Ofna Hyper 7 Forum v1.0

[Nitro_Man]

Woah does this think look awesome or what!!! Do you guys think it will be competitive with the 7.5 and the mugens? Post what you think about the car!!

Jarad

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[Mrzoidburg]

Hmmm, i've heard about it, that's all. You got a link to some pics and info?
MrZ

[Nitro_Man]

I don't have any pic's but there is a thrash test on it in the new rc car action mag.

[Lost Racer]

Try here... (http://www.twf8.ws/new/vote.html)

[balapan]

Or here.... (http://www.ofna.com/new/hyper7.html)

[morfeeis]

even better


http://www.ofna.com/new/images/hyper%207%20center%20view.jpg

http://www.ofna.com/new/images/hyper%207%20left%20center%20view.JPG

http://www.ofna.com/new/images/hyper%207%20leftside%20view.jpg

http://www.ofna.com/new/images/hyper%207%20top%20view.JPG


http://www.ofna.com/new/images/hyper%207%20leftside%20body%20view.JPG

[Nitro_Man]

Yeah that thing is awesome, do you guys think it will be competitive?

Jarad

[ReMeDy]

<gasp> Damn and i was just about to get an Eb4 or a GS storm.

I wonder where it is aimed at? Competing with GS Storm Pro or up there with the 7.5 and Mugen RR(not XR)

[krayzie]

Well The Strom PRO is a competition buggy so it is up there with the 7.5,XR,and other comp buggys..by the looks of it the hyper 7,is a competition buggy so it is aimed at that market(along with the Strom PRO, 7.5 and others)....

Krayzie http://www.plauder-smilies.de/tales/grim.gif

[vetrider]

Sorry guys but the word out is the 9.5 is the Worlds 2 replacement. It's directly designed for compatition.
Of course by looking at those pics (thanks morfeeis) the Hyper 7 sure looks compeditive. :D

[Nitro_Man]

Yeah I talked to the guys at Ace Hobbies and they said they already had Pirate 7 pro in stock, but they sold them all. They said they would be a pretty good racer if you had the right driver, just like all the other cars I guess. So I am curious about if ofna is gonna put together some kind of traveling racing team to kinka promote the new buggys. Keep the posts comming!!

Jarad

[Jwelch]

I have only one complaint, that is one UGLY pipe, lol. Other than that, I want one!

[Nitro_Man]

Yeah I agree about the pipe, but it should provide some pretty good power. This thing comes with a center torsen diff how cool is that. Those things go for about $120 alone.

Jarad

[10beers]

nitro man it dosn;t come with a torsen

[morfeeis]

he might be talking about the pro

will there be an updat kit for my w2 so i can have a H9. if so what is new on the 9 that is not on the w2? anyone know when the 9 will be up for sale

[Nitro_Man]

Yeah i am talking about the pro version

[timberwolf211]

Looks like Ofna might do it right and have a really competitive buggy.

[ofnaman]

I just got the hyper 7 pro and it is bad ass. It is my 4th 1/8 ofna buggy. The pro not only came with a torsen diff but a set of Ofna allen drivers and a nylon case. I put a RB concepts 5 port engine in it and it flies. It lookse better made that the MP 7.5 IMHO.

[Nitro_Man]

Sweet dude let us know when you put it up against some competition! And what radio are you running?

Jarad

[morfeeis]

ta hell with info we want pic's lots of them

[Shakedown]

I hope Ofna makes this car it's top of the line competition buggy. IMHO I think Hobao(Hyper 7) makes better cars than Hongnor(Worlds II & Ultra).

I still have a Ofna (Hobao)Pirate (converted to a Super Pirate) that I used to kick Kyosho Burns and Turbo Burns with. Well built and durable. Even Cliff Lett of Associated fame used to drive and win with one.

[steviej]

I've owned the Hyper 7 for two weeks now and I am pleased to announce that it is a very nice package. It comes with a ton of hop-ups including a optional torsen for the center diff. The buggy handles as good as my RR, if not better. Here is a link to the pics I took while building the buggy. Everything you see in the pics comes with the Pro kit. http://community.webshots.com/album/19944220JusSbMOHit
P.S. if you change the size of the pictures to normal, you get the best images. :)

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[ReMeDy]

Sexy pics bro. :cool:

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[Nitro_Man]

Oh that thing is sweet!!!! :eek:

[makaluch]

I spoke with a racer on EBAY who was selling his 7.5KE after racing the Hobau Hyper 7. He said he smoked his brother and his 7.5 with it. The word is that it's lighter and out-corners the Kyosho's. I'm interested to know about if it's stable in the straights too. My thoughts are to go with what works, even if it costs an arm and a leg for the hop-ups. I've seen a few VERY LIGHT MP 7.5's. It's after about 500 in extras though.Has anyone raced this thing yet? Any reports on it's durability and performance? :confused:

[steviej]

Two Hyper 7's raced in Hamilton Ontario last night, one TQ'd and cleaned up in all of his races until he ran out of fuel, less than 50 feet from the finish line in the A. Mine, well I hit head on with another racer that had spun around at the end of a long high speed straight. I finished the race but was out for the duration as I had a broken shock shaft and no spare parts available. I found out today that the shock shaft from my Mugen RR will work as a replacement. :)

[losifastguy]

hey i got one question with the graphite shock towers wont they break ?

[steviej]

Ofna decided not to use graphite towers, they were worried about the towers breaking.

[ofnaman]

I broke my first part ,well I stripped out the top hole in the front knuckle. I think it was my fault ,I used old thread lock. So far I love it .It handles better than some of the 7.5's I have seen and this thing tackes off quick,I think it is geared for tight turns rather than speed runs because its meant to race. Overall supremly happy.

[Lost Racer]

ummm..I want one. http://www.plauder-smilies.de/verlegen.gif

[losifastguy]

i was wandering do you have to buy it in rtr form or they sell them in just a kit?also i all aready got all my elec so i just need the kit any where i could find just the kit it doesnt have to be pro version?

[steviej]

The Hyper 7 comes in two vwerions, a RTR version which you probably wouldn't want because you already have the electrics. The other version is the Pro Kit which includes four diff's, the extra one is a Torsen for the center, ($100 option part)it includes a set of four hex wrenches, very nice quality. It also includes two sets of shock springs, three different front hub carriers, to change caster, it comes with a header and pipe, quad brakes. This is a very nice kit for the money, very easy to drive, and is proving to be very durable. You live in Vegas so the closest one to you that I know of is NitroHouse.com. This is not a plug for them, as I bought mine from my LHS in Niagara Falls. :D

[makaluch]

Steve - What did you drive before the H7 ? And how does it compare ? I know it all comes down to pure driving, but better equipment changes the learning curve. I'v owned my XR Mugen for about four months now and I'm amazed with the speed of the top locals at Bear Creek. The leaders of the pack drive Kyosho, Mugen and Thunder Tiger Limited's. The equipment is all comparable.So I guess the real question is where are the strong and weak points in the H7 package ?Thanks ! ;) Mark

[Kevbo6204]

MAn I have to get one of these!!!!
How much did it cost for the pro kit?
What remote is included with the RTR?
And finally where can I get a one>?
Thanx much
Kevin

[steviej]

Mark, I have been running the RR this season, I bought it because the Hyper 7 has been so long in coming out. I really like the buggy, it seems to turn better than the Mugen. The durability it great, I had an unavoidable wreck at the end of a long straight when the guy I was chasing spun and we met head on. The shock shaft broke but can be repleaced but ones from the Kyosho and the Mugen RR, so I didn't have to wait for replacement parts. The buggy is on par with the 7.5 and the XR IMHO. I haven't found any weak points yet. I think Rickster (don't know his real name) runs at Bear Creek he is one that has been doing some of the R&D with the buggy, introduce yourself and he will be willing to help you out. further. Bill Schults or any of the crew from National R/C can point you to Rickster if you have any problems. Hope this helps.
Steve

[steviej]

Kevin, The pro kit is around $459-469, I believe the RTR comes with the Airtronics Blazer Radio and NitroHouse.com sells the buggies.

[Shakedown]

Steve, please tell us about the pros and cons of the H7. Are the suspension arms as flexy as RC Nitro magazine described it? How about wear on items like outdrives/dogbones and such?

[steviej]

I don't see any difference from the Mugen RR to the Hyper 7 as far as arm strength.I have had a couple of high speed crashes and broke a front shock shaft and the front bumper and the arms have held up fine. The Hyper7 seems easier to drive. I was kinda holding on to my RR until I decided which buggy I liked best, and I am proud to announce that my son now owns a fairly new Mugen RR!

[Lost Racer]

Hi Steve. I read that the Hyper 7 comes with 2 sets of springs. Are one set just your normal soft silver? And what are the other set?

[steviej]

The buggy does come with two sets of springs, the black set seems to be stiffer than the purple. I haven't used the black springs yet.

[maxxxracer]

That thing is sweet.

[Ubergamer]

Wow, Im speachless.. it looks like Ofna has really reinveted themselves.. this is a BIG step up form the other cars they offer. And to include a torsen diff? Wow. I still like my storm more tho :) Only thing i dont think is good on them is the graphite shock towers. Im shure you loose weight.. but one hit and they will be gone.

[Shakedown]

Wow, I just got through looking at the GS Storm Pro on the TWF8 website and must say i'm impressed. Very nice and a lot of cool aluminum stuff too. So now i'm torn. H7 Pro or Storm Pro? Decisions, decisions.

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[steviej]

Ubergamer, when RCCA did the review about the Hyper 7 it had graphite towers, the production kit comes with black aluminum towers. :)

[Shakedown]

Hey Steve, How does the internal parts(diff gears, ring & pinions, etc.)look? Are they quality stuff like the Japanese cars have? What type of metal do they use(pewter, steel, etc.)?

How is your H7 so far as far as wear, damage and performance? Thanks.

[steviej]

Shakedown, the gears seem to be made out of the same material as the Mugen, they are nice and smooth as is the Torsen diff. I have had several crashes and the buggy seems very sturdy. I broke a shock shaft and the front bumper but as hard as I crashed something had to break. :rolleyes:

[makaluch]

Bottom line. Does the car help you to be faster ??? What was your prevoius buggy ? Also, how does it handle a tight track? and a long open one too? Sorry so many questions. I'm just interested in going faster and not wasting money on repairs or "necessary" upgrades. Thanks ! ;)

[Ubergamer]

Shake.. i would have to say the GS, cause i know they use better plastic and have a better rep. (Altho that might change for ofna with the H7.. i dunno)

[steviej]

Dr, I think I can drive this buggy at faster speeds on my track than I could my Mugen RR with the same motor, it really handles WELL!
I have a straight that is 125 feet and it handles the straights great and handles the tight turns much better that the RR. I gave the RR to my son and we're both happy campers, and no, he can't keep up with the Hyper 7. :)

[machinehead]

I need some help with a decision. I have a Worlds II that is about a year old. I am trying to decide if I should continue to upgrade it, like with torsen diffs, or if I should break down and buy either this Hyper 7 or the Kanai 7.5. I am partial to the Hyper because eveyone has the Kyosho and I hate having what everyone else has but at the same time I don't want to end up buying this now and then eventually getting the Kyosho and wasting twice as much money. I am sure we have all done that, try to save a buck but end up spending more in the end. So what do you think? Is this car a viable alternative to the Kyosho? Could my Worlds II ever compete with either of them?

