1/12th scale thread

[FrankW]

Ah ha... we need a new 12th scale thread. Post your pics if you got em! What are ya running? So far I got a CRC Carpet Knife V3.1 (awesome huh?), an Associated 12L3 and a bolink 12th scale car. I'll post pics later. I've also owned a 12L (graphite chassis) and a SB12 Spachett Edition (never ran it though). And if you got any tips/stories/set-ups, post 'em.

-Frank Williams

[Skribble]

How fast does your L3 go? :confused:

[FrankW]

Depends on the motor and batts... But I really don't know yet... got to set it up to drive. The Carpet Knife is super fast on 4 cells and a 10 turn.

-Frank

[Grizzbob]

Man, I wish I had a carpet track big enough to run a 10 turn in my 12L3. At my track, a 14 is about as hot as you can go without overdoing it(there just isn't room to take advantage of the extra top end of a hotter motor). but even with my 14 turn Reedy Ti, that little car really rips.....:)

[FrankW]

LOL, I run on the street... I need to find a close track to race at.

-Frank

[baileym]

We run 17 turn 6 cell spec. I am running the only Associated, and everyone else runs a Corally. I have the 12L3. Only mods are Trinity aluminum servo mounts, custom foam bumper, and velcro battery straps. I am running a speed gems saphire(17 X 1) right now. I plan to give the new amethyst(17 X 2) a try also.

My basic setup is

front .16 springs, .5 degrees camber, 1 degree toe-out

rear green spring, thick T-bar(.075) I run the small travel limiter on the rear post.

If you would like to run a foam bumper on yours, they are really simple to make. I start with a Traxxas touring car bumper, and cut it so that it is only half as thick. Then just sand it to fit under the body.

[FrankW]

These are some 12th scale bodies I painted.

<b><center>LOLA<br>
<img src="http://www.atlasstrength.com/Lola.JPG"><p>
Nissan GTP<br>
<img src="http://www.atlasstrength.com/NissanGTP.JPG"><p>
Toyota GT1<br>
<img src="http://www.atlasstrength.com/ToyotaGT1.JPG"><p>
Porshe 962<br>
<img src="http://www.atlasstrength.com/Porche962.JPG"><p>
Diablo GTP #001
<img src="http://www.atlasstrength.com/Bodies/0011.jpg"><p>
T-bird #004
<img src="http://www.atlasstrength.com/Bodies/0041.jpg"><p>
Diablo GTP #000
<img src="http://www.atlasstrength.com/Bodies/Diablo.jpg"><p>
</center></b>

LOL, there's some pics :D

-Frank Williams

[MICRORACING]

---To anyone with info.-

I just purchased and assembled the RC12L and I love it. I have been in this hobby for a while but this is the first of the twelve scales. I am wondering where 1/12th scale racing is held in Los Angeles or anywhere near there. If anyone has any info please pass it on. Also if your in Los Angeles, I can actually set up a track in the local park and hold races. So if anyone is interested let me know.
thnx

MICRORACING@aol.com

[FrankW]

Hey, PM me... I'll be coming out with some more realistic 12th scale bodies soon. Maybe we can work out a deal for your club.

-Frank

[Linkin Park fan]

its nice to find some people that drive corally....im getting the sp12m soon and putt'n in a P-94 and Trinity Panosanic cells(4) great car i have heard

Zared~~~~~~~:cool: ~~~~~~~~~~~~

[Cosmo]

Here's the only 1/12 scale I've painted so far, which is strange because I own 4 1/12 cars.... A 12L3, a 12Lw with the 3 shock rear end, a Carpet Knife, and a CRC oval car (I'm not sure what it's called). I have been accumulating 1/12 cars for the past few months. A new track opened up in our area, and I'm getting ready to get back into it after being out of it for 10 years (my last car was a RC12i).

http://www.cosmo-graphics.com/images/norris12.jpg

[rc10gt_bb]

Wow man, thats awsome.

[TC3 Benjammin]

I'm selling my TC3 cause it's too slow. I want to get either a 1/10th or 1/12th pan car. I have a few questions before I buy one.

What's the main difference in running 6 cells vs. 4 cells? I'm assuming that 4 cells give longer run time, but 6 cells offers more voltage to the motor, thus increasing speed. Is this correct?

I won't be racing competitively, although we have an oval/touring track near me. I will do most of my running in front of my house and in parking lots. Keeping this in mind, would the 1/10 or 1/12 be better for me?

The only spare motor I have is a 10 turn. Will this be too wild? Keep in mind I've been in this hobby for 15+ years. I hope the answer is yes (hehe). I want it to be ballistic, but controllable.

FrankW, I'll definitely be interested in some of your 1/12 bodies if I go the 1/12 route. You're molding non-wedge style bodies, right? All I've seen available at hobby shops is wedges.

