Mini Z Forum

[Se_12alty]

yes these motors are extremely fast and some cannot be run on our mini z's. There are only two that I know you can run without frying out your board. Torque Tunned, and Atomic Tunned. Down fall to running these motors is the burshes inside them are two thin metal tabs with some grease inside. After about 1-2 weeks of running they will wear out and the motor will have no power. Solution! Take your old "Stock" motor and use the wires, and burshes inside. The old motor has actual brushes inside that allow the motor to last much longer and in my opinion go faster.

[Se_12alty]

Originally posted by Little_Horn
Wich one will be better (handling)?
Tell what u think...

I like the RM more, because we can use MR-01 bodies... ;)

if u wanna see some MR-02 RM (NSX) fotos click here (http://www.chaserrc.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=131)



I would say the RM would handle better than the MM. I currently run the MM and I really don’t like it. I’m running the MM because I want to go to the Kyosho Cup. Before I was running the MR-15. It’s basically the MR-02 front end with the MR-01 rear pod. It handles so much better with that setup. I don’t know about everyone MR-02’s, but my MR-02 rear end breaks loose sometimes. I’m running the Kyosho ball diff with very soft tires too. Didn’t have that problem with the MR-15.

Yes, if you get the RM you can still run the current MR-01 bodies.

[CarterTG]

The new F1 just arrived on Wednesday. :D Haven't had a spare second to make a first-run though. :(

I'm really digging the details on the model... side mirrors, camera-pod, wingletts on the main body. Dang shame all that realism has to be broken up with the piano-wire antenna. Anyone successfully using an internal antenna under the body?

I wasn't able to find a lot of new MiniZ F1 pics while waiting for mine, so here's a hastily snapped pic. More to follow when I have time.

[crypt]

congratulations! if you have drive a racer before, you will see how the F1 works on the track, it´s really fast, it´s another world, really congratulations

[uaerc]

Congrats.............


some of those chasis pics would be nice...... :)

cheers
aziz

[CarterTG]

Thanks guys. As promised, more pics of the new wheels with it's bigger F201 brother in back....

[CarterTG]

The Kyosho Williams has been labeled by a few sites as a FW25 body, but compared to the Tamiya FW24 behind it, I'm more inclined to think it's a FW24 too.

[CarterTG]

Front detail. Haven't added the Michelin tire decals yet. It's the rub-on transfer kind.

[CarterTG]

Cockpit detail. That helmet is about the size of a peanut. :eek:

[CarterTG]

What I'm hopin' will be Ferrari's permanent view this upcoming season. :D

[CarterTG]

Chassis pic as requested. Rear suspension is fine, but the front is binding such that it prevents smooth suspension travel. I'll try lubing the area, or worst case, replace some parts.

[CarterTG]

Electronics close-up.

[CarterTG]

1:10 scale compared to 1:28

[uaerc]

Originally posted by Se_12alty
yes these motors are extremely fast and some cannot be run on our mini z's. There are only two that I know you can run without frying out your board. Torque Tunned, and Atomic Tunned. Down fall to running these motors is the burshes inside them are two thin metal tabs with some grease inside. After about 1-2 weeks of running they will wear out and the motor will have no power. Solution! Take your old "Stock" motor and use the wires, and burshes inside. The old motor has actual brushes inside that allow the motor to last much longer and in my opinion go faster.

Hi

I just got the atomic tuned motor. now this motor doesn't have the resistors and as you said about the brushes...... well that would be too much for me to modify unless you know some site where they have clear instructions on how to do it.

Secondly.....How fast is the atomic tuned motor to the X Speed motor..... on close inspection i found out that both the X speed and the Tamiya atomic tuned motors are made at Mabuchi Motors..Shocking !! isnt it ....... lol both the competitors have got the same MOTOR Supplier !! ;)

I saw the RPM on the back of the cardboard for the TAM... motor it said 15400 RPM.

Anyone knows the RPM on the X SPEED ? ?

Cheers
Aziz

[^j!nx^]

after running a "twin turbo" my miniz seems to have a wierd glitch. Some times it stops going. It will only go in revers. A slight tap to the top of the body, or slight bump and it will work again. But its wierd because the motor still works in revers. Any ideas?

[AznJunkie]

Double check everything. Check and make sure the motor lead is good and the solder on the motor is still good.

Did the glitching problem happen before the turbo or only after the turbo?

[^j!nx^]

just about a week later. I ran fin this past week. but started to mess up today

[CarterTG]

Some close-ups of the MR-02MM Enzo Ferrari...

[CarterTG]

Sleek profile

[CarterTG]

The detail is pretty impressive. Quad-chromed tailpipes, prancing horse emblem, and even the taillights are faithfully reproduced.

[CarterTG]

The Enzo body rides on a 98mm wheelbase. Something I haven't been able to find earlier was definite proof that the MR-02 wheelbase was adjustable. Well, here it is. Two additional sets of holes for 102 and 107mm wheelbases.

[CarterTG]

OK, time to fess up, the driver's side mirror broke off. Fortunately, I had a product from Loctite Corp called "Plastix (http://www.loctiteproducts.com/products/detail.asp?catid=17&subid=40&plid=212)". The product card claims that it "Repairs any plastic: Hard & Soft Plastic, Polyethylene, Polypropylene"

It comes in two parts; a brush-on surface activator, and the tube of adhesive. I followed the instructions to the letter. The product seems to have caused some very slight chemical fusing of the two sides, but that was exactly what I was hoping for. Superglue wouldn't have penetrated. The "Plastix" repair seems just as strong as before the break, so it gets my thumbs-up. :D

[uaerc]

Originally posted by CarterTG
OK, time to fess up, the driver's side mirror broke off. Fortunately, I had a product from Loctite Corp called "Plastix (http://www.loctiteproducts.com/products/detail.asp?catid=17&subid=40&plid=212)". The product card claims that it "Repairs any plastic: Hard & Soft Plastic, Polyethylene, Polypropylene"

It comes in two parts; a brush-on surface activator, and the tube of adhesive. I followed the instructions to the letter. The product seems to have caused some very slight chemical fusing of the two sides, but that was exactly what I was hoping for. Superglue wouldn't have penetrated. The "Plastix" repair seems just as strong as before the break, so it gets my thumbs-up. :D

Hey

Congrats on the new ENZO. I ordered one aswell not yet come though. Its really a beauty !! looks great to the extreme..... Now let us all know how it drives as well earlier I had read in this forum some one talking about the new mr02 chasis doing the tail slide or slip whatever ?!! hehe
You can give us the first hand expericnceee on what it actualy is like........

cheer and safe driving

Azuz

[CarterTG]

I bought the Enzos for my younger cousins, so in terms of driving the MR-02MM chassis, I've only had a few minutes behind the wheel.

Despite that, I DID give it a whirl on two or three surfaces... commercial-grade carpeting at a restaurant, commercial-grade carpeting at a mall, and a linoleum kitchen floor.

The MR-02 chassis has a supple suspension. I thought it drove very nicely at the restaurant, a moderate amount of oversteer at the mall, and lots of oversteer on the linoleum. I had it's steering dual rate maxed out, so didn't experiment with controller settings. The stock differential was apparently working overtime... so a ball differential with some limited slip, and some tweaks to the front & rear springs ought to dial it in real nice.

The suppleness of the MiniZ suspension should react nicely to adjustments; unlike the ultra-sloppy suspension of an XMod I examined weeks ago.

Now that I found out the MR-02 has an adjustable wheelbase, it's jumped a lot higher on my own "WANT" list. So I'll try to report back on what works for dialing out the oversteer. I'd much rather have a car with too much oversteer (Mini-Z) than one with NO steering (XMod)

[uaerc]

I just put up a Atomic tuned motor with a 12 pinion gear on my overland and man this car is extremely fast on the my workshops linoleum mat. and on the mat i can actually do a wheeliee but by backing up a bit and then going full throttle.......

you guys should see how fast it goes................especially being an overland......

I just hope this motor doesnt burn out my electronics.......especially loosing 70$ electronics for a 3$ Tamiya motor. !!! lol

cheers
Aziz

[Se_12alty]

The atomic tunned motor is fine but with the 12 gear pinion with that much torque i'm not sure how safe it will be if you can do a wheelie.

My warning is: Its not good to reverse and drop it into forward. I think this is bad for the fet board and will heat it up and cause it to burn out. My friend use to mess around with his diff by setting it down and do a wannabe burn out while holding it down and it burned out his forward after a little bit.

[^j!nx^]

Originally posted by uaerc


I just hope this motor doesnt burn out my electronics.......especially loosing 70$ electronics for a 3$ Tamiya motor. !!! lol

cheers
Aziz


are you using a turbo?

[uaerc]

Hi

No. I aint using a Turbo.........

RECAP

Stock Overland Mitsubishi Pajero # 200
Chrome Chasis Guard.
750 Mah Energizer Nimh's runs over an hour !
Motors:
Stock
Xspeed
Tam. Atomic Tuned.

S_italy.

I just do it ocasionally...anyway i doubt that would burn FET ! , but thanks for the advice......

Your freind had held down the car and pushed on the throttle.....it could have damaged the motor !! coz of the strain.

I am expecting a power cut on this motor soon...lets see thats what someone had written in one of the post on this thread...

Lets hope that the FET lives !

cheers
Aziz

[Aluma]

hey all! happy new years! :D

wondering if you Xspeed owners notice a decline in performance after several runs...OR is it that we get used to the speed?

I was going to buy a new motor, but decided to ask first...and yes I already cleaned it with motor spray.

What pinion is best for the xspeed?...I think I'm using the 8 or 9Tooth that comes with the kit.

[Se_12alty]

happy new years to all as well!

to answer your question, yes after many runs or even just a few overtime will shorten the life of the motor. the x-speeds brushes will overtime wear down and will need to be replaced. you can find some on the PN website. As for the comm you can usually take it out and clean it with the motor spray etc.

