XXX-S Forum v1.0

[Dj Kumara]

A$580 is a very good deal considering the brand new price tag. But, I got one here brand new with no discount for NZ$640 (about A$550). I think the hobby shop bought them through a new supplier this time which could explain for the price difference.

[minijosh]

who makes a hex hub to use on the xxx-s to use normal wheels? plastic or aluminum doesn't matter.

[XXXS_Bubba]

Uhh... Losi? The XXXS comes with both 6mm and 12mm hubs. If you bought it used or lost 'em, try Trinity's TC3 adapters. Should fit fine.

[xxxkat]

I would use the yokomo alum. ones,they have a pinch bolt so they dont come off.I dont care to much for the O ring ones,It can be a bitch to get them off without doing damage to the O ring.

[mobiusthegreat]

just bought a xxx-s off ebay basic chasis with titanium turnbuckles. need to get a esc radio and motor charger and battery now.... thinking of the gt7, trinity monster stock, jr radio xrs,3,s not sure which. and the novak ionic charger and a 3000-3300 nimh battery. could you guys give me some suggestions please. on these items or maybe a better choice. also what upgrades if any should i get for the car? it came with purple springs in the back and yellows up front. i will be running asphalt. small local track i want to race at in orlando. anyone from here.

thanks

[LouisB]

The GT7 is a great racing ESC:)

Monster Stocks are high RPM, if the track is small you may be better off with a P2K2

All of those radios are good

The Ionic is a good charger, but it is limited by the 4A max charge current.

It might be better to buy a couple of packs (GP3300 seem to be the best at the moment) and spend less on your radio. It depends on how many races there are.

[yeeehaw]

stock up on wheels and tires of different compounds if you run foam. belted slicks is a good choice in tire. I would suggest you get the Duratrax intellipeak charger(cheaper and charges great) or get the hobbico prophet chargers. on the batteries make sure that you don't have to use a spec battery in spec class. if you do get the Trinity spec2k2 assembled battery. other wise get what you can afford.
I would listen to "LouisB" he has experience
Matt

[mobiusthegreat]

what charger do you reccomend? I would like to have a charger that can get to 6a charging, also what is the charging time of a 3300 nimh pack? I would like to stay under 100 bux for an ac/dc charger.
thanks

[yeeehaw]

I would reccomend a
Duratrax cx-10 ac/dc fast charger.
I don't know the specs on the amp's, but it is the one I have got and it is a great charger. you can also go get the duratrax intellipeak twin charger( i don't remember the price tag or the amps)
you said that you will be racing on an asphalt track. does the track put a traction compound on it? if so ask if you can use hair spray on the tires. if not go with Paragon tire sauce or go foams with hard springs.
I know this was off topic but I hope this helps
Matt

[mobiusthegreat]

Thanks for the charger info. the track doesnt allow foams as far as i know and it is unprepped. they convert a parking lot into a track on the weekends. not the best thing but all that is around.

[mobiusthegreat]

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXUF46&P=7
what do you think of this charger. 100 bux duratrax digital pulse charger. i will be ussing nimh so no need to discharge correct? this charger will charge up tp 6.5a and is ac/dc. that cx-10 was cheap but didnt have any peaking functions and i didnt like the timer idea.
thanks again

[yeeehaw]

that is a good pick. nimh cells do not need discharging, I don't think,(something to do with memory) what kind of motor are you running? # of turns?
I will run a 27 turn in the spec class and a 13 double in the mod class
good luck
Matt

[yeeehaw]

I was just wandering
have you race rc before or are you a newb the sport/hobby.
how old are you?
and go to your track and ask a heck of alot of questions.
i am a new racer and plan on getting started soon in this season
good luck
Matt

[mobiusthegreat]

i am 31, i have always played with rc cars mostly nitro though, i havent done electric since the 80's so obviusly it is very different now. i have never raced before but looking forward to it. i plan on running sportsman and stock classes first the next step up is 19turn spec and they have a modified class but from what i understand not many people run it. the track only runs once a month which sucks but at least it is something.

[yeeehaw]

I know it sucks, we run every weekend and we have 3 tracks
I hope you don't mind taking info from a 14 year old. I have never really done nitro but I want to really bad (nitro touring)
good luck and have a good season
Matt

[mobiusthegreat]

nitro is pretty cool. i had two touring cars and now jsut have a 1/8 scale buggy. i am going electric to start racing and to teach my wife how to drive once she gets good at it i will probably go to nitro touring racing, benn checking out the nitro tc3, nice car. also that traxxas 2.5 motor is super impressive, dynoed 1.33hp with a lot of torque it would be perfect for the short track here and cheap like 130 bucks.

[dirtbiker335]

Originally posted by mobiusthegreat
just bought a xxx-s off ebay basic chasis with titanium turnbuckles. need to get a esc radio and motor charger and battery now.... thinking of the gt7, trinity monster stock, jr radio xrs,3,s not sure which. and the novak ionic charger and a 3000-3300 nimh battery. could you guys give me some suggestions please. on these items or maybe a better choice. also what upgrades if any should i get for the car? it came with purple springs in the back and yellows up front. i will be running asphalt. small local track i want to race at in orlando. anyone from here.

thanks


whats the name of the trak ihave a losi and go to tq hobbies all the time

[fast-rc]

need help with picking a body......

should i go 190mm or 200mm, im afraid that 200mm will be too big and stick over the sides.

Also I was lookin at the new hpi elise 2000, that body looks GREAT, but :( I think it will handle poorly.

Another choice would be a pro-line 350z. I think that body would be OK.

Last choice is the new Losi Is body.

Which one will be the best, I want my body to look good but also want a body that handles good.

Got another suggestions?

PS: for xxx-s, just makin sure;)

[xxxsdriver]

190mm body for the xxx-s

[Gutter Ball]

Which new Losi body? My friend likes the Alfa, I REALLY like the Lexus. Seems to be super aerodynamic with lots of downforce (prolly cause of the wing) in the rear.

[jeepboy109]

how fast do these cars go? i want one but want it to be able to keep up with my friends fourmula 1 that goes 40 mph
how fast are the stock???
what motor should i get/? or should i get a motor?
whats the best?

[yeeehaw]

15-30 mph stock
add a 7 turn and a 3300 matched pack and increase the # of teeth on your pinion you could smoke that formula 1
Matt

[jeepboy109]

then who sells a car that could smoke the fourmula 1 stock?
why a 7 turn what the difference between a 27 and 7?

i want this car to go fast
60 mph fast i think ill do what u said yeeehaw

[jeepboy109]

whats the best pinion gear for speed ??? can u give me a link?

[XXXS_Bubba]

I have something that should whoop an F1 with a stock motor. RC10LSS with a Monster Pro stock motor on 7 cells. It's insanely fast with the Monster and just can't be described with an 8 turn D5. It's even for sale ;)

There is no way to say exactly what pinion to use for speed. Too many variables like the motor involved, tire height, traction, aerodynamics of the body, etc.

[jeepboy109]

kool
how much are they new????
what company makes them???

[mobiusthegreat]

what do you guys think of a jr r-1 w/receiver for 250.?

[LouisB]

Associated (http://www.teamassociated.com) make them

If you are going to get a 7 turn motor then you will definitely need a commutator lathe to keep it in good condition. If you get a fast motor then start with the gearing recommended in the manual. It's a little tricky to get a TC up to 60mph but can be done. If you are new to R/C then a TC at 60 will be very hard to control.

[yeeehaw]

a 7 turn motor has more rpm" but less torque than a 27 turn motor. so if you can hit around 21 mph with a 19 turn motor w/ a (i think) 20-22 tooth pinion. you would need around 22-24 teeth to handle the rpm's of the motor. you would also need a highly sleek, high downforce body. smooth course. and a lot of space.
A 7 turn motor W/matched 3300,high downforce,sleek bodyw/ no holes, the chassis lowered alot, harder springs, and foam tires, oh yeah driving skill
I think you can hit your mark.
if you have the money, get the hacker brushless b50 motor.
and look in the artical section of rccaraction and look for the 96.4 mph electric tc3. and read that artical.
I would not do the 27 cells idea though.

if you go brushless or you hit your mark, stay away of tight tracks.
I am trying to hit 40-50 mph w/ a 13double.
Matt

[XXXS_Bubba]

I wouldn't say that a 7 turn necessarily has less torque than a 27 turn. My 8 turn D5 has substantially more apparent torque than my Monster Pro. I say apparent torque because the D5 will spin the tires more easily than the Monster, but that's with each motor's best pinion (23t on the Monster, 20t on the D5). In the 10LSS it really doesn't matter. Just about any motor/pinion combination results in massive, uncontrollable wheelspin unless I crank in a ton of traction control.

