View Full Version : Tamiya Mitsubishi Pajero Forum
SirClimbAlot86
11-24-2001, 08:04 AM
The place to talk about Tamiya's Mistubishi Pajero 4x4 truck. I have liked them since the new ones have came out. (this thread is for the newer ones) They look like they would be good bashers or project trucks. And since Tamiya offers them as "XB" or, RTR, they are easy to get going. Please, post pics and info about yours. :D
http://www.gpmd.com/images/tamc0996.JPG
did you get any hopups for it?
speedydave
03-14-2002, 06:36 PM
TTT
jdm3849
04-09-2002, 10:49 PM
Originally posted by M 5
did you get any hopups for it?
no offense but they make hop ups for them? which ones
lawlaw
04-18-2002, 10:51 AM
I'm thinking about getting one just to bash around. Are there any parts in this truck that's known for breaking easily? And what sorts of hopup should I get along with it? I know it needs a ESC but what else?
Mason Copeland
04-20-2002, 10:40 PM
Oil shocks, ball bearings, better motor? I want a Paj, solid rear axle, independant front suspension, mmmmmmmmmm. So realistic, great crawler, I want!
speedydave
05-11-2002, 02:50 AM
Just about everyone at the RCMT Rock Crawling forums has a Pajero. They've been recommending to get an ESC, bearings, lock the diffs, and oil shocks. You'd really have to head over there to get the full scoop, but I want one! Ah, decisions, decisions...I want both a TXT1 AND a Pajero...an a Bruiser, but I don't think that's gonna happen...
lawlaw
05-22-2002, 03:55 AM
ya I know about rcmt. Some of those guys are doing crazy stuff with their jeros! But it also shows how durable the pajero is. I just got mine last week and I'm still waiting for the LRP ESC and bearings. Still trying to decide which shock I should use.
OrcSlayer
06-11-2002, 06:38 PM
TTT :D I was all set and going to get a Nitro 'Pede but then I saw ProjectTwin's scalecrawler project and I'm like I gotta get me one o'those, but I can't afford to build my own. This Pajero seems like the next best thing.
Possumbot
06-26-2002, 09:45 PM
tamiya has a history of building scale cars that don't handle very well. I was thinking about that for a rock crawler, looks like fun, but i want something that doesn't flip 2 easily.
TA02Racer
07-04-2002, 10:32 PM
Where can i see some chassis shots!? I heard it has a solid rear axle?:confused:
Elite_dead
07-10-2002, 07:50 PM
the cross country (xc) chassis has a rear sollid axle and independant front suspension.
this was the only pic i could find of the chassis
NovakXXXNT
07-23-2002, 10:19 PM
My Jero
I will upload some underbody pics soon. I am adding competion shocks to the front and extending the rear shocks from 3 inches to 4 inches.
http://pic5.picturetrail.com/VOL83/535002/1008994/11727423.jpg
To see more upclose pictures of these go to www.picturetrail.com and in the search box type NovakTMaxx
BAC5.2
09-25-2002, 10:57 PM
what forum are you guy's talking about? i want this because of the solid rear axle, and the realism.
its got BFG MT's man, fuc&in A!!!! i can see some REAL potential in that car. just needs some good stuff for it.
i think i'll just use the electric's from my Micro RS4 (magnum JR radio, and an ESC)
NOVAK - what shocks are those man? your's looks pretty cool.
*sigh* why did tamiya get rid of the Bruiser? just the 2wd/4hi/4lo idea was the best idea ever. dual solid axles were a bonus too. you could lock the front end, and leave the rear end open, that way it would be locked if you put it in 4hi/4lo but would still drive well in 2x4.
is there any way of doing a solid axle swap on the pajero? and those traction bar's on the back end dont look like they would do their job to well, those would have to be ditched....
They stopped making it because it was fairly expensive and didn't really catch on. Now if they made all the metal parts plasic....
BAC5.2
09-27-2002, 09:42 PM
im gonna go to the hobby store tomorrow (saturday) and probally pick one of these up.
i just think it would be cool to have a realistic looking car.
my main question is wether or not i can put a different body on there or not. i think that would look tricky with a Nissan X-Terra body or a Ford Explorer (preferably the X-Terra because my dad has one, so it would be cool if his looked just like mine, lol)
i like the BFG tires though, but i bet once you wear them out, you cant get another set of the BFG's can you?
noflyinfool
09-29-2002, 08:21 PM
i just picked one of these up, and was wondering where i could find some info on how to modify it for more suspension travel.
Bigger shocks, perhaps some different lower braces, because they look like they restrict suspension a bit.
E-MaxxDestroyer
10-14-2002, 08:03 PM
Those tires practically dont wear. I have theym on my Chevy rally truck--I have had the same set for 3 years and i skid alot and do donuts......:D :cool:
Archerboi
10-16-2002, 12:27 PM
I was thinking of getting this truck. It looks real good. Does it rollover easy? And were can I find spare parts for it? Thanks. :)
Tony Montana
10-17-2002, 07:42 PM
It rolls over very easily....but that's one of the things that makes this truck so much fun to drive! I've had mine for close to a year now and I've put it through hell, seriously. It's crazy fun to drive!
I've got both diffs locked, and the great advantage to having done that is that it's self-righting! As long as it isn't flat on its roof, I won't have to walk over to it to flip it. With a little throttle and turn of the wheels, it'll whip itself right back over.
I've had a great time with mine. It has seen rocks, dirt, water (completely submerged on more than one occasion), and anything I could throw at it. As long as you take care of it, it'll go forever.
Truly a great truck!
RCBuddha
10-24-2002, 12:21 PM
Hi guys,
Just got mine, finally! While I like the body, I think i'm going to add a truck body. Anyone run anything different? I've already measured the Parma Chevy Blazer, and its about a 1/4 inch too long. I have ideas on how to shorten it, but has anyone tried a truck body that may fit?
Buddha
SteveK
11-06-2002, 04:38 PM
Here are some cheap and easy hop-ups to do to the Pajero:
- HPI RS4 Rally shock shafts and pistons will fit perfectly in the stock shock bodies. If you don't have the parts laying around, then you can buy the complete shocks for $15-17 a pair, and they are well worth it. Use the 'big' ball-ends on the shocks, upper and lower, from the RS4 MT.
- Traxxas tie-rods and rod-ends to replace the lower plastic 4-link rods. I forget the length, but it shouldn't be hard to find the right tie-rod from Traxxas, and it all bolts right together. You can also use a longer rod to stretch the wheelbase a bit. Some plain threaded rod and Traxxas rod-ends can replace the upper links too.
- Traxxas slider shaft to replace the stock steel unit. Again, I don't have the part numbers, but you can fit a slider shaft and yokes to the truck no problem.
The stock universal has at least 1/4" of extra room to stretch the wheelbase, and you can 'scooch' the yokes further out on the output shafts to make it even longer (Not too much). If that's too short, just use the Traxxas stuff and any body should fit OK.
microrcdude
11-06-2002, 08:34 PM
If you are getting a pajaro, r/c car magazine put the pajaros to the test and only a driveshaft came off. :D they are durible:D
Blacken
12-21-2002, 01:34 AM
my friend and i are looking at pajeros to turn into rock crawlers with 4 link suspension to help us along the way, should be some fun
SteveK
01-03-2003, 01:34 AM
The Paris-Dakar Rally is on, and while the top guys are using a new Evolution of the recent winning Pajeros, many drivers are still using the version Tamiya sells.
If you saw the outline of the spare tire on the back and wondered why Tamiya didn't at least included a molded-plastic one, I found out why today. Turns out the real Paris-Dakar trucks have it molded in for whatever reason, probably on the street version, but they carry the spare inside, where they keep the CG centered.
mcf1jz
01-05-2003, 02:07 PM
I am planning on making some parts for the tamiya cross country chassis such as aluminum skid plates, stainless steel bellcranks with sleeve, aluminum bull gaurd, etc..
is anyone interested in these parts? I am also open to any suggestions that you may have regarding parts you would like to see made for this car.
fulbore4x4
01-06-2003, 12:54 AM
Yeah, a bumper would be cool
Peterbilt
01-06-2003, 09:11 AM
Hey, could one of yall do something? I'd really appreciate it if one of yall could measure the diameter of the tire, and tell me if the rims uses a 12 mm hub.