Originally posted by Aluma
hey all! happy new years! :D

wondering if you Xspeed owners notice a decline in performance after several runs...OR is it that we get used to the speed?

I was going to buy a new motor, but decided to ask first...and yes I already cleaned it with motor spray.

What pinion is best for the xspeed?...I think I'm using the 8 or 9Tooth that comes with the kit.

[^jynx^]

http://rs-scooby.com/albums/R-C/TT_008.sized.jpg

[CarterTG]

The LHS had one MR-02mm on their shelves for a fair price, so I did my small part to bolster their employee retirement fund. ;) :D

[CarterTG]

Precision details in a model.. what a concept. :D

[CarterTG]

The overly loose stock differential I mentioned earlier... I figured if I was gonna replace it eventually with a ball diff, I might as well see if packing the stock one with grease might help. I used Tamiya's AntiWear Grease (53439) and am happy to report it works very nicely. There's enough limited slip to allow each wheel to track at different rates when making a sharp turn, but enough "lock" to make sure power transfer doesn't get lost in whichever wheel breaks traction.

I haven't tested this on a grippy surface yet, but if I find that the diff is too tight, I can always flush the gears clean and mix down the Tamiya grease with something lighter.

[coolracer47]

What pinion do you guys run who have a x-speed motor? I just got mine in the mail today.:D Right now im running the 6t pinion.
Thanks.

[^j!nx^]

well i do alot of drag racing(15foot strip) and alot of tight cours racing. With my hand wound ballbearing motor, and turbo. I run a 7t. Its sooooooooooooooooooooooo fast off the line its not even funny

[AznJunkie]

CarterTG – yeah packing the diff with grease will help. I highly recommend you just buy the ball diff. It’s well worth it.

coolracer47 – The pinion should matter on what type of track you’re running on or what type of speed you want. I would say a good balance of speed and torque is with a 7t or an 8t.


On a side note I went to the Kyosho Cup in Plantation, FL. I have a fun time. I race the MR-02 (Enzo) and got third place but just barely. The guy ahead of me had car problems and that gave me a chance for third. You guys should see me in RCCA. :)

[^j!nx^]

Ok new problem. I seem to have everything working nice. Maybe to nice. After a few seconds the pinion gear on the motor flies off. LoL So i tried powerline derlin gear, and it stays for like 3 minutes. I notice they make pinion with a set screw, but the lowest tooth they have is 10, and as a few post befor i like to use the 6t. Any suggestion?

[OrcSlayer]

:mad: Does anyone know what part number for the bushings that go in the rear wheels? I have two Mini-Zs and I've lost one bushing from each. They are described in the manual as 3mm plastic bushings. I searched for them on Tower but got nothing... any help?

Edit: It'd be nice if there was a cheaper solution than paying $20 a set or $5 for bearings from Tower.

[Se_12alty]

jinx- try placing a small piece of paper over the motor's armature and slide the pinion over that paper. it should make it tighter and stay better. you are also the first person i have heard having a problem with pinions flying off maybe you aren't pushing it down far enough.

Originally posted by ^j!nx^
Ok new problem. I seem to have everything working nice. Maybe to nice. After a few seconds the pinion gear on the motor flies off. LoL So i tried powerline derlin gear, and it stays for like 3 minutes. I notice they make pinion with a set screw, but the lowest tooth they have is 10, and as a few post befor i like to use the 6t. Any suggestion?

I found your part number on tower! LXAVU7 or go here: http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXAVU7&P=7

In my opinion its better just to save a little more and get the bearings. Just my .02

Originally posted by OrcSlayer
:mad: Does anyone know what part number for the bushings that go in the rear wheels? I have two Mini-Zs and I've lost one bushing from each. They are described in the manual as 3mm plastic bushings. I searched for them on Tower but got nothing... any help?

Edit: It'd be nice if there was a cheaper solution than paying $20 a set or $5 for bearings from Tower.

[OrcSlayer]

Thanks a lot man. I was searching for "Kyosho bushing" and not getting anything. I could get bearings, but I haven't had time for R/C lately and need to desensitize myself to the insane prices before I drop 20 bucks on 8 bearings, or $5 on 1. :)

[AznJunkie]

OrcSlayer get the mini z bearings from e-bay. It should cost about $10 shipped. Only thing is that the bearings will come from HK. So it will take a little while for shipping.

[CarterTG]

Originally posted by OrcSlayer
...lost one bushing from each. They are described in the manual as 3mm plastic bushings...

Those 3mm plastic bushings are the equivalent of Duratrax's (http://www.duratrax.com/caraccys/bearing.html) 3x6 ball bearings (DTXC1503). Tower has a pair of them listed at $4... not too bad if you're planning to order a bigger stash of stuff from them, otherwise you can always try the local hobby shop.

[lil_general_lee]

Well, we got our RCP Mini Z track up and running a few weeks ago and I have to say it's a blast. I personally have a problem with my Mini Z not trimming out straight. I set it once, take a few laps and it's off again. Is this common? Could this be the transmitter or car not centering? I don't want to change any front end geometry like a toe in bar or anything like that for the reason that my car is perfectly set up for my driving style on the RCP track. Maybe finding a way to take some play out of the steering may help. It's the Cerumo Supra if that helps at all. Anyways, Let me know if any of you have ran across this problem before or know of a way to fix it.

Thanks,
RJ

[Se_12alty]

not sure if its been explained in here but there is a trick called the paper trick. It is used to stop glitching in the steering servo. I think it may help with your centering problem. When you open your servo case the front of it is a round black thing called the "Pots" (orange,green wire). I took a piece of paper folded it twice and put it in between the pots and the little white piece that goes onto the pots. In my opinion this shims out a tad bit and allowing it to have more contact on the 1st servo gear thus having less play.

Note this is just my opinion. ;)

[Se_12alty]

Paper trick pic

[Nab04]

lil_general-lee, I read a lot of good reviews on the RCP Track, where did you get yours? It sounds like this track is really something special. It is used for the kyosho mini-z races and I read that a lot of the pro drivers really enjoyed racing on it. I hope kyosho builds another cool track this year in their booth at RCX. Maybe they will use the RCP track for people to demo the cars. That would be sweet!

[Se_12alty]

Nab04, I have never tested the actual RCP foam track, however at my local hobby store we have a similar type foam. It was purchased at the local hardware store, it is the foam matting that is used in work stations to absorb impact when something falls down. Many of us who race this foam surface loves it! It hooks so much and the fact that it is foam I really don't see that much wear on my tires. It is a really fast surface type track once you got your car setup!

[Information Man]

To all you Mini Z fans

I have two for sale please feel free to check out my sale here:

http://www.radiocontrolzone.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=1322581#post1322581

Thanks

:)

[CarterTG]

Just a li'l shot of what I've been workin' on

[miniguy62]

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Pro racing on a 16 x 38 RCP track near Hampton beach NH

Please Come out and support the cause to keep mini z's alive and well.

Thanks all in advance and thanks to Radio Control Zone for a great board.

Track owner
Dean J. Costa rc-crazy.com (www.rc-crazy.com)

[Racin Rev]

I am having a problem with my mini z. I bought it back in the day (when they first came out) and used it very little. from the first it never had much range. about 20 feet and it begins to take what look like radio hits (servo jerks sometimes violently, throttle unresponsive). at 30 feet the car is completely outside of the control of the radio. I suppose that I should have sent it back but I thought that they were all this way and i was only using it in the basement to asuage my habit until nitro season was back in the swing.

I have checked my connections and they all seem good. one of the impacts toasted a chrystal but the lhs tried a couple which proved that the chrystal was bad but did not correct the range issue. does anyone have any ideas. I would like to get it back on the road but measure it against the cost of a radio shack car.

Also where is a complete source of hop ups?

thanks

[jrjr]

Originally posted by Racin Rev
I am having a problem with my mini z. I bought it back in the day (when they first came out) and used it very little. from the first it never had much range. about 20 feet and it begins to take what look like radio hits (servo jerks sometimes violently, throttle unresponsive). at 30 feet the car is completely outside of the control of the radio. I suppose that I should have sent it back but I thought that they were all this way and i was only using it in the basement to asuage my habit until nitro season was back in the swing.

I have checked my connections and they all seem good. one of the impacts toasted a chrystal but the lhs tried a couple which proved that the chrystal was bad but did not correct the range issue. does anyone have any ideas. I would like to get it back on the road but measure it against the cost of a radio shack car.

Also where is a complete source of hop ups?

thanks

Check this out:
http://www.draconious.com/Mini-Z/TT_Antenna.html

[BobT]

http://img28.photobucket.com/albums/v84/Bob_T/Pics%20for%20Bobs%20web%20page/Mini_Group.jpg

I'm sure you already checked your transmitter batteries right?

Check e-bay for 27mhz AM transmitters. There is a "buy it now" for $35. Its a Futaba MJ that will give you more features that can make the car easier to drive.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3183940938&category=2565

Any 27mhz AM radio will work with the Mini Z. Some will require you to adjust the steering pot on the car. See http://minizcanada.com/tech/radio.php#steeringpot for a how to.

[Racin Rev]

i don't have any idea what he is talking about.

[BobT]

i don't have any idea what he is talking about.

"at 30 feet the car is completely outside of the control of the radio."

Your range problem is due to your transmitter being out of adjustment or its fried. You will have to fix or replace the transmitter to improve your range.