[jeepboy109]

whats the difference between a 23t and 12t teeths???

[LouisB]

11 teeth:D

[yeeehaw]

I heared that a D5 has more torque because of the flat windings.
just what I heard.
as to the question from jeepboy
the number of teeth on the pinion.
you can also find an adapter that has a pully and allows you to change the spur gear of your choice. (I don't know of the sight)
this is what I am getting next.
you can lower the teeth on the spur gear and increase the number of teeth on the pinion. it will take you more room to get the top speed but you can propably surpass 60 if you go with a combo like this.
but you need a heck of alot of skill to drive like this.
and you will propably spend aroun 150.00 on the gear and more on the parts you break. be aware that the faster you go the more that can happen.
good luck and keep us posted.
P.S. I heard the torque thing in a column by rccaraction.
I think my 13 turn has more torque than my 27 turn.
Matt

[Lapster]

Hey guys, my belt has one side of it gray.... not blue. Do you guys know what is wrong. The drive train is free and everything feels and lloks fine, except for that. It runs fine.... but what is wrong?

[yeeehaw]

your belt tensioner could be the culprit, or there is a loose piece of (what ever your car is made of) in the belt housing rubbing it
or you just got a gray belt.
Matt

[Lapster]

Haha, I am an idiot.... I got a decal stuck on the inside of the belt "housing", it was silver and my belt rubbed all the color off of it.

[yeeehaw]

yeah I agree with you.
does any body know where I can get an adapter that includes the belt pully so I can use any spurgear I want.
Matt

[cartmen34]

yeehaw, I think teamtrinity has a matt francis red spur gear adaptor. I'm pretty sure it has the pulley on the adaptor.

[TSR6]

Yes, It is Trinity who makes the spur gear adaptor, although I have heard of problems with it being un-true. The machining has been a bit off with the ones the guys i race with had used.

They accually sent them back if i remember right. :(

-Troy

[Saboteur]

Anyone own the RTR? It seems like a great car. 2nd on my list for the trade in deal I'm settling 2morrow. :)

[xxxsdriver]

no e-bay refferences allowed. Sorry.

Also, keep for sale items in the B/S/T forum. - TSR6

[JR in NC]

since I installed the yellow belt it has twisted off of the rear diff twice in the last three weeks. I don't run the belt loose, the diff is tight. Does anyone have any idea what's going on, or had this problem before. I sure could use some help quick before this weekend(big race). Thanks



JR

[yeeehaw]

take your belt out, and look and see if there is any particles onit or your diff, the diff's side walls could be worn down and it is jumping
Matt

[bmelton]

JR in NC- Bring the car to me or Chris Pace this weekend at Durham. I'll get it straightened out for you, but I won't be there until Sunday (only running the 2 Q's). Chris will be there Saturday, just tell him I told you to bring it to him. I have the orange Lexus body with white flames, incase you are wondering who this is. I have had no probs whatsoever with belt and will look at it for you.

P.S- Are you the same person who bought the foam tires from me a while back and I gave you my starting set up for xxx-s? I'm from Charlotte. If so, get with me and I'll give you the set-up I'm running now. It's working pretty good, even in Mod, so I know you would like it in stock.

[talon51]

I'm looking for a front one way for my XXX-S, and I seem to be having trouble finding one. I'm looking for the entire one way setup, I need the bearings, outdrives and pulley. If you know who makes a good one, and where to find it, let me know.

BTW, any of you guys race at Performace Hobbies Raceway in Ontario, NY?

Thanks,
Talon

[JR in NC]

Thanks alot for the help. No I'm not the guy with the tires. My son races most of the time. He is the one with the red white and blue Alpha that had so much trouble this past weekend.

I'm the old geeser with the cane that's still racing in the novice class. I've been building cars for my son to race and finally decided it was my turn. Pulled the rear diff and checked it for trash and other debris, did not find anything checked the belt and found no kinks. Still not sure what the problem was.

for a one way try www.kthobbies.com or www.stormerhobbies.com they usually have Losi parts on hand.



JR in NC

[superspeed]

rumor is that Losi stop selling the xxx-s kit, since they brought the RTR and graphite plus version to the market. the two have same retail price, regular xxx-s is not much cheaper than graphite plus.

[Lapster]

Yea right, the standard xxx-s was 150 when I got mine. The G+ is 270.

[LouisB]

Before the G+ came out the standard kit was about $210, so the difference is only $40-50. The standard kits are cheap now because they are old stock and have been replaced by the G+, Losi has done this with the XXX, XXX-T and XXX-NT so it's nothing new. It makes sense because if Losi continued to sell the standard kit at $210 and the G+ at $250-260 then nobody would buy the standard kit. The G+ is a great deal considering the cost of upgrading a standard kit to the same spec.

[TSR6]

Originally posted by LouisB
The G+ is a great deal considering the cost of upgrading a standard kit to the same spec.

Agreed. When it comes down to it, it's cheaper to just get the GP+ than to buy everything to upgrade to GP+ spec.

...and you get all new parts to boot! Older parts always start to get slop in them. ;)

[talon51]

I paid 190 (I think) for mine about a year ago...yes thats new in the box! My LHS is amazing when it comes to prices. Now my car is half graphite plus, I've got the lightened graphite chassis, threaded shocks and I'm gonna be upgrading my shock towers here pretty soon. Not sure if I'm gonna get Losi Graphite, woven graphite, or machine my own out of Alum.

I actually prefer to have composite parts on certain areas of my car because they can take a bigger hit without breaking, and when the $$$ is scarce, they're cheaper to replace if they do break.

Later
Talon

[LouisB]

I got the standard kit quite a while ago and upgraded with the graphite conversion at christmas. The only advantage to doing that was having a load of spare parts, but how many steering tunnel covers are you going to break?;) There are only a few parts that actually break so having a load of useless spares isn't much good.

At the moment I've got the graphite conversion, threaded short shocks in the front and normal threaded shocks in the rear, both with Kinwald blue collars and a yellow belt on the way.

[TSR6]

)Originally posted by LouisB
I got the standard kit quite a while ago and upgraded with the graphite conversion at christmas. The only advantage to doing that was having a load of spare parts, but how many steering tunnel covers are you going to break?;) There are only a few parts that actually break so having a load of useless spares isn't much good.

At the moment I've got the graphite conversion, threaded short shocks in the front and normal threaded shocks in the rear, both with Kinwald blue collars and a yellow belt on the way.

I have four belt tunnel covers. :D

1 x Composite ( From original Stiffezel kit )
2 x Graphite ( 1 from Conversion kit, one from X-SGP+ )
1 x Aluminum ( Currently mounted on my X-SGP+ :D )

[LouisB]

I haven't seen any aluminum (or as us crazy brits spell it "aluminium") tunnel covers. Is it for extra weight? Like the steel bottom cover.

The minimum weight limit at my club is 1500g w/o transponder, but nobody checks, or even brings scales to the races. Do you know what a typical graphite losi weighs?

[smoothxxxs]

Lets see some pictures of our XXX-S. As soon as I get access to a scanner I will throw some on here. I want to see what sort of cars are out there and what equipment you guys are running.

[LouisB]

OK:)

[LouisB]

And the slightly battered body

http://www.radiocontrolzone.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=962792

[Dj Kumara]

Hhh-hmm. No offence LouisB but I think most Commonwealth countries call it aluminium which includes me and there's nothing wrong with that spelling :p :D
On a different topic is it normal for there to be specs of dust/other stuff in the tunnel. I find that it's quite obvious on the clear spur gear cover but have found no signs yet of belt damage.

[LouisB]

Originally posted by Dj Kumara
Hhh-hmm. No offence LouisB but I think most Commonwealth countries call it aluminium which includes me and there's nothing wrong with that spelling :p :D
On a different topic is it normal for there to be specs of dust/other stuff in the tunnel. I find that it's quite obvious on the clear spur gear cover but have found no signs yet of belt damage.

OK then:D aluminium it is.

