Kyosho Inferno/Turbo Inferno Forum [Archive]

DesertRacer

08-19-2001, 11:37 AM

oso

08-22-2001, 11:06 PM

Steve you have a car that you'll enjoy very much, as I have enjoyed my inferno dx.
And desertracer, I think we all have hone the same way with our wives, but they're right we really have fun out of it, don't we?
:) ;)

Jose Manuel

Rotorranch

09-05-2001, 06:25 PM

I still have a Turbo Burns, and an Inferno. Both cars are still great! I had O.S. RX-B engines in both, but bought a Paris-Picco P-5 mod with the trick con rod just before the 3rd Kyosho gas challenge at Georgia Hobby Center in Fayetteville,GA. Both O.S. engines are due for rebuilds, but the Paris-Picco still screams! The Turbo Burns/RX-B ran at the 1st Kyosho cahllenge in Champaign, IL, and the 2nd Kyosho Challenge in Detroit. I had the inferno in Detroit, but it was real new and not dialed in near as good as the T. Burns.

I still love those cars! Never any wierd breakage problems like my son's Ofna MBX R2's. They are like the Energizer Bunny....just keep going, and going......

And I really tick off my buddy with his new Ultra Worlds 2, and my son. They just can't keep up with the old dinosaurs.

Sure would like to find a spare T-Burns body. I just mounted the last new spare I had, and hate to not have a replacement. I have one more of the "bootleg" Inferno bodies that were going around; wouldn't mind finding a couple of those either.

Rotor

maxxxracer

09-14-2001, 04:57 PM

Lets bring this forum back from the dead. I am getting a Mp6, and i was wondering if there is anything i should know?

Einsteindks

09-14-2001, 09:35 PM

Duratrax's multi-disk brake system is an excellent upgrade to start with. Next, I'd look for a ball bearing steering setup. What engine you looking to use? Radio?

maxxxracer

09-14-2001, 11:23 PM

The one im getting comes with a os RG engine. I was going to get the Hardcore multi disk set up. For radio I am using the lynx 3d with airtronics 94258 and 94257 servos.

Einsteindks

09-16-2001, 10:25 AM

While not a competition grade engine, the OS RG will still let you have a lot of fun and be a little more forgiving if you don't know how to tune an engine yet. Radio setup sound good. Dont forget to put in a throttle return spring to close the carb if you have battery/signal problems. My Infernos have one each. One end around the slide valve ballend, the other hooked onto the center diff housing top plate. A coreless servo at the throttle will let the spring do its thing a WHOLE lot easier than a regular servo.

maxxxracer

09-16-2001, 02:41 PM

well actually i have to use 2 throttle return springs with my throttle servo. It just laughs at one of them. Along with the throttle retrun springs I am going to use a dynamite safe gaurd thing just to make shure it doesnt go crazy.

Oh, I do know how to tune engines very well. OS engines are a sinch to tune.

[ 09-16-2001: Message edited by: maxxxracer ]

Einsteindks

09-17-2001, 09:38 PM

If you have the rubber sealed bearings, clean up will be a snap. Remove the radio tray, cap off all openings, and 'hose' it off with Simple Green and a toothbrush. :D Don't forget to put a drop or two of lube in each drive joint at the front and rear diffs when you're done. ;)

maxxxracer

09-17-2001, 11:23 PM

thanks for the tip.

Einsteindks

10-26-2001, 09:29 PM

With winter time coming up, anyone ever run your Burns/Inferno series buggy in the snow? How about some tips, storries, etc.

I made some 'chains' for mine a while back. They worked alright, but I couldn't get them tight enough to stay in place on the tire assembly. Too much power (such a thing?) going to the wheels. It did make for some good six foot rooster tails of snow!:D :D :cool:

Toyz-R-Me

12-28-2001, 10:06 PM

Just digging into the options for my DX to upgrade and came across lots of variations for this buggy over the years.

Turbo Inferno
InfernoST
Inferno DX
Inferno DXII
Inferno MP5
Inferno MP5 Long Wheelbase (option)
Inferno MP6
Inferno MP6 Sports
Inferno MP6 International
Inferno MP7.5
Inferno MP7.5 Kanai Worlds Edition

I may have forgotten a few but you get the point. Just an FYI.

How have you other DX owners upgraded from the basic kit?:confused: :D

Einsteindks

12-29-2001, 12:16 AM

I have a Turbo Inferno and an Inferno that's been built up to a Turbo Inferno (you forgot to list the 'regular' Inferno!). They share a radio system; the tray gets swaped between the two. The Inferno ST is a truck version. It got bigger tires/wheels. You also forgot the Inferno Landmax. Once again, all same chassis, but with narrower suspension arms. This series has undergone some changes to its current version.

StevePond

12-29-2001, 08:39 AM

Don't forget the Burns, Burns DX and Turbo Burns... :D

Toyz-R-Me

12-29-2001, 11:44 PM

Does anybody know which flip-top fuel tank will fit into the Inferno DX without modifying the mounting holes from the stock locations? I dug my car out a few days ago (it's been a while) and want to get it going again. This mod is needed because my fingers aren't small enough to fit through the cooling hole to unscrew the stock lid anymore. A fliptop would be much more convenient. Thanks for your help ! :)

Einsteindks

12-30-2001, 12:30 AM

Any one of the current models for the MP will fit yours fine. I think Kyosho kept the same part number for the tank, but I'm not sure without searching for it. Check out Tower Hobbies, they've a good site search system. The pressure fitting was moved into the lid from the top face of the tank. You can put a zip-tie in the end of the flip top and leave the excess for a pull strap to lift the lid with the body in place.

Toyz-R-Me

12-30-2001, 02:11 AM

Thanks for your help Big "E". You are becoming a great resource for these relics. Any more advice you want to pass along to improve my stock DX would be appreciated.

Einsteindks

12-30-2001, 12:27 PM

Um, rubber sealed bearings, ball bearing supported steering (AL Heavy Duty version -- BSW-67 needs large servo-saver on the servo; plastic version -- BSW-86 is much like stock and needs no extra parts), multi-brake disk kit from Duratrax, and chassis braces front and rear, sealed difs with thick silicon fluid (strongly resists 'unloading') to name a few.
If I get an important or unique part, I'll keep the package tag with the part number and write the cost and other key info on the blank reverse side. It then goes into a small tool box with the other slips and tickets for future reference. It eliminates "what/where/how much" if someone asks me, or if I need to reorder more. Companies have a limited amount of room, so they tend to let old items be omitted from catalogs and such. So the only person you can rely on is yourself for your ride's info.

bobparki

01-05-2002, 03:04 AM

I need a little help with the steering play on my new MP7.5. The problem is too much play. I think. The steering plate holes and the flanged brushings under the steering pins are not a close fit. There seems to be about .020 play in each one. This can’t be normal, is it? The plate and the two pins with the bushings are $16.00 at tower. So I thought I would order them and see how they fit. Comments would be most appreciated.
TIA
Bob

Einsteindks

01-06-2002, 02:55 AM

There is a thread here for the later versions of the Inferno, the 'MP' ones. Double check to see that you've assembled the front end as per instructions first, though. The stock set-up on the Inferno line, all of them, is not perfect, but rather close. I found the ball bearing kits to be far better. Even more so if sealed bearings could be found to use instead of regular shielded ones. That keeps maintenance down to near zero, plus slop is confined to only the ball ends wearing out.

bobparki

01-06-2002, 12:40 PM

Thanks
Bob

Toyz-R-Me

01-07-2002, 07:58 PM

Einstein, could you please help me out. I am in the process of ordering upgrades for my DX and you recommended the chassis braces and sealed diff's. Do you have a manufacturer and part # you could give me for each of these parts? Have you installed the stabilizer bar option on your Inferno? I've ordered a set an will be getting them at the end of this week. Thanks for your help.:)

Einsteindks

01-07-2002, 09:23 PM

Do I have part #s? DO I HAVE PART #S? >thunder/lighning< How dare you even question my wealth of Inferno info!!! >more lightning, heavy thunder< :D :D Alright, the chassis braces may/may not be available. The part #s were: front-DTXC2570, rear-DTXC2571. Both made by Duratrax. As far as the difs are concerned, they only come in a sealed version now. Just use the part # from the instruction sheet; the case is KYOC3287, and the end that goes into the ring gear is KYOC3287. I'm not sure if the 0-rings are included. They're relatively cheep, and come in a packet of 10. Part #KYOC3309. I have both front and rear anti-sway bars. The rear is a definate need. The front helps a little and will be fine for bashing. Some pro racers went without the front. It's up to you, experiment to find your preference.

Toyz-R-Me

01-07-2002, 09:40 PM

Hey Einstein, I can here the thunder rolling in. It's gonna be a long night. Not to question your almighty authority, but you listed the dif case and shaft as the same part number ?????? Thanks alot for your help! (again):)

Einsteindks

01-07-2002, 09:47 PM

My bad, frazzed day at work. Ok, case is KYOC3287, the end that goes into the ring gear is KYOC3306. Us Supreme Beings have the occasional off day. God had one while he was designing the platypus; duck bill, mammal, lays eggs... What a mixture!

Toyz-R-Me

01-11-2002, 04:32 PM

Einstein, I got my stabilizer bar set today, I was wondering if you could post a picture or e-mail me a picture of your car with yours installed. There are no instructions on how to mount them, so I'm totally lost. I'm still at work and don't have my car in front of me, but I don't recall there being provisions on my DX bulkheads to mount these things. Thanks.

Einsteindks

01-11-2002, 08:56 PM

In both the front and rear, the shock tower plate holds the bars in small cut-outs in the bulkheads. I found that the front bar needs to be altered a little to avoid some binding. I tweaked the last 60% of the ends down a bit, not much, to clear the upper arms.

Rotorranch

01-12-2002, 05:15 PM

Tower recently had the rear chassis braces on blowout sale. I got one on my last Tower Order. I haven't installed it yet.

On most of the tracks I ran on, I used the rear anti-roll bar set at the softest position, (links all the way to the end of the bar, and no front bar.

