Kyosho MP-6

[gixxer]

Just want to start a forum for this vehicle since most of ya already know i bought this car last week because for a price of $289 i couldn't resist. Still in parts and finding time to build. I know this car is old but it looks good to me. I've alread started upgrading it b4 i built it. I bough 2 extra brakes and front stablizer. It been a long time and i figure anthing is an upgrade compared to the orginal inferno!

For those of you whom owned this vehicle does will it still be able to keep up with the new 7.5's hyper 7s and mbx-r works on the track? How much torque is required for the brakes?

[Raydee]

I love my MP6 and yes it still keeps up with all the newer buggies. Just because it is older doesn't mean it is not competitive! I will keep mine until they come out with something that I can't beat on the track!

[SoCAPhun]

Gixxer-
Have no worries, there are plenty of MP-6's at some of the tracks I usually go to...and they still keep up or beat alot of drivers with Kania's, MP-7.5's, OFNA, Mugens and etc...
Yeah, the MP-6 is a little older and 7.5's is a version that is "supposed" to be better, and many ways it is...but there are TONS of upgrades for the MP-6 out there from all the major aftermarket companies. Check out Nuova Fuor stuff, it's pretty nice.
Have fun man.

[Vmax911]

Hey, does the MP6 have front kickup?

[Raydee]

Yes all Kyosho buggies do!

[gixxer]

No, actually my original inferno don't.

[Raydee]

oh ok the mp6 does.

[gixxer]

What a good performing pipe? I don't want something insanely loud. I currently have a cvec on my usa-1/rx-b engine. It sounds great, but the monster pirate with that pipe sounds annoying. In another words whats a good sounding/performing pipe. Preferability a quiet one when i want to drive it around my yard.

[gixxer]

Does anybody try to see if the 7.5 body fit on this car. What about the rims? has anybody tried to see if the hex from the 7.5 fit so i can use rims from ofna,mugen and all other 1/8 buggies?

[Raydee]

My friend runs the 7.5 body on his MP6 but he had to hack it up to get it to fit. To get the newer 17mm rims to work on the MP6 you have to buy the 19mm to 17mm adapters. Ofna sells them.

[gixxer]

How much are they? Do they have the offset like the kyosho hex? Any wobble or good fit? Still cant find it on their site.

[Raydee]

My local hobby store sells them for around $10 I think and they are a perfect fit like the MP7.5! Here is his store link, give him a email and he will send you a set!
http://rccargods.com/

[MBX-4er']

get the Novarossi EFRA 053. Sweet pipe, but if your track has some room to breath, get the Novarossi 063 or 086, all very sweet sounding and preforming pipes...

Jason

[gixxer]

They wanted 7 in shipping so i think i'm going to stay with the stock setup. Do you know if the adaptor are form any ofna cars? Also i have a question concerning the diffs. They seem wet. Is that they way they are or it should be 99.9% sealed? Or refill them every year?

[Raydee]

$7 for shipping??? What a meatheat he is!! If you really need them I can send you a set through USPS, I am sure the shipping will only be a couple of dollars! As far as the diffs go mine are sealed and never wet so yours must be leaking.

[gixxer]

Thanks anyway, tower has those stock mp6 rims for under $10 which is pretty decent. I think i should of put greese on the gasket and screws on the diffs. b4 i installed them.

Wow, those 4 brakes i added is an overkill. I'm thinking about runing standrad 102 servos on the throttle now, because it might lock up? and a hitec 645 i have on the steering. Or should i get a 625 on the steering and use the hitec 645 for brakes?
the 645 are (133/.18) 625 are (93/.13). Any suggestions would be helpful.

There is a little play in the rear dur to standrad axle instead of universal but the car is looking great except needs a new motor. If i go with an v01b or picco 0-1 for speed what a good clutch bell to use? The stock 13 is good for racing i assume?

How does the clutch holding up? Is the duratrax 4 shoe kit any good? I'm putting that on my usa-1 when it comes in the mail and thinking about getting one on the mp if it works well. I burned the 2 shoe out really quick probably due to the large wheels on the truck.

Are you using the 17mm by the way?

[MBX-4er']

I would go with the OS, dont listen to the people saying that they dont last very long, they do when well taken care of, like any other engine. true, you wont get 7 gallons from it, but you will get 4+ if taken care of. The engine is super easy to tune and runs very strong. I would go with the MIP clutch for it, and a 16 tooth bell for speed, 13 for racing.

Jason

[rcpilot_971]

dose any one know where to get Nova Fuor parts for the mp 6 most shops don't stock the after market parts for the older mp 6 I thought about selling my mp 6 just couse I can't find after market parts .
my friend just bout a 7.5 & mp 6 still keeps up with his 7.5 we have the same motors so the mp 6 is still a good car

[MBX-4er']

You can get Naova Foar here:
www.nationalrc.com

Jason

[gixxer]

Mine came with chrome shocks so it's the newer version i assume. Is there any other difference between the two?

I'm just curious that the mp6-sport comes with a 3mm chassis. Is that better if it was counter sunk? Are the dimentions the same? If everything is the same expect for the thickness wouldn't that be consider an upgrade or the material is different?

[MBX-4er']

Unless they changed someting, the MP-6 Sports chassis is NOT 3mm think, it is only 2.5mm and not counter sunk. The difference is that the 3mm Internation version chassis is counter sunk and had been hard coated to prevent excessive wear.

Jason

[gixxer]

FEATURES: Aluminum Construction
Silver in color
Holes are not Countersunk.

INCLUDES: One Silver Aluminum Chassis

REQUIRES: Mounting to MP-6 Sports

SPECS: Length: 15.5" (393mm)
Width: 6.0" (152mm)
Thickness: 0.1" (3mm)

This is from towerhobbies.

And is only 38 buck and thicker than mine. What gives? Would that be consider an upgrade if i counter sink the holes?

[MBX-4er']

i wouldnt waste my money on it, get the International's chassis.

Jason

[rcpilot_971]

Thanks MBX-4ER

I will give them a try

[gixxer]

If counter sunk would that be the same thing as the international edition? I dont' understand how there is so much cost difference. Maybe supply and demand. Anyway, i don't see how the gold chassis would cost more other than it's gold. It's also thinner which is a bummer.

[rcpilot_971]

I bout a International chassis a whil back on ebay new in the pacage for 45.00 they are 109.99 at tower but I never put it on as I found a mp 6 international that was built but never run any way I cant see that big of a difference in the handling not a 109.99 any way

[MBX-4er']

There wont be a difference in handling, if there is, barely noticable. Overall the car will flex much less, easier on the diffs and the buggy itself, and the chassis will hold up better.

Jason

[gixxer]

Anybody knows if the sport, regular, and international all use the same grade of aluminum?

[gixxer]

I emailed kyosho and they said it's not a direct fit and not considered an upgrade. I thougth the hole are in the same location? Wish they'd give me more infomation.

[rcpilot_971]

are you talking about the international chassis and the stock chassis ?

[gixxer]

I was asking about the sport chassis.

[rcpilot_971]

what are you trying to do are you trying to put the mp 6 standard
chassis on it or the international chassis the international chassis is 3mm and the standard is 2.5mm I think

[gixxer]

No the mp-6 sport uses a 3mm chassis also and i was wondering if it's the same as the international chassis but not counter sunk?

[rcpilot_971]

Oh ok not sure on that one

[MBX-4er']

The Sports chassis is NOT the same as the International chassis. The sports is not counter sunk and is not hard coated.

Jason

[SCWolverine]

Hi All,
Would like some opinions...
Do you think there would be a noticable difference between universals and CVDs from the center diff? Physics-wise I inderstand the benefits of the cv joint from diff to hub, but ideally the center drives shouldn't pivot. I say ideally because after a recent "incident" I find myself shopping for a rear drive and "un-tweaking" my chassis to get through 'till Santa shows up. (said incident involved a loading dock, ramp, 50+mph, and about 60 ft of air. Yeah, I knew better, but man did it look sweet. :p )

[SCWolverine]

Not that it matters for my question, but I have a MP-6/RZ-B setup.

[MBX-4er']

MP-6 and a RZB, good combo, same setup that i have:)

About the question, i would take a good set of Universals over CVD's any day, CVD's always have the chance of falling apart and have too many peices for something that takes the roll of a drive shaft. Stick with the Universals.