Dirt gets in, even though though the belt is sealed off. Check for any gaps in the lexan cover and try and get it to fit as closely as possible. It 's normal and doesn't damage anything, so no worries:cool:

[TSR6]

There will be a little bit of fuzz in there, but not to the extent of other cars. It's not 100% sealed, so its usually a little bit of carpet fuzz that gets in there, but that stuff gets everywhere. ;) :p

The aluminum belt cover is accually lighter than the graphite cover. It looks freaking sweet, and is lighter, but it is accually removing weight from the wrong place on the car ( lowest, most central point ) but i didn't notice any handling difference, its only about .02oz lighter than the graphite part anyways. ;)

-Troy

[LouisB]

Thanks TSR6, I see quite a few pros that put lead on the cover so I thought it would be heavier.

I just installed the yellow belt and I was wondering how loose i should set the tension. I run mod and with the blue belt I normally run as tight as it will go, backed off about 1-2mm.

[TSR6]

Originally posted by LouisB
Thanks TSR6, I see quite a few pros that put lead on the cover so I thought it would be heavier.

I just installed the yellow belt and I was wondering how loose i should set the tension. I run mod and with the blue belt I normally run as tight as it will go, backed off about 1-2mm.

Some of them are using steel plates ( also made locally ) to increase wieght..

Mine is AL.

[smoothxxxs]

Any more pics? That was a really nice one right there. love the neat layout.

[JR in NC]

I've been looking for some aggressive setups for high grip asphault layouts. I've looked through the Team Losi sight and the competitionx site still nothing. I'd like to see some setups from last years Reedy Race or something.
I know that if you look at the other team sights they much more complete setup sheets than anything that Losi is showing.
Anyone know of any other websites or aggressive setupsfor the XXX-S. Thanks for the help.




JR in NC

[TSR6]

Jr - I have a starting point that I used last summer a little bit, it's not a GP+ setup though.

I also have what I plan on starting with this summer too, but I haven't run it on asphault yet..

I was hoping someone else would be able to give you something, but since they aren't, I figured i'd at least offer.

-T

[JR in NC]

I've tried something new this weekend with decent results. It looks alot like Barry Bakers 2002 Reedy Race setup (yes I know that's a TC3) but a 1/10th scale chassis is still a 1/10th scale chassis. stiffer springs, standing the shocks more upright, and more castor than I've used before. With rubber tires this setup keeps the weight on the tires and traction down on the ground, oh yes, heavy sway bars front and rear. My biggest problem is getting used to driving this setup, because it changes the way the car attacks the corners.

This was used in both my stock XXX-S's(my son drives one and I drive the other ) one car has a one way in it, the other just a regular diff. One had 4 degrees castor the other 6 degrees. Both ran 90 tooth spurs with 25 pinions on Takeoff CS27 tires.

My XXX-S's I refer to as XXX-SG- their all graphite I just haven't bothered with the rear arms with the multisetups possibilities. How does this compare with your ideas.


As for why nobody else answered their all out running Kinwald's Sou Cal setup and think that is the best it gets. I guess!!!!!!!



JR

[TSR6]

Jr - Without grabbing the car itself, I've been using Paul's XXX-S ( not GP) ''carpet nats'' setup, but I'm using silver springs all around, and using the off-set rear end. I've tweaked it since then, and this is on carpet.. but last summer, I used the same setup for asphault and carpet, only occasionally swapping ball cup locals on the shock tower..

uhg i need sleep...

[spenzalii]

Anybody try running their XXX-S brushless yet? I'll probably get one for mine once I get some other necessary equipment (setup jig, better batteries; my car veers to the right no matter what because I can't set my turnbuckles accurately and my batts have been dead for a while). I want to give that car the blue aluminum treatment with the brushless setup and Jag body just for show, and get the +G kit for racing. Or maybe I'll just get the Kawada Sigma for a tricked, one belt ride

[TSR6]

Originally posted by spenzalii
Anybody try running their XXX-S brushless yet? I'll probably get one for mine once I get some other necessary equipment (setup jig, better batteries; my car veers to the right no matter what because I can't set my turnbuckles accurately and my batts have been dead for a while). I want to give that car the blue aluminum treatment with the brushless setup and Jag body just for show, and get the +G kit for racing. Or maybe I'll just get the Kawada Sigma for a tricked, one belt ride

The Novak crew was testing the brushless in a X-S around the time of last CHS. I saw the car, everything fit. ;)

[Slow Driver]

My sons and I have recently taken up the sport and are having a blast. All four of us run the XXX-S and have resisted the urge to uprade anything until we can actually drive the car properly as it is.

Problem, I was buying a car off Ebay for a spare and the guy ripped me off. All I have are a bunch of pieces. I can buy what I need off of Losi but the cost is way too high. I was curious if any of you had or knew of someone with a complete XXX-S rolling chassis that they would want to sell at a reasonable price. I have yet another son wanting to try the sport.

Thanks

[JR in NC]

Try looking through the want ads in this posting. I bought a graphite roller for $170 on the want and buy section of this chat area back in January.Good Luck

Beware of Ebay with all of the new buyer and seller regulations, they definitely favor the seller . Ebay even offers benefits to it's larger sellers !!!!! Ebay is not the auction house it was in the beginning.



JR in NC

[tipper]

I am looking for a rolling chassis xxx-s I don't have much money perferably all stock with no electronics. dosen't matter if it has a body or wheels.

[jay272]

Hey JR. How can you be sure that you won't get ripped off in the for sale forum here? Do they rate the sellers like Ebay does?

[JR in NC]

No, they don't ,but have you ever taken the time to read the new agreement that Ebay just envoked. On a whim I showed to my lawyer who said "If you do business with any power sellers on Ebay under $250.00 and they screw you , your screwed because Ebay is in the power sellers corner." Now jay272 that is straight from my lawyers mouth, and before you bad mouth the lawyer he happens to be my best friend.

Oh, before I forget I have been screwed by a so called "power seller" on Ebay. It was a gift for my mother-in-law.

Having been around R/C for awhile 95% of them are honest and true to their word and would not screw anyone on purpose.

That is my opinion,and we all know what opinions are worth!


JR

[Simen123]

Anybody try running their XXX-S brushless yet?

I`ve been running a lehner 4200/warrior 7018 for a while. Just got my Hacker C40-6tT, and that was fast :D (until my esc overheated). Check the electric forum, and brushless tread. Lots of information there.

[jkerr0043]

OK guys, I just got my XXXS G+ yesterday. I'm almost done with it (Finishing building the shocks right now) and I've got one question. How the hell do you adjust the droop?! I can't find it in the instructions. Am I just missing something? Did I mis a step. I'm used to running a TC3 the had droop screws in the arms.

[jkerr0043]

OK I'm a moron. I just got to the droop screws.

[JR in NC]

I believe it says on the front page to read the instruction manual before starting assembly:rolleyes: Doesn't anyone do that any more:confused:

[jkerr0043]

I skimed through it. Who has time to actually sit and read the whold thing while you've got a new car sitting there waiting to be built. :D

[JR in NC]

I have several times on car instructions, speed controls, servos and radios and have saved time and embarrasment later.

Of coursre with two children and Christmas, have you ever tried to put a bike or a dollhouse together without instructions:eek:
When they the instructions show up in Chinese without illustrations.


JR

[speedy gonnalo]

Haha!:p I got the rtr xxx-s.:D Here's a tip. Don't drive it outside.:mad: The bottom of the chassis will get huge scrapes in it:mad: . I run in hammond,louisiana every wed.:cool:

[yeeehaw]

here is an even better tip. Don't drive where rocks and pot holes are. you need to drive on a smoothe surface like a freshly paved parking lot if you want to drive any where else other than an indoor race track.
you can also go get a lexan sheet for around 10.00 and cut it to the size and shape of your chassis and make flaps so you can heat them up and bend them and make holes so you can drill holes in the side walls of your chassis.
or you can use strapping tape and cover the bottom of the chassis.

Matt

[TSR6]

If you can rollerblade on it, you can usually drive a touring car on it. ;)

[speedy gonnalo]

Nice suggestion,Matt, but I,m just a kid at 11 yrs old!:)
I enjoy running It anywhere possible;) I have two stadium trucks and I am a maniac when it comes to r/c cars:o .