If I remember right, the old Schumacher Cat had rubber sealed bearings that fit the Inferno just fine. These ought to be dirt cheap now, if you can find a set of them. A LHS with them on the wall would likely just about give them to you just to get them out of inventory! ;)

Rotor

Einsteindks

01-12-2002, 06:08 PM

If the sway bars are a tad loose in those grooves, slip a length of small fuel tubing on it, the length of the section between the bulkhead grooves. And about the rear brace, I've bent/broken some parts of it, but easily rigged up an equivilant part. The one part that is unique, the rear small plate, hasn't broken or been bent at all. It also makes for an excelent place to route fuel intake tubing. Gives me plenty of time to get to the buggy in a large field when (not if :D) it flips over.

ecatbox

02-12-2002, 03:41 PM

<bump>

yes, this has been a very helpful thread for me as a landmax junkie (dxII)...now how bout some pics...

tekrsq

02-12-2002, 07:55 PM

Hey, is the Inferno 10 included in this? I've still got one. I loved that thing and used to run the mess out of it, but haven't ran it in over a year because parts are next to impossible to find. Anybody know of anywhere that might still have some laying around?

ecatbox

02-12-2002, 08:17 PM

tower probably still carries all the parts for it...what are you looking for?

edit: yah this thread is intended for the 8th scale infernos but i doubt anybody will mind

Einsteindks

02-12-2002, 09:07 PM

The Inferno 10 shared some parts with other Kyosho models. My best guess without looking is the Lazer series. At least for suspension pieces and f/r bulkheads. I tried to get a new front bumper last year only to learn Kyosho doesn't have any anymore:mad: .

tekrsq

02-13-2002, 06:14 AM

I was looking for a bumper as well. Also, a body and suspension arms. I'll have to cross reference the Lazer parts, I didn't know they were that close. I found some parts that are shared with one of their on-road cars, but unfortunately, it wasn't anything that I usually break. Thanks guys.

ecatbox

04-14-2002, 06:34 AM

a pic of my new inferno (ebay special edition)...not sure which model it is exactly but it has the blue plates, countersunk chassis and front universals (thinking DX II)...put one of my cvecs on it and added a nice new steel spur and the radio tray and misc. stuff from a donor landmax and this puppy was the terror of the street today...

kickup schmickup...they should pay yuichi kanai extra to whip up on the ofna/mugen boys with a 15 year old car, just to show that it can be done

http://***********/gp20/misc/inferno2.jpg

fab

04-16-2002, 05:38 AM

He guys,

I also own an Inferno (DX). I bought it second hand form a friend who nearly drove it. It's my first car ever and I really like it. I think it's a great car to start with.
I was starting to look for hop-ups so I bumped into this thread. A major thing I'd like to change is the radio box. I really don't like how the reveicer+battery-pack is installed. I'd love to have a box for it like on the Mp6 and Mp7.5.
I did find those part at Tower but I'd like to know some dimension so I can make sure I'll be able to install them. Or if anyone has done this on their Inferno ? (I'll probably have to modify my radio plate but that's not a problem)

Box for the 7.5 :
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/WTI0095P
Box for the 6 :
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/WTI0095P

Also what other hop-ups would you advise (except for the things already mentioned in this thread; thanks for those) ? Would a tuned pipe be a good idea. (I'm still running the GS-21 with the standard muffler, the engine nearly ran + it's more then powerfull enough to start with so I'm not considering chaning it yet.)

ecatbox

04-16-2002, 11:45 PM

tuned pipe would be a good start...maybe some oil in the diffs and a rear swaybar...and some kind of front brace, even if it's as simple as a turnbuckle between the center diff and front plate...

i think the MP5/6 radio box is narrower and taller than the MP7.5 one, and should fit in pretty easily...i was planning to do the same thing with my cars actually...makes me nervous having all the goodies hanging out...

fab

04-17-2002, 05:47 AM

Hi Bukkake,

Thanks for the info. I'll look into those hop-ups right away.

About the Radio box, do you know a picture of the mp5/6 where you can see the radio box. I saw what the 7.5 one looks like (plus you can see a pic. of the parts at tower) and I think it should fit in...

I'll probably make an order somewhere next week, I'll let you know if it works for me.

fab

ecatbox

04-17-2002, 06:56 PM

sounds good...

heres a pic

http://***********/gp20/misc/mp6-0098.jpg

fab

04-17-2002, 09:12 PM

Cool thanks,

I'm gonna go to my LHS tomorrow, they can usually get Kyosho parts in about a week :)

I think I'm going to order the 7.5 anyway ... it looks more fancy :) (I hope it will fit :) ... if it doesn't I'll just have to buy the rest of the mp 7.5). I'll get the radio plate too I guess, it's not really expensive and I won't have to cut the old one.

I'll get the Chassis Brace Kit from Duratrax too I think and rear sway bar ... are there any special for the old Inferno's or can I just get the one that goes on the MP's ?

fab

ecatbox

04-18-2002, 11:35 PM

rear swaybar part number is BS-63 aka KYOC5953...about $10

go1d1e

05-06-2002, 08:10 AM

Anyone actually still race their DX competitively?

I`m still in the process of getting mine up and running, looking around for a new body. Has anyone tried fitting different bodies?

how about hopups?

did the radio box fit?

thanks in advance

fab

05-06-2002, 11:05 AM

how about hopups?

Just read this thread.

did the radio box fit?

I'm still waiting for it :(
It seems to take ages. Probably the distributor didn't have it stock anymore.

I HOPE to get it by the end of this week, or next week :(

fab

go1d1e

05-06-2002, 05:54 PM

Yea, thanks.. i read the thread from start to stop.. and saw the hop ups mentioned..

I thought there may be a company like Ofna who made aftermarket hop ups.. the only one i saw them do was for the 7.5 which was a chasis brace for front.

I always wanted a graphite/carbon fiber radio tray, shock towers, and front/middle brace..

and finnaly, anyone still competitively racing?

go1d1e

05-11-2002, 12:11 AM

no ideas?

I know of ONE company when I used to race years ago that offered a FEW composite parts.. but that was when the DX was almost a current car..

ecatbox

05-11-2002, 12:34 PM

you might want to keep an eye on this guy (the seller), i have dealt with him before with no probs:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1725537912

here's my list of inferno/landmax parts and options, it's geared more to the landmax but you can use about everything on here:

http://***********/gp20/GP-20-parts.txt

as far as racing, no reason it couldn't be competitive in the hands of the right driver...no front kick-up but i doubt that ever won any races...and imagine the bragging rights

"i beat you with a car that is OLDER THAN YOU ARE"

go1d1e

05-12-2002, 06:02 AM

Doh, thts just what I was looking for... and its relatively local too..

ecatbox

05-12-2002, 07:46 PM

well like i say, keep an eye on him..he has sold at least 2 sets of those already...tower still lists the radio tray (at $17) but i think the others are discontinued...

Pr0k

05-13-2002, 11:04 PM

Originally posted by bukkake
well like i say, keep an eye on him..he has sold at least 2 sets of those already...tower still lists the radio tray (at $17) but i think the others are discontinued...
I recently bought a kit from the same guy Graphite Radio tray, front brace and Center Diff cover was 25 bucks delivered he was a nice guy and shipped as soon as he recieved payment.

go1d1e

05-18-2002, 08:06 AM

Has nyone ever seen a one piece brace that runs from the front brace to the middle brace?

Years ago, when I got my car used, it had this one. The brakes were also moved up front, which is causing a few problems for me now.

I`1m not sure if the problem lies in the way I have it linked up, or two of my servos screwing up independantly in the same way. Seems they won`t center correctly, leaving the throttle open 30/40% when the brakes are released.

help?

go1d1e

05-19-2002, 02:29 AM

ok, heres a quick pic of the problem..
no ideas?

http://firestorm.tilehill.ac.uk/~gold/pics/inferno/inferno7.jpg

other pics
http://firestorm.tilehill.ac.uk/~gold/pics/inferno/

ecatbox

05-19-2002, 09:58 PM

heres a pic of a older duratrax piece (DTXC2570) that does the same job...discontinued now but you may be able to find one if you look hard enough...its the red piece of course

http://***********/gp20/Calsonic/calskyline011.jpg

you can also just bolt a turnbuckle in there like below, but that obviously wouldn't help much with the lateral stiffness aspect of things...

(click dis) http://www.radiocontrolzone.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=570271

go1d1e

05-20-2002, 08:25 AM

thanks.. but my problem still stnds..

I tried the second servo, with the sme results.. I tried letting off the brakes little at the brke end.. but the servos still dont center properly.

everytime i apply the brkes, then let go, the throttle comes open, like the servo horn is slipping almost, but it isn`t.

ecatbox

05-20-2002, 03:51 PM

sorry, i was tired last night and completely missed the important part...make sure that front brake setup is not binding (it looks highly questionable, i would put the front brake back in it's normal place) and if necessary, rotate the servo horn a few degrees to the left (as pictured) to preload the little spring on the throttle linkage a bit at idle...

look at this link if you need to see how the linkage is supposed to be set up:

http://***********/gp20/Reference/man15.gif

go1d1e

05-23-2002, 05:58 PM

Well, I ended up using an old servo horn of a little elec car i had stowed away instead of the big blue ofna one (which had an adapter to fit to the hitec servo), and it *SEEMS* to work ok now.. I have a feeling the big horn or adapter was slipping.

Oh, I also moved the rear brake link to the inside. Kinda of a tight fit, but it works good.

All thats left on the list is a new Rx pack or two, and then to re-remember how to tune and run the engine.. It has been waaay too many years

thganks for your help bukkake.

ecatbox

05-24-2002, 04:34 AM

eheh no prob...glad you got it worked out

go1d1e

06-19-2002, 09:56 PM

Ok, another question about throttle linkages again..

anyonwe have a return spring fitted? I figured it was a good idea, but haven`t found a good place to mount it. And when it is mounted, the servo won`t push the throttle open 100%.

but if i lessen the load on the spring, it doesn`t close the throttle when power is lost to the servo :-/

What am I doing wrong? I ran the DX today without the spring, and of course.. murphys law states it ran away.. luckily, no dmage except my pride.

so.. any help? pics?

Also.. thinking of getting a failsafe (knowing my luck).. any recomendations?

Rich

Unobjectionable

06-20-2002, 12:29 AM

you can sorta see the spring in the inferno pic i posted before...it wraps around a center diff post with both ends attached to the servo horn...i loctite the hell out of that screw on the carb that holds the ball end and pray for the best...even if the throttle linkage were to come off during a runaway, the spring will apply some brake...ideally you would also have a rubber band or light spring etc. to pull the throttle slide closed if that were to happen

here's the pic again, to save scrolling...ehehe

http://***********/gp20/misc/inferno2.jpg

p.s. the dynamite failsafe is cheap ($30) but i hear they are kinda iffy in terms of quality control, ofna makes one for the same price which i have heard good things about (and will probably try myself) and the KO and futaba ones run $10-20 more and are supposedly the same unit...NOTE: no failsafe will do anything if power is lost suddenly (battery falls out, wires cut etc) and so should not be considered a replacement for a good old fashioned spring, only a little extra peace of mind against glitching, loss of signal and interference-related runaways

go1d1e

06-20-2002, 09:32 AM

aahhha! That took mne a few minutes to spot.. but mkes sense now i re read it..

that would stop my push rod to the throttle bending also. I`ll try this out.. I never thought of not having the spring attched to the carb itself..

think outside the box..

go1d1e

06-21-2002, 01:55 PM

Well, that worked great.. till the servo died..

ok, another question.. Clutches.. whats a good one to get?

good gear count for clutch bell? I think the one i have is 14t, which works good for me.

Rich

Unobjectionable

06-21-2002, 09:01 PM

the old school kc-45 hd clutch is nice (KYOC2990)...wider than the stock one, works better and lasts longer

14t sounds about right, stick with whats workin for you eheh

go1d1e

06-24-2002, 06:49 PM

Well I hate to spend the money.. but it had to be done..

Ofna 3shoe clutch kit - 30 bucks
ofna 14t harderned clutchbell - 20 bucks
hitec 645MG - 40 bucks
and finally, the MP7.5 radio box (at last) - 12 bucks

Lets just hope its gets here this week so i can race saturday!!

I think my wife is starting to dislike this hobby... Especially when she saw the prices of the wheel/tire combo!

Unobjectionable

06-24-2002, 08:58 PM

yeah it's not hard to rack up the $$$ buying parts, i try to avoid looking at my tower "past orders" for fear of finding out how much i have spent and ruining my enjoyment of the hobby...ehehe

go1d1e

07-03-2002, 11:12 PM

next question....

how close does your rear brake disc get to the flywheel?

I just noticed that mine actually rubbed slightly :-/

Rich

Unobjectionable

07-03-2002, 11:18 PM

the ofna unit (and most 8th scale "generic" flywheels in general) are 10mm thick, some of the kyosho ones are 14mm...so you have to play around a little with the positioning...

whch engine do you have, hard to guess from the pic...maybe a megatech?

go1d1e

07-04-2002, 10:48 AM

The engine is actually named a Mugen UNO.. made by nova rossi but not quite as expensive :)

I just got a OFNA 3 shoe clutch and flywheel kit, and its more the diameter that gets in the way.. When I can get my hands on the camera, i`ll try take a closeup, but in the past i`ve just spacered the brakes towards the read of the car with extra metal bits.. This has the effect of moving the brake disc behind the flywheel..

anyhow, now I got the 7.5 radio box, it was rubbing on there so i needed to reshim it back to how is should be..

