yellow and black

thanks

Run the stock purple 84 spur with a 17 for a 10 turn motor.

Purple-84
Yellow-82
White-78
black-76

If you run anything larger then the 84 you will rub the chassis.

[Casper]

540ismiley-- The XX4 might be a better car but losi WILL stop supporting it. Parts will get very hard to find and that should be considered. The XXX-4 is a great car. It does have some bugs but at the same time losi has improved a lot of the parts from the "original" kits and the car is getting stronger. If you can afford it I would go with the XXX-4 even if the XX-4 is cheaper with more hop-ups. If you want to wait about a year the XXX-4 should have a graphite kit by then.

[Maxxcrazy]

thanks. you seem to know everything about xx4's

[Casper]

I wouldn't say EVERYTHING but have been racing losi offroad cars for over 10 years now! I am just glad I can help you guys out when you have questions and I hope my suggestions are useful.:)

[Gmanlusk2004]

ok casper... i got a pickle :D

The front of my xx-4 is making a bad clicking noise when under power. I thought at first that it was my universals coming out of my out drives, then i remembered that i had outdrive savers, so that wasn't it.

I think that it is my front diff... or that my belt is slipping around the diff. It isn't the clicker so no one respond saying that it's my clicker :rolleyes:

If it is, what should i do? dissasemble my front diff and replace the gear? Replace the belt? turn the diff around?

Thanks in advance...

L8r,
Garrett

[Casper]

You need to find out if it is clicking when the front end is under load ie running on the ground or if it still clicks when you pick the car up. Is it a constant click or only when you are on power? These are the hardest things to trouble shoot over the internet but answer some of the above questions and I should be able to point you in the right direction.

[Gmanlusk2004]

i said it before....

The front of my xx-4 is making a bad clicking noise when under power.

so i assume it's the belt... what should i do???

L8r,
Garrett

[Casper]

Well there is under power off the table and under power on the track. Unloaded clicking can be different things. My best guess would be that it is a skippig belt. If this is the case replace the belt AND the pullies that belt was one. Once a belt skips it rounds the edges of the pully and any new belts that are put on the pully will skip much sooner ruining the new belt.

[shadmaster4]

That is true...You may want to consider that, but the XX4 is a great buggy!

[Gmanlusk2004]

well... it is when it is on the ground. it doesn't make that noise when in the air. besides, i turned the diff around and that fixed the problem.... for now. I think that i'm just delaying the inevitable. O well, it's all good.

L8r,
Garrett

[Casper]

The XX4 is an awsome car. You need to consider future parts availablity in your current purchases. At least that is very important to me.


Gmanlusk2004-- Clicking under load on the ground should be the belt. You have a temp fix right now with flipping the diff but luckly the whole bag of pullies is only $7.00!
:)

[Gmanlusk2004]

well, the belt looks good as it is. It's the green belt, so it's heavy duty. I think that i might need to replace the gear. Any idea what those run for?

L8r,
Garrett

[Casper]

I just said this in my last post. The whole bag of pullies for this car is only $7.00 this is the front and rear diff gears along with the the front rear belt pully and both side belt pullies.

[Gmanlusk2004]

ok.. i got confused, because you started talking about the belt, then you switched to pulleys.... i misread, thinking that you said the whole kit of belts was only 7 bux. It was actually 7.50... i'm surprised it cost so much. but i'll be prepared if it happens again.

L8r,
Garrett

[Casper]

$7.00 for all the pullies is cheap to me. You get 5 gears in the bag. One diff gear for a 2wd car is $2.50-$3.00. I guess that is my point.

[Maxxcrazy]

got any tips for a newbie racer with a fast xx4?

heres my setup:
XX4 worlds ed.
Trinity D5
Novak cyclone
i dunno what radio yet prolly xs3
blue screw kit
hw body

[shadmaster4]

Hey, with the blue screw kit, be very careful with the aluminum screws, they strip easily, and be very careful on the ones with small hex heads...I have a ton of my screws stripped....

[shadmaster4]

Hey, I am having a ton of interference. I can only go about 100feet, then it glitches out. I have a Futaba 2channel pistol grip 75mhz am radio (the cheapo), and its matching reciever. I have the graphite chassis, and a lot of graphite parts. Also, if this plays a factor, i run a "duratrax streak" esc, and a rush 15x2 motor. I have it set up so, my motor is in its spot, the esc is right next to it, towards the back, then the six cells, and on top of the drivetrain, next to the antenna tube, I have my reciever super glued to the chassis. I have a small hole about an inch up from the bottom of the antenna. What is wrong? Is glueing the esc and reciever strait to the graphite chassis causing problems? And if so, how would I fix it.? Is it just the XX4, because none of my other cars, with graphite/carbon fiber chassis' do this. And I have even swithed recievers/esc/radio, just to test it to make shure it is still good, and it is the same? Thanks- Zack

[Maxxcrazy]

i'd say velcro your reciever standing up rite on the chassis cover.

[shadmaster4]

Hey, I will try that.!

[Maxxcrazy]

any one else have a problem with their ball ends poping off? how can i fix this so they stay on securly?

[shadmaster4]

Mine just started doing that yesterday. Wierd. Um,.....Maybe its time for new ball ends?

[shadmaster4]

hey, wuts the lowest turn motor u all have thrown in the XX4? I've put a 12t in it, and at high speeds, if I do a quick turn, it will roll over. Man, a brushless or a 5-6t would be awsome!