[speedy gonnalo]

Matt,do you live in louisiana?go to red stick raceway (http://www.redstickraceway.com)screw this stuff

[speedy gonnalo]

Matt,do you live in louisiana?go to red stick raceway (http://www.redstickraceway.com) :)

[speedy gonnalo]

Who knows how to adjust the ride height of the xxx-s? jkerr0043,you aren't the only one who's a moron:)

[LouisB]

Shock collars, not droop screws

[yeeehaw]

Speedy I am 14 years old,
I think you can set the ride height using the shocks mounting holes. when i run on a large sweeping track I get it as low to the ground as I can and use hard springs.
it is all on what you want run. If you start racing go buy you alot of tires and wheels of different compounds

Matt

[jkerr0043]

Did anyone elses shock collars feel extremely tight when building their XXXS? Mine are so tight I have to use an end wrench to turn them. I thought they may have cross threaded but I checked that and they weren't. Also, what's the best online store for Losi parts? I used to order alot of Associated stuff from Tower but they don't sell anything Losi. Thanks.

[speedy gonnalo]

Originally posted by ASTROCREEP RACING
I am currently developing aluminum hop ups for the xxxs....I have in the works so far batt hold downs with xxxs engraved,shock towers, arm pin braces , wheel hexes and a motor mount with an intergrated heat sink.What else would you guys like to have for your xxxs? arms????

let em know

Dave

It's me,speedy gonnalo.can you ship out some stuff to me?

[jkerr0043]

Aluminum Shock Collars

[LouisB]

Yep, the trinity ones work great. Francis' versions are red and Kinwald's are blue, you pick which you like best.

I get my Losi stuff from Stormer Hobbies (http://www.stormerhobbies.com)

[TSR6]

Originally posted by jkerr0043
Did anyone elses shock collars feel extremely tight when building their XXXS? Mine are so tight I have to use an end wrench to turn them. I thought they may have cross threaded but I checked that and they weren't. Also, what's the best online store for Losi parts? I used to order alot of Associated stuff from Tower but they don't sell anything Losi. Thanks.

They will loosen up.

The plastic collars are one of two polar opposites, either way to tight, or way to loose.

The AL shock collars are the best way to go, and If i remember right, they are around $9. They have an O-ring inside them to hold the shock's settings.

-Troy

[jkerr0043]

I think that's going to be the first thing I replace. That and I need to get a full set of springs. I still haven't had a chance to run the car. There was a problem with my order for my GT7 and My servo. It's just sitting there, gutless. Waiting. :(

[speedy gonnalo]

Does anyone know how to tune out the reverse on the rtr's jr racing controller:confused: ?my raceplace does not allow reverse to be used during a race.:(

[speedy gonnalo]

Originally posted by jkerr0043
Aluminum Shock Collars

Do you want me to give you the adress of my residency to send em?

[FlyingFINN]

I got a question for everybody.
I got my new xxxs GP built and the right rear suspension is binding on me. I think I've tried everything and it won't unbind! It looks the cvd is all the way in the diff half. It will move when I don't have the hinge pin in on the hu and arm, but the minute I put it in it binds up.
Any help would be appreciated1
Thanks!

[jkerr0043]

If you read the review on the graphite kit in this months RCCA, it talks about the ball cups being a little tight. I noticed the same thing my self. He says to grab them with pliars and squeeze them while you work them back and forth a little. It did seem to work a little but I think they just need to be broke in. Also, try polishing the hinge pin. I always polish hinge pins by putting them in a drill and using wadding polish. Hit the drill while running the wadding over the pin. Clean it with a clean rag ( I use old T shirts) turn it around and do the other side. Makes things real slick. Also make sure the pins is straight and that there isn't any flashing or extra material in the hole for the pin. All of these can cause binding.

[speedy gonnalo]

Hey,peoples. I guess that just answered my question:rolleyes: .
I'm guessing that nobody got the ready to run for $219:) . I guess I will just have to be reallllllly careful. Does anyone even have the JRRacing XR-2 controller?

[speedy gonnalo]

Thanks for the tips and,uh,I have to tell you now, I run my car inside so my tires don't wear out on pavement.;)

[speedy gonnalo]

I don't know what is with you guys,but it gets really boring just siittiinngg on a website for 1hour waiting for someone to reply to a question you asked about two days ago about racing the xxx-s:mad: .

[JR in NC]

I don't know about the XXX-SG+ RTR specifically, but most RTR radios and receivers have reverse built in to the speed control and about the only way I know to lessen it is to experiment with the throttle control,both the pot settings and the trim settings.The other obvious thing that comes to mind is that since your new at touring car racing a little reverse never hurt anyone as long as you don't over you use it . Of course you never use it in a race , no matter what , wait to be marshalled, but you knew that.

We've always given lots of leeway to beginners at our track. Most of all just have fun :D


JR in NC

[yeeehaw]

Speedy, I had the rtr and I upgraded to a race edition and now am going to a gp. Every where you run you will wear a tire down. Some surfaces more than others. A good habbit to get into is after a heat, rotate your tires for the main.
perferably I don't like indoor tracks. I finally get mine to do 53 mph so bigger tracks are my style. I use foams for racing and occasinally some rubber. every turn you make rubber shaves off, and if you are a newb you will propably go through alot of tires.
depending on your style. if you are still using the stock tires go BUY new ones. I tore mine up right after I installed my gear doing a really screwed up drift.
good luck and ask more q's
Matt

[speedy gonnalo]

What do you have to get to upgrade to the race edition,yeeehaw?

[speedy gonnalo]

Oh yeah.Does anybody know if the Monsters of Touring motor is better than the stock motor?

[spenzalii]

OK Speedy. First, it takes a while to get answers because a lot of us aren't glued to out computers that often. Still others are quite buzy. Patience pai'quan!

Now for some of your questions. I honestly didn't think they has a XXXS+G RTR available, just the XXX-S Sport. Of course, I'm not perfect so it may have been a typo or I'm out of the loop. In any case, if it is the RTR Sport kit, the upgrades to make it Pro or G+ would include the threaded shocks, the front .028 shocks, all graphite parts (including updated offset rear arms/hubs) and front solid spool. Did I miss anything guys?

The XR2 is a very good AM radio. Digital trims, subtrim, 2 model memory. I had one before it got stolen. Hold on to it for a while, you won't be dissapointed.

Your reverse is keyed into the VR3 speed controler. If they came with instructions on it, they may tell you how to lock out reverse. on many speedos from other companies, you can disable reverse by hoding one of the setting buttons before powering the unit on. Remember, reading is fundamental! (laugh now, and figure it out later)

Your tires are going to wear out no matter where you run them. BTW, tell me you're not still running the tires that came with the car, are you? Quick tire run down. Slicks:Team Sorex or Take Off. Treaded (if you must): Pro-Line V-Rage, Medial Pro or Venom Magnetics. Foams: TRC, Jaco or Speedmind.

And I'm pretty sure the Monster of Touring will be a bit faster than the stocker. You can also try the Chameleon 2

[speedy gonnalo]

Can anybody send me some products to upgrade my TL?I am totally broke!

[spenzalii]

Um, No....:p That seems to be a problem for most of us here. We either get on the grind and get that money, beg out loved ones (parents, wives, loan officers and the like) or just suck it up, pout in a corner and get over it. Kinda hard to score free stuff just because you want it. If that was the case....

[JR in NC]

I hate to break it to you, but nobody just going to send you hop-up parts.:) Maybe it's time to look for some ways to earn some extra $$$$ by maybe mowing some yards or working around the house more, show your parents your really interested and are willing to earn some extra$$$$.That's what my son has done for years.

I don't know of to many r/c people that don't work on a budget,and plan what parts they need next. :) Now all of us have big wish lists :D Remember there is a difference between what you need and what you want.

Just thoughts from a father and an RC addict.



JR

[speedy gonnalo]

My dad has this problemo.Let me explain it.

1. He has ADD.
2.He just doesn't admit that I do my chores or deserve the money.

[speedy gonnalo]

You couldn't even send me one of these cheap little things in our lives?

1. Battery strap(aluminum)
2. NEW tires/rims
3. Cool decals/flames:)

[speedy gonnalo]

hey,JR:p .But,what if they do?:p

[JR in NC]

Oh to be in the dream world of an 11 year old. Well if you con someone into giving you something without working for it ,how will you feel about it :(




JR

[spenzalii]

Personally, I wouldn't feel that bad;) Just kidding, things like that have a way of biting you in the behind

[JR in NC]

Amen brother,been there done that. It's a tough lesson, but my 14 year old figured it out. Now he queaks when he walks he's so tight:D . My 7 year old is learning that nothing is free,it's a mean lesson but learn now cause it's worse later.