Thanks for any input.:)

[FrankW]

Go 12th, why? Because I like them... because they are fast... because they are compact... and because they are just so darn cool.

If you're using the 10T, go 4 cells... 6 cells will be way to wild for a 12th on a regular street... although you could use a 6 cell pack in a huge parking lot if you accelerate smoothly.

And yes, I will be creating 12th scale bodies here soon. The first will be a Saleen S7R (because of it's simplicity as it'll be my first)... then I hope to be doing an Audi R8... unless I can find a good dicast model of the Audi R8 to model off of.

-Frank

[TC3 Benjammin]

Thanks Frankie.

I got my eye on the AE 12L3 and the CRC Carpet Knife. Which one do you recommend for a first-timer in 12th scale?

[sofast]

Can somebody help me find a website that sell's trinity switch blade 12 parts? I can not find one anywere.:(
Frank, i sent you a pm asking the same question.

[Cosmo]

www.towerhobbies.com used to have them
www.dillonracing.com - they have parts for pretty much all pan cars. You may need to call them though. They don't update their site very often.

[FrankW]

Originally posted by TC3 Benjammin
I got my eye on the AE 12L3 and the CRC Carpet Knife. Which one do you recommend for a first-timer in 12th scale?

They are both very competant vehicals... The 12L3 however can hold 6 cells but has a T-plate (can be good or bad). The CRC Carpet Knife can only use 4 cells, and has no T-plate. Becasue the CRC car has the batteries lines closer into the center of the chassis, it can transision from turn to turn quicker than the L3. However, because it can only hold 4 cells, you will have to accept that you can only run 4 cells... while with the L3, the CRC Six-pack (mix between 12L3 and Trinity Switch Blade), the older Trinity Switch blades (not the 2002 model), and the Corraly vehical can all hold either 4 cell packs or 6 cell packs. Now, the new Switchblade can only hold 4 cells (but still uses a T-plate). Because of this; and the more powerful batteries and motors that're coming out, I believe that we will start to see a recesion of 6 cell 12th scale racing. So, if you were going to plan on racing, I would recommend the Carpet Knife. But for fun-running, either one is great. However, CRC is having a sale, and the Carpet Knife is $20 cheaper then the 12L3 (if that makes a difference). Both cars are quick to build, and quick on the street. But if I were to chooose between my CRC or my L3... I'd choose my Knife.

-Frank

[FrankW]

Originally posted by sofast
Can somebody help me find a website that sell's trinity switch blade 12 parts? I can not find one anywere.:(
Frank, i sent you a pm asking the same question.

I'm sorry, I wouldn't know... I would've though Tower would have them, but it looks like they don't. Odd...

-Frank

[FrankW]

Found 'em! They are jumbled with all the other car parts... but they are there... Car Parts start at the bottom of the page (http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/WTI0098p.pgm?P=N&F=TRIC1985&L=TRIC7726&S1=&S2=&S3=&S4=&C=CLCTRI&V=TRI&I=&G=&U=Y)


-Frank

[RS4rally1124]

a guy at my track is building me a custom 1/12 scale that is all graphite and aluminum. he was going to sell it to me for $20. Is that a good deal for a 1/12 scale that can hold 4 cells. It will have a t-plate

Thanks JT

[sofast]

Thank's, but all I see are parts for other car's.:(

[TC3 Benjammin]

Originally posted by RS4rally1124
a guy at my track is building me a custom 1/12 scale that is all graphite and aluminum. he was going to sell it to me for $20. Is that a good deal for a 1/12 scale that can hold 4 cells. It will have a t-plate

Thanks JT

Ummm, yes. I'm about to buy a new one for around $120. Pay the man and run!:D

Thanks Frankie. I'm still deciding between a 10L3 and the 12L3. I'll let you know when I make the decision (my TC3 is on Ebay right now and the auction has not ended yet). You are a big help! You need to come down to FL and race with us some time.;)

[FrankW]

Originally posted by sofast
Thank's, but all I see are parts for other car's.:(

Keep pressing on the "next page" button and you'll see some Switchblade parts... they are scattered thoughout the car parts section.

RS4rally1124: You gotta take a picture of the car for me. $20 is a great deal... well as long as the car works. I'd be slightly wary of the quality of it... and ask him if he has a Mechanical Engineering degree from an accredited university. Although, $20 is petty cash (to me anyways).

TC3 Benjammin: I have a 12L3 in very good condition if you're interested.

-Frank

[sofast]

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p.pgm?Q=1&I=LXJY89&P=7

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p.pgm?Q=1&I=LXBNK7&P=7

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p.pgm?Q=1&I=LXBNK6&P=7

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p.pgm?Q=1&I=LXJX39&P=7

These were the only ones I saw. Do you know what the thin chassis is, or the sb12 conversion??