[Maxxcrazy]

i have a 10x1 D5 flatliner in mine. does 35+ and suprisingly doesnt roll in turns

[cabbynate]

Casper,
Wass up???? How have ya been?
I was just wondering what your take was one the new XXX-4?
It's been out for a while and I just wanted to know what you though about it.
(Although I have one you can you can hurt my feeling about it if you like. I can take it).http://www.handykult.de/plaudersmilies.de/yellows/lechz.gif

Cabby

[PAPA MOOSE]

Rear hinge pin braces MooseMotorsports style are back on e-bay for the XX4 2- for 15 for you and your buddy!

[shadmaster4]

i got a 10 turn today and a no limit esc.....I decided to try a 30tooth pinion, and man, it was fast as crazy, but it got hot fast. So I now have a 24tooth on it. What would you suggest?

[Maxxcrazy]

a 24 seems a bit high. I run a 16T pinion with a purple spur

[shadmaster4]

16t? thats low, I used to run a 15turn with a 20tooth, and the esc (15turn limit) never got hot.

[Maxxcrazy]

http://www.******.net/view_single.php?medid=2850

[shadmaster4]

I saw that, nice....I'll have to post a vid of mine....

[Maxxcrazy]

Thats with a 16T pinion and a 84T spur

[shadmaster4]

what radios do you all use with your XX4's? I'm using a futaba magnum fm....and how do you mount the reciever? Hey, post some pics of your car's. I'll get mine up as soon as it stops raining%

[speedydave]

Hey guys. I have an opportunity to get a used XX4 in a trade. It would probably only be run during the winter indoor season, when there's a real class for these, but it would still be raced hard then. Because of that, I'm worried about parts availability. What parts should I stock up on, since Losi doesn't really back the car any more? Thanks.

[shadmaster4]

get it, it is a great car.....here is what i suggest you get:

2-3 front shock towers
2-3 front bulkheads
the b3 front brace(even though i have never used it)
rear brace
1-2 rear shock towers.
1 spare front and rear suspension arm...


what radio do you have? unless you have some really awsome pcm or nice fm radio...i would get the composite chassis (aka stock plastic). The graphite one really kills your radio range if you are using am. I got like 50feet with am radio, on a worlds chassis.

what are the specs of the car you are getting, and what are you trading?

[speedydave]

I'm not 100% sure this is going to happen yet.... It was going to be a Kyosho Landmax 2 roller(possibly no engine) for the buggy, an LRP no-motor-limit ESC, motor, and some other stuff. I'm currently running a Futaba 3PDF, but I've been planning on upgrading to an M8 sometime, just not sure when. I've been using this radio with my Mugen XR with no problems, so I'm sure it can handle the XX4. Here's a pic.

http://www.******.net/media/xx4.jpg

[shadmaster4]

hey, maybe if the guy gave you some batts and other stuff that would be fair, but otherwise, don't include your engine...you can get an xx4 like yours for $70-80+ LRP no limit esc for like $70 + $30 motor...thats like $200.. and a landmax is worth a whole lot more....i think if you traded your landmax without engine for this, it would be fair. IMO

[Chris Wolfson]

Ok, I figure I'd throw out my XX4 problem for your opinions (I know a few of them will be smart answers like "buy a XXX4" :-)). Here's the skinny. Rebuilt my XX4 completely. New pulleys, aluminum shafts, new diffs, new slipper, new bearings, new clicker, new everything.....The clicker on the car was just about locked up. For some reason the friction seemed to be between the 2 plastic pieces of the clicker. I greased it, and it was better, but still not as smooth as the old setup. Solutions ranged from greasing the clicker, which I did, to taking a file and going to work on the plastic clicker until it was smoother. Any thoughts/solutions on this problem?

[shadmaster4]

i don't quite understand the clicker problem...you couldn't get a picture of it? Anyways, in my personal opinion, the new XXX4 sucks....i havn't driven it, but it looks weak. The only thing i like about it, is the fact that if you break a shock tower, you don't have to completely take apart the 10 screwes and bulkhead to get it off....I also like how the spur gear hooks up, but the XX4 is much better....do your self a favor and rebuild completely...the XX4 is a great car...BTW, has anyone tested which is faster, with exact same hardware?

[Northerner]

i got my xx4 we a few weeks ago and i absolutely love it. its so much fun to drive and it goes exactly wherever you steer it on the track!

i already have a second car as a backup or for parts, my worlds car is pretty tricked out with all the goodies so im sure i will be racing it for awhile!

[Maxxcrazy]

I'm gonna start racing soon. But I sent trinity my batts, and I havent gotten a call for like 2 months. I'd be racing if it wasn't for this.

[RogueRacing]

the only real advantage the xxx-4 has over the xx-4 is parts availability and easier belt and diff maintence. the xx-4 is a great car as long as you take care of it. also if your not the greatest driver you should just keep away from the graphite. graphite breaks easier and i still don't soo why everyone wants to make thier off road vehicles so light. I'd take durability over wieght any day. i rather finish the race than break my car and go home early empty handed. onroad cars i can see but offroad cars it doesn't make much sense.

p.s. it takes about the same effort to take off the shock towers of either buggy. four screws on each and the shocks and ballstuds.

[shadmaster4]

i agree with rogue racing...i now, personally hate graphite on off-road cars. I broke my xx4 in half, in the front....And guess what? it was a graphite piece..I have never broken my stadium truck (old mt10s all plastic) on the same jumps.. Oh well, i just ordered some new plastic replacement parts.

[Maxxcrazy]

Hi, Can someone get a pic of the instruction manual where it says how to build the front diff. Thanks

[shadmaster4]

Hey, I don't think anyone here has the instruction manual. Go to team losi's web-site and download the exploded views.