Jason

[SCWolverine]

'preciate the input MBX, that has been my thinking also. Have you rebuilt your RZ? Have been looking for the differences in the cylinders of the RZ-B, V99, & V01, haven't found anything except they are three diff part #s. The O.S. website needs to list specs. Think they are the same o.d.? Just curious as I plan to pick up a couple with x-mas $. Tired of getting nickel and dimed to death, trying to stock up. :cool: Know of anyone who makes aluminum parts (sus arms...) for the -6? Don't mean to pester you with so many questions, but not many around here (SC) to talk 1/8th with. Tks again, later.

By the way, have you seen the on board glow igniter setup? Thinking about picking one up. 'cause of the temp swings here this time of year, I've been staying rich. There was an article on it in RC Nitro (or RCCA?) I think the site was jhmaeroengineering.com model obg-2(?). Thanx again.

Go Blue!

[MBX-4er']

www.generalsilicones.com

Look for the Fioroni option team parts, they make almost every major part for the 6.

Jason

[bobparki]

I need a little help with the steering play on my new MP7.5. The problem is too much play. I think. The steering plate holes and the flanged brushings under the steering pins are not a close fit. There seems to be about .020 play in each one. This can’t be normal, is it? The plate and the two pins with the bushings are $16.00 at tower. So I thought I would order them and see how they fit. Comments would be most appreciated.
TIA
Bob

[ofna_Kdog]

Hey Guys,

I just got an MP6 off of tower and after I built it I noticed that the steering is kinda stiff. Should I lossen the screws on top of the front end??? Or is this problem only because i haven't used the car yet and it needs to be broken in??

On another note, I was hoping to see some pics of your rides. Here's a pic of mine!

<img src="http://varsityboy.netfirms.com/angle1.jpg">

[MBX-4er']

About the stiff steering, i would just replace the bushings with ball bearings.

I cant attatch a pic of my buggy because its too big, but i'll get one on here anyway:) Its sweeeet!

Jason

[rcpilot_971]

is that mp 6 a international or standard mp 6 looks like it has mp 6 international shocks on it

[ofna_Kdog]

It's an mp6 but the kit came with international shocks. The chassi is gold. I'll get a pic of the internal stuff in a little bit. The engine is a Picco/Collari modified 6 port with a boost chamber. Bearings ...hmm will that make a difference?

[MBX-4er']

My MP-6..actually its not, but checking to see if this works..this is my real car! My biggest toy:D
http://www.printroom.com/_vti_bin/ViewImage.dll?userid=JasonY&album_id=44221&image_id=1&param=19288

Jason

[rcpilot_971]

so is it the new mp 6 sports that comes with those shocks

[ofna_Kdog]

(its kdog..not king...but I dont' really care)

No it's not the sport verison of the mp6. It is just the Mp6 from tower hobbies. I guess Kyosho decided to upgrade the shocks in the new kits for some reason. I'm glad they did!
<img src="http://varsityboy.netfirms.com/angleguts2.jpg">

[rcpilot_971]

thats interresting what are those kits going for now

[bobparki]

No, the steering should not be stiff, with bushings or bearings. I have built my MP 7.5 both ways and it was never stiff new or used. Now the issue of bearings in the steering plate is another matter and is what I am dealing with now. The exact correct bearing for this aplication doesn't seam to be know by many, who are willing to speak up. I am going to try a standard 4x8 flanged and see. It will probably have to be shimmed. But the four bearings (two in each) of the main steering posts are standard and no problem to replace or find. But in your case I would look for something causing the binding/stiffness as it is not the bushings.
Good Luck
Bob

[ofna_Kdog]

Bob, thanks for your advise. I'll look at the steering posts and see if there's something wrong. I think it might just need to be broken in.

Pilot: the kits were 320 on tower before the new year...but I just checked and the exact same kit is now 370 on tower. I don't know why they jacked the prices up but it's probably still a good kit to buy.

Has anyone ever used the Picco/Collari 6 port that i have? I haven't fired it up yet and i was wondering if it's any good.

[rcpilot_971]

ok thanks for the info Sorry about the ofna king I don't know where I got king out of Kdog ?? any way sorry

tryed to post a picture but it said it was to big how do you make it smaller

[ofna_Kdog]

If you want to post a picture ( a good one that's a pretty decent file size) you will probably have to store it somewhere on the net on a server. I store all of my pictures with free hosting at www.netfirms.com
Try it out and then just make an html link to your picture.

I fixed the steering on the mp6...the muffler stay was under the steering coloumn and making it hard to turn. All fixed! If you guys want a look at my old ofna....

<img src="http://varsityboy.netfirms.com/RC/P1000312.JPG">
<img src="http://varsityboy.netfirms.com/RC/buggycleannobody.gif">

[MBX-4er']

I had the pic on printroom, but they dont seem to allow any pictures to be put onto forums...i wish photopoint never got greedy!:mad: ;)

Jason

[ofna_Kdog]

DOes anyone know how i can keep my car from moving left and right when i'm using the starter box??

[ofna_Kdog]

I was at the hobby world track this weekend and a bunch of guys said that I should put a front brace on to prevent flexing...should I do this or is it ok? I mean would Kyosho sell me a car that was going to bend?? Also...where the hell can i find those damn 19mm to 17 mm hub converters?! I looked at ace and i looked at hobbyworld...neither of them carry it!

[rcpilot_971]

yea some one told me to put the front brace on mine I could not tell a difference but I am just a nov. driver any way i don't know where you can get those converters seems like most places don't carry to many parts for the mp 6

Tim

[ofna_Kdog]

yeah...i've noticed that stores don't cary mp6 parts anymore. All they carry is 7.5 stuff. But the guys at Ace carry some stuff and they order what they dont' have in stock. WIsh I knew about this before I bought the mp6 ...i might have just gone for the 7.5

[gixxer]

It's fine i doubt many parts will break. You can alway order form tower with the cheaper shipping or parts.

My V01B should come today! To bad i have don't have time to check it out till spring break. Hopfully the engine rocks!

Still deciding on a pipe.....

Anybody know what's the quietest?
Highest performing?

[ofna_Kdog]

hey gixxer,
i've got a kyosho pipe on my Picco/Collari 6 port and it's very quiet and extremely fuel efficient. It's got a cone in the center of the pipe which creates more backpressure which pushes the excess fuel back into the engine. I've spent the entire day at the track and only ran a few tanks. =) but then again that pipe probably doesn't get the most kick. Do you want to be fast or save money?

[gixxer]

So is it more quiet than your T-maxx? If not i'd probably go with a long tune pipe for more speed. For your question i'd rather be fast.

[ofna_Kdog]

I dont' have a tmaxx...but my friend does with an OS CRV in it. No my buggy is no where near as quiet as his tmaxx! .21 will alwyas be louder . =)

[gixxer]

Here's a photo i've found of my mp6. I have a v01b and kyosho pipe that's probably going in during my spring break when i have some time away from design.

[Rick J]

I am looking for good rally-tread tires. Will be used on street and some off-road. I see the car above has the DuraTrax Street Tracs and was also looking at Ofna's Street Tire (attached). I don't think ProLine's Road Rage would provide much traction off-road, but let me know if anyone has tried this type of tire. Thanks

[ofna_Kdog]

rick i have the duratraxx ones. =) they work good.

[Rick J]

Thanks. Not sure why that pic didn't attach, but I'll go with the DuraTrax, since they are cheaper and recommended.

[ofna_Kdog]

DO I have to take the turnbucles off to adjust them? Unlike the ofna turnbuckeles...the stock ones don't have that square block on them =(

[ofna_Kdog]

Have any of you guys had problems with leaky fuel tanks??

[rcpilot_971]

yea mine leaked on my international mp 6 & my standard mp 6 leaked on the seam next to pipe I bout a new tank & put a little jb weld on it has not leaked yet & that was last winter I did that

[ofna_Kdog]

Which tires have you guys tried running for off road?

What do you think about Proline's crimefighters and Treads Cosmics?

[rcpilot_971]

crimefighters work good for me

[ofna_Kdog]

Hey guys i've got a general Q....how often am i supposed to charge my 12 volt Gel Cell? It came half charged so I've just been using it...am i supposed to keep it charged full at all times?

[Phunk_Master]

hey guys i have a MP5 and i believe they come with a 20MM wheel hex right? and i wanna get new tires and rims and i have read that the new rims have a 17MM hex right? how can i convert my MP5 to a 17MM hex? or does anyone know where i can buy 20MM hex rims?

Thanx alot

I am new here and i like it!

[ofna_Kdog]

phunk: Ace sells some 17mm hubs from OFNA that can be used for mp5/mp6 cars. I just got them a few weeks ago and they work pretty well. Installation is kinda though though, the pin that goes into the 17mm hub is a bit big and needs some force to push it in.

