View Full Version : Ofna Hyper 7 Forum v1.0
NitroOwnsYou
02-07-2002, 04:16 PM
What did the kit cost you? I dont know of any places thats sells them. Maybe my Hyper 7 could use some company! :D
AEAddict
02-07-2002, 04:44 PM
Hey Pitstain ...
what's the 9.5 Pro cost !?!?!?
I think I want that instead of the Hyper 7 Pro..
Lost Racer1
02-07-2002, 06:39 PM
Anyone know if the shocks will fit the Hyper 7?
NitroOwnsYou
02-07-2002, 06:45 PM
I think its around $650, but I could be wrong! My Hyper 7 absolutely flew with my hyper .21! I cant wait to see it with the JP .21 :D
AE only thing with the 9.5 is that I dont know who carries parts/kit to order replacements to it. So for availability on parts this would pose a suck problem! I like the fact that I can get hyper 7 parts almost anywhere.
Im still keeping my Hyper 7!
BTW I was running my H7 in the snow, and jumped it about 10 ft high with no breakage at all! The temp outside is about 15 degrees. I landed this hard a few times, and it holds up well so far. AE I dont think that the 9.5 is going to give you a huge performance boost over the H7 if any at all.Actually I think the H7 pro has more eyecandy, and has a better layout. BTW theres alot of similar aluminum and graphite.
The only thing that I really like about the 9.5 over the H7 pro are the threaded shock bodies.
Jr
NitroOwnsYou
02-07-2002, 06:48 PM
they look like they would! Im going to order some for my MP!
Jr
AEAddict
02-07-2002, 08:02 PM
Hey there NitroOwnsYou.
How's you doin ?
I'm looking into the Pro 9.5 because that's the FULL ON race buggy from Ofna. It's the "top-o'-the-line" buggy.
$600 !? Ouch.. I dont think it's worth THAT MUCH. I think it's got the Orange Aluminum and different wheels, and different turnbuckles.. but that looks like IT.
I dunno.. I'm soo stuck between the 2 right now... I dunno what to do!!
I like the 9.5 Pro because of the orange.. EVERYONE uses Purple or blue stuff!
heh
and the yellow wheels & wing KICK too...
PITSTAIN RC
02-07-2002, 08:34 PM
You want some of the good stuff well here
http://www.networktechniques.com/pitstain/images/95/bits/P0005799.jpg http://www.networktechniques.com/pitstain/images/95/bits/P0005800.jpg http://www.networktechniques.com/pitstain/images/95/bits/P0005801.jpg http://www.networktechniques.com/pitstain/images/95/bits/P0005802.jpg http://www.networktechniques.com/pitstain/images/95/bits/P0005803.jpg http://www.networktechniques.com/pitstain/images/95/bits/P0005804.jpg http://www.networktechniques.com/pitstain/images/95/bits/P0005805.jpg
PITSTAIN RC
02-07-2002, 08:35 PM
more
http://www.networktechniques.com/pitstain/images/95/bits/P0005806.jpg http://www.networktechniques.com/pitstain/images/95/bits/P0005807.jpg http://www.networktechniques.com/pitstain/images/95/bits/P0005808.jpg http://www.networktechniques.com/pitstain/images/95/bits/P0005809.jpg http://www.networktechniques.com/pitstain/images/95/bits/P0005810.jpg
PITSTAIN RC
02-07-2002, 08:39 PM
and more
http://www.networktechniques.com/pitstain/images/95/bits/hnjs03.jpg http://www.networktechniques.com/pitstain/images/95/bits/hnjs04.jpg http://www.networktechniques.com/pitstain/images/95/bits/hnjs05.jpg http://www.networktechniques.com/pitstain/images/95/bits/hnjs14.jpg http://www.networktechniques.com/pitstain/images/95/bits/hnjs15.jpg
PITSTAIN RC
02-07-2002, 08:39 PM
http://www.networktechniques.com/pitstain/images/95/bits/hnjs16.jpg http://www.networktechniques.com/pitstain/images/95/bits/hnjs23.jpg http://www.networktechniques.com/pitstain/images/95/bits/hnjs25.jpg http://www.networktechniques.com/pitstain/images/95/bits/hnjs26.jpg
AEAddict
02-07-2002, 08:42 PM
Pitstain... are all those parts STOCK !?!?!?!
which color are the stock ones? the Orange.. or the "tan" ? ..
Also.. what does the PRO version COST ? Please.. I'm trying to make up my mind....
and I can't find the PRO version on Tower Hobbies...
please tell me the PRICE of it !!
thank u !
:D
PITSTAIN RC
02-07-2002, 08:53 PM
well you cant buy a Pro in the usa.....i got mine from RC Model Cars in australia http://www.rcmodelcars.com/
the stock parts for the NON-Pro are the orange ones
E-mail Them for a price info@rcmodelcars.com
oh heres some more cool parts
http://www.networktechniques.com/pitstain/images/95/DSC00090.JPG http://www.networktechniques.com/pitstain/images/95/DSC00103.JPG http://www.networktechniques.com/pitstain/images/95/DSC00096.JPG
AEAddict
02-07-2002, 09:04 PM
Ok.... the orange ones are the ones I wanted...
why did U go buy all those carbon fiber AND the Tan ones?
Ok.... are the Chassis Braces in the front and rear STOCK ORANGE? ...
are those shiny CVA's stock?
is it stock with 4-brakes?
or are the braces the cheesy PLASTIC ones like on the Ofna Page?
.... please lemmie' know..
PITSTAIN RC
02-07-2002, 09:15 PM
AE
What i bought was pretty much saying give me everything, as there is not an official PRO kit out i got the stock one with the extra parts, so when you order there may be a PRO available or just pick and choose what you want.
yes quad brakes are stock and they are great, no fade at all after hours of driving
please e-mail rc model cars for info they do a great price on it.
PITSTAIN RC
02-07-2002, 09:18 PM
i got the graphite and 7075 cnc parts to see which are better and because they both were so sweet i couldnt help myself
this 9.5 is more tricked out and just a competitive as a 7.5 kanai
AEAddict
02-07-2002, 09:47 PM
errrg...
hmmm...
PITSTAIN RC
02-07-2002, 10:04 PM
hmmmm?? :rolleyes:
AEAddict
02-07-2002, 10:09 PM
I dunno..
so do the chassis braces... the orange ones come with it ? ...
PITSTAIN RC
02-07-2002, 10:11 PM
they will be stock on the Pro but the RTR ofna version will have plastic i think
PITSTAIN RC
02-08-2002, 12:16 AM
By the way the gears on these torsens (spur and rings) are titanium nitride coated hardened high carbon steel
http://www.networktechniques.com/pitstain/images/95/DSC00105.JPG
AEAddict
02-08-2002, 07:35 AM
Yes.. and those Torsen's are also like $130 EACH.
Thats rediculous..
I think I'll get the H7Pro... because it even comes standard with the center Torsen.... and the wrenches.. and the carry bag.. etc.
NitroOwnsYou
02-08-2002, 07:42 AM
Right on AE! :D I think the H7 pro is just as competitive as that buggy and the kanai. It comes with full set of 6 cva's, dual disk brakes for front and rear, and yada yada yada!
Jr
AEAddict
02-08-2002, 07:48 AM
:D <---- NitroOwnsYou :D <-------AEAddict
:D All together
hehehehe
NitroOwnsYou
02-08-2002, 07:52 AM
AE Horizon hobby had the 9.5 for 675! LOL I own all ofna and wouldnt pay 675 for that buggy! :D
Jr
NitroOwnsYou
02-08-2002, 07:55 AM
blah now if I could only get some diff oil and some 30% fuel Ill be flying around the streets! C-mon ace I need it :(
AEAddict
02-08-2002, 04:34 PM
I found the H7 Pro for $439.99 @ Ace Hobbies ...
is that an ok place to order from ? ..
NitroOwnsYou
02-08-2002, 04:40 PM
Yes AE the guys there are great to work with! Ive bought almost all my parts/kits from them. Ive called them on questions ive had, and they know their stuff :D Well my dif oil is in, time to finish it off.
Jr
AEAddict
02-08-2002, 04:45 PM
Sweeeettt...
that price is like $50.00 cheaper than anyone else too ..
NitroOwnsYou
02-08-2002, 05:04 PM
AE try this guy before you go with ACE. I got a great deal on my Monster pirate from him. Speedzone RC 1-866-590-0763 Ask for mike! Tell him the guy that just ordered a Monster Pirate from NH sent you. Or use my name. Between me and a friend from NH, we ordered a bunch of stuff through him. He shipps fast and is located in tenn i think. He quoted me 439.99 a few weeks ago on the phone, but now he might do better than that!
Jr Valente
Serius Black
02-08-2002, 05:22 PM
Pitstain - So now that you've got a $1500 rolling chassis, you are the fastest guy in your state, right?
Lost Racer1
02-08-2002, 05:48 PM
$1500??? You're kidding right?
PITSTAIN RC
02-08-2002, 06:06 PM
heheh serius black, no the guy at the hobby shop with the $3000 T-maxx is a bit faster but im trying to catch him. :)
by the way scroll up and take a peek at what gets it rolling, the Collari super comp, if you own a buggy try one of these motors they are insanely fast.
PITSTAIN RC
02-08-2002, 06:18 PM
no wonder im broke
NitroOwnsYou
02-08-2002, 06:21 PM
When my H7 pro is done, ide run ya! :D
BTW I got my H7 rtr to hang a nice wheelie!
I wish I didnt let my parents borrow my digi camera =/
Jr
AEAddict
02-08-2002, 07:42 PM
GRRR!!! I wish my stupid taxes would come back faster!!!!
then I could order my H7Pro !! AHHHH !!!!
making me ANGWY !! eheh
NitroOwnsYou
02-08-2002, 07:56 PM
Heh, taxes!
I gotta buy a diamond ring with mine :rolleyes:
I wish I coulda got my Veteq and a sweet engine. Oh well....
Jr
AEAddict
02-08-2002, 09:31 PM
Girls are too expensive... lol
they're good for... well.. I think U know which activity... :p
PITSTAIN RC
02-08-2002, 11:00 PM
my girl is working tomorrow so i get to stay home and play with my toys http://www.networktechniques.com/pitstain/images/95/DSC00112.JPG
nitroownsyou Im from TN and speedzone is the track I race at Mike is a good man.ae addict Mike has a h7 pro on ebay right now and the reserve is set at 399.99 now thats a good deal.At the bottem of the page he said one of his racers built one and every body swarmed it that was my h7.
AEAddict
02-09-2002, 08:43 AM
Br5, that's an awesome price!! but.. I dunno if I trust some of those E-Bay auctions that say "new in box" etc.. and they've already been opened... etc..
I'm going to order mine from Ace Hobbies the day my taxes come back (anyday now!) ehehehe
:D
NitroOwnsYou
02-09-2002, 09:24 AM
AE call him up! He will take care of you man. Ive ordered through him w/o a hitch! He is really friendly. I wish he was here though, cuz my LHS's suck =/ Believe me! Call him up and ask him about the guys from NH! He remembers his customers! Just call and ask him about the H7 pro. He will totally make you feel comfortable once you hear his voice.