[Maxxcrazy]

thanks. i found it

[PeTroL420]

hey, is the xx-4 chassis the same size as the street weapon. I have an almost new street weapon and I wanna convert it to a xx-4. Also, does anybody know if the gear ratios are the same?

[teamlosiisback]

you would need new longer a-arms, and dogbones, and shocks, and front bumber, and so much more, it would jsut be cheaper to buy a xx4. Me and the LHS guy, where talking bout it one time when we were bored. But ya jsut dont waste the time and money.

[MXMHERO]

Hey guys caspers website doesnt work, does anybody have any info or pictures of the B3 front brace mod. thx. Joe

[shadmaster4]

The street weapon chassis is shorter... Although I have the XX4 world ed. and the street weapon chassis, and I swap them sometimes.... The only difference is that the chassies is shorter, and the Rear (long) belt is also shorter. The middle and front belts are the same. You will need longer shocks, a-arms, pivot stuff...and the rest...

[Maxxcrazy]

Still got my XX4, but i fryed a cyclone. Gonna send it to novak, hopefully I'll get it back before I build my track again.

I made tower braces, its just thin aluminum that goes over both sides of the shock towers.
http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/8/web/416000-416999/416797_53_full.jpg

[streetracer]

Theres got to be more of you Die Hard losi fans, that have a pic of ur xx-4's. lets get this thing Crunked!

Kyle

[streetracer]

check this out!

[streetracer]

WAKE UP PPL! :eek:

[Aluma]

anyone know what LOSI gold compound and HT compound tires are compared to LOSI red, silver, and pink?

[streetracer]

Havent a clue.

got my XX-4 last week, and this thing is awsome.
Im hopen to race it this weekend at my track, and win of course;) . this buggy came with enough parts to build nother one, and evry upgrade possible to get for it.


If anyone needs any parts, let me know, i have plenty. Graphite a arms, shock towers, almost everything graphite.

Kyle

[shadmaster4]

Hey, I'm back..I have been messin with my XX4 almost every day..for the last year..Sad kinda..haha...but I wanna make this thing trick.. - Zack

[primuswoostinkinhoo]

i just baught a brand new xx4(it looks that way and he claims it is) not the worlds tho, for 55 bucks, hopefully it gets here in time to race it sunday, i cant wait, ill probably go to the hobby store friday and stock up on parts, any sugestions, ive seen guys running xxx4s at my track are using epoxy on the spindles and what not, and they say they are supoer tough when you do that, what other parts are breaking, any upgrades ill need right away, cause im just getting the plain ole stock one

[Maxxcrazy]

Just fully rebuilt my XX4. I even made new tower braces outta 1/16th aluminum


Gold compound, never heard of it, but I know that red is super soft and silver is med-soft

primus, they are really tough without the graphite. The only part I've ever broken in just under a year is my rear belt. But that was becuase the set screw came out of my pinion and lodged itself in the belt. I've never broken my spindles, they seem durable w/o epoxy.


street racer, you have an extra chassis? I might be interested, a bunch of holes are stripped in mine.

[primuswoostinkinhoo]

i got one of my xx4s in the mail on saturday, its a streer weapon converted to xx4. it also has ae shocks on it with shafts that are way to long so i limited the crud outa them. it was missing the rear bones so i baught the ones outa the manual, and they were two short even after i got the shock shafts to the right lenght. then i noticed the rear hinge pin holders were the wrong ones so i put the right ones on and the bones are still too short. after a supreme shim job i got the thing to run. but not at the track when i was doing most of this work. i only got to drive it outside and not for very long as i seemed to be way overgeared my motor and batts were a lil to hot.

anyone have a gearing chart for the xx4? ill be running mod only probably between a 10 11 or 12 double as those are the 3 mod motors i have

hopefully i get my second xx4 in the mail wednessday, the one thats actually a xx4 not a street weapon and by comparing them can figure the dogbone problem out.

[primuswoostinkinhoo]

here are some pics of my sw converted xx4
http://img6.photobucket.com/albums/v16/mbxb4/cars/xx4top.jpg
http://img6.photobucket.com/albums/v16/mbxb4/cars/xx4notop1.jpg
http://img6.photobucket.com/albums/v16/mbxb4/cars/xx4side.jpg

[microrcdude]

nice dog!!!!! J/K man that car is clean!!!

[primuswoostinkinhoo]

the dog would definatly outrun the car on the track, belle is her name and shes got super dooper tires on all four corners, losi pink tapers cant compete

[primuswoostinkinhoo]

got a question for anyone thats reading this thread anymore. my xx4 is concerted from a street weapon and im getting some belt skiping, i replaced the belts with the higher performance street weapon ones and as i was going through the xx4 manual i saw something called a belt roller, when i was changing the belts i didnt see anything like that. what is it, and will it stop the skiping?

[TurboFC3S]

Does anybody still stock parts for this car? I just picked one up and need a few thing. Or if anybody has a bix XX4 parts lot to sell, pm me.

[primuswoostinkinhoo]

stormer still has parts horizon still has parts and even my lhs still stocks xx4 parts, most parts are not hard to find at all, what kinda stuff you looking for?

[TurboFC3S]

The stuff that breaks ... since so few people still race them, I'm hoping for a lot of parts cheap. Somebody cleaning out the closet.

