Kyosho ultima type R

[LokiOs]

Well the evolution model is the same model with the same parts right? It is just the "team" version. Associated and Losi sell several different versions of the same buggy and truck.

[TUCRACEMAN]

Atcually it's more like a Factory Team model in AE terms. In losi terms you have to put some ugly dude's name on it. It has graphite and all the goodies.
~Dave

[Fast68]

:confused: So, since Tower discontinued this model, do you think they will carry the upgrade parts?

[TUCRACEMAN]

Psh. I hope so.

[LokiOs]

Ok heres a quick question. I have the Ultima ST sype R, are the rear hub carriers the same as those that come on the ready to run version?

[Hypocrisy]

here`s my Ultima, i liked building it, just like building a B3, used the manual to the shocks.. the rest of the car was was built without the manual..
impressive car, the sloop in the front suspension was bad...but easy to fix..

Here`s some pics

[Hypocrisy]

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[Hypocrisy]

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[xb3Guy]

i now tower carring the new graphite parts for the ultimas i plan on getting some of them

[bad viking]

Hi.
My little brother needs a slipperclutch 4 his Ultima st ep sports.
After we upgraded it with a LRP ESC and a LRP 17 turn motor
it has burned the two geears after the diff. AHA!!! He needs a slipper I thought! But it is not written any partnumbers 4 a slipper in his manual. So I thought that the parts on the Ultima ep R might fit. Do you know?? Can u give me some partnumbers.

Bad Viking

[TUCRACEMAN]

They should fit. In addition, the old style slipper for the RC-10 will fit also. For some reason, I can't find a part number. I"ll keep looking.

[jonski]

check out my "new" Kyosho EP Ultima Type R for sale

Thanks
Jon

[RichieRich]

Ah! I thought this thread fell off the face of the earth. Does anyone have any info on the Ultima RB Evo?

[Fast68]

I got an RB sitting on my shelf, and I was planning on racing it, how will it keep up with the B4 and the others, what upgrades can I add to make it competitive.
Joe:confused:

[RichieRich]

I think it will keep up with a B3. A B4 may be a different story.

I would upgrade the bearings. I think the stock bearings are a bit cheap. I would add titanium turnbuckles too.

[Fast68]

:confused: , Well, in my opinion, I don't see where the turnbuckles has an advantage other than their microscopic weight diffrence, I believe that it comes down to the driver, I think shocks and proper setup and tires, driver ability determines who gets in the front (Flame Suite UP:D ), in the stock class. I'm yet to try my 17 and 13 turn motors to see how it blazes, any gear recomendations?
Joe

[RichieRich]

Well, yeah, I agree. The reason I suggest replacing the turnbuckles is because I believe that the stock ones don't thread in far enough into the ball cups. So, they seem a little vunerable to me. I replaced mine with turnbuckles that are a little longer and made of titanium. As for gearing, I use the gearing chart from the B3 instruction book as a starting point. It's a little off, but it's close enough.

[Fast68]

Sweet, these buggies look so much alike it's hard to tell one from the other, and some parts interchange, uuhmm, I think I'll get a new body and paint it with no Kyosho markings, maybe it will pass for one of the higher end cars:confused:
Joe:cool:

[Domination]

anyone know where to get the outer crankshaft bearing for the gx15 engine out of the ST model

[TUCRACEMAN]

thread CPR! Quick!

[chadori rc'er]

hey all
i plan on getting a ultima buggy but i don't know which one to get. what is the difference between the ultima type R or the ultima RB sports. could you please tell me which one is better and how much more better is it.

thanx for any help
:D

[RichieRich]

chadori rc'er - I would get the Ultima RB Type R. They have been discontinued though. You may still be able to find them if you look hard enough.

The sport version is basically the same car but it does not have bearings, universal shafts or bearings. Plus it has a really ugly body, different wheels and plastic shocks.

[chadori rc'er]

what is the price difference between the 2 buggys, because i am on a tight budget.
thanx:cool: :cool:

[Fast68]

Chadori rc-er, if your intereted in one, I could sell you mine, it has been used only once at the local track, I lost interest in rc cars, I could put together a package deal, if you interest email me @
fast68@earthlink.net.
Joe:cool:

[chadori rc'er]

sorry fast68 but i am sort of choosing between a few buggys at the moment but thanxs anyway.;)

[aramis]

This is my TypeR.

[RichieRich]

Very nice aramis. I just took some new pictures of my collection. I have a better picture of my Ultima RB which I will post once I do a little cropping. :D

[Lazerfan1]

Hey everybody this is a Ken and I just bought an Ultima RB Type R from Faster68 and he shipped the car out this tuesday and I just rrecieved it at noon on thursday. He is a really great guy to buy stuff from!!!!!! I just wanted to say thanks again Faster68. Also he has a Novak Dually speed controll left to sell in case anybody needs to get one. He is a man of hes word when he sells you something!!!!!!! Later from Ken....