All I ask is you call him, you dont have to order from him.
I love Ace, but I feel that with Mike its more of a personal transaction. Its like doing buisness wiat a good friend. Either 2 places will do you well though. Im just trying to share the purchases and support both. They do deserve it!
Jr
Hey guys are any of you running a europa s7 ? Or has anybody ever had one ive got one on my h7 and was wondering if its worth keeping or should I get a ws7 or c4?Is a c4 a bottem end engine or a top end engine?Im waiting to run the s7 till I get a few opinions.
tarvymoto
02-09-2002, 12:41 PM
What is the best( higher HP..ect ) .21 pullstart engine? I want to get into 1/8 scale buggy racing but might do a pullstart to keep it simple.I have a starter box setup for my 1/10 scale cars and trucks , but don't feel like converting it to 1/8 scale every time I want to use the buggy. Remeber , I do plan on racing so I want the very best pullstart i can find. Thanks Travis
Is there even a pullstart that can hang w/ some of the faster racing engines?I may have to get a bumper box for the buggy too:(
AEAddict
02-09-2002, 07:56 PM
Hey guys... what is Mikes phone number @ his hobby shop ?
I couldn't find his auction on E-Bay...
NitroOwnsYou
02-09-2002, 08:18 PM
Originally posted by NitroOwnsYou
AE try this guy before you go with ACE. I got a great deal on my Monster pirate from him. Speedzone RC 1-866-590-0763 Ask for mike! Tell him the guy that just ordered a Monster Pirate from NH sent you. Or use my name. Between me and a friend from NH, we ordered a bunch of stuff through him. He shipps fast and is located in tenn i think. He quoted me 439.99 a few weeks ago on the phone, but now he might do better than that!
Jr Valente
Here AE. Again! :D
ae addict that hyper 7 on ebay is gone i dont know if it sold or not.
br5's buggy.....its actually purple but shows up blue on the camera!
Scomp87
02-09-2002, 09:46 PM
It looks as if my choices have narrowed down to the 9.5 or the H 7,
Where can I get either one?
NitroOwnsYou
02-10-2002, 10:23 AM
Noone I know of carries the 9.5 but the H7 pro theres speedzone scroll up for # or go HERE (http://www.speedzoneraceway.com/store.asp)
Or theres Ace Hobbies go HERE (http://www.ace-hobbies.com)
Jr
AEAddict
02-10-2002, 02:25 PM
hey Nitro...
WASSSSSAP !? :D
grrrr.... I so hate waiting... I'm sitting here twiddling my thumbs... wishing I got my damn taxes back. Grrrr...
I was going to go pick up my V01B today.. but my dad was like "dude.. just wait.. you can't use it anyway.."
so.. I'm just sitting here... wondering... rofl..
:rolleyes:
winning edge designs
02-10-2002, 04:33 PM
AE,Superior has the Hyper7 Pro for $439 as well,they do Mail order,but it isn't thier specialty. $439 is a fantastic walk in price!
They also stock parts and hop-ups,engines etc. Give em a call at 407.834.9299 Mon-Sat,10:30-7pm eastern........Jim
AEAddict
02-10-2002, 05:18 PM
Awesome...
thanks a bunch of guys........
:D :rolleyes: :D :cool: :p
heheheeh
Erggggg...!! Ahh! as soon as me taxes come back I'll be gettin my H7Pro .. 8-) droppin me a V01B engine in it....
NitroOwnsYou
02-10-2002, 06:00 PM
I got mine back! :D Gotta love telefile! I direct deposited it also!
Jr
AEAddict
02-10-2002, 07:50 PM
hmmm... I did mine the "electronic transfer" method or what ever... lol..
they said "2-3 weeks max"
so.... it'll be here... heh..
98vols
02-10-2002, 09:12 PM
Out of all the 9.5 stuff shown the only things that I really would like to get to go on my hyper 7 are the shocks, the brake linkage(with the adjuster) and the clutch set-up I like the wrap around spring. I have been looking for a similar brake linkage set-up for weeks anyone got any ideas???
bad andy
02-11-2002, 10:58 AM
Kyosho has the best brake linkage for 1/8 buggies. Since at least the mp5, they have used knurled collars on both the front and rear brake rods (each threaded into the servo arm) that will allow you to adjust f/r brake bias extremely easily and precisely. It is similar to the HONG NOR setup, except that the HONG NOR setup allows you to adjust brake bias for f/r together, not seperately. I will post pics of my setup later when I get home, but for now here's what I did. Get some threaded rods from your LHS. You want large enough threaded ends to thread into the two mounts on the brake end of the servo arm. You don't want these to slide freely through the servo arm's brake rod mounts. Thread the rods into these mounts and cut them to the same size as per the H7 instructions. Next, get 2 knurled collars (perhaps from kyosho parts-sorry I do not know part #'s) and place these on the rods you just threaded into the servo arm between the car's brake levers (above the center diff) and the servo arm. Set everything else as the H7 instructions describe. Now, when you want to precisely adjust F/R brake bias, all you need to do is turn each knurled collar to the desired point of brake engagement. Sorry I don't have pics now but I'll get them later. I hope you can follow my above directions in the meantime.
AEAddict
02-11-2002, 05:48 PM
Meanwhile back at the ranch...
what's goin on ?
my REAL car got friggin' HIT TODAY..
I'm really angry... and.. yeah...
bad andy
02-11-2002, 07:01 PM
98VOLS, here is the pic of my brake setup I was talking about. Hope it helps...
http://www.myplanet.net/martyr2/brakes.jpg
AEAddict
02-11-2002, 07:55 PM
hey Bad Andy...
I might have to try that when I get my H7 Pro :D
nolanr0413
02-11-2002, 08:23 PM
I am planning on buying a hyper 7 pro and i was wondering about top speed. how is acceleration compared to a rc10gt. i have 2 gts and was wondering what i can expect.
winning edge designs
02-11-2002, 09:52 PM
nolan,the 1/8th scale buggies are far more "Nasty" coming into the power then any 1/10th truck!........The trucks are fun to wheel,sliding and drifting etc,but the 1/8ths are just plain Wicked!....you can use a sport .21 engine and have WAY more power then the Top O' the line .12 engines!...........As far as top speed,expect about 35-40 mph with stock gearing. Probably not any faster then a well set-up gas truck,but it will get there WAY quicker!.....Jim
AEAddict
02-11-2002, 10:15 PM
Nolan...
we clocked my friends Inferno MP 7.5 at 50 MPH w/ stock gearing... we drove it along side my REAL CAR...
then again.. he's got a O.S RZ-Vo1B engine in it...
that engine's an ANIMAL.
I'm putting an 01B when I get my H7 Pro too..
and I'm going to get a 1-tooth larger clutchbell
winning edge designs
02-12-2002, 11:25 PM
A/Eaddict,true point....A sport engine will make an average of 1.6 to 1.9 hp,while spinning in a usuable rpm range of 28-32,000. A racing engine may go as high as 2.5 to 3 or more hp,while twisting at an eye watering 36-42,000 rpm!......more Rpm,more top speed. I've gotten my Hyper 7 up and over the 50 mph range,with my RB C4 buggy engine,but the stock clutch was slipping,so a better clutch would probably add mph to that number?!....I am using a 14 tooth clutch bell,the stock one was 13 tooth I believe?....................Jim
AEAddict
02-13-2002, 09:58 AM
hmmm..
Yeah.. I was gunna' drop a 14 tooth... and eventually TRY a 15 tooth clutch bell..
the V01B has enough power to pull a 15 tooth ratio.
:D
I do know that these things are capable of well over 60 MPH though...
It's ALL in the gearing.. and of course.. what motor you buy.
The "usable" power of the V01B is something like 39,000 RPMS @ 2.45 HP. That's a good chunk.
I know that the Rex's and crap make a smidge more... but you can't get their parts ANYWHERE!!! I like O.S's ... U can get their crap at every hobby shop in the world practically...
I mean.. if a Piston & Sleeve for the V01 is $114.99 .. what the hell is it for a "Italian Racer!?" !!!
LongRat
02-13-2002, 01:00 PM
The H7 with the 15T clutch bell will have to do 37,500RPM to get to 50MPH. I have measured the rollout. I think that is a pretty tall order under load. However, I have 2 engines (Hyper 21's), both geared with 15T bells in the same car... hopefully I will be able to hit 50, VERY quickly! :eek:
MotoMaxx
02-13-2002, 02:30 PM
The stocker is a 14t I just put an Ofna vented 13t in mine with my RB WS7 and when it's tuned right it'll do wheelies, I also added a set of Mugen Aluminum clutch shoes and 1.1 springs, that is a real nice set-up. Plus you can see those Alum. shoes through the bell and that adds ooh, ahh factor... :D
PITSTAIN RC
02-13-2002, 02:41 PM
what are the part numbers and where do you get the alluminum mugen clutch shoes and the 1.1 springs im interested in giving the setup a try on my 9.5
AEAddict
02-13-2002, 04:30 PM
g00d luck finding 9.5 parts.. :rolleyes:
MotoMaxx
02-14-2002, 09:35 AM
I got them at my LHS, I don't know that part #'s. These are nice for running RB engines because the are lighter than even the GS shoes and the springs are heavier. They engage later and that seems to be when the RB engines start making power.
PITSTAIN RC
02-14-2002, 10:04 AM
9.5 parts are easy to get i just call up and they are here in 2 - 3 days................ BUT dont have to worry about parts like you hyper 7 guys since the 9.5 is built like a tank. :D
AEAddict
02-14-2002, 01:27 PM
Looks to me like the 9.5 is a Hyper 7 Pro w/o the carbon fiber, and some orange aluminum.
nolanr0413
02-14-2002, 01:32 PM
will the engine mounts for the hyper 7 pro work with both pull start and non pull start engines? If anyone with a gt and a hyper 7 pro and has a pic of them next to each other post the pic. I want to see the size diff between the gt and the 7 pro. Thanks please post a pic and answer my question.
winning edge designs
02-14-2002, 10:32 PM
Is someone breaking Hyper 7 parts?....I've only ever broken one part,a front A-arm. And that was in a head on collision,full steam down the straight away,a Mugen car jumped onto the straight,also under power and hit my left front wheel dead center with his bumper! We slid out the hinge pin and slid it back into the hole,inside the cracked arm and I was able to go back out with the fractured arm even!..........Try that with any other Competitive $400 1/8th scale car in the world!..Wait,there are no others,haha!...................:),Jim
NitroOwnsYou
02-15-2002, 07:48 AM
Heh all I broke was the rear hinge pin plastic holder on a mid air collision with a telophone pole at about 40 mph! Not a bad thing in my mind!
Jr
I just called ofna to get part numbers and I asked about 9.5 shocks they said hyper 7 shocks were better so I wouldnt go that rought if anybody was thinking about it.