[primuswoostinkinhoo]

your gonna have to look on ebay if you want a ton of parts for cheap, theres plenty of whole cars going for 45 to 60 bucks, i myself did just that, ive got a parts car my race car, and i buy all the parts that i can find from hobby stores, what i really want is a manual with a gearing chart of some sort

[Maxxcrazy]

Nice XX4, Nice Dog too. Ya the belt tensioner will help the skipping because they don't come with one.

http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/8/web/416000-416999/416797_80.jpg

[Northerner]

if anyone is looking for an awesome setup i am selling my whole xx4 racing operation!

Losi XX4 Worlds Edition 4x4 buggy:
blue aluminum wing mounts
blue aluminum shock mounts
blue aluminum threaded shock collars
blue aluminum servo mount
blue aluminum motor mount
blue aluminum front brace
titanium outdrive protectors
titanium turnbuckles
blue rpm ball cups
all graphite chassis, towers, arms, etc...
threaded aluminum shocks,
near new studded tires
pit boxes w/ TONS of new spare parts like:
belts
a-arms
shock towers,
motor mounts
servo mounts
bearings
springs
manuals
and a LOT more...
a complete racing operation $350 (plus shipping)
everything that is used is in MINT condition!!

email me if interested!!

[cabbynate]

:) :D :eek:

[cabbynate]

anyone know what LOSI gold compound and HT compound tires are compared to LOSI red, silver, and pink?

Gold compound is harder than silver. HT is really old. I'm not sure what you can compare it to.

[Maxxcrazy]

My XX4
http://mini-zracer.com/albums/album295/xx47_001.jpg
http://mini-zracer.com/albums/album295/xx48.jpg
http://mini-zracer.com/albums/album295/xx49.jpg
http://mini-zracer.com/albums/album295/xx50.jpg
http://mini-zracer.com/albums/album295/xx51.jpg
http://mini-zracer.com/albums/album295/xx52.jpg
http://mini-zracer.com/albums/album295/xx53.jpg
http://mini-zracer.com/albums/album295/xx54.jpg
http://mini-zracer.com/albums/album295/xx55.jpg
http://mini-zracer.com/albums/album295/xx56.jpg
http://mini-zracer.com/albums/album295/xx57.jpg

Custom:
Chassis cutout with electric tape to keep dirt out
10.75 wheelbase
Rear lower shock mounts
Epoxy'd spindles
Aluminum tower braces
Maxx springs in rear

[Maxxcrazy]

Its forsale, contact me rageweapon16@yahoo.com

[shadmaster4]

Anyone here have any spare front and middle belts? Mine just blew out. LMK- zack

[TurboFC3S]

Anybody still running these? I'm going to clean mine up and try running it starting this Spring at the local dirt track ... I could probably use some parts if anybody have stuff to sell.

[Northerner]

Losi XX4 Worlds Edition 4x4 buggy:

blue aluminum wing mounts
blue aluminum shock mounts
blue aluminum threaded shock collars
blue aluminum servo mount
blue aluminum motor mount
blue aluminum front brace
titanium outdrive protectors
titanium turnbuckles
blue rpm ball cups
all graphite chassis, towers, arms, etc...
threaded aluminum shocks,
near new studded tires
spare set of brand new tires/wheels
pit boxes w/ TONS of new spare parts like:
belts
a-arms
shock towers,
motor mounts
servo mounts
bearings
springs
2 split racing battery packs
2 custom painted bodies
spare chassis
and a LOT more...
a complete racing operation
all in excellent or new shape

$215 shipped w/o storage boxes

PAYPAL OR MONEY ORDER ACCEPTED

(paypal confirmed addresses only)

http://www.flash-headers.com/rc/xx4-01.jpg

http://www.flash-headers.com/rc/xx4-02.jpg

http://www.flash-headers.com/rc/xx4-03.jpg

[Northerner]

http://www.flash-headers.com/rc/xx4-04.jpg

http://www.flash-headers.com/rc/xx4-05.jpg

http://www.flash-headers.com/rc/xx4-06.jpg

http://www.flash-headers.com/rc/xx4-08.jpg

http://www.flash-headers.com/rc/xx4-09.jpg

[TurboFC3S]

You've had a hard time trying to sell that bad boy haven't you :) I made you an offer about a month ago which still stands if interested - $185 shipped. I know it's worth way more than that realistically.

[shadmaster4]

I offered him a deal last year ($200)... he was like F-U, even on another board... Looks like you prize your stuff too much. Try e-bay!

[Cain]

Not a bad looking XX-4. With guys now going with the X-5 conversion may get a buyer on that.

How many of you guys are going to try the X-5 conversion?

[microrcdude]

I saw a local guy give a pro a god run for his money with the X-5. And the pro had the BJ4.

[Cain]

Most of the vehicles nowadays in 4wd in the hands of capable driver are close to each other in performance with small advantages / disadvantages to each.

There is someone local here that has an X-5 and when the point series starts up in the summer I will be racing against him. Should be nice to see how the vehicle handles. We look to have a good variety, BJ4x4s, XX-4s, X-5s, SB Pros and sports, XXX-4s, etc. 4wd sure has variety, just need more people.

[TurboFC3S]

I'm having fun still with my XX-4. Just got done rebuilding my primary car top to bottom, used Acer diff balls and AE black grease ... sanded down the diff rings with 1200 grit sandpaper, and put in new outdrive bearings. What a difference that made! It feels like butter now. Also rebuilt my shocks and topped them off with fresh oil, one had a slightly bent shaft that I couldn't see until I took them apart. I polished all my hinge pins and ball studs. Rebuilt the clicker with a fresh slipper pad, and just cleaned cleaned cleaned everything.

After doing all that I found a few race winning setup sheets on the teamlosi website and set the car to those specs. The final touch was adding my tuned 8x2 D6 motor and motor heatsink :) Oh, and a fresh set of tires front and rear.