[sofast]

I GOT IT. Let's see what will happen to my switch blade (in process of sending money for it) when I put a P-94 8t quad split motor in it, running 6 cells.:D :D :p I might try it, after I learn to drive it VERY VERY GOOD. lol so how fast do you think it will go?? Im betting VERY fast.

Maybe i should find a place to buy part's at before doing it. hehe

[rc10gt_bb]

is the carpet knive a good outdoor car also?

[FrankW]

Originally posted by sofast
I GOT IT. Let's see what will happen to my switch blade (in process of sending money for it) when I put a P-94 8t quad split motor in it, running 6 cells.:D :D :p I might try it, after I learn to drive it VERY VERY GOOD. lol so how fast do you think it will go?? Im betting VERY fast.

Maybe i should find a place to buy part's at before doing it. hehe

I'm I'm betting if you geared it right (and piloted it well, with a long run way), you could get speeds of 70 easily.


rc10gt_bb: Yes, yes it is... I like it anyways.

-Frank

[sofast]

Really? Man im gonna have to try that. I thought it would go like 60. Let's see..... i have two road's around here easily 5 mi long. Driving from the inside of a friends car... hehe Im gonna do it, just for the heck of it.:D :p

[FrankW]

LOL... sounds fun... but you might wanna put a vertical stabilizer on the body, to keep the car strait.

-Frank

[sofast]

How big do you think it should be?

[FrankW]

Start it at the top of the front windshield and just sweep it's leading edge in a gental curve up and all the way to the back.

-Frank

[sofast]

How tall? I am really wanting to do this, but dont want to crash at 70mph. Man i cant wait to get the car:)

[FrankW]

Oh, about one half inche above the rear wing/wedge should be perfect (but watch out for cross winds :p ).

-Frank

[sofast]

LOL:p Thank's, do you know what the sb12 conversion kit is??

[sofast]

LOL:D :rolleyes: Thank's, do you know what the sb12 conversion kit is??

[FrankW]

No, no I don't... I don't deal with SBs, not good parts support.

-Frank

[sofast]

Obviously Thank's anyway.

[FrankW]

Sorry I couldn't help.

-Frank

[TC3 Benjammin]

Originally posted by FrankW
TC3 Benjammin: I have a 12L3 in very good condition if you're interested.

-Frank

Dude, I sent you a pm about this. Did you not get it?

[FrankW]

I didn't recieve a pm from you...

-Frank

[Skribble]

FrankW, will the CRC Team Red Edition run as good as the Six Pack Edition if it ran on four cells? And is it true there going to change the 1/12th mod to only allow 4-cells?

[FrankW]

You mean the "bloody knife" right? Probebly better because it can transfer from turn to turn better.

There is no 6 cell mod racing for 12ths that I know of, and they may be changing stock over to 4 cells as well... This is shown by the fact that the SB 2002 is now a 4 cell only machine. So, while I'm not sure, I wouldn't be surprised if all 12th scale racing was going the 4 cell route in the near future.

-Frank

[Skribble]

I mean, will a 6-cell Bloody Knife running only 4-cells be good as a 4-Cell Bloody Knife?

[FrankW]

There is no 6 cell Bloody Knife.... it's called the "6-pack". The Team Red version of the <b>Carpet Knife</b> is known as the "Bloody Knife". The Bloody Knife will out perform the 6-pack (with it set up on 4 cells), because it can transfer through corners better.

-Frank

[MICRORACING]

ATTENTION 1/12TH SCALE RACER'S IN Los Angeles


-If anyone is interested please e-mail me, I am able, through West Hollywood Park to set up a temperary track on there basketball courts, I just need to tell them the date. If your in L.A and you Run 1/12 Lets rock.

- A.C is accesible
-computer lap counting will be used
-If there is a good turnout, it can be done frequently.

E-MAIL- MICRORACING@aol.com

CONTACT: John Hobin, 310)238-1757

[Skribble]

FrankW, is the Bloody Knife worth the $100 over the Carpet Knife? What's the major differences?

[FrankW]

Not in my book... It's basically a V3.1 with a lot of red anodizing... Unless you're willing to spend the extra cash for the red color, i'd suggest the V3.1... it's the same car, but not bloody.

-Frank

[Skribble]

Ok. Well, I'm gonna save up my lunch money and get the Carpet Knife next month then. Got $100 right now. :D :D :D

[whitetigeraz]

hi frank
can you tell me if a 12L3 can be converted to a tri shock car. i race a 10L3 at my localtrack and its fast but i want to go fast on a road course. seems to me a tri shock car would be more stable therefore faster

[whitetigeraz]

anyone out there know of any articles on 12 scale cars. i think i remember seeing an atricle in car action but cant remember the subscription month or year..... if anyone has any information on it .. it would be appreiciated.....