[Lazerfan1]

OOPS I ment Fast68 not Faster68!!

[Fast68]

Thanks for the note Ken, But I think there is a Trader Information Forum where you can leave a feedback.
Joe:cool:

[bpcrally]

anyone know what kind of car this is?
http://server6.uploadit.org/files/bpcrally-overcar.jpg :confused:

[RichieRich]

uh...not an Ultima obviously.

[aramis]

No I am pretty sure its not an Ultima.I think it is a Kyosho Spyder?!!Look forward to seeing your Ultima Rich.Later,Jeff

[RichieRich]

Okay, here's a newer picture of my Ultima. It has Lunsford turnbuckles and ball bearing steering.

http://rgrodriguez.home.mindspring.com/utlimarbtyper.jpg

[aramis]

Nice Ultima Rich.Our paint jobs are very similar.If I had to guess,I would say Blue Streak and Sprint White!!I think these two colors look great together.Most of my race cars end up with that on them.I checked out your showroom,very nice.I am still working on mine.Give me a shout if you are looking for anything.Later,Jeff

[aramis]

One more thing on the Type R.Do they have the best shocks ever made or what?!Kyosho has always made GREAT shocks,but they outdid themselves with the Twin Cap design.It is a shame Kyosho does not seem to get the credit for their engineering that they deserve.One thing that seems to hurt them now,is the fact they are always a year or so behind AE and Losi for some reason.The Type R buggy and gas truck were great cars.I am posting a pic of my Type R gas truck.I really liked it,but no shops around here support it with parts.This year I am running a Losi Drake Edition.It was my first Losi after almost 20 years in RC.I have been a loyal AE and Kyosho racer,but the Drake truck is very nice.Sorry for the ramble,Jeff

[RichieRich]

Originally posted by aramis
Nice Ultima Rich.Our paint jobs are very similar.If I had to guess,I would say Blue Streak and Sprint White!!I think these two colors look great together.Most of my race cars end up with that on them.I checked out your showroom,very nice.I am still working on mine.Give me a shout if you are looking for anything.Later,Jeff

Actually, I think it's pearl blue. :D I have more cars to add to the showroom. I just haven't gotten around to doing it. I'm not looking for much right now. I think for my Turbo Optima, I need a body and a LeMans 240S motor.

By the way, the shocks on the Ultima RB are excellent. I would say that they probably are the best shocks out there. My favorite brand is AE, so I love the RC10 series. The reason I got the Ultima RB is because my Turbo Ultima was my first "full-option" buggy. So, I thought it would be interesting to see how far the Kyosho buggies have come.

[TUCRACEMAN]

I have no doubts that the TC-Pro shocks are the best out there. On the track , the car runs like a dream. I would always have problems with my B3 staying level when going over jumps. This was never a problem with the RB. I used to take it out and run with a Tekin G-12CIII and a B&R Sportsmen Mod and just blow everything else away.
~Dave

[aramis]

Dave,I still run G12CIIIs in all of my electric stuff.One of the best speedos ever.If you check the specs,they are still up there with the newest of today.Later,Jeff

[TUCRACEMAN]

Ugh, lucky guy to be able to have multiple G12CIIIs. I used to have a G12 but I fried it with an encounter with a puddle. :( I'm thinking now that I'll be taking the Tekin out of the Ultima and placing it in the Pro-X and then replacing it with a middle of the road LRP. Heck, I can't sleep, it's late...I might as well rebuild the darn thing. I think I'll have to order up some graphite for the car. Is there anyway to install CVDs in the Ultima?
~Dave

[RichieRich]

Dave - Tekin is making a comeback apparently. Oh, there probably is a way to install CVD's in an Ultima. You'd probably have to put RC10 B3 or B4 rear hubs on the Ultima or something. Then some different bearings and an RC10 CVD set. I wonder how well that would work?

[TUCRACEMAN]

Hmmmmmmmm, ideas ideas.
~Dave

[silakka]

hey all :)

i just bought Ultima RB EP, and i was wondering what could be the "best" engine for this vehicle?

And what that EP stands for?