Thanks a bunch.
mcf1jz
01-06-2003, 05:29 PM
the wheels are standard size sedan wheels, so you can use virtually any tire or wheel for the pajero
SteveK
01-06-2003, 06:42 PM
Yes, the Pajero uses 12mm hex wheels, and they are the same size as the other TC wheels. I am looking for some more scale-accurate wheels for my Pajero, at least in Dakar form.
The tires are about 3.5" in diameter, pretty tall. I have a set of Pro-Line buggy Dirt Hawgs on some HPI SNR wheels, and they are only slightly larger.
goldtj
01-26-2003, 04:24 PM
Tamiya aslo put a jeep wrangler on that chassis. It was a plastic shell and looked quite gd. I managed to break that chassis. The bottom plate that holds the inboard ends of the front arms broke in half so the front of the chassis hit the deck and i cant run it till i get a new one. Apart from that try to move the c of g lower cos they do tend to flip at high speeds.
98 SNAKE EATER
01-26-2003, 09:06 PM
What other bodies are available for the Pajero Chassis:confused:
I like the 4-link setup, but I don't really care for the Pajero itself....
Rick
SteveK
01-27-2003, 12:15 AM
Right now there is nothing else available for the Pajero. There were several other versions with different bodies: Honda CRV, street Pajero (Older version), Jeep Wrangler, and the Isuzu Mu and Amigo (On-road and off-road respectively, same body though). All those were molded styrene plastic, and go for a lot of money on ebay now.
You can fit almost any body you want to the truck: Just stretch wheelbase a little by using longer suspension links.
Doomed
02-04-2003, 01:17 PM
Hello people,
I just bought a new RTR Pajero and just wanted to say hey! And I wanted to do some mods like locking the front and rear diffs. From my searching I have heard that I need to install a piece into the rear diff. Can anyone help me out with what piece I need and where it goes? I'm a newbie that wants to climb some rocks!!!
Thanks everyone
Dana
maX energ
02-04-2003, 03:55 PM
how much do these trucks normally run?, they look very nice...and it looks to be a good chassis design!, anyone have a picture of the top of the chassis? i dont think i have even seen the top. what bearings does it take and where do some people get those BIG benz ?unibog? or something like that bodies?! i have seen them on the XC chassis and they are molded plastic, and details on that?
SteveK
02-04-2003, 05:47 PM
Doomed-
The piece you install will lock the front and rear diffs, but it only comes in the XC (Cross Country) chassis diff gear bags. Otherwise you can lock the diffs with JB Welb or Epoxy. It's not as temporary as the mechanical locker, but it works, and those diff gears are the same as other Tamiya diffs so getting replacement gears won't cost much.
maX energ-
I don't remember where they get the plastic Unimog bodies, but I think they are from toys in Europe or Japan. Yokomo and Carson make some of those semi truck racing bodies, Yoke's being most readily available now, and they look quite good on the chassis.
I forget the bearings it takes, but just take the truck apart and count the number and measure them. I know it needs two 6x12mm, two 10x15mm, about eleven 5x11mm bearings, and some smaller 5x8mm bearings.
old phart
02-04-2003, 09:56 PM
I'd be interested in whatever hop ups are made for my XB Pajero.
http://www.fototime.com/16B0753787AA916/standard.jpg
SteveK
02-04-2003, 10:53 PM
That would be a big fat ZERO. You're on your own for hop-ups and mods.
old phart
02-05-2003, 12:42 AM
Uh........ not exactly:
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is anyone interested in these parts?
I am planning on making some parts for the tamiya cross country chassis such as aluminum skid plates, stainless steel bellcranks with sleeve, aluminum bull gaurd, etc..
is anyone interested in these parts? I am also open to any suggestions that you may have regarding parts you would like to see made for this car.
Last edited by mcf1jz on 01-05-2003 at 12:11 PM
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My post was directed in response to his post.
I also know some other sources for some hop ups for the Pajero (XC chassis) such as full skids and link rear suspensions. Do your homework before you make such a blanket statement........ :rolleyes:
Doomed
02-05-2003, 11:23 AM
SteveK- Thanks for the info, I didn't know it took so many bearings! I read somewhere it took like 8. I guess I will have to go backyard machanic on it to find them all. And start glueing the diff together!!! As long as I can buy new one I'll try anything!
old phart-
"I also know some other sources for some hop ups for the Pajero (XC chassis) such as full skids and link rear suspensions."
I would be interrested in these kind of parts too if you find anything.
I'm glad to see this forum is not dead!!!
Dana
Doomed
02-05-2003, 11:26 AM
Oh and old phart, your Paj looks cool!
Dana
SteveK
02-05-2003, 01:06 PM
Old Phart-
It wasn't a rash blanket statement: There are virtually no specific hop-ups available for the XC-chassis on any kind a decent scale. If you can find me some links, go right ahead. Guys saying they will start making parts and parts actually being made are totally different: It happens all the time on message boards.
Doomed-
Yeah, it is a lot, but it's not that expensive. Duratrax carries all of them. The rear axle alone uses five 5x11mm bearings, each front wheel/axle uses one 6x12mm and one 10x15mm.
Doomed
02-06-2003, 04:46 PM
Thanks again for the info Stevek, I will check out Duratrax's page. I think it's more the number of bearing that freaked me not so much the expense. Back to ripping the poor Paj apart.
Dana
old phart
02-06-2003, 08:18 PM
SteveK: Understood.
Doomed: Thanks!
OK, check this thread:
http://pub24.ezboard.com/frcmtnet44998frm52.showMessage?topicID=147.topic
And this forum:
http://pub24.ezboard.com/frcmtnet44998frm52
Look for a few individuals there who make hop-ups for this chassis. ;)
whyochi
02-09-2003, 03:49 PM
Just so you fellas have an idea of what one of these trucks can do when there pushed to the edge I've attached a pic of one of my outings-In terms of hop ups tamiya did realese the front one way tourqe splitter unit spasificaly for the pajero and you can use a black foot body with almost no mods (A clod or jugg body will have to be shortened).Pajeros are like any other car if you look there are pleanty of options.The one in the pic is my XB that is running traxxas long shocks on all corners,ofna pirate 10 rims proline dirt paw tires(dirt hog now;)) a magnetic mayhem motor full bearings a XL-1 speed control a modded motor mount to alow a 14 tooth pinion and a body lift........
old phart
02-10-2003, 10:31 PM
Wow! :eek:
98 SNAKE EATER
02-10-2003, 10:37 PM
LOL :D
goldtj
02-12-2003, 07:54 AM
how they @+!£ did u get it to do that?
whyochi
02-12-2003, 10:40 AM
:P lets see meaty tires,mean motor,and low gearing it's what makes the world go round!
Doomed
02-14-2003, 10:00 PM
In the immortal words of Butthead... "Uhhhhh what?"
just playing whyochi, thanks for the info on the traxxas long shocks, I would guess it would take a lot of other mods to use those. :cool:
Dana
Maxxcrazy
02-16-2003, 08:24 PM
i have one. 4in shocks in the back, hummer wheels and no decals
Doomed
02-19-2003, 11:52 AM
Hey Maxxcrazy, lets see your Paj! Post some pics!
Dana
jeepboy109
02-19-2003, 03:29 PM
yo i want to get a pajero im ordring it tonite i want it to look like the one in the picture above whats the tires? and rims? i no how to lift the back but how do u lift the front ifs? (indapendent front suspension? i was thinking of streching the back axle and making longer suspension arms that would look cool and make it more stable what u guys think?:confused:
Maxxcrazy
02-19-2003, 04:58 PM
just file the c part where the arm is touching it.
http://pic3.picturetrail.com/VOL24/811306/1689300/20373328.jpg
http://pic3.picturetrail.com/VOL24/811306/1689300/20373319.jpg
http://pic3.picturetrail.com/VOL24/811306/1689300/20373312.jpg
http://pic3.picturetrail.com/VOL24/811306/1689300/20373304.jpg
cardesigner
02-19-2003, 11:34 PM
I'm going to order the Pajero XB this week. I have an extra set of shocks from my Nitro MT that would work perfect to extend the travel, along with a super rooster ESC and a Ram light kit that's sitting around. I've been thinking about this thing for a long time now, and it's time to get going on the crawler project! I had saved $200 for upgrades for my Savage, but it really doesn't need any so what the heck...it's time for another truck!