Unobjectionable

07-04-2002, 11:12 AM

i have a ofna 3 shoe also, test fit it with the picco the other day and had to flip the blocks around to have it mesh right, but nothing was rubbing...mine has a groove in the middle between the actual flywheel part and the little pedestal the shoes sit on

go1d1e

07-04-2002, 02:28 PM

Yea I guess I could flip them around.. just seems like so much work :-/

It mesh`s fine, runs great now I got some new glowplugs..

Maybe when i stip it down to clean next..

Rich

go1d1e

07-04-2002, 04:48 PM

Well, i broke it agin..

That bold/nut that holds on the flywheel sheared off.. kinda sucks, cos like I said, the car was running well..

Anyone got any experience with sending defective goods back?
You think it was defective? I mean, what could I have done wrong putting that on???

Rich

Unobjectionable

07-04-2002, 09:28 PM

sounds defective to me...tower is good about that kind of stuff, but they will probably want the whole thing

go1d1e

07-04-2002, 10:22 PM

Well, this is wht tower says on their website...

DEFECTIVE RETURNS

If the item you wish to return is inoperable, but has no apparent damage, it is considered defective. The instructions on how to handle this type of return will vary, since some manufacturers insist on handling defects directly. Defective merchandise may be returned to us as long as it is in new and unused condition. Used, defective merchandise should be returned directly to the manufacturer for warranty repair or replacement or see Returns to Hobby Services, below.

Manufacturer defects found after the product has been used revert to the manufacturer’s warranty (a copy of which can be obtained upon customer request) and they will handle any problems for you directly. If you can determine that a product is defective before using it, we may be able to accept it back for exchange or refund; however, we suggest that you call our Order Assistance line before taking any action.

So i`m guessing tht it has to be sent to ofna..

who knows..

I`ll wait to hear from them

MP 7.5

07-25-2002, 06:11 PM

I have a Turbo Burns . I replaced the old stock chassis with the nitro crusher chassis but I dont like them they are not counter sunk and they are only 2.5 mm thick, compared to the 3.2 mm stock chassis I've searched the net trying to find the original chassis and varius other parts for the Turbo Burns I ve also went to several hobby stores in my area and asked if they had any parts. They tell me that all the parts are discontinued and that I would be better off buying a newer buggy. But I love my Turbo Burns! So does anyone know where I can get the stock chassis for it and maybe the original body I would appreciate your help .
And one more thing , Ive already checked tower hobbies and they dont sell the original chassis nor the body.

Unobjectionable

07-26-2002, 08:24 PM

you should probably check out the nitro crusher forum on this site, some relevant info there

i doubt anybody would mind if you started a burns/turbo burns forum, i know there are at least 1 or 2 others here who have them

fab

08-19-2002, 04:35 AM

Hello guys,

I still don't have any pics of my Inferno (DX) but now I do have the Mp 7.5 radio box / fuel tank / radio plate now. <br><br>
The radio plate does NOT fit withour serious modifications (It will touch the spur gear :-/) so I did not use that one.

The fuel tank fits right in but it does press against the center diff mount but it's not really a problem.

To install the radio box I had to cut the radio plate so it now looks like the mp 7.5 radio plate. I did not have to drill extra holes in the chasis. I only used 2 screws to fix the radio box but it's sitting very tight. So it does fit but it's really tight between the radio plate and the back diff case.

I WILL post pics of this once i'll finally get a scanner that DOES work with win2k.

I'm also planning to buy a new engine. Either an OS RZ V01B or an RB WS7. Any advice on how to install such an engine on the DX -chassis ? KYOC3531 BSW-57 Flywheel, BSW-58 Flywheel nut BSW-59 Clutch bell guide, BS-025 engine mount, manifold. Anything else ?! I just wanna be sure I wont have any problems to install it ! Also I'd like to switch to a 3 point clutch .....

Bye,

fab

Unobjectionable

08-19-2002, 10:22 PM

yeah that 7.5 box is a big sucker aint it? eheh...i finally did get my MP-5/6 radio box, just had to wait for the boat to get from japan to illinois (tower)

sounds like you are on course with the parts, and that you know the OS will use a different manifold if you go that route (i would go with the WS7 or plain jane S7 personally)...here's the parts for the 3 shoe setup

KYOC3528 IFW-50 Flywheel, 3 shoe type Thickness: 10.5mm (20.9mm Including Pins)
or
KYOC3527 IFW-51 Flywheel, 3 shoe type, for OS with double brake discs - Thickness: 14mm (24.2mm w/ Pins)
and
KYOC3529 IFW-54 Clutch nut, SG type, with groove for 3 shoe clutch
KYOC4712 IFW-55 Pilot shaft. for threaded engines, with groove for 3 shoe clutch
KYOC3013 IFW-52 Clutch shoes, for 3 shoe flywheel (3) washer included
IFW-53H Clutch springs, for 3 shoe setup, hard (can't find the KYOC number)

note that you can also use the (much cheaper) ofna kit, but will probably have to play around with the engine mounts and/or shims to get it to fit just right

go1d1e

08-20-2002, 06:42 AM

I went the OS RG with Ofna clutch kit route..

RG- 140 bucks
ofna kit- 30 bucks

No problem with fitting it.. plenty of power for me and my old DX too..

As fr the 7.5 radio box.. I had a few problems putting that in myself, but managed to get it in eventualy.. Still a bit awkward to use though. I think I need to make a new chasis, radio plate and some other bits to adjust it that little bit..

Pr0k

08-20-2002, 03:05 PM

Goldie congrats dude, yeah I have that same engine in my mp6 and was gonna try the ofna clutch too. Glad it worked out for you. yeah i have the radio box from the mp7.5 too but haven;t attempted to switch it out yet.

go1d1e

08-20-2002, 03:23 PM

All i need now are the splash gaurds from around the sides.. then re-do the front and rear brace, as they were kinda bodged together at the last minute..

other than that... i`m kinda happy with it as it is :)

Oh, one thing.. bubkake, or whatever name you go by now.. that throttle return spring idea.. works great! but did you experience a drastic loss of run time from the Rx battery?

Rich

Unobjectionable

08-21-2002, 12:23 AM

no, not drastic...yours might be a little tight, especially if the throttle servo sounds like it's groaning trying to hold it at idle (with the engine off of course)...remember that with the engine running, the vibration will actually help the spring pull the throttle closed...

go1d1e

08-21-2002, 09:35 AM

hmm, maybe i`ll stretch the spring a little then.. it doesn`t seem to strain too much though..

As for the splash gaurds, has anyone tried the ofna ones? I just noticed they did different colors :)

turboburns

08-26-2002, 09:19 AM

Hey guys I just found this forum and I have an Inferno Turbo Burns that I aquired second hand. Since I have had it I have installed an engine on it (Ofna Delta Force P8) and a tuned pipe. I have been reading all the things ya'll have done to yours. I have a question regarding the hex hubs for the rims. Has anyone tried changing these out to go to a 17mm hex instead of the 19mm hex stock? And also what are some good hop ups to add to mine? I have a home made torque rod for the front, kinda cheesy but it works for now, I am fixing to replace all the bearings in it, and I installed a new 3 shoe clutch set up when I installed the new engine. I have been looking at the alum. clutch shoes also but are they actually worth getting? I am looking forward to reading more in this forum about a still good buggy, and any help is appreciated.

Unobjectionable

08-27-2002, 01:31 AM

there is an ofna part (OFN86000) that should let you mount the newer 17mm wheels, but i haven't tried it myself ($10 a set at horizonhobby.com, i am unsure if that is for 2 or 4, nor do i know if they use wheel nuts or the stock washer/bolt setup)

i can let you know in a week or two, i'm curious now..eheh

from what i hear, the aluminum 3 shoe setups are very snappy on the bottom end (in a good way) and last for a long time...pretty expensive though

your TB sounds cool, let's see some PICS! ehehe, nice to see somebody still enjoying an older car...

goldie, i'm sure you could make the ofna guards fit with a little creativity

btw, i got a turbo inferno the other day, more of a parts car really, but it was cheap...has some nice goodies too, including the blue BSW shocks, the rare (nowadays) 3mm blue anodized countersunk chassis (well-scratched but straight) and the BS-20 universals (getting hard to find these now)...and the neon green rims and wing i used to drool over when i was 18 or whatever..haha

turboburns

08-27-2002, 08:21 AM

Thanks for the info. I love running the old buggy, still works great. I been running it against new ofna buggies and even a kanai edition and it holds its own very well. Does the turbo burns come with a counter sunk chassis? I am not sure about what is stock on mine and what was changed before i got it. i know i had 2 different type suspensions for the front and rear and a single break center diff when i got it. right now i have the f/r brake system on it. but the rear brake cam and lever is under the diff support instead of on top like the newer ones. i plan to get the brake cam from an mp 5 to fix this and increase the rear brake performance. this past weekend i had the buggy atleast 6 feet in the air so you can till i cut no slack on this thing. even though it might be an older buggy it still holds up very well.

turboburns

08-27-2002, 08:23 AM

Oh and as soon as i get it back together i will make some pics of it to post. currently it is in pieces, i am cleaning the old bearings trying to reuse them till money gets better where i can replace them.

Unobjectionable

08-27-2002, 11:24 PM

yep, turbo burns came with a nice countersunk chassis, the nice shocks, front universals, steel ring and pinion gears and other goodies...it also used inferno suspension parts (different front a-arms and carriers, pic here (http://***********/gp20/misc/burnsvsinferno02..jpg), with burns left and turbo burns/inferno right) so it was kind of a transition from the burns to inferno chassis, and also leaves some neat retrofitting possibilities, including inferno front shock towers...here's a link to a nice site that has more details...

http://www.rcwizard.com/rczone/

he has a good page with a ton of info in the various sections

btw, the burns and inferno both had the brake cams under that plate, i think it was the MP-5 that started using the tall one...and i can recommend a couple of sellers on ebay i have gotten some outstanding deals on the 8x16 bearings from..you can get a nice complete set (18) of rubber sealed for around $25, so don't pay more than that

looking forward to the pics, never had a burns but i understand they are very heavy duty...theres a reason even the new kits have all these BS-xx and BSW-xxx parts in em...eheh...i think it may have also been the first car designed by yuichi kanai, but i'm not sure about that one...i know he has done the entire inferno series though

turboburns

08-28-2002, 08:53 AM

Thanks alot for the pic and links. This is helping me alot on finding out what exactly I have and from the looks of things I have a mixed car. When I got it there was 2 suspension types, one was the original burns and the other is the one I am using now the turbo burns version. Most of the burns suspension was broke. But from the link you included the diff housing on mine most be an Inferno version, mine does not have the semiclear slide off plastic top, instead it is solid black plastic like the sides. The most noticible difference is the radio tray set up. Mine has a radio tray more like an MP 6 but it is a full length from front to back with no radio or battery box. Later roday I will try to get some half way descent pictures made of it, my camera is a cheap version so picture quality isnt very good. As far as the bearings I can get a complete set of Duratrax brand bearings from Tower Hobbies for $27.99. Not sure if I am going that route yet, not sure of the bearing type they are selling. Again thanks for your help

Unobjectionable

08-29-2002, 11:00 AM

the duratrax ones are teflon sealed i believe

you may have an inferno after all...i'll tell you for sure when i see the pics, but thats what it sounds like from the bulkhead and radio tray stuff (inferno one has a sort of X shape cut in at the rear)

if the chassis has "12-245" stamped on it up by the fuel tank (which is in the rear on a burns), definitely an inferno

turboburns

08-30-2002, 10:16 AM

Here are some pics of my buggy. Its still alittle dirty from running earlier and my cam isnt the greatest but it works for now. There are a few things I have changed on it, like the fuel tank is an Ofna tank, the rear brake lever is home made (works great though) and the radio box is another Ofna piece. My lhs can't order Kyosho products at the time so I am stuck ordering Ofna parts till next year.

turboburns

08-30-2002, 10:20 AM

The front torque rod is also home made. Here is a pic of the front.

turboburns

08-30-2002, 10:23 AM

Picture of the other side.

turboburns

08-30-2002, 10:27 AM

Picture od radio tray. Sorry about the picture size I had to cut some off to get the pic to fit in here.

go1d1e

08-30-2002, 11:27 AM

Looks like an Inferno to me!

turboburns

08-30-2002, 02:41 PM

well if it is an inferno then i need to change my name then, lol. Thanks for the help in telling me what it is, I am not very familiar with the older series buggies but when this one was given to me i jumped on it. I have to admit though it has been a great car so far. I do have a few pieces for the burns and turbo burns if anyone is looking for some parts.

go1d1e

08-30-2002, 07:36 PM

well, it looks like it to me.. wait for confirmation.. and I by no means can tell you which model..