As soon as it dries out enough, I'm going to take it up to the local dirt track and see how she does. But for now it's just sitting pretty on my shelf. I almost don't want to run it, it's so clean!

[Menace]

Does anyone know where I can find info on the X-5 conversion?

Thanks, Greg

[br93lx]

http://www.4wdrc.com/

[Menace]

Thanks for the info!

[teamlosiracer]

Hey Guys, Im going to be in this forum alot. I am getting a Losi XX4 Worlds Edition very soon (In the mail) The guy said it needs belts. Can you tell me what belts I need ? I also heard that theres a belt in the front and in the transmission but a shaft drive is connected to the transmission to drive the rear wheels. Is this true ?

there is no shaft to the rear wheeles on the xx-4

[RCBASHERFREAK50]

Im gettn mine this weekend :)

[alexrckid]

rumor has it that horizon's gonna be offering all the XX4 parts....maybe in november.....................

[alexrckid]

XX4 worlds edition will be re-released in mid november.............

[GT Freak]

too bad they run saddle packs :( , id like to try one of these cars :)

[alexrckid]

this is off of a horizon hobbies newslatter that i get......................................World Champion XX-4 Makes A Comeback!
Team Losi is pleased to announce that, due to popular demand, the XX-4 (LOSA0011) is being re-released as a "Limited Edition" graphite kit. The XX-4 four-wheel drive buggy ruled the raceways around the world for years but, as the trend in tracks moved to smoother, well-groomed surfaces, the XXX-4 was developed to take advantage of the new breed of motor and batteries. In 2005, major events were run on rough, rutted tracks and the XX-4 ruled again, winning both the European Championships as well as the last two rounds of the prestigious UK 4WD championship along with the 2005 BRCA Junior and Regional Championships. Needless to say, racers want it, so Team Losi will make it available as before. All the same graphite, titanium and machined aluminum parts are included to build the World Champion rough track wonder. All parts have been and will remain available as well. Look for the Worlds Limited Edition XX-4 Graphite kit to be available in Mid November.

[teamlosiracer]

this is off of a horizon hobbies newslatter that i get......................................World Champion XX-4 Makes A Comeback!
Team Losi is pleased to announce that, due to popular demand, the XX-4 (LOSA0011) is being re-released as a "Limited Edition" graphite kit. The XX-4 four-wheel drive buggy ruled the raceways around the world for years but, as the trend in tracks moved to smoother, well-groomed surfaces, the XXX-4 was developed to take advantage of the new breed of motor and batteries. In 2005, major events were run on rough, rutted tracks and the XX-4 ruled again, winning both the European Championships as well as the last two rounds of the prestigious UK 4WD championship along with the 2005 BRCA Junior and Regional Championships. Needless to say, racers want it, so Team Losi will make it available as before. All the same graphite, titanium and machined aluminum parts are included to build the World Champion rough track wonder. All parts have been and will remain available as well. Look for the Worlds Limited Edition XX-4 Graphite kit to be available in Mid November.


How much is it going to be :confused:

[Maxxcrazy]

Whats so hard about soldering up some special packs? Thats a weak reason not to buy a sweet car.

Lets just hope the next four wheeler from Losi is designed from scratch, like the XX4 was. Then they might get it right. But atleast they are trying, unlike AE.

I still miss my XX4, but I have a TT01 turned buggy now.

[alexrckid]

maxxcrazy....i've gotta agree....soldering up some sadle packs is no big deal....i've run a (brushless)XX4 this past season and have no problem putting XXX4's away.....great truck and glad to see losi re-releasing it....nice to be able to get parts, too...........

[knucklebusta]

Could someone please post a list of parts I need for the XX-4. Todd from losi said parts would be available in December. I just bought another xxx-4 roller as a spare and a used xx-4 roller as well. I know nothing about the XX-4 as far as the drivetrain, clicker, and 3 belt system. If someone could compile a list of consumables on this car it would be appreciated. After all it's only 2005 and we still can't make plastics that don't break :rolleyes:

I'm probably going to buy an additional xx-4 new as well. This roller will be a spare as well.

Thanks, Kevin

[alexrckid]

go onto the HORIZON hobbies website and search "XX4".........you'll see lots of XX4 parts..most available now or soon. the losi p/n for the XX4 worlds is LOSA0011...........only yhing that doesnt come up in the search is trhe front and mid belts(LOSA 3202, i think........).

[knucklebusta]

Hey, can someone make a new thread "XX-4 Returns V.2.0 or something? I can't make a new post in this forum for some reason.

Kevin

[alexrckid]

kevin.try posting again........

[knucklebusta]

bump

[alexrckid]

i'm rebuilding a used XX4 worlds that i got and am wondering what the HOLE IN THE LAYSHAFT (accessed from the outside via a 1/4 button head screw hole) is for..?????? seems to lock the drive train for some kind of an adjustment...just dont know WHAT KIND of an adjustment.............?????

[br93lx]

It's how you adjust the diffs and set the slipper.

Here's a link for 4wdrc.com to find the manuals if you don't have them.

http://home.comcast.net/~chadt/Manuel_Losi_XX4_AN.pdf

http://bis.midco.net/yokomo-mx4/misc/XX-4_Worlds_Edition_Addendum_Manual/

[Maxxcrazy]

Could someone please post a list of parts I need for the XX-4. Todd from losi said parts would be available in December. I just bought another xxx-4 roller as a spare and a used xx-4 roller as well. I know nothing about the XX-4 as far as the drivetrain, clicker, and 3 belt system. If someone could compile a list of consumables on this car it would be appreciated. After all it's only 2005 and we still can't make plastics that don't break :rolleyes:

I'm probably going to buy an additional xx-4 new as well. This roller will be a spare as well.