[gixxer]

Go to tower hobbies.

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?Q=1&I=LP3171&P=X
yellow-$7.64

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?Q=1&I=LP3172&P=X
white-$8.79

The white is still going down in price but, this is the best deal i can find. Shipping for parts at tower is only $3 so it's still cheaper than buying 17mm rims.

[Phunk_Master]

thanx a lot guys, so these wheel will just go onto my MP5 right? thanx again. Also would you guys go with Proline Crime Fighters or Dirty Harrys? i like the way the Dirty Harrys look, the Crime fighters look like the pins would come off easily, can anyone give me any info on what kind of wear you get out of both these tires? i am on a tight budget so i need the tires to go for a while but with good performance. thanx a lot!

Phunk_Master

[ofna_Kdog]

I've always heard from guys @ the track that crime fighters are the best...but i've never used them myself so i have no idea!

[SuperMaxx 21]

Weres the cheapest place to buy the mp-6

[ofna_Kdog]

prob tower hobbies.

[Raydee]

It looks like with a couple of the MP7.5 parts the body will fit on the MP6. Has anyone compared the two? It looks like it would be just a matter of changing the front and rear body mounts.

[Raydee]

TTT

[gixxer]

Speaking of bodies, tower has the mp6 body in the daily sale. Wait till the price drop all the way down! I'm tempted to get a spare if it goes down to low 20's. I was thinking about the mp7.5 body too. I think they look more slick.

[Raydee]

Well I bought all the MP7.5 body post parts and will be installing them soon. It looks like the back mount will fit right on but the front mount may need some work to fit! Another thing that I had to buy was the MP7.5 radio box and wing mount since they were all on the same parts tree! I will post a pic of the finished project.

[gixxer]

Awesome. If you get it to work let me know what items you have purchased.

[ofna_Kdog]

Hey guys...i saw this on ebay and i'm kinda dazzled....
It's a new MP5 kit that's pretty much built all the way...and it's bid price is up to 425 dollars!! what the hell are people thinking??? would anyone care to explain this???

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1706885460

[Raydee]

That's ebay for you, most likely some 10 year old is bidding on it with no money to pay for it!!!!!

[Phunk_Master]

LOL that is way too much i paid 154 canadian for mine with radio, reciever, high torque servos, engine, body, spare tires and a whole box of tools and spares! and the best car is that it was only run a couple times the engine was barely broken in! 425US is insane buy a MP6 or put some more and buy a MP7.5!

[rcpilot_971]

you can get a NIB mp 6 for 250 on ebay
the mp 5 dose not have a motor or a radio

if you look at the bid history every on that bid on it after the first two has a zero or a 2 or 1 buy there name smells fishy to me

we should all email him let him know what he is doing is a criminal act haveing his friends drive up the auction

[ofna_Kdog]

yeah, it seems like someone's adding fake bids in there. But who would actually pay for that? I mean that car isn't worth that much money so no REAL ebayer woudl every pay for it. He'll just end up with a fat invoice from ebay =) lol

[redsmurfhat]

Hey guys,
I was just noticing the gold chassis on these pics of the MP6s here. Is that the normal color of the MP6 chassis? I got the International version which was supposed to have the 3mm chassis but it seemed thin to me compared to my Storm. I thought they may have put the wrong chassis in there, but it's silver and counter-sunk so I guess it's the correct one. Are all the regular chassis gold and International chassis silver? Is there any other way to tell them apart without actually measuring the dang thing? The box was not sealed at the factory, so I just wanted to make sure I didn't get ripped off or anything. Thanks!

[ofna_Kdog]

Hey smurf,

The pics of the gold chassi are the regular mp6, not the international. So i'm pretty sure that you got the right thing.

[redsmurfhat]

Thanks Kdog. I didn't think they were trying to rip me off, but since the box wasn't tape sealed or shrink-wrapped, I wasn't sure. It seemed odd for a brand new kit... Pretty much everyone around here has 1/10 nitro trucks (T-Maxx and RC10GTs), so I had nothing to compare it to except my other 1/8 buggies. Oh well, time to go kick some a**!:D

[ofna_Kdog]

if everyone around you has 1/10 scale....get ready for people to be complaining that you broke their car with your reckless driving!

[redsmurfhat]

Yeah, they'll never allow me in an organized race with my 1/8 scale buggies (I also have an RC10GT for that), but when we're just out bashin'... WATCH OUT! (Though I have been literally run-over by my buddies HEAVILY modified, nitro conversion Clod Buster :( )

[ofna_Kdog]

Hey guys... i'm tweaking the supsension.

I've got the top shocks all on the inner spots and the lower ones on the outer slots. I wonder if this will help with my handling since the hobby world track is kinda bumpy. I also put in an RB 86 pipe and my picco 6 port engine sounds like it's gonna tear it up! I ran a little on the street ...(sorry tires) b/c i couldn't resist waiting. Hitting the track on sunday, anyone gonna b there?

[gixxer]

Breaking in my mp6 and wow. I bought a kyosho special pipe and it is so quiet compared to my cvec pipe! Not that annoying high pitch. I'm breaking in my os v01b and how many tanks of slow rich runs i need to use up b4 i can adjust for accel and speed?

i'm thinking about getting that same pipe for my usa1.

[ofna_Kdog]

Gixxer,

Is your kit new or is it just your enigne? I"m just curious =)

About your breaking in...you should run about 5-6 tanks in before you start to lean it out for speed. A lot of people make the mistake of leaning it out too soon, but if it's a chrome sleeve it should be able to take it.

[gixxer]

Bought it last year around thanksgiving. Didn't get an engine till january. I'm very satisfied how the car is built and runs.

[gixxer]

Here's a pic.

[ofna_Kdog]

What tires are you running?

[gixxer]

The duratrax 1/8 Street Traction Tire. I think the proline one's are better but the duratrax is like $9 a pair. Tower also have rims cheap from the daily sale. The white rims cost $7 something when i last purchased it. Check it out if interested in street track. I also think the engine break in better on the street since it is less likely to over rev a new engine.

[ofna_Kdog]

I have the same tires. Yeah about break in, i'd never break in on a dirt track.

[ofna_Kdog]

Anyone know if a Proline crowd pleaser for the 7.5 will fit a 6??

I need a body!!!

<img src="http://varsityboystuff.netfirms.com/mp/March2002/topangle.jpg"></img>

[gixxer]

The kyosho mp6 body is onsale at tower for 35.99 instead of 38.99. Stock number is bd1159. Not the best of deal but in case you need one now. The offer expires in May or something. Mean while i'd suggest looking at inventory reduction for the mp6 cover . It might show up again.

I don't think the cover would work although if anybody have success in fitting it let us all know.

[Zootalaws]

.1 in = 2.54mm

[MadUsa1]

how much are you guys paying for your MP6's??

[gixxer]

I paid 289 at tower. As of right now tower sells it for 360 in the daily sale and prices are still dropping. If your interested you can wait till the prices drop lower and use the -15 disc.

[Kosika]

Hi!
I'm wondering what setups you have on you'r cars, chamber, to-in and such things.
(I have an mp-6.)

[ronin8451]

Yes, the Crowd Pleazer for the 7.5 fits with a little trimming. I have one on a MP-6 and MP-5 that I just sold.

[Kosika]

During the winter I got some x-tra stuff for my mp-6.
What I love most is boubble diskbrake on fron't and rear.
I also got and 6volt battery pak and now it's lokks it's weels even on a parkinglot! And i only got an standard hitec servo!
And by the way, I love my OS .21 RG engine. It has run more than 15 liters of 16% fuel and it's in top shape! I use an kyosho pipe I haven't compared any pipes but I think it's ok.

[blitzpb]

I just bought a used MP6! My first question is this, which servos should I run on it? I have a magnum controller if that matters. Id rather not spend the extra money needed for digital servos. IF I can get speed and torque in analog Ill go that way.

Thanks

Nick, the new guy

[Kosika]

I use an standard servo for trottle and brake. For stering I use an hitec HS-645MG, it moves the tyres from side to side on no time.
During the winter I altso switched to 6 volt battery, oh god! now the servos are super fast!!!! I don't need any better servos than that.;)

[ofna_Kdog]

Nick,
You can just stick with analog and put in a hi-torque servo in the steering.