[FrankW]

Originally posted by whitetigeraz
hi frank
can you tell me if a 12L3 can be converted to a tri shock car. i race a 10L3 at my localtrack and its fast but i want to go fast on a road course. seems to me a tri shock car would be more stable therefore faster

There is a conversion (somewhere) to replace the dampner-plates with 2 dampner-tube like on the SB12... Then I suppose you could change the dampners with true shocks. But to be truthful, it might just be better to keep the 12L3 as it is... it'll be lighter, and therefor faster. You also might consider getting a 6-pack from CRC ( www.teamcrc.com ). It's basically a mixture of the 12L3 and the Trinity Switchblade. It has the switchblade rear dampners while keeping the associated rear pod and dynamic front suspension. But if you are looking into racing 4 cell only (a good choice since I think almost all 12th scale racing is leading this way), then i would take a good look at the CRC Carpet Knife. Because, the cells are placed in the center of the chassis (no T-plate) and it can transision from turn to turn quicker than cars with batteries placed in the traditional position.

Originally posted by whitetigeraz
anyone out there know of any articles on 12 scale cars. i think i remember seeing an atricle in car action but cant remember the subscription moth or year..... if anyone has any information on it .. it would be appreiciated.....

I believe there is... I would have to root around in my collection of RCCA mags (almost everyone since January 1995) But I'm sure there is. Maybe someone else knows offhand.

-Frank Williams

[whitetigeraz]

hi frank- can yo convert an associated 12L3 to a tri shock car. i would be really interested in that. i have a 10L3 oval that i race with but i want to go fast on a road course. seems to me a tri shock car you could get hooked up better and go faster.:)

[FrankW]

Like I said in my previous post, which was a reply to you... yes, yes you can. But it's not really nessesary. You can adjust the stock dampner plates (with grease and plate pressure) to serve the same purpose. Plus, the tri-shock method adds unnessesary weight to the car. If you want you can do it, or you can have someone else to do it... but I don't recommend it.

If you look at the RC12L3O (http://www.teamassociated.com/shusting/CatalogHub/KitSpecs,12L3O/kit12l3o.htm) then you will see that it uses a 3 micro shock system. You can find the nessessary parts, such as the upper pod plate and shocks at www.towerhobbies.com. You will aslo need the 12L3O chassis brace piece (I'm not sure what it's acually called) to attach the shocks to the chassis. But I will reiterate, it is <b>unnessessary</b>. And with onroad cars, you don't nessessarily want your car to be more stable, you want it to be able to transition from turn to turn quickly. I would not recommend converting a 12L3 to a car with a tri-shock system.

-Frank

[whitetigeraz]

sorry i didnt mean to send that one post twice. i didnt think the first one went through

whitetigeraz

[FrankW]

No problemo.

I just got a new G-10 Pro ESC, It's going on my 12th scale racing ride. So guys, when I get my Carpet Knife race ready, I'll be posting some pics, maybe with a Saleen S7R body shell if I can get them out soon (Decided to go with the Saleen first instead of the Audi). And It may even have an undertray on it... Ooo la la.

-Frank

[Skribble]

Cool. I'm gonna be using my Cyclone 2 when I get my CK, but I'm thinking of selling it and getting a Atom.

[FrankW]

Drop novak and get a LRP Quantum. :D

-Frank

[Skribble]

I was thinking of that, but I wanted to buy the GM V6 and it had the same soldering tab thing. The owner of our LHS said you had be a good soldering or something, is that true?

[FrankW]

You don't have to be good persay... just good enough. If you can solder togather battery packs and wires onto your cyclone, then you should have no problems...

-Frank

[Skribble]

I just bought a 75 Watt Weller Soldering Gun like a month ago .. I didn't solder any of my packs before because I had a 23 Watt one, and it just burnt the solder but now they off in a second. Takes me a while to put the wires back on though.

[FrankW]

Why do you use a gun? I always used an iron (pencil type). 60W.

-Frank

[Skribble]

When I went to my local Home Depot, that's the highest watt Soldering Tool they had. I would have bought the pencil type, but they only had the 23 watt one I bought previously which cost $12, while the 75 watt was $20.

[FrankW]

Ah, okay... you didn't check your LHS?

-Frank

[Skribble]

My friend bought the last 60 Watt one .. Why is the Pencil Type better than the Gun?

[FrankW]

Holds heat better... don't have to hold down a trigger... transfers heat better (more tip surface area)... lighter.

-Frank

[Skribble]

Bah .. Stupid computer locked up. What does the T-bar/Pod thing do on the 6-cell cars.

[FrankW]

Mostly, just allowyou to "tweek" the chassis, so it doesn't pull to one direction during acceleration/brake... the CK uses a different technique to do that...

-Frank

[RS4rally1124]

frank how much will the bodies be? i got my dad to let me start buying cars again but i am out of the draging mood :( now i really wat a good body for my 1/12 scale and also the thing is great. the custom one that my buddy built me for $20, i have had two guys offer me over $200 for it but i said no because i love it so much.