[cnk]

Hi everyone. . .well. . I finally took the plunge and ordered a Hyper 7 Pro a few days ago. It's coming this Wed. and I can't wait to get it. This is my first nitro and I need a little help with what engine to get. I've decided to start with an O.S. RG engine, but Tower Hobbies lists 2 of them. I posted a question on the Nitro forum which explains my confusion, so if anyone can answer it. . .I'd be greatly appreciated. Here's the link: http://www.radiocontrolzone.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=56617

Before I start building it. . .does anyone have any tips or things that I should be careful to look out for?? Thanks.

[SeanCnln]

Hey there Steve. You haven't replied to my e mails:confused: Not talking to me. We need to catch up. ;)

Sean

[winning edge designs]

I biult and ran one at our regionals,in Florida.It was my first major race running an 1/8th scale. There were factory Mugen and Kyosho drivers present. I Qualified 3rd,but overtightened my steering servo saver and broke the servo in the main. I was in 2nd,but dropped to 7th after bustin the servo with 8 minutes left in the 45 minute A main. I have to say the car was very impressive,not even taking into account the price!
I bought mine thru superior Hobbies............Here is a pic,of it,which I painted of course,:).http://www.jconcepts.net/gallery/1596/images/jims8th-2.jpg

[Shakedown]

How much did you pay for it for at Superior?

Are those the kit tires in the pic?

Is the pipe comparable to NovaRossi's and Picco's?

[winning edge designs]

Shakedown,I payed only $449 at superior hobbies. I bought the Omega Picco Competition engine there too,for $219....It's is very fast for the money,imo it is plenty for any good 1/8th scale driver!

The tires and wheels came in the kit,although I ended up using Diry harry tires at the race,the kit tires worked well,but the kit inserts felt too soft. I was also afraid of breaking the " 5 spoke" wheels,so I used Ofna dish wheels for racing. ..I only mounted the kit stuff for testing and setting the engine and car.

The included pipe is a bit louder then a paris pipe,probably more comparable to the picco pipe. I thought it was good,definatly good enough for my needs so far and no extra money!.........Jim:D

[Shakedown]

Jim, did you find any weak points about the car yet?

What's your opinion about the quality of the materials(metal/plastic/machining)?

Was there any hand fitting needed?

Thanks.

[winning edge designs]

Shakedown,actually as far as parts quality and fit,I was very impressed. Ofna has been making kits for quite a while,but not at this level much lately,so I expected to do alot of "fitting",but didn't need to at all!

I would honestly place the parts quality even with anything from Kyosho or Mugen. The only thing I did notice was the rear arms have some flex,when twisted at the rear hubs. I don't see it as a problem,but it may bother someone who thinks it needs to be more ridgid there....NOTE:The front tires don't hit the body as was said in the car action article. If you look closely the tire was coming unglued on the authors car. The car also does now include front turnbuckles at all 4 adjustment points as well!

I didn't break a single part all weekend. Although I have been racing for about 16 years now,it was my first 1/8th scale race (other then two times at a club race a few years back). Maybe I drove too clean knowing I didn't have a single spare part with me at the race? :).....Jim

[ofnaman]

Im now selling it with engine and electrics or without . With everything it will come with the kit which features lots of carbonfiber and aluminum parts,thorsen center diff,cvd's front center rear,nylon case,and allen wrench set. Plus an RB Concepts 5 port off-road buggy non pullstart engine with less than 20 tanks through it, Airtronics Blazer with dual rate steering 75 mgz am with a Hitec 615 bbmg servo and a nmh 1100ma receiver pack. I paid $790 for everything 5 weeks ago have driven less than 20 tanks through the whole car asking $640 for everything or $420 for just the kit which was $469. It will be $15 for shipping. If you want pics email me at jra111@aol.com or if you have any questions too. Im selling because Im going into the army and should be leaving soon. I also have excellent ebay feedback under jra111.

[machinehead]

Too high. My buddy just bought a Kyosho Kanai used with engine, radio and a huge box of parts and a bunch off hop ups from a guy at my LHS for 600. You can not expect to get your money back with this hobby. IMHO

[winning edge designs]

True,even a car that was a good real to begin with has limitations on it's resale. Usually in the R/C world,if you can squeeze .50 cents on the dollar you're doing well!.......That would put the whole deal on about a $400-450 range.

In fact a friend of mine bought a Storm Pro with good servo's and engine as well as spares and custom painted body for $408!.......Jim

[cnk]

I just got my Hyper 7 Pro and was looking through the directions. . .it shows how to set up a standard 2 disc brake, but doesn't show how to set up the 4 disc brake. Did I get the wrong manual?? Or is it just left out??

[machinehead]

Welcome to the world of Ofna instructions! They are all like that! My worlds II was the same... I thought "cool, it comes with an extra set of brakes!" lol

[cnk]

So I guess I just have to build it based on what the pics look like huh?? That kinda sucks. . .oh wells. . .at least I'll know I did it wrong if I have extra parts!!1 ;)

[ofnaman]

I usually buy and sell R/C's all the time and my last 2 I sold was a .21 Tmaxx which I had for a year and had about $1100 into and sold it on ebay for $950 and a monster pirate which I had $330 into and sold it for $300 . I did decide to keep my Hyper because I found out after basic training I can have my wife send me my Hyper when Im in my advanced individualized training. So yay I will keep it.

[cnk]

Was hoping someone would be able to help me with this. Don't know what diff oil/grease I should use in my new Hyper 7 Pro. What's the difference between oil and grease?? Also, I have another post:
http://www.radiocontrolzone.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=57173

If someone could answer that question, I would appreciate it greatly. Thanks guys!!

[winning edge designs]

CNK,I biult mine without any of the addendums also,they are available from Ofna if you need them.

You will notice the brake assembly has fairly long bolts,so the other pair of rotors and pads will fit. Just stack the parts in the same fashion as the single rotor set-up. The same thing goes for the chassis braces,it's not a big deal to figure out the braces go in place of the rod assemblies,etc. The wing mount braces are the same deal,just look at the extra parts and hardware and you'll see how they will replace the cheaper parts shown in the manual.....easy.

For the diffs,I used 1000 wt rear,5000 wt front and 7000 center. The heavier the center diff fluid is the more the rear wheels will drive the car,sometimes this can cause a push on power,but it may help on slippery tracks. Oil and grease are both petroleum based fluids,the only difference we need to be concerned with is viscosity,or thickness. The higher the number,the thicker the fluid is........It goes into the 90,000+ wt etc for greases. It is actually measured by seeing how long a measured wieght takes to sink a certain distance in the fluid...............Hope this helps,Jim

[winning edge designs]

Ofnaman,it's cool if you can find a sucker to buy used stuff for a few dollars below what brand new never used equipment would cost. I wish I had your luck,but I was never the used car salesman type. I always had a bad habit of telling people,"will it needs this and that,plus one of these".......I've seen some of the junk on Ebay,in fact i've seen bold faced lies about products,like the Matt Francis truck a guy was selling. I just don't have the stomach for it...........................Maybe that's why i'm always broke?...............:),Jim

[machinehead]

Same here. I am the only mechanic that can't turn a buck on used cars. I always end up putting more money in than I can ever get out.

[cnk]

Winning Edge Designs, thanks for the help. What if I use the Torsen diff instead of the standard diff. . .do I need to open up the Torsen diff to put oil in it or should I just leave it alone?? Also, I managed to order 1000, 3000, 5000, and 7000 wt. oil from a hobby store nearby. I was looking at Kyosho's oils. . .they list them as 10000, 30000, etc. Does Kyosho just add an extra 0 on their weights?? Are there any other things I should keep an eye out for when building?? Thanks a lot for the help!!

[ofnaman]

I never said I lied to people to sell it . Take for instance my Hyper that I was selling but now am keeping. It is really brand new thats the bottom line ,all I really did was build it and break it in ,Had someone bought it I was knocking $150 and it had not even done one jump. Same with my monster pirate I boiught it because I was told the hyper wasnt coming out for many more months then I just broke it in with like 8 tanks saw nitro house had the the hypers in stock so I put it the MP on ebay ,it was in perfect condition. My .21 T I had for a year and was pimped out But I did lose about $175. So I just want to say my deals are good and I dont cheat anyone ,all my feedback is excellent and everyone has been Happy.

[SeanCnln]

Kinda like driving a brand new car off the lot and in your garage. Maybe new and hardly used but a serious drop in value.;)

[machinehead]

Ofnaman, I was not saying you are a crook as much as I am a terrible salesman.

[ofnaman]

Hey no prob guys , Im just happy I found this message board . I love 1\8 Ofna buggys and love to talk about them . Since Im new to this board where is everyone from ? IM from California and have been into ofna buggys for 6 years. They take alot of abuse and come back for more ,thats why I like them . Plus they are fast out of the box. Anyone have any home vids to send me ? I got a bunch.

[winning edge designs]

ofnaman,don't take my post the wrong way,please. Typed words are tuff to get the jist of. I was implying more that it takes a bit of luck to sell for a decent return. Also that sometimes it's better not to give out more info then is needed for the sale....For example,would you tell a potential buyer they could make a brand new purchase for only $75-100 more?,for an item your selling for $800?
There is absolutely nothing wrong with getting as much money back as possible!!!..I have heard of people running a car for a season and making a PROFIT on Ebay afterwards! That's where being an educated consumer comes in,or a good seller!

[ofnaman]

I have now broke one and stripped the treads on the other. Both have not been very hard crashes either. I also this last time broke the left hub holder but lukily I just changed it to the 22 degree set up. Any one else have probs with the aluminum steering knuckeles?

[MustaFaH]

I love the 1/8th scale beasts, but I'm a student, so I'm not exactly rich. the RTR (though I'd prefer a kit) sounds nice because it's got everything for a reasonable price, but I can't find any info on what the rtr is missing. Any1 know what exactly is in the RTR kit (ball bearings? metal gears or plastic? universal shafts?).
Also if I did buy the pro kit what would you recomend as a fast and reliable engine for racing?
I have a kyosho mp6 sports which is fast and fun but not quite racing material and I figured instead of spending a bunch of money trying to upgrade it why not just get a new car. Also, would any1 recomend the mp7.5 over the hyper 7 and if so, why?