Gotta brag on my son though, kid works for his Mom every chance he gets, mows 3 neighbors yards and runs a pet sitting service in the summer and holidays. Yesterday he hands me $100 and says "Thanks Dad for helping with the car (XXX-S) buy the upgrades you think we need for the Region 3 race for your car and mine." I only took half of it because he was willing to leave himself broke so we could race a little better,but we sat down last night and placed an order for more than he gave me, but the respect was there in his eyes,if you know what I mean.

Racing means enough to him to work his backside off for what he wants,not just whine away for it until I get tired of listening to him and buy it to shut him up.:D

I couldn't be a prouder father. Oh Yea, there were tears in my eyes when he wasn't looking.




John and Bryan


JR in NC

[spenzalii]

Now THATS what I'm talking about. When your kids show that kind of effort for both of you, you just can't say no. That says volumes about what he thinks of the hobby and what values you instilled in him. Bravo JR, and here's to a good race season to you both

[yeeehaw]

hey Kemosabi (speedy)
My dad and i plan to do an allumenium chassis for this car just for kickers. We also plan on doing my custom MT: project El presidente. If you are a normal 11 year old (I hope you are)
Mow yards!!!! or wash cars or something I personally do land scaping and yard work and I also have a part time job. My buying parts have been put on hold since I met Stephany, my SWEETY. She is also into RC but doesn't know how to fix her car, So I end up doing it for her, and she does my bodies. I also make my own parts, except A-arms and drive train items, it is just so much cooler.
But, like JR said you get better satisfaction and take care of something better if you ern(sp) it. If I was whiney and got something it would just piss my family off, sorry for the words but it is the truth. But I don't have any parts just sitting around that are just sitting there. If I crash bad enough I will need those extra parts.
good luck and happy season
Matt

[AznJunkie]

Hello guy I just pick up a XXX-S RTR minus the radio from the B/S/T forum here.

I’m sure this question has been ask before, is there a difference between the RTR XXX-S and the regular XXX-S? I know the RTR has electric gears while the regular is only a kit. I want to know if there’s any difference in the chassis and other parts. Thanks in advance! :)

[yeeehaw]

the regular xxx-s has composite parts and is a little lighter than the rtr. The rtr does not have as many set up options as the regular and gp.
Matt

[speedy gonnalo]

Hey, guess what. My dad has made appointments all through today and he promised that he would take me to my racetrack.

[JR in NC]

All dads have things to do. And for the most part we want to spend them with our kids, sometimes though you have priorities, kinda like you have to do your homework before you can mess with the car.

By the way, all dads have attention deficit disorder to some extent, even with their wives:D (ask your mom). Hey don't forget mothers day.




JR

[AznJunkie]

Thanks yeeehaw.

[speedy gonnalo]

How do you get the rtr's controller battery charger?

[speedy gonnalo]

Originally posted by spenzalii
OK Speedy. First, it takes a while to get answers because a lot of us aren't glued to out computers that often. Still others are quite buzy. Patience pai'quan!

Now for some of your questions. I honestly didn't think they has a XXXS+G RTR available, just the XXX-S Sport. Of course, I'm not perfect so it may have been a typo or I'm out of the loop. In any case, if it is the RTR Sport kit, the upgrades to make it Pro or G+ would include the threaded shocks, the front .028 shocks, all graphite parts (including updated offset rear arms/hubs) and front solid spool. Did I miss anything guys?

The XR2 is a very good AM radio. Digital trims, subtrim, 2 model memory. I had one before it got stolen. Hold on to it for a while, you won't be dissapointed.

Your reverse is keyed into the VR3 speed controler. If they came with instructions on it, they may tell you how to lock out reverse. on many speedos from other companies, you can disable reverse by hoding one of the setting buttons before powering the unit on. Remember, reading is fundamental! (laugh now, and figure it out later)

Your tires are going to wear out no matter where you run them. BTW, tell me you're not still running the tires that came with the car, are you? Quick tire run down. Slicks:Team Sorex or Take Off. Treaded (if you must): Pro-Line V-Rage, Medial Pro or Venom Magnetics. Foams: TRC, Jaco or Speedmind.

And I'm pretty sure the Monster of Touring will be a bit faster than the stocker. You can also try the Chameleon 2

A bit faster? How about 3 times faster?

[yeeehaw]

I went from a 27 turn stock to a 13 double and now to a D5 flat liner 9turn. with really really tall gearing on the pinion. When I was doing a speed run using the 9 turn with the tall gearing I got 53 mph. I want a brushless but I don't have the 230.00 dollars to buy one.
Though I think the brushless is worth the money (65mph) on a electric tourer. But if I had the chance I would die (not really) for that $5000 101 mph super nitro rs4.

I love speed but I want something that will bust 150.0 and up radio controlled. it is not really possible unless you like planes.

good luck and happy racing.
Matt

[MDawson]

Originally posted by jkerr0043
OK I'm a moron. I just got to the droop screws.

Take a look at this, it will help you with the droop and ride ht. settings: http://www.teamlosi.com/xxxs_page/xxxs_droop.htm

[jkerr0043]

I've got the car all setup now. I can't belive how much better balanced the car is than a TC3. I put it on my Tweek station and with very minimal adjustments it was dead on. It was finally dry enough today to set trims in front of the house. I can't believe how smooth this car is. It's so quiet. It seems to have good transitioning and nice acceleration. I'm taking it up to So Cal tomorrow for some testing to see if I want to run it in the Reedy Race. I only hesitate because I'm not used to it and I don't have much of a spare parts stock yet. But I guess if I get in a bind, I can pull out the TC3. I've been missing out on this smooth of a car for a long time.

[jkerr0043]

By the way. Any thoughts on how well the stock setup is on a preped surface? I got Kinwalds setup sheet for So Cal but I don't have a oneway yet and I don't have the springs he was running in the front. My parts order won't be in for a few more days. How about parking lots? (Where I usually race)

[MDawson]

Originally posted by jkerr0043
By the way. Any thoughts on how well the stock setup is on a preped surface? I got Kinwalds setup sheet for So Cal but I don't have a oneway yet and I don't have the springs he was running in the front. My parts order won't be in for a few more days. How about parking lots? (Where I usually race)

For standard parking lots use Ron Rossettis setup from the Losi site. It is a good platform to work from.

[jkerr0043]

I didn't even look at the regular XXXS setup sheets, only the G+ sheets. Thanks.

[LouisB]

Parking lots vary, so some may have more grip than others. I find that on 4 of the 5 parking lot tracks I race on a good starting point is blue/blue with 60wt oil. For me, any softer than red/red makes the car roll far too much.

[speedy gonnalo]

Can you guys make a list for me of what I can get that will make my xxx-s faster?

[speedy gonnalo]

I lost track track of time on wednesday night which is the night of the races and I forgot to tell you how I did. I beat the sos out of those peoples

[JR in NC]

Practice,Practice,Practice.....:D aluminum CVD's, tittanium turnbuckles,Better batteries. Still practice is the one thing that always makes you better. Oh yes the desire to change setups and try new ones , in other words experiment with your cars setups.

Be a good winner and a gracious loser, use good sportsmanship at all times :) . These are the things that make you better.




JR

[smartazz07]

Hey, I raced my xxx-s for the first time a couple of weeks ago, and I got whooped. I am a much better driver than all of the but I only had one battery pack and a reedy Quasar(not pro). My batteries were ruined because they didnt have time to cool down inbetween heats. My LHS guy told me to use 2400's instead. Should I just buy some 2400 packs or save my $$$ and buy a new charger and more 3000's. I was thinking about the millenium pro because I'm getting a new novak tc2 for $60 to replace my extremely large dually. Which is gonna set me back even more cuz I'm only 13 and I've only got $30 right now.

[JR in NC]

I assume your talking about ni-cads,if so, did you discharge them before you recharged them. Remember that Ni-cads do get memories as far as charging. Another set of batteries might be a better use of your money moreso than a new esc besides a dually is a pretty decent esc though it is a little large.(I've got one ):D .

Ni-cads are cheap right now because everyone want the ni-mh(3300's)these can cost you $70 a matched set. But I won the first two qualifiers today using 2400's ni-cads because in the heat they perform a little better.

Try having your motor tuned (the comm trued and maybe new brushes, that can help also).

Just some thoughts.



JR

[smartazz07]

Thanks, no my old battery pack was a nimh and I did discharge w/ a deans light bulb discharger.

Brandon

[speedy gonnalo]

smartazz07, try buying a monsters of touring 19 turn motor.