Certainly looks like a nice one though..

While i`m posting, wht setups are you guys running on your diffs?
I have an djustable one in the center, and just tightened it up as much as i could, seems to be helping.. (I can lmost wheelie, with help)

go1d1e

08-30-2002, 07:43 PM

Oh, yea.. I almost forgot..

anyone interested in Crbon Fibre parts for the infernos?
If so, how much would you be willing to pay for these items?

I think I found a manufcturer that makes/has made various parts..

Rich

turboburns

08-31-2002, 01:12 AM

I am currently runnig 7k Ofna diff fluid in the center and front diffs with the tires in the pics I posted and i am hooking up really good in a loose top hard bottom dirt track. I plan to change the front to 10k to see how it does. Whith the Ofna p8 engine I am running a 14t clutch bell but soon up grading to a 16t. Shock oil is 40 right now but the pistons I am running is way to big for the oil. As far as the springs go all I can tell ya is that the front is old model Ofna stock springs and the back is stock Inferno springs but the seam to be working pretty good other than the front are a little to soft. I am running 2 degree toe in on the rear with just a slight bit of toe out on the front for more steering, and I believe that I am gonna set it to straight up. This is just what I am working with right now, I plan to try out some more setups later. I would be glad to share what is working best for me later if you are interested in hearing. Thanks again on the help with my buggy.

Unobjectionable

08-31-2002, 05:31 PM

sure thing...

i agree it seems to be an inferno after all, this is not a bad thing at all as i think the design is better (and it's a good bit lighter)...and the car is certainly still competitive with most anything you are likely to see at the track, makes me laugh that people will spend BIG $$$ to have the latest and greatest when it is, and always has been, more about the driver than the car...

parts are cheaper too, check out KYOC5850/BSW-65 for some fairly cheap springs ($10 for 3 sets) or just look at my more or less all-inclusive parts list (http://***********/gp20/GP-20-parts.txt), set up initially for the landmax 1 (same inferno chassis) but has most of the inferno stuff in there too...(can you tell i really like these cars?)

goldie, i'm not sure what you are talking about with the adjustable center diff...if it is the kyosho BSW-34 piece, that part that you can move back and forth is just to keep the flat spur gears from jumping around...

whats the scoop on the fiber pieces? i have two big sheets of 3mm fiber and a special router table i built to cut it with here, i will be highly annoyed if somebody is muscling in on my as yet nonexistent action...my parts will still be cheaper and prettier though ehehe...you aren't talking about the jammin jay MP-5 stuff are you?

go1d1e

08-31-2002, 06:00 PM

Well, the center diff has a little collar on it with some sort of sprung washer setup.. its hard to describe, i`ll try take a pic tommorow for your eyes to see for yourself..
but basically, you tighten up this collar, and it stiffens up the diff.. Unless it just happens to do that and is meant for some other use completely. It was installed before I got the car.

as for the CF gear.. I remember having the side plates in carbon fibre when I got my car, I took them off for some stupid reason, and never found them since then. Anyhow, they are still available, along with original inferno parts.. almost anything flat..
once again, i`ll try find the pics, and if anyone is interested, i`ll try find the prices I can get them at..

Rich

go1d1e

08-31-2002, 06:41 PM

ok, found the camera..

not real good pics, but maybe you`ll get an idea here..

http://firestorm.tilehill.ac.uk/~gold/pics/inferno/diff1.jpg

http://firestorm.tilehill.ac.uk/~gold/pics/inferno/diff2.jpg

http://firestorm.tilehill.ac.uk/~gold/pics/inferno/diff3.jpg

http://firestorm.tilehill.ac.uk/~gold/pics/inferno/diff4.jpg

still working on the CF parts... or the pics even

Unobjectionable

08-31-2002, 06:56 PM

yeah i think we are talking about the same thing with the center diff piece...it's just to keep play out of the center diff when using the flat steel spurs, tightening it too much will just bind it up

BSW-34:

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p.pgm?Q=1&I=LXT802&P=7

curious to see those carbon fiber parts, i had originally got my stuff for my landmax project, but figured i would use my inferno as the prototype since i want to make the whole thing (chassis included) out of fiber...figure if i can't break it in a buggy, it will never break in the landmax ehehe

go1d1e

08-31-2002, 06:59 PM

OK, here are the available parts..

first, the inferno.
http://firestorm.tilehill.ac.uk/~gold/pics/inferno/cf1.gif

MP5
http://firestorm.tilehill.ac.uk/~gold/pics/inferno/cf2.gif

MP7.5
http://firestorm.tilehill.ac.uk/~gold/pics/inferno/cf3.gif

Landmax!
http://firestorm.tilehill.ac.uk/~gold/pics/inferno/cf4.gif

sorry for all the big pics..

go1d1e

08-31-2002, 07:01 PM

Ahha! i see.. i thought it was an adjusting thig.. works well.. maybe i should loosen it up a lil then :)

Unobjectionable

08-31-2002, 07:48 PM

eheheh

ok so spill the beans, who makes this stuff, how much does he charge, and how does an englishman wind up in missouri?

go1d1e

08-31-2002, 09:35 PM

ok, didn`t fit in here very well.. so here is a rough list..

I`m still unsure how the material types work.. but I will try and find out..

Price list sorta thing (http://firestorm.tilehill.ac.uk/~gold/temp/inferno-cf.txt)

As for me ending up in missouri.. It was for the girl of course!

Rich

Unobjectionable

08-31-2002, 09:40 PM

ahhhhh now it all makes sense...ehehe

there is a little legend at the bottom of the list with the material types

go1d1e

08-31-2002, 09:49 PM

yea, but then you have some items with two choices?

Chassis sides (pair) A / F

which is it? one or the other? or both?

these are things i have to find out yet. Surely if it wsnt fully fledged CF and had some glass fibre in it.. then it would be cheaper right?

Hey.. you have MSN mssngr? Lets chat on there, if you want! smithrg@missouri.edu

Rich

Unobjectionable

08-31-2002, 10:00 PM

one or the other i guess...the more fiberglass in it, the more flexible it would be, generally speaking...(cheaper too though yes)

no MSN, but i sent you an email

turboburns

09-01-2002, 12:10 AM

I just did something kind of interestng that I thought I would share with ya'll. I have read that the MP 7.5 Kanai comes with the different alum. hinge pin holders for the front of the rear diff that has the holes in different spots to adjust the so called anti squat. I was playing around with the idea on my Inferno and noticed that if you turn the toe in hinge pin bar in the back of the rear diff over it will move the holes closer to the chassis changing the angle of the lower a arms like the anit squat on the Kanai editions. After turning mine over I did have to adjust the travel stop screws in the lower a arms. I plan to do some test running tomorrow to see if it actually works and I'll let ya'll know. And more than likely tomorrow I am changing my name too since I don't have a turbo burns after all.

turboburns

09-01-2002, 06:47 PM

Well I tried it out and seems to work pretty good.

Unobjectionable

09-02-2002, 12:03 AM

cool, thats one i hadn't thought of...keep in mind you can also adjust the rear toe-in to 0,1 and 2 degrees with the blocks...if those blocks didn't come with your car, you can buy them separately in the BS-109 plastic parts set...

that would be another cool custom part, something similar to the fioroni pieces for the later buggies, with 0-3 degrees of toe in one mount, with adjustable anti-squat by flipping it! ehehe

turboburns

09-02-2002, 11:20 AM

I have 0 to 2 degree toe in blocks with my buggy. And I have tried all of them but my buggy spins so much already that it really dont matter which one I use. But I am running the 2 degree. I ran it some more last night and had alot of trouble with the engine though. I think the fuel caused the problem but not real sure yet. But after about 5 or 6 laps the engine would sound like it was staining when I would try to accelerate, almost like a bog. If I let is et and idle for a few seconds it would run good for about a minute then do it again. The engine was getting really hot but I was running it pig rich. I tried leaning and richening the high end and low end needles to fix the problem with no cure. So all i can figure is that the Blue Thunder race blend fuel is no good. If ya'll have any suggestions please share them with me.

go1d1e

09-02-2002, 03:32 PM

Sounds like it was running len.. starving it of fuel?

I run a OS RG, with trinity monster 20% fuel.. works good so far..

turboburns

09-02-2002, 07:38 PM

Well I changed the carb and glow plug then switched to Trinity monster power 20% and it started running better. I do know that the Ofna Force P8 engine is a powerful engine but it does loose compression real fast. After about a gallon and a half of full I have hardly any compression left. Until last night when I had engine trouble it never got over 220 degrees. So as soon as I get my money straight I'll be getting a new engine. Do ya'll have any suggestions on a good engine for racing that has a long life also?

Unobjectionable

09-04-2002, 11:00 AM

there are a lot of really good engines out there, but if you have the money, i understand the RB WS7 is incredibly durable (heard many reports of engines with 10+ gallons through still going strong) and has more than enough power for just about anybody...little lower on the scale would be any 3 or 5 port nova or the ofna/picco "comp" (6 port), you can sometimes find some great deals on any of these

go1d1e

09-04-2002, 05:21 PM

OS RG... :)

unless you want a little extra, for a whole bunch of money :p

Unobjectionable

09-06-2002, 01:37 PM

he said "racing engine" not "overpriced sport engine with inferior bearings that cause the crank to snap after a couple gallons of fuel"

(ouch! ahah)

the new 8 port hypers can be had for a mere $120 from ultimate hobbies now, i would go for one of those over an RG...

go1d1e

09-06-2002, 07:57 PM

well I guess we will see huh? I have almost a gallon on mine now, and i`m more than happy with it :)

plenty of power for me and my lil old DX

trickedoutGT

09-09-2002, 11:34 PM

hi guys! ive been wanteing to get a buggy fir a long time. im still deciding on whether to get a inferno mp 7.5 or a ofna 9.5 pro. im thinking the 9.5 is weaker cuz it has graphite stuff. the 9.5 comes with moe stuff though. i reason why i picked the 7.5 also is that there are a lot of parts for it and it is very popular. i am also deciding on what engine to get too. i want a strong pull start engine too. either a ofna .25 big block or a ofna hyper 8 port. are there any other good pullstart engines? sorry im sounding like such a n00b. thanks for all you help!

wildcat1971

09-11-2002, 11:54 AM

Dude, I just got into 8th scale racing. So I will tell you what I found. I hear the 9.5 is a piece of junk and the hyper 7 from ofna is better. I bought a 7.5, and next time I will get the kanai, cause the kit needs $100 in parts right out of the box. For a motor. I bought an OZ RG (they make a pull start in it too), and its ways faster than I need. that 1.9 hp motor hauls butt. I have been racing for several years and set the track record and whipped the local guys with 2.4 and 3 hp motors. So the motor wont hold you back. Plus its on a $129 motor. $179 for the pullstart. ANyway, thats my 2 cents.

wildcat1971

09-11-2002, 11:55 AM

Anyone have a good setup for the 7.5 standard edition. I have been told to get the blue spings and stick with the kit setup. Any thoughts. The car is plent fast on my local track, but I will be traveling soon to other tracks.

go1d1e

09-11-2002, 01:40 PM

oh?! what?! another person who likes the RG?

never :p

(Good choice in my opinion)

And as far as racing choices.. I`ve had my antique Infern oDX for many many years.. and its never let me down in a major way.. Only EVER broke one Lower suspension arm..