I wish it came with the hard body, but after seeing a complete Pajero metaltop go for over $500 recently, I'll be happy with the lexan.
Does anyone know if the XB comes with full bearings, or only at the axles?
Maxxcrazy
02-20-2003, 03:32 PM
all of it has bushings
Maxxcrazy
02-20-2003, 05:24 PM
i tryed to get a video of my jero going down my snow pile but this is what i got- sites.waldonet.net.mt/juggster/maxx.avi
Doomed
02-20-2003, 11:48 PM
Great pics Maxxcrazy! I am trying to decide if I want to de-sticker mine. It's quite new still. As soon as I find all the bearing in this thing and get it back together I will post some pics.
D
Maxxcrazy
02-22-2003, 06:42 PM
I just covered my whole chassis in saran wrap and with all teh rain i'm getting i'm gonna make a mud pit and go mudding!. I'll get some befroe, after and after-cleanup pics
Doomed
02-23-2003, 06:27 PM
Can't wait to see the muddin' pics!:cool:
whyochi
02-23-2003, 08:32 PM
Ay maxx how come we never saw those on RCJP!?!J/K looks great I think mine might shead a few stickers to soon If I don't put a full cage on it-anyhow heres a few more pics of mine on the rocks!
whyochi
02-23-2003, 08:39 PM
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whyochi
02-23-2003, 08:44 PM
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whyochi
02-23-2003, 08:50 PM
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Maxxcrazy
02-23-2003, 09:41 PM
nice pics. I'm gonna get some losi smashers soon for my jero.
Doomed
02-23-2003, 10:29 PM
Went out to play in the snow tonight, trying to post some pics.
Doomed
02-23-2003, 10:36 PM
Trying again
Doomed
02-23-2003, 10:37 PM
and another
Doomed
02-23-2003, 10:39 PM
another
Maxxcrazy
02-24-2003, 05:25 PM
Nice Pajero. Needs to be raised though ;)
i took some pics today too:
http://pic3.picturetrail.com/VOL24/811306/1689300/20652285.jpg
http://pic3.picturetrail.com/VOL24/811306/1689300/20652297.jpg
Doomed
02-26-2003, 10:21 AM
Holy crap, you weren't kidding about the mud'in! Thats very cool! And yes mine will be raised soon. Way to stock. Mods are coming and I will keep everyone informed.
Dana
RCBuddha
02-26-2003, 11:12 AM
SteveK,
The Mercedes Unimog kit you mentioned earlier is made as an RTR Kit for kids from Carson in Germany. I got my hands on one for about 180 US. I'll post some pics for you guys soon.
Buddha
Jimmy33
02-26-2003, 03:25 PM
I REALLY want one but I am in england I appparently I cannot order it from my LHS, where can I get one? I REALLY want one. I have wanted one every since my friend had the Jeep and I saw the orginal Mitsu, but I will settle for this IF i can get it!!!!!! :(
Maxxcrazy
02-26-2003, 04:00 PM
Tower hobbies might ship to england. you can find them here (www.towerhobbies.com)
When i get some money i'm gonna order some losi smashers and a Havok motor. Maybe some front aluminum shocks too. and an esc. :D
Jimmy33
02-26-2003, 04:33 PM
I can't find it though HELP
edit - found it wow - I was worried, now if I can only get my dad to lend me his credit card... :)
Maxxcrazy
02-26-2003, 05:11 PM
My hummer wheels just came. I'll get pics when i install them.
RCBuddha
02-27-2003, 11:54 AM
guys,
here's some links to my photo albums where I have pictures of R/C Unimogs, and some real unimogs....
Buddha's RC Stuff : http://www.dotphoto.com/go.asp?l=RCBuddha&AID=398659
Unimog Pics: http://www.dotphoto.com/go.asp?l=RCBuddha&AID=398740
enjoy!
Buddha
SteveK
02-27-2003, 05:06 PM
What are the part #s for the Hummer wheels and tires? I'd like a set for my 'Jero. They look a little more 'utilitatrian' than the stock wheels, which don't even match the ones from the real trucks.
cummins driver
02-28-2003, 07:59 PM
Where did/can you buy the unimog at? Is it 7.2 volts? Is it very powerful,and what kind of stock motor comes with it?Is it 4wd?Those unimogs are neat,and i doubt ill buy one,but i was just curious about them.:)
SteveK
02-28-2003, 08:51 PM
The oranga Unimog is a plastic body on a Pajero chassis. The other ones are the stock vehicles, which I think are toy-like chassis. I really want one of the Pajero bodies, but can't find them like that.
For a similar look, get your hands on a Carson or Yokomo 'truck racing' body, the kind they run in Europe. They look very good, and will actually work better due to lighter weight and more durability.
Maxxcrazy
02-28-2003, 09:03 PM
i don't have the wheels and tires part numbers. I traded for them. But if anyone has a single hummer wheels LMK rageweapon16@yahoo.com
Cychalen
03-02-2003, 08:30 AM
It took 6 months for the LHS to find one for me, but it is finally here. :D
I was so happy and forgot to trim the throttle and steering before switching the car on. The car run a way and hit a table leg. :o The MSC has to go for sure. ;)
Do I have to get extra parts to fit a Mitsubishi Pajero Metatop Wide or Jeep Wrangler body?
SteveK
03-02-2003, 12:23 PM
If you can find them, I believe you do need a few body mount parts, but I'm sure you can fudge that. However, those bodies are so rare and expensive, I wouldn't dare run one.
whyochi
03-02-2003, 04:41 PM
Yup you'll need a front body mount to use the metal top wide body-wouldn't run the matal top body?SHUCKS!I run the one in the pic below all the time-you just have to lay off jumping and high speed runs if you take it easy you'll be fine:D
SteveK
03-02-2003, 05:03 PM
I'd love to have an MTW or Wrangler (Or Mu/Amigo or CRV) and use it, but I wouldn't actually pay the $50+ that they are going for, spend all the time painting it, and then see it scratched and broken while running. Just too nice (And expensive) to use properly.
I'll stick with various Lexan bodies: Cheaper and fewer worries and headaches.
Doomed
03-02-2003, 05:43 PM
Those Unimogs are cool!
Cychalen
03-03-2003, 09:57 AM
I think I can find a Jeep Wrangler body, but what I really want is a Mitsubishi Pajero Metatop Wide.
Is this E4 part all I need?
Doomed
03-04-2003, 12:02 PM
I want to see those Hummer wheels Maxxcrazy!
D
Maxxcrazy
03-04-2003, 03:26 PM
arg i guess i have to...
http://pic3.picturetrail.com/VOL24/811306/1689300/21034845.jpg
http://pic3.picturetrail.com/VOL24/811306/1689300/21034873.jpg
http://pic3.picturetrail.com/VOL24/811306/1689300/21034867.jpg
And a shot of my spare...
http://pic3.picturetrail.com/VOL24/811306/1689300/21034857.jpg
Maxxcrazy
03-04-2003, 03:28 PM
Cychalen, you can find that part on the E tree of parts. There is a couple e trees on ebay right now. Just type "pajero" in the search bar
Cychalen
03-04-2003, 05:45 PM
Maxxcrazy. That looks like a lot of fun. :)
Thanks for the tip.
whyochi
03-05-2003, 05:42 PM
I went out for an extended bash sesson (would you blieve 3 hours!?) and took over 120pics here are a few.........
http://pics.montypics.com/Highmark/2003-03-04/42.jpg
http://pics.montypics.com/Highmark/2003-03-04/5.jpg
http://pics.montypics.com/Highmark/2003-03-04/6.jpg
http://pics.montypics.com/Highmark/2003-03-04/19.jpg
http://pics.montypics.com/Highmark/2003-03-04/11.jpg
http://pics.montypics.com/Highmark/2003-03-04/12.jpg
http://pics.montypics.com/Highmark/2003-03-04/10.jpg
http://pics.montypics.com/Highmark/2003-03-04/9.jpg
Maxxcrazy
03-05-2003, 07:21 PM
Wow 3 hours?!?!?! Nice pix. How many battery packs did you use?