[winning edge designs]

Mustafah,you can check the details for the ofna kits on ofna's site at www.ofna.com. I believe thier kits may surprise you as far as completeness.
I also believe however that the kyosho 7.5 is probably a better car handling wise,slightly at least. I would rate the Hyper 7 higher in the durability category. And the Hyper 7 is obviously much more dollar friendly. It includes things like rubber sealed bearings, optional castor blocks, 6 CVA axles, hexdriver tool set,etc., the Kyosho doesn't.
For engines I chose the Omega/Picco Competition 5 port. It is rated in the middle of the high end engines for power. (2.4hp) The engine cost $220 at superior hobbies where the Hyper 7,is $449 as well.
You'll have plenty of power if you stay in the 4-5 port range with reasonable expense. The 7,8 and 9 port engines will give more power,consume more fuel and cost alot more..........Hope this helps,Jim

[BoozzZ]

Hyper 7 Pro is a good kit from what I hear from some reliable sources. Nice price, good quality parts (it even includes both a torsen and a normal center diff, so you can choose which one fits you best), and graphite parts all over it. Look for parts availability in your neighbourhood.

If your LHS has parts for it, I say go for it. If it doesn't have parts for it, don't buy it. Mailordering takes too long. Mugen, Kyosho and ThunderTiger are also worthy alternatives to the H7 Pro, and if your LHS carries parts for one of them, consider to buy one of them.

The engine: Don't believe what manufacturers say about their engines hp/rpm wise. Omega/picco competition is ok, but $220 is too expensive for it. Do not mistake this engine with the Ofna/picco competition. This is an outdated Picco model, with very incorrect hp ratings on ofna's site.

You can also look into the CMB Buggy SSi for about $230 (this is a very good engine!), R&B CS 5 port for about $170, Picco G1 (same as omega competition, only without boost bottle, should cost you around $190), R&B S7 for $210, or if you want some cheaper models the R&B CE for $125, or the OS Max RG for $129. You can also look into the 3 port Novarossi's, but they're hard to get at the moment.

Personally I'd go with the CMB, since it's fast, runs cool, is reliable, and it also has a special tapered piston, so you only need to break it in one tank idling.

[lotus1]

Has anyone had a chance to compare these two? Am trying to decide between them. Any help? THanks,Mario.

[cnk]

lotus1. . .go to http://www.rcnitro.com Click on the Articles link, then the 1/8 buggy showdown link. The article talks about the 9.5 and then there's a sub-section mentioning the Hyper 7 Pro. The 9.5 is supposed to be the replacement for the Worlds II car, but in my opinion you pretty much can't go wrong with either car.

[winning edge designs]

BoozzZ,I know the engine in my car is a quality higher end engine,by the Hardened back plate,oversize head and 5 ports. The only 1/8th scale car that was faster at our regionals on the straights was a Mugen guy,running a 9 port on-road engine custom prepped by thier engine man....but he Barely made 5 minutes on a tank,where my engine combination ran almost 8 and a half on a tank at approx 240 degrees.
The Picco competition engine your referring too was available at Superior as well,for about $45 more,with a boost bottle. Which most of the racers I talked to before my purchase said made tuning less reliable. The two engines side by side looked to be "Identical",as far as heads,port castings,carb,etc. Are there other differences I didnt catch,besides the "boost Bottle"?


Lotus1,as far as the two cars go,I'm not so sure about the article in Nitro,or RC Car Action. Since in the Hyper 7 article,they talked about the tire hitting and didnt realize the left front had come unglued......They also complained about soft suspension,but on my car the front arms are fairly stiff,however the rear can be twisted a bit from the rear hub. The only 9.5 I saw had the same arms on it,so i'm not sure if they are available in more then one compound of plastic composite or not? They also complaied about rough track handling of the "ofna car" in the nitro shootout. MY Hyper 7 recieved a TON of positive comments at our regionals about how it was the best through the mogul section where everyone was flipping over. But I did change springs and oil from kit set-up. Btw,I ran the event without a single spare part for the car,nothing broke the entire weekend.
I would say since the two cars have the same suspension geometry and the Hyper 7 comes with the tools,graphite and purple hardware,chassis braces,wing braces,torsen,etc. go with the Hyper 7,of the two "Ofna" choices,imo.
........hope this helps,Jim

[lotus1]

Thanks for the replys. The 7 does seem the better deal. I did wonder about the shootout as to whether they used the stock setups or not. Seems with a bit of tuning the 9.5 or 7 should be better(as posted). Looks like the 7 is the one to get. Also someone posted about the 7 getting aluminum shock towers too,so i'm sure they must have beefed up the arms too. Again thanks,Mario.AAAH,just thought of another question. Any recomendations on an engine in the 120/130.00 range? I see RB's and OS's etc. Funds and knowledge is limited,so a sport engine is preffered right now till i master the tuning thing.Of course I would like some speed also. My experience with nitro is with .12's so far.Thanks again Mario.

[winning edge designs]

Mario,if your on a budget,even if you aren't the most reliable engines on the planet are the O.S. engines. There are a few with more cohone's,but not more reliable tuning wise. Tyhe O.S. RG sport or something similar will be a great choice.....Jim

I had my first failure today of a part. In qualifying, I was trying to clear a triple jump,25 foot in length,from peak to peak. I made it three times in a row,got crossed up the third and landing right front nose down,HARD,on the gas trying to right the ship. It made a pop noise and started pulling to the left,alot..........An inspection revealed a broken CVA axle,right front. Sheared the outer axle in two,where the pin rides thru.....But it was a Really TUFF crash. I stuffed in the other pair of MIP brand CVD's and off I went for the 1/8th scale main event win today.

[lotus1]

Winning edge,thanks,I was kinda leaning to the o.s.'s as they have served me very well in 1/10 scale.Hope to be ordering my stuff this week.Thanks again,Mario.

[kazuya]

I just wanted to say that i love my H7.:D

[Nitro_Man]

Kazuya,
Do you have any pic's of it? If you do post some, i'm sure everyone wants to see them. Later

Jarad

[winning edge designs]

Not sure if I posted a pic of my Hyper7 here or not,but here it is...........file:///C:/My%20Documents/Image%20Expert%20Images/September%2018,%202001/Image011.jpg

[cucountry]

Well you guys have definitely sold me on getting the 7 pro. Im moving to Ocala florida next year and they have a great track and they are now running the 1/8 buggies so im going to order my pro soon and get it all ready by the time i move. Maybe ill get to race you some day Winning Edge Designs. Let me know where you race. I cant remember where kissimmee is but i will hopefully be traveling on some races too.

[JonRullan]

When running my H7 I get about 3/4 through a tank and my brakes total fade out. Its like there is no braking at all. I'm using a Hitec 625 mg servo for throttle/brake.:confused:

[winning edge designs]

cucountry,Kissimmee is about 1 and 1/2 hours south of Ocala. In fact I race in Ocala when the state series off-road goes to that area. I also have several friends who race there!.....We'll hook up for some bench racin' i'm sure!


jon,the most likely problem is the brakes are adjusted too tightly,when your off throttle. This drags them and really get em hot!.......If this happens,no brakes once they reach a fairly high temp. Try loosening the free float adjustment. That is make sure the pads can move around when the brake cam isn't touching the calipers. The rotors should be able to rattle around a little. Then you may have to reset your brake adjustments.............Hope this helps,Jim

[JonRullan]

Thanks WED, I'll give that a try. Also does anyone know which clutches will fit in the H7?? :)

[cucountry]

Has anyone tried any of the megatech engines in a buggy? I get a good deal on them and i was just wanting to know if they are any good. Also, what weight shock oil should i be using for the front and rear. I know that 2 diffrentials come with this kit but what are the differences between them and what are the advantages/disadvantages.

[winning edge designs]

cucountry,i'm running MIP springs up front,black ofna springs included in the kit in back. Also 25 wt up front and 20 wt in back,with std 2 hole pistons. I'm actually going to try 25 wt all around this weekend.
The two center diffs are standard and a torsen. The torsen acts like a limited slip,in that it tries to power the more hooked up wheels. This is not good on a track that has alot of ruts,it tends to make the car feel awkward and get out of shape. If you run on a fairly smooth and hooked up track though,it may make you faster!...........For diff fluid,i'm using 7000 center,5000 front and 1000 rear. I'm also going to try 3000 front and 9000 center this weekend.(one at a time of course)...............Jim

[Jamesh7p]

I really like my Hyper 7 Pro. I have an Ofna Delta Force P8. This car is great with that engine. When I jump with it it flips backwards, is that from the torsen? I wish I had some where to race though.

[winning edge designs]

James,it's tuff to tell why it's "flipping" without seing it happen. But i'll try and help with the most likely causes.
First is simply staying on the gas too long,either before or as soon as the car leaves the ground up the face of a jump,let off power. In fact using a tap of the brakes will drop the nose a bit,the harder you hit them,the more it will lower the front. Staying on the gas raises the front up.
Another other possiblity is a jump that is made erratic. you may again need to be ready to hit some brakes over that particular jump.
Last is tuning of the shocks. A stiffer rear spring,or lighter front one,will help keep the front end down a bit. The choice will be up to wether you could use more or less steering at high speed,or low speed etc. And how rough your track is.
Personally I haven't found a jump that couldn't be negotiated with some carefull approach,once you know what to expect and how to change the cars attitude in flight,with power or brakes,etc...........Hope this helps,Jim

[cucountry]

Well i bought a worlds II for now instead of the hyper 7 becuase im trying to race in nitro trucks too and i had to budget one of my vehicles. Is this a good buggy and does anyone suggest a good place online to buy parts for ofna buggys. If this buggy sucks i will probably go with the hyper 7 but im going to try the worlds II first.

[JonRullan]

anyone one else having problems stripping out the steering nuckels. I have done both sides so far. I have been using blue locktite on the screws.:confused: :confused:

[winning edge designs]

Jon,I stripped mine out today at our gas championships in Tampa. I purchased some Kyosho steering arms,which bolted right on. They seem to have more threads and can be tightened better then the stock ones.
I was actually leading the race today in 1/8th scale,until a wheel came off,from the new nuts I used and didn't retighten after seating them in during the previous run,ooops!.......I lost two laps during repairs and came back to get 2nd,in the 30 minute main,not too bad for an inexpensive(comparitively) car!
Still haven't had a chance to try the center thorsen option thoug,hmmmmm..........anyone tried it out yet?......Jim

[JonRullan]

WED, I have been using the torsen center diff, but today I tried the stanard diff out but I didn't get enough run time as my steering knuckles stripped out again. From what I could tell my car seem to handle the rough stuff better, but as I said I didn't get a good run. Did you use the knuckles from the 7.5?? Bummer about losing your wheel nuts. What engine are you running?? I'm getting the O/P 0-1. But now I'm worried about getting only 5 min tanks.

[JonRullan]

WED, do you have a part# for the steering knuckles that you used??