So Kyosho makes a good product.. And I`ll stick with them for ever..

turboburns

09-12-2002, 01:56 AM

I have 2 engines that I am looking at currently by RB Concepts, the WS7 and the C5. Anyone got any time spent with these engines? I am planning to purchace a MP 7.5 sometime early next year too. I dont plan to retire the Inferno just give it an easier life since parts are hard for me to get.

Unobjectionable

09-12-2002, 02:40 AM

i think everybody is scared of the C5...unless you are running some huge high-speed "euro-style" track, the WS7 is probably still more than enough for anybody...cheaper too, although neither is exactly the easiest thing in the world to find in stock at the moment

you guys do know there are a few 7.5 "forums" in this folder right? those fellers would probably be more help with setup tips etc. as this is the original inferno one, circa 1991

and please, no more of this RG talk...it is a proven fact that OS engines cause cancer in laboratory mice and the RG is rated 1.7hp, which is only enough for old ladies and them there english people that talk funny...they also need weirdo flywheels and manifolds, which is enough to make me hate them by itself

so there!

wildcat1971

09-12-2002, 04:55 PM

LOL, I bet I can whip you with my RG. Everyone knows, that the a faster motor almost always makes you slower. Cause, 99% of the people over drive the car with one. And its 1.9 HP not 1.7. If you wanna dog the motor, pick something besides speed, cause it only shows that your a newbie. :D

Pr0k

09-12-2002, 05:15 PM

He is defenitely is no newbie just has a thing against OS for some reason. I have an rgb in my mp6 and it is fine, though I am just a basher. Hell the GS21 is fast enough for me ehehehe!

Unobjectionable

09-13-2002, 02:26 AM

i guess nobody noticed i was kidding with g0ldie

you are correct, the RG is rated 1.9hp, my mistake and i offer my deepest and most sincere apologies to you and the missing .2hp

for club level racing on a small to medium track, the RG is plenty, as are any number of other motors which cost less and will last longer...when you are looking at the cost of replacing the RG's crank, rod, rear bearing, piston and sleeve you will see what i mean...

go1d1e

09-14-2002, 01:28 AM

Well I`m gonna keep it up with the RG, until it breaks.. then i`ll hide and never admit to it..

so ner..

Unobjectionable

09-14-2002, 10:03 AM

hahah

thats just it though really, any sub-$150 dollar engine is going to be more or less disposable if it needs more than a piston and sleeve when it's time to rebuild...and the OS are known for getting too much play in the rear bearing and letting the crank rattle around, which will eventually snap it and cause all kinda havoc inside there...just keep an eye on it and replace it if necessary, it's like a $15 part

go1d1e

10-08-2002, 10:19 AM

Ok, so where do I stick the 6mm o-rings for my diffs on the DX to take oil?

I`m pretty sure I could find out when I take it apart, but i`d like to know before I do strip them down :p

Thanks
Rich

Unobjectionable

10-09-2002, 05:59 PM

settle for a crappy hand drawn picture?

http://***********/gp20/misc/diff-fig2.gif

part number for the o-rings is KYOC3309/BSW-63

important note: if you use silicone to seal the diff case to the ring gear, prop the diff up so that the silicone oil will not touch the silicone sealant until it is cured, otherwise it turns to spooge and won't work...

go1d1e

10-09-2002, 08:51 PM

Is it necesary to seal it?

Unobjectionable

10-11-2002, 04:40 PM

it will leak out otherwise...

i finally got around to tearing down that used turbo inferno i bought off ebay...the guy had actually siliconed the bulkheads to the chassis to try and keep the oil in the diffs...haha

ugman

10-22-2002, 08:31 AM

This is my first post on the forum so I'll try to make it a good one. I have an Inferno 7.5 Sport but want to do some racing with it. I know the rear and front diff's have aluminum gears. Can I use kanai edition, or regular 7.5 front and rear diffs for this?

Thanks for the help guys!!

Unobjectionable

10-22-2002, 02:34 PM

yep, the regular 7.5 and both kanais all use the same steel ring and pinion...on the 7.5 this is IF21 (pinion gear) and IF106 (ring gear)...you will need 2 of each

wildcat1971

10-26-2002, 08:48 AM

Has anyone tried any of the team bluestar stuff. If so, what did you think of it. I am refering to the chassis and shock tower in particular.

Unobjectionable

10-26-2002, 02:18 PM

well, this is the old inferno thread (pre MP-5) so i doubt too many people in this one have used the blue star stuff...BUT, i do hear their 7.5 chassis is pretty decent (especially for the price) but the shock towers and torque rods should be avoided as they are made of plain jane 6061 aluminum, and don't hold up as well as the stock kyosho ones, or quality aftermarket ones like those made by jt racing or racers edge etc

wildcat1971

10-26-2002, 07:53 PM

Too late, I ordered the chassis and shock towers. I guess I will have to try and not wreck.

whatever

10-29-2002, 11:37 PM

what model did the th einferno start coming with countersunk holes in the chassis.a friend of mine has a very "old looking"inferno and he says it is a mp5,but the chassis has countersunk holes.i thought this was only on the "newer"models.:confused:

go1d1e

10-30-2002, 11:30 AM

I have counter sunk chasis on my DX..

Also have a non CS chasis too though.. Might just be an earlier version, or maybe I have a later version on the DX now.. who knows

Unobjectionable

11-05-2002, 02:47 PM

kyosho has always done stuff the same way...with the buggies, there is always a cheapo version (DX, Sports), a normal version, and a hopped up version (Turbo, Kanai)...

the normal and hopped up ones usually include the countersunk chassis and other goodies...the cheapo ones (and cars based on the cheapo ones) get the non-countersunk (and thinner) chassis

munim

12-09-2002, 07:53 PM

I am having a hard time here.I just got a deal on an MP-6.It was a steal at $150 with servos, clutch setup, extra wing/wheels/tires, and Super Teflon shocks.Should I keep this car or get the old inferno's?I am asking this because Kyosho has(most likely) stopped making parts for the MP-6 but still makes parts for the NItro Crusher.What buggy uses the NItro crusher chassis anyways?thanks,Munim.

Bottomless Pit

12-09-2002, 08:04 PM

Kyosho might have quit making parts for the MP 6 but Towers still sells parts. I have an Inferno and a MP 6 international and can get parts for both from them fairly easy.

munim

12-09-2002, 08:12 PM

I know but how long will all the parts last?Also, what buggy shares the parts with the Nitro Crusher?

hdcchrome

01-12-2003, 02:48 PM

Anyone still need this??? I have it scanned now.

quadperson

01-16-2003, 04:01 PM

Well, after perusing this forum for two days, I think I know what I have now...it's either a Burns or a Turbo Burns, stout as h3ll! This is a sturdy car. I am trying to save up for something a little more modern, so if anyone is interested, I would probably part with it. I have pics also.

go1d1e

01-16-2003, 08:21 PM

Lets see the pics!

theres people on here that can tell you what year it was made, in what factory, and which person stuck it all in a box and wrapped it up..

quadperson

01-16-2003, 09:05 PM

Wellll, I was told in another thread that it looks likes it's been in a train wreck, but hey, it's old. And dirty. And in need of a paint job. And, well you get the picture. Well, apparently I can't post duplicate pics, but it is in a thread entitled "help me identify this buggy." Also, if someone would give me their email address, I would send some pics. Thanks

go1d1e

01-16-2003, 09:46 PM

http://www.radiocontrolzone.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=861476

Yup, looks like a burns to me :)

Kyosho had a way to make those things unbreakable..

hdcchrome

01-17-2003, 12:29 PM

that is in BAD shape. Looks like a burns to me. I have 5 of them and they are built like a tank!!!!

Want the manual????? I scanned the whole thing 24 pages. 10 bucks gets it on CD-ROM and shipped to ya.

OR try this link for low res pictures you may try to use. Email me for the password.

Visit my online photo album called: "Turbo Burns Manual"

http://www.PictureTrail.com/gid1573506

dave56bug

03-28-2003, 06:57 PM

Hi there, I just won a Turbo Inferno on Ebay, and was wondering a few things, I noticed that they dont have side gravel guards like the modern buggies, do any fit? Would the LandMax sidewguards fit under the body?

Do any parts from newer buggies fit? or are they easily modified to fit?

For example if i were to buy the MP5 long wheelbase conversion, would i be able to make that work? I dont mind drilling a couple holes, but nothing major.

Are the Duratrax disk brake upgrade, and rear brace upgrade worth while?

Um, Any modern buggy bodies fit fairly well? The shocks on the Inferno are on the other side of the tower so that might interfere a bit with fitting....

Dave

HyperActive

04-01-2003, 10:03 PM

I have a Kyosho Inferno MP-7.5 Sport/GS .21R
Im trying to find the setting for the low speed needle.
Kyosho has the following listed for thier engine.

Do you know what they mean by the shoulder of the needle??

Carb. settings:
High Speed: 2-1/2 Turns out from closed
Low Speed: Shoulder of needle will be flush to the inside of the barrel of carb.

go1d1e

05-25-2003, 10:16 PM

Anyone need a bunch of spares? or another rolling chasis from an Inferno DX?

http://firestorm.tilehill.ac.uk/~gold/pics/inferno/inferno8.JPG

and there is a rolling chasis aswell as all those spares..

let me know :)

pyroboy

06-03-2003, 04:25 PM

Do any of you guys have any info on the inferno burns as i am trying to rebuild and upgrade any info welcome Thanks

go1d1e

06-03-2003, 04:28 PM

Well, what info do you need? a manual? what?

pyroboy

06-04-2003, 09:00 AM

Manual will be ideal if you have one willing to pay if needs be let me know Thanks.

H-Trainer

04-14-2004, 03:33 PM

Hi guys,

I've just found this thread with a Google search and flicked through the pages. BTW, I've got a Turbo Inferno as well and my webpage is #1 in google: http://www.H-Trainer.ch.vu/hp_buggy_e.html

Here's my short story about modifying:

Last Saturday, I worked until six in the morning (Sunday) to run my buggy in the gravel pit.