JT

[FrankW]

Well, because I'll can't produce like the big guys can, my bodies will have to be more expensive... so probebly in the $20 to $25 range.

Ooo, show us a picture of the chassis!!!

-Frank

[RS4rally1124]

i don't have any pics yet but i will try to get some soon. the only thing i have is a 15*4 and screwing in oval last fri and it was sweet. $25 doesn't sound bad and the mustang body should be bad a**. show me pics of it ounce it is doen. Ill get some asap (once my digital cam is fixed)




JT

[FrankW]

LOL... the Mustang body won't be out for quite a while... I can only do so much at a time.

-Frank

[RS4rally1124]

oh that is what i thought the first one would be.:confused: which one will be first, and can you make me amold or what will you use. i have access to a lot of plastics including lexan and similar miterials both lighter and more rigid(heavyer)



JT

[FrankW]

The first will be the Saleen S7R, the second will be the Audi R8, and the third will be either the Bently Speed 8 or the Cadillac Northstar. I'm sorry for any confusion.

-Frank

[Skribble]

The S7 should be awesome .. By any chance can you make a McLaren? And do you know any companises that make rubber tires for 12th Scale?

[FrankW]

LOL I <i>could</i> do a McLaren... but I already body idea's lined up. I can add it too the list though.

There are capped tires for 12th scale, but they are really only worthwhile for oval racing. I think Proline makes some.
-Frank

[Skribble]

Thanks. I just want some Rubbers for the street. Foams would get torn up.

[FrankW]

Well, capped tired don't work well for fun-running... they slide around a lot and don't hook up well (in my experiance). Foams have always worked for me with no problems with chunking or the like, and I still run the origonal Green Dots that came with my Carpet Knife, and they've lasted like 4+ months or so. And I've run this thing a lot... it's my favorite car right now.

-Frank

[Skribble]

I think I might go with a L3 .. Because my LHS only stocks Associated, Losi, Traxxas, and some Evader parts, and I know a guy that works there with two L3s so he could help me with the setups. Hm ...

[FrankW]

It's your choice. But the Carpet Knife uses mostly associated parts.

-Frank

[Skribble]

Oh. Then I probably get the cheaper one then.

[FrankW]

Sounds good. The Carpet Knife will probebly be cheaper.

-Frank

[Skribble]

So what do you think would be some good fun running tires and a good racing motor and gearing?

[FrankW]

For the CK? For fun running, the Green Dots that come in the kit work great.

As for motor's and gearing, I was going to use a 12x2 and start with a 25 tooth pinion and 100 tooth spur. About there anyways.

-Frank

[Skribble]

For asphalt they'd be okay? Our street isn't all that great in condition.

And what motor are you going to use?

[FrankW]

They should be fine... you can get harder ones if you want...

P-94 was going to be my choice.

-Frank

[Skribble]

What body is that one the main page of your Site?

[FrankW]

Paint job #000. The body is a HotBodies Diablo GTP. You like it?

-Frank

[Skribble]

Heck yeah. :D I like the dude on the hood.

[FrankW]

LOL... It's acually the eagle from the American Bodybuilding logo.

-Frank

[Skribble]

Oh .. My bad.

[FrankW]

LOL, no problemo... I had to hand paint in on the inside. But the one on the Chevy Body was airbrushed... took too long for how much it finally sold for too. Oh well.

-Frank

[RS4rally1124]

frank i tried to post it yesterday but it didn't work. My camera is broke again so no pics for a while. Also the mustang thing was my fault. My mom loves mustangs so when i hear saleen i think of the mustang my bad:p


JT

[FrankW]

LOL, it's all good, don't worry about it. I'm sure most people think of Mustangs when they hear Saleen. But yeah, I'm hoping to start knocking off a few of those here soon.

-Frank

[RS4rally1124]

Frank what motor would be sweat for all out spead. i have a huge parking lot behind my house. It is dirt dut with double purps it works fine. Thanks for the input.

oh yea my brother just got a 1/12 from the same guy as i did for less money but it has no alluminum just a few graphite parts, its fun to teach the little one drive.


JT

[Skribble]

I've seen some Saleen Expeditions too. S7 isn't my style though, but I just love the McLaren.

[FrankW]

RS4rally1124: You could stick a 9T speed gems in there... or a 6 Turn P-94, it's your choice.

Skribble: LOL, and just your luck, I couldn't find the diecast model I wanted of it (I need it to help me carve the mold... I learned quickly that pictures don't cut it)... so, It looks like my first body will be... *drum roll* The Cadillac Northstar. I hate changing my plans so much... but they didn't have the Audi R8 either.

-Frank

[Skribble]

Northstar? I thought that was the name of one of their car engines. :confused:

[FrankW]

LOL... sorry... full name... Cadillac Northstar LMP (GTP class in lemans)

-Frank

[Skribble]

Cool. :cool: That's the type of LeMans car like where the cockpit is open, right?