[winning edge designs]

Jon,I did use parts from the 7.5 front end. I don't recall the part numbers,but I will be getting another pair just in case as well. Maybe if you can find a blow-up on the kyosho site(is there one,?) it will have it. I'll be looking as well.

For engines,I started out with the Omega/Picco 5 port "competition",it was fast,but not like some of the serious 1/8th scale guys....So now i'm running the RB C4 worlds engine! This thing is a serious power!!! I'm not hurting for HP anymore.heh heh....For runtime per tank i'm at 6 plus minutes. Actually very good for an engine in this power range. I've found that a decent pit stop is much more important then mileage,as long as your over 5 mintues it's almost completely unimportant....We're doing 2 man fuel stops in the 2 to 3 second range........................Jim

[JonRullan]

WED, thanks. I was going to get the C4, I few of my friends have that engine and man does it rip!! But I kinda like using something different from everybody else. That why i went with the H7.

[99cobra1]

I just got my Hyper 7 and I have started assembling it and wanted to know if the Torsen diff is already filled with oil. Also for those of you who used the Torsen what weight diff oil did you go with for the front and rear. The instruction manuel is about the nicest I have seen. I will post a pick when I get it assembled.

[JonRullan]

I used mugen 3000 front, 7000 middle, 1000 rear silicone diff fluids. My torsen diff came with a heavy grease inside but you might want to check yours though. Awesome car!!!:)

[winning edge designs]

99cobra1,I opened the torsen up to see whats inside myself.It's a heavy red grease. But there looked to be room for oil,so I added a little 7000 wt,very little,to only take up some of the air space. I haven't ran the car with it yet,but I am going to try it this upcoming weekend in georgia.
I run 7000 center,5000 front and 1000 rear.......Jim

[ofnaman]

I have also stripped the left and right knuckles. Im glad to hear the 7.5 ones fit because I bet they are made with a harder material unlike the hyper 7 ones which seem soft. I hope someone comes out with stiffer a-arms for it too because thats the only thing people can say bad about it. I did see where it does kind of suck to have flexable a-arms I crashed pretty hard and it bent my front left cva but didnt break my a-arm so it must have flexed pretty far. I would rather replace $12 a-arms than $40 cva's. I have the RB concepts 5 port nonpull engine and it was flying. I love this car !!! Ill try to put up some pics of a vid I have of my hyper clearing a 25ft double with ease.

[JonRullan]

The 7.5 part# for the knuckles is kyoc4400

[Ryan123]

Hey I just got myself a Hyper 7 Pro...now I need a steering servo! Will the Hitec Digital 5645 that puts out 133 oz of torque at a .18 transit time do the job well? I plan on racing just at a club level. So will the servo do a good job?

[JonRullan]

Ryan, the 5645 will do just fine for steering, make sure that you get a high capacity reciver pack as the digital servo will drain a standard pack very fast. This car is awesome!!:) :)

[Ryan123]

Thank you very much for the fast reply :) I already picked up a 1100 6 volt hump pack, thank you again

[dubbs22]

there is a new off road track that just opened in suth miami . it must be nice . it took 2million to make the track

[winning edge designs]

I'm using the Orion 1100 mah reciever packs,I'm easily getting the full days racing with it. Qualifiers and a 1/2 hour main,so it's the one to get!

I also broke a front CVA,when landing hard crossed up on a 25 foot triple jump. I used Mugen Shiny CVD's,with Mugen wheel hubs and nuts,fit on perfectly. I only did this because the Mugen parts where available and I couldn't get the Ofna parts at the track. Not sure yet if these parts are more durable or not..we'll see.........Jim

[Jamesh7p]

dubbs22 Do you know the name or address of this new track? Do you know anything else about it?
I run a trinity 1100 mah reciever pack and it works well

[dubbs22]

the track location is 20800 sw 117th ave miami fla . comming south on the turnpike take exit 11 (cutler ridge blvd) make a right (west)on 211th pass us1 make a left before road separations into dade county rycycling station track is on right side once you enter the station . the web page is www.miamiraceway.com

[dubbs22]

correction miamircraceway.com

[98vols]

Ok about 2 weeks after I got my Hyper pro I stripped out the steering knuckle and the cvd got out of align and snaped. I got the part number for the steering knuckles yall are talking about for the 7.5 but I need some front cvds bad I was told december 20th before the hyper 7 cvds are available. any one know what will work???:confused:

[winning edge designs]

98vols,you can use Mugen CVD's and mugen wheel hubs and nuts. It's a total bolt in operation.

Side note: I was TQ at the colonels classic in Georgia this weekend. And had a 2 lap lead when a marker with radio trouble jumped the track onto the straightaway,while I was full punch heading down it,perfect timing for a broken front A arm. Split right at the mold line where the hinge pin goes thru the arm.......Oh well,the car was awesome and I was the only racer to turn 11 laps all weekend. There were a handfull of Mugen Team drivers and one from Crono as well..................:),Jim

[98vols]

you wouldn't have a part number on those cvds, hubs, and nuts would ya. My hobby shop just started getting into 1/8 scale stuff
and don't have any parts on hand to match up.

[winning edge designs]

Sorry,no Part #'s. I used the MIP shiny CVD's for the mugen MBX4-RR front and the Mugen MBX4-RR wheel hubs and nuts. The wheel hubs are needed because the CVd's use a larger pin hole for the mugen hubs,the Ofna hubs use smaller pins.......Jim

[br5]

Sorry about the new thread I was trying to post a new topic.Anyway has anybody used the fioroni knuckles for the 7.5 on the h7.

[ofnaman]

I was jumping huge this weekend about 45ft and about 18ft high off my launch ramp and on about the 6th jump kaabloowey snapped both gront shock shafts. When I had my gtlx I would jump anout 45ft far and 12-15 ft high but I did it anout 100 times and nothing ever broke. Does anyone knoe if the MP7.5 a-arms might fit or even the old ultra worlds arms? I almost with I would have got 2 ultra world II's for the price of my H7 pro because I just Bash and it has broke 4 times now.

[MISTERgadget]

http://www.sgrid.com/2001/november/track-4.jpg

Miami R/C raceway is proud to announce its first race! Come on sunday, november 25th, for the JLap thanksgving turkey race. Booby moore and team mugen USA will be there. saturday is practice day from 9 am to 5pm, and sunday registration is from 7:30 to 9 am, and racing starts at 11 am. Fees are 10 for practice and 10 for the race. It promises to be a great day, so come and show support for miami's first permanent rc off road track.

http://www.sgrid.com/2001/november/track-3.jpg

http://www.sgrid.com/2001/november/track-5.jpg

visit our website for more information, including rules and directions to the track.

Miami R/C Raceway Home (http://www.geocities.com/gadgetracing/miamirc)

[winning edge designs]

ofnaman,you seriously are surprised by a car breaking going over a 45 foot,18 foot high jump?.............I have two times during all of the running my Hyper 7 has seen. One was a front A-arm breaking from a VERY high speed impact at the perfect angle. I called Ofna about it and they assured my they haven't had problems with arms breaking on the car,in fact they say the steering knuckles have been the only problem and they have CNC ones on the way. My other broken part was a CVA in the front,landing off a huge 25 foot long triple on the right front wheel hard,under power. When the arm flexed it bound up the CVA and popped it in two at the pin. I have mugen Shiny CVD's up front now and Kyosho 7.5 Aluminum knuckles,problem solved..........Jim

[winning edge designs]

Those are MIP brand shiny CVDs,btw..........Jim

[ofnaman]

Mr winning edge desiegns I figured out it was my fault that the shock shafts broke. What I did was the night before I had set the ride higher for more suspension travel. Well what I did was put the lower shock end in the inner hole and the upper shocks in a lower hole but forgot to check if if the chassis bottomed out before the shock did but in this configuration it didnt. So even though I landed flat both shocks bottomed out and snapped. After $4.75 out of my pocket and back in buisiness. I was just upset because I had a GTLX and literally abused and only broke a gastank and a rear a-arm holder. But I have accepted the fact like you said IM gonna have to expect these things the way I drive. I love my hyper 7 pro . Has anyone else noticed that its lighter so it seems to me alot faster and jumps higher than other 1/8's?

[winning edge designs]

WOAH!,cool pic............Serious airtime in that pic,haha.

It's cool that you have a place to jump and wheel your car around. As long as you expect things to need attention after that kind of airtime!

I do think the new car accelerates awesome as well. So it's not only a good looking race car,but a true performer! I recently TQed at a major 1/8th scale race in georgia with my Hyper 7 by about 5 or 6 seconds. So the car is capable,I even like it better then my old MBX-RR,nevermind the fact it's cheaper and comes loaded for bear!.....Jim

[Serius Black]

Does anyone else not feel that the instructions were lacking for the Pro kit? They should have added some sort of addendum for the screws, since so many were changed from the standard Hyper 7.
I'm very impressed with the quality of the kit so far, I still feel that I got a heck of a deal ($429 at Ultimate). Tools, carry bag, and a pre-trimmed and pre-masked body? Not to mention the Torsen diff, carbon fiber, and purple aluminum stuff.
Now I've just got to hang on to hope that we'll have three tracks to run on locally this summer.

[Ryan123]

I just bought the ofna hyper 7 pro kit :) what advice would you give me on doing a good job assembling the kit? Any tricks? What is a good starting point for the diff oil/grease? I will mostly be runing on everything with it lol...dirt, street, everything :)

[winning edge designs]

Ryan,if your racing it,you'll want to start with 1000 rear,7000 center and 5000 front oil/grease. If you need more turn in and can give up a little forward traction coming out,go lighter up front,to 3000. Alot of the tuning is done with diffs in 1/8th,in case this is your first.

As far as assembly,set all the trick items aside in a seperate pile,every time you think your missing a part,look in the pile for a similar replacement. They don't include an addendum,so this technique will keep you from getting stuck. The brakes get doubled from what the photos show,the middle caliper shoe gets pads on both sides x2. Also they never mention lube on ALL the outdrives and axle pins. I used white grease,sine it's very sticky and leaves a thin film,so you don't need alot. Last things are brake caliper bolt adjustment. Make sure you leave enough play in the brake assembly to let it roll freely,otherwise the brakes will overheat. Also adjust your servo saver on the loose side,then tighten it as much as you need for good feeling steering thru bumps. I overtightened mine and broke two servo gears in two races in a row,so it took two loosening sessions,LOL.......Hope this helps,Jim

[98vols]

Ryan, You might want to go ahead and upgrade your front steering knuckles to prevent any down time because the stock ones will fail on you more than likely. I used the Kyosho like alot of the other guys from this post. The part number is 4400 and they are very inexpensive (I paid 13.00). when My nuckles striped out I broke both front CVA cups and Have been waiting for two months for a new pair but I will have them today.

[br5]

I have had problems out my diffs I noticed that you cant tighten the screws down or the diff locks up so I went ahead and put it together when I noticed the lube was coming out of the screw holes what do i do to fix this.