PITSTAIN RC
02-15-2002, 03:49 PM
ofna said hyper 7 shocks are better because they dont have any 9.5 shocks to sell you otherwise it might be a different story
Lost Racer1
02-15-2002, 04:25 PM
Originally posted by AEAddict
Looks to me like the 9.5 is a Hyper 7 Pro w/o the carbon fiber, and some orange aluminum.
You noticed that too huh? :D
And some subtle differences in the radio box..
I'd like to see one in action before passing judgement..
AEAddict
02-15-2002, 05:15 PM
yeah... hehehe..
O well.. I'm still going for the Hyper 7 Pro..
I ain't dissing Pitstain's 9.5 .. that's a BADASS car ... but.. I just think I'm going with the H7Pro anyway...
cuz the parts redibility isn't that bad for the 7 Pro around here...
RCtinkerman
02-15-2002, 05:56 PM
From reading this thread, sounds like the Hyper 7 is a Phat Buggy!
I was considering getting one. I read the March RCCA article, sounds like this is best thing since the 7.5PRO without the radio, servo and cost. :eek: :p
AEAddict
02-15-2002, 06:30 PM
Damn straight Tinkerman ! :D
Still waitin' on my taxes to come back so I can get mine !!! ehehe
Lost Racer1
02-15-2002, 06:33 PM
don't get me wrong, Pitstains 9.5 looks absolutely ballistic! Just have to keep an eye out for parts..Ace just barely started having actual parts available for the Hyper 7.. everytime I would go there for parts they'd have to pull them from other kits :D Although its only been twice..thats enough for me to figure out that parts are just now becoming readily available :) good luck to Pitstain on that cool buggy.
AEAddict
02-15-2002, 07:31 PM
Pull the parts from other kits !? HUH !? ..
does that mean If i order then I have the chance of getting a FLUKE kit with a bunch of missing parts?
I'll be ordering from ACE... because they're like $50 cheaper than anyone else..
NitroOwnsYou
02-15-2002, 07:57 PM
no AE, But I do know of people buying kits with the missing parts at a discount! You will be fine! Tinkerman my H7 Pro is done being built, and Ill have pics up tomorrow night I hope! It looks sweet. I only got the linkages and body left!
BTW I got a Crowd pleaser body. It should look good!
Jr
winning edge designs
02-15-2002, 11:12 PM
The reason the two cars lok so similar is they are both copies of the Kyosho 7.5. Ofna had two companies make a version,Hong Nor made the 9.5 and Hoa bao made the Hyper 7......What I like about the Hyper 7 is,it has adjustable rear toe-in without buying other parts. It uses a set-up similar to the Mugen car in back and the Kyosho car in front. Best of both worlds, in my opinion...That and the Hyper 7 pro is about $200 cheaper then the 9.5 pro from what i've seen so far. Is that about right? price wise?......:),Jim
Nitromethane
02-16-2002, 09:56 AM
"Ofna had two companies make a version"????
OFNA has nothing to do with it.
The are just the US distributers and only sell what they get.
That's why OFNA knows nothing about the cars they have.
Ho Bao and Hong Nor have been making cars long before OFNA came along, and they make alot more cars that OFNA carries, and sell alot more to other distributers across the globe.
Both the Ho Bao Hyper 7 and the Hong Nor Speed 9.5 are great buggies, with a more competitive edge going to the Speed 9.5.
Hong Nor has been making trophey winning buggies for quite a while now.
winning edge designs
02-16-2002, 10:12 PM
OK,I was told incorrect information then. I am aware that Ho Bao and Hong Nor make cars on thier own. I was informed that they were contracted to make these cars for Ofna and they weren't available thru any other companies. If they are, what companies also sell these exact cars and how much are they. I've purchased kits and accessories overseas before,i'm sure it wouldn't be a problem.........Jim
NitroOwnsYou
02-16-2002, 11:57 PM
Originally posted by Nitromethane
Both the Ho Bao Hyper 7 and the Hong Nor Speed 9.5 are great buggies, with a more competitive edge going to the Speed 9.5.
Hong Nor has been making trophey winning buggies for quite a while now.
I am really curious what the COMPETITIVE edge is with the 9.5, and why isnt it the MORE popular buggy? I know of only a handful of people who when I asked them about the 9.5 didnt say who and what is that! Im not putting down the 9.5, actually I think I will buy one and do a side by side comparison.
Jr
PITSTAIN RC
02-17-2002, 03:12 AM
nitromethane is totally correct HONG NOR and Ho Bao are independant companies that make the cars and sell them to distributors all over the world.
Example, Great Planes AKA Tower Hobbies, is the exclusive us distributor of kyosho products, except the stuf is still called kyosho.
Ofna just relables HONG NOR and Ho Bao to "OFNA", and sell it like that.
By the way I got my 9.5 PRO from RC Model Cars http://www.rcmodelcars.com send them an email if interested.
Also i heard that nitro house http://www.nitrohouse.com just got in 9.5's.
happy driving
NitroOwnsYou
02-18-2002, 12:15 AM
Guys its done! Just need to paint the crowd pleaser body! Pics are HERE! (http://www.radiocontrolzone.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=72316)
Jr
AEAddict
02-18-2002, 06:56 PM
Hey NitroOwnsYou !!!
I ORDERED MY H7PRO TODAY !!! AHHHH!!!! HEHEHEEH!!!
should be here Thursday or Friday !! AHHH!!
WHOOOOO
WHEEEEEEE
YYYEEAAHAHHH!!!!!
FINALLY !!!!!!
NitroOwnsYou
02-18-2002, 10:40 PM
Sweet man! You order diff oil with it? Im trying to figure out how exactly I want my buggy sprayed to fit my H7 Pro. Man what a piece of artwork this buggy is! And remember.... TAKE YOUR TIME! :D the pictures are nice, but theres no real step by step text to read :( Good luck!
Jr
AEAddict
02-19-2002, 07:39 AM
No i didn't order any diff lube. I'll bum some off my friend.. he's got like 5 bottles of the stuff.. 8-)
In assorted weights..
5,000 front, *torsen*, 1,000 Rear sound about right ?
AEAddict
02-19-2002, 05:01 PM
Ok guys...
what's your recommendations on diff fluid weights? what goes where ? (and what goes in the torsen!?)
Also.... how do I go about NOT stripping out the front knuckles...??????
NitroOwnsYou
02-19-2002, 05:17 PM
Its when You are running the buggy you can strip them out. Mine "felt" good when I was threading mine, but we will see how it turns out. I also ordered some Kyosho knuckles for spares. doh I either ran 3k or 5k up front(ill look later), and 1k rear.
Jr
Lost Racer1
02-19-2002, 05:36 PM
A guy I race with uses heely(sp?) coils to stop the stripping out..They seem to work well for him. I have kyosho hardened knuckles on mine.
Use the 3000 or 5000 in the front. I read somewhere that it is inadvisable to put diff oil in your Torsen. There is suppose to be special lube for those. Good Luck.
NitroOwnsYou
02-19-2002, 05:59 PM
Well I opened mine up(torsen) and it was filled with a grease. As to what kind of grease I dont know.
Jr
AEAddict
02-19-2002, 07:23 PM
Would a little bit of CA Glue... or JB Weld on the threads of the Screw before I put the screw in the hole work ?
Shoot... JB Weld fixes anything...
8-)
I just dont wanna F** up the screws if I dont have to
NitroOwnsYou
02-19-2002, 07:45 PM
I honestly dont know AE, but I have yet to change them out on my Hyper 7 rtr, and havent run the beauty yet, so cant comment there. I do have backups listed above. Its a 10 dollar insurance thing AE. You might want to pick up a set or get the CNC'd ones from OFNA. I still have a spare set of belts for my OB4 that Ive yet to use. Its always better to have more and not need it than not have any and need em!
Jr
bad andy
02-19-2002, 08:14 PM
Throughout all my research and constant reading up on the Hyper, no matter what, you will strip the knuckles out at no fault of your own. It seems a manufacturing flaw and they were produced with very slightly oversized threaded holes, which eventually will cause the standard bolts to strip out. I loctited that craaaaaap out of mine when I built the car and it still happened (under relatively 'light' bashing I might add.) OFNA has a set of CNC knuckles that I'm sure are nice but I do not know the part# or price. The economical fix is to use KYOSHO knuckles (#IF006 =10$) or GS knuckles (don't know part#) for the Storm, however I heard people needed to somewhat modify the GS knuckles for a perfect fit, whereas the KYOSHO ones are direct fit. These are the same knuckles Kyosho has been using since the MP5, and I've never had a problem with these in my MP5 in the many years I've attempted to destroy that thing. Easily the most economical method ($.60) is that I've also heard of people replacing the standard bolts that go into the knuckles with (4) 8/32 x 1/2" bolts and sort of self-tapping them in, but I do not know how well that works in the long run...
98vols
02-19-2002, 08:35 PM
There are about 5 guys with the hyper 7 at the track where I run
3 ready to runs and 2 pro kits. all 5 have lost screws out of the
knuckles mine being the worst I didn't have the front swaybar in and when both front knuckles striped out the front arms hand no
support and both cvd's came apart and cracked both front wheels
since then we have switched to the kyosho knuckles which are are better than the ofna ones but me and my dad had lower bolts pull out of them as well but it was about 1 1/2 gallons after replacing them he still runs the kyosho knuckles but I switched over to the dynamite machined knuckles(dyn7806) for the storm which required NO modification to use and are holding up quite nicely. as for the diff fluid use what is listed in the manual it works out great and no fluid goes in the torsion diff. and you might as well go ahead and drill out your shock pistons while your building it to save you from going back into the shocks. drilling out the pistons was covered a few pages back.
AEAddict
02-20-2002, 05:54 PM
Aight guys. Went and picked up the Kyosho front knuckles today. Part # KYOC4400 "Front Knuckle Arm" .
Right one? .. I also picked up a 1000 MAH NiMH reciever pack as well. What kind of run times will I get from this pack ? (it's the Ofna brand Yellow one with purple cells)
Thanks!
NitroOwnsYou
02-20-2002, 06:07 PM
Yes AE mine actually are PT # IF006, but they are the same. As for the pack I dunno. Im waiting for a MRC 959 superbrain charger to come in to order from tower!
Jr
AEAddict
02-20-2002, 06:31 PM
Sweet! heheh! I got the right ones on my first try ! roflmao
:D
hoese37
02-21-2002, 12:41 PM
:D If you want to see a Hyper 7 go fast, you should see mine. it has a Delta Force 8 port. plus custon machiened mounts, now i can use insanly low gear ratios. its awesome.
AEAddict
02-21-2002, 04:28 PM
clock it for me 8-)
Scomp87
02-21-2002, 07:25 PM
jeez, now it seems that every one has one.
did y'all see the 9.5 ad in RCCA?
AEAddict
02-21-2002, 08:42 PM
Yeah. Me no like 9.5 now. Hehehe.. Me like Hyper 7 pro.
I think that the 9.5 is just a Hyper 7 pro with different colored metals.. heh..
that chassis looks inticing though...
NitroOwnsYou
02-21-2002, 11:18 PM
LOL even the Maxx owners like ofna! go to MaxxTraxx 1/8th scale buggies forum (http://pub13.ezboard.com/fmaxximumtraxxasfrm81) for all the good comments on the hyper 7! I dont see a huge difference in the 9.5 and the H7 pro, but I might buy a 9.5 and do a side by side comparison of them both!