[yeeehaw]

It depends on what class you want to race in.
I know of cars that will bust 60 but it takes superb handling skills. if you stay in the novice class. Go with a pack of 3300 cells buy graphite plus parts. get a hi torque hi speed steering servo.
A high end speed controll. get deans connectors or zero loss connectors. lighten and ballance your car superbly.
If you don't want to race it go get a brushless system and change the gearing.

good luck
Matt

[speedy gonnalo]

I got some foam tires from a friend and he put them on my car but I can't find another bolt that will fit and I won't need a ratchet or pliers to get them off. Does anybody have an extra set of bolts that will fit?

[speedy gonnalo]

I guess not.:(

[speedy gonnalo]

Well,I just came across another problem. My battery saddle has been ripped apart.:mad:

[speedy gonnalo]

Is anybody there?

[speedy gonnalo]

Can you send me the shrink wrap?

[spenzalii]

do you mean the nut or the axle? if it's the nut, you can go the cheap way and find some 8/32 nuts at the hardware store. It depends on the offset of the wheels, though. As far as the battery, how did that manage to come apart?

[speedy gonnalo]

I was running my car on the road and it slid onto a pothole and the battery flew out of the side and I didn't know so I just kept on driving it and when I noticed it was out,I stopped my car and that is when I noticed it was torn up.

[smartazz07]

I plan on staying in the novice class but what good quality AC/DC charger can I get for under$150?

[speedy gonnalo]

Guess who's back, back again:p Speedy's back, back again. Heat my tires,heat my tires,heat my tires,heat my tires.:D Tune my ****,tune my ****,tune my ****.

[speedy gonnalo]

Originally posted by spenzalii
do you mean the nut or the axle? if it's the nut, you can go the cheap way and find some 8/32 nuts at the hardware store. It depends on the offset of the wheels, though. As far as the battery, how did that manage to come apart? I meant the nut. Can't you just send me some 8/32 nuts?

[speedy gonnalo]

I got that crap from Eminem:D .

[speedy gonnalo]

Pardon my french:p :D :) :rolleyes: :cool: :o ;) :p

[speedy gonnalo]

YEEHAW!

[TSR6]

Originally posted by speedy gonnalo
Guess who's back, back again:p Speedy's back, back again. Heat my tires,heat my tires,heat my tires,heat my tires.:D Tune my ****,tune my ****,tune my ****.

I like my song better...

"Gues who's watchin ov'a you. TSR6's back, back again. Watchin you, watchin you, Lost account for you....

Just watch the language, alright? ...and how about getting a job instead of begging parts off of people?

-T

[jkerr0043]

Speedy,
I really don't think any of us are going to be sending you parts. Everyone on these boards has to work hard for the money we spend on our equipment. I've never seen anyone have the gaul to just ask people to send them parts like it's nothing. Why do you think anyone would do that?

[Dj Kumara]

Anyone know of a good place to mount a transponder on the GP? Either I'm blind or there isn't a place made to mount one.

[JR in NC]

TSR6,

Glad your back, was hoping someone would bring a halt to the last two pages. Tried to reason with him but just not possible.

Does anyone else make a oneway other than Losi, don't get me wrong there o.k. just looking for one that doesn't fall apart like a jack-in-the-box when the dogbone comes out.

Dj I've always mounted mine on the front tower with tiewraps. I've seen others mount theirs on top of their servo.

Just a thought.



JR

[jkerr0043]

Is it a personal AMB or one of the big chunky ones? I mount my personal on top of the servo too.

[JR in NC]

If it is one of those big chunky ones, try mounting it on the ceterline of the body as far forward as possible. I think the last one we raced with made it maybe an inch forward of the windshield on a Stratus body, use a reamer or a dremel and make it so the hole is tight around the end of the stem of the transponder. This is so it does not wiggle loose during a race,from experience it can happen and does.:(


Just a thought.


JR

[TSR6]

Originally posted by JR in NC
TSR6,

Glad your back, was hoping someone would bring a halt to the last two pages. Tried to reason with him but just not possible.

JR

been busy buildin a mugen, sorry. ;)

Ill be back later... Bell!

[TSR6]

One-Way - Dragon RC (?) makes an aluminum one. I can't remember where you can get it, but I know a couple guys on RCTech run them.

Transponder - I had a transponder mount glued on top of the servo, to hang the transponder behind the servo, next to the RX, when using the track transponders.

When using a personal, I servo tape it to the top of the servo.

btw - Asking for free stuff again may be bad for your account status.

-Troy

[speedy gonnalo]

OK,OK!!! You can stop being mean now. How do you put the one ways on a belt drive car?

[TSR6]

Originally posted by speedy gonnalo
OK,OK!!! You can stop being mean now. How do you put the one ways on a belt drive car?

Mean?

I won't be "mean," if you aren't ''stupid.''

You need to buy a sepperate one-way diff for the front.

[fast-rc]

while your on the subject of one-way;), I was wondering if I should get one. What are the advantages/disadvantages of having a one-way. I race stock oval, might start to race road course. I just want that little extra something to help me win.

Also, does any have the lrp worlds kit for the quantum comp.? Does it make a big difference in performance. I just got a quantum comp. and was thinking about buying the wolrds kit, but don't know if its worth it. Any suggestion?

THX

[TSR6]

The one-way can be faster if you can drive it. Cars setup with one-ways generally have very little brakes, as if you brake, you spin. Only the rear wheels supply the breaking action, and will put the car into a spin if you jump on the brakes too hard.

The worlds kit can help the ESC run cooler, and have more punch with the capacitors.

[speedy gonnalo]

Hey:D .I wanna ask you guys if you think schumacher is a good r/c company.

[spenzalii]

So instead of a one way, why not run a solid spool like the XXX-SG+? It has the corner speed with braking power

[speedy gonnalo]

How much does it cost? Guess what. My dad was in Kenner,LA and this guy with a Suburban backed into the passenger doors of his car.:mad:

[yeeehaw]

They are good although I would not go for them. parts availability is pretty much scarce in the states. Dude if you guys watch the weather, every dar when I come home from football practice there is always a tornado watch or warning and we practice in it but not the warnings. Cool aint it.

My mom made me a deal.
here it is.
If I break 700ibs on the leg press or 315 on squat she would buy me a micro rs4. Well I am at 720 on the leg press and 350 on squat. And of course I had to keep my grades up. This incentive thing works. I love it. Well I guess there is an upside to school.

see ya
Yeeehaw

[speedy gonnalo]

Can anybody send me a rear hub for the left side like really quick?
I put the wrong nut on and now I can't get it off! Please healp me! My dad is gonna kill me if he finds out:mad:

[jkerr0043]

Give it up kid! No one's going to send you parts.

[speedy gonnalo]

OK then. Just let him slaughter me:mad:

[smartazz07]

Dude, you're not gettin any sympathy from me! I'm 13 and I just got a bunch of money for feeding my nieghbors dogs while he was in the middle east(He works at Livermore labs in California and tests bombs). And I think you could do something of that sort. I have to buy everithing for my xxx-s. So stop whining.

Brandon

[jkerr0043]

well said

[TSR6]

Originally posted by speedy gonnalo
OK then. Just let him slaughter me:mad:

Ask for free parts again, and you will be banned. Everyone in this threads is sick of your feeble attempts at free-loading. Nuff said, Last warning.

Also, If you have the GP+, the parts for the spool came with the car. If you do not have the GP+, its a cheap pad to lock the front diff. I do not have the part #'s though. :(

-Troy

[NSX-XXS]

Hi,

I am looking for a little help, i am going to be racing my xxx-s in an outdoor 19t motor limit championship, and i want as much speed as i can get, i currently have 86 and an 88 tooth 48 pitch spur gears.

What is the biggest pinion i can fit to this? :D or would i be best to change the spur or what?

Any help or advice would be greatly recieved, does anyone have a chart of how best to gear an XXX-S?

David

[speedy gonnalo]

I am really sick of you,TSR6. My dad hasn't grounded me yet, but when he does, it'll probably be for the rest of my life and you'll be able to hear me scream nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! . I wasn't asking for free parts, I was going to pay the person who sent the part by mail. I have found a better website to chat on so if you don't stop the fighting I am going to quit chatting here and chat on another website:p .

[speedy gonnalo]

Originally posted by JR in NC
TSR6,

Glad your back, was hoping someone would bring a halt to the last two pages. Tried to reason with him but just not possible.

Does anyone else make a oneway other than Losi, don't get me wrong there o.k. just looking for one that doesn't fall apart like a jack-in-the-box when the dogbone comes out.

Dj I've always mounted mine on the front tower with tiewraps. I've seen others mount theirs on top of their servo.