Also, what L3 parts will fit on the Carpet Knife and does CRC make any 10th scale pan cars?

[FrankW]

Yeah, it's an open cockpit car. It's acually pretty sweet, and it won't be that hard to carve (I'm really glad I got the dicast model)... The rear view mirrors won't be do-able though but does anyone really care? As long as it looks like the real car, LOL.

-Frank

[FrankW]

Oh yeah, and yes CRC does... it's called the Pantoura.

The front end is totally associated, they use an associated shock, I think the side dampners are from associated as well... And I wouldn't be surprised if the side pod plates and the upper pod plates from associated fit.

-Frank

[TC3 Benjammin]

WOOOOOOOOWEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!


Lookee what I got comin':

Associated RC12L Competitiion
Hitec/RCD HS-225BBS Mighty Mini Servo Hitec/JR
Protoform 1/12 Speed 8 LMP Reg
Trinity Speed Gem 2 Onyx 14T Double Motor
W.S. Deans 2-Pin Ultra Plug (2)
Robinson Racing 48 Pitch Pinion Gear 17T

Also got a fresh-cut, new-brushed 10T Speed Gem waitin'!!! And some kick-booty Peak brushes waitin' for the 14T! My LRP V6 is gonna have a field day!

Gotta break up my 2400 and nickel metals into some 4-cell packs! Alllllright. Feelin' the flow.:p :D

Can't wait to put this little rocket together!

FrankW, thanks for the advice. Looks like you're the "moderator" of this thread!:)

[FrankW]

Sounds like a great combination! That'll perform fast and furious on that set-up. Gonna race or just bash? LOL, I got some crazy garing on my 11T in my Carpet Knife... like 24/72 or something like that... I'm thinking about putting in that 32 pinion I got in there... Woooo

I just got some old school motor spring and brushes specially tuned for 12th scale (off ebay), so when the season starts I'm going to dyno them on a speedgems 2 motor (I'll be getting a P-94 soon though). and compare them to some other brush/spring combos.

I can hardly wait to knock off a few of those Cadillac bodies for preproduction to test them out. I am so tired of the flying wedges.

-Frank

[TC3 Benjammin]

Originally posted by FrankW
I can hardly wait to knock off a few of those Cadillac bodies for preproduction to test them out. I am so tired of the flying wedges.

-Frank

I'm in the market! Lemme know when they're done!:D

[TC3 Benjammin]

Originally posted by FrankW
Sounds like a great combination! That'll perform fast and furious on that set-up. Gonna race or just bash?

BASH BASH BASH!!! LOL

[FrankW]

LOL, don't worry, when I got them done, I'll have a big announcement with pictures and things LOL.

Bashing is fun. I need to get another 12th scale up and running to bash (cause my Carpet Knife will be a race only vehical), lol... I have so many 12th scale chassis' I'm not even sure if I can remember them all.

-Frank

[RS4rally1124]

hey those bodies should be sweat sign me up for 1. The 1/12 scale cars are sweet. in a drag race with the 15*4 i am beating my cousins aegt with a .12 that is really powerful, and that is only with 4 cells what if i could configure it to run on something like 8 cells.... that would be insane w/ the 6

for a spead project i think i should go with a double turn what do you think. the car wont be running in modified mode for a while until i am a better driver but i have some project ideas. Maybe a twin motor......:D :D :D



JT

[FrankW]

LOL... for all out speed, you should try running a 6T P-94 motor and at least 6 cells. But if you can afford it, try a brushless motor in that thing... LOL.

-Frank

[RS4rally1124]

im not that insane yet my lhs got a prototype of a brushless a few weaks ago and they put it in a t3 and noone could controle the thing.



Oh did i mention it was modified with 14cells to drag...:D :D lol. no but i don't want brushless yet i think the twin motor will be my first project


JT

[Skribble]

I think I'm gonna get a Six-Pack and go all out bashing .. Not sure though.

[FrankW]

I'm going to get a brushless sometime soon. Probebly wait until Novak comes out with theirs, and see who's is considered the best (No doubt RCCA will do a comparison... they better!)

The 6 pack will be a good vehical. It'll also be competitive in a racing format too.

-Frank

[RS4rally1124]

if i do brushless i will put it in my tc first and bash but then i may try to put it in my 1/12. Keep working on the bodies.



JT

[FrankW]

I wonder how they compare to brushed motors in the acceleration department...

-Frank

[Skribble]

I was thinking about getting a Saiko G-Force motor but I just found out they're $285. :eek:

One of the guys pulled 112 MPH with one of those motors.

[FrankW]

Yeah, they are the big drag-race motors... I want to get one for my new rail dragster I'm going to build.

-Frank

[Skribble]

It sucks being poor. Lol.

I was looking at some dirt oval cars .. Like $500. :eek:

Is there anything faster than a pan car that can steer better then a dragster and funny car?