[winning edge designs]

br5,I had to assemble my diffs without the shims on one side of the side gears,where the seal is. Then after a few runs,or a full weekend worth of running,I dissasembled the diffs and installed the shims in them,under the side gear pins. Also it's important not to overfill the diffs,more isn't better. Only fill the open diff up to the cross pin level,then assemble.

I also forgot to mention,one of my diffs leaked thru the grub screw hole,where you thread it in after installing the drive pin. I used a tiny peice of thread teflon tape on each 4x4 mm diff grub screw. And I am also using the Kyosho front knuckles........Jim

[br5]

I need a setup I race on a flat four corner track no jumps. I know thats weak but its the only track in my area.And i was needing to know wich engines is better the rb sport s7 or os 99b I have them both and im going to keep one of them and sell the other.

[winning edge designs]

The O.S. is a little more user friendly,or it's rep is anyhow.But the O.S. V99B is also a race engine where the RB sport is well,a sport engine.

For set-up,I run std pistons undrilled,Losi oils,30 wt oil front,with black kit springs,30wt oil rear with black kit springs,std locations for camber and shocks.20 degree castor blocks,max droop all 4 suspension arms(arm almost touching chassis,after filing down edge 45 degrees). I use 7000 center diff,5000 ft and 1 rear diff oils......Hope this helps,Jim


P.S.,I ended up qualifying 2nd at our state series race.I shouldn't have taken it so easy and ran conservative thinking I could run harder after a safe run next round.It rained out the rest of the event!..ouch!

[Ryan123]

Hi, I need some help, my diffs in my hyper 7 pro are really leaky, I made them as tight as I could but they still leak, they leak around the set screw that you put into the diff housing and where the big ring gear goes completly around the diff housing, I physicaly cant make them any tighter, but they still leak! I need your help asap, thank you

[TeamCarnage]

W.E.D. -- Good Racing Jim!! I just put together my H7, what made you 45 the chassis for more down travel? I haven't raced this car yet, what kind of track do you race on with this setup? What engine/pipe combo are u running? I've got a RB WS7 on the way!! Can't wait to let this buggy rip!! Any other tuning tips would be appreciated. Ever run across setup sheets anywhere?

Later,Nick TeamCarnage Racing

Merry Xmas to all....

[winning edge designs]

teamcarnage,I dremeled the edges down after the sharp corners bagn to tear into my suspension arms. I found that if you run any significant droop,the arms hit on rebound,etc. So dremeling the edges down a bit,not until it's a sharp edge,helps the arms last longer.

I haven't found a set-up sheet or website with set-ups yet.But i'm sure with this cars popularity it shouldn't be too long. I'll be posting my set-ups for all the cars I race at my site shortly. www.jconcepts.net
ttyl,happy holidays!...Jim

[br5]

I just ran my h7 for the first time today and ive got to say this is the baddest buggy ive ever owned or seen.I was wondering does any body know what pipe is best for the os rzv99b,the stock pipe is alright but I wont a one peace setup,and has anybody made any hop ups for it yet such as stiffer arms.

[winning edge designs]

The popular opinion on pipes is that RB #63 is the best off-road pipe. I've only run the stock pipe so far though,on my RB C4 engine,it seems to work great. I'll try the RB #63 myself soon and compare them too..........Jim

[br5]

w.e.d. I started to get a c-4 how does this engine run and I checked out your web site,I was wondering how could I get a h7 body like the one in your paint gallery.

[winning edge designs]

BR5,The C4 comes in an on-road and an off-road version,be sure to get the larger head off-road engine and it is a monster!

As far as paintjobs,the Hyper 7 in the website is mine,sporting my paintjob. Before changing out the engine. If you'd like something similar it is no problem. My E mail is on our site,contact me so we don't make this sites moderators upset,:)......Thanks for the interest.....Jim

[Herpetologist]

winning edge design, where did you get a clear body that fits the h7?
Thanks,
Dustin

[winning edge designs]

Herp',the Hyper 7 RTR comes with a painted body,but the Pro version comes with a clear one. You can order one thru Superior hobbies,where I get all my stuff. 407.834.9299. Tell them Jim Myers sent you,maybe they'll hook you up a little bit. They sell Ofna and other stuff at REALLY good prices to begin with. I got my Hyper 7 Pro for $439!!! and my C4 for $285!!!.............Check em' out.....Jim

P.S.,the Kyosho and Proline 7.5 bodies fit the Hyper 7 as well. But you'll have to relocate the holes and trim to fit,etc.

[bad andy]

Hey guys, I just wanted to check in now that I've finished building my HYPER7 that santa brought me. I've driven it about 3-4 tanks and am starting to get it dialed to my liking. I like this car a lot. It's a HUGE improvement over my old MP5. What do you guys think of a 10k center, 5k front, 3k rear diff setup? Also have you guys drilled your pistons? The holes seem so small, the only way I can get a fast enough response on the shocks for it to be as supple as I want to is using 10wt. shock oil. I think I need to drill the pistons so I can vary the tuning a little easier. What do you guys think about the clutch? I'm running a C4 and the clutch seems to slip a little off the line after it warms up. Any recommendations for a clutch that will pick up higher, more in the powerband of the engine, making it a little snappier? Anybody showing their hyper 7 on their website anywhere so I can check other setups?
Thanks for any info or input you guys have...bad andy

[HyperMan]

Quick question. Back on the first page, it shows a pic of the guts. There is an orange/red cotter pin attached to a plastic hole. What is that hole/holder for?

TIA

[Jamesh7p]

That is where you put the transponder for the lap counter when you race. At least that is what I think.

[MotoMaxx]

Hey Bad Andy I drilled all my shock pistons (all 4 holes) with a 54 finger drill. THen filled the fronts with 37 1/2 wt. and the backs with 30 wt. and it rides like a dream. FYI the purple springs are stiffer than the black ones. I went with the purple ones.
Hey W.E.D I took apart my CVA's and Dremeled a 45 where the dogbone comes in, not alot just where they would contact each other and that seems to remedy the snapping problem... Just a thought....Moto

[winning edge designs]

Badandy,
The stock pistons are not drilled,they need to be drilled to your liking. Or use thinner oil if desired. I use the stock pistons with 30wt oil front and rear. I am going to try drilling out to 55 hole with same oil next race. I'm trying to keep as much pack as possible,but haven't been on any really rough tracks yet to worry about the static damping too much though.

Motomaxx, The black springs in my kit are stiffer then the purple ones. We did a test pressing the two together and the black spring collapsed the purple ones,by alot. The purple springs are longer however,likely to make up for thier softness. My snapping CVA was due to a severly twisting front arm on a hard crash under power. The axle popped out and jammed into the outdrive and the HorsePower snapped it on landing.Are you dremeling the outdrive cup?.........Jim

[MotoMaxx]

W.E.D. yeah right where it meets the dogbone on the inside. Not severely just enough to take that edge off. So far it seems to be working:D Moto

[bad andy]

hey MOTO and WED, thanks for the tips and feedback. I've got some dialing to do for my HYPER but so far I'm completely satisfierd with this car. I've got a pic of my car if anyone is interested in seeing it. Anybody else have a pic or site featuring their HYPER7?
http://www.myplanet.net/martyr2/h7pic2c.jpg

[Ryan123]

I have completed the kit, installing the engine and radio gear. All I have to do now is break the engine in...I can get the starter box to turn it over really easily but the engine (RB concepts Worlds S7) just wont fire, I tried it at factory settings and have leaned it out because when I would let the engine spin on the starting wheel for more than 30 seconds the engine would flood its self and seaze up. Do you guys got any ideas on how to get the darn thing started?

[winning edge designs]

Bad andy,there are pics of my car on our site,www.jconcepts.net

Your ride looks sweet man,good angle shot!


Ryan,I would take a good look at the glow plug and ignitor.Remove the plug and install it in the ignitor(,be careful it will heat up quickly)check to see that it gets bright orange. If it doesn't you've got a dead plug or ignitor. If it does,you need to clear out the engine,by turning it over without the plug in. Then install the plug,adjust the carb to 4 turns out high end and flush with the housing on the low end setting,maybe 1 turn in if this is too rich for an idle. Before trying to fire it again,make sure you have fresh 20 or 30% fuel,no carb leaks and free flow from the pipe outlet while spinning the engine,which should be very tight at top dead center.I could not turn my C4 over by hand with the plug installed.............Hope it starts for you now,if all the above checks out,it will!.............Jim

[tarvymoto]

could only find one pic of your car at your site? I know you are a busi man. Could you post a recent pic of your buggy ?:rolleyes:

[Jamesh7p]

I was just wondering where you hook up the throttle return spring if you use them.

[winning edge designs]

travy,I'll post some more pics after we get back from the Region 4 champs this weekend. Did you see the pic in the race section,showing my car in flight,right before I downsided on a crashed car,haha.


James,I used an additional hole in the servo horn for the throttle and a TeamLosi linkage kit. I installed the eyelet in the kit onto a motor mount bolt and ran the spring to it from the servo arm. Make sure it will lightly pull off the throttle with the engine running and the servo's off(reciever off) on a car stand........Jim

[bad andy]

Quite easily, the simplest method...
http://www.myplanet.net/martyr2/H7throttle
This is probably the simplest way for a thottle return system. Pop a rubberband around the backside of the carb and below the servo's linkage.

[HyperMan]

Hey guys,
Ive seen a couple of posts that are talking about drilling out the pistons in the shocks. Ive got the RTR.
My LHS is recommending the following:
Front: 2 #55 holes filled with 35wt
Rear: 2 #54 holes filled with 30wt.

Does this seem right?

Also, when i dig into the shock, will it be obvious where i should drill threse holes?

[MotoMaxx]

Hey Hyperman, the holes you need to drill will be obvious there is a sort of indentation on the piston where you can drill. As far as which drill bits to use I used a 54 racer's edge finger drill and run 371/2 oil in front and 35 in the rear. Which oil you use depends on your track and driving style, you gotta just experiment and find out what you are comfortable with. Your LHS sounds to be good ballpark figures as far as oils go though.

Hey W.E.D, are you running the stock clutch shoes? If not what ones are you running?

Hey Guy breaking in that WS7, that engine is kinda moody while breaking it in. I went with a hotter glow plug for break in. I went with an RB4, it comes with an RB6 that seemed to take the flame out part of the equation out of the picture. You should switch back when you start to lean the engine for tuning though. Good Luck...Moto:cool:

[gedertr]

I have a GT LX and can only dream of a Hyper 7, but I have one question...What about the 9.5? I have read all of your threads and I am very excited about the Hyper 7, but is Ofna's 9.5 comparable?:confused:

[HyperMan]

Oddly enough, the pistons were already drilled. It looks like a 53 or 55 (which ever is smaller than a 54) size hole. So it must be that the RTR kit has drilled pistons where the Pro kit does not. I did a side by side comparison, and i cant tell a huge difference between the stock shock and the modified one. We'll see how it goes when i take it out to the track.