Thanks, Kevin

Wing Mounts
Front Arms
Bulkheads
Belts
Outdrives (If you use plastic)

[alexrckid]

br931x....thank you very much...these manuals are EXACTLY what i needed...

[FRANKIECMGT]

ok..it's been awile that anyone has posted here so i thought i better to keep this fourm going.....dose anyone know where i can get some front ifmar pins...i know they stopped making them..but there must be some out there sitting in a box....lmk..thanks

[microrcdude]

try www.stormerhobbies.com i think they have a discontinued bin

[alexrckid]

any opinions on which setting to use(inside or outside) on the steering bellcranks on a XX4................ive been led to believe that the inside holes are better for a tight track.

[knucklebusta]

First person to offer me $375 takes these home. Pay pal only.
email me at kfarrelldba@verizon.net. We'll split the shipping. USA only

One is a xx-4 non worlds but has been upgraded with graphite parts. Pristine condition
The other is about 1 month old. XX-4 worlds edition.
Both have been upgraded with MIP cvd's. Other upgrades as well. Spare parts included belts, pulleys, towers and front a-arms. 4 bodies included as well. Will not part out. Selling the whole shebang as a package. If I don't get any offers today, this goes up on ebay.

My ebay id is knuckleslammer and I have 100% + feedback. The guys at RC Excitement in fitchburg, MA know me (Kevin) and although I am a basher, I keep my stuff in A-1 condition.
http://www.thenaughtynurse.net/xx4/a.JPG
http://www.thenaughtynurse.net/xx4/b.JPG
http://www.thenaughtynurse.net/xx4/c.JPG
http://www.thenaughtynurse.net/xx4/d.JPG
http://www.thenaughtynurse.net/xx4/e.JPG
http://www.thenaughtynurse.net/xx4/f.JPG
http://www.thenaughtynurse.net/xx4/g.JPG
http://www.thenaughtynurse.net/xx4/h.JPG
http://www.thenaughtynurse.net/xx4/i.JPG
http://www.thenaughtynurse.net/xx4/j.JPG
http://www.thenaughtynurse.net/xx4/k.JPG
http://www.thenaughtynurse.net/xx4/l.JPG
http://www.thenaughtynurse.net/xx4/m.JPG

[alexrckid]

since LOSI doesnt offer a rear sway bar for the XX4, did anyone have any luck making their own..??.......seems that travis a. uses one on his winning XX4.(.055 diameter bar).

[cabbynate]

since LOSI doesnt offer a rear sway bar for the XX4, did anyone have any luck making their own..??.......seems that travis a. uses one on his winning XX4.(.055 diameter bar).
You can make one out of piano wire..055 if you like. The one from the xxx4 might fit? I'm not sure. I forgot how it looked but I made one for my old xx4. I seen the one on MF's xx4 and copped it.

[alexrckid]

thanks..........contacted travis, himself, at losi.he sent me an actual picture of his arrangement.................works great and he's a very good rep for the losi company.

[cabbynate]

thanks..........contacted travis, himself, at losi.he sent me an actual picture of his arrangement.................works great and he's a very good rep for the losi company.
Well don't hold out on us, post a pic of your masterpice!!!!!!!! ;)

[alexrckid]

would like to but i have no clue how to put a picture that i got as e-mail into a post...............

[alexrckid]

but, suffice to say, just use the parts from LOSA 4257 to attach a piece of .055 piano wire(that you bend yourself) to attach that wire to the "leading" side of the rear shock tower, screw some ball ends into the trailing sides of the rear a-arms. with a piece of either a threaded rod of LONG hew/set screw attach ball ends"back-to-back". attach one end of this deal to the ball end on the a-arm and the other end to the end of the piano with(use a set-screw/ball end that comes with the LOSA 4257 set. i know that a "picture is worth a million words"....hope this helps. i can say that the sway bar really makes a difference (along with two-stage proline firm inserts) on any smooth to moderate track................

[cabbynate]

would like to but i have no clue how to put a picture that i got as e-mail into a post...............
It's cool. I was just razzin ya. You can however right click on the photo and save it into your photo's and then grab it from there. You would have to resize it though. Or you can forward the email to me and I can post it.
By the way, what batteries are ya running? I my get a XX4 WE and want to no if the new 3600,3800 and 4200's fit?
nateholl3@cs.com

[alexrckid]

sent ya the photo...

[cabbynate]

sent ya the photo...
Drum roll please............................................ .:D
You guys can thank me later!!!!!!! ;) J/K

[alexrckid]

thanks, CABBYMATE.......what do you think...???

[cabbynate]

thanks, CABBYMATE.......what do you think...???
That is the best looking setup for the XX4 I have seen yet!!! ;)

[alexrckid]

it's TRAVIS AMEZCUA's sway bar set up. ...... i'm sure that it really works well. it looks every bit as good as something that SHOULD have an "official" LOSI part number...........

[alexrckid]

i'm running matched proline 3800's.............work great with the novak brushless that i've got in my XX4/worlds....had a few "A" main wins last season(only ran the XX4 for the last few weeks of the racing season. did a total rebuild(including a new chassis) over the winter. will be even better this season. trying two-stage firm inserts in the rears along with the sway bar....the track that i race at(xtreme in new milford, ct) is rather smooth but very technical.......