Jr
hoese37
02-22-2002, 12:49 PM
i just went to my LHS and got some t-maxx wheels and paddle tires. you should see it in the loose dirt, rooster tails up to 8 ft high and 15 ft. long, no foolin.
AEAddict
02-22-2002, 01:09 PM
Thats fat dude. 8-)
I'm still waiting on the freaking UPS Jerk to deliver mine
I ordered 3rd day shipping.... they take for ever I sware...
hoese37
02-22-2002, 04:02 PM
im gonna clok it this weekend, the speed formula says i should be able to pull 50 mph easily, but i dont know if i have a long enough distance to top out with the low gear ratio, 2.4:1. he he.:eek:
AEAddict
02-22-2002, 04:05 PM
Baboon14's Inferno MP 7.5 hit 50 MPH on completely stock gearing. That was with an O.S RZ-V01B engine....
ummm... I'm dropping a 14 tooth clutch bell in mine within a few weeks or so... I'll have a few to choose from.
Darn UPS guys. God they make me mad.
MotoMaxx
02-22-2002, 04:51 PM
How many tanks are through that O1? I have heard the rear bearings have a tendency to lock up and snap the crankshaft. Sounds fishy to me what with O.S.'s reputation and all.
AEAddict
02-22-2002, 04:58 PM
He's had about 3/4's of a gallon of 30% Nitro through it.
It runs BEUTIFULLY.. and after every 2-3 tanks seems to "open up and make more power"
the rear bearings locking? Umm.. who ever is your information source is smokin' waay too much cheeba
NitroOwnsYou
02-22-2002, 10:21 PM
Almost time to break out my Modified Hyper 7 Pro! I cant wait!
I got some paint for the crowd pleaser body, but cant find a damn royal blue paint anywhere :(
Jr
nolanr0413
02-23-2002, 10:10 AM
Hey i'm getting a ofna/picco 0-1 engine with 2.8 bhp at 43000. Is this engine any good. Its my first .21. I love my gts but i wanted to get something bigger and faster. I'm getting the hyper 7 pro an a lynx 3-d fm radio . Please tell me what you gys thinks of the engine and radio. The last radio i bought was the JR XR-2.
NitroOwnsYou
02-23-2002, 02:53 PM
The Hyper 7 Got some action today! It absolutely flew! I dont have enough yard to "play" with this thing! It jumps with such ease, and hammers on the power with finesse. Im having a problem though. I think Im running 35 wt oil up front, and blk springs, and it just burries its nose down and get way too much steering, and flips onto 2 wheels. Any advice on that? I forgot the front sway bar, so that will be added soon. did you guys use both silver sways or the black in the back? And also AE dont run the hyper knuckles. after about 4 tanks, I lost a screw. And yes everything has been loctited, so it wasnt that! Man Im running my JP really fat on the high, and it is a rocket!
I love this thing! I want to try my JP in my MP :D wheelie bar time!
Oh BTW Ive never seen any engine idle as smoothly as this thing!
Jr
MotoMaxx
02-23-2002, 03:16 PM
Nolan, the Lynx 3D is a great radio, I have one, I also have the Spectra module in it and the Novak XXTra receiver, then you don't ever need to buy crystals. Nice set-up and I guess they sell them as a package now. As for the engine, I don't know I asm running an RB World's S7 it's a real nice mill but it's a little too powerful for the track I am running on now, when the weather breaks though it'll be the way to go at my local track.
AEAddict
02-24-2002, 02:52 PM
WHEEEE !! I got my Hyper7 Pro today!! WAAHHOOOOO !!!!!
I'll take some pictures as soon as my digital camera's battery charges back up!
whoot! Now I gotta go put it together! hehehe... that torsen diff is a work of art!
AE dont get in to big of hurry take your time and do it right .
AEAddict
02-24-2002, 05:08 PM
dont worry Br5, this'll be my 6th KIT to put together... I ain't no N00B at this! heh..
It'll take me well over a good week to get it together.. because I have school during the week.. *grr*
and I have to get started on this MASSIVE Project for U.S History this week too
NitroOwnsYou
02-24-2002, 09:06 PM
Originally posted by AEAddict
dont worry Br5, this'll be my 6th KIT to put together... I ain't no N00B at this! heh..
LOL.... Youll feel like one putting this one together! Ive put together t-maxx, Monster Pirate, RC10GT, and a NOB4, and it still put my knowledge to the test. The directions are somewhat limited, but they work.
Jr
Oh I lost the other knuckle on my Hyper Pro, but now they got the Kyosho treatment!
Now all I need is a new wing from all the cartwheels I did today! The ramp I was jumping off of wasnt a secure ramp, and it would tilt a bit and would roll the buggy. IMO the JP is a lil too much power :D OMG I didnt just say that! Actually I love the power out of it cept when it always wheelies after a jump! :D
AEAddict
02-24-2002, 09:36 PM
WHat JP are you running NitroOwnsYou? What's it rated at ? hehehe...
I still think I'm sticking with the V01B. O.S Reliability!
NitroOwnsYou
02-25-2002, 12:34 AM
Heh well its the Pro 99. Its rated prob in the 2.7+ hp catergory. I never had a os, but this thing is a sweetheart! Its a little more than what a OS costs also. The piston and sleve is probally worth what that OS costs! :D The sleve is a beauty to look at though!
Jr
Lost Racer1
02-25-2002, 10:31 AM
Originally posted by nolanr0413
Hey i'm getting a ofna/picco 0-1 engine with 2.8 bhp at 43000. Is this engine any good. Its my first .21. I love my gts but i wanted to get something bigger and faster. I'm getting the hyper 7 pro an a lynx 3-d fm radio . Please tell me what you gys thinks of the engine and radio. The last radio i bought was the JR XR-2.
The Ofna/Picco 0-1 is a very fast motor lots of power behind it and very competative on the track I ran one for about 2 weeks and my hyper 7 was just flying!! Great motor though..no problems and easy to tune..
JonRullan
02-25-2002, 07:44 PM
Thats the engine that I run in my H7, and it flies!!! very easy too tune. Does anybody know how the new 0-1 BP differs from the old 0-1??
hoese37
02-26-2002, 12:30 PM
my hyper topped out at 58 mph. i couldnt get enough distance to get going past 23000 rpm. i put the stock gearing back in and it was time to bash. outside there is atleast 3 inches of fresh powder. with the maxx tires it goes like it was on asphalt with slicks.:D
bad andy
02-26-2002, 10:36 PM
I figured you guys may want to check out the latest body I painted for my hyper7...http://www.myplanet.net/martyr2/h7white7.jpg
http://www.myplanet.net/martyr2/h7white3.jpg
AEAddict
02-27-2002, 07:49 AM
Nice buggy bad andy!
hehehe.....
I got a lot of mine together over the past couple days..
I got the front and rear ends put together.. and the center brakes put together too.
I LOVE THIS CAR!!!! but DAMN do the instructions SUCK!! ahh!!
it doesn't even give a 1:1 screw chart in the margins, or NOTHIN! The bag's aren't labeled either!! So.. it takes me MORE TIME to find the correct screw than it does to put that section together..
Also.. WHAT SCREWS are used for the TOP of the shock towers where the shock "balls" connect? I can't find one with a SQUARE head, and one that's short enough! DO I use those purple Conical Washers or something? HELP! hehe.
Thanks!
bad andy
02-27-2002, 08:51 AM
Hey AE, use the purple washers with the sort of 'beveled-head' flatheads behind the shock towers. I found the car's instructions pretty well organized. The thing that may throw you off is that these are the same instructions for the RTR, which uses different parts and screws in some places. However, I did find that although it would have been nice to have a 1:1 screw guide, that the parts bags were organized so as to include the parts you need on a step by step basis. As a hint, when you've located a bag that has parts you know are for a certain step, look entirely through the bag when searching for a questionable part rather than looking through then other bags. Good luck, you're going to love it when it all goes together...
hoese37
02-27-2002, 12:48 PM
does any company make bodies for the hyper 7 other than buggies. i feel like a dodge viper could do the trick.
AEAddict
02-27-2002, 03:21 PM
OK. I'll use those.
Also.. what gets loc-tite undone on the knuckles?
Lost Racer1
02-27-2002, 03:26 PM
Heat will help to loosen the loctite..
winning edge designs
02-27-2002, 09:08 PM
hoese37,Ofna makes 1/8th scale bodies,several in fact. they have a Mclaren a Viper and a Celica,I think the kyosho rally bodies will fit as well,but you'll need body posts for any of them of course...........Jim
Lost Racer1
02-27-2002, 09:18 PM
I don't think the kyosho ones are wide enough, then you'd have some serious conversions to go through, such shorter front shock tower, removing your wing assembly, then trying to affix the proper posts for the conversion. If you had a GTLX or an MBX series it would be a bit easier because they use the same chassis and most parts as the GTP. The ofna bodies will work but it would be a serious hack job...
winning edge designs
02-27-2002, 10:03 PM
True,basically,you can "make" any of them fit,it's all about how bad you want to though?.................Back in my early days I did alot of custom dremel work,including redrilling arms,etc to make bodies and other parts fit as well. It can be done,but in a day when RTR is so pupular probably not many can do it themselves.........Jim
AEAddict
02-28-2002, 07:30 AM
Hey guys... I just e-mailed Ofna... my M3X14mm screws (for the wing mount, and the rear top of the shock tower for the shocks to connect) were missing. Do you think I have a good chance of getting them from that e-mail (I very nicely asked for them) ?
hoese37
02-28-2002, 09:06 AM
thanx, do you know where i get the longer body posts??:confused:
Lost Racer1
02-28-2002, 02:08 PM
get the blazer sst posts, #33010 .. those should work.
nolanr0413
02-28-2002, 02:14 PM
I just got my hyper 7 pro-r monday and i love it but the instructions suck compared to the rc10gt.I wish i could build mine though, i had to order diff oils, 1000wt , 5000wt, and 7000wt. I ct really do anything until i get the diffs done because so much revolves around them.
AEAddict
02-28-2002, 07:50 PM
8-) I got mine on monday too. Finished the "frame" of it today. :D
I thought it'd take me longer.... but.. it really wasnt TOO bad..
I do agree the instructions suck... there's GREAT pictures.. but the darn thing dont got enough info about EXACTLY what screws go where. Maybe it's just because I'm used to working on REAL CARS... where if you get this one screw wrong... the whole axle assembly can come apart. Ya' know? Stuff like that. I'm EXTREMELY observative.. I notice the very small differences...
and I look @ the "tip" of the screw.. and this one's different than that one in the instructions... but the one here on my workbench has a flat "tip" instead of the pointy one... so I get confused. Oh well! roflmao
:cool:
winning edge designs
02-28-2002, 08:39 PM
Aeaddict,I noticed myself while biulding the car,they have everything correct,except for the hop-up stuff they added. Everywhere they used any "trick" parts,they are different from the pics...an addendum would have been nice. I didn't complain too much,since the word addendum says dum right in it!..haha!..........Car looks so good new,i almost didn't want to race it,but man i'm glad I did!.............:),Jim
AEAddict
02-28-2002, 09:08 PM
True. hehe..