SuperRally1
03-05-2003, 07:47 PM
wow! i really wana get one of these! is this it? http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXUV00&P=7
cummins driver
03-05-2003, 09:08 PM
Yeah,im pretty sure thats it.I like them too!
Maxxcrazy
03-05-2003, 09:45 PM
Yep thats it. I got mine at tower hobbies too.
whyochi
03-05-2003, 10:36 PM
Well I have 8 2000mah's and 2 1500's that I cycled threw using a cooling fan and 2 chargers-worked well I also drove the trucks at diffrent times to keep electronics cool. It took alot of plaining but was well worth it!:D
SuperRally1
03-06-2003, 04:32 PM
lol coool!
BTW, i saved everones pictures.. i have my background set to the pej thats in the mud.. and my screensaver is pictures of ur cars!
Doomed
03-07-2003, 09:22 AM
Maxxcrazy
Those Hummer wheels look sweet! I want them, do you have the part numbers handy? If not I will search, no big deal. You only have 10 batteries? j/k :D
D
Cychalen
03-07-2003, 09:35 AM
The part # is 9335205.
Maxxcrazy
03-07-2003, 04:38 PM
thanks SuperRally1
doomed- I dont have the part #'s. I traded for them.
last night i made a new link set up and tested it out. sorry for the snow
http://pic3.picturetrail.com/VOL24/811306/1689300/21249796.jpg
Doomed
03-07-2003, 07:37 PM
Cychalen- thanks for the numbers, they are sold out everywhere!
Maxxcrazy- cool setup.
whyochi
03-07-2003, 10:52 PM
NICE!:D man Joose really made an impression didn't he? lol any who yup only(?) 10-I don't race or anything (I'm a 100% of road guy lol) so I don't really need any more:P
Cychalen
03-07-2003, 10:55 PM
Here is mine with the obligatory shot.
It is all stock.
I tried to install TXT-1 shocks last night but they are too long. The springs are too hard too. :(
Maxxcrazy
03-08-2003, 08:10 PM
nice jero. Mines only been that clean when it was new. Txt shocks should fit in the rear but not the front.
Cychalen
03-08-2003, 08:23 PM
Can you recommend a longer Tamiya shock? I know that touring car shocks fit nicely, but I want something longer.
I prefer Tamiya parts. ;) Thanks.
SteveK
03-09-2003, 12:34 AM
The Pajero comes with the makings of oil shocks. To convert them you need:
- O-rings for the shaft seals.
- Bladders for the top seal.
- Shafts.
- Pistons.
I test-fit these, and the HPI RS4 Rally shafts and pistons fit perfectly. Just add some regular HPI, Traxxas, or Associated shock ends to the bottom, and a couple spacers to keep them from bottoming out against the bladder (The shafts are too long for the body, but match the length of the stock shocks) and you're all set.
The front can't really handle anything longer. I've tried, just doesn't have the droop travel to support it.
Maxxcrazy
03-09-2003, 04:59 PM
http://pic3.picturetrail.com/VOL10/971923/1802350/21361543.jpg for those who wanted a better pic
whyochi
03-10-2003, 10:15 PM
Here is a few more pics of mine-sorry about the close ups I wasd trying to stay relativly close so I could see the deepness of some of the water I was driving of into so I could hopefully keep from drowning it:lol
uhhhhhh no
http://pics.montypics.com/Highmark/2003-03-09/46.jpg
I played in some ruts for a while....
http://pics.montypics.com/Highmark/2003-03-09/48.jpg
http://pics.montypics.com/Highmark/2003-03-09/49.jpg
Thewn I moved on to some mild mudding...
http://pics.montypics.com/Highmark/2003-03-09/50.jpg
http://pics.montypics.com/Highmark/2003-03-09/51.jpg
http://pics.montypics.com/Highmark/2003-03-09/52.jpg
http://pics.montypics.com/Highmark/2003-03-09/53.jpg
http://pics.montypics.com/Highmark/2003-03-09/54.jpg
http://pics.montypics.com/Highmark/2003-03-09/55.jpg
http://pics.montypics.com/Highmark/2003-03-09/56.jpg
http://pics.montypics.com/Highmark/2003-03-09/59.jpg
Then I moved on to some near by rocks for a well balenced diet:lol
http://pics.montypics.com/Highmark/2003-03-09/57.jpg
http://pics.montypics.com/Highmark/2003-03-09/58.jpg
Tell ma what you think!
98 SNAKE EATER
03-10-2003, 10:25 PM
Nice:)
Cychalen
03-10-2003, 11:33 PM
SteveK, thanks for the info. I think it is easier and maybe cheaper for me to get a full set of oil shocks rather than getting the parts separately.
whyochi, cool! :cool:
hua15
03-11-2003, 02:55 AM
http://www.rcrock.com/product/tms/chassis/pajero/1.jpg
http://www.rcrock.com/product/tms/chassis/pajero/2.jpg
-Hua
Cychalen
03-11-2003, 04:52 AM
:eek: My Pajero looks so plain compared to yours.
I really have to lock those rear differentials. It does not climb well stock.
Martsie 89
03-11-2003, 11:46 AM
what is the speed difference between the pajero and an e maxx?
SteveK
03-11-2003, 04:07 PM
Hmm, apples vs oranges anyone? But since you asked, the E-Maxx will top out at maybe 30mph, possibly a couple mhp more, and the box-stock Pajero will do about 13mph. Of course, given the intended purpose, and inherent handling characteristics of the Pajero chassis (High CG and short wheelbase: Even with the stock motor, crank the wheel on pavement at top speed and your going over), speed is not what it was intended for.
hua15-
How is that chassis? I was looking at it a while back. I don't want to drop 5 bills on it, but I would consider those front and rear axles.
SteveK
03-11-2003, 04:14 PM
Cychalen-
If you can, get a couple extra sets of diff gears, especially for the rear. In the original kits, there was a little piece you could stick in the diff to lock it without doing it permantly. You can either leave the front 'free', lock it with epoxy, or even try the rear locker up front. I'm pretty sure the front diff is the same as in most of the Tamiya touring cars (TA03, TL01, M03/FF02), so finding replacements for that will be no problem, but the rear could be, so think twice about locking it for good if you don't have to.
Maxxcrazy
03-11-2003, 04:26 PM
stevek-
I thought you knew everything! Thats a robbe chassis with robbe axles. the complete rolling chassis is availible at www.rc4wd.com (hua15's site)
SteveK
03-11-2003, 04:44 PM
Well, I know OF it, but there is so little on those trucks in English I figured I'd ask whomever had one. I saw the axles on his site.
Cychalen
03-11-2003, 06:12 PM
Originally posted by SteveK
Cychalen-
If you can, get a couple extra sets of diff gears, especially for the rear. In the original kits, there was a little piece you could stick in the diff to lock it without doing it permantly. You can either leave the front 'free', lock it with epoxy, or even try the rear locker up front. I'm pretty sure the front diff is the same as in most of the Tamiya touring cars (TA03, TL01, M03/FF02), so finding replacements for that will be no problem, but the rear could be, so think twice about locking it for good if you don't have to.
I need 2X G5 pieces to lock the differential. Am I right?
http://www.joro-tuning.de/diff.JPG
SteveK
03-11-2003, 07:12 PM
Yup, that's it. They come in the G-parts bag for the Cross-Country chassis. They might work up front too: No sense if gluing the front diff if you don't have to.