[blitzpb]

Well, I just got the MP6 today and will get my stuff this weekend for it. One question though...How tight should the steering be with no servo attached? On my MT the steering is so loose that it just flaps back and forth. The steering on my MP6 seems pretty tight, I can move it ok, it just feels like its already got the servo attached.

Thanks

Nick

[Kosika]

well, have you'r stering as lose as possible, but not to lose so the screws fallout. I don't know the word in english but put that blue stuff on the screws before you use them.
Thats my sugestion. cus wen it's smoth the stering is faster and the servo dont use asmuch power=longer tim untill the batery is empty.

[Pr0k]

I also recently bought a used I believe it is an MP5 although the guy told me MP6. The steering on mine with no servo attached is extremley loose. You probably need to loosen that up some. If anyone can tell by looking let me know if i am correct in assuming this is an MP5

[Kosika]

well, I actually have an exploded view of an mp-5 at home, so there is one thing that I'm curios about.
It may be so that the recent owner changed the thing but.....

the upper suspension arm in front and rear are being held by a screw and a nut at the hub carrier, this is on the mp-6, but on mp-5 they are held by a pin and a stopper ( a stopper like in the gas and brake).
Didn't you get any manual?

and bytheway, the radio plate is gone. have you removed it? or did you not get it with the car?

Here is an picture of my ride!
It has an radio box from mp-7,5 (it's fits good)
doubble diskbrakes, front stabilizer, and more!

[Pr0k]

No I do have the radio Plate it arived as you see with no electronics but i have the actual plate. No I didn't get a manual I will check the hub today and let you know.

[blitzpb]

Im having problems running my MP6. I guess it really doenst have to do with the MP6 perse but the OS RZ99 I have on it. I bought this car a couple of weeks ago on Ebay and Im sure there is nothing wrong with it, but....

I just got the starter box and I tried to start it today to now avail! How long should I have to leave it on the starter box? Is there something Im doing wrong? I actually got it sorta started briefly but any amount of throttle and it dies. Its very furstrationg. I even set all the trim needles back to stock settings and started from there.

Any ideas?

[go1d1e]

i can suggest the obvious if it helps..


check your glowplug is good, and glowplug lighter
you have the idle set screw open enough?
your getting fuel? see it run along the tube?



what stock settings did you use?

[Kosika]

Dose it blur just before it's stops? Or dose it stops with no special sound?
Try to give it a bitt more at the mid screw. On my os. 21RG I had to turn the swrew 360* counterclock from the standard setting before I even could start it.
If the motor sounds to die becuse of it's gets to much try an leaner setting, if it dies and sounds like it going to lean, give it more.
Also, you can try to leave the glow driver a wile on the glow plug and gas upp to full trottle a couple of times. That usual work for me.

If you could deskribe the behavior and sound of the engine I maybe know whats wrong.

[gixxer]

I think in the rc nitro site they have an article on adjusting engines.

Anyways, can anybody put a pic. of a mp6 with mp7.5 body?

Is the 7.5 radio box more convient to work with?

[blitzpb]

Ok, let me see if I can explain this. First off it had a hell of a time first getting started. Im sure the car had not been started for a while, so it took a while for the fuel to reach to the carb. I do know that it eventually did though, as I could see this. Once I got it started and off the box it would run, but at what seemed like a high idling RPM (im used to 1/10 nitro, so maybe its just me). The wheel were spining too.If I were to put the car on the ground or stop the wheels with my hand the engine would stop. So then I wanted to see if I could even give it some gas while it was in the air. I got it started and slowly pulled the throttle back, almost instantly it bogged and dyed.

There is no real strange sound when it dies, it just dies. I check the glow plug and it was glowing orange, should it be glowing brighter?

Thanks guys, Im new to the 1/8 realm so Im learning little by little.

Nick

[ofna_Kdog]

blitz-

if your engine stalls when the wheels are stopped, it sounds like the clutch is engaging the entire time on your engine. What you might want to try to do to test the engine is to take off the clutch and check the springs and the shoes. the springs might need to be replaced.

If you find that you are having way too much engine trouble, I'd take the engine apart and check the piston/sleeve. If you can get your hands on a compression measuring tool for nitro cars that would be easier, but those things cost an arm and a leg.

[Kosika]

well...
wen you start you'r engine the weels always spin for me. But I'm not the one that want 110% of my engine so I'm satisfied if it's runs good for backyard racing.
You may first just get it upp and running, then you can fine tuneit and so on.

Ok to the problem.
Remove the airfilter so you can se into the carburetor, it shall be closed, only a opening on 2-3 millimeters shall be there. If its too big witch I think, screw the idling srew counter-clockvise untill it's ok.
Then put the filter back.
Get you'r car to the starter box. And runit on the box wile holding you'r finger or somthing at the opening to the muffler. You shalol now see fual floading to the carburettor.
Put the glow starter att the plug and wait about 5 sek. Then push the car down att the starter well and see if it's start. If it dosent, give it a bitt trottle in bursts.
Then wen (if) it starts remove the glow starter and let the engine run a wile ~30-60 sek. Then thry to give it trottle VERRY slowly, althe way upp to full gas.
If it dies, screw the mid end screw 1/4 round counter-clockwise.
Try again. If it still don't start, coutinue screwing. if you have screwed like 2 rounds, screw it back and give it less (screw it clockwise).
If it still dont work, try mixing with the hig end screw (the one in the "tower") the same way.

Hope this works, if not. I shall figure it out.
But try to experiment some with the carb settings first. And you maybe should oopen the engine aswell like onfa_Kdog said.

The Mp-7.5 radio box is perfekt for the mp-6 too. It fits well inside the body and it's good to have the battery and reciver seperatet, but you have to use "hump" packs to get it in.
You don't need to do any modifications. But I have two tips: use the radioplate pins from the new radiobox bag and buy some more screws that holds the two pieces of the radiobox (upper and lower) together.
An other good tip is to use the "shield" that protects the brakes from fuel. You only need to cut away a littel piec of the "shield" so the servo can move free.

[blitzpb]

Thanks, Ill try that out tonight. Im going to swing by the HS and pick up a glow plug too, just so that Im sure thats not the problem. R5 is correct size right?

Thanks,

Nick

[Pr0k]

Well all indications are that is an Mp6, at this point anyway. cleaned it up some and found it has some nice hop ups. Cvd's all universals it looks like is has a torsen too. Radio gear got here today. I can't wait to run this thang!

[Gmanlusk2004]

how are the mp 5's? this would be my first nitro car to buy and i'm really just a backyard basher but i do like to be competitive. is the mp5 able to keep up w/ the other 1/8 scale racing buggies like the mbx r2 or the mp6 etc.

[Pr0k]

I am trying trying to figure out exactly which chasis I have. It is countersunk on the bottom grey in color seems to be hardened or coated. I am thinking it is KYOC2890 the special conversion chassis for the MP5. the only thing is that looks milled on the top any one know for sure?

[Pr0k]

top side milled

[ronin8451]

Your car is an MP-6. The MP-5 has rear upper arms instead of camber links and the radio plate is silver instead of Blue like yours. You probably have the "team" chassis or one of the many aftermarket lightened chassis. The rear shock tower is totally different on the MP-5 since it has upper arms that mount on the diff. case at the rear instead of upper camber links that mount to the shock tower. Hope this helps!:D

[Pr0k]

Yeah. that helps alot thanx. BTW if anyone has a mp6 manual that is scanned...I would appreciate it!

[Kosika]

You can buy a manual at stores.
I know that towerhobbies have one.
www.towerhobbies.com

[Pr0k]

I have an ofna Pipe on my car it has a cast finish on it that begs to be polished. Anyone have this pipe on their buggy that has sanded and polished it? Was wondering if it is worth the effort.

[ofna_Kdog]

not worth the effort! the cast finish will actually make the pipe more durable.

[sprintr]

I just got a MP-6 ..I was wondering where the best place to buy parts from..I need a front bulk head,,it is broke where the front shock tower attaches..unless someone has one to spare.. email me at mlehman59@dejazzd.com

Thanks
Mike

[Pr0k]

Hey Mike. I usually use Tower hobbies online, since they are the main Us distributor they usually have most parts. The Kyosho part# is IF-2 . Towers special stock number is LXT721. 10 bucks not too terrible. Good luck!!

[blitzpb]

What direction should my tires be spinning when I am starting it on the starter box? Shouldnt the tires be spinning forward? My tires are spinning backwards but I can get the car started (I havent yet been able to put the power to the ground.) Can I just reverse the polarity going into the starter motor? I am using an OFNA Box.

[ofna_Kdog]

yeah, you should reverse the polarity.