I'm just used to Associated manuals. I've put together THREE AE products. All with huge success. Best damn instructions I've ever seen. hehe.
Now I have a better car, but with worse instructions! hehe
I hear ya about "not wanting to race it" . It's a WORK OF ART! ahh!! It's SOO CLEAN and YUMMIE.. and TRICK.. and.. NUMMIE! heheeh!!
this's got to be the best RC I have EVER owned. In all the years I've been in it.. this one TOPS THEM ALL head over heels!
MM MM GOOD! this's the ferrari of RC.. for SURE.
hmm.. now all's I need is a Serpent Veteq 2002 ! whee! eheh j/k
NitroOwnsYou
02-28-2002, 10:34 PM
I told you about those instructions! Its like working on these new cars like the damn boxter where you have to drop the engine to do everything! a living hell that boxtr is, but worth every minute of it! :D
I got a 1 piece pipe coming soon, then Im going to buy a 9.5 to play with also. Then maybe a 7.5! :D Why you ask? so noone can put down my buggy cuz its not this brand, or that brand!:rolleyes: I will own them all muhahahaha! The addiction never ends!
Jr
AEAddict
03-01-2002, 07:25 AM
this's a post from another of my Hyper posts... I copied and pasted.. but if someone could please answer me this following question:
I got the torsen in mine!
hey.. when you hold up one end of the car off the ground... do the wheels in the air spin... or not ? I wanna make sure it's the way its supposed to be.. because mine's only turning 1 end of the car at a time.. with one set of wheels in the air. (if you hold it like wheelie.. and roll the back end across the ground.. do the front's spin?)
Mine's also not super smooth at rolling across the floor either...
is it posed to be like that @ first? or do the bearings have to break in first? ( I dont have the brakes too tight I dont think?) I dont have the linkages hooked up yet because I don't have the engine and servo's in it yet.
Thanks.. I just want to make sure mine's setup right
winning edge designs
03-01-2002, 10:06 AM
AEaddict,if you weren't too thrilled with the Hyper 7's instructions,you'll absolutely HATE the Veteq's,LMAO! I've biult one...only ONE,last one for me! I charged $200 for assembly and it was not anywhere near worth while for me,OUCH! Everything is handfitted,clearancing needed,parts confusion,etc. 16 years biulding cars and that one was the tuffest.
Nitroownsyou,heh,R/C=Crack for me too,LOL!......Can't help but sympathize with people who have addictions of thier own now?
AEaddict,the torsens work very differently from standard diffs. They will put power to the wheel with "more traction",as long as both wheels have "some traction". Once one wheel lifts completely off the ground,it will unload the same as a regular diff. This is what makes a torsen handle strange on rough tracks. Most of the top level drivers only use them on big, high speed, fairly smooth tracks..........Jim
AEAddict
03-01-2002, 12:48 PM
WinningEdge...
Yup. I understand how they work.. but I wanted to make sure that my car was setup properly.
When the front wheels are lifted off of the ground.. and I "drag" the rear wheels across the carpet... the front wheels DO NOT spin. Like it was a rear wheel drive only. And if I do it for the front on the ground.. the rear wheels do not spin. Now.. is this how it is SUPPOSED TO BE ? I just want to ... like I said.. make sure everything is the way it's supposed to be. I wanted to make sure that my car's brakes weren't setup too tightly either.
It's a little "difficult" toPUSH across the floor... it doesn't just "roll forever" like my RC10T3 did (with motor out).
I wanted to make sure that this is ( I think) because the rubber sealed bearings haven't broken in yet? I know that they offer some resistence when NEW.. and they're brand new. Will the get "free-er" once I run the car once or twice?
Thanks a bunch..
winning edge designs
03-01-2002, 01:19 PM
AEaddict,the symptoms your describing are normal if your running a light center diff fluid and/or drag brake on both ends. Since there is a diff in the center and not a posi or locked diff,it will allow each end to freewheel on it's own if there is drag brake adjusted in. If you don't want the drag brake be sure to adjust the brake caliper mounts a little looser,using more air gap. Some racers have experienced brake fadding,due to too low an airgap setting causing overheating of the pads as well. I have mine set so I can rattle the pads a little with my finger tip during a neutral servo position..Then adjust it as needed with the radio from there.....Jim
NitroOwnsYou
03-01-2002, 04:58 PM
Well the bearings shouldnt need to "break in", but your diffs have to. I always run my cars in a figure 8 to break in the diffs. Mine rolls alot more free than when new. Also check the brakes about the wheels not turning. They should turn all wheels at once, unless there is alot of resistance. The center diff will let the front and rear move on their own, but if you wheelie the car the fron should spin with the rear. Check your brakes.
Hope all goes well, and if you need more help, just ask :D
JR
Scomp87
03-01-2002, 05:14 PM
Howdy Y'all. I might be lookin to buy a hyper 7 pro soon, so if y'all don't want one pm me.
Bowtie_Guy
03-01-2002, 07:59 PM
Hey guys, I just became a new owner of a pro. While putting it together I found i was missing screws and a pair of wheel hubs were to big. AND YES THOES INSTRUCTIONS:mad: Anyone else have this with their buggy? Great forum...
AEAddict
03-01-2002, 11:27 PM
Yeah.. my rear shock tower (where the shock mounts on top of the top of the tower) .. those screws were missing.. and my wingmount screws were missing..
all my wheel hubs were good..
but I just got done TRASHING MY RIMS... I didn't know it was "so difficult" to glue these 1/8th scale rims!! AHH!!
I'd get the tire half-way down in the groove.. and it's STUCK.. and wont go all the way.. so now my sidewalls are all "bumpy" lookin.. heh..
I got 3 outta 4 jacked up.. the 4th one has ZERO lumps! whee! I'm picking it up I guess..
AEAddict
03-01-2002, 11:30 PM
Here's mine......
http://www.radiocontrolzone.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=73714
Bowtie_Guy
03-02-2002, 07:31 AM
muuuaaaahahahaha, cool car! What engine you gonna but in it?
I found a picco 01 bc with like 2.8 @43000 for $225. As far as the missin pieces, guess its just heart breaking to get that far to wait till lhs or Home Depot to open. And yes it was my bolts that bolt the shock on the tower also. It just looks funny with only two wheels on it! thanks AE.
TeamCarnage
03-02-2002, 08:09 AM
AE- If your not happy with your tire mounting, you can bake them off in the oven! 300* for 1/2 hour breaks down the CA and they come right off without damage to any of the components.I've been saving good $ reusing the wheels and mounting new tires and foams... Wear Gloves!!
I bought my Hyper at XMas and had NO problems with the directions or with missing parts. I feel that I'm in the majority of the Hyper owners that I've talked to. I've only raced it once on an indoor track (100X52) and didn't make the adjustments required to get this thing really planted. I've got a RB WS7 in it and even on this small track, this buggy ripped!! Only problem so far were the dreaded front knuckles... I stripped the ano off the GS and polished em and its been good ever since:)
Nick
nolanr0413
03-02-2002, 08:30 AM
I just started to put my hyper 7 pro together and i am missing screws and i have to go to home depot or some other place. I like the kit because it is so cool but i feel sorry for the poor bastard that tries to put this together for their first car. Becides the missing screws and horrible instructins i have a question. I put the front and rear diffs togetherand used silicone oil and the damn things leak. I put them together correctly and tightened them down. They are tightened down so much i can spin the outdrives in different directions without the tires on. Please give me some help because this kit is getting on my nerves.
RC Freak
03-02-2002, 11:32 AM
i have been saving up for a 1:8 buggy for a while know and i and at the $400 dollar mark with a b-day comming up. here i go
1 i cant get top of the line motor or electronics at first because i am 14 and on a limited income. what is a good buggy engin in the $125 price range. hows the os max RG for $129
2 is a hitec hs625mg servo good enought for a stering servo. 93 oz torque at .13 transite ( i have one that i dont use in the garage)
3 is a standard $12 servo good enought for the throttle servo
4 is their anything else i need to complete the kit.
5 is the xtm starter box good enought, comes with batter and charger, glo panel for ($100)
6 I am probally gunna get the hitec dcx reciever for $65
i am already into nitro with 2 rc10gt's, so i have glo starters and fuel
thanks Casey
bad andy
03-02-2002, 02:54 PM
Nolan, where are your diffs leaking? the seals? or the set screw hole? It is quite normal to see leakage around the set screws. This can be remedied by using some silicone RTV sealant around the set screw while threading it in (This is a good idea even if you don't see immediate leakage, as soon as these things start spinning furiously, the silicone will try to find a way out anywhere it can). You should not see leakeage around the large seals though. Take a look at the large o-rings in the seals if that is where you are leaking and make sure they have no nicks or anything.
Freak, the 625mg should be Ok for steering. However, you may want something torquier (look, I made up a new word) for handling brakes. Even a 605bb (around $28) would suffice. The DCX should be fine. I don't know about the XTM box- I use an OFNA myself (big blue)-$100 for box/power panel/glow plug connection. However, the battery would be about $30 on top.
Good luck guys, how about some pics when they're done and painted?
AEAddict
03-02-2002, 04:44 PM
Here's some pics Bad Andy
winning edge designs
03-02-2002, 06:48 PM
nolan,I had leaks from my set screws in the diff cases. I used teflon tape to seal them up,since it wasn't as finicky as silicone about sticking after it was oil soaked. My kit wasn't missing a single screw and my instructions were great,except for no servo saver setting recommendations, or shock oil,All the hop-up parts were different then the pics and there were no brake assembly specs for clearanes,etc............Alot of this stuff I just figured out on my own, not a big deal,but definately not a "first Kit"!
Casey,the stuff in your list looks great,looks like you've done some research!............Jim
hoese37
03-04-2002, 12:39 PM
my friend and i had the same problem with my diff leaking. an easy fix is to take it to your lhs and have them check the seals. ask if changing the fluid to a different wt. will correct this. just dont do what my friend did, just fill the diff with rtv blue silicone gasket maker.:rolleyes:
as for casey i wouldnt go with the $12 throttle servo, id go with something at least $30 for a higher quality. just my opinion.
10PM TYRANT
03-05-2002, 09:37 PM
hey guys look what i just got for my 9.5 Pro, the wings will fit on your hyper 7's also
http://www.networktechniques.com/pitstain/images/95/DSC00135.JPG
NitroOwnsYou
03-05-2002, 11:00 PM
I just stumbled on this beautiful pic on a website!
http://www.nitrocross.com/images/niround1/nirnd1-19.jpg
:D
Jr
Lost Racer1
03-06-2002, 11:19 AM
I saw Paul Coleman running those colored stone guards in Hemet last month..Where did you find them?
AEAddict
03-06-2002, 12:50 PM
Heck yeah ! Where do you get those from!? I want a purple set to match all the purple aluminum on my H7Pro! hehe
I'm gunna paint my body black with purple/white flames.. so it'd match perfectly....