"Do you understand the words that are coming out of my mouth?" :D

[mini-z guy]

I have an MR-02 with a whole bunch of upgrades. On it I have upgraded stearing, aluminum wheels, V groove tires, green chassis, aluminum steering plate, upgraded steering blocks, 2 front aluminum knuckles in red, 2 bearings on each of the front wheels and 2 bearings on each of the rear wheels an 1 bearing on the motor, ball dif. shaft, upgraded pinion gear, oiled rear shock (with upgraded spring on the shock), front suspension has 2 gold spring dampeners, aluminum motor case (in red which is also a motor heat sink), battery heat sink, carbon fiber T plate, red screws all over the car, E Turbo from Hobby ECT., PN Racing batteries, stainless steal kingpins, and
PN Racing batteries. On this car i am running a PN Racing S03 Pro modified motor which requires a turbo, which is why i have the E turbo. The body of the car is an Enzo Ferrari. It has a MM chassis. I have another one of these cars, exactly the same, but stock (meaning not having any upgrades). I also own a mini-z monster truck which is also stock except for the Kyosho XSPEED motor. I also put some bearings on the monster truck. I have a Tamiya Speed Checker. On that it shows that my car goes 46 mph (on fully charged batteries) I love mini-zs and i am looking for a track in Northern New Jeresey. If anyone knows of a track for min-zs in New Jersey PLEASE let me know. Thanx for reading!!

[uaerc]

Where did everyone go .......just when I bought the 40th Anniversary edition Mad FORCE ??

Comon guys this thing is great........ especially with a 6 cell 7.2 V Volt lit. bat.....it wheelies without the pull back.....

ZooZ

[Se_12alty]

i smell burnt fets all over this :(

i tried to do 5 AAA's and it didn't even work, i ended up burning out my fwd 6x2 fet upgrade. so i would seriously reconsider before something really bad errr goes wrong. :eek:

[uaerc]

DO you suggest I should get a Turbo Installed with the Plasma Dash Tamiya motor and the lith. Bat . ?? If yess.. what Turbo works with the MAD FORCE...

[Se_12alty]

the only reason i say this is because this motor draws too much power and your built in esc can't handle it. so yes an after market turbo or internal turbo is required to run the motor. as for what turbo works there are a few you can buy online just look on e bay under mini z. good luck.

DO you suggest I should get a Turbo Installed with the Plasma Dash Tamiya motor and the lith. Bat . ?? If yess.. what Turbo works with the MAD FORCE...

[uaerc]

HOwz the Twin Turbo from GPM ?? have you used this. will it work with the PLASMA MOTOR ?

[flabandit]

I'm waiting for the mini-z lancer evo from the movie. Tower said it had an upgraded mr-02 chasis. But kyosho's site said the lancer model was the older chasis style. Which will tower ship? Thanks to anyone who might have done this?

Also, is the upgraded speed motor any good.
(the mini-z adds to the growing garage of a B4, mini-t and tc3 - and a no-name boat.)

[Se_12alty]

if i'm not mistaking yes the Evo from 2f2f will have the older chasis(mr01) but will have the braking feature similar to the f1's and mr02's. if you plan to upgrade it to the mr02 chasis you might as well have purchased the MR02 and buy just the Evo body from a *** site. because for a good number of people switching over was tideous. i have also heard that Kyosho has upgraded their mr01 chasis to have a servo saver and the new/lower rear motor pod so this migh be what they are talking about. as for the motor your best bet is to stay with the X-Speed. it requires no fet upgrade or turbo and is Kyosho Cup legal. other hop-up motors require some upgrades or you will fry out your board. good luck and have fun!

I'm waiting for the mini-z lancer evo from the movie. Tower said it had an upgraded mr-02 chasis. But kyosho's site said the lancer model was the older chasis style. Which will tower ship? Thanks to anyone who might have done this?

Also, is the upgraded speed motor any good.
(the mini-z adds to the growing garage of a B4, mini-t and tc3 - and a no-name boat.)

[flabandit]

Sounds good. I just bought a house with a large garage and covered patio. That's one of the reasons I wanted the mini-z. It's the perfect size for the area. I may also build a dirt or carpet track in the back yard now that I have one.

It will be interesting to see which chasis it is now that you gave me that info. The tower ad litterally says the evo has the "upgraded mr-02." Wonder if it was a mistake. If it was, maybe they'll take it back and honor the adverstisement with a new chasis for the same price. Either way, I think I'll have a good time.

Here's the link or just search for mini-z on tower:
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXGHD3**&P=7

[Se_12alty]

oh okay i see, yeah i think maybe they just put the evo body on the 02 chasis. from the description i can tell its the 02 style chasis but it will be the mid motor mount instead of the rear. it comes in a RM and MM. enjoy your new beater. :p

Sounds good. I just bought a house with a large garage and covered patio. That's one of the reasons I wanted the mini-z. It's the perfect size for the area. I may also build a dirt or carpet track in the back yard now that I have one.

It will be interesting to see which chasis it is now that you gave me that info. The tower ad litterally says the evo has the "upgraded mr-02." Wonder if it was a mistake. If it was, maybe they'll take it back and honor the adverstisement with a new chasis for the same price. Either way, I think I'll have a good time.

Here's the link or just search for mini-z on tower:
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXGHD3**&P=7

[flabandit]

So I got ripped from Tower. Though the ad said it was an mr-02 chasis, it wasn't. It wasn't even an upgraded mr-01. Just the old one. I realized this after I put it together and ran it for about 30 seconds and it sorta stunk.

Now that kinda ticked me off after waiting for it to get here.

Tower has always been very good in the past so I'm gonna send it back and hope they take care of it. They said they might only give partial credit since I opened it but I told them it was for like half a minute. I'm going to request they honor the ad and send me one with the right chasis. Hope they will. But now I have to send it back and wait.

Oh well.

Do you know if there is a 2f2f lancer body for the mr-02? I think the back tires are wider so I don't know if it will fit.

[Se_12alty]

any Kyosho mini z body can fit to the 02/01 chasis. its all about how silly the wheels look sticking in or out. the other issue is having the front nose clip. i would suggest just returing the mini z and get the 02 with 02 body. the 02 bodies have a clear gloss coat and IMO they are more durable. as for the 2f2f body check e b a y and do that. check your PM btw.

So I got ripped from Tower. Though the ad said it was an mr-02 chasis, it wasn't. It wasn't even an upgraded mr-01. Just the old one. I realized this after I put it together and ran it for about 30 seconds and it sorta stunk.

Now that kinda ticked me off after waiting for it to get here.

Tower has always been very good in the past so I'm gonna send it back and hope they take care of it. They said they might only give partial credit since I opened it but I told them it was for like half a minute. I'm going to request they honor the ad and send me one with the right chasis. Hope they will. But now I have to send it back and wait.

Oh well.

Do you know if there is a 2f2f lancer body for the mr-02? I think the back tires are wider so I don't know if it will fit.

[flabandit]

any Kyosho mini z body can fit to the 02/01 chasis. its all about how silly the wheels look sticking in or out. the other issue is having the front nose clip. i would suggest just returing the mini z and get the 02 with 02 body. the 02 bodies have a clear gloss coat and IMO they are more durable. as for the 2f2f body check e b a y and do that. check your PM btw.

That's good to hear because that's exactly what I did. The Ferrari F50 is on the way. Tower, i think, has taken care of the problem. I say I think because I don't know exactly how much it will cost me. They should have just replaced the 01 with the 02 as the add said, but I'll be fine if I have to spend a few extra dollars...as long as its just a few. Hopefully it will be cool.

[flabandit]

Got the F50. Very cool! Few quick questions. The rear shock doesn't seem to fit with this body. Is that normal or am I doing something wrong?

Also, it tends to spin out a bit both on the concrete garage, carpet and tile floors. Will a ball diff help?

Any other upgrade tips?

[Se_12alty]

quick answer!
your shock maybe set improperly check the screw positions, and if it is after market non kyosho shock you may have problems. if i'm not mistaking it should sit no higher than the motor pod.
also your spinning out problem can be linked to your tire combinations and also your "H" plate maybe tweaked causing one side to lift. the ball diff can help but even at the track i race most use stock diff and have no problems while racing. you may also be diff'ing out. you can slow it down by greasing the diff gears. when you get more serious into racing and trying to get your car to run w/o spinning out the best thing you can buy for your car is Tires!

Got the F50. Very cool! Few quick questions. The rear shock doesn't seem to fit with this body. Is that normal or am I doing something wrong?

Also, it tends to spin out a bit both on the concrete garage, carpet and tile floors. Will a ball diff help?

Any other upgrade tips?

[flabandit]

Still can't get the shock to fit. It's the one that came with it. According to the box, I have the RML, not just the RM chasis. The picture of the rml to fit the F50 body doesn't have the shock attached.

[AznJunkie]

If that's the case just take off the shock. You may not notice a big difference in handing. I would like to warn you that the stock H-Plate is very easy to break. I would get the carbon fiber H-Plate set (usually comes in a set of 3 and it doesn't have to be Kyosho brand) and don’t use the shock at all.

I would the stiffest H-Pate with no spring for racing and it works well for me. The upgrades I highly recommend are tires, H-Plates and maybe aluminum knuckles (if the wheels stick out of the body).

[flabandit]

Sounds good. Any recomendations on tires? I'm primarily going to run on my smooth, painted concrete garage floor, short carpet and smooth tile at the house. I hope to eventually get one of those rcp-tracks, or a foam equivalent for the garage.

I also hope to get some of the aluminum parts, rims, rear motor plate, side heat sinks, etc. That and a new body. I'm assuming they will come out with more mr02 bodys.

Thanks for the help.
(P.S. The garage now includes: AE B4, AE TC3, Losi Mini-t and Kyosho mini-z, one cheap r/c boat for the pool. I'll never have to leave the house!)

[AznJunkie]

I don't know which tires will work for sure; I would say try the softest compound Kyosho offer (20 degrees, in pink package). If that doesn't work go for GPM tires, they offer tires as low as 8 degrees. You may have to experiment a little bit to find the right tires.

They RCP foam is great for the Mini Z. They sell the same foam at Home Depot. We use to run on that and the Mini Z would handle really well.

As for bodies, I'm sure Kyosho will offer more bodies. They have a survey on their site about new bodies: http://www.kyosho.com/promos/kyo-miniz-survey.html
Or if you have the time, you can mod model car bodies to fit on the Mini Z.

[microrcdude]

Anyone seen all the new bodies? they have all sorts of great bodies. if i find the link ill post it

[flabandit]

Could you provide a link to the foam on the Home Depot site? I couldn't find it.