[FrankW]

Sure, a gas pan car... I have a Serpent impact (a couple acually, but I'm going to get one RTR and sell it) and they his 60 easy. and the 8th gas pans can hit 70mph easy, 80 with a good set-up

-Frank

[Skribble]

I want Electric because it's cheaper and cleaner. :D

Can't you get a Carpet Knife going 70 with a 6 turn quad running 6-cells?

[FrankW]

First... the Carpet Knife is a 4 cell only machine. Second... you might be able to do it with a CRC 6-Pack... but you might wanna try putting in 8 cells...

-Frank

[Skribble]

Oops. That's what I meant. :D

What version of the Impact do you have and how much are you going to sell it for and the RTR? Would it be able to run on uneven surfaces?

[FrankW]

The one I'm going to sell is a '98 2WD with a couple hundred $'s worth of extra parts. A Mega .15 big-block. A 2 speed with centax clutch. and a Futaba Magnum Junior <b>FM</b> radio.

I'm not going to put a price down because this isn't a B/S/T forum, nor a gas thread.

I also have a 12L3 for sale (to get back on the topic of 12ths)

-Frank

[Skribble]

How much for the L3? And could you PM me a price on the Impact?

[FrankW]

I'm asking $90 but I might be able to make a deal ;) .

-Frank

[baileym]

Anyone know where I can buy 3 hole rims without tires already mounted? I need an online place since I am overseas right now.

[Skribble]

Well .. jus' found out my friend is selling a RTR XXX with some goodies for $150. I'm gonna buy that, keep some of the good stuff, and then buy a Carpet Knife or L3. :D

[FrankW]

baileym: I looked everywhere but I couldn't find just the bare rims... I'm sorry.

Skribble: LOL... as long as you get a 12th sometime soon, it's all good.

-Frank

[Skribble]

Hm .. Do you know if I could just get a Saiko G-Force motor can and not the amature?

[FrankW]

I wouldn't know if you could...

-Frank

[Skribble]

I wish Touring Cars and Pan Cars were more popular around here. :( My local LHS Touring Car races has it in their back parking lot and puts colored taped on the ground for the course.

[FrankW]

LMAO... Move up here... then you can race at Jacknjul's new carpet track when he opens it up.

-Frank

[Skribble]

I would but I can't drive yet. :( Our best track here is about 30 minutes away which is a bank concrete oval with a onroad section in the inside. I think that place recently got a asphalt sedan track.

Lucky .. Carpet. :(

[FrankW]

LOL... yes, yes we are lucky. But any track is better than no track.

-Frank

[Skribble]

True .. My friends think I'm dumb for buying a pan car and think I should upgrade my KE XXX. :mad:

Offroad is the more popular racing here.

[FrankW]

Psh... offroad is so lame...

-Frank

[Skribble]

Lol. I would prefer on-road, but I'd be like the only kid their and everyone else has all the "high-tech" equipment. AM sucks. :(

[FrankW]

LOL... when you get an FM radio you'll wonder how you survived using AM.

-Frank

[Skribble]

I was perfectly fine with AM with my XXX-T .. But now with my KE XXX it just glitches like mad. :(

[FrankW]

LOL... sell it all and buy a pan car and FM radio... who cares what offroad people think about onroad.

-Frank

[Skribble]

I kinda wanna race offroad too .. It's just I don't like that the good street car track is pretty far. I usually ride my bike to my hobby shop, but if I start racing at the other track, Showtime Speedway, I won't be able to race as much.

[MICRORACING]

--Yes I agree, I wish pan car racing was more popular too. I live in Los Angeles, the closest track that has any pan car racing is so-cal.(which has absolutely no 1/12 class)
---I'm probally waisting my time, but I'm putting a lot of effort into finding a location where an on-road course can be permanently set up in L.A.

[Skribble]

I like in Bakersfield, 2 hours way from LA. I think we only race 10th scale Pan cars here.

[FrankW]

Get a few friends, rise up and demand that they race 12th scale.

-Frank

[Skribble]

None of my friends have $150 dollars to spare. :(

[FrankW]

then tell them to make some ghetto ones! As long as they fit under a 12th scale body, it's all good.

-Frank

[Skribble]

LOL! :D My friend was thinking of doing that. Buy a piece of carbon fiber, cut it out, buy some parts and run it. ;)

[FrankW]

That's all you need to do! Tell him to go for it.

-Frank

[Skribble]

He's always borrowin' money so when he get's his allowance, he's still broke because he has to pay everyone back. Lol.

[FrankW]

LOL... now that's bad.

I got a 1/12th scale '67 Bolink Camero body a little while back... you know what I think would be cool? 1/12 eigth mile drags. You don't need much space for it either.

-Frank

[Skribble]

LOL. That'd be awesome. The main reason I'm getting the Pan car is to just drag race people with it. :cool:

[Skribble]

Oh yeah, and bragging rights. :D

[FrankW]

LOL... I'm going to try to find a (maybe make a) 12th scale supercharged dummy engine to put on the body.