Bowtie_Guy
03-08-2002, 10:18 AM
Hey guys! The pro's ready for the raido and reciever. Im stuck but leaning twards the lynx 3d synthasized. What do you guys think? Yea, Yea, Yea, I know get the m8 but what does the m8 have that the lynx dont? ......... NOT A FIRST TIME RC'ER. JUST THE FRIST TIME WITH THE GOOD STUFF. MMMMUUUAAAAAHHAHAHHAAH!!!!!!
10PM TYRANT
03-08-2002, 10:37 AM
guys i dont think the side guards will fit your H7's they are for my 9.5 , the wings will fit since they are not drilled but the side guards are different i think
ofnaman
03-08-2002, 12:44 PM
I bought a hyper 7 pro which was my 3rd 1/8th buggy becuase I thought I would get into racing . My other 2 were a
Ultra Worlds 2 and a GT LX RTR. I tried racing with the hyper but I suck as a driver ,pretty much all I found out I enjoy doing is jumping. Well my GTLX was literally indestructable. 30ft drops off hills no prob ,jump it into a tlelephone pole no prob. I broke 2 parts the whole tome I had it a gas tank and a rear a-arm holder. My hyper 7 pro with how I abuse cars is not holding up and I have not even come close to anything crazy yet. I have broke 3 shockshafts,6 knuckles,1 front a-arm,one upper a-arm,1 rear upright. I have replaced everything with the newest parts that are supposed to be stiffer. I am just debating do I sell it and try the 9.5 or sell it and get another gtlx? Parts for me are no problem with the 9.5 I work down the street from Ofna and Nitro House. What do you guys think?
Lost Racer1
03-08-2002, 02:57 PM
The hyper 7 was made for racing not really a basher. The GTLX on the other hand is a great basher, but lacks in racing. I don't know what you do more of..If you're going to bash use the GTLX, its better suited for it. The Hyper 7 is a racing machine and will handle race conditions much better. And if you go to the 9.5, same situation. That buggy is geared towards racing as well..
Ofnaman Were did you get the stiffer parts and how much did they cost?what all do they make?
ofnaman
03-08-2002, 04:49 PM
I got the newest batch from Ofna and he said it was supposed to be stiffer . Its an awsome buggy but its not basher proof. Ill probobly keep it and try to scrape $300 together for a gtlx.
98vols
03-08-2002, 09:22 PM
Looking to buy a new engine for my Hyper 7 pro. I like what I am hearing about the RB C4 is there anywhere online I can buy one. I can't find them at tower or horrizon and is there anyone has an opinion on a better engine. I am running the Ofna Picco Comp right now but it has several gallons thru and I am looking for something new before summer season gets underway
bad andy
03-08-2002, 09:48 PM
98vols, You will NOT be disappointed with an RB C4. It's monster of an engine, and also in quite high demand. From what I understand, RB has a hard time keeping the states in stock. I believe your best bet (from what I've heard) is either www.nationalrc.com or www.ace-hobbies.com. You may need to leave your name on a list but I think these guys get the most RB product generally. Good luck
jasonrcfreak
03-09-2002, 02:51 PM
Bowtie- Screw the M8 and the Lynx and get the Futaba 3PJS!! :D
I've had mine for quite a while and love it. The wheel just has an awesome feel in my hand. It has an 8 model memory and you can add more with the optional module. It has features out the wazoo; hell, I haven't even come close to figuring them all out! :D I don't like the way both the M8 and the Lynx kinda stick out to the side. Might get heavy during a 45 minute A-main(not that I've ever been in one!! LOL!).
It all comes down to personal preference.....personally I love my 3PJS.
98vols-The C4 is a monster. I've heard some folks say it has too much power! I've got a WS7, but I haven't had a chance to really open it up yet. The O.S. RZV-01B is another excellent choice.
Missing parts??!! Tsk Tsk Tsk!! Y'all shoulda got a Mugen!! :D
nolanr0413
03-09-2002, 07:16 PM
i have an ofna picco .21 "0-1" engine in my hyper 7 pro r and i need some help. This is my first .21 and i seem i have it going pretty go for break in but i have some troubles. I am running 30% nitro and an os max #8 glow plug. The engine doesn't seem to be right.
Bowtie_Guy
03-09-2002, 07:42 PM
Thanks Jason, Yea, thats what I was told yesterday. To late though. I got the 3d synthasized. But if i find a futaba I will shure give it a try.
NitroOwnsYou
03-09-2002, 09:57 PM
Ok guys,
Update on the buggy. The Jp Pro 99 is way too much power for a buggy at a track. Heck its too much just bashing! It will go into my MP when I can get a WS7 for the buggy.
98Vols
Check your motor decision out further. Too much hp at a track is actually harder to drive than not enough. The C4 is a great engine, but for buggy racing the WS7 is the favorite! check and see how the track layout is before you go for the big beast.
Jr
AEAddict
03-15-2002, 07:29 AM
rofl! too much power!? No such' tang' boooyyeeeeee ! ehehe
:D
Scott H.
03-16-2002, 12:02 AM
Just finished this puppy.
I've built a lot of buggies, trucks, helicopters and planes before but this was the toughest so far.
No written instructions, no setup specs, the shock oil is more like diff oil! But with some serious work this thing is pretty sweet!
Bought the Ofna CNC knuckles, although you could just heli-Coil the stock ones. Also in my kit they included a properly threaded set of cast knuckles.
My shock tower screws were missing as well. (had some from my heli supplies).
I filled the hole in the CF center diff cover plate closest to the throttle servo w/ JB weld. Then redrilled it. Ran a stock cap screw with a nylock nut. That gave me a real nice spot to attach the servo return spring.
Now if it just doesn't rain tomorrow I'll go break everything in.
I've been driving my freinds H7 with a WS7. Wicked fast! Then I drove my brothers K7.5 with the V01b. Again wicked fast, but in a totally different way. I'd take the WS7 on a big open track and the V01b on a small tight track (which is what we are building).
Oh yeah, another tip for glueing tires. I picked up some of that CA that has the rubber in it (looks like black oil). Ran a bead around the inside lip and slipped the tires on. didn't even have to band them. I just stacked all four and put a shoe on top for weight. Worked great!
So here's the specs:
RZ V01b,
RB '63 pipe & Header
Hitec 5925's
1100mA
Novak Synth
GWS fail safe
3PJS w/Spectra
I'll get a pic or two when the camera charges up.
Have fun!
Scott H>
nolanr0413
03-16-2002, 08:55 PM
i finally have my hyper 7 pro up and running. I was wondering how much the cnc knuckles cost. Also what is the speed of the hyper 7 pro stock. i would like to go 50mph.
tarvymoto
03-16-2002, 11:41 PM
Let me know how you like the RZvo1b. I'm thinking about buying that engine as well. Thanks , Travis
Scott H.
03-17-2002, 11:39 PM
Hey Travis,
all I was able to do was run a couple of tanks to start the break-in procedure. If it runs as well as my Brothers V01b, I'm sure it's gonna be sweet.
In as close to a direct comparison as we could do, it seems the OS RZ-VO1b and the RB WS7 are pretty much even money. Both are easy to tune, both kick major bootie. The OS has more down low, but the RB has that F1 sound due to the seven ports, and a little bit more RPM on top at the track. Kind of like an american V8 versus a Cosworth. The RB is also ~$10.00 cheaper street price.
If my buddy pulls his WS7 for any reason I'll toss it on my dyno and do a real comparison.
For me, the track would dictate between the two, and I'm sure there are even more engines out there that would be equivalent.
YMMV,
----------------------------
Nolan,
I honestly couldn't tell you the top speed. Mostly because I could care less. As long as no one passes me on the straights, I'm way more interested in how low my lap times are.
As for the knuckles, I think they are ~ $45.00 street price. If you have the newer version of the Hyper 7 you don't really need them. They corrected the deficiency with the thread tapping, then included this complete new set in the kit. Just don't use the ones with the sloppy threads, unless you redrill and heli-Coil them. You can also use the Kyosho knuckles with a slight mod to get full steering, and the Dynamite GS storm arms with Kyosho 7.5 (slightly longer than H7) CVD's.
Best of luck,
Scott H.
tarvymoto
03-17-2002, 11:55 PM
thanks for the reply. I'm going to buy an new engine when I get back from my FL vacation(racing 10th gas truck while I'm down there;)
OldskoolGT
03-18-2002, 08:31 PM
Hi all,
I just ordered a Hyper 7 Pro and a RB WS7 engine. Can't wait to get the stuff.
Just a few questions here before I get the kit:
1. Does the buggy or motor come with an air filter?
2 How much torque does the steering servo need?
3. Any other advice about building and setting up the buggy is appreciated.
AEAddict
03-18-2002, 11:32 PM
Yes it comes with an Air Filter, and Pipe, and Manifold.
Steering servo.. get one with AT LEAST 100 oz/ in of torque.
Oh yeah, the brake linkages are REALLY HARD TO GET RIGHT THE FIRST TIME! AHHH!! I just spent the last 2 hours fumbling with them, as they make you CUT the rods and bend them! ahhh!!!
oh well, all's well it ends well!!
MotoMaxx
03-21-2002, 11:33 AM
OldskoolGT, keep in mind that the directions you are gonna get are for the RTR so, the optional annodized parts won't show up on the directions. Also, save yourself some frustration and shave a little off of the lower Arms where the shocks mount too. Otherwise you will be fighting those things everytime you re-mount them... Just take an Xacto knife and shave a little off of the inside where it captures the shock-end. They will frustrate you to no end if you don't. Also, spring for some CNC'd steering knuckles, the stock cast ones are weak and will break. I got the Dynamite ones for the Storm, they fit nicely. I have the same buggy-engine combo you are getting, it's a nice set-up...Enjoy
AEAddict
03-22-2002, 03:12 AM
Hey guys.... how did you wind up bending your linkages for the brakes to make them not bind? And make them not "gimp" ? ... cuz mine have a slight curve like the instructions say, but it binds like MAD...
PLEAE HELP..
MotoMaxx
03-22-2002, 11:16 AM
Hey, AEAddict, you really gotta monkey with those things to get them right. I cut them down even more than they say too and moved the actuator loops in more, it took a while but, I finally got it right. You really do have to jack with them though, trial and error big time!
JohnT
03-22-2002, 07:51 PM
Better yet, order Ofna p/n 30800. It's a throttle linkage kit that has some real trick parts. The kit came with my Hyper 7 RTR but I ended up using it in my Pro. It worked so well that I ordered another kit for the RTR. Yeah, it's kind of tricky to keep the brakes from binding with the stock parts.
AEAddict
03-23-2002, 12:36 AM
N E one got pictures of their bends? Mine look like a squirming snake lookin thing on crack! lol.
The more pictures the merrier! Thanks for the part no. Bro!
any info on how much it costs? ...
AEAddict
03-23-2002, 02:08 PM
Hey guys... got another question for ya' ...
my purple springs are WAAAY too soft for the conditions I'll be running on.
Could anyone please post the different spring colors/weights, and part #'s ? or link me to some? Thanks!