Just a thought.



JR

Yes,other companies make one-ways. Tower Hobbies (http://www.towerhobbies.com) When you get to the website, look in the right hand corner and look for advanced search.

[speedy gonnalo]

Look, you got me and I really think you don't reason with me
:) . Look, we're still friends.

[JR in NC]

Thank for the info on the oneways. Things are cool between us just been trying to get two cars ready for a big race this weekend(Region 3 race). That takes alot of time and concentration.



Just keep thinking.




JR

[speedy gonnalo]

I am sorry for treating u like that. Tamiya makes one ways
:)

[spenzalii]

NSX,
There is a gearing chart floating around here somewhere; if I can't find it, I'll bet TRS6 will. Try between an 22 to 24 tooth and go from there.

[TSR6]

Originally posted by NSX-XXS
Hi,

I am looking for a little help, i am going to be racing my xxx-s in an outdoor 19t motor limit championship, and i want as much speed as i can get, i currently have 86 and an 88 tooth 48 pitch spur gears.

What is the biggest pinion i can fit to this? :D or would i be best to change the spur or what?

Any help or advice would be greatly recieved, does anyone have a chart of how best to gear an XXX-S?

David

It would be best to gear it for the track you are racing on. Go run the car in practice, and see what gearing you need to change. If it tops out before you get 1/2 way down the backstretch, gear it up a bit. If you aren't toping out by the end of the backstretch, gear down a bit. You can also ask the guys you are racing with what they are running for a final drive ratio. ( spur divided by the pinion multiplied by 1.83 when running the Std diff pullies. )

JR - I've been looking around, but I cannot find the website. The company is called "Dragon R/C" and they had an aluminum one-way for the XXX-S. It's the only oneway for the xxx-s that I know of other than the Losi one. I beleive they were based out of Japan, but you could get them here in the US.

Tower Hobbies would not be the logical place to look for a Losi one-way. Tower does not carry losi, and probably does not have aftermarket parts for it either.

Yes, Tamiya makes one-ways, but not for the XXX-S.

..oh, and Speedy, Thanks for the e-mail. :p You do realize that I am a moderator, correct?

I have a gear chart at home, but the best one I've found is actually on RCRacing.com, they have a gear chart there. I find it easier just to use a calculator than a chart though. :) Click "gear Ratio's on thier menu, and type in your spur / pinion. Don't worry about the tire Dia. stuff unless you want to do rollout.

[spenzalii]

See, told you he'd find it...

[speedy gonnalo]

I went to the Team Losi website and asked if they would send me a replacement rear set of hubs becuz the ones i had on my car broke and i havent gotten a reply yet.

[TSR6]

Originally posted by speedy gonnalo
I went to the Team Losi website and asked if they would send me a replacement rear set of hubs becuz the ones i had on my car broke and i havent gotten a reply yet.

I almost garrentee that they will not send you replacement parts, free or not. Losi does not deal directly with the public. They won't just replace them, because there is not a warrentee on any of the parts, nor should there be. You break stuff, then try not to hit things.

You can order parts online you know, kthobbies.com has always been good to me.

[jkerr0043]

Do you know of any online shops that carry Losi and ship from anywhere near Southern California? I've been ordering from Stormer and they've been fine so far, but it takes almost a week for material to get here. A lot of times I can't wait that long. Most of the local shops here are more than 30miles from the house or don't cary Losi.

[JR in NC]

Stormer is still your best bet you can try www.kthobbies.com. Kraig ships some of the smaller,lighter stuff by priority mail which is a 2-3 day ship to me in NC. I think it's like $4.30 for the first pound. Biggest problem with kt is they don't carry all the Losi parts. You can always try dealing with Horizon Hobby:D . Speedtech RC.com carries some Losi parts and they are in So. Cal.. For my money though Stormer is still the best and just pay the 2-3 day fees.



Just my thoughts.



JR in NC

[TSR6]

Originally posted by JR in NC
Stormer is still your best bet you can try www.kthobbies.com. Kraig ships some of the smaller,lighter stuff by priority mail which is a 2-3 day ship to me in NC. I think it's like $4.30 for the first pound. Biggest problem with kt is they don't carry all the Losi parts. You can always try dealing with Horizon Hobby:D . Speedtech RC.com carries some Losi parts and they are in So. Cal.. For my money though Stormer is still the best and just pay the 2-3 day fees.



Just my thoughts.



JR in NC

I know Kraig personally, very nice guy, and have dealt with him quite a bit over the past summer. He supported our outdoor tracks on-site. If he doesn't have it on the website, just drop him an e-mail, or call him, and he may be able to order it for you, just a FYI.

-Troy

[RacingStorm]

I just got a front and rear sway bar set for my XXX-S. Anyone know what the four different sizes are?

[TSR6]

Originally posted by RacingStorm
I just got a front and rear sway bar set for my XXX-S. Anyone know what the four different sizes are?

Largest, Second Largest, Smallest, Second from smallest. :p ..hehe..

I can check 'em out with a caliper if you wish when I get a chance later tonight. ;)

[TSR6]

won't be tonight, mis-placed my calipers somewhere!

-T

[AznJunkie]

Oops wrong post

[JR in NC]

Anyone ever broken a drive belt in a XXX-S. I shredded one yesterday, there has got to be a better way to replace one than pulling both diffs:( what a mess during the Regions.

I've got a question for someone who knows a whole lot more than I do. Is it possible, that racing outdoors in cooler weather then with a warm-up then a cool down could the graphite parts become brittle, could the belt disintegrate, over time. I've questioned aluminum parts, for a long time due to stress, and added weight, but in three days I have broken a front A-arm a rear A-arm and a drive belt. All have been graphite parts none have been subjected to severe crashes or treatment, yet all the arms have let go at the same place, where they attach to the hinge pins.

After a year + of owning a XXX-S and continually updating to graphite parts. I am beginning to question the durability of the car.

Seriously I ask these questions, I've spent alot of money lately on parts that are expensive and continue to break.




JR in NC

[LouisB]

Unfortunately the nature of a single belt car makes it a pain to change belts. I have never had a belt break, or ever seen one break. Is it rubbing on anything?

All plastics get brittle in cold weather, it may help if you warmed the suspension arms etc with a hair-dryer. Graphite is more brittle than standard plastic and can become excessively brittle in low temps so maybe you could try composite arms and see if they hold up better.

[JR in NC]

Going back to the stiffezel is a thought, but the added weight and even then I still question the durability issue. I do know that if you start to question Losi, they shut down awfully quick and avoid answering e-mails. Then you begin to put two and two together and I watch other people who own XXX-S or XXX-SG+'s and they are in the same dilemna.

Don't gey the idea that I don't see other makes of cars with there problems, there's one on the market that you can't keep A-arms under, but the manufacturers seem to be paying more attention to their customers in addressing these situations.

Maybe carbon fiber is the way to go :confused: !!.



Just a thought




JR

[talon51]

I have the XXX-S kit (not graphite +) and the only graphite I have on there now is the chassis. I've used graphite hub carriers and arms, and I've found the stock stiffezel pieces less likely to break and more forgiving, especially in my first year of TC racing last year, I'd break a lot of stuff, but the stiffezel would last longer, and its cheaper to replace, especially this year when I had nearly no income because of college. I'd rather pay less for the stock parts right now. I've also considered aluminum, maybe its not such a bad thing because cars like the older XRay use alum steering knuckes and rear hub carriers. It could be more economical in the long run, but the thing that worries me is that if the alum holds up in a crash, what will be the next thing to go, or would the alum absorb the hit and stop there? Well, I guess there's only one way to find out, unless anyone can give me proof that alum isn't worth it because it causes too much other stuff to break...

Later,
Talon

[TSR6]

I don't really drive in cold weather, It's always indoor ( probably around 68-72* ) or outdoor, above 60*, so i don't know if the parts get brittle in the cold too much.

I do know that I beleive that the graphite parts are just as strong, and possibly stronger that the stiffezel parts. At the same time though, I have broken broken parts in light brushes, and have both survive mega-hard hits.

The answer? Stop hitting things :p

I do not think the Losi has a durability problem. My XXX-S, had it since it was released, ( upgraded to Graphite Conversion ) I only broke a couple arms, and a couple castor blocks. My XXX-S GP+, which I've had since Jan, I've broken an arm, and two rear hubs.

I am against aluminum arms. They both transfer the impact to other parts, or bend, causing a chassis or suspension tweak that you may not notice untill you finally bend the parts enough to see they are bent, which isnt always the case.