[Lazerfan1]

Hey there the EP Stands for Electric power! I have to ask did you get this kit from e-bay? Well as for the motor it all depends on your electronics that you have and if you are going to race or not? Also depending on the lowest wind your speed controll will allow without blowing it! SO if this is your first car I would recomend that you start out witha stock motor such as the Monster stock Junior and that will get you up and running ok! This will bne a good starting point until you figure out your driving skill and your electronics capabilities! Hope that this helped you out this is a really great car and good luck!!! :D

[silakka]

Hey there the EP Stands for Electric power! I have to ask did you get this kit from e-bay? Well as for the motor it all depends on your electronics that you have and if you are going to race or not? Also depending on the lowest wind your speed controll will allow without blowing it! SO if this is your first car I would recomend that you start out witha stock motor such as the Monster stock Junior and that will get you up and running ok! This will bne a good starting point until you figure out your driving skill and your electronics capabilities! Hope that this helped you out this is a really great car and good luck!!! :D


hey :)

i didnt get the kit from e-bay, i got it from store. i have kyosho stock motor (high speed) and i just want to upgrade it to something better so it could go faster. I have to buy also electronic speed controller and ball bearing set.

I dont need the best motor there is, just better than the stock motor.

Its shame that i dont have any friends to race with (they think that this hobby is for kids, well)

[RichieRich]

Do you have the Ultima RB with the mechanical speed control? If so, you probably want to stay with a stock motor. MSCs can't handle a lot of amps so they tend to break down easier. If you have an ESC, I would try something like a 17 turn speedworks. Those are good for cheap speed.

[silakka]

Do you have the Ultima RB with the mechanical speed control? If so, you probably want to stay with a stock motor. MSCs can't handle a lot of amps so they tend to break down easier. If you have an ESC, I would try something like a 17 turn speedworks. Those are good for cheap speed.


yeah its mechanical! hmm.. damn.. even if i buy new speed controller ..?

[silakka]

yeah its mechanical! hmm.. damn.. even if i buy new speed controller ..?

lol.. :) sorry, i didnt first get what MSC and ESC means.. now i know :)

hey, i want to know also that how good is the stock motor compared to 17 turn version.

[Supra66]

Can someone help me on the end to end length on the Kyosho twin cap pro shocks? I know Kyosho has 3 version, short, medium, and long. But I kind of looking for 3" and 4" for some of my projects.
Richie, do you have the short in the front and medium on the back on your ultima? By the way, are they smooth compare to shocks like losi or hpi?

Thanks.

[RichieRich]

Supra66 - I'm not totally sure but I think the shocks are the short version up front and the long version out back. I'll measure them if needed when I get home from work. I think the twin cap shocks are some of the smoothest shocks ever. I would rank them just slightly above Team Associated shocks. I've never used Losi's shocks so I can't compare them. HPIs shocks are very nice too.

[phuzaxeman]

Here's my ultima web page:

http://phuzaxeman777.tripod.com/kyoshoulltimateultimawebsite.htm


Check more for details on the NEW web page (minus pop ups) coming up for all ultima fans....


let me know what ya'll think...

[NWDave]

I'm selling a used Ultima Type R ST electric truck I got in a trade, don't need it myself. I has bearings, universals, and the Twin Cap shocks. No body or electrics, just the truck itslef with new rear wheels and tires. Wanting to get $80 shipped out of it. Offers or trades welcome.

[RichieRich]

phuzaxeman - Nice website. If you want, you can pull the pics from my Tamiyaclub page. The address is on my profile. I have three Ultimas: An Ultima RB Type R, Turbo Ultima and an Ultima Pro XL.

[kyoshoisbest]

Will the battery strap from the type r fit into my st sports version?

[Myrddin]

I can never get the ESC to work properly with my Ultima RB. It's one of the most frustrating things ever. Can someone recommend a good, simple ESC that comes with n00b-proof instructions? I really want to get my buggy out of the closet, but at this point I'm sure I need new tires/rims and other stuff that needs to be replaced when a buggy sits in the closet for a year.

I need a mentor . . . . like a Big Brother mentor program for RC imbeciles like me, I'm 31 and I can't get a simply buggy to work properly for over 5 minutes at a time.

[RichieRich]

Myrddin - Hey! I'm 31 too, so I can't be your big brother. Maybe a twin or something. :) Anyways, I use a simple Novak Explorer II in my Ultima. It has one button and really no bells and whistles. Just a simple ESC. Plus, they're only about $50. Also, I'm know RC10 b3 wheels/tires will fit the Ultima. Not sure about the new rc10 B4 stuff. Worse case, you'll have to reuse your Ultima rims but you'll have no problem getting replacement tires.

[kylelucas]

Just found my pictures of my Type R after it's Maiden Run a couple years back, so I fugured they belonged here for history's sake.

[kylelucas]

One More..... Still runs like a rocket today, still Love It.