[ofna_Kdog]

Hey guys,
I installed a 3 shoe clutch in my buggy (all kyosho parts) and the bottom end power is insane! I would reccommend that all of you upgrade to a 3 shoe clutch if you have the money (70 bux) if you have the stock 2 shoe.

[moep]

Now, is the difference really that huge?

[ofna_Kdog]

I think so. 3 shoes is better b/c there is more surface area between the shoes and the clutch bell while the shoes are also lighter than 2 shoes.

[Pr0k]

Ok guys, If anyone is interested I have obtained a nice clean scanned copy of the mp 6 manual. If anyone is interested I can email to them. the file is a little over 7mb. Raining here for days so I still haven't got a chance to run this thing!

[Poindexter]

Originally posted by Pr0k
Well all indications are that is an Mp6, at this point anyway. cleaned it up some and found it has some nice hop ups. Cvd's all universals it looks like is has a torsen too. Radio gear got here today. I can't wait to run this thang!

Uh, that's an MP-6 International. Great buggy. You can tell because it has the 4-disk brakes, the aforementioned Universals, and the hardened, thicker chassis (3mm on the International--check it out). :D

[Pr0k]

Cool, thanks dude.

[gixxer]

It might be converted to the international version. The international version has platnium shocks front rear brace, titanium or silver turnbuckles and, steel center main gear with both stablizer. I can't really see from the pic put it look like it was a modified mp6 or interntial with turbo inferno shocks?

[Pr0k]

Yeah I think this has been upgraded to its present configuration. I finally got it all together today. Between the rain, work, and the others toys I just checked it out today. I had the damb servo in backwards, no wonder I had no brakes! I ordered an antenna tube priority so maybe I can play with it some on the 4th. It is always these little things that you dont have on hand when you are a newbie. I ordered a few so that will not happen again. If it dont rain tomorrow maybe I can atleast get some running time in on my Landmax.

[Poindexter]

Originally posted by gixxer
It might be converted to the international version. The international version has platnium shocks front rear brace, titanium or silver turnbuckles and, steel center main gear with both stablizer. I can't really see from the pic put it look like it was a modified mp6 or interntial with turbo inferno shocks?

My International had the blue aluminum front brace, though it did have front and rear stabilizers, and silver turnbuckles (not titanium). The Universals were black, though. Just my .02.

[blitzpb]

Im contemplating selling my Kyosho MP6 setup which includes OS RZ21, Futaba Magnum controller, futaba standard throttle servo, brand new hitec hi torque steering servo, elite 6v reciever pack, elite reciever charger, new OS starter box, new, trinity glow plug igniter, elite glow plug charger. Thats about it, basically everything needed to run it. I need extra money, but Im sad that Im starting to think about selling it.

Note: I am not trying to sell this here, I just wanted to see what it would be worth when the time comes. If you have any questions or do not want to post here, email me
nickcruz@wahbam.com

[STRACING]

Is the MP-6 still a good competitive buggy at the track? How about parts are they still readily available? I am thinking about getting one but wasn't sure If I should wait for the next generation of buggies to come out and pick up a used 7.5 or something similar?

[Pr0k]

The MP6 can still be competitive and parts are readily available. The 7.5 is of course a later refinement so it does offer a lower center of gravity and some other handling improvements. I would think that it depends on exactly what you want and your skill level as a driver. For me my mp6 is fine, if shaving 1 second or two off your lap time is important then go for the later model.

[STRACING]

Basically I want to race locally and maybe a nearby national (after lots of practice). This would be my first 1/8th scale buggy and my skill level would be a beginner. I just wasn't sure if the MP-6 would still be competitive with all the new buggies on the market.

[Pr0k]

At a beginners skill level you should be able to pick up an MP6 relatively cheap, and as your skills grow you can make the decision to upgrade or go with another buggy.

[go1d1e]

beginners 1/8th is fun..

I think (in my personal opinion) it kinda goes like..

75% is driving ability (Mostly what I lack)
15% is setup
and the remining 10% is having the right car


Example, I have an Inferno DX.. its about 10 yrs old, has a cheap OS RG engine in, and at my track I can hang with the majority of the drivers..


just hve fun, whatever you decide on

[nitronate]

i to am a begginer to 1/8th buggys. does anyone here have or know someone that has a crappy one or one that the would sell for pretty cheap. Or somewhere under 400$$

[BlutoSigPi]

Here's a question for you guys. My MP-6 with an RB runs great. However, except when it gets hot. If it's hot and stalls I can't get it started again. Have to wait a few mins for it to cool down. Any suggestions?

[STRACING]

Nitronate,
Look on ebay I seen a complete setup go for around $325.

[Pr0k]

Actually if you choose to look on ebay, there are some deals but ask lots of questions, and be prepared to do a little work. but for 3-350 there have been some nice set ups.

[STRACING]

Is there a better place to look? What kind of questions should one ask?

[Pr0k]

There are trader boards, or you can ask at the LHS who might be selling one. As any sight unseen transaction you need to ask if the compression is good is there any known defects. make sure you know what you are getting into, I have dealt on ebay and the trader boards and have made out atleast ok. Again if you are using ebay i would look for someone that takes credit cards or has a track record of accurate descriptions. And dont pay for any superduper engine, if it is part of the deal fine but assume you will need to rebuild it anyway. (You may not need to but assume you do unless you have assurances you won't have to).

[BlutoSigPi]

Originally posted by BlutoSigPi
Here's a question for you guys. My MP-6 with an RB runs great. However, except when it gets hot. If it's hot and stalls I can't get it started again. Have to wait a few mins for it to cool down. Any suggestions?

Am I running it to lean? ... Anyone? Buller? Buller? Buller? :D

[STRACING]

When you say hot what temp are you running?

[BlutoSigPi]

Originally posted by STRACING
When you say hot what temp are you running?

Not sure since my MIP temp gauge died. :(

[Kanai2racer]

how would you compare th MP-6 international to the Mp 7.5 ?:)

[ofna_Kdog]

Blutosigpi,

I've found that when my engine is running too lean that it gets so hot that the gas won't prime into the carborator because it just boils when it gets there. Try richening your mixture after letting your engine cool down.

[Hotliner]

Where do you guys get your aftermarket parts for the MP-6 on line? I found a couple but didn't know if there was one particular place that has the most.

Thanks!

Scott

[andreej]

I've asked this question a few times in the past with no success but here goes again. I am pretty new to the sport and have a 4 month old MP6-sport. Are my differentials sealed? to me it seems like they would not hold oil as on the one end it is just a metal shaft going through the casing - no oil seal or anything. The one side has a rubber gasket but the other end has no seal of any type. Then, if it is indeed sealed, how much oil do I put in and what weights??

Thanks!

[Hotliner]

Yes the diffs are sealed, there's an O-ring inside on the shaft but you can't see it. Most common in the MP-6 is somewhere around 10K in the center, 7K in the front, and 3K in the rear. Use that ratio anyway.

[andreej]

thanks hotliner, now can some one tell me how much oil to add?? Do I fill er' up or leave some room for expansion or half full or??? Thanks again!!

[Hotliner]

Fill them to approx. 80%, or some people say just untill you cover the gears completely (which is pretty close to 80% anyway)
Good luck, you will notice a nice improvement on the corners I think.:cool:

[ronin8451]

On a loose track, use 1000 rear / 7000 center/ 5000 front and fill until you just cover the cross pins inside. :D

[Marky]

Hi guy's....at last i have found a MP6 forum :D
Not many guys over here with MP6's, most of them run Hypers, Storms and 7.5's and a few MBX's
Had my 6 for nearly 1 1/2 years now and love it to bits ;)
Started of as a sport version but over time is almost upto international spec now, as well as a few 7.5 items fitted (can you spot them??) lol
Running 7000wt 10000wt 3000wt at the moment and 40wt shock oil. Have any of you guys had problems with the fuel tank?? in paticular the brass tube that draws the fuel up comming loose and creating an air leak.....went through 3 of the damm things before switching to the 7.5 tank.

Marky (keeping the 6 alive in the UK :D )

[Marky]

a more recent pic.......

[Marky]

Anybody out there??? You guys haven't all givin up have ya??
Went to my first ever race meeting last weekend and won!!! :D
was up against Hypers, Storms, 7.5's, engines were C4's a C5 one of those Siro engines and various other RB's and OS's
Just kept cool and smooth while the other guys tried to hard.....i think the track was just a bit to tight and twisted for the C4's and C5 to stretch thier legs ;) Still a win is a win :D
So it just proves that the 6 still has it in her lol

Marky :cool:

[go1d1e]

What track you racing at in the UK?