First problem was a broken hinge pin mount (8 mm plastic):

http://www.twf8.ws/tom/Bilder/Buggy%20Bulkhead%20kaputt.jpg

You know what's the funny thing about that? I believe that I broke that part at the beginning of the last bashing day. But I didn't notice and drove with it about three hours The hinge pin was bent and the suspension had "some" play, but that didn't stop my 1/8 buggy :)

After careful consideration and wrenching, the problem was (temporarely) solved:

http://www.twf8.ws/tom/Bilder/Buggy%20Bulkhead%20repariert.jpg

Then, I wanted/needed to improve the buggy in strength and functionality.
I made some 3 mm GPR parts to replace the 2 mm aluminum:

http://www.twf8.ws/tom/Bilder/Buggy%20GFK-Teile.jpg

Another broken part was the rear torque rod, 3.5 mm steel bent. I made 4 mm rods out of German silver (nickel silver) to replace them:

http://www.twf8.ws/tom/Bilder/Verstrebungen.jpg

I combined these parts and got the stiffest (buggy) chassis construction I have ever seen:

http://www.twf8.ws/tom/Bilder/Buggy%20Verstrebungen%20seite.jpg

Next part to be modified was the radio tray. With self-made aluminum posts, I lowered the servos to 27 mm and the battery pack to 20 mm (stock is 30 mm for both). This of course lowers the center of gravity (more than laid down servos, I bet) and allows me to change the battery pack easily.
No, I didn't put the Hitec servos back in, but two Futaba s9402 instead :) While I was on it, I mounted a steel antenna and fixed the wing with some GPR and screws.

http://www.stud.alte-kanti-aarau.ch/~webth00f//buggyradio04.jpg

Here's the entire car:

http://www.stud.alte-kanti-aarau.ch/~webth00f//buggyoben04.jpg

- - - - -

All parts have been holding up fine. However, this buggy is more than ten years old, which means that pretty much everything is worn, especially threads, ball bearings and suspension mounts.
Now after the bashing day, the cluch and rear differential are messed up.

Long story short, it's a pain to keep running. I might look into considering getting in the process of getting rid of it and get a TAG. I really enjoy modifying, but I dislike repairs and maintenance just as much.

Here with Blazer SST tyres:

http://www.stud.alte-kanti-aarau.ch/~webth00f//buggyblazer04.jpg

More pictures in my website's gallery section.

BOOCAKE

04-14-2004, 09:58 PM

nice job on the parts, very well thought out!

Marsh23

04-24-2004, 10:29 PM

Sup fellow Inferno owners, Need some help for a fellow friend, Just got into 1/8 and got him self an DXII, I have printed out the parts list from kysoho, but realy need a good scan or someplace to get the Exploded view of it, so we know what is what, Thanks.

rmd

06-22-2004, 01:45 PM

I just got back into the hobby after losing interest in 96. I have never raced, just played around. I've got a Turbo Inferno with a Paris-Picco P5 that I take out for a spin once in awhile. The engine is awesome and still puts out great power, too bad Ron Paris passed away because he really knew what he was doing. I picked up the chassis & body from a local canadian racer back then. At one time I threw in a 2 speed tranny and had a blast but stripped the plastic gears and went back to the original. I also have a Inferno DX that I converted to on-road with the esprit kit and put in the 2 speed tranny with new gears. I didn't like it so I converted the DX back to off-road with a rebuilt an OS RXB and sold it to my roommate. He fried the motor then sold it back to me for pennies. The DX car is now just a pile of parts in various boxes but the Turbo only needs a screw for front end and it's ready to go. I'll post a few pics when I get a chance.

rmd

06-22-2004, 03:32 PM

here are a pics of the turbo inferno:

http://us.f2.yahoofs.com/users/40d87dab_dfbe/bc/49d0/__sr_/b311.jpg?phaiI2ABnjrpoiss

http://us.f2.yahoofs.com/users/40d87dab_dfbe/bc/49d0/__sr_/f2c1.jpg?phaiI2ABnItKbIC3

H-Trainer

06-30-2004, 02:45 PM

rmd

07-02-2004, 08:08 PM

Can somebody here tell me with which cars the Turbo Inferno is compatible? Say, can Turbo Inferno parts be used on the Inferno, the Inferno DX or the Inferno DX II or some other buggy?

PS: The links above don't work for me.

You can look at the online parts listings and determine exactly which parts are different.

http://www.kyosho.com/parts/xr3290h.html DX
http://www.kyosho.com/parts/xr31552h.html DX II
http://www.kyosho.com/parts/xr31346.html Turbo

rmd

07-02-2004, 08:10 PM

[QUOTE=rmd]here are a pics of the turbo inferno:

For some reason the yahoo links don't work. I'll try as an attachment.

Tucker01

08-03-2004, 08:29 PM

Hi all, just found this forum, great stuff.

Nice car rmd.

I have a Turbo Inferno I'm finishing off at present. Duratrax front and rear chassis braces, MP6 brake upgrade, MP5/6 radio box, ballraced servo saver, upside down rear lower 2 degree toe-in suspension mount (gives some rear kickup), MP7.5 side guards, MP7.5 bodyshell, Kyosho blue springs.

I'm running a Kyosho GX21 at present (which I obviously had to mod the chassis for) with an O.S. pipe.

I might fit 17mm wheel adapters, but I have a good supply of 19mm wheels/tyres at present.

I love my Turbo Inferno, great fun, probably more fun than my Kania 3 (I daren't get the Kanai 3 dirty!).

I'll post some pics later.

Incidentally, Tower Hobbies have been my major source of parts, they seem to have just about everything.

Can somebody here tell me with which cars the Turbo Inferno is compatible? Say, can Turbo Inferno parts be used on the Inferno, the Inferno DX or the Inferno DX II or some other buggy?

The Inferno/Inferno DX/Turbo Inferno/Inferno DXII are all one family and parts are interchangeable. Avoid the DX's though if possible as these were the budget/beginer cars and they have aluminium main diff bevel gears (expensive to upgrade), thin non-countersunk chassis (countersunk chassis no longer available), plastic main gear (you need a centre diff upgrade to fit the metal gear), only two planetary gears (as opposed to four) in each diff, and the diffs aren't 'o' ring sealed.

I wouldn't take the Kyosho online parts lists as gospel, I have spotted some errors in them e.g they have the MP6 International down as using Turbo Shocks (BSW72/73?), whereas it actually had Teflon coated shocks (IFW40/41?).

By the way, Goldie is absolutely correct, the middle diff is adjustable to account for different running conditons. According to the manual, loose for the loose stuff, and locked where traction is very good.

Just to finish off, I'm looking for good condition original Inferno 7-spoke wheels in yellow (I only really need one, but I'll take more), and the original clear vacformed wing again in good condition (already painted considered).

Thanks.

brettl

02-22-2005, 06:22 PM

This is a little bit out of the box… But speaking of old Kyosho’s, I have a Burns that I purchased in 1987 with an OPS Buggy Pro engine - it still rips! Nothing ever breaks – it just wears parts out and I replace them (Nitro Crusher Parts). Last weekend I was ripping up a field with it!

When I bought the Burns I seem to remember I paid over $500 for it. A lot of money! My wife gave me a hard look (back then) when I kicked out the dough. Last weekend she was out with me kicking up dust – she said “That’s probably the best money you ever spent, you really got your fun out of it”.

The old cars are amazing! Now my eight year old son is enjoying it. :D

I've had my USA-1 since it came out and all I've ever replaced are counter gears and a few spur gears. Actually,I did replace the chassis once after a full-throtle tether-pole collision. But I remember bending it back to shape over my knee that day and popping the braces back on and firing the RF-B back up. It was weaks though before I actually replace that chassis. You sure brought back memories of the durability of this truck(which is based on the Burns.) I still rip around construction sights with it and have one kit NIB and another built and waiting for its first run. Long live the Burns and its decendants.

Flyboy_____

03-07-2005, 04:32 PM

:D I've converted the turbo inferno to some lattest goodies:
7.5 radio box
7.5 servo alluminium mounting poles
Rear suspension to the back of the pole
7.5 Rear wheel hub
7.5 Rear arm
New 17mm wheel older
protective plastic laterals to chassis
7.5 Body
AND MUCH MORE..

Check out the pictures!!

Flyboy_____

03-07-2005, 04:37 PM

This is a detail of the chassis of the modified Turbo Inferno

Flyboy_____

03-07-2005, 04:44 PM

Here more pictures.

Bmr4life

04-05-2005, 02:20 AM

Is there a 2 speed transmission for the Turbo Inferno? I just got a used one off ebay and would love to put a 2 speed in it. thanks

Flyboy_____

04-05-2005, 02:58 PM

Is there a 2 speed transmission for the Turbo Inferno? I just got a used one off ebay and would love to put a 2 speed in it. thanks

Well.. I didn't put 2 speed... the car is running fine ... really fine.. the Picco is a great engine.

Good luck and keep us posted

dburns

04-12-2005, 10:58 AM

This is a little bit out of the box… But speaking of old Kyosho’s, I have a Burns that I purchased in 1987 with an OPS Buggy Pro engine - it still rips! Nothing ever breaks – it just wears parts out and I replace them (Nitro Crusher Parts). Last weekend I was ripping up a field with it!

When I bought the Burns I seem to remember I paid over $500 for it. A lot of money! My wife gave me a hard look (back then) when I kicked out the dough. Last weekend she was out with me kicking up dust – she said “That’s probably the best money you ever spent, you really got your fun out of it”.

The old cars are amazing! Now my eight year old son is enjoying it. :D

I bought a Burns 4wd back in 89 used it only a few times and put it away, Now 15 yrs later I have pulled it back out and wat to get back into nitro. I am worried that if I start running this car and break it I won't be able to find parts for this car. Checked on the internet and this is the first place I have seen that someone knows about this car. A few questions do you have a manual, where or what fits this car, tires, ...??? any help is appreciated TX D.B.
P.S I just bought a new reciever and plan on leting it ripppp..
"nothing like the smell of nitro in the morning"
visit [URL=http://www.burns62.com/radio_control_cars/dons_radio_controled_rc_car_page.htm] to see pic's of the car

dburns

04-12-2005, 11:02 AM

It might not be that your engine is that hot. Try borrowing at least two temp guns from some people at a track/hobby shop to compair. Some MIP Temp guages are way out of calibration, assuming your using one. ;)

[ 08-01-2001: Message edited by: vetrider ]

boil a big pot of water, you know that is 212 degrees

ooausty

04-24-2005, 10:56 PM

Hello... I am new to this forum and to the RC world. I used to have electric type RC cars when I was younger but I have always wanted a gas powered car. Yesterday I found an Inferno DX 4WD on sale for $100. It is brand new but missing the instruction manual and the body/rear fin.
1.) Does anybody have an electronic version of the instruction manual that they could email to me?
2.) Does anybody have an Inferno DX body and rear fin or something that will fit the chassis..... I just want to protect the components.

Any feedback would be great.... I`m excited to get into this hobby.
I bought the Inferno and the equipment necessary to start it up.

b16crxturbo

05-07-2005, 12:34 PM

I recently bought back an old car of mine. I think it is a Turbo Inferno. I know it is an Inferno, although, not sure which model exactly. From what I remember it has a Carbon chassis, radio tray, and front brace. It has twin discs, universals up front and an O.S. RX-B I think. I will post pics of it in the next few days.

I am kind of scared of breaking the suspension since I don't know if I can get new parts for it.

Can I put fluid in all of the diffs? I drove it a little and they unload WAY too easy causing all the power to go to 1 of the front wheels.

Malph46

07-14-2005, 06:40 AM

can anyone upload a picture of the turbo inferno
it's a long time ago that a saw one of these :cool:

check our site many movies (http://communities.zeelandnet.nl/data/breskenscoastracers/)

Malph46

07-15-2005, 06:46 AM

can anyone upload a picture of the turbo inferno
it's a long time ago that a saw one of these :cool:

check out our website many movies (http://communities.zeelandnet.nl/data/breskenscoastracers/)

this is my old inferno dx
this was the biginning of inferno addiction

Malph46

07-15-2005, 06:49 AM

i know about inferno since 1997

hdcchrome

09-05-2005, 02:53 AM

Gladd to see people are keeping the vintage alive!