Maxxcrazy
03-12-2003, 04:08 PM
I soldered mine up. Its holding pretty well
Maxxcrazy
03-12-2003, 04:09 PM
cmon people one more page then i don't have to scroll down to see the newest posts
cummins driver
03-12-2003, 05:33 PM
Is the Pajero very tourquie? I would think so if it only goes 13mph. Can you upgrade motors on it,and put bigger or smaller pinion gears on it?
whyochi
03-12-2003, 09:11 PM
Yes you can use that locker on the front of the jero-I use two of them in my XB you just need to make sure you order the part for the metal top not the XB I've heard that there two diffrent things. Anyhow the stock Jero has a good bit of tourqe but could use a good stock motor in it to livin' things up a bit. I use a mag mayhem to really get things going but it's a tight fit. With the stock motor plate the smallest pinion you can use is a 16t or 20t pinion but that's it unless you wanna play around with drilling holes in it (I maneged to get a 14t in there). Hope that helps a bit......
SteveK
03-12-2003, 09:22 PM
Don't forget that 13mph comes from a very low-RPM Mabuchi 540 motor. You have two pinion options, 16 and 20 teeth. 16 is stock, and 20 should be good for an extre few MPH, but as I've said, it's not necessarily the best thing. Any 540 can be fitted, as can the 550 Kyosho Magnetic Mayhem, an excellent choice for this truck.
The Pajero has a ton of torque and power. As long as the wheels are in contact with the surface, it will crawl or climb anything. We keep out grass long in the summer, it's well over the tire height, and the Pajero was able to just grind across it quite quickly.
Maxxcrazy
03-15-2003, 01:11 PM
DONT GET HUMMER TIRES!!!!!!! they don't self clean and when you go through a little patch of mud they become slicks becuase of there horrible self cleaning. Just use the humer rims with your stock tires. Im gonna get some HPI black mesh wheels on losi smashers becuase they look great and self clean really well
Janders
03-15-2003, 02:43 PM
The real(life size) Humvee tires suck the same way. The rims + tires also weigh well over fifty pounds each. I hate humvees alltogether. The military ones only had 150hp, allthough there were gobs of torque.
SteveK
03-15-2003, 03:00 PM
Gobs of torque is what you want, not horsepower. But I guess when all you look at is numbers and not performance.....
whyochi
03-15-2003, 05:01 PM
Hehe ya I used them for about 2 packs-I was wondering how your experence with them would go! :P
jeepboy109
03-15-2003, 08:53 PM
yea lets see som pics of pajeros in mud and snow that would be cool!!:D
Maxxcrazy
03-16-2003, 02:32 PM
http://pic3.picturetrail.com/VOL24/811306/1689300/20652297.jpg
old pic
Maxxcrazy
03-18-2003, 03:56 PM
whyochi- im changing tires really soon
whyochi
03-18-2003, 06:24 PM
Hay maxx your going with the smashers right?-Don't use the HPI rims theres not enough off set!
Maxxcrazy
03-18-2003, 08:13 PM
ya thats me. I changed my mind. I'm gonna get RPM sling shot front pede rims
SteveK
03-22-2003, 04:07 PM
How can we get the mods to merge this with the other X-Country chassis truck thread?
Maxxcrazy
03-22-2003, 05:13 PM
since this thread is longer, i say edit the title to Tamiya Cross Country Forum
anyway i got some new pics of it in action
http://pic3.picturetrail.com/VOL10/971923/1802350/22077327.jpg
http://pic3.picturetrail.com/VOL10/971923/1802350/22077318.jpg
http://pic3.picturetrail.com/VOL10/971923/1802350/22077308.jpg
http://pic3.picturetrail.com/VOL10/971923/1802350/22077297.jpg
http://pic3.picturetrail.com/VOL10/971923/1802350/22077293.jpg
Doomed
03-22-2003, 05:31 PM
4th one looks like you are going to come down hard!!!
Maxxcrazy
03-22-2003, 05:57 PM
dont worry, it landed it fine. but the first time i tryed it, it jumped fine, but it did a nose dive into the rock below. no damage
98 SNAKE EATER
03-22-2003, 05:58 PM
3rd pic makes it look like a real rock crawler:)
Very Kewl:cool:
whyochi
03-22-2003, 08:51 PM
I had a little fun in the mudd with my MTW today...
http://www.******.net/media/sm-85.jpg
http://www.******.net/media/sm-84.jpg
http://www.******.net/media/sm-83.jpg
http://www.******.net/media/sm-82.jpg
hehe tell me what you think...
Cychalen
03-22-2003, 09:21 PM
Maxxcrazy, I really like the 4th shot. :eek:
whyochi, very cool! :cool:
cummins driver
03-22-2003, 11:18 PM
Wyochi,is that fourwheeler in the background of the first picture yours? What kind is it? Nice pictures too. Was water getting up on the frame though, because some of it looked fairly deep.
Maxxcrazy
03-23-2003, 06:46 PM
thanks
whyochi-
With the stock motor plate the smallest pinion you can use is a 16t or 20t pinion but that's it unless you wanna play around with drilling holes in it (I maneged to get a 14t in there). Hope that helps a bit......
did you drill holes to fit it in there? ive been planning to fit one in myself
whyochi
03-24-2003, 09:27 PM
Ya I had an extra motor plate so I eyeballed it,drilled the holes and added some washers for support-yes that's a Honda Recon (250cc) I use it for trail dutys and taking the jero's from place to place. It has a few minnor mods but's pretty much stock and o ya I put some mud gards on there around the fenders to keep water and mudd from splashing all over the electronics (the battery was almost submerged at one point but it's sealed) nontheless that didn't help prtect the 6 bearings I seized!:P
Doomed
03-25-2003, 01:06 PM
Seized 6 bearings! Thats great! Well not great but you know what I mean. I know everyone knows this but Sand + MSC = bad throttle control!!! Car jumping everywhere. Pushed me to buy an ESC yesterday. Oh well, needed to be done.
Dana
tl01_staniland
03-25-2003, 03:38 PM
anyone here live in uk...
where did u get ur pajero
i cant seem to find one...please help
ash
ps. how much was it
Jimmy33
03-25-2003, 03:47 PM
hello there a fellow uk'er how has been hit by the fact that Tamiya doesn't import them any more :(
You can get them from tower hobbies at around £50 for shipping which I thought was too much so I am stuck and am trying to find one on ebay...
Good luck :D
tl01_staniland
03-25-2003, 04:06 PM
i cant buy from ebay because i am too young (14)
where else would i get one
ash
cummins driver
03-25-2003, 07:48 PM
I have a honda foreman 400 4x4, and i was just wondering if that fourwheeler was yours or not.I use mine mainly for farm work, and riding the trails around my 27 acre farm.I also haul my stampede places with it.I have a big mud hole i ride in a lot, and i have never had it stuck.
Jimmy33
03-26-2003, 02:33 PM
that is the problem I havn't been able to find any where and my LHS said they cannot get them. I wanted to buy from tower hobvbies but the price for shipping is WAY too high and my car is frozen - again - :rolleyes: and I cannot find a decent on on ebay! So far I believe we are stuck untill tamiya bring them back to the UK
Rally Dude evo2
03-26-2003, 08:54 PM
Hey, I have wanted to get a Pajero for the longest time, then I saw it on Dakar rally and I wanted it even more (wishing that they made an EVO version). So.... have any of you guys tried running this stock at a dirt track? I'm guessing it probaly rolls easily around corners and on jumps.:D
Doomed
03-27-2003, 10:59 AM
Get one, its fun, but yes it does roll a little easier then a car or buggy. I use mine for crawling and off-road mostly so I don't mind.
Dana
cummins driver
04-01-2003, 08:38 PM
Type in this number in the GO TO box on ebay, and check ou these awesome aluminum rims for the Pajero!! Heres the #:
Item # 3124488663
I think they are awesome! They are a little expensive but they are really realistic looking.
Maxxcrazy
04-05-2003, 01:29 PM
went out to get it a little muddy yesterday
http://pic3.picturetrail.com/VOL10/971923/1802350/22813568.jpg
http://pic3.picturetrail.com/VOL10/971923/1802350/22813562.jpg
http://pic3.picturetrail.com/VOL10/971923/1802350/22813559.jpg
Heres another new link set up. it uses the lower crv link mounts to mount the upper links. works really good.
http://pic3.picturetrail.com/VOL10/971923/1802350/22813551.jpg
XxDRIVERxX6
04-05-2003, 04:21 PM
Heres a pic of my pajero got it back in mid Dec...