[cabbynate]

i'm running matched proline 3800's.............work great with the novak brushless that i've got in my XX4/worlds....had a few "A" main wins last season(only ran the XX4 for the last few weeks of the racing season. did a total rebuild(including a new chassis) over the winter. will be even better this season. trying two-stage firm inserts in the rears along with the sway bar....the track that i race at(xtreme in new milford, ct) is rather smooth but very technical.......
Sounds good. Are you having a problem with to much rear traction? If your not the sway bar may make your rear end loose though you say the track it technical so it might make it easier to get the rear end around some of the tight stuff. You have done well in this class so I'm sure you no what your doing. Keep it up!!!!!!!! Glad to here the 3800's fit. If I cop a xx4 that is what I will run. Also your right. Losi needs to add this to there xx4 hop ups.

[cabbynate]

The cool thing about sway bars is to disable them you just remove one side of the links like in the photo on the right side.

[alexrckid]

cabbynate.....TRINITY outdrives..???......you lucky dawg.......!!!! been looking on ebay for them(trinity's) for awhile, now......super hard to come by, but good to have. wish the "new" losi outdrives(for the gen 2 diffs) would fit...they have a "saver ring"..........

[cabbynate]

Yea, I have the gen11 composite outdrives on my MF2. They are sweet. Ryan Cav made some of the Losi rings fit using a Dremel tool...............

[twistedrcracer]

Well Nobody Has Posted On Here In Awile So...bump It..

[cabbynate]

I just got this so I will be posting more here. What do ya think about the deal? Everything is in like new condition....... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=6041516074&ssPageName=STRK:MEWN:IT

[T/Losi]

Does anyone know if someone packs saddle packs pre assembled?

Cheers

[cabbynate]

I think you can have www.promatchracing.com make them up for you.

[alexrckid]

promatch will DEFINATELY make saddles for you........

[mrbelvedere]

does anyone make metal drive gears for the diffs on the xx4 i keep melting the centers out of them and loose my diff balls im runninganovack gtb brushless 6.5

mrb

[Platymeris]

Hi everyone, I have a XX-4 World's Edition on order, I can't wait to build and run it, I plan on running a Novak brushless setup, and a Spektrum radio. I just have one question. I read a review stating that the XX-4 servo mounts are not designed to fit newer Hitec servos. I'd prefer to buy a servo that fits the mounts properly, would servos from say, JR, or Airtronics work? What servos do people on here generally use?

[microrcdude]

i use Hitec, you should be fine. Id say try to fit the servo, if it doesnt work get a good servo from futaba or airtronics.

[Platymeris]

This is looking pretty good to me. http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=AIR94360Z

[Smib]

Sorry if this has been brought up, but I don't have time to read twenty pages. Does anyone know where I can get RPM arms for my XX4?

[FRANKIECMGT]

Sorry To Say...rpm Don't Make Arms For The Xx-4. I Have One And I Wish They Did To...lol

[mo4040]

Since the XX4 has been recently re-released, I thought I'd show a couple of pics of my XX4's w/ the Losi Class 8 truck body...

this one is my "beater" for practicing and thrashing about:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v446/mo4040/107_0780.jpg

this one is my "works" truck w/ all of the goodies:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v446/mo4040/107_0782.jpg

[iluvmud]

heres my xx4......i just got finished rebuilding it........and painting it, i actually really really like the paint job i put on it......... heres a link since i dont know how to post pics
http://www.ultimaterc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=69121

hope you can see them, i havent taken pics with the wing on it just yet, but its done and mounted just havent snapped pics yet

MUD

[tadium54]

hey gang. just got a xx-4 today in a trade. looks pretty good. are parts for it still availiable?

[Losi motor man]

I have a xx4 Graphite Plus, No Thats NOt My Problem for all you Smart ass AE Drivers . Ok Anyway on to the problem. I have built and rebuilt tis thing about 6 timesnow and when I get it all set I get a Battery in it ANd I put it on theground It sounds like something is grinding . I thought it was the spur gear It might have been a lil to big ( went from a 84t to an 88t ) but its not !

Ok I am gonna try to give you guys as much info on what I did to it !

1- I took it apart and inspected all belts and drive gears. I even Installed New ones ( belts and Gears ) None are worn or missing teeth or anything like that.

2- Checked all bearing that hold Idle shaft , Oneway and spur gear Bearing, All diff brearings and Carriers,

3- I have oiled and greased alll moving parts Percisely to the Instructions .

I am not new to this Hobby But This is bothering me and I cannot seem to figure this lil Problem out.

I have taken all the time to slowly manually Move belts whe there installed trying to listen real careful to alll gears and bearings they make no sound . I put the cover on the belt channel and for some reason the clicking ( not the one way Clicker) starts.

Ok I will explaine what i mean by Clicking as well as I can.
You remember when you were young and you put a baseball card in your spokes to get hat Sound Its a very Light sound just like that but Its only when i have the Car together and sittin on the ground. I hit the Throttle nice and slow and it starts BURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR is the sound.

I thought It might have been a Flat spot on the spur gear But No thats NOt it ( installed a new Spur gear Many times .

I would appreciate any help or Ideas that anyone MIght have for me to check It just started This wed. And I cannot track it down or fix it

Thyank you for anyone that Helps out On this problem I have the car in peices on the work bench so I will try anything you post Within reason !

Rebuild tips for this problem are WELCOMED TY

Losi Motor Man :(

[Losi motor man]

Yest Try this site >>>http://www.teamlosi.com/partlist/index.htm For parts to the xx4, or >>>> http://www.losipartshouse.com/servlet/StoreFront or >>> http://www.madisonvillagehobby.com/

This for Screws >>> http://rcscrewz.com/

This for Stickers >>> http://www.xxxmain.com/

[Losi motor man]

hey gang. just got a xx-4 today in a trade. looks pretty good. are parts for it still availiable?