98vols
03-24-2002, 09:48 PM
I am having a problem leaking fuel out of the gasket between
the motor and the header. on my Hyper 7 pro with Ofna picco Comp. My father just got a RB Concepts C-4 for his hyper 7 pro and it is doing the samething but not as bad. I love the pipe that came with the pro kit Love the sound but I would like a new headder I think that is where my problem is. I have tried new gaskets (ofna and GS) and have the same result with both. any suggestions as far as a new headder or a way to fix my problem
MotoMaxx
03-25-2002, 01:47 PM
Hey,AEAddict, I am running GS pink springs on the front and the stock purples on the rear, I drilled the pistons with the racer's edge 54 finger bits. I am running 25wt. oil in front and 30 in the rear, it seems to work pretty well on the tight hard packed, low traction track I am running now. We'll see what happens when I go outdoors...
98vols, I have an RB WS7 in mine and it came with 2 different gaskets, I haven't had a problem with it yet but, it is a larger gasket I am running. I don't know of any part #'s but your LHS should be able to help you out. I'll ask my LHS what the # is and post when I find out...
Lost Racer1
03-25-2002, 06:08 PM
Originally posted by 98vols
I am having a problem leaking fuel out of the gasket between
the motor and the header. on my Hyper 7 pro with Ofna picco Comp. My father just got a RB Concepts C-4 for his hyper 7 pro and it is doing the samething but not as bad. I love the pipe that came with the pro kit Love the sound but I would like a new headder I think that is where my problem is. I have tried new gaskets (ofna and GS) and have the same result with both. any suggestions as far as a new headder or a way to fix my problem
What header do you have on there? When I had that engine I had the same problem, Try a stronger spring to hold your header on better.. The problem I had was the header and gasket weren't closing very well..Try different combinations..
oops wrong post..hehe ;)
AEAddict
03-25-2002, 07:10 PM
hehehe hows it goin bro!
I meant the SHOCK springs ;)
I got the stock header and pipe (which are nice pieces).
We'll have to see how she mates to an O.S V01B here shortly
AEAddict
03-26-2002, 07:05 PM
Hey people!!! SAY SOMETHING!!!!! our thread is becoming DEAD!!!
AHHHH!!!
whatta' ya'll think of the body on my H7 that Frank painted (can be found in the Nitro Forum) ?
juss wondering!!
Scomp87
03-26-2002, 08:14 PM
i bet i'll do better when my iwata comes...
AEAddict
03-26-2002, 08:18 PM
It's on Scomp!! hehe
:D
Scomp87
03-26-2002, 10:00 PM
when it comes, when it comes.
Jwelch
03-27-2002, 08:43 PM
OOh, I want one of these bad boys sooo bad. How much did Frank charge you for that paint, Addict? Like I said in the Nitro forum, that body is incredible. Alright, if I was to get the pro here's my short list:
Hyper 7 Pro- 439.99
RB Europa S7- 209.99
Hitec 645MG- 45.99
I might consider a simple Hyper .21 if I don't have the cash for an RB, and I'll get a nicer engine later on.
-John
AEAddict
03-27-2002, 10:09 PM
He charged me $25.00 ... I feel I owe him something though,....
primuswoostinkinhoo
03-28-2002, 01:52 AM
ive got a hyper 7 pro on layaway. i should have it payed off by not this friday but next friday april 4th i think it is, ill be trading my tc3 for a ron paris modified picco .21 here shorty. so ive read most of this thread, what are u guys saying abotu steering knuckles breaking or something? and what about the brake linkages? is it really hard to make them not bind or will it just take some time to bend them right? can u just bend the the pic on the ofna webpage and that will work or no? anything else to watch out for? this is my first 1/8 scale but like my 12th kit
h2ovwdrvr
03-28-2002, 07:20 AM
I read a good amount of the post and have not experienced most of the problems I have seen posted here. as far as the instructions go they are the absolute best of I have seen on any car the first hyper 7 I built took me a bit over 4 hours every one I have built since has taken me a bit under 3 and a half hours I normally take 4.5 hours or so and for those pos kyosho buggies the last kania I built took over 6 hour due to the huge amount of hand fitting the worst kit of the 1000 plus I have built over the years my diffs have not had any leakage problems and I have over 3 gallons on the car. As for setup I run the black springs with 20wt front 25wt rear and a center torsen other than that box stock. Some guys are running the new ofna blue springs I don't have a part number handy with drilled number 54 pistons and 35wt oil and they seem pretty dialed and I am going to try that on a spare set of shocks my kit was not missing a thing and my brakes were smooth as silk by following the kit instructions as were every other hyper I have built.
as for power I am running a modified 0-1 in my hyper and running a modified ws7 in my other buggy I love both motors and would highly recommend both of them in my next buggy I am going to try one of the Crono Novarossi clb's which all my customers who have tryed them rave about. You could not pay me enough to run a OS .21 they make power but quality and durability are one step above a hpi .15fe none of our local guys get much more than a gallon and a half on them running 30 percent I expect no less than 6 gallons per motor.
If anyone wants one I am selling a new rzv-01b for one of the kids I work with he bought it from a friend for a good price new it has never been in a car he was going to run it but he wants a more durable motor and wants it gone for what he payed for it.
as far as durability on the hyper my car is about a year old now and I have never broken a knuckle at the 2 gallon mark I switched to the cnc knuckles which are 59.95 and have not had any problems parts I have broken are a front arm and upper front arm a wing mount a wing a front c hub and a cvd in a gallon on my last kyosho I went through over 400 dollars in parts
and last the guy with the problems running the o1 with problems try running a rb 6 plug or a ofna picco 7 in it the OS plug is to short for that motor the o1 requires a long plug all os plugs are shorts
the differnce between the O1 and the O1 bp (black power) is the o1 has a 9 mm carb and the bp has a 7mm carb the bp also has a larger exhaust port the bp has more torque do to these two changes also a gray head instead of a black one I run the standard with a r 9886 karting system pipe and it is very nice more power than is usable with 8 plus minutes on a tank
h2ovwdrvr
03-28-2002, 07:50 AM
here is the current body on my hyper
h2ovwdrvr
03-28-2002, 07:54 AM
my original body
h2ovwdrvr
03-28-2002, 07:56 AM
another hyper body I painted for a customer
TeamCarnage
03-28-2002, 09:17 AM
Primus- Congrats on your Hyper! I got one of the first kits and the knuckles were bad. I put GS ones on and haven't had a problem. The newer kits have upgraded knuckles.You shouldn't have a problem.I didn't like the brake linkage at all. I put a Kyosho unit on and its great. Very easy to adjust bias, and the linkage is straight. I've raced this buggy all winter and love it. Only thing Ive broken is a front arm and that was my own fault. (Out of control driving)lol
If you live in Joliet, then you know about Leisure Hours track. They're racing there Sat. at 5:00pm.Stop by...Theres going to be a good turnout of 1/8th scale. I'm bringing an Indiana contingent to do battle with Team Crono, which is trying to take over there.
Nick A.
AEAddict
03-28-2002, 12:58 PM
hey H2... did U dye your wing black.. or buy a black one.. and if so where can I get one from?
I have a black body on my H7 Pro... and me needs some stuff to match. I'm going to get the black twisted spoke wheels for my next set of tires too (as mine will be slicks within a matter of minutes because it'll be my break-in set of wheels & tires).
Thanks bro.. and your buggy looks juss as competitive as mine.
Oh yeah... personally.. I do also feel that people EXAGERATE their feelings and problems with a kit quite a bit too much. These forum does have quite a bit of complaints... and my complaints have been minimal (the instruction manual, & the brake linkages)
Other than that I am 100% satisfied with my H7 Pro.
h2ovwdrvr
03-29-2002, 03:04 AM
the current wing on my buggy is a crono we started carrying them at our store a few weeks ago and I tried one to see if I could break it because I can break anything. so far it is bomb proof it is thinner than the stock wing and more flexible. Ofna also offers a black two level wing like on the old worlds 2 they look nice but are not very strong kyosho makes a gunmetal that looks nice most people like them but I have had durablity problems I get a day before they die. the hyper wing is dialed but they get brittle when it gets cold and shatter mine lasted me a year but the track we race at it gets down to about 35 degrees at night for the mains and they snap.
on the instructions I have built around 15 or so serpent and x ray kits and the instructions are very similar so I am used to them we have only had customer rave about how good they are at the store but on any kit 1/8th scale we go through the instructions and awnser any questions they might have unless we know they have experience building a buggy.
As for the knuckles we have seen maybe 3 sets strip out of well over 50 cars we have sold I have seen more people break them but not many I think it was more of a mid production thing than early production I did not see any problems with those and my car did not have a problem and it is older than anyone else heres car
on the linkage the only thing I can think is the holes on the brake arm are to small you might try opening up that bend a bit to make sure it passes through there better
Crashtastic
03-29-2002, 11:54 PM
I was wondering how many degrees of camber and toe-in/out you guys were using in the front/rear of your Hyper 7...
h2ovwdrvr
03-30-2002, 12:43 AM
I am running 1 degree of front camber 1.5 degrees rear
no front toe and rear toe 1.5 to 2 degrees of rear toe depends on track conditions 2 if it is slippery 1.5 if it is high bite sometimes I will run 1 degree of front toe if it is very slippery to get a little more stability out of the car the hyper has so much steering there is really no real need to add any front toe out
AEAddict
03-30-2002, 05:35 PM
I have right now about 1.5-2.0 Degrees of Toe-OUT. It makes it steer quicker... a little less stable (which I actually like), and it makes it exit the turns a little faster.
I'm running 2.0 Degrees of rear Toe, and 2.0 Degrees of Camber in the front, with 1.5 Degrees of rear camber.
I haven't even had a chance to get to drive mine yet (no $$ for engine because of the fricken IRS takin over 6 weeks to get me back my taxes). I'll check if these "ballpark" settings hold good after I get to drive it.. but fine adjustments will be a definite when I do get to drive it.
nolanr0413
03-30-2002, 06:27 PM
i am pissed with my hyper 7 pro. I have a picco 0-1 and the damn car only goes 33mph. i clocked it with a radar gun . This is my first 1/8th scale car and thats too damn slow. I want at least 45mph. What teeth should i get for the clutch. i only want to buy a new clutch, spurs are too expensive.
OldskoolGT
03-30-2002, 09:18 PM
Hi all,
I finally got around to building my new Hyper 7 buggy and I have run into a problem. The front CVDs appear to be too short by about three tenths of an inch. The CVDs measure about 4.76" in length. I am using the 20 degree castor blocks. Are the front CVDs for the wheels supposed to be shorter than the rear ones? My kit came with 2 different sizes of CVD axles for the front and rear axles while it appears to me that the longer size CVDs will work in the front and rear.
P.S.
Thanks to the people who replied to my first question in this forum.