[winning edge designs]

Moto,i'm running the stock shoes now,but i'm going to try some MIP or the new Mugen shoes soon.



As far as a comparison,of the Hyper 7 and 9.5 goes,it's really simple after having someone explain it to me. Ofna broguth a Kyosho 7.5 to two companies. Ho Bao and Hang Nor. They asked each to copy it,with only minor changes,none to suspension overall geometry( most likely scinerio).....The two cars are very similar,but parts aren't readily interchangable. From what i've heard the 9.5 actually has stiffer suspension arms and the Hyper 7 is softer,but more forgiving. In cold weather the Hyper 7 does have supposedly fragile arms,but I have yet to have any additional trouble( did break one in Hot weather on a VERY big crash,on coming traffic on the straight!)....................Jim

[HyperMan]

Hey Guys,
I seem to have misplaced my manual for the hyper .21 engine. Can someone please post the factory needle settings for break-in and regular running?

TIA
-Hyper

[bad andy]

Hey any of you guys running the stock 3-shoe clutch, what do you think of it? Quite frankly, perhaps it is only me, but it seems to pick up too soon. I'd rather it pick up a little later-more in the powerband of the motor. I have remedied that however by drilling some nice holes through the shoes. I like where it picks up now better, but I feel the clutch begins to slip as it warms up. Anybody else think so? I picked up an OFNA 4-shoe kit I'll install and try this weekend. Just wondering what anyone else's thoughts were on the stock clutch?
thanks guys-

[MustaFaH]

I've noticed the clutch shoes seem to slip. I was breaking in my hyper 21 engine on the buggy just yesterday and it started to get like no acceleration, and the clutch bell wasnt turning so i thought something was loose. But when I disassembled the engine clutch assembly later everything was tight, tho there was powder from the clutch shoes, I don't know what the deal is because I haven't had a chance to run it again....any thoughts?

[MotoMaxx]

Ok I replaced my stocker clutch shoes with the GS shoes and springs. I am running the RB World's S7 and the GS clutch seems to have that bottom end punch that it lacked with the stock Ofna shoes. I asked at my LHS and he said that RB engines seem to gain bottom end with a later engaging clutch...lighter, because of the powerband of the engines. I am running on a tiny indoor track right now and the GS seems to work. Now I gotta figure out the right tire foam combo for this track...Good Luck...Moto

[windellmc]

I see that you are racing in Indiana? Where are you racing 1/8 at in the winter?

[MotoMaxx]

In LaPorte this guy won the lottery I guess and bought an old Carter Lumber yard he turned a part of it into a offroad track. It's kinda small ( lap times 20 sec. and under) but it's alot of fun. THe track is great for 1/10th scale trucks, gas and battery, but he lets us run the 1/8th buggys there. We have a pretty good turn out and they move through the program at a good pace. Well if your interested in coming out let me know and I'll e-mail you directions...Moto:D

[ofnaman]

Has anyone used a different brand of body besides Ofna ? Do you have any Pictures?

[gedertr]

I want a better spring/damper setup for my GTLX. I have seen to drill out my pistons with #55-#56 drill bits and use about 30-35 wt oil. what about springs. Are the ofna yellow springs stiffer than the ofna red?

[NitroOwnsYou]

Who carries parts for the Hyper 7 online?? Ace hasnt got them on their site yet. Anyone else sell em? I cant wait to get my JP racing Pro 99 engine for the buggy. Man should this be sick!

[winning edge designs]

Superior Hobbies carries some parts and they can order anything they don't have in stock. They are in the Car Action and Extreme mags. I got all of my parts and my car thur them,$439. for the hyper 7 pro!..............Jim

[jasonrcfreak]

Nitro!! You're getting a JP Black for you Hyper 7?? I hear those things are crazy fast. I know one thing...........they're crazy expensive!! :D

[winning edge designs]

Nitro,one things for sure,the high end engines make a BIg diference on tracks with long straights and buig jumps,good traction,etc!............I'm using the RB C4 off-road engine,9 ports,serious HP,especially with the Broward Precision Cylinder head!....Got it at the same Hobby Shop,Superior,for $289!.....:),Jim

[AFSilverstar]

you guys should take a look at this site, those who are deciding whether to get a ofna mugen or whatever I personally thing that Infernos are better overall , take al ook here http://www.rcnitro.com/articles/buggy_showd.asp

[NitroOwnsYou]

LOL they put a Kanai MP7.5 against other $450.00 buggies. So that point of the inferno being the best is a lil mute. Ill race my Hyper 7 against the Inferno once my car is set. Its mainly the driver behind the buggy when yer talking those buggies.

[AFSilverstar]

um yea loook at the diff between inferno and 7.5 sports what universals? and some other misc dumb stuff

[winning edge designs]

Kanai,approx street price,$650-$750.
• Metal-shielded bearings
• Pins that hold shocks on lower arms always loosen.
COMMENTS
If cost is not an issue and you want the 1/8-scale buggy with the best overall performance, the Kyosho MP 7.5 Kanai edition is for you .


9.5 pro,available at approx. $430-499.
• Soft turnbuckles.
• Flexible suspension arms.
COMMENTS
The 9.5 is a capable performer with a long list of key racing features at a competitive price.

The Hyper 7,available at approx.$430-$499.
>It's suspension parts are more flexible, and that translates into greater durability for the average driver. Does it mean that the Hyper 7 isn’t a racer?
No—not at all.
>If you have the skills, the Hyper 7 can win for you, and if you tend to smack the boards, it might be the best OFNA for you.


I don't think anyone is saying the Hyper 7 is the better car,obviously the Kyosho had better be or they wouldn't sell any. Especially considering you could almost buy two Hyper 7's or 9.5's?..................I use the Hyper 7 and have 4 races under my belt in 1/8th scale. I have qualified in the top 4 at EVERY race i've been to. In fact my first race was our region 4 championships,where I had 3 tanks of practice on the then brand new car,with a medium level sport engine I qualified 3rd. I broke a steering servo while battling for 2nd in the 45 minute main......................I think combining all things,price,tunability,handling,etc. The Ofna buggies in thier latest form are the best deal available.

Don't think so,try adding up the Kanai,aluminum tools,standard front diff assembly,pipe,manifold,tires,wheels(to get rid of that nasty green,ha)........The kanai may be a better deal for someone at the top level,racing at the nats,or if expense is no object,but it isn't the best overall,IMO........Jim

[HyperMan]

O.K. So You can use Kyosho knuckles as a direct replacement. Can you also use Kyosho shocks as a direct replacement?
A wild driver ran into me today and busted my shock shaft, i want to get back up and running ASAP. If the Kyosho's will work i can be back in business tomorrow, otherwise i have to wait a week and a half for my LHS to order.
Also, where would you recommend that i order a "slew" of spare parts from?

TIA

-Rich

[MotoMaxx]

The GS steering knuckles from Dynamite will work as a direct replacement too. They are aluminum and machined, I am putting a set on mine after loosing the 3rd one so far, stripped out the bottom screw. Good deal too, my LHS has them for about $21.

[Herpetologist]

MotoMaxx, can we get a part number?
Thanks,
Dustin

[98vols]

21.00 seems kinda high for some steering knuckles the kyosho kuckles arn't but like 12.00 and are the best made that I have seen.

[AEAddict]

hey guys. I'm a 1/10th scale racer... but I went over to my new friends house who happens to have a Kyosho kanai worlds edition Inferno. I have NEVER EVER felt so much power, speed, handling, and turning before in an rc car.

I love that car... like I have never even before. the problem.. $$$$ I don;t have $749.99 for a darn kit!

so here I am looking at the Hyper 7. Which, if you ask me is QUITE THE CAR

What's the price on the PRO kit ? .. I want to put the O.S RV-10B engine in it.


Lemmie know..

thanks..

[winning edge designs]

98vols,the $12 knuckles are cast aluminum,the $21 ones are Machined and MUCH stronger. Fioroni knuckles are even tuffer and are $80 approx.


AEaddict,you can pickup the pro kit for about $430-$499 dollars. The guys at Superior sell the Hyper 7 Pro for $439 and the RTR Hyper7 for $499 I believe?..........Jim

[AEAddict]

Would you recommend it as my first 1/8th scale ? ... I really want to get into those....

they just glide over everything, turn over everything, and are SOOOOO FAST. I just couldn't get over the RAW POWER of that RV-01B engine in my friend's Inferno.

[NitroOwnsYou]

Well to get into the buggy scene cheaply you have this option OFNA Ultra MBX R2 (http://www.ace-hobbies.com/Images/Ofna/mbxr2/) Although I have no first hand experience with that buggy, i have good faith in it due to it being a OFNA. I like their price to quality ratio. IMO your money goes along way when you buy an ofna. But about the hyper 7, this buggy is pretty much designed to be an all out racer. You wont go wrong if you do purchase it! I havent even driven mine yet and am allready ordering another also!!I am still dying to get my motor and to light up all 4 on asphalt. Whats all your responses to the OFNA Hyper for some backyard fun. I know it wont compare to my Jp Pro 99 but will it be a decent motor to power it around so I dont have to beat on the race engine?

[AEAddict]

Hey NitroOensYou... I wanted to jump right into the racer segment.. I found a HUMONGOUS out-door racetrack.. sorta near me... ane a LOT of people run 1/8th's down there.

The straight is almost 100 feet, and it's soo big you have to use a BOBCAT to make changes. hehe..

Another reason.. SPEED. These things are INSANE.

so.. Into the world of buggies I go!

[MotoMaxx]

Hey Herp, that part # is DYN7806, they are nice, only problem is they are red but, a little oven cleaner will take care of that. BTW what do you know about Veiled Chameleons? My wife wants one just figured I'd ask.