Here is a picture of some of my new in box collection.

marwankw

09-28-2005, 03:22 PM

Wanted to share the phot of my Inferno 4WD the Classic version. (its my first contribution I hope you can see the photo)

A Main Racer

09-30-2005, 12:31 AM

I remember back in 90 when I was racing dirt oval. Those burns and turbo burns were always cool. I never thought i would grow up and be racing 1/8 scale offroad. Ahh the memories. Thanks for those pics they really took me back.

hdcchrome

10-03-2005, 10:34 AM

Wanted to share the phot of my Inferno 4WD the Classic version. (its my first contribution I hope you can see the photo)

I like!!!!! Very cool!

hdcchrome

12-18-2005, 08:23 AM

marwankw, do you run the Inferno or is it a shelf queen?

marwankw

12-19-2005, 08:46 AM

marwankw, do you run the Inferno or is it a shelf queen?

It is a shelf queen, you can see my collection in:

http://www.rcuniverse.com/community/profile.cfm?section=models&memid=80784

hdcchrome

12-19-2005, 06:07 PM

It is a shelf queen, you can see my collection in:

http://www.rcuniverse.com/community/profile.cfm?section=models&memid=80784

NICE to meet another follower of Kyosho. Did you check, out my collection?

marwankw

03-19-2006, 09:25 AM

I purchased this Turbo Inferno in 1994 as an in complete kit, missing body, wheels, wing, wing mount, fuel tank, and kept it as a spare for my classic INFERNO 4WD (posted in this thread) since early 2005 I decided to complete it, and assemble it, I just finished, have a look guys

hdcchrome

03-19-2006, 09:41 AM

Nice job!!!!

marwankw

03-19-2006, 10:35 AM

thanks for your compliments, I saw your collection, its cool, are the burns and turbo burns boxes full? i mean kit?

marwankw

04-03-2006, 06:16 AM

Now it is 100% race ready Turbo Inferno :cool:

legend123

04-10-2006, 10:45 PM

This is what I'm looking for. A bunch of guys that run old buggies. I run an old TTR Mirage, and still love to bash it. Unbreakable comes to mind, but nothing really is. What I would love to find out from you is about my buddies old Inferno DX. Radio failed last week and smacked a brick wall, literally. Broke the front A arm, and we have looked everywhere for a replacement. Any ideas what else will fit from the newer buggies, or maybe someone has old parts laying around they would part with. He hates to lose running the old gal, even though he has a new SP2 now.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Steve

hdcchrome

04-10-2006, 11:24 PM

Man, I should have anything you need for a Kyosho oldie.

Do you have the:

Burns
Burns DX
Turbo Burns

Let me know, I have 10 or so parted out !

hdcchrome

04-10-2006, 11:26 PM

thanks for your compliments, I saw your collection, its cool, are the burns and turbo burns boxes full? i mean kit?

Sorry about the late reply, but yes the BURN, BURNS DX, and TURBO BURNS are all new complete vintage original kits!!!

legend123

04-11-2006, 07:46 AM

hdcchrome

04-11-2006, 10:50 AM

hdcchrome, AWESOME! It is a DX, and we could use an upper turnbuckle as well. all together the left side front, A arm and camber and steering link would be great if you have them. Let me know. My email is stevelc123@midwestwisp.net

Steve

Hey Steve, I am extremely busy this week, but I will try my darndest to help you out. I will shoot you an email also.

legend123

04-11-2006, 12:12 PM

Thanks so much. No hurry really. Just wanted to help find the parts for him as he spends much of his time traveling on business. Let me know when you have the time. :cool:

Steve

Domb1972

04-30-2006, 07:55 AM

Hi Yall,

I am new to the fourm but was hoping all could help me out . I use to race back in the late 80's and early 90's. I got out at the biginning of the GAS rage. So limited experiece with gas. But I was lucky enough to buy a collection of RC cars from a nice guy. I got a Vintage Kyosho Inferno . This thing is BULLET PROOF ALL ALUMINUM!! I also got a Picco 21 engine which was built by Ron Paris it is engraved in the block RON PARIS and on the other side it has COMP. Only thing I found out about it is Mr. Paris passed away a few years ago, The web site is closed down No archives at all on line any where. So any info on this engine would be apprecieated so I can cross reference parts.

I was hoping yall could tell me who makes a bodie to fit it I found a Pro Line wing kit but the bodies are all for the new mp buggies. Not looking for the original it would be great but an after market will work also as long as it fits and looks good. Also What parts are crossed over?nothing is broke but who makes after market parts or does the mp parts fit it? I plan on fixing it and running it the motor is out of it now and turns over but dont know if it runs or not can I buy a new sleeve piston,bearings still? where? I did find a manual on line and printed it out so working on it should be easy enough. Also the last question I want a new radio and a safty device to kill the engine if the radio goes out what servos do I need for the steering (best, middle) Sorry for all the questions but I have been on line for hours doing research and the answers I cant find em.

Thanks Dom

marwankw

04-30-2006, 09:33 AM

Hi,

See post #177 & 178 & 179 in this thread page 8

they answer some of your questions

hdcchrome

04-30-2006, 05:40 PM

Hi, I thought I would ad my .2 cents. Linda Paris, his widow, still sells some of the left over inventor on ebay. No engines left, but many parts to rebuild it. I have one of the same engines if you want to buy it. I also have the same buggy! Good luck

hdcchrome

04-30-2006, 05:46 PM

Domb1972

04-30-2006, 10:37 PM

marwankw

05-01-2006, 04:08 AM

Does anyone know the exact release order of all the old Kyosho buggies after the Landjump? I see in the thread this information, but again I am looking for the exact liniage from the Landjump on..

This is what I know...

Landjump 1st edition
Landjump 2nd edition
Vanning
Burns
Burns DX
Turbo Burns
Inferno
Turbo Inferno
InfernoST
Inferno DX
Inferno DXII
Inferno MP5
Inferno MP5 Long Wheelbase (option)
Inferno MP6
Inferno MP6 Sports
Inferno MP6 International

LET ME KNOW IF THIS IS CORRECT, THANKS SO MUCH!!

I think it is like this:

1- Landjump 4D
2- Landjump Integra
3- Vanning / Presto
4- Burns 4WD
5- Turbo Burns
(Actually a DX version of Turbo Burns was also released in very limited quantities called Prestige 4WD, see the attached photo, I have Video for it also)
6- Burns DX 2WD
7- Burns DX 4WD
8- Inferno 4WD
9- Inferno DX (with black plastic shocks)
10- Turbo Inferno
11- Inferno ST
12- Inferno MP5
13- Inferno DX-II 1/8 4WD w/GS21R
14- Inferno DX-II 1/8 4WD
15- Inferno MP-5 Evolution Limited (US version kit No.31664)
16- Inferno MP-5 Evolution II (Asia and Europe version kit no. 31781, with even more option than the 31664 see attached photo)
17- Inferno MP6
18- Inferno MP6 International
19- Inferno MP6 Sports

I don't consider the "MP5 Long Wheelbase Conversion" as a buggy; also I didn't include other 1:08 2WD buggies like the Circuit 20 series (Rowdy Baja, Racing Baja, Baja Body, Datsun Fairlady...) and the Circuit 2000 series (Impacta baja and Mint Las Vegas)

By the way is the classic Inferno 4WD a Vintage buggy now? (The white and blue painted on its box) how much would an NIB worth now?

marwankw

05-01-2006, 05:53 AM

Hey FlyBoy I just picked up a Kyosho MP 7.5 body it looks like it will fit , Did you have to make any modification other then cutting it out on the lines? I would like to get started on painting it but if mods are necassary then would like to hear back from you first. I see a blue plate on the front does that have somthing to do with how thw body fits? I would aprecieate the help and by the way NICE RIDE!

Thanks Dom

According to what he said, and what I see, you must mount the rear shocks on the back of the rear shocks tower, not as the inferno manual says, which will make room for the MP7.5 body to fit.

I suggest that you don't paint until you perfectly fit the body and made the mounting, engine, antenna, exhaust, and fuel tank holes.

Domb1972

05-02-2006, 10:42 AM

hdcchrome I was woundering if you had a Body
BS-119 Body
BS-78 Radio cover
and a shock rebuild kit for all 4 shocks

Thanks Dom

mredzadventure

05-06-2006, 11:26 PM

Domb1972

05-07-2006, 02:54 AM

I have purchased alot of part for my Inferno from this seller on e-bay he is a good source and his prices are dirt checp (compared to others) I am rebuilding my my Kyosho Inferno just took it completely apart and having every piece of Aluminum polished out (wife is office manager for a machine shop cads and all so pretty lucky) they are polishing it all lucky to buy it with all aluminum anodized A arms and hubs so it will be Anodized blue and polished, I am even tearing down my Ron Paris .21 Comp motor and doing the cases will post pics when complete.

trying to figure out if the .21 Comp they offer on the Ofena web site is the same as mine I down loaded the manual and e-mail them. It aint easy tracking down this stuff but will be worth the effort when done .

Here is the link to the Bevel Gears and check his e-bay store. Copy and Paste

http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-KYOSHO-BS-36-2-DIFFERENTIAL-BEVEL-BS36_W0QQitemZ6001539295QQcategoryZ34063QQcmdZView Item

Now I wish yall guys would help me out is this a Picco .21 Comp motor? and is there a difference between a Ron Paris .21 Comp and the one listed on ofna web site? Here are pics it is engraved on one side RON PARIS and COMP on the other . Any info on this engine is apprecitaed. Basicaly they list the manual for a PICCO .21 COMP is this the Ron Paris Engine?

Thanks Dom

marwankw

05-07-2006, 04:09 AM

I'm rebuilding a turbo burns for a friend I need front universal shafts and front and rear bevel gears.I can't find anything on ebay. My local hobby shops can't help. Are there universals that will fit that are aftermarket. Thanks

Hi,

Try ace-hobbies.com they'll order it for you, follow the below link:

http://www.acehardwarehobbies.com/2.2/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=1_2_468_30&products_id=1728

mredzadventure

05-07-2006, 03:48 PM

thanks for the info

Domb1972

05-10-2006, 05:11 PM

First I wanted to thank everyone who helped me out and answered my questions here it paid off I tore the whole car down and went thru everything cleaned it all up replaced a screw here and there. The car is complete minus engine/mounts. I bought a Proline Pleaser body and had to modifiy it to fit. I did not want to relocate my shocks so I modified the body instead, Dont look bad at all.

I painted it a trans. blue fading to a pearl white then backed it with sprint white when the sun hits it it is AWSOME!!!! It has a brand new Proline wing, Aluminum rear A-arms,Aluminum front a-arms and hubs, Complete Ball bearings though out the whole car new brakes. Ball Bearing steering which is SUPER smooth, All the Diffs are also SUPER smooth, Swing Shafts in the front, all drive lines/shafts are straight and not bent. I now will put it up for auction what should I ask for it ? Whats it worth?

Also is 245.00 a good price for a Kyosho Inferno MP 7.5? No motor and the buggy is like new. Is this an old buggy also or last years models? I want a new buggy so help me out yall what do ya think of my Inferno and me buying the Kyosho Inferno MP 7.5 without motor for $245.00?

Thanks Dom

Domb1972

05-10-2006, 05:13 PM

Well what do yall think? Not done with body got some off road decals gonna put on later.

Thanks Dom

Domb1972

05-12-2006, 08:15 AM

Here is is done

Domb1972

05-13-2006, 05:23 AM

Well the Inferno is done I found a COMPLETE with original manual Kyosho Burns in the process of tearing it down and cleaning it up I got TONS of parts even 3 sets of motor mounts YEAAAA! So my inferno just needs a new power plant I also have tons of O.S. MAX .21 VF BR parts from cranks to pistons, heads, mufflers, and like 20 carbs, complete engines even got a pretty nice body and wing (original for the burns) Guy use to race anyway looks like this thread is dieing where is everyone at? I needed the engine mounts for my Inferno and gonna clean this burns up all stock no hop ups but tons of factory parts.