It has Hitec 645mg, Magnetic Mayhem, Lrp Sport reverse esc, Duratrax nitro buggy paint wheels with dirthawg 1&3 tires, blue screws/wheel nuts, Blue aluminum servo arm, locked rear diff, full bearings, duratrax aluminum shocks f/r, and a custom skids... I used the buggy tires while im waiting for my losi smashers that have been on B/o for about 3 weeks now :/
http://www.******.net/img/1344
Ya its seen a few trails and rocks, lol and after half the decals were ripped off from scraping the rocks i took them all off and put on some TRF decals..
Later,Shawn
Doomed
04-05-2003, 05:03 PM
I don't think I have ever seen Maxxcrazy's truck clean!!! :D
hua15
04-07-2003, 02:54 AM
Just drove mine:
http://www.rcrock.com/images/truck/hummer/dune/4.jpg
http://www.rcrock.com/images/truck/hummer/dune/6.jpg
-Hua
tranced
04-09-2003, 03:30 PM
hua what camera are u using? thiose shots are crisp!
damn i LOVE lookin at everyone's pajero pics!
this r/c looks so realistic, brings back the newbie r/c'er in me!
i want one so bad right now :o
Maxxcrazy
04-09-2003, 10:08 PM
thanks man, but the last set of pics I posted its clean.
i plan on cleaning it up real nice... and then getting it more muddy :)
Maxxcrazy
04-09-2003, 10:09 PM
tranced- you don't have to be a newbie to have one. the jero is my 3rd rc and im having tons of fun with it.
whyochi
04-11-2003, 03:44 PM
Uhhh Max I think he means it brings all the excitment back into R/C and I have to agree with him-FUN TRUCKS!
Maxxcrazy
04-12-2003, 08:22 PM
WOOT finnaly a 5th page so i can hit the last page button and be taken to the newest pics. woot!
Maxxcrazy
04-16-2003, 08:06 PM
to spice things up a bit heres how my jero looks now
http://pic6.picturetrail.com/VOL169/1051337/1969403/23548321.jpg
OrcSlayer
04-16-2003, 10:32 PM
You run with your mirrors on? That's hardcore dude. So is putting that rather dirty truck on your bed... On a more serious note, can anyone recommend some good shocks and an ESC for my 'Jero? Yep, I've been running that MSC, and I think I've just about killed it. :D Anyone have any experience with the Traxxas XL1 in particular? All I really want from an ESC is that it have reverse. I don't think I will be using any really wild mod motors in a 'Jero, so a high turn limit doesn't bother me. I would like one that comes with everything neccessary included. I don't want to have to buy capacitors and bullet connectors and all that crap seperately. Also, any recommendations as to what shocks to go with? I've seen the 3" and 4" Duratrax shocks suggested for the front and rear respectively, but others say they leak no matter what you do. :confused: Thanks.
XxDRIVERxX6
04-17-2003, 12:35 AM
Hey,
lol I lost both my mirrors 2 weeks after I got my jero.. I drive carefully :D
I ran the XL1 in my jero with my MagMayhem for about a week until I drove it into 3ft of water... (playing by the river :confused: )
and it fried but otherwise it worked well...
Dont know why the 3ft of water fried the esc.. I mean it was only in there for a few min :confused: lol
As for shocks I use the duratrax 4" and 3" and I havent had a leakage problem yet...
Later,Shawn
Maxxcrazy
04-17-2003, 11:20 AM
if you doubt the duratrax shocks, go with 4in and 3in Hot bodies shocks. they come in threaded and non threaded too. and blue or purple. there pretty kool and i havent heard anything about them leaking before.
I only have 1 mirror on becuase a few weeks ago the drivers side mirror snapped off in a nasty roll over.
im gonna get some crossmembers for the grill guard really soon.
Doomed
04-17-2003, 04:33 PM
Hey guys I posted in Jims, but either no one knows or they don't care :confused: but what other dog bones work on the Pajero? LHS can't get them and Tower says discontinued?
whyochi
04-17-2003, 07:06 PM
Yup the silver crawler is up for grabs in the sell/trade forum so cheak it out-doomed tl-o1 bones fit (and there are ALOT of tamiya's using them lol) and you guessed it so do jero ones.
Doomed
04-17-2003, 07:51 PM
Cool, thanks for the speedy response whyochi, sorry to hear the crawlers going. :(
SteveK
04-17-2003, 08:54 PM
It looks like the Pajero uses TA03 front hub carriers, so maybe those inversals will fit.
Doomed
04-18-2003, 05:29 PM
Universals would be very cool, I'm looking into this right now.
The pic is from the TL01 forum via "TA03 Drive Hard"
Thanks guys.
whyochi
04-19-2003, 10:44 AM
Hehe I've though about that many times but just never really got the guts to do it-I think I might try using the front 1 way for a TL-01 sone thow to get the locked front and still have a resonable turning raius on my metal top-shoot may even swing for the Universals while I'm at it, and then the alum hummer front arms and a mag mayhem and a new speed control with some nice shiney alum. shocks o o and......lol
Maxxcrazy
04-19-2003, 01:42 PM
any idea on how much those axles cost?
Hua just released a pajero bearing kit too. check it out here (http://www.rc4wd.com)
Doomed
04-19-2003, 02:54 PM
$33.99 from Tower. #49201
SteveK
04-19-2003, 05:27 PM
Those won't fit the Pajero without new steering axle carriers: The Pajero uses the 'stepped' axles from the TA03, with a 6x12mm bearing on the outer part and a 10x15mm bearing on the inner part. TL01 carriers should fit, but you'll need four 5x11mm bearings for those, to use those axles.
Maxxcrazy
04-23-2003, 01:09 PM
anyone see the new HPI yokohama geolander tires? those look sweet. they seem to be too big for a jero though :(
Doomed
04-23-2003, 02:54 PM
Pics? I know I'm lazy.
Maxxcrazy
04-24-2003, 02:39 PM
http://www.hpiracing.com/graphics/tires/4456.jpg
Doomed
04-24-2003, 05:39 PM
Those are cool, I really like the dark wheels too. So what is the fit problem Max? Are they just huge? Can't tell from the pic.
SteveK
04-24-2003, 06:44 PM
They are probably 2.2" truck tires, HPI's version of the Dirt Hawgs (Like the Losi Smashers).
holshotracer
04-25-2003, 07:32 PM
that cool how hpi is making real life tires for rc
Maxxcrazy
04-26-2003, 11:43 AM
ya there 2.2 sized. Losi smashers will fit, but these tire's sidewall is way to big and there will be a lot of rubbing.
Maxxcrazy
04-26-2003, 07:44 PM
WOOT!! Imex is making 2.2 sized boggers (swamp dawgs). hopefully they will fit a jero w/o rubbing
SteveK
04-26-2003, 07:54 PM
I doubt it: The 2.2" versions of those 'bar' tires are HUGE (They are actually like 15 years old), and I think the 2.2" Swamp Dogs will be at least 5" tall.
They used to make some cool 2.2" versions of those Clod and Maxx-size Baja tires, I wish they'd bring them back.
Maxxcrazy
04-27-2003, 02:16 PM
You mean The pullers?
it would be kool is someone made a realistic set of tires and wheels. Like 1.5in by 1.3in bead locks with 4in boggers. And they could have a whole line of realistic tires. That would be kool.
Doomed
04-28-2003, 11:30 AM
I'm right there with you, more realistic, not the more monster truck.
Maxxcrazy
04-28-2003, 04:33 PM
http://www.******.net/media/j1.jpg
http://www.******.net/media/j2.jpg
http://www.******.net/media/j3.jpg
http://www.******.net/media/j4.jpg
OrcSlayer
04-28-2003, 06:58 PM
I got some Pajero stuff... XL1 ESC here, and shocks (Blue threaded Hot Bodies) being shipped. I also got a couple of Mini-Zs and some bodies. I need to do something about my 'Jero's front bumper. My body has developed cracks in the front, presumably from the stock bumper flexing when I hit stuff. I agree about having scale tires. Part of the Pajero's appeal is the scale-ness. Why ruin it?