-Troy

-Troy

[JR in NC]

Troy,

I Agree with you about aluminum parts, I'm not convinced of their durability. I guess with no LHS that carries Losi touring parts everything has to be mail ordered, but to see a belt give up, and two A-arms break off at the hinge pins in three days. Since these parts are molded I'm begining to wonder if the master molds are tweaked. I've noticed several of the new chassis's have come out of the box tweaked. I just wish Losi would say something because by not saying anything they put themselves in a more questionable position. I'm just unhappy about the lack of customer service.

Hey it's begining to sound like I'm ranting :D :D . Somebody send me some parts:D :D LOL


It's a ugly Monday!!!!



JR

[LouisB]

I had an ugly Sunday. It was raining constantly all day, but we still raced. Aquaplaning and huge understeer:( I wasn't going too badly until in the 3rd heat my GT7 packed up:mad: I took it out of its case and dried it with a tissue (there was the smallest drop of water in the case) and put it in the warmest and driest place I could find, which was under my hat.

I put in a spare (old with no brakes) speedo and finished 2nd in the A main, behind another Losi. Not too bad. I think i had a good motor for the conditions, a 12x5.

One good thing (the only good thing) about racing in the rain is tyre wear. I've had the same set of Pit Shimizu treaded wets for 2 years and still no signs of wear.

[jkerr0043]

You guys are nuts for racing in the rain. If the ground is slightly wet out here we don't even bother. Too much money to risk it.

[LouisB]

Originally posted by jkerr0043
You guys are nuts for racing in the rain. If the ground is slightly wet out here we don't even bother. Too much money to risk it.

Often it's either race in the rain or not at all.
Oh yeah, when i got home I gave the GT7 a blast with a hair drier, and now it's as right as rain (no pun intended)

And we're not talking damp (mmm.. power slides :) ), we mean bow waves!

[speedy gonnalo]

Does anybody know where to get a different spur gear for $3.00 or less with shipping and handling included? I am getting a 27t motor and I need one.:)

[fast-rc]

$3.00 plus shipping, thats pretty hard;) . I would think your best bet is ebay.

I was thinking about getting some aluminum parts, but don't know if I should spend $100 on parts I really don't need. I have the "old" graphite conversion kit on my losi right now and its working pretty well, besides the numerous scratches on my chassis. Is adding aluminum to the car worth the price it cost to do it? I'm starting to become a kinda "hardcore" racer that doesn't have a job. :p

[talon51]

Sweet, I wished we Americans would race in the rain!!

About the alum, I know that alum arms are definitely a bad thing, I'd never even consider buying them. I was thinking about going with alum hub carriers at all 4 corners, well, maybe just up front, cause I've never broken a rear hub carrier in a racing situation. I think my rear arms are still original, not bad for a car going into its second season of racing, especially after last year with some of the hackers we had.

Well, I best get my mind off RC, got a final exam to study for...

Later
Talon

[TSR6]

$3 for a spur? ...no way bubba... get a job, pay the $7 plus shipping like the rest of us.

[speedy gonnalo]

Well guess what i will:p .

[JR in NC]

I've been working with the MVP for several months getting ready for the Nationals, and think I've finally found the right gear ratio. Now before anybody asked if I told you I might have to kill you:D :D :D !!!!.

My big question is our state race comes up two weeks after the nats.,with no handout motors I'm switching over to "The Monster" I'm looking for a range of final gear ratios, so I can at least find the ballpark. My other question is does anyone know how this motor holds up in high heat and humidity(mid 90's for both). oh yes that's a hint for the Nats.;) .



Just a thought




JR

[speedy gonnalo]

I wwwwwaaaaa!!!!! I wwwwwaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!! I 'm all alone ,a person that does not exist.

[speedy gonnalo]

Also, If you have the GP+, the parts for the spool came with the car. If you do not have the GP+, its a cheap pad to lock the front diff. I do not have the part #'s though. :(

-Troy [/B][/QUOTE]

Do you think tower hobbies would have the parts for the spool?

[LouisB]

Tower doesn't stock Losi, so no.

I wwwwwaaaaa!!!!! I wwwwwaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!! I 'm all alone ,a person that does not exist.

Please stop whining

[speedy gonnalo]

Does anybody know who would carry the losi xxx-s parts?

[AznJunkie]

http://www.stormerhobbies.com/

http://www.horizonhobby.com/


speedy gonnalo - I don't see why you should whine. My $235 Novak SS brushless system just died. I had it in my evader. I wanted to see how it will perform in my XXX-S. So I move it over and now it doesn’t work. I must have plugged the senor wire wrong and killed it. My servo has power, but the motor will not work. Heck the LED doesn’t even glow like it’s supposed to. I sent it back to Noavk. :(

[TSR6]

I already told you this..

but.. TOWER HOBBIES does NOT carry Losi parts. NOTHING AT ALL...

I use kthobbies.com personally..

[speedy gonnalo]

I don't have a credit card....DDuuuuhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[spenzalii]

Well let's see. If you don't have a credit card (understandable considering your age), how, pray tell, were you going to pay for ANYTHING online? I'm guessing checks are also out. WHich means either mailing your order in with a money order, which you may be able to get on your own, or giving your hard earned money to your parents and having them order it for you. HOw far away is your LHS? they can usually order what you need as well.

Remember, speedy, not everybody checks the board as regularly as you. We have other responsibilities to take care of. So, if you don't get an answer within 15 minutes, don't complain. This isn't instant messaging you know. And if your question has been answered recently, try not to ask again. It tends to irritate others here. Nobody is trying to come down hard on you or pick on you either. It's just etiquite, rules of the game baby!

[speedy gonnalo]

My LHS is about 30 miles away from me. Who can you send money and an order form to and get what you ordered?

[MinyMicro]

hey all. I am looking to get a xxx-s graphite plus and I have been looking everywhere for some pics. and info on the car. I have already looked at the Losi website and read the article in the June car Action mag. I am still not satisfied with the info stated and I would like to here some more highs and lows on the car and maybe some pics. if anyone would like to post some. I will most likely be getting this car this summer and will get racing it on carpet and asphalt.

Thanx,


Jay

[JR in NC]

Jay,

I would imagine if you went to any track in your area you would see the GP+ or the original XXX-S in action. Xtreme RC mag had a great article recently about how to setup the XXX-S and GP+. There is a very interesting editorial in R/C car about shaft drive vs. belt drive this month. Go to your LHS (if you have one and check the kit out in person).

If you've been to the Losi website, you might try www.competionx.com for more pic and info.

I've got 2 XXX-S's myself both graphite converted, and am very happy with them. Our largest problem is the "LHS" is 2 hours away so we end up mail ordering parts . Whatever you get make sure you have a ready supply of parts available, because there is nothing worse than breaking a part in practice on Wedensday or Thursday before a race on Sunday and having to pay what the part cost in shipping to get it to you on time for the race. I know (been there done that)


Just a thought.





JR

[Jhstud50]

How fast can the XXX-S RTR go? I might buy this car. Please tell me. Thanks! :)

[JR in NC]

How fast can you drive it?
What kind of batteries do you have in it ?
How is it geared?
What kind of tires are on it?
What kind of motor is in it ?
When was the last time the motor was tuned ?

These are all variables that go into your answer. Sorry it is just not that easy an answer.

If your talking about one right out of the box. The mags say 20-25 mph, but hey that's in sou. Cal. and everything is faster out there.



Just my thought.



JR

[Jhstud50]

Hey Jr, I am planning to use 2400's and 3300's batteries. It is geared in 24/72. The motor is a nineteen turn and there is a Speed Control from GMC. Click this link for more information on the XXX-S RTRhttp://www.teamlosi.com/newprod/2002prods/XXXSRTR.htm What is your prediction of how fast this car can go in full throttle?:confused:

[JR in NC]

Well you wrote

Hey Jr, I am planning to use 2400's and 3300's batteries. It is geared in 24/72. The motor is a nineteen turn and there is a Speed Control from GMC. Click this link for more information on the XXX-S RTRhttp://www.teamlosi.com/newprod/2002prods/XXXSRTR.htm What is your prediction of how fast this car can go in full throttle


I suppose your talking in a straight line in a parking lot. With a final gear ratio of 5.49. According to Radio Control Car Action April review their best pass was 21mph, they don't say exactly what batteries they used or the gearing they had but that's probably pretty close.

I hope that helps.





JR