I hear Slough has a real good track, and i remeber one somewhere near stratford, but it has been a while

And congrats on the win.. :)

[Marky]

Originally posted by go1d1e
What track you racing at in the UK?

I hear Slough has a real good track, and i remeber one somewhere near stratford, but it has been a while

And congrats on the win.. :)

Cheers m8.....
Yeh the track at slough is very good, but most of the top racers dont like it cos its very rough, they are use to grass tracks which are very flat and boring......havent raced at slough YET!!! but gunna soon i hope.
The track i had my first win at is a little track that has just opened
www.maxxbashing.co.uk
gunna be some video footage on there soon....so watch this space for some MP6 action :D
Most of the UK tracks are grass....:( but the track i went to was loose dirt and very bumpy
Did you use to live in the UK or have you been here on a holliday???

Marky :D

[go1d1e]

Aahhh, a southerner huh..

I`m originally from the midlands area.. bought my car (inferno DX) years back from a store in stratford/welford, something like that..

now i race it here www.noveltyrc.com kinda different on dirt, as I always raced grass in the UK.. but I like it ALOT.. real smooth easy flowing track

[Marky]

Man that track looks sooooo sweeeeeeet :D
Very technical but great fun ;) wish we had summit like that in the UK....it seems that all the tracks over here are built for pure racing...ie...FLAT.....me luv big jumps!!!! :D when you balance the bug in mid air...it's such a nice feeling :D
Are you still running ya DX or have you got a 6 now ???

Marky...bored with the tracks in the UK have to make do with BMX tracks :(

[go1d1e]

yea, i still run the old DX.. runs pretty strong..

I think the driver needs to improve more than the car does :)


The novelty track rules.. it is far the best place i`ve ever driven my car.. still, i need practice.

BMX track? pah, thats nothin :p how about a skate park? :p


hmm, can`t find pics of the Skate park.. needless to say it hurt a car or two :p concrete + 15/20 ft high air

heres a pic of the DX at novelty though

http://pic1.picturetrail.com/VOL129/613721/962446/12115050.ptp

few MP6 parts on there

[Marky]

Go1d1e the pic anit showing ??
Think i might have to book a holiday near that track ;) got a spare room for me.....lol
Its not even a proper BMX track....more of a field with humps in it :( and as for skate parks, nothing what so ever....you guys out there have all the fun.
Just fitted a new servo to my 6.... nothing really flash, its a Hitec HS645MG allready got a HS625MG up front but wanted some decent brakes......and boy have i got them now!!!!! Cant wait for the next race meeting :D

Marky

[go1d1e]

Heh, we are spoiled for tracks in missouri.. i know of at least 3 real decent ones.. Still, its a lil drive across the state each way.

novelty is the only one i`ve raced at though..
dirtburners.org have a good track
and there is another in Kansas city, real race? real rc? i`m not sure

Don`t know why the pic isn`t showing.. i`ll look at that later

As for the brakes, i have a 605BB on the brakes, works good, and the 645MG upfront.. i`m happy with it.. what brake setup you running? I have twin disks on the back, and a big chunky one on the front. If you can get a hold of a dremel, rough up the surfaces on the metal plates/pads, and the disks. I even put slots in the disks, and you wouldn`t believe how well they work

Only problem is i always seem to lock up the front wheels.. need to re-balance them again

[podman]

I bash with mark most sundays, I have to say that the picture he has chosen is of one of the smallest jumps!, you cant really complain about the size of the jumps in that "field with humps on it" we still manage to brake enough stuff on it :( !

podman

[Marky]

Originally posted by go1d1e
Heh, we are spoiled for tracks in missouri.. i know of at least 3 real decent ones.. Still, its a lil drive across the state each way.

novelty is the only one i`ve raced at though..
dirtburners.org have a good track
and there is another in Kansas city, real race? real rc? i`m not sure

Don`t know why the pic isn`t showing.. i`ll look at that later

As for the brakes, i have a 605BB on the brakes, works good, and the 645MG upfront.. i`m happy with it.. what brake setup you running? I have twin disks on the back, and a big chunky one on the front. If you can get a hold of a dremel, rough up the surfaces on the metal plates/pads, and the disks. I even put slots in the disks, and you wouldn`t believe how well they work

Only problem is i always seem to lock up the front wheels.. need to re-balance them again


Running a 645 on the brake setup.....boy oh boy....talk about stopping power....from WOT full speed to stand still in just under 2 foot with ease !!!
Well chuffed m8ty....not sure how its gunna be under "race conditions" may need to slacken then off a bit....loose dirt means i'm just gunna lock up and understeer into the corners...will have to wait and see. I have a dremmel so i will give that little trick ago...... Is it best to have more front or rear brakes ???
I like to slid the bug into a corner so i'm guessing that i need more rear than front....grass tracks are boring....no skill involed more to do with the set-up...BRING ON THE BIG AIR!!!! :D

Marky......hows that room looking for me then ??? ;)

[go1d1e]

Room?! pah.. i`m buying a house before xmas.. i`ll have a basement you can RENT :p


As for brake balance, I dunno, i`d guess even.. i don`t like my front wheels looking up on the track, even on the tarmac on the road outside my place..

that, and i think I need to get some new tires.. they are just so dammed expensive though

[Marky]

You are joking!!!! about tyres being expensive......J H Christ..... if they only cost £15 a pair glued on some rims with inserts over here then they must be about $10 bucks a pair over there :p
What engine ya running in the DX then....got any other buggy ??? or does the DX still cut the mustard ;)
markyh32@hotmail.com if you fancy a chat sometime

Marky

[go1d1e]

15 quid a pair = 30 quid a set

30 quid a set = 45 Bucks..


I know I can`t afford them right now :(
I used to get alot of good used tires from three 5 models.. Need some good crimefighters for the track i race.. maybe next season.


I`m running an OS RG in mine.. does good for me.. I`m not a regualr winner or anything, infact i finished 2nd in the last race, out of 3, and only 1 car finished :p

[gixxer]

Anybody else tried fitting the mp6 with 2 speed? What would i need?

Anyways what are you guy running with your shocks. I'm running like 55 and 60wt old and it still feels light with those white spring it came with. Any suggestions on setups for shocks?

[Marky]

Originally posted by gixxer
Anybody else tried fitting the mp6 with 2 speed? What would i need?

Anyways what are you guy running with your shocks. I'm running like 55 and 60wt old and it still feels light with those white spring it came with. Any suggestions on setups for shocks?

Blimey !!!! 60wt is way to heavy, most of the guys over here run from 25wt to 45wt and blue springs. I run 40wt all round 1.6mmx2 holed pistons and blue springs, tried the white springs but i think they are to hard for my style of driving. Are you running the blue or silver shock bodys?? BSW or IFW part no.
As for the 2 speed question.....hmmmm.....not sure if it can be done on the MP6, you can get the 2 speed for a Landmax so you maybe able to make it fit with a little bit of modification, but 2 speeds are not recomended for off road

Marky

[gixxer]

It came with the platnuim shocks. Maybe the piston it came with aren't correct? The rear is fine but, the front i'm running 60wt and it still bounces too much. Forgot to mention i was running this on the street, sorry i forgot to mention that.

thanks for your input.

[Bottomless Pit]

Hey guys, I have recently become the proud owner of a used but still in great shape MP 6 International. I am running the RB WS7 engine on it. Man this thing is awsome to run. Handles alot better than my old Inferno did. I upgraded to the MP 7.5 radio box also. My biggest problem is I didn't get the manual with it, not like I really need it to work on it but would like to have one. If the person that has scanned it is still willing I would like to recieve a copy of it please. I can be reached at Bobby_327@msn.com.

[Pr0k]

I sent it to yah dude. Welcome to the forum, post some pics if you get a chance. If you dont get it let me know.

***Seems to be kickin it back i retried if you dont get it let me know we can do it pieces if needed

[Bottomless Pit]

I will post some pics as soon as I get a day off to take them during the day. Til then I can give a link to the local track where there is 2 pics of my buggy, one is in the air showing nothing but the chassis and the other is with the body still on it.



http://www.apexraceway.com/PicsPage.html



The 4th pic down on the left, the blue with flames is mine.
The one above the bottom right is the buggy in action.

I will take some pictures myself soon of the buggy without the body soon and post them for all to see.