As for the tires, I scuffed em a little and it's handling almost on rails. It's a lot tighter turning right. Turning left at fast speeds causes a little spin out. I also have a bit of tire spin on the initial acceleration. I assume the tires and a ball diff will fix that.

Thanks.

[AznJunkie]

I’m can’t find a link for the foam, but I know they sell it. It’s a mat that you can use out door or for the work shop. Each mat looks like a puzzle. I think it comes in a set of 3 or 4. You just connect each piece like a puzzle. One side of the mat has non slip diamond print and the other side is smooth like the rcp track.

[Aluma]

Dude, DONT get that stuff!! its WAY too slick. I had a track of that material and frankly it was worthless. Just go buy outside carpeting from walmart or homedepot, turn it upside down and you'll have some really good grip without having to add any chemicals. Make sure you lay it down smooth, the kinks will make your car hop around a bit. Oh yeah, if you get garden hose, you can use it as rails.

[flabandit]

I've been using a long extension cord for rails on the cement in the garage. If I have enough, I might just pony up for the RCp track, or that lakeshore track. I wonder if the lakeshore is anywhere near the rcp. I know you can order the lakeshore off their web site or ebay. The rcps seem to only be available from radioshack.

[AznJunkie]

Dude, DONT get that stuff!! its WAY too slick. I had a track of that material and frankly it was worthless.

We use that material for our old track and we didn't have any problems. I ran on carpet, that foam, and painted track (track spray with some kind of paint). The foam was the only material I really like. My car would always hook even with crappy tires. I could never get my car to hook on carpet.

The painted track that I race at now, you can use pretty much all kinds of tires. You can see our track here: http://www.snowbirdnationals.com/franks.htm
The white surface is now gone. We wanted to try something new, but it became stick after a few race. So we went back to the old paint.

[Se_12alty]

flabandit you can actually pick the foam up from lowes home improvement store. Aznjunkie is right i've raced on the same foam picked up from lowes and it is the best. just because aluma probably stepped on it and got it dusty doesn't mean it's going to be a loss of traction and slide. here is a link to it, hope it works. http://www.lowes.com/lkn?action=productDetail&productId=168520-102-RG552273
these are colored so i'm not sure if they will be teh same as the gray ones used in garages. but check it out i even saw some at walmart for sale.

btw if you buy carpet and flip it upside down won't the little lines cause some kind of weird traction control? just a thought.

[flabandit]

Thanks. It looks like the lowe's mats would be about as expensive as buying an entire track from lakeshore or rcp.

Also, anybody else here notice there seems to be a whole lot more hop up parts and bodies for the mr01 than the mr02?

[Se_12alty]

same goes for anyother car. give it a while and more parts/hop-ups will be produced for the 02 as done with the 01. i'm not sure about the pricing but if its about the same then go with rcp. just remember not all hopups work or even track worthy but if you are just messing around and need stronger parts then aluminum motor pod and batt. clips are worth it. but as for the aluminum knucles (they are worth it on and off track) simply because the stock ones are crap.

Thanks. It looks like the lowe's mats would be about as expensive as buying an entire track from lakeshore or rcp.

Also, anybody else here notice there seems to be a whole lot more hop up parts and bodies for the mr01 than the mr02?

[flabandit]

Yeah, I do want to get the anodized aluminum knuckle arms. I was looking for red, but haven't found em. Think I might go silver. This of course would be for strenght but mostly looks since I don't plan on racing.

[Redman65]

I love these kits. I have 6 Mini-Z's, 3 X-Mods, and a Mini-T. I also have an E-Maxx, RCT3, TC3, and a Nitro Sport. I'm looking forward to purchasing a track from www.microtracksystems.com sometime in December. Anyone who is a fan of the on-road mini-z's should check this site out. It's is really cool!

[Redman65]

Where did everyone go .......just when I bought the 40th Anniversary edition Mad FORCE ??

Comon guys this thing is great........ especially with a 6 cell 7.2 V Volt lit. bat.....it wheelies without the pull back.....

ZooZ
If you want to see how to put some real POWER into your Mad Force or any 02 mini-z check out www.atomicmods.com They have everything you need to do it right or if you want to skip the work they can do it for you.

[Vmax911]

Thanks. It looks like the lowe's mats would be about as expensive as buying an entire track from lakeshore or rcp.



Check out you local Sam's club or Costco. My sam's club has pack of 8 (I think) tiles for about $16. So far I've bought 3 packs and can make a fairly large track.

[flabandit]

What did you use for the rails? Any pictures?

[Aluma]

just because aluma probably stepped on it and got it dusty doesn't mean it's going to be a loss of traction and slide.

Yes, I stepped on it during the putting together process. But we also cleaned it really well aka mopping. :P I kept getting crazy wheel spin off the line and hooking everywhere. Only stock mini z's could go around the track sortof okay cuz of the low power.

The shop had bought it off of some other hobby shop in Houston...it came with foam rails and a few decorations.

[flabandit]

I've seen some pics of people who put the wider rear tires on the front, and kept the wide rears too. Does this help anything on an MR02?

[arch2b]

if your looking to see more stuff regarding mini-z's, you can go to thier website. mini-ztime now has some english and lots of images.
http://www.mini-z.jp/modules/catalog/

you can buy rcp tracks at mini-zracer.com. you'll find the prices aren't bad at all, infact cheaper than rs. i have about 3 wide L tracks and love it!.
http://www2.mini-zracer.com/shop/products.php?pid=11

you can see many images/videos in my member album on mini-zracer
http://www2.mini-zracer.com/gallery/album194

[Se_12alty]

Flabandit, arch2b will set you in the right direction for all your mini z questions as well as mini-zracer. c o m. also not worth putting wider tires on fronts. some bodies will have rubbing issues and you will also stand a greater chance of hitting something and snapping the king pin portion of the chasis. i've went through two chasis so far just by running wider skinny fronts on wider rims on my nsx body. but i am a rough racer and the wall is my friend. the med. wide tires fit front rims but 20 deg. may need some double side taping to hold on.

[snyderm]

I went to a local race track and have decided that I would like to get into 1/10 scale racing. I have a brand new Venom Mini Giant and brand new adult driven and inside the house driven 40th anniversary Mini Z Monster.

Venom Mini Monster includes: Hop Ups are still in their packaging.

4 aluminum oil filled shocks
Fireball 370 motor
Bearing set
8.4v Venom hex battery pack
Wheelie Bar

40th anniversary Mini Z Monster: Hop Ups already installed.

Chrome Edition with chrome parts
Oil filled shocks
Bearings
X Speed Motor

Both have their original boxes with instructions. Venom Mini Giant hasn't even been opened yet.

Asking $360 with free shipping in the US. It's a bargain deal with all of the hop ups, especially all of the Mini Giant hop ups in their packaging still.

Thanks for thinking about it and making my hope of driving a 1/10 scale buggy hopefully happen.

[OPC]

I found these pictures at Kyoshos website in Japan. They are from Kyoshos mini-z racing events and they are using the cusotm tracks built by rcp tracks. I believe Kyosho sells these in Japan just like here in the states. I have two wide L tracks and they are the best surface I have ever raced on. I dumped my home depot mats in the trash once I started racing on these new tracks. There is no comparison to the depot mats. My HPI micro runs great on the track also. I am expanding the lanes to make them wider so I can run a bunch of 1/18's at one time.

Check out these Kyosho track pictures from there events. You can see more pictures at mini-z.jp. Go to the mini-z time site and then go to the mini-z cup section.

http://www.kyosho.co.jp/web/race/miniz_cup/resalt/koube/reports-j.html
http://www.kyosho.co.jp/web/race/miniz_cup/resalt/gifu/reports-j.html
http://www.kyosho.co.jp/web/race/miniz_cup/resalt/hukuoka/reports-j.html

[flabandit]

All made of 1 inch pvc pipe and foam pipe insulation. Cost, about $60. Size, about 14 X 14 feet.

[CrzyDrifter]

anybody interested in a evry good condition an very well hopped up miniz?

hop-up list:
-GPM roll shocks
-CF h-plate
-GPM ball diff
-GPM alloy low motor mount (also have alloy high motor mount)
-x-speed motor
-Servo arm replacement (if u crash, the arm will break instead of the servo gears, alot cheaper to replace)
-Tons of spare stuff...
-20rears and 30fronts (have 4 other tires.but not sure of the degrees)
-original diff/rims/clips

Bodies:
-AutoScale Endless 350z
-AutoScale G'zox NSX
-Altezza

Radio:
-Kyosho KT-5

[sphinks36]

Could you buy a bare chassi and build a Z off of it? Would it cost more? Can all the parts for a mini-Z be bought or are some parts unique to the kit?

[Se_12alty]

unfortunatly no it would not be wise to build a mini z from scratch and parts. the electronics they use are pieced together meaning the ESC, servo, and receiver are all in one.

you can buy seperate parts for the car such as chasis, misc. pieces for front, rear, motor housing etc.

i had the concept of using the micro servo's, esc, and receivers from a helecopter or plane and make a insane mini z but can't afford to waste that kind of money.

Could you buy a bare chassi and build a Z off of it? Would it cost more? Can all the parts for a mini-Z be bought or are some parts unique to the kit?

[Se_12alty]

and that componet cost around $100 which is the cost of a brand new mini z ready to run.

unfortunatly no it would not be wise to build a mini z from scratch and parts. the electronics they use are pieced together meaning the ESC, servo, and receiver are all in one.

[flabandit]

What would be the best way to fix what I'd guess is overstear? The z tends to come off a turn and continue in the direction of the turn no matter how quickly or slowly I let off the steering. Almost makes a U turn. Any ideas?

[Se_12alty]

assuming you are using the radio that came w/ your mini z there is a dual-rate feature on the radio that allows you to draw out steering. that is where i would check first if you haven't already. if thats not the case then change tires, remember when racing or even bashing tires can make or break you.

if it is spinning out then you may want to check to see if your mini z has tweak or rebuild your diff. but 9/10 times it is a simply trying to find the right tire combination.