M03racer
04-29-2003, 02:57 AM
i was thinking about getting one of these buggers for a project car but am still deciding if i want to spend the money. Could someone please post a few pics of the top of the chassis. Especially the shock towers and raido tray.
Thanks,
David
Maxxcrazy
04-29-2003, 07:36 PM
Shock towers? there is none. the shocks are mounted inside the chassis fenders like a real car
M03racer
04-29-2003, 09:58 PM
Hmm. I had a feeling that would be the case. i would still like to see some pictures of the top of the chassis though if it is not too much trouble. Thanks.
OrcSlayer
04-30-2003, 12:17 AM
Argh. I was trying to turn those little plastic screws that adjust the trims on the XL1 and one of them snapped off. Apparently, this happens to a lot of people because the manual warns you about it. It also says it won't be covered by warranty. Hmm.... seems like this breakage is pretty common. Couldn't be because of a poor design, could it? Naw... must have been the customer's fault every time. :mad: Ok, ok, maybe it is my fault. I just needed to vent. And since Traxxas's warranty is pretty much useless to me now, I said screw it and took the ESC apart. Maybe I can snap the little plastic screw thingy back on... m03 racer, the Pajero's radio tray is rectangular, around 2" by 1.5" (visual estimate). The receiver takes up half of it. Sorry, no digital camera, or I would snap a pic for you.
OrcSlayer
04-30-2003, 12:27 AM
http://members.chello.nl/~shout/****/xc/07.jpg
That is a poor picture of the XC chassis, but it's the best I could do on short notice. Umm, the Pajero's the black one, but I think you already knew that. The radio tray is the rectangular thing aft of the motor that the battery pack slides in under. This chassis also has some sort of custom front body mount and skid plate/bumper.
Maxxcrazy
04-30-2003, 12:25 PM
when you click the link, put r c m t where the stars are (no spaces). That should work. I hate how rcca blocks it
SteveK
04-30-2003, 03:16 PM
Orcslayer:
The XL1 is probably the oldest ESC on the market. I remember it from 1989/90, and it's still around. When no other ESCs were under $50-60, it was a good buy, but not you can get a better ESC for $50 than you could for $80 a few years ago. Drop some cash and get a newer ESC if the XL1 can't be easily fixed.
Futaba, Duratrx, Hitec, Airtronics, Novak, Futaba, GM, and LRP/Associated make excellent units, some $50 or less. I can't see going below 20 turns with this truck, so something like the Futaba MC230CR is a great choice: Mine is very smooth and easy to use.
OrcSlayer
04-30-2003, 04:27 PM
Thanks for the suggestion, SteveK. I actually looked at that very model once. Does the MC230CR have reverse?
SteveK
04-30-2003, 04:46 PM
Yes, the MC230 has reverse. It's got a high frequency drive, so it's very smooth, with excellent slow-speed control. I love mine for crawling, as you can really get a fine throttle touch with it, down to a very sloooooow crawl no problem.
M03racer
05-01-2003, 06:33 PM
thanks for the picture. sure isnt beautiful is it. haha
one_mean_rc10gt
05-01-2003, 11:34 PM
Let me know if you have one at eighth_scale@hotmail.com
OrcSlayer
05-02-2003, 09:34 PM
I should say my Pajero is a project truck. It sound much cooler that way. :D I did buy it with the intention of modding it and tinkering around with it. So anyway, I've got another question, and a dumb one at that. Which motor wire is positive, and which is negative? I'm still using the stock silver can (I'm assuming people change these wires out when they get new motors). I know its slow, but it seems to have enough power to crawl around on stuff in my backyard. TIA.
SteveK
05-02-2003, 10:45 PM
Yellow is positive, green is negative. Or there is a little dot on the positive tab. If I'm wrong, just flip the wires: No big deal.
Mabuchi 540s are good motors for this application: Lots of power, run cool, and they are cheap and last long. The truck has a TON of grunt. We keep out grass as long as the mower will cut it in the summer, like as long as the tires so it rubbed on the chassis, and the Pajero just plowed through without slowing too much. You could stop and go no problem, don't need to get a run up before it like other trucks (Including some 2WD monster trucks).
OrcSlayer
05-02-2003, 11:39 PM
Any tips on modding the front suspension? Can't you dremel off part of the hub carriers to get more travel up there? I don't have a dremel, but I'm sure I can borrow one from someone. Once I get these front shocks and the ESC on, I think I'll be set for the time being. I see a 4 link in the 'Jero's future, though I don't seem to have a lack of articulation. With the 4" shocks bottomed out, I'm within a few mm of hitting the chassis with my tires. Problem is, the stock links sorta flex instead of pivoting when I do this.:)
SteveK
05-03-2003, 12:04 PM
I've played with the front suspension, and your best option is you work on the bump or up travel. Down travel is already nearly maxed out, and you can only trim and cut for another few mm, not really worth it. You still have a lot of ground clearance whent he suspension bottoms out up front anyway.
To go up more, you have to trim the fenders on the chassis, which nobody wants, but it's necessary for full up travel. You can always make Lexan shields to keep crud out if it's a problem. The rear isn't necessary, but it might help to match the up-travel of the front.
OrcSlayer
05-03-2003, 03:17 PM
Unfortunately, I ordered front shocks that are really too long. I need the extra down travel to fit them under there. I can always adjust preload in the rear and drop it down to match the front. Someone should try to convert the front to solid axle suspension. Maybe try using those Robbe axles? I would if I had the money, heh.
SteveK
05-03-2003, 05:25 PM
The XC chassis (XC = Cross Country, the official Tamiya designation of the chassis, like TA03) isn't worth converting. The best option would be a 2WD buggy/truck tranny turned sideways with a locked differential (Or an E-Maxx tranny) and an H-type chassis with Robbe axles.
Maxxcrazy
05-03-2003, 10:06 PM
robbe axles have a different gear ratio anyway.
also down travel isnt maxed out at all. when i first got my jero I modded the C hubs and got about a 1/2in lift.
SteveK
05-03-2003, 10:32 PM
- Right: You'll have to use two Robbe axles for equal drive ratios. And by the time you bought them, you'd have to do a TON of hacking and modding to get the front drive to work, so in the end it's not even worth it. Almost be better off buying the Robbe axles and a Traxxas Stampede kit for $65: Get a motor, tranny, shocks, and 2.2" wheels and tires that would work for a not-so-scale crawler (Or a more hardcore crawler, with the cage).
- No, front down-travel isn't totally maxxed out, but it's close, and for my taste, the angles of the linkages and driveshaft are pretty severe at full extension. For crawling, maybe squeezing out some more travel heading down is OK, but for regular running, I think getting more up-travel is better.
OrcSlayer
05-03-2003, 11:38 PM
I really only brought up the idea of using a Robbe axle because I thought it would be easier to fit long shocks under the front with a solid axle. I would just get the 4x4 rolling chassis hua sells if I really wanted to do something like that. I give up now. I can't figure out how people put 4" shocks in the rear and end up with a truck that sits equally tall front and back. Should I trim my hub carriers and add spacers under the suspension arm mount? My 'Jero is turning out like most other things I take apart... I'll probably never get it back together.
Maxxcrazy
05-04-2003, 12:32 PM
my body sits level becuase: I added longer screws to mount the front body mount. I also put 2 4mm locknuts on the screw and below the body mount. also I put longer screws on teh rear body mounts and put 1 5mm locknut on each screw
Doomed
05-05-2003, 04:50 PM
Hey guys, I'm still having my dogbone problem from a while ago. My LHS ordered the TL01's and they were way to short. I'm sure they ordered the wrong part. Can anyone give me a part number for the one they have used, not the Pajero ones because I can't seem to get those either. Any help would be great, as I havn't driven the Pajero for about a month!