[Marky]

Hi guys, not alot going on in here so i thought i post a pic of my buggy from the weekends bash.....racing was cancelled because the track was so muddy and had lots of standing water.....some puddles were deep enough to almost cover the wheels :eek:
If conditions are like this next time i'm not gunna bother running.....you can see why from the picture....this was after just 1 tank of fuel :mad: and thats when i called it a day!!!!!
I have so far spent 2 days cleaning it, and the worse part is that the mud has a very sandy texture to it, so every thing is very gritty and thats why its taken so long to clean.

Marky

[Marky]

And a before pic

[ugman]

WOW what a mess!

Nice cleaning job though :p

[Marky]

Originally posted by ugman
WOW what a mess!

Nice cleaning job though :p

I haven't cleaned it yet....thats a before the meeting picture.
I will post one when i have finished cleaning it

Marky

[Bottomless Pit]

Here is a pic of my buggy. My camera isn't the greatest so the quality isn't that hot.

[Marky]

Nice ride B

I have a question guys.....do any of you guys shim your diffs ??
My MP 6 started life as a "sport version" and had no shims what so ever :confused:
I recentley bought a pack of shims as i'm now on my third rear diff and second front diff....keep stripping them :( ....but when i tried to shim them for a closer mesh, no matter how i tried i could not get a smooth mesh....so in the end i just left them out.....thats the only way it would work. Is it a case of adding the shims as the crown gear wears down ??
I have thought about replacing the "cast alli" jobbies with HD units....but the price difference is 6x the cost of the standard ones :eek: Any ideas ???

Marky

WS7 power all the way baby :D

[Bottomless Pit]

I have never tried shimming my diffs, my buggy is an International if that even makes a difference. I was curious if anyone has tried fitting a set of aftermarket MP 7.5 torque rods on there buggy. I am having some trouble finding places that sell the aftermarket alum parts for the MP 6. I have a Trinity Wasp MP 7.5 body coming and will post a pic with the new body as soon as i get it painted.




WS7 powered and loving it

[Marky]

The Fioroni ally braces for the 7.5 will fit on the 6...i know this cos i have them fitted to mine :D you will however have to drill 2 holes in the chassis for them to fit, cos they are a bit longer, you will also have to pack out the front one because of the lower mounting of the 7.5 diffs, i used a old shock piston....fits a treat ;)
I have also now fitted 2 nylock nuts on each brace as the single ones keep comming loose :confused:

Marky

[gixxer]

Does the 7.5 body even fit the 6 :confused:

I like the 7.5 body better.

[Bottomless Pit]

My MP 6 is currently sporting a Proline Crowd Pleaser MP 7.5 body on it right now. I bought it like that so I don't know exactly how much had to be cut to make it work on it. My new Trinity Wasp body will be in tomorrow and I did notice that I will have to move the rear body mount forward a little bit in order to make it mount right. I have a MP 7.5 body mount that came with the radio box I mounted that I plan to make work for this. The MP 7.5 body mount has a screw hole facing downwards instead of horizonally, so a small rectangular piece of plastic stock to mount to the bottom of it then mount it to the stock place on the rear shock tower moving it more forward solves the problem neatly. If I have to do anything other than this to make my new body fit I will post it on here for ya'll

[Bottomless Pit]

MP 6 with Trinity Wasp body

[Bottomless Pit]

Another from different angle

[Bottomless Pit]

One last pic

[Marky]

Bottomless pit, can you show me a close up of how you have made the mod to the rear mount....the bit you put the pin through, cos i would like to use a 7.5 shell.
This is a pic of my latest paint job, hope ya like it. First attempt at flames too :D

Marky

[gixxer]

Wow, that's awesome! Can't believe you got it to fit. Which body actually fit better? Would a kyosho 7.5 body fit or only the wasp and crowd pleaser?

[Bottomless Pit]

Well I haven't acually tried fitting the stock 7.5 body to the MP 6 but my car came with a Crowd Pleaser body that seem to fit fairly well with no mods and the Wasp body fit with just a few minor mods. I am posting 3 pics of the body mount I made for the rear. I did have to drill a hole in the rear shock tower to lower the mount the way I made it. I used an old front a arm from an Inferno that was messed up but I am sure any a arm would work. I cut the end the the hub carrier connected to with the pin off and used the pin hole to put the screw into the 7.5 body mount and drilled a hole in the end I cut to mount it to the shock tower.

[Bottomless Pit]

Sorry these pics arent the greatest I have a very cheap camera. Also when mounting the body mount to the shock tower for the wasp body I did find that it was better to turn the body mount 90 degrees so the body pin goes thru side to side instead of front to back due to the spoiler shape in the rear of the body.

[Bottomless Pit]

This is a pic of where I drilled the hole in the shock tower to mount the body mount. So far the only mods I have made to my MP 6 International is the MP 7.5 radio box and radio tray posts, yes the MP 7.5 alum radio tray posts are slightly shorter than the MP 6, and a stock MP 7.5 rear torque rod. I am planing to get some aftermarket MP 7.5 torque rods (front and rear) for it soon. I aslo trimmed the steering stops of the c hub carriers some for a little more turning radius. Some time this week I am planning to strip the paint of the springs and paint them to match the body colors.

[Marky]

Cheers B P
I have also made that little mod to the front uprights for a little more steering, didn't no that the 7.5 alum radio posts were shorter than the 6.....i just trimmed the radio box to fit, also fitted a 7.5 tank cos i was havin so many probs with the fuel nipple on the 6 tanks, i went through 3 of them before switching to the 7.5 one, the dam things would not stay in place, it was loose, causing an airleak and throwing my carb settings all over the place, since i fitted the 7.5 its been fine.
The 7.5 braces (alum) are well worth the money and reduce virtually all chassis flex.

Marky

[Bottomless Pit]

I have been thinking of trying to fit a Kanai 2 front hub carriers on my MP 6 for the 22 degree rake. I guess I am gonna have to get my buddies MP 7.5 over and study the front ends to see what it would take. I do like my buggy but I love making modifications too. I have been thinking of putting the MP 7.5 tank on mine too but it is 120 cc instead of 125cc. My run time is already short as it is.

[Nitromatt]

were can I find a kyosho inferno mp6 they are discontinued at tower

[Bottomless Pit]

Try Ebay I saw one on there just the other day. I got my MP 6 International off of it.

[f155mph]

Diff Fluid

Anyone know what wt. I should use and how much do I put in?

Thanks

[Bottomless Pit]

I can't say what is the best to use as far as diff fluid goes, that is a matter of what type of track you are running on and your driving style. I have read many places that 5k in the front, 7k in the middle, and 1k in the rear is the starting point. I am currently running 10k front and middle with just regular axle grease in the rear. As far as how much, you should fill the diff 80% with fluid.

[mtracer]

My son is graduating from his Nitro Truck to a 1/8 th buggy...

He wants this Kyosho Inferno MP-7.5 Sport/GS .21R
Is this a good buggy???

How are the parts on this one........do they hold up well??

Im just not sure which buggy to get him....

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?
&I=LXANJ1&P=7

[Bottomless Pit]

This forum is for the MP 6 there is a forum for the MP 7.5 but I can also give you some advise on the MP 7.5 sports. My friend ordered one thinking he was getting the regular version instead of the sport. They aren't bad for entry level but if racing is intended for the buggy you would be better off going with the regular MP 7.5. The ring and pinion gears on the front and rear diff of the sport are made of alum instead of steel and will strip once a real engine is added to the buggy. The spur gear on the sport is plastic which would hold up for about 6 good runnings even with the gs 21 that comes with it. To change just these parts to the regular version well cost about as much as a decent engine would. So my opinion is to go with the regular and get a good engine to start with. The MP 6 also makes a good buggy if you are interested in getting one used. I am not sure if there are any places to get one new but there are several used ones going on Ebay. But again I would stay away from the sport version.

[MILLER_MP6]

HOP UPS HOP UPS HOP UPS??????
where can i get them?? any ideas?? any places to stay away from??
your help would be great.. its hard to find mp-6 stuff its all 7.5!!

anyway that would be great

ps.. anyone tried fitting a different body eg proline tmaxx etc to a mp-6??
im in the process now and i can tell you its looking sweeeeeet!!!
i would love to hear from anyone else who has tackeled the cosmetics side of the mp6

[Bottomless Pit]

http://www.rcdiscounters.com/catalog/default.php?cPath=22_68&osCsid=a9f87959e93e97eaaee2590a1d3f9009


This is a place to get some aluminum pieces for the MP 6. As far as the cosmetics go all I have tried doing is inplanting a MP 7.5 radio box and posts, and the Trinity Wasp body for the MP 7.5. Which if you have read the last few posts you will see pics of my body on the car.