What would be the best way to fix what I'd guess is overstear? The z tends to come off a turn and continue in the direction of the turn no matter how quickly or slowly I let off the steering. Almost makes a U turn. Any ideas?

[flabandit]

I did mess with the dual rate. Didn't help too too much. Basically if I take the turn too fast, it spins out. Too slow and it turns to far.

What tire combo would you suggest for a painted garage floor? It's very smooth but dull, not slick.

I have an mr02 with a pitwork skyline body. Which degree and width would work?

[Se_12alty]

i've never tried driving on painted garage floors but tire combo worth a shot maybe 30 rears (yellow) and 40 fronts (green), its hard to say but just mess around w/ it a little bit.

also if you are using a ball diff try locking it down, that will prevent you from getting loose in the rear so you won't spin out. it will also create "Push" but as they say its easier to drive w/ push but its faster when its loose. also if you don't mind you can put a dab of super glue on the gears in the stock diff to get the lock differential but it is a permanent mod.

I did mess with the dual rate. Didn't help too too much. Basically if I take the turn too fast, it spins out. Too slow and it turns to far.

What tire combo would you suggest for a painted garage floor? It's very smooth but dull, not slick.

I have an mr02 with a pitwork skyline body. Which degree and width would work?

[Aluma]

hi guys...its been a LOONGG time since I've posted in here.... I went to a race yesterday and was handed a whoopin. First time racing the Mro1. I have pretty much all the hopups....alum bits, shocks, carbon plates, Xspeed...etc... I was racing on outdoor carpet turned upside down. It give excellent traction. with the carbon H plate it would chatter all the way around the turns horribly and roll over all the time... With the side shocks, it would chatter all the way around the turns roll just a little bit...so after taking all that off and just leaving the stock plastic Hplate + the rear shock it handled decently... This doesn't really make sense to me but stock works best? everyone else was running Mr02's pretty much stock with Xspeeds and lapping me 4 or more times. :( any ideas as to how to keep up?

[microrcdude]

Lighten your car as much as possible, and try to lower the CG(If possible)

[Aluma]

so I should get rid of all the alum. bits and go back to stock with ball diff?

[performula]

What parts does someone recommend for the MR2 straight out of the box? Who has the best deals on the MiniZ series?

[arch2b]

so I should get rid of all the alum. bits and go back to stock with ball diff?
when your car weighs less it will go faster with less work. try to find a good balance between what hop ups you want and can do without. you have to find the happy medium but then again a far better driver will likely still beat you with a stock car as skills are what really wins the race.

[wishmasstir]

i just picked up a s2000 mini z for 10 bucks off a buddy of mine ... it runs good and all but there is a tooth missing on the pinion and the tires are all cracked up

i'm not too sure which model it is ... to be looking for replacement parts
this thing isn't really all that fast either ... i'd like it to really fly what motor/esc or anything i can do to it to make it fast ... also can you use a hump pack or only 4 aaa's in these things

sorry, the picture doesn't look too good but hopefully it will get the job done .. is this a mr02 or 01 or which model??????

[arch2b]

i just picked up a s2000 mini z for 10 bucks off a buddy of mine ... it runs good and all but there is a tooth missing on the pinion and the tires are all cracked up

i'm not too sure which model it is ... to be looking for replacement parts
this thing isn't really all that fast either ... i'd like it to really fly what motor/esc or anything i can do to it to make it fast ... also can you use a hump pack or only 4 aaa's in these things

sorry, the picture doesn't look too good but hopefully it will get the job done .. is this a mr02 or 01 or which model??????
that is an mr-01

pinion gears are cheap and easy to find for the most part.

to get a really fast setup you would have to upgrade the fets OR get an external turbo. i prefer fets as it's a no mess solution but if you want external look into the ph2t turbo's.

the mr-01's have a lower voltage capacity than the mr-015 and mr-02 so i'm not sure if you can safely do a 5 or 6 cell setup or not.

if you want the absolute fastest motors, check into NML motors. they are roundly considered the fastest.

mini-z rubber tires will dry and crack if left out for extended periods of time. some good brands are atomic 10 deg. grooved, gpm 8 deg A or kyohso mt 10 deg for the rear and for the front you typically want something about 10-20 deg's higher. this is all dependant on what surface you run on and how you like your car to handle though. there will be MANY opinions on tires and motors

[wishmasstir]

alright thanks ... now i have something to actually look into on these things ... how fast does my mr-01 actually go ... and how fast can i make it go???

[arch2b]

alright thanks ... now i have something to actually look into on these things ... how fast does my mr-01 actually go ... and how fast can i make it go???
again, look for NML related articles and or video's. he has had mini-z's in the 40mph plus range i believe.

[lanippon]

hello everybody

Sorry for this post, it was a test, and now I don't know how to erase it.

[CrzyDrifter]

anybody interested in a very well tuned miniz?
http://forums.radiocontrolzone.com/showthread.php?p=1735470#post1735470

[Savagerocks90]

I have been wondering, what is the difference between the Kyosho Mini Z and the Mai Po Mini Z.

[Savagerocks90]

sorry, I meant Hei Pao, I have one and I would like to get a Kyosho upgrade motor for it and I am wondering if it would fit

[Se_12alty]

savagerocks90, they hei pao are very basic clones of the mini z and click when steering. it has no range whatsoever and the controller opperates on a 9v battery. i'm sure they can use the Kyosho X-Speed motor but do not quote me on that.

In my opinion the Hei Pao is worse than the Radio Shack X-mods. At least the x-mods are some what upgradeable and have parts.

My roomate was ripped off on this site by a punk kid who had one but that is long ago. Basically the only thing good about this car is the bodies if even that.

[KREATOR1]

check out my ride Mr01 fully hopped. :)

[Savagerocks90]

Thanks for the help, I have bought one for a steal off of ebay and am enjoying it, but I would like a faster motor, so I might try a Kyosho Motor

[PitwrkzZ1]

Hi. I have a Mclaren with a bunch of upgrades
hi arch, it williams f1#3 :p

[KREATOR1]

guys , i got a mini-z fully hop hup for sale

http://forums.radiocontrolzone.com/showthread.php?t=196893

check it out

[wishmasstir]

hey guys how do i put a 7 tooth pinion on my mini-z ... it makes the mesh too tight and won't turn the wheels???????????????????????????

[PitwrkzZ1]

hey guys how do i put a 7 tooth pinion on my mini-z ... it makes the mesh too tight and won't turn the wheels???????????????????????????
do you have the correct motor mounts?

[AznJunkie]

If you have the stock pod. Put a 1.0 plate inside the motorpod and a 1.0 inside the little clip. That should give you the correct mesh.

[wishmasstir]

its the regular stock stuff ... actually ... who wants to buy this thing ... i just put all new bushings in it that came in the kyosho kit ... pm me for pictures ... let me know how much they are worth ... its an s-2000 in really good shape ... i have 7,8,9 tooth pinions just don't know how to use them ... i guess i need more parts to use them.

[tcr]

I had a mini-z Ferrari Modena360 w/Parma Super16d. And I've just bought a ABC DTM SP with a Autoscale Mercedes CLK-DTM body and run with a Brusless motor. When compare both of them. I think the Dtm Sp rock, it is fully expandable and adjustable, it can handle much more better and it can run much faster than the mini-z, 85mph with a mamba competitionX at 11v(li-ion), stock setup. Since then I don't need to worry about stacking anymore fets.

[Adanmtxt1]

:D I've got an Overland, in the Mitsubishi Pajero, Dakar Rally version. I lifted the suspension the other day, but unfortunately, Tower Hobbies (and everyone else) has stopped carrying not only Overland parts, but ALL MINI-Z parts, except for a very few. What is the deal? I can't wait until the 4wd version!! :D :eek:

[Aluma]

I'm guessing its a business thing. No profits since everyone buys their miniZ's from specialized miniz online stores like minizracer.com etc... so they just stopped selling that kind of thing.

[jokesta55]

anyone planning on buying the new 4wd mini-z? It sounds as though it will have great traction and handling

[Redman65]

I'm good for the 4wd when they it. Has anyone tried the Iwaver mini's yet? If so, are they any good?

[natesmom]

Hi,

My young son (10) has broken his Overland Mini-Z. The shock has snapped off, and it appears that we need to replace the whole backend which holds the motor, etc.
Can anyone suggest where I might look? I have tried Google searching, tried the Kyosho website, but I am new to this world, and I am not even sure the name of what I am looking for, so this makes searching hard.

He is very very upset - so any help will be really appreciated. Thanks so much.

[Administrator]

You can contact the local hobby shop, one of many online dealers (search the web for Mini-Z and you'll come up with quite a few) or you can contact Kyosho America directly at 800-716-4518.

[WW McBride]

:D I've got an Overland, in the Mitsubishi Pajero, Dakar Rally version. (snip) I can't wait until the 4wd version!! :D :eek:

Does Kyosho have a 4wd version of the Overland models planned? How robust is the Overland?

I was thinking of using it as a base for a 1/16 scale ATV, or with mods, stuffing one under the Tamiya KubelWagen kit (the stock gear bites)

Someone want to give me the low-down?

[Redman65]

The overland is pretty tough. You have to use your head though. Huge jumps, 6 + inches is pushing it. A mini-quad would look cool. Give it a shot. I'd use the mini Mad Force for that.

[WW McBride]

The overland is pretty tough. You have to use your head though. Huge jumps, 6 + inches is pushing it. A mini-quad would look cool. Give it a shot. I'd use the mini Mad Force for that.

Ok, anyone have the wheel-base & width on the Overland units vs the Mad-Force ones? It might be easier to narrow/shorten a MF than to stretch an Overland.