-Frank

[Skribble]

What body are you gonna put it on? :D

[FrankW]

*rolles eyes* a Diablo GTP. LOL, the '67 Camaro... obviously.

-Frank

[Skribble]

Do you have a pic. of it?

[FrankW]

No, I haven't painted it yet...

-Frank

[Skribble]

Ack .. This is gonna go on a 12th scale?

[FrankW]

***? Yes, it's going on a 12th scale... what did you think?

-Frank

[Skribble]

Where'd you get the body? I'm currently brain-dead.

[FrankW]

I got it off ebay. It's a Bolink '67 Camaro. I don't think they are being produced in 12th scale anymore. So I'm hesitant about painting it.

-Frank

[Skribble]

That'd look awesome with a dummy engine though ..

[FrankW]

That's why I want to find or make one!!!

-Frank

[Skribble]

Make* ( Grammer mistake :D )

Couldn't you buy one of those model kits?

Oh yeah, if I went with a really low wind motor how do I take care of it? Like, how often cut the com, switch brushes, etc?

[FrankW]

I know... and I corrected it.

I don't think they make one in 12th scale.

You need to cut the comm quite often... for sport running, every few runs (maybe get a days worth of running) for racing, every run or two (to keep it in top shape). And I'd switch the brushes after every few runs if I were racing.

-Frank

[Skribble]

Aw man .. :( Might as well try to get a brushless, which would be like next year. :(

[FrankW]

LOL, yeah it'll be a whole lot easier... and in the long run, cheaper (no comm or brushes to wear out). I'll be getting one sometime.

-Frank

[Skribble]

Finally got my Cyclone 2 back. I can't solder on the *!@$^%$# wires. :( They won't stay on.

[FrankW]

lol, throw it away and get something other than a novak.

-Frank

[Skribble]

Bleh .. I would but since the package is opened I would only be able to sell it like for 80-90 bucks. :(

Do you know anything on the Multiplex radios?

[FrankW]

Buy a better soldering iron (you use a gun right? told you they suck :p ).

Nope... I'm loyal to Futaba.

-Frank

[Skribble]

It's 75 watts ... I don't see any difference between a Pen and a gun when you put the wires on.

What kind of Futaba radio do you have? I have a JR Python, Lol. :D

[FrankW]

Pens hold and transfer heat energy better and more efficiently... very important in the R/C word (so you don't burn up your batts and eletronics)

I own:
Magnum Jr (for small sport vehicals)
Magnum Jr FM (came in an auction, going to sell it with the Serpent Impact)
Magnum 3PDF (my main radio)
3PJ (going to sell).

-Frank

[FrankW]

I also own the older version of the SkySport 6.

-Frank

[Skribble]

Cool ... I need better electronics. It sucks having a huge reciever. :(

[FrankW]

LOL... Futabas Rock!!! And they sponsor Indy car racing!!!

-Frank

[Skribble]

What a good motor that won't need a lot of maintence that can get a pan car going 55+ MPH?

And do you know if the Cyclone 2 can handle 8-cells?

[FrankW]

Might wanna try the speed gems2 9-turn. Or a P-94 11 turn or so.

Should be able to... check Novaks site.

-Frank

[Skribble]

How much faster would the car go if I was using 6-cells compared to 8-cells?

[FrankW]

LOL... I'm sure the car would go <b>slower</b> on 6 cells then on 8 cells.

-Frank

[Skribble]

Lol. :) Where should I put the other 2 cells?

[FrankW]

Just put them on top of the others... so each one is siting in the crevis made by the two rearward cells.

-Frank

[Linkin Park fan]

in 1/12 scale would i need a micro servo or would a standard fit???? By the way it would be in a corally, if that matters.





ThanxZared:D ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

[Linkin Park fan]

Is ther a new Trinity car out or what? I'm desidin between corally and Trinity. I know where to get the corally, but not the trinity. Where can i get it???? Please help





Thanx~~~~~Linkin Park Fan:)

[FrankW]

Look into the Hitec HS-81 for a servo, it's about $20 and perfect for 12th scale.

If you can get the parts support, I'd recommend the Corrally. But, over all, I still recommend a CRC car or an AE car over either the trinity or Corrally... but that's personal preferance. Trinity cars have been notorious for poor parts support. But the new Trinity SB 2002 should be out soon. Ask your LHS if they can get it.

-Frank

[Skribble]

We have some Trinity stuff at our LHS .. Just some aluminum stuff for the XXX, XXX-T, XXX-Nt and some others.

[FrankW]

But still... their parts support suck... Tower Hobbies doesn't even have much.

-Frank

[Skribble]

Lol. Too damn expensive .. 18 bucks for some aluminum body mounts for the XXX.

[FrankW]

Their cars are too