Yest Try this site >>>http://www.teamlosi.com/partlist/index.htm For parts to the xx4, or >>>> http://www.losipartshouse.com/servlet/StoreFront or >>> http://www.madisonvillagehobby.com/

This for Screws >>> http://rcscrewz.com/

This for Stickers >>> http://www.xxxmain.com/

[JeffEmbracedDC]

hey gang. just got a xx-4 today in a trade. looks pretty good. are parts for it still availiable?

also http://www.horizonhobby.com/Search/Default.aspx?SearchTerm=xx4&CatId=C&PageSize=72

[JeffEmbracedDC]

Hey, guys.

I have an XX4 and I THINK it's a worlds edition. I bought it used a while back and never actually ran it. I think it's a complete car except for a few small parts. So I have a question for you guys. I've always been an associated guy and never really ran losi. I've had about 10 AE cars and this is my first losi and as I mentioned, I've never ran in, built a losi, or taken one apart. So honestly I don't know if it's 100% complete or what. So I am wondering if I should sell it and get one that I know is a solid piece, or if I should put money into rebuilding this. I am very @nal rententive about having everything built right from the beginning be it differentials, shocks, transmissions, etc and I really don't know how it was built. So do you guys think I'd be better off re-building this thing, or selling it and getting a used, but 100% ready rolling chassis? I know it's kind of a stupid question because it's a decision I have to make on my own, but I guess I'd like to hear your opinions. Thanks, guys :)

-J

[JeffEmbracedDC]

Looking for some various parts listed here: http://forums.radiocontrolzone.com/showthread.php?p=2145912

I can pay with PayPal quickly.

Thanks, guys!

-Jeff

[roadrunnerdude]

007yoshi- Tight ain't even the word for that hook-up! Yea you would need to do some dremelin on that rear block but hay, you would have the shizznit!!!

athowells- No, they are not made to go in reverse. They were designed for serious racing for the advanced racer.

;) ;) ;) ;)

yes it can go in reverse..

the front has a one way. so it is easy on the front belt. and for handling purposes..

when you go in reverse it will be like a stadium truck

[ChrisWolfson]

Jeff - not sure what you ultimately did with the XX4, but I'm always wary about buying a used 4wd car. It may end up costing you more in the end to restore it to the condition you want it in than to just buy a new XX4-WE kit.

[JeffEmbracedDC]

Hey, Chris. I bought what I needed to restore it. I just needed a few pieces. Right now I'm waiting on a screw kit to rebuild it. It should be super nice when it's done. I thinnk I spent about $100 on it total including a new body, wing, wheels, tires, spare gear, etc. So it wasn't too bad. :) Thanks.

-J

[RCfroman]

so what are the advantages of having a XX4 over a XXX4 and vice versa? I'm looking at getting one but I cant decide on which one to get.

[ChrisWolfson]

I think you'll find the XX4 to be a bit more durable and handle the rough stuff a bit better. It's downfall is it's more difficult to work on and more time consuming to fix drive train issues.

The XXX4 has awesome acceleration with the single belt drive train - absolutely takes off like a rocket ship. It's far easier to work on and takes batteries built in a standard style rather than saddle packs. Some people feel it's a bit more "fragile" than the XX4 and doesn't go through the rough stuff as well. I think the car can handle pretty well if you get a good setup on it. It might depend alot on what type of track you run on as to what car you want to get.

[roadrunnerdude]

I have a xx4 Graphite Plus, No Thats NOt My Problem for all you Smart ass AE Drivers . Ok Anyway on to the problem. I have built and rebuilt tis thing about 6 timesnow and when I get it all set I get a Battery in it ANd I put it on theground It sounds like something is grinding . I thought it was the spur gear It might have been a lil to big ( went from a 84t to an 88t ) but its not !

Ok I am gonna try to give you guys as much info on what I did to it !

1- I took it apart and inspected all belts and drive gears. I even Installed New ones ( belts and Gears ) None are worn or missing teeth or anything like that.

2- Checked all bearing that hold Idle shaft , Oneway and spur gear Bearing, All diff brearings and Carriers,

3- I have oiled and greased alll moving parts Percisely to the Instructions .

I am not new to this Hobby But This is bothering me and I cannot seem to figure this lil Problem out.

I have taken all the time to slowly manually Move belts whe there installed trying to listen real careful to alll gears and bearings they make no sound . I put the cover on the belt channel and for some reason the clicking ( not the one way Clicker) starts.

Ok I will explaine what i mean by Clicking as well as I can.
You remember when you were young and you put a baseball card in your spokes to get hat Sound Its a very Light sound just like that but Its only when i have the Car together and sittin on the ground. I hit the Throttle nice and slow and it starts BURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR is the sound.

I thought It might have been a Flat spot on the spur gear But No thats NOt it ( installed a new Spur gear Many times .

I would appreciate any help or Ideas that anyone MIght have for me to check It just started This wed. And I cannot track it down or fix it

Thyank you for anyone that Helps out On this problem I have the car in peices on the work bench so I will try anything you post Within reason !

Rebuild tips for this problem are WELCOMED TY

Losi Motor Man :(


maybe you rounded out the front clicker...

you ever give that a check...

do a load test on it. take out the rear belt.
put the front wheels on the ground..
and blip the throttle..
if the front end dosent turn and you hear that noise. its the clicker..

you should always have your silipper properly adjusted