[tcr]

News. :D The Mini-z is going 4wd. The first kit will be a Nissan Skyline R34 V-spec II and many more bodies will come available soon. Check it out and the video: http://www.kyosho.co.jp/web/products/car_bike/miniz/index-e.html

[WW McBride]

News. :D The Mini-z is going 4wd. The first kit will be a Nissan Skyline R34 V-spec II and many more bodies will come available soon. Check it out and the video: http://www.kyosho.co.jp/web/products/car_bike/miniz/index-e.html

No mention if they plan to go Overland-AWD too... hope so, those will be awesome!

[tcr]

Well in a truck, I alway like 2wd more than 4wd, because those oversize tires provide good enought traction(monster-mini). I always feel the 2wd is always faster than 4wd. It is lighter and at this scale it is too small. We like 4wd touring because it can turn faster and it can drift saver without go out of control. But I believe it will have a large possibility that the truck will get the 4wd system.

[4wdmt]

guys, i have a question. Does this new Mini-Z AWD have breaks before going into reverse? thank you.

[crypt]

wohooow i have mine since yesterday, it´s awesome, it´s very easy to drive, when you use the brake the car doesn´t move to any side, in acceleration is the same, a pic:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v64/alfonsogarrigosa/mini%20z/DSC01891.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v64/alfonsogarrigosa/mini%20z/DSC01892.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v64/alfonsogarrigosa/mini%20z/DSC01893.jpg

all thoes wheels are included in the chassis set , there are different wheel offset.

[Velveda Eater]

guys, i have a question. Does this new Mini-Z AWD have breaks before going into reverse? thank you.

Yes. You have breaks before reverse.

[pyro147]

Hi,
Im going on holiday to miami soon and want to get hold of a mini z, I was wondering of anyone knows any shops near that stock them?

Thanks

[JHob1]

Here’s my Mini-Z CHP Caprice with custom emergency lights. There are 47 LEDs in this car. The light-bar is modeled after and the LEDs are programed to replicate a Whelan Edge Strobe. I've also included head lights, tail w/ brake lights and a license plate light. To finish the package off, I've included lateral flashers, wig wags and flashers in the custom push-bar. ;)

4x3mm LEDs
8xSMD-LEDs 0805 red
29xSMD-LEDs 0805 white
6xSMD-LEDs 1206 white

Here are a few pics.

http://x11.putfile.com/2/5018021228.jpg (http://www.putfile.com)

http://x4.putfile.com/2/4818063067.jpg (http://www.putfile.com)

http://x4.putfile.com/2/4818043161.jpg (http://www.putfile.com)

http://x4.putfile.com/2/4818014212.jpg (http://www.putfile.com)

http://x4.putfile.com/2/4818032441.jpg (http://www.putfile.com)

And a couple of movies, the first is a 360º view of the car rotating on a platform and the second is the car cruising on a glass table top.

http://i1.zvhost.com/1/n/n59b65yf.jpg (http://www.zippyvideos.com/8479401953825246/mvi_1616/*jhob)

http://i1.zvhost.com/1/p/p83o6ns3.jpg (http://www.zippyvideos.com/9900349793823926/mvi_1536/*jhob)

Without exception, everyone who has seen this car in person has been blown away by how real it looks, especially at this scale. :D

[WW McBride]

Here’s my Mini-Z CHP Caprice with custom emergency lights. There are 47 LEDs in this car. The light-bar is modeled after and the LEDs are programed to replicate a Whelan Edge Strobe. I've also included head lights, tail w/ brake lights and a license plate light. To finish the package off, I've included lateral flashers, wig wags and flashers in the custom push-bar. ;)

4x3mm LEDs
8xSMD-LEDs 0805 red
29xSMD-LEDs 0805 white
6xSMD-LEDs 1206 white



Where'd you get the SMD-LED's? The R/C tankers have been looking for a spurce of super-small ones to replace the grain-of-wheat's in the R/C tank arrays.

Feel free to IM, PM or e-mail.

[Bashfull]

Wow, That thing is great. If it came up behind me on the freeway, I would probably pull over. lol Where did you get the little tiny bumper stickers ?

[Racin Rev]

You ought to enter that in the best paint section when they do a concourse comp.

[cianhanrahan]

I'd love to see under the lid, that looks amazing, it's by far the most intricate Lighting setup I have ever seen on a Miniz, or any RC infact!

Well done, that's a RROTM if ever I saw one!

[JHob1]

I'd love to see under the lid, that looks amazing, it's by far the most intricate Lighting setup I have ever seen on a Miniz, or any RC infact!Thanks for the compliments, guys. :D

Wiring this project was very tedious to say the very least. There are 28 SMD LEDs on six separate circuits in the light-bar alone. Here are a few pics of the inside. ;)

http://x402.putfile.com/2/5209550915.jpg (http://www.putfile.com)

http://x4.putfile.com/2/4818053576.jpg (http://www.putfile.com)

http://x4.putfile.com/2/4818141347.jpg (http://www.putfile.com)

[flavo01]

:) There is a movie of Backflip of Mini-Z Monster in a homepage of my acquaintance.
:) There is the image that an acquaintance remodeled into a body of a Racing Buggy type.

http://www.geocities.jp/sky10310305/

[HaCo]

http://img451.imageshack.us/img451/9774/img18185hk.th.jpg (http://img451.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img18185hk.jpg)
http://img451.imageshack.us/img451/219/img18208el.th.jpg (http://img451.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img18208el.jpg)

[Bashfull]

I have a Mini z MA-010 AWD, And I want to Install some upgraded FETs. When I looked at the Instuctions for doing this on Atomicmods.com they show that you should solder all 4 of the output pins on the FETs together,
However looking at the stock FETs, I see that only three of the output pins are soldered together, and the 4th pin is just soldered to the board only. :confused:

Can any one advise me on how to install the new FETs ?

Also, I am running the X-speed motor on NiMh batteries, and wonder if there will be any advantage to adding more than 2 stacks of 2 FETs to the board ?

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

[Redman65]

Is that a custom painted body?

[pukkita]

Hi! I've set up an open petition to Kyosho, asking them to fix the LapZ
flaws (software mainly), see
http://www.petitiononline.com/lapzpet/petition.html to sign:
http://www.petitiononline.com/lapzpet/petition-sign.html

I'm telling you this because I assume here may posts LapZ users or anyone reading this forum may know about other LapZ users or Clubs in his/her country, so please spread the word in your country, forums, clubs, etc!!!

[pukkita]

bashful,

Yes, all the 4 output pins should we soldered together; they're internally connected anyway.

Regarding FET installation, a couple portuguese miniz'ers posted recently a very good step by step video (http://www.xrt-rc.com/images/fets/fets.wmv) using the best overall method (the same I've used to FET more than 60 cars) IMHO. And even pics, see http://www.minizz.com/postt11692.html

Regard FET stacking, it depends on the make/model. for an AWD if I were using Vishay's SY4562Di (the one that appear in the photos) I wouldn't stack less than 2, maybe 3, depending on the motor I were using. If you pick Fairchild 4501H, two will be always enough, just one will suffice in most cases; I prefer a burnt FET that a melted PCB, and the AWD transmission will suffer a lot with a motor that can push more than a 4501 can stand.

If you wanna make your AWD scream, without going bankrupt on transmission parts, go for a 40-45 turns "stock" motor, buy good NiMH (sanyos are the best) and a good, AAA- gentle charger (flying people know the best). That will make your AWD go fast; just swapping the FETs and keeping an X-Speed won't make things very different, unless your X-speed is a lemon.

[BillH]

Does anyone know of a good source for mini-zs now that tower does not carry them?

[JHob1]

Does anyone know of a good source for mini-zs now that tower does not carry them?Bill, a very good source of Mini-Z’s online is http://shop.tinyrc.com/home.php#.

If they don’t have what you want, you can allways contact Kyosho USA @ (949) 454-8854. They will send you anything they have in stock for a single shipping fee of $7.00. Load up the items and the shipping is still $7.00. ;)

[BillH]

Does no one race these anymore? I love mine just need to find a good set of tires for my wood floor.

[HaCo]

Bill,

We still race them of course! Why, because these cars are awesome! Check my site http://www.miniz-nieuws.be and you'll see that miniz is still alive! It's in dutch, but with the pics and links you'll find a lot of information.

Now about our club. We race MiniZ cars on an RCP Track, here is a pic of the last race:
http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/3049/img2889gz3.th.jpg (http://img401.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img2889gz3.jpg)

2 Video's:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nG2I_fPOnA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgaN3_src1c (it is another race)

I hope this scale will stay alife forever. It's with big distance the most nicest scale there is, it's just a pitty that there is only one real brand making them which limits a bit the collection of bodies available, but Kyosho is doing the job perfect!

Oh yeah, to end my post, these are 3 of my weapons:
http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/2522/img2864ep7.th.jpg (http://img179.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img2864ep7.jpg) http://img451.imageshack.us/img451/9774/img18185hk.th.jpg (http://img451.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img18185hk.jpg) http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/9607/nissan350zminiz0024yl.th.jpg (http://img519.imageshack.us/my.php?image=nissan350zminiz0024yl.jpg)

Keep it up! :wave:

[BillH]

I agree about the size. I bought the RCP mini 96 track. Now I have a race track at home cant really do that in 1/10 scale. As for speed the cars are plenty fast.

[TimJohnson]

Hey guys, If you want some SoCal racing action, come on by!!!!! here is a bit of info:

http://www.sr20forum.com/gallery/data/500/medium/NovemberraceWEB.jpg

[Dan H]

Does anyone know if any new F1 bodies are coming out for the F1 Mini-Z's? I know they have the F2005 and MP4/20 but I was just wondering....

[gkcontra]

Does no one race these anymore? I love mine just need to find a good set of tires for my wood floor.

they are still raced here in TX as well.

try www.hircr.com and www.atomicmods.com

[Bornondabayou]

We race every Thursday night @ Highspeed hobbies in China Grove, NC. We usually have about 15 racers show up.
Highspeed Hobbies (http://hshobbies.com/)

[RCfroman]

where can you buy stock overland shocks? I need to stuff them on my micro t (which does work by the way).