[RichieRich]

Cool. Nice paint. :D

[bpkeen]

Hey all, not a newbie here, just lost my usr name and pword. I have an RB Type R and just returned from Iraq. Took it out for a spin and forgot a year ago I thrashed the LH Outdrive diff. Part # UM-116. I am having a tough time finding out where I can buy this, if anyone knows please email me at bpkeen@hotmail.com I would greatly appreciate it. I need this quick too, my son is coming to visit me and he's bringing his Ultima.
Thanks,
Billy

[kylelucas]

First - Welcome Home.... Thanks for your service..

Second - Swing by your LHS and bring your buggy. - They might be able to get you one from Kyosho and/or fit another brand to fix her up. I too have seen that all Kyosho RB parts have dried up.

Good luck and I hope you get her fixxed up for some bashing with your boy.

[bpkeen]

Thanks, its good to be home. I will do that, I found that the RC10B3 has interchangeable parts with the RB but they weren't available either. Thanks for the idea.

[RichieRich]

About the only place you'll find this part is at Towerhobbies. I believe this is an Ultima specific part and no other buggy uses this diff outdrive.

*edit - it appears to be discontinued according to tower's website. Ooops, should have checked first.

[TUCRACEMAN]

Look like I'll have to keep my Ultima in showroom condition.
~D

[FranktheTank]

Tower "discontinued" almost all their Kyosho stuff.....your best bet is to try Kyosho America. Last I checked, they were still getting their inventory sorted out......

[nixaad]

Anyone knows what gearing to use for 23T? Also, wot springs suits the ST? I'm all ears.

btw, checkout my pic

[kylelucas]

Does anyone know of where I can find an ULTIMA ST TYPE R Assembly Manual online? Mine got destroyed by water and I need to build my kit. I suppose I can use my RB Type R manual as a general guideline, since they are virtually identical (except for arms etc).

Any help is appreciated.

[Lazerfan1]

Hey I still have my manual for both my truck and my car if you e-mail me your name and address To Rcgeico@aol.com then I would be willing to make a copy of ither manual that you may need and then I will mail it to you so that you can complete your kit!

[Galager]

Does anyone know if the Ultima shocks will fit the old Optima?

[Ultima Pro XL]

Does anyone know if the Ultima shocks will fit the old Optima?
I think they will. I have some last generation Ultima shocks on my Ultima Pro Xl and they fit perfectly.

[nixaad]

uuhmm.. anyone knows gearing for 23Turn motors on a medium sized track? it seems the stock gearing of 86Spur 18pinion makes my motor hot after a run. Also, anyone has any idea of other brand springs that fits the shocks?


cheers!

[RichieRich]

I think the stock gear was 82 teeth. I think you are seriously undergeared with those ratios.

[nixaad]

I think the stock gear was 82 teeth. I think you are seriously undergeared with those ratios.


I think so too richie, final drive was like 11.++ :x. As I have only 23Turn motor at the moment. Funny, why kyosho gave gearings like that? They expect peeps to have lower turn motors?

[kydawg1]

....Is there anyone out there still running these great Ultima Type R RB and ST vehicles? I still Love mine, and still run it at the track on weekends for practice. Still rocks on the track even with all the great new models out there.

Does anyone have and new kits thay want to sell? I am looking for STs more, but also the RB. Type R's and Type R EVO only.

I have a New Type R ST I ready to build up and get her out there for some racing. I cannot wait......

Looks like I need to get a RB5 and of couse there will be a a ST5 coming.

[hardrider]

Trying to restore an Ultima Type R.
I'm not sure if what I have is the Type R or Type R Evo.
What are the differences if any?
How do I tell what I've got?

Online part numbers are slightly different.

[Lazerfan1]

Hey guys it has been a long time since I have been back to this forum and I'm currently stationed here in Iraq! I Love these cars for I have 3 Ultima RB Type R Buggies and they are just sitting on a shelf waiting for me to get home and run them. But I wont be home until mid april. I might be willing to part with one if you need parts to build yoour back up! Give me a chat at Rcgeico@aol.com if your interested in waiting that long until I get home! I also have a Ultima St Type R that is been a long project since I bought it in 1999 and I have had a guy make Custom Alumin Suspension arms for it after my Graphite ones broke and it is still competive! I also Have 2 Lazers 1 made from Titamium and another one that I picked up from a team drive that used it in the 1991 world in Austraulia! Balistically fast with a Novak Cyclone and an 11turn single V2 orion motor and a Fusion 3300 battery! Just in case you need parts for anything else!
Ken is my name!

[hardrider]

Can some kind soul enlighten on the difference between the
Ultima RB Type R and Ultima RB Type R Evolution?
Are there any compatible parts with the RB5?

[kydawg1]

Pull the manuals from here and take a look. The Evo has some other hop ups and uses Blue Anodized alloy parts.

http://kyosho.com/eng/support/instructionmanual/buggy/buggy_index.html