Dana
Doomed
05-06-2003, 04:01 PM
ahh come on... I'm beggin' !
Maxxcrazy
05-06-2003, 09:53 PM
try Ta02 driveshafts. Hummers are based on Ta02's and aluminum hummer arms fir a pajero with little mod. just A guess but it might work and its an educated guess ;)
Doomed
05-07-2003, 09:24 AM
Thanks Maxx, looks like its time for a little trial and error!
Doomed
05-07-2003, 11:19 PM
Thanks to everyone who helped me out with my dogbone problem. After being talked down to like a small child over at RC*T, I have painfully extracted the correct information. Maybe.
Part# 53305 "Tamiya Lightweight Drive Shaft TA03" should fit as the proper replacement for the front bones on our trucks. Wow, that was a wild ride!
Dana
one_mean_rc10gt
05-09-2003, 01:27 AM
That guy is a dick over there at R*MT!! Most people are cool over there, but him!!
Doomed
05-09-2003, 01:38 PM
I kind of got that impression too, but oh well. I know most people over there hang out here too but I found these on ebay and thought they might work also...
They are listed to fit a "58132 Mitsubishi Pajero", might be better because their steel.
Doomed
05-09-2003, 01:42 PM
Heres the pic, can't see the part #.
Maxxcrazy
05-14-2003, 07:59 PM
someone needs to post pics to get this forum running again...
Doomed
05-15-2003, 05:16 PM
Hey Maxxcrazy,
Did you ever do the BB steering mod?
Maxxcrazy
05-15-2003, 09:34 PM
No. There a company in germany(?) that makes aluminum steering posts and bellcranks for the pajero. I'm waiting for Hua from www.rc4wd.com to get them in. He also offers a complete bearing kit for the pajero.
Doomed
05-16-2003, 09:01 AM
Ya, I saw the company, it's hard to order in German! Hopefully Hua makes one or imports it soon. My steering is slowing down.
tervis
05-18-2003, 07:15 PM
how hard are bearing to put in and waht are some other easy performance or appereance hop ups?? thanks
Maxxcrazy
05-20-2003, 08:30 PM
If you want to go faster, get a 20T 48P pinion gear. Also www.rc4wd.com offers a bearing kit and a sweet looking beadlock wheel. On the beadlocks, you will need to use 2.2 tires. They help crawling preformance alot. Also make sure the 2.2 tire is around 4in in diameter so it will kit. Besides the beadlocks, there arent any real costmetic upgrades. You can always make some rear links or make a grill guard like i did (scroll up for pics).
Doomed
05-25-2003, 12:48 AM
My new bones are bent! But have not broke! Front and rears locked as you may have guessed. :D
Maxxcrazy
05-25-2003, 11:09 AM
lol, You can still use those though. Did it happen to both or just that one? Also, what are you doing to bend those? I havent bent any and im runing both locked diffs
Doomed
05-25-2003, 05:32 PM
Yep, both look like that! And yes there back in the truck. I just got those Dirt Hawg 3's, very sticky, I was pulling wheelies on the cement, stock motor. Ran on the cement for a total of 2-3 mins. I usally do crawling exclusively, no cement. Crazy.
tervis
05-27-2003, 08:34 PM
when i turn the wheel all the way the bone comes out of the thing it goes into on the outside of the front a-arm and i dont know what to do. it is still new enough that maybe tamiya will take it back or something ifi cant fix it
Maxxcrazy
05-27-2003, 09:22 PM
Check to see if any of your front suspension parts are broken Also see if you have too much toe in or out.
XxDRIVERxX6
05-27-2003, 09:57 PM
Well heres mine since i got some new tires and cleaned it!
front side
http://www.******.net/view_single.php?medid=3462
back side
http://www.******.net/view_single.php?medid=3461
I have yet to put my Brush guard (like maxxcrazys) on.. To lazy i guess and im waiting for a spur gear from australia :/
Later, Shawn
Doomed
05-28-2003, 09:13 AM
Originally posted by tervis
when i turn the wheel all the way the bone comes out of the thing it goes into on the outside of the front a-arm and i dont know what to do. it is still new enough that maybe tamiya will take it back or something ifi cant fix it
Might want to check and see if everything is screwed in nice and snug also.
XxDRIVERxX6- looks good!
Janders
05-28-2003, 01:14 PM
Do you have a closeup pic of the dogbone, with the wheel turned? Have you shaved any material off, or are oyu using longer than stock shocks?
tervis
05-28-2003, 03:14 PM
i have no camera and i shaved sum plastic off the side of the plastic casing that holds the metal becasue it was scraped and all of the parts are stock i am gonna go check to see if everything is in nice and tight and everything thanks
tervis
05-28-2003, 04:03 PM
i tightened the top arm where it meets the chassis thanks i am still a "newb"
Doomed
06-09-2003, 01:54 AM
New shoes!
Doomed
06-09-2003, 01:55 AM
#2
Doomed
06-09-2003, 01:57 AM
#3
crono man
06-09-2003, 06:23 PM
hey guys im starting to really like these!!
one question tho..
can i lock the diff with the RTR xb pajero or do i have to buy extra parts from tamiya?
Doomed
06-09-2003, 08:34 PM
You need the "G" parts bag from the XC. (Well you need two of them if you want to lock the front and back.) Which the XB does not come with. You can also use JB Weld or hot glue.
This is from R_C_M_T...
"How do I lock my differential?
Either clean it up and pour it full of JB Weld (or similar product), or use the parts from the G parts bag (someone else can enlighten us on
this.) [ColinDoyle]
You can also lock your differential by cleaning it up and getting a soldering gun and solder and filling up your differential like that and if you want to unlock it all you hae to do is hit the solder with a screw driver and it will come off. [rcboy67]
Differentials can be locked with hot glue too
and it can be removed.[Zman38]"
crono man
06-09-2003, 09:42 PM
thanks doomed:)
one more question
what does the cross country torque splitter do?
Doomed
06-09-2003, 10:34 PM
As I understand it the torque splitter helps the truck rotate in a turn easier as it lets the appropriate wheel spin faster while going around a corner. This is pretty much the opposite of locking the differential. Hopefully that's clear enough as its hard for me to explain!
crono man
06-09-2003, 10:48 PM
Originally posted by Doomed
As I understand it the torque splitter helps the truck rotate in a turn easier as it lets the appropriate wheel spin faster while going around a corner. This is pretty much the opposite of locking the differential. Hopefully that's clear enough as its hard for me to explain!
so it acts like a one-way diff!!
i dont think that would be anygood for climbing:)
Doomed
06-09-2003, 11:13 PM
Yes, exactly like a one-way! I bought one way back when I first got the Pajero and its still in the package. I like to crawl!
Maxxcrazy
06-10-2003, 07:40 PM
It is a one way. You can't go in reverse with it. Either that or its just RWD when you go in reverse.
Doomed
06-20-2003, 12:08 AM
In the interest of keeping this place alive, here's a pic of my new alum knuckles.
ian48065
06-20-2003, 09:50 AM
i have a question for you guys, what is the length of the space from the axle to were those two pieces of plastic hook on to the chassis? thanks and great trucks!~iAn
Maxxcrazy
06-20-2003, 12:48 PM
nice doomed. i need to run my jero. i just need a stick pack with a tamiya connector.
ian-if the plastic you mean are the links, its 3.75in
ian48065
06-20-2003, 06:17 PM
thanks!
ian48065
06-26-2003, 08:12 PM
does the blackfoot hard body work with the mounting holes on the pajero? i saw one with one and it was pretty cool looking. One more question will the tamiya hard 350 body fit for the juggernaut on the jero? thanks a bunch! every one has great looking trucks!~iAn
SteveK
06-26-2003, 10:34 PM
I think the F350 can be mounted, it just might take some fiddling with the mounting system, and maybe extending the wheelbase a bit.
I have seen a hard-body F150 and it looked good. Parma makes several Lexan bodies that look almost as good and are lighter and easier to work with. They even have the old stepside 'Ranger' Blackfoot body, which should look really cool: It or the Chevy version would make for a great old-school Baja racer.