[winning edge designs]

nitroownsyou,the ofna hyper Engine is a bit weak for serious thrashing. It's not a slow motor,but after running the JP engine you would be dissapointed probably. The Ofna/Picco 01 Comp is a better choice,a little more money,but not as much as the JP engines with FAR more HP then the hyper!...........Jim

[AEAddict]

Whatta you think of the new O.S RZV-01B engine? .. would that be a good combo with the Hyper 7 Pro ? ..

that's the setup I'm after... my good friend has a new O.S RZV-01B engine.. and MY GOD ... it goes from about idle to full throttle in NO TIME, and has SOOOOOO much power!

hehe

anyway

[winning edge designs]

AEaddict,ANY O.S. engine is a great engine!.........They have been known for the best carbs in the industry for some time and recently have begun making some serious HP!....The new ZO1-B is an animal,as is thier .12,the TR(I have one in my V one R!)..............The engines available today to us,are the ones the pros could only get a few years back,any engine over $250 is PLENTY usually!...I run The RB C4 in mine,i'm clearing nasty jumps with ease,TONS of "squirt!"and top end!...........Jim

[Herpetologist]

This isn't the place but oh well, we can pm each other for more. MotoMaxx, if this is a first time reptile or Chameleon I wouldn't recommend it. If your wife is set on a Chameleon get a Jacksons Chameleon. They are MUCH hardier and easier to care for. I personally go for more of the snake seen, I have also been breeding for two years now. This definately is a big comitment which I am sure you are aware of. The vields tend to get pretty large as far as chameleons go but they require great care to thrive. You must maintain proper temp and humidity which can be hard to do in a screen cage. Ohh ya, you know they will need a screen cage instead of a glass one right? I have been into the reptile scene way before the RC so feel free if you have any questions, personally more on snakes. Once you have been around you know people and have connections too. I personally know Dr. Shawn Lockhart from Hawkeye Herps, his web site is way outdated but he sells quality stuff. I don't know if you know about leopard geckos but I was into reps when they first came out. I had to have one, I paid $250 at harford Reptile breeding center. Now look at how cheap they are. Still waiting for prices to drop on Ball Pythons and I might start breeding them.
Dustin

[NitroOwnsYou]

Damn still no block yet :( should be any day now! :D Only thing about 1/8th scale is the large cost:mad: Well I think Im gonna buy another Hyper 7 :D I like to own 2 of everything. and a great backup car also. I got 2 OB4s and am getting a EK4 for my B-day! BUt with the EK4 I have to buy my gf a diamond ring:rolleyes: LOL ! Well I got screwed for not buying a Monster Pirate, but Ill track down a non rtr version to fufill the 2 MT's that my addiction requires! and hey maybe I can let my friends race my backup car ROTFLMAO :p

[bad andy]

Anyone want to see a Crowd Pleazer body on the Hyper 7?...
http://www.myplanet.net/martyr2/h7spider3.jpg
http://www.myplanet.net/martyr2/h7spider2.jpg

[HyperMan]

Now that just makes me plain jealous! :)
Looks Great.

[AEAddict]

how did you go about painting the wing ? ... doesnt the paint chip right off ? ... or do you HAVE TO leave it white.. like it comes from the factory? ...

Lemmie know.... cuz I wanted to make mine match my body too..

[br5]

w.e.d. Were did you get a broward head I want to get one for my europa s7. Do they make them in purple and how much do they cost. ae addict I run a os rz v99b in my h7 and its great so I could just imagine what the v01b could do.

[winning edge designs]

br5,they are available from www.browardprecision.com Thye have alot of stuff available,they make them all. but he sells em'
QUICK,so you'll need to check with Allen. Tell em' I sent you and maybe he'll hook you up a little?...........they are usually $50 I think,depending on the application.........Jim

[bad andy]

Hey AEADDICT, the wing was actually dyed, not painted. I used RIT fabric dye (got from CVS) The color won't chip off, but if you dig deep enough into the wing (by crashing or whatever) the white part can still show through. When you dye it, keep the water as hot as possible (just shy of boiling) and let the wing sit for as long as you can. I've done this with wheels too.

[AEAddict]

Awesome. Thanx Bad Andy.. I'll have to Dye it 8-)

[phatcat]

i was going to get the gs racing storm rtr, but when i saw the ofna hyper 7 rtr review in rcca i changed my mind. what are the pros and cons of the hyper 7 rtr and the gs racing storm. i need the information to make sure that i buy a good buggie. thank you

[MotoMaxx]

The only weak link I've noticed on the Hyper 7 is the steering knuckles. I replaced mine with the Dynamite GS Storm knuckles and they work great and Dynamite makes a good quality product. Sounded like a commercial huh? Alot of the guys I race with have sold their Storms and bought Hyper 7's. Hope this helps....Moto:cool:

[AEAddict]

How could the steering knuckles be weak if they're REALLY-THICK cast alloy ? ...

How'd you manage to break one ? Running into a stop sign pole at full throttle or something ?

[TeamCarnage]

Moto is no basher, the H7 knuckles are junk. the early production knuckles didn't have enogh grip in the mounting holes. the holes were oversized, resulting in stripped out screws. GS is the ticket till Ofna releases the CNC units due out any time now..

Racing on a small indoor track with a strong RBWS7 might have something to do with it though!! J/K Later, Nick

[AEAddict]

Carnage... when is Ofna releasing the strnger CNC'd Knuckles? I'm buying a Hyper 7 PRO (not RTR!) here in a few weeks.

I'll wait a little longer if I need to to get the better knuckles.

Will they be purple ano'd to match the rest of the chassis? 8-)

[TeamCarnage]

AEAddict- My LHS said they'll be here VERY soon! If your getting your H7 kit in a few weeks, do yourself a favor and get either the CNCs from Ofna or get the GS or Kyoshos. Save the kit ones for spares, unless you hear of a running change to better units. I don't know if the aftermarket knuckles are anodized. The GS units are RED and clashes big time with the purple. EZ Off oven cleaner takes care of that!! Later,Nick

PS You a RC10GT guy?

[AEAddict]

Used to be an RC10GT guy! hehehe..

If there's ever a question between losi or Associated... I'll take the associated ANY DAY.

Anyway.. I got one more HUGE question..

when I get my motor.. I'm getting an O.S RZ-V01B engine.. ok..

what CRANK does the Hyper 7 PRO kit need? SG, Standard? what? .. I wanted to get the SG because of the built-in pilot shaft.. those run more true..

thanks for the help guys!

[winning edge designs]

heh heh,everyone has got thier Favs' in the gas truck wars,but there are about 5 or 6 realistic choices in 1/8th,EVEN WORSE!haha.

I also had my knuckles go "poof" on the first crash,basically within 3 heats they were both stripped...I now use the kyosho units,until the Ofna CNC parts are available..........I use the RB C4 in my H7 Pro buggy,it rips!

I used the SG crank in my car,it fits right in,"like a glove"!....Jim

[NitroOwnsYou]

Ok guys I recieved my 2nd Hyper 7! :D The first was a brand new barely used RTR. That will be a backup roller. Now on the the pro. I installed the cheap a** front knuckles and the part that the knuckles mounts to(dunno what its called??) well you got the upper a-arm coming into that where you use the pivit rivet in between that plastic piece that mounts to the knuckle. Well it says to use that pivot ball 7.8mm, but it doesnt fit into that plastic piece :( any suggestions? And what is the stock shock oil that OFNA gives you? I got from 30W to like 60W, but I was just curious. It doesnt look very pure either, almost brownish. Anything else to look for? I know Im using up some loctite! :D Oh the center torsen diff. You guys take the grease out and run oil? Any other tips send them my way! :D


Well anyway I f'ed myself by forgetting to order the dif oil, but the other is able to be up and running. Im just waiting on my starter box, and some 30% fuel for the JP engine :D

Bah Hopefully my Monster Pirate comes tomorrow, :D so Im not just stuck to looking at my buggies and onroad cars :(

Thanks,
Jr

[TeamCarnage]

Nitro- The C hub uses 2 little bushings that you run the screws through into the knuckles. they really aren't pivot balls.
I always use Losi shock oils, my LHS always has tons of it in different wts. i'm running 30WT. right now. I haven't tried the torsen diff YET.

I see you guys aren't messin with sissy engines!! I'm waiting on a WS7, upgrading from a OS RG. Good Racing,, Nick

[AEAddict]

When i get pulled head over heels into something.. I DO IT RIGHT! lol :D (the fast engines)!

Ok.. so the piece where the upper A-Arm part connects to the Knuckle is weak ? erm ? ...

how much are the Kyosho Knuckles, or the GS Racing ones ?

[Jamesh7p]

I just finished breaking in my RZ-V01B, man this thing is awesome. On my street I am able to pull the front wheels off the ground a little bit. It is so much better than my ofna delta force engine. I think the Kyosho knuckles are $13 and the gs ones are $21.

[Sike]

AEAddict I believe this is the part (KYOC4400, $10.49 towerhobbies).

ok this is my first post here and I am really intrigue with a buggy, especially the hyper 7 pro. I've done a few reasearch here and there about the buggy. I really want an off road r/c that can do jumps, fun to drive on dirt and be competitive at the same time.

I currently own a nitro 4tec that I can't even believe myself on how much I ended up with. I bought it RTR last year but now with about spending over $2,500(that includes everything related to r/c, broken parts, 3 stock engines, MT12, CVDs,2 CVEC, JR XR3 and the works) I should've got an MTX2 or something similar that would cost a lot less. It's all good though so I now know which is which. That's why I'm going for something which has just about the optional parts there is.

I first thought of the ofna R2 something for $180 but I remember what I've been through and now want the Hyper 7 Pro w/RB Concepts Worlds Buggy engine. I believe it's 1004 part number ($289.95 Acehobbies). I'm not sure if this is the C4 everybody's been talking about. I have $900 budget and that includes the above, FM reciever w/crystal, starter box maybe a set of another offroad tires and a set of onroad, Maxx wheels adaptor for OFNA.

I apologize for having a post long but I just wanna know what I'm getting into with some help from people that has experience with the vehicle. Income tax money is almost here so I'm doing as much research as I can.

Thank you very much
-Sike
>=]

[AEAddict]

Hey guys... what kind of lube goes in the TORSEN center diff?

I know it works completely different than the standard one..

I want to use that one...

[winning edge designs]

RB WS7,$259 at Superior hobbies. Hyper 7 Pro,$449 at the same place.


I'd recommend a good steering servo as well,like the 94358 from airtronics,or similar.

The torsen diffs use heavy grease rather then oil ,I believe it's 80,000 wt or maybe even higher. Keep in mind they won't help if the inside wheel lifts off the ground on either end. The Torsens are best when one tire gets "lighter",but not un loaded........On very rough tracks they seem to make the car a little less "controllable".

Sike,not to try and change your mind,but even if you spend big bucks you can possibly still have trouble with engines,chassis parts,etc...Maybe less hop-ups will be "needed",but not many really are,just cool mostly......imo,Jim

[Sike]

w.e.d. - I appreciate the thought. yea, I understand this hobby is kinda high maintenance but that's the price we pay for fun in this hobby :) I just don't want to get something and end up buying the better parts for it and after I'm done, the cost will be more than buying a pro car. I also learned that every hardware for the r/c shouldn't have to be from a hobby shop (screws/body clips etc.) to keep things down at cost.

I get tempted on better stuff easily (to a point) so I'll just get the better once at the start. I'm thinking of getting the 625mg and 645mg from hitec. seems pretty good for $45. I have dirty harry XTR tires on the way and some proline firm inserts. hope this is a good start.

question with the kit.
hyper 7 pro with onroad tires. like Pro-line road rage, how fast am I looking at? (stock)

does it come with decent tire inserts?

do they make 2-speed for it? is it such a good idea?