[MILLER_MP6]

thanks for your help mate.. ill be sure to check out that site

ps.. nice work on the body mods!

[jcnmt]

here is my new mp-6 waiting for engine!

[team_luigis]

kool

[andreej]

I have a MP6 Sports, everyone says to replace the stock plastic main spur gear (IF22) with the metal one (IFW03). Sounds like a great idea so I ordered one from tower. The metal gear I received is much different than the plastic one. The original plastic one mounts to a hub type thing which is also the cap for the differential and that hub piece has on the back side a spacer ring and then the ring where the bearing sits on(this bearing then sits inside the plastic diff. holders, right in front of the rear brakes). The metal gear appears to have the diff cover built in but then on the back side it just has the ring for the bearing. As a result the mounting holes for the differential tower plastic pieces are off by 1/4", both on the frame and the blue anodized piece that attaches to the top of the plastic towers.

I apologize for my vague descriptions, maybe someone understands what I am describing. I am not sure if I got the wrong piece from tower or there must be additional pieces needed to convert to the steel main gear!

thanks

[slant930]

andreej: IFW03 or as shown on kyosho package as IFW3 should look almost identical to IF22. If you put the two gears face to face and line up the 4 mounting holes you will see that the 8 perimeter holes line up, and that both gears are recessed on one side. The recessed side of either IFW3 or IF22 is the side that mounts to part# IF26 the main gear housing, what you called a hub type thing. Unless the wrong part was in the bag all you have to do is take off IF22 and put on IFW3 it should be as simple as that. No additional pieces needed. Hope this helps.:)

[andreej]

Thank you!! I indeed must have recieved the wrong part because what I had was in no way going to work without some major modifications! I'll give tower a call and try again!

Thanks again!

[Bottomless Pit]

My LHS was given a chance to "show off" at the monster truck show here in town this past weekend. A couple of us ran some buggies on the motor cycle freestyle ramp. In the picture I am posting you can see my MP 6 flying high and the green blur beside it is my buddies MP 7.5. The only damage that we recived was from running of the side of the ramp hitting the towing eyes on the ramp.

[podman]

quality, how did the crowd react?

podman

[Shady]

what bodies fit the mp6, i got to lookin for some and all i can find is the stock body on tower and its $38.99.......please tell me there is something out there that is cheaper

[NiTrO_Ob4_RaCeR]

hey i just traded my 2.5 tmaxx for a mp-6 with ofna picco comp 21 motor the blue head that is brand new. do u thin it was a good deal? and what is the difference bettwen the m6 and m75

[f155mph]

Anyone know where i can get Fioroni parts for the MP6??? Thanks

[turbochrgdRICE]

Well I dont know if they are Fioroni but there's an auction on ebay that has like 5 or 6 items (either hardcore or fioroni). The items were front/rear shock tower, front/rear braces, and others (i think). Hope this helps

[uDi_MP75]

The 7.5 has longer chassis, smaller diffs, lowered engine mounts, improved radiobox design, and longer a-arms. They're the main ones, theres also a few small things, like new fueltank design, chassis dimples under diffs and clutchbell so things can site lower.... basically 'all new' so unfortunately you can't exactly upgrade. I have seen the fueltank and new radiobox put on the MP6 neatly if you care for those things.

Im sure you'll like the 6 anyway, i've known plenty of satisfied owners of that kit. Do you know what model it is? there's a sports, a regular, and an international edition....

anyways, have fun :)

[Marky]

Originally posted by uDi_MP75
I have seen the fueltank and new radiobox put on the MP6 neatly if you care for those things.


That would be on my buggy then Udi i take it :p
Yes its very easy to fit a tank and radio box from a 7.5 in a MP6, you will need to drill a few holes tho as they don't line up exact.
I also fitted the Fioroni front and rear ally braces (MP7.5) by drilling new holes

Marky

[uDi_MP75]

hehe yup, who else? :D

[MrCrash]

I want to try something new with my Inferno(an older MP-5,but basically the same thing),but I want to know if it would be safe to do it.I want to go 2wd.It would be for drifting(yes,I know that this car wasn't exactly meant for it,but I am getting bored with just driving back and forth on my lawn).Would it be safe to lock up the center diff with either 100,000 weight oil,or silly putty,then remove the front dogbone,and front suspension dogbones?

Thanks to all who help.

[Marky]

Originally posted by MrCrash
I want to try something new with my Inferno(an older MP-5,but basically the same thing),but I want to know if it would be safe to do it.I want to go 2wd.It would be for drifting(yes,I know that this car wasn't exactly meant for it,but I am getting bored with just driving back and forth on my lawn).Would it be safe to lock up the center diff with either 100,000 weight oil,or silly putty,then remove the front dogbone,and front suspension dogbones?

Thanks to all who help.

Can't see why not, altho the silly putty idea would work best.

Marky

[MrCrash]

ok.I will try it later today then.It won't be a full on test run,but it would just be to see if it would work,then I would actually get all the stuff to make it happen.

So,do you think it will wheelie?:p

[Marky]

You could the whole hog and convert it to summit like this

http://www205.pair.com/kyosho1/kweb/courses/18_TT/varennes2003/tech/IMG_3142.jpg

http://www205.pair.com/kyosho1/kweb/courses/18_TT/varennes2003/tech/IMG_3156.jpg

http://www205.pair.com/kyosho1/kweb/courses/18_TT/varennes2003/tech/IMG_3179.jpg

Marky

[MrCrash]

Woah!That's pretty cool!I would try something like that,but I don't want to do anything permanent.

[cleanmaxx brian]

Hi All,
Been awhile since I posted here! Have a easy question I think...

I sold a brand new Mad Force engine with pull start to a nice guy who has a MP-6. He says it will not fit? I did not think there was a difference between the way the motor mounts to a Landmax 2 and a Landmax 1??? The motor fits into my Landmax 2 with NO PROBLEMS and is very easy actually!


Can someone fill me in?

Thanks a bunch!!!
Brian

[fsbelem]

I have as the same motor as yours on my 3 cars: mp-6, landmax1 and mad force. And that is no difference between the way the motor mounts. Both are the same for gs21 and gs21r

[cleanmaxx brian]

Thanks for the quick reply:D

But I think this guy has the GOLD chassis that has the holes to mount the motor that are wide apart. And his chassis does not have the hole cut out for the pull start. Is it as simple as putting a thick washer under the motor mounts and just drilling the 4 holes?

[fsbelem]

His chassis should be that one http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXU609&P=7 . He has to make the 4 holes and the pull start hole like the custom one http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXPG10&P=7

[cleanmaxx brian]

Yup...thats is his chassis. He I do not believe can cut the hole for the pull start. SO, can you just rais the motor up just enough to clear the pull start with washers?

[fsbelem]

I don't know if you can make holes on the side of the motor, to fit it in an Engine Mount...

[cleanmaxx brian]

Naaaa I don't think you can. The only way I can think of is to just space the motor up. Drilling the 4 engine mount holes in the chassis is easy but a cut out for the pull start is a pain.

SO Next question...lets say I buy him the silver sport chassis...will everything switch over? Plus the silver chassis is much easier to mount ANY motor too:)

[fsbelem]

I have the silver one, and the gs21 fits well....other motors I don't know. but it's a good way to solve the problem

[Madaz]

cleanmaxx brian now i see why doesnt fit.

raising the motor may work but might cause other problems with gear meshing and linkages.

Before you buy him a new chassis get a 5-6mm drill bit and a small file and try making the hole for the pullstart, drill the holes in a rectangle shape, close together but not so they overlap. then try tapping the drilled piece out with a hammer, Aluminium is so soft it will come out easily if u drilled the holes close enough. If it doesnt knock out easily use the small file to join the holes. Then just use a larger file to file the sharp edges away and make a smooth rectangle hole. When you're filing put the chassis in a vice or clamp it to a bench or something.

It's as simple as that. Just be patient and careful not to hurt yourself. If you mess up his chassis just buy him a new one like you were going to anyway, but you wont mess it up, its a job ive done many times in all types of metals and its a piece of cake. hope this helps :)

[rc10bob]

Hey guys, I just bought a used MP6. and I had a few questions. Firstly I would like to ask are the MP 6 and the M7.5 parts interchangeable and would it be possible to turn a 6 into a 7.5. and if possible would the price would be worth it.. I paid next to nothing for this