[Bornondabayou]

Dinball Rcmart or in the states maybe RCkenon.com

[sleekun]

Hi everyone. I've been searching all kinds of forums and it looks like this might be the place for me to ask my question....
Are there any tracks around the Raleigh NC area that run Mini z (or reasonable driving distance)?
I see the one in China Grove which I'll probably check out but it's a little far for me to go with any consistency. I've been running mini-z's for a number of years now with a friend of mine in Asheville who has a track in his basement, but I can't seem to find anyone in the Raleigh area that has much interest in them.

If anyone knows of a place or anyone is interested in trying to formulate something for the Raleigh area please let me know.

[Techno]

anyone know anyone in the Cincinnati area that wants to share in the addiction that is mini-z if you dont belive i have the bug look at the pics
http://www2.mini-zracer.com/gallery/album775

and if you want to try and hook up to run just drop me an email
techno@isoc.net

[GRUNDIG415]

when is the new nascar mini z coming out?

[Techno]

when is the new nascar mini z coming out?
i belive at the end of feb the first one is suposed to be out

[wess]

Anyone familiar with how to make the blinking LEDs like the drifters? I've only been able to find this link, you need to scroll down to the date 2005/01/25. http://mini-z-bar.com/page003.html#lcn002

There's a link to a video of what it looks like and a diagram of how to build it, but i'm not really familiar with the language...

[Techno]

Anyone familiar with how to make the blinking LEDs like the drifters? I've only been able to find this link, you need to scroll down to the date 2005/01/25. http://mini-z-bar.com/page003.html#lcn002

There's a link to a video of what it looks like and a diagram of how to build it, but i'm not really familiar with the language...
got mine off E-bay they are called glow masta I did this on the chp car it is great i just added 2 more leds

[wess]

I actually found them right after I made the post... Does it look like the drifter style lights? like the really quick blinking? also, how do you change the profiles, like the alternating/constant on/5 left-5right etc...?

[Techno]

I actually found them right after I made the post... Does it look like the drifter style lights? like the really quick blinking? also, how do you change the profiles, like the alternating/constant on/5 left-5right etc...?
well thye only 2 lights blink you can add more lights and configure them to flash also it has 4 modes on off slow flash and fast flash it has a button you can control it with

[warrenf]

hi guys, im thinking of getting a mini rc thing... but im totally confused on what to get. i intend getting three cars so that i can race with friends, and maybe get into competitions. whats the difference from kyosho mini-z's and the xmods? other than price? i know kyosho is a world renown brand.. and if i go with kyosho, which one do you reccomend? will the 2WD hard to drive? thanks much appreciated.

[Bornondabayou]

I have been into Mini -Z's for about 5 years now. I have about 10 cars in all. I would suggest that you start with the MR02 chassis w/ the mid motor mount. The rear mounts are also good but, tend to understeer or push in corners when driven hard in a racing situation. These cars are capable of about 20 mph with an X - Speed motor upgrade and do about 15 mph in stock form. Tires are the #1 most important thing when it comes to dialing in the handling on these little race cars. Of course, it all depends on the surface that you run on. I race on commercial carpet @ the LHS and run the softest rear wide tires available usually a 8 or 10 degree shore or compound. Tires are available in 8 degree all the way up to 50 degree compounds. 8 being softest and 50 the hardest. The cars come stock with 50 degree rubber all around. A good starting point for racing is 10 wide rears and 30 semi wide fronts for carpet. The next two upgrades would be bearings and then a ball differential. These are not necessary to race and have fun, but the plastic bearings will soon wear out and the ball diff wil make the cars handle better around the corners. The x - mods are OK. People that I race with that started with an X mod, soon purchased a Mini - Z in order to be competitive. The Mini-Z's are just a better design. IMHO.

[warrenf]

thanks for your quick response. have other questions, sorry to ask, but i read about five pages from the forum and did not get what i needed, what about the mini - z AWD? they seem more interesting?.. i intend racing on ceramic tiles if this is possible.. i agree kyosho means quality. what is F.E.T amp? and what s the difference btw the MR-02/MR-015 and the i series? thanks i appreciate..

[Bornondabayou]

The AWD Mini - Z is a great car. I have one that has been highly moddified. In fact the only thing left on it from the original car is the main PCB. If you run this car with anything other than the stock motor, the drive train components will need to be upgraded. I put an X - Speed motor in mine when I first got it and after one run, the outdrives began slipping. The car will go about 10 mph right out of the box w/ the stock motor. The motor also gets really hot because of the AWD. Mine has alloy everything including the motor mounts and clip that holds the motor in. Also the battery clip is alloy. These alloy bits really aid in temperature control. If your racing surface is ceramic tile, which does not have very much grip, then the AWD car will be a fun little ride right out of the box.
These racers use FET's in the speed controls on the main PCB. An FET is a field effect transistor and the type found on the Mini-Z is configured as an 8 pin chip. There are two of them and they work together to send power to the motor. We modify our cars by stacking several of thees chips on top of each other and this increases the surface area for heat dissipation and decreases the on resistance for more tourque. We call this FET stacking. This mod allows the use of very low wind, hot motors. All of my cars have been modified w/ FET stacks except for one that I use for stock racing.
The difference between the MR02 and the MR015 is the battery placement in the chassis side pods. Looking at the front of the car, the MR02 has all 4 Batts lined up like this _ _ _ _ for a lower center of gravity. The MR015 has it's Batts stacked like this = = and allows the use of narrower bodies. The I series cars use a less expensive PCB and different electronics for the steering section and does not have brakes. Forward and reverse only. I never use the brakes anyway :D I hope this helps.
Also ck out this site for way more Mini Z info.

Mini-Z Racer (http://mini-zracer.com/forums/)

[warrenf]

hi, at this stage im biasing for the AWD. based on the fact that it would be good as a starting mini-z. im gettting the thing of the FETs now. Altough that the AWD is slower as you mentioned. As a first car it is more suited IMO. I never owned an electic rc car before, i hope i will manage. im pretty sure i will with help from guys like you mate.. i think i will get two off ebay. Have to decide which body. thanks i appretiate ur help..

[Bornondabayou]

Have fun!! :)

[warrenf]

thanks mate.. will keep you updated!

[GT Freak]

here ya go, the commercial for the mini-z:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=8-6XuwwANb0

[savagekid94]

can mini-z's break easily or as easily as a mini-t t or rc18

[Bornondabayou]

They can break, but are about as sturdy as any other RC vehicle. Keep the body on and don't try to run into things on purpose :P I will say that as for as racing them in an organized event, because of their size and relative speed, they are about the most difficult RC car I have ever driven. I have raced 10th and 12th scale on-road and that was alot easier.
A stock Mini - Z with only an X -speed motor upgrade is capable of about 18 to 20 MPH. Our Modified cars can reach speeds of about 35 mph. That is flat flying for a 1/28th scale vehicle

[bigboots1302]

thanks

[bigboots1302]

what is your favorite class and which is best for a beginner + good starting chassis

[bigboots1302]

ps what mini-z chassis do u recomend i was thinking of the mr-o2

[savagekid94]

how big does a mini-z track need to be

[savagekid94]

can you install a spektrum micro reciever in a mini z

[savagekid94]

are there rechargable batteries avialable for the mini-z

[Bornondabayou]

ps what mini-z chassis do u recomend i was thinking of the mr-o2

The MR02 mid motor mount chassis is the best for a beginning racer. Good first upgrades are the X Speed motor, Bearings, Ball Diff and alloy knuckle arms for strength.

[Bornondabayou]

how big does a mini-z track need to be
I would say the minium lane width should be about 2.5 ft. A good starting size is about 10 X 15 ft

can you install a spektrum micro reciever in a mini z
No

are there rechargable batteries avialable for the mini-z
Yes, AAA NiMh in 700 mah up to 1800mah

[Bornondabayou]

what is your favorite class and which is best for a beginner + good starting chassis

My favorite class is definitley Modified, but not for a beginner. I have about $400 invested in my modified car. It rocks but is a handful!

[Bornondabayou]

For a wealth of knowledge related to all things Mini-Z ck out this site.
http://mini-zracer.com/forums/
It is the #1 forum for Mini-Z's on the web.

[color0]

Hi everyone, first post here... here's my pet project for the MR02 that will hopefully see the shelves sometime soon.

http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/4516/rd0209hok7.jpg

This chassis has the following design features:

- MM configuration for agile handling
- Narrowest battery configuration possible to increase responsiveness
- Dual flex-plate suspension similar to Mini-Z F1
- Compatability with many rear suspension configurations: side springs, tri-shock system, disk damper, oil damper, or any combination of those
- Battery pack placed far more rearward than in Mini-Z MR02
- Adjustable weight bias by shifting battery pack fore and aft
- Electronics plate cinches down on any AAA or lithium-polymer pack that fits
- Unique 3-piece front end allows ride height to be adjusted fully independently of spring preload and front end maintenance without kingpin removal
- Thin fiberglass tierod and electronics plate, lots of Delrin and minimal hardware used in order to keep chassis weight low
- Compatability with many servos and electronics packages
- 98mm wheelbase

Parts included:

- G10 fiberglass chassis pieces: Main chassis, Front lower bulkhead, 0°, -1° and 1° tierods, Electronics plate, Rear body/damper mount, Body mount clips (2), Flex plates (2), Rear pod bottom plate, Rear pod top plate (for disk damper), Rear pod top plate (no disk damper)
- Delrin pieces: 0° caster blocks, servo mounts, tierod horn, standoffs, differential height adjusters (for rear pod; 4 settings)
- Aluminum pieces: Rear pod left and right side plates
- Hardware: Stainless steel screws and nuts

Additional parts required:

- Mini-Z MR015/02 front knuckles, kingpins, springs, spring perches, c-clips, rear ball differential
- Mini-Z MR01/015/02 wheels, tires, bearings
- Micro servo (no wider than 23mm), servo saver
- Receiver and ESC (or combo), compatible transmitter
- Mounting tape for electronics
- 130-size motor, 48dp 2mm shaft pinion
- Battery pack
- Body

Optional parts:

- Extra MR02 front springs and spring perches (for rear end tuning)
- Atomic RM DPSII spare parts set (includes the 3 plastic shock assemblies and 4mm ball nuts)
- Atomic RM DPSII spare spring set
- Atomic AR-071 4.1mm ball nut (for the 3 plastic shocks)
- Disk damper post, friction disks, springs (Atomic, PN Racing, etc.)
- Small 2mm washer (for disk damper)
- Kyosho MR015/02 oil damper or equivalent

Rear end options:

- Side springs (adjustable preload via threaded nuts)
- Side plastic shocks
- Center plastic shock
- Disk damper
- Oil damper
- Any combination of the above



As of today, all the materials are in and I am only waiting on the CNC mill to arrive before I can start making prototypes. The target MSRP for the bare chassis kit is $75 or below, making the MRCG the most affordable high-end pan chassis you'll ever find. Enjoy!