W.E.D. - the engine I'm looking at is RB concepts worlds buggy 1004. I think that's C4. is this the engine you have? reliable?

Thanx in advance
-Sike
>=]

[NitroOwnsYou]

Originally posted by TeamCarnage
Nitro- The C hub uses 2 little bushings that you run the screws through into the knuckles. they really aren't pivot balls.
I see you guys aren't messin with sissy engines!! I'm waiting on a WS7, upgrading from a OS RG. Good Racing,, Nick

Your close its not what the knuckles pivot on, but rather the plastic mount for the knuckle that the upper A-arm connects to. Look at the knuckle mounted to the plastic. at the top you have a u shape where the eyelet connects to make the knuckle move up and down. Thats where Im f'ed. It doesnt fit in there with that rivit that snaps into the eyelet on the upper a-arm.

Jr

[winning edge designs]

sike,the top speed on the stock geared hyper 7 will be in the 35-38 mph area. the car is geared for off-road action,but can be geared higher. It will get there in a hurry though,haha!

I'm not sure about the part number from my engine,I know it is the highest HP buggy engine they(RB) make at approx 3.0hp and 9 ports. They have in power order for high perf. ,the WS7,the Worlds WS7,the C4 buggy and C4 on-road...........Jim

[Sike]

w.e.d. - I checked Ace hobbies and yes, it is the C4 buggy. I can't wait to get this setup.

I bought my step father an electric stampede and our neighbor have an HP rush. We made a ramp and do some jumping, the stampede handles it pretty good but not too far. I'm thinking of doing some jumps myself at our local flee market with about 1/5 flat dirt. Does the hyper pro do very good jump at full speed with a 45 degree ramp? Is it really that durable like what everyone is saying?

I have no experience whatesoever with buggy and not seen a compititive one in action to tell you the truth since there's not a lot of people here with r/c and to those who do, they have mtx2, serpents and hpi.

I guess I'm silly enough to spend around $1,000 for a new r/c experience. I just hope it is wisely invested.

TIA!

[TeamCarnage]

Sorry, I misunderstood your problem. Most guys are having problems with the actual knuckles themsleves... anyway, the only thing that comes to mind is that maybe you substituted the wrong pivot ball into the top arm mount. If i recall theirs another ball with a flat surface on on side, Hope this helps!

Sike-- You'll have an awesome buggy when your done. The H7 jumps well, but I don't subject my buggy to flat landings after long jumps. Try to downside a jump when possible(build another ramp) It has something to do with that$1000+ investment:)
Later, Nick

[Sike]

TC - I'm new to buggy terms :) , I assume your talking about all 4 wheels hit the ground at the same time when you mean "flat landing". downside a jump like instead of having a 45degree angled ramp, make it like 25 or 30? that should make having a longer distant jump.

I ordered the duratrax quick ramp. I believe they are from duratrax, it is around $10 at tower.

thanx again

[Seal]

Heres my mate dave's Hyper 7 pro.....

http://www.geocities.com/dave_beeby/twin21

[Jamesh7p]

WHOLLY CRAP!!! How fast does that thing go? That is so cool.

[MotoMaxx]

That's pretty slick Seal what are ya callin it?

Hey Carnage what;s happenin? Did you get your WS7 yet? I think I'm gonna get an HB .18 for the T-Maxx to replace the Hyper .15. Is Carnage II gonna run his next season? I might run both unless it gets too hairy. I do have to reconfigure the layout a little though. I should be at the Fish Store next weekend, I might go on Wednesday and run the buggy a bit. Maybe the T-Maxx too. Well see ya soon...Moto

[TeamCarnage]

Moto- Ians shelving the Maxx til summer. He's concentrating on getting his XR running and dialed. We both have WS7s coming from Ron, SUPPOSEDLY this week. As far as running 2 classes this summer, its hard unless theirs a bunch of heats to give you time to make adjustments and routine maintenence. I might run buggy 1 week and gas truck the next... who knows?

Hope to see Team Orange at the fish store tomorrow!

Later, Nick

[Seal]

its not mine, its my mate daves. he hasnt run in the second engine yet. hes gonna eventually kit it up with an intercooler and front disk brakes (yes, working disk brakes in the wheels).

Its gonna eventually get t-maxx wheels and body.

Check out the link for details:

http://www.geocities.com/dave_beeby/twin21

[NitroOwnsYou]

Whats the run time on that thing? :D does it get a chance to warm up before it runs out of gas? :D Bigger tank and it would be almost perfect! Oh and whoever has to clean that thing.......Good luck!:D


Nice project though!

Jr

[AEAddict]

that twin engine Hyper 7 is INSANE!! eheha!!

I love it !!
the air filter is a little bit "excessive" shall we say ? rofl

[Seal]

Regarding the air filter box.....

go here for why its so big

http://www.geocities.com/dave_beeby/engines.html

Read up guys...

[LongRat]

:cool: That is my Hyper-7 up there. The 7 is a great buggy, but I have never run it in stock form, I bought it for the twin conversion project. It will do about 4 mins on a tank I would think, but as was said I have not run in engine no.2 yet so have yet to see. There are a few little probs to get over with a car like this (weighs a ton), but I am sure the power will be worth it. It is very impressive running on one engine, and that means the running engine has to turn the second engine's clutch bell, AND move that weighty beast around.

The noise is awesome though, the air box acts like a sound amplifier and it growls really deep. With 2 engines... untouchable. :eek:

[NitroOwnsYou]

Long,

Hey you have some great skills, and some excelent knowledge I see. Why not mill up your own Chassis? I think you could make an unstoppable car/truck with your own custom chassis. I love your project, but that chassis is limiting your talent a bit. I guess what Im saying is I want to see the ultimate truck made by you! If your ever interesting in making a custom truck, maybe I could get ya some funding or some Hyper .21's :D

I hope the project goes well!

Jr

[LongRat]

Hey Nitro, thanks for the compliments!

Don't know if you checked it out on the site, but I actually have made a chassis 100% custom before, just not for a truck. It is my record-attempt speed car to try to beat Cliff Lett's 111mph record for 1/10th scale. More speed runs will be happening very soon when I finish building the infra red light gates to measure the speed accurately. That car took months to build, I did not really feel like going through all that again so soon! However I will maybe build a big custom 4-link truck some time. Check out the speed car pages:

http://www.geocities.com/dave_beeby/index.html

Oh yeah, the speed car maxxes out on 18 cells and a ModelTech brushless motor, so she ain't slow! Motor >100,000RPM :eek: :cool: :D

[AEAddict]

hey guys.. I just got done e-mailing Ofna about the front knuckle situation.

The correspondant said that "CNC Machines knuckles are now availible" ..

They're availible seperately... which I think is a CROCK!

ahhh!!! WHY !!!

how much do they cost !? ...

are they Ano'd purple or anything !? ...

[AEAddict]

hey guys.. I just got done e-mailing Ofna about the front knuckle situation.

The correspondant said that "CNC Machines knuckles are now availible" ..

They're availible seperately... which I think is a CROCK!

ahhh!!! WHY !!!

how much do they cost !? ...

are they Ano'd purple or anything !? ...

[Seal]

Haha! The deadly double post!

[AEAddict]

OOOOOOOOOOOPSSS

the darn page went corrupt when I was replying... said there was some "error" .. so I hit "reply again" and re-typed it.

O well..

can anyone answer my questions though.. and not some BS ?

[AEAddict]

What do the new Knuckles cost from Ofna ?


does anyone kno ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?

[TeamCarnage]

AEAddict- I just left My LHS with my new RB WS7:) Anyway, the CNC knuckles are on the way to his shop, I didn't ask about price or if their anodized. I'll check tomorrow Later Nick

[MotoMaxx]

Hey Carnage both you and C-II get your W-S7's? Both of you gonna be at the fish store Sun? It'll be good to see Ian round the track again. See you there...Moto...Team Orange

[NitroOwnsYou]

Pro isnt finished being built yet :D

[NitroOwnsYou]

This will probally get a Picco 0-1

[NitroOwnsYou]

This is going into the Pro :D

[Jamesh7p]

Here's my Hyper 7 Pro. It has an RZ V01B and hitec radio gear.

http://onlyonecanoli.50megs.com/h7p.jpg

[NitroOwnsYou]

Sweet sweet ride! :D

Jr

[PITSTAIN RC]

http://www.networktechniques.com/pitstain/images/95/DSC00114.JPG


and if anyone says torsen

http://www.networktechniques.com/pitstain/images/95/DSC00105.JPG

[AEAddict]

WOW ! Whatta' car bro!!

I was considering the 9.5 .. but I think I like the Hyper 7 Pro more.

[PITSTAIN RC]

have you driven or even seen a 9.5 pro in person?

i think the hyper 7 is a nice buggy also but THIS is gonna be the new flagship racing machine.

http://www.networktechniques.com/pitstain/images/95/DSC00022.JPG http://www.networktechniques.com/pitstain/images/95/DSC00023.JPG
Rear toe in adjuster
http://www.networktechniques.com/pitstain/images/95/DSC00026.JPG
http://www.networktechniques.com/pitstain/images/95/DSC00027.JPG http://www.networktechniques.com/pitstain/images/95/DSC00028.JPG http://www.networktechniques.com/pitstain/images/95/DSC00029.JPG http://www.networktechniques.com/pitstain/images/95/DSC00037.JPG

[br5]

Hey guys I just seen a h7 pro on ebay and when I was reading about it I noticed that this is the shop and track I race at and at the bottem he said one of his racers bought one from him and when he put it together every body at the shop swarmed it thats funny because that was me.Any way he has the reserve set at 399.99 if anybody is looking for a good deal on a new in box h7 pro.

[bad andy]

Hey guys, anyone know what OFNA's part# is for the CNC H7 knuckles? Anyone who has used kyosho knuckles as replacements, are there are problems with the H7pro's CVA length or anything? Any modifications that need to be done to the knuckles? Am I correct in seeing a previous post mentioning the kyosho knuckle part# as they same the MP5 used, or is there a different knuckle and part# for the 7.5? sorry about the barrage of questions guys, just looking for some info since my knuckles' lower holes have just stripped out. I would rather go with the inexpensive kyosho replacement if there is no problem with them and they do the job just fine rather than waiting for and paying more money for ofna's CNC units. Thanks guys...

[MotoMaxx]

Hey PITSTAIN, are those ano'd goodies Orange? Looks like it in the pics, I was just wonderin...No comments from the peanut gallery there Carnage...lol:D

[PITSTAIN RC]

yep all the stock alluminum parts on my 9.5 were orange and the 7075 stuff is a nice tan metal color but i felt like slappin on the graphite heres all the parts not shown on my buggy i have them in baggies right nowhttp://www.networktechniques.com/pitstain/images/95/DSC00052.JPG
and my collari super comp
http://www.networktechniques.com/pitstain/images/95/DSC00041.JPG