OldskoolGT
03-30-2002, 11:47 PM
Pic refers to problem in my post above.
h2ovwdrvr
03-31-2002, 01:09 AM
old gt what I see first off is you have about 12 to 15 degrees of positive camber change that to about 1 degree negative and that should solve your problem I remeber the fronts being shorter than the rear I will check for sure on monday when I get back to the store which is where my car is right now. ae on my gt and other 2 wheel drives I would run around 2 degrees of toe out to get them to turn and higher amounts of camber but on a buggy I run a more moderate setup on my old kyosho and my old worlds 2 my last 2 buggies i ran around 1 degree but the hyper has a ton of steering it turns like a x ray t1 on high grip asphalt.
nolan you need to tune your motor properly I would not recommend re gearing a hyper 7. I am running a picco o-1 i run blue thunder 30 race formula the only fuel I would ever trust in any of my motors from my basic stuff to my modified motors.
IF YOU ARE NOT EXPERIENCED TUNING GAS MOTORS DO NOT RUN 30 PERCENT YOU WILL HAVE PROBLEMS!! With the O-1 we have clocked my car over 60 mph under perfect conditions on the track we are doing a bit over 50mph on the straightaway
is this your first gas car if so a buggy probably was not your best choice the o-1 is a amazing race motor but is a bit finiky and not the easiest to tune motor a basic motor like the hyper 21 would have been a better choice if this is your first gas motor it is much easier to tune and you would get around the track as fast or faster due to the more controlability
what pipe and plug and fuel are you running with your o-1
if you are having problems tuning it you might take the car to the local hobby store you bought your car from and ask them for help tuning the car. that is what us hobby stores are here to help our customers that buy there stuff locally
OldskoolGT
03-31-2002, 11:06 AM
h2ovwdrvr,
Even when I have the camber set at 0 degrees, the CVDs still fall short by a similar amount.
Can anyone tell me what the total length of the upper A-arm should be. With the setup I have in that picture, there is no way I can make the upper arm short enough to make the CVDs work, and if it could work, the amount of negative camber would be pretty significant (like -20 degrees).
AEAddict
03-31-2002, 04:38 PM
Hey guys... I dunno what you're talking about a difference in the length of the rear CVA's vs the Front CVA's ... all mine were the exact same length when I set em' next to each other.
..... :o
RoadRunnerSpeed
03-31-2002, 04:53 PM
maybe you have a bent part somewhere.
Nitro Newbie
03-31-2002, 06:10 PM
when i get my hyper 7 wut type of fuel will make the engine last longest 10% 20% or 30% and then who makes a good fuel that will bring the v01b to life
OldskoolGT
03-31-2002, 06:25 PM
Thanks AEAddict. I was thinking that that was what the problem was but I just couldn't believe that I would get the wrong size CVAs. the Guess I will have to give Ofna a call tomorrow.
:(
AEAddict
03-31-2002, 06:39 PM
Ofna has some great customer service... I think you'll do just fine.
I'm really shocked that that happened... heh... mine was almost perfect... they just forgot the wing-mount screws in my kit.
Just e-mail tech support.. and fax them your receipt from purchase w/ a definition of the problem.
Sabian
03-31-2002, 08:49 PM
At the track yesterday, I stripped out the threads on the top side of the Hub itself. I have a replacement Hub with screws And all but I can't seem to get the Bearings out of the Old Hub. I poked and prodded but I don't want to ruin the bearing so I just stopped. I don't have a Bearing puller, is there any other way to get the Two Bearings Out? Thanks in Advance!! I heard about putting them in an Oven, but figured I asked first
nolanr0413
03-31-2002, 10:52 PM
I am running a stock pipe and an a-8 os max plug. I also run 30% nitro, trinity monster horsepower fuel. This isn't my first gas car, its my third, and about my 6th motor. It is the first time i have ever run 30% and it is more fineky. All my other engines are .12s. Your car couldn't have gone 50mph with stock gearing , no friggen way. I got 33mph and i have a radar gun so i know its accurate. I maybe could hae gottn 35mph if i tuned it to perfecton.
h2ovwdrvr
04-01-2002, 12:36 AM
ok first the os 8 is the wrong plug for that motor all os plugs are short almost every motor on the market requires a long try a rb number 6 or a ofna picco 7 the stock pipe was not really bad it felt a bit restrictive but was not horrible I am running a rb concept 9886 karting system and it seemed to make the motor come alive. the o1 revs so far at half of it's power it sounds like it can't rev farther and is about to blow but it does. mine never seems to stop accelerating. my basic needle settings are around 3 to 3.5 turns on the main and 4.5 on the bottom. at those settings it comes off the track at 190 degrees. I have seen way to many problems with the trinity fuel to run it in my motors
AEAddict
04-01-2002, 07:19 AM
Nolan..
we ran that Kyosho MP 7.5 right next to my REAL CAR... on a big long straight of street... it did exactly 50 MPH...
I was the driver of the REAL CAR.. ( I can read Speedometers..ok), and my friend was driving his Mp 7.5 Hanging the antenna out the window.
bad andy
04-01-2002, 01:06 PM
SABIAN, try heating the hub w/a hair dryer...might be a little safer than the oven. What replacement hub are you using?
AEAddict
04-01-2002, 07:31 PM
WHOOOOOOOTTTT !!!!!!!!!!!!!
I got my V01B today!!!!!!!!!!!!!
FINALLY!!!
ahhahahahah!!!!!
:D :D :D :D :D
Jamesh7p
04-01-2002, 08:09 PM
That is great AE! I have one in my Hyper 7 Pro and love it. I havn't had any problems with it. I wish there was a track close to me because I have never gotten to race it.
OldskoolGT
04-01-2002, 09:02 PM
Anyone ever try using a helicoil to repair the stripped knuckle problems? Seems much cheaper than spending $60 for some machined ones. The Fiorini (sp?) ones sure look purty though.
Update on my CVA problem:
I called OFNA today, and they told me to send in the CVAs for replacement. The guy I spoke to told me that they had never seen this problem before. I also discovered that one of the hubs in my kit is the wrong size, so it's getting sent back too. Out of spec parts have made building this kit into a dissappointing experience. :mad:
primuswoostinkinhoo
04-02-2002, 02:28 AM
hey carnage, im at liesure every weekend, people call me and my cousin suckface and throttleman. i have a xxxnt with a blue and purple body my cousin runs 1/8 scale mugen mbx rr, and a xxxnt with a yellow and reddish body.
are u there alot?
team crono in my opinion consists of one guy and thats time, forget bob toby i could woop his butt in any racing, i beat him in touring car and im sure i could drive his car better than he could i hope hes readin this lol.
anyways see u on friday or sunday if u go
bad andy
04-02-2002, 08:34 AM
Hey OLDSKOOL, sorry to hear about your disappointment. You will find the H7 is a good solid car once the kinks you've run into are ironed out. If you want the cheapest fix for the knuckles, how does $.64 sound? Use the stock knuckles but replace the metric bolts supplied in the kit with 8/32" x 1/2" bolts. These will re-tap the knuckles' threads and will be extremely tight, I doubt they'd ever make their way loose. Or, you can spend $10.50 on the Kyosho knuckles (part#IF006-aka KYOC4400, I think). They're are a direct fit. At least OFNA is taking care of you (which is more than can be said for certain 'other' companies). good luck.
Crashtastic
04-02-2002, 10:58 AM
Does anybody know where I can get a Wheel hub and nut for the Hyper 7 quick? One of the Hubs in my kit is too big and will not accept the wheel, and one of the nuts isn't even threaded! I called Ofna and they want me to send the part in for replacement. I live in Florida so that will take forever... can you use the hubs from other Ofna kits in the Hyper 7? (with 8mm axles)
Crashtastic
04-02-2002, 02:34 PM
Called Nitrohouse, they had the hubs in stock, picked up some Ez treads while I was at it. Nice guys over there.
MadUsa1
04-02-2002, 08:54 PM
how much are you guys paying for your Hyper 7 kits?
OldskoolGT
04-03-2002, 12:39 AM
I got my H7 from Ace Hardware Hobbies for $440.
AEAddict
04-03-2002, 07:46 AM
Ditto: Ace Hobbies ----> $440.00 (H7 Pro)
OldskoolGT
04-04-2002, 01:19 AM
Does anybody know what the "shelf" with the holes on the back of the rear hub carriers are for? See pic below.
AEAddict
04-04-2002, 07:29 AM
Funny you'd ask that! I was wondering the same thing!
:D
Lost Racer1
04-04-2002, 10:59 AM
Probably the same as the fronts..keep pebbles and debris out of the way. :D(with the protective coverngs of course..)
Nitro Newbie
04-04-2002, 08:18 PM
dunno if this has any hypers in it im not good enuff at recognizein flying buggies yet but heres a cool buggy jumpin video with an rc10 in it too. they do some stupid stuff in it
http://trilordy.com/Tiny_Salmon.mpg ya gotta watch a boat for like a min but the rest kiks ass
AEAddict
04-04-2002, 09:23 PM
Thats one kickin' video Newbie. Thanks man
:D
Jack1
04-05-2002, 09:12 AM
hi guys
anyone one of you have any setup on a Hyper 7 PRO.
thing like toe in.. droop,camber.....
BuzzinHornets
04-05-2002, 11:26 AM
I am trying to decide if I should use the torsen or standard center diff. What are you guys using and how is it working for you?
bad andy
04-05-2002, 11:51 AM
I'm using the standard diff and the car drives great. From my understanding the torsen diff is generally used by racers as a tuning option when running on a large, fairly smooth track. The torsen (by design) causes the car to gain a lot of traction. Some people think perhaps too much traction for a bumpy track, and will prove to throw the car around a lot, making it somewhat squirrely and difficult to control. However, there's always trial and error and you can see for yourself which you like best for your particular running conditions.
AEAddict
04-05-2002, 12:49 PM
I have the torsen in mine. Haven't had a chance to drive it yet, but I am this afternoon. I'll let cha know.
Here's my specifications:
Front Toe: -1 degree
Rear Toe: +2 Degrees
Front Camber: -2 Degrees
Rear Camber: -1 Degree
Front Castor: 22 Degree blocks
Center torsen, black springs up front, purples in the back. 40 Wt oil in all four corners. RZ-V01B w/ stock Pipe & Manifold.
98vols
04-06-2002, 05:12 PM
I am running a Ofna Picco Comp in my hyper 7. I am changing from
o.s. ae8 glow plugs to ofna 07 glow plugs my question is the ofna
plug has two washers on it do I use both or just 1
hardcoretmaxx
04-06-2002, 05:22 PM
hyper 7 pro with cnc steering knuckles or a 9.5 pro :confused:
h2ovwdrvr
04-07-2002, 01:20 AM
hardcore that is your choice my overall choice would be one of each that has got me in a lot of trouble over the years choose wisely or you could end up like me with 30 plus cars
98 use one washer you only use the 2 washers in there .12's the picco plug is the right length the os is to short
StephenB
04-07-2002, 01:20 PM
OldskoolGT, those holes are for installing small strips of lexan or plastic to act as "mud scrapers" for the wheels. In offroad racing, mud and dirt can cake onto the inner surface of the wheel...so, if you install a small strip if lexan that just barely contacts the wheel, it'll act like a scraper to keep the wheel clean. :D
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