I am gonna take what I need out of the lot and when I get the BURNS all cleaned up and back togeather it will be for sell I can not find one on e-bay so whats a ALL original in great condition nothing rigged or missing (even have the roll bar!) Worth ? Come on you collectors help me out. I only want to keep the inferno it turned out awsome and really only picked up this lot for the motor mounts.

Will post pics when done

Thanks Dom

marwankw

05-13-2006, 08:34 AM

Can you post a photo of the engine mount you bought, cause Burns engine is an older version which will not work for todays engines, both carry the same label number (BS-25) but different in mounting holes. If you post a photo I'll tell you if yours are OK or not.

Domb1972

05-14-2006, 04:53 PM

The motor mounts are different!!!! Ho well I still scored on the Burns almost done with it will post pics as soon as I am done with it. I have found the mounts on e-bay and if I dont win those just going to drill the extra set of Burns mounts. The fit the chassis plates just the holes are different for the engine my Picco will not line up so gonna send em over to the Machine Shop and have em drill and thread the new hole I need in each.

What would the burns be worth any idea?

Thanks Dom

marwankw

05-14-2006, 05:49 PM

it depends how clean and original it is. list it in ebay with a reserve and see.

Domb1972

05-15-2006, 06:18 AM

Finally got the Burns all done here are pics

Domb1972

05-15-2006, 06:19 AM

Looks Good

Domb1972

05-15-2006, 06:21 AM

I still need mounts for the Inferno but other then that they are both complete

Thanks Dom

mredzadventure

05-15-2006, 09:11 PM

Hey they look good MY burns must be older than those to it srill has the screw top for the fuel tank.

Domb1972

05-16-2006, 02:34 AM

I dont know anyone personally that are into these rc cars, all my buddies are Bass Tournament Anglers so its nice to hear someone apprcieate the time and effort put into re-building these cars. I am happy with them

Yes it is the original Burns it just has an updated gas tank. I have the original aluminum one and about 5 of the gas caps, but it came with the updated one and its lighter so I left it.

I just purchased a New O.S. .21 V-spec for the Inferno so it should flat out FLY with that much H.P. I keep going back and forth one minute I think I will sell both to buy a new buggy but then they are just to cool so unless the right offer comes along probably just gonna keep em and run em.

I like this 1/8th scale stuff LOL LOL :)

Thanks Dom

pleaseletmeon34

05-17-2006, 12:27 AM

I think it is like this:

1- Landjump 4D
2- Landjump Integra
3- Vanning / Presto
4- Burns 4WD
5- Turbo Burns
(Actually a DX version of Turbo Burns was also released in very limited quantities called Prestige 4WD, see the attached photo, I have Video for it also)
6- Burns DX 2WD
7- Burns DX 4WD
8- Inferno 4WD
9- Inferno DX (with black plastic shocks)
10- Turbo Inferno
11- Inferno ST
12- Inferno MP5
13- Inferno DX-II 1/8 4WD w/GS21R
14- Inferno DX-II 1/8 4WD
15- Inferno MP-5 Evolution Limited (US version kit No.31664)
16- Inferno MP-5 Evolution II (Asia and Europe version kit no. 31781, with even more option than the 31664 see attached photo)
17- Inferno MP6 (No. 31891)
18- Inferno MP6 International (No. 31892)
19- Inferno MP6 Sports (No. 31951)

I don't consider the "MP5 Long Wheelbase Conversion" as a buggy; also I didn't include other 1:08 2WD buggies like the Circuit 20 series (Rowdy Baja, Racing Baja, Baja Body, Datsun Fairlady...) and the Circuit 2000 series (Impacta baja and Mint Las Vegas)

By the way is the classic Inferno 4WD a Vintage buggy now? (The white and blue painted on its box) how much would an NIB worth now?

I was looking through the 2000 Kyosho catalog tonight and noticed a few part numbers, so I added them to your list. Hope you don't mind. :)

marwankw

05-17-2006, 02:48 AM

Finally got the Burns all done here are pics

Looks nice :)

I think this is not Burns :rolleyes: but The Turbo Burns :eek: if the chassis screws are flat head then it is sure the turbo burns.

pumpkinhead-uk

06-23-2006, 03:07 PM

Hi all, great forum here. It's good to know these old buggies are still going well.
i have a query for anyone who can help me.
I have an old 1991 Kyosho Inferno 4WD that uses 19mm hexagonal drive washers and wheel bolt to hold the wheels on.
Is it possible to convert this car to use the 17mm hex wheel hubs that are on the current Inferno’?
I tried fitting the 17mm hex wheel hubs but the pin holes of the wheel hubs and wheel shafts don’t line up.
Can I just replace the rear wheel shafts and front universal swingshafts in order to fit the 17mm hex wheel hubs?
Do you know if the K.If119 Wheel Shaft from an Inferno Mp7.5 will fit?
I would really appreciate any help here.
Many thanks.

marwankw

06-25-2006, 02:33 AM

Ace-hobbies can make 19mm to 17mm adaptor for you, contact them and see

www.acehardwarehobbies.com

also 19mm wheel might be available in ebay, the part number is BSW-80

pumpkinhead-uk

06-25-2006, 11:09 AM

hi-ya,
thank you for your help, much appriciated.

jasenrobo

06-30-2006, 06:04 AM

hi pumpkinhead-uk i have a mp6 which came out with 19mm wheel hubs. all i did was lightly filed down the back of some 7.5 hexes until they fitted 7.5 hubs have small raised piece on the back that makes them a Little to wide .that stops u from putting the pin in

pumpkinhead-uk

06-30-2006, 01:27 PM

Hi jasenrobo, thank you for your input. I have however tried that method, the problem is the wheels then bind with hubs. If I add washers to space the wheels from the hubs then there is not enough thread on the outside for the nut to hold the wheel on.
Aaarrrrgggghhhhhh!!!!!!!!!

jasenrobo

06-30-2006, 05:55 PM

no worries pumpkinhead-uk which inferno is it you have exactly i also have a burns and plane inferno here ill see if i can get them to fit on these as well are you using a grub screw to hold the hex on. they fit on my inferno i also have a set of PRP Swift/SHO buggy hexes on one that fit the inferno also I'm not using a washer in between the wheel hex and the hub

pumpkinhead-uk

06-30-2006, 06:21 PM

Hi again jasenrobo, the kit I have is the inferno 4wd (#8 on pleaseletmeon34 post). I have a burns too, I’ll see if they fit on that. Do you know if the rear wheel shafts and front universal swingshafts from an mp6 or mp777 will fit the older cars? Are the pin holes in the new shafts in the exact same position as on the old shafts?
Using the grub screws didn’t help.
Cheers for your help.

jasenrobo

06-30-2006, 07:29 PM

i just fitted them to exactly the same car works fine maybe your wheels do you have a different set of wheels you can try

jasenrobo

06-30-2006, 07:43 PM

hi again i also fitted them to my burns with no problems at all.i checked some wheel shafts between mp6 and burns the holes seem to be in about the same place mp6 ones are long from the hole to the outer end

pumpkinhead-uk

07-05-2006, 02:21 PM

Hi-ya, I tried fitting them to my burns and the same problem occurred. I think I’ll try re-drilling the hex hubs (as they’re alloy it shouldn’t be too hard – hopefully).

CorpSpy

07-13-2006, 05:41 AM

Hi,

I have an old Inferno DX. I recently got a cheap Kyosho GX-21 engine as a replacement for the GS-21. Unfortunately the diameter of the flywheel is to large, it touches the housing of the center diff and the rear brake. I checked the website of Kyosho Germany to check if there are any other flywheels compatible with the GX.Unfortunately they don't have a compatibilty chart. Does anybody know what flywheel could fit the GX? A Kyosho part-number would be nice.

Thanks,
Rainer

Crana

08-12-2006, 07:29 PM

Hmm, does anyone know how to put the carb. to defualt settings (you know, the needless things)?? Anyone know what they are? :( I think they may be set too high, but i cant test as i don't have my new engine yet and i want the settings back to default incase it f**ks up the new engine :(

Thanks for any help :)

Crana

08-15-2006, 04:12 AM

Ok, just incase anyone is looking for the same info, here it is:

High needle valve: 2 1/2 - 3 turns
Low needle [idle] valve - 0.5mm from being flush with the surface

Crana

08-17-2006, 10:09 AM

Here's some pics i just took:

http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/1399/photo0031zd0.jpg

http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/4261/photo0032vz8.jpg

Pullstart is getting replaced, so the engine isn't attched properly :p

:cool:

hdcchrome

08-18-2006, 12:05 AM

I have manuals to most all vintage kyosho buggies if anyone needs.

Landjump
Vanning
Mint
Presto
Impacta
Burns series
Inferno series

Need help???

rcguy2003

08-28-2006, 11:29 PM

i have an older 4wd kyosho buggy (unknown what model, but it is an 1/8 scale with an os gs 28 :eek: i think , its not with me right now it should be laterthis week aftermycast comes off and im legally and painfree able to drive to my lhs) my problem is it wont steer, changed the servo, and linkages
me and my lhs owner agree that the chassi has an unseeable twist,now heres where kyosho lovers andbuilders will want me as a piniata...i was breaking it in, in a wal mart super center parking lot that was almost empty, some a******* tht was watching me from his car decided to drive straight into my buggys path, the brakes failed on me, so to stop it, i ran the right side of it into the tire of my chevy s10, the front wheel cocked back pretty bad, but went right back into place, ive changed shocks, wheels, linkages,drive shafts, and servos...still wont steer, i have spotted a few 777 chassis on ebay that areclose or exact matches with the cutouts and layout, but couldit be something diffrent then a twisted chassi? :confused: because i dont want to spent $50-$100 on a chassis and be back where i started... :(

thanks,
Dennis

cenracer1

08-31-2006, 04:46 PM

I had a similar problems with my burns buggy... I had a hitech servo failure during a high speed pass in my parking lot. car made an abrupt right turn into the cobblestone edging and broke what I thought was just a shock mount... checked suspension and everything was smooth.. steering worked great so I changed out the shock mount and ran car again.. worked for about 30 seconds and I had no steering at all... checked again and everything in the steering was bound up... Had to take front end apart and turned out to be the bearing in the steering post came apart.. I don't know if you have bearings in yours, but its worth a looking at... If your chassis is tweaked, first of all it should be visible and also very repairable... I would check for the same problems that I had.. I was surprised that the bearing was the problem and it was cheap to fix... Thankfully, I didn't have to go to my collection of spares for the buggy.. It pains me to use them.. A few more parts and I will have 2...

rcguy2003

08-31-2006, 05:41 PM

Thanks Cen...after seeing the comparison in the burns buggy up top, and mine, im pretty sure mins a burns also

cenracer1

08-31-2006, 07:11 PM

let me know how it works out for you.... just a side not... hitech just called me and will replace the servo under their warranty program.. 2 years, you have to like that... I run the hs 645mg for the throttle and steering... much better than what the buggy had when new.... if your engine is around the same age as the buggy, you probably have the os gs21....only around 1 hp or so.... I'm running the hpi 21bb in mine.. A bit more power, probably around 2hp... I have run the xtm 247 pro for a bit, but its too much motor for the buggy.. it was easier to drive with the hpi.... its cool to smoke the tires to 45mph, but its not controllable.... I put that motor in my gs sut truggy...