[aemaniac22]

daaannnggggg that thing is sick

[aemaniac22]

do u have a website?

[savagekid94]

how long will 1700Mah batteries last in a mini-z

p.s. that mini-z is amazing who will manufactture it

[color0]

1700mAh = 850mAh x 2. So depending on motor, you're pretty much over 1 hour.

My CNC mill is up and running as of today, so it's testing/dry run, and then prototype time.

[savagekid94]

who will make the car assuming it works well will you start your own company or try to sell to manufactuer

[youngage]

what is the mini z? is it another micro t?

better?

how much is a starter kit for it and is it a car for driving for fun and drifting?

as fast as an tt01
?

[youngage]

umm guys.... which ones is better the mini-z or the micro t?

which one has more potential?

and would i need to buy radio gear and all that stuff for it as well?

or does it come with one
?

[Bornondabayou]

I have both. The Mini -Z comes RTR and is great for On Road Racing. the Micro T is also a Blast for indoor bashing and jumping.

Look here for everything you would like to know about the Mini-Z:

http://mini-zracer.com/forums/

[aemaniac22]

I just got the four wheel drive skyline!
first day i was putting the antenna on and it backed into my chair and the rear spoiler phlew off

[aemaniac22]

i super glewedit on thougfh

[aemaniac22]

1700mAh = 850mAh x 2. So depending on motor, you're pretty much over 1 hour.

My CNC mill is up and running as of today, so it's testing/dry run, and then prototype time.

whats it called?

\

[color0]

Greyscale Racing MRCG. Coming soon. ;)

[fastharry]

ya know..I was thinking of building a mini z, 02 mm....I go to 2 hobby shops, and both have the same answers.....

everything is on B/o with kyosho USA......no lambo bodies, parts, etc....

big blow out sale on 01's from kyosho......not a good sign.....

go to their website, and that has to be the worst web site I have ever run across.......very basic info.......nothing in the store, bad descriptions on what they do have, no option parts listed..


are they doing the tamiya routine?....

[aemaniac22]

I agree about the website thing. at the place where i got mine, they let me test drive them and i had good lap times and good lines with the ma-010 but being so expensive, i tested out a mr-o2.I couldn't get nearly as close as a was before. they have an elevated part on the track and when i came off it it would spin out. If u have it on order or could avoid it and have the extra money get the awd.
:D good luck,
aemaniac22

[aemaniac22]

im down to a 10.06 lap on the track:D

[fastharry]

I agree about the website thing. at the place where i got mine, they let me test drive them and i had good lap times and good lines with the ma-010 but being so expensive, i tested out a mr-o2.I couldn't get nearly as close as a was before. they have an elevated part on the track and when i came off it it would spin out. If u have it on order or could avoid it and have the extra money get the awd.
:D good luck,
aemaniac22


I'm gonna go with with a m 02.....M/M with a 94 mm wb( thanks to PN).....unless, of course, I keep getting bad vibes about kyosho america.....

[fastharry]

I'm gonna go with with a m 02.....M/M with a 94 mm wb( thanks to PN).....unless, of course, I keep getting bad vibes about kyosho america.....





well, after visiting the THIRD hobby shop in northern NJ......and getting the same story about kyosho America, lack of parts, and lack of support, I'm holding off buying a mini z....after hearing about how bad great planes was handling Kyosho, they seem GREAT next to whoever is in charge at the USA headquarters.....

[aemaniac22]

my lhs is bs,
i didnt know like anything about mini-zs and they sold me the wrong stuff.
the dudes there dont know or dont observe to give me the right drift rings, gave me 10.5s instead of 8s

[aemaniac22]

hey and color zero, where can i get one of those greyscale things?

[aemaniac22]

has any1 herd of the a drag racing mini-z
thinking bout makin one

[color0]

I've been working on the prototypes lately... a teaser of the first batch, which is decent but could be better:

http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/866/millingpe4.jpg

[aemaniac22]

can i get the first one?

[Bash_N_Thrash]

Anybody looking to sell their Overland? A bunch of guys I race Mini-Z's with race them and I am looking for one. I dont need the radio just a chassis and body that runs. Dont care how ugly it is as long as its solid. Send me PM or email if you got one you are looking to dump. Also interested in F1 car and MR02 parts. Thanks.

[dogbreathracing]

Mini-Z cars and dummies don't mix.....

Crash Test Dummies II (http://www.youtube.com/v/h7AqLINciGU)

[color0]

DBR... random, lol...

I got the first proto done.

http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/9356/rmproto002lo5.jpg

http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/4248/rmproto001ql4.jpg

http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/3913/rmproto003nl4.jpg

http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/1126/rmproto004xr1.jpg

[color0]

Double post, yikes. But it must be posted! With the exception of a battery pack and a bearing set, MRCG #001 is ready to go! ;)

http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/7784/rmproto013sez7.jpg

[aemaniac22]

can u use a novak spy in that? mini-z motors?? Battery packs?? transmitter?

[color0]

Novak Spy you may need to stack next to or above the receiver (unless you use a really small receiver), but it will fit with some ingenuity. Micro-T and Mini-Z boards fit the most easily.

4AAA packs are the optimal setup, but a bunch of lithium polymers (Thunder Power 2S 730mAh comes to mind) will fit comfortably.

Transmitter? Whatever matches the receiver that you can fit in this car...? :confused:

[aemaniac22]

sry, but servos? and how much?

[color0]

Whatever fits. Hitec HS-50 in mine, but there are a bunch of Futaba servos at around the same size.

Your box of allowance is about 23 (width) x 11m (height). Just don't make the servo horn jut out like nuts and any micro servo within those two confines will fit.

Hope that helps. ;)

[RS4rally1124]

okay thats freaking awseome... wnat to create a parts list of which kyosho parts are actually left from a stock mr02... id love to buy one and do this but thinking it may be cheaper to just build it from scratch.. loving it.

jt

[aemaniac22]

hi

its almost christmas time and i want a race setup for my awd. wut parts should i ask for? and it would be nice if you could rank what i should get first (the essentials
thanks

[wess]

Will you be racing in a stock class? Either way, bearings are the first must-have... Second, good tires to suit the track you'll be racing on. Then you'll want a motor, such as a Kyosho X speed, or an Atomic Stock R as well as an aluminum heatsink motor clip.

of course you should be running some good batteries like intellects or powerex (among others) as well as a charger and discharger to keep all the cells equalized.

The stock diffs are great for racing (no slip) and the stock suspension is very neutral, although you can pick up a shim set from Atomic or PN to lower/preload your suspension. Hope this keeps you busy over the holidays :D

[aemaniac22]

Thanks,
At my lhs, im the only guy who comes in regularly to race mini-z's. I race with the carismas and they have no rules. With the intelects, what charger should i use? And is the atomi sas shocks sytem ok?
Also, shoud i put in 1 ways cuz my diffs dont lock so well?
Camber, toe-in? Anything else? ya know, its christmas

[aemaniac22]

Sry, double post
The track isnt a rcp. ALso, good racing bodies?

[wess]

the Powerex/Maha c9000 is a great charger/discharger... It can do individual cells which is important for AAAs in mini-zs because the cells don't deplete evenly.

SAS is good if you maintain it after every 2-3 runs (clean, grease, make sure it's smooth) however I've just recently switched back to stock and prefer the consistency. a one-way is only to replace the front diff (never the rear), it makes the car harder to drive (hard to use brakes) but if you practice a lot, it can be faster throughout the turns. I like the stock gear diffs because they don't slip like ball diffs (and they're dirt cheap 8-10 bucks vs. $20-30).

You're saying your stock gear diffs don't lock well? It's often the plastic outdrives that have stripped inside (pull them out to check, usually the longer side strips). Buy the 3racing aluminum outdrives, they're under $10 for front and rears.

Good bodies? I'd say the nsx, but it requires some trimming. Some good race bodies that don't require trimming are the 350zs, sc430, f360 gtc, f430. Try running the car with stock suspension before messing with camber/toe-in toe-out. The stock suspension is quite easy to drive if you have a good set of tires :D

[aemaniac22]

how do you get the 360 and 430s to work? I didnt know the would fit on a awd.I have a Fairlady-z. Also, how do you change t=the transmitter(stock ko prop is wimopy) and i got a 2pl

[wess]

Oops just remembered you may need a laydown crystal adapter, the 360 and 430 just barely clear the standup crystal. As for the side mounts on the body (L shape), some require you to cut a few millimeters off of one side if it's too long, it takes 2 secs with a pair of scissors. The fairlady should fit directly, although you may need to cut the one side of the side body mounts (L shape things inside the body).

Is your 2pl AM or FM? If it's AM 27mhz, you should be able to drop in the crystal and drive. If not, you won't be able to use it. In most cases, people either use the 3pk or KO ex1/ex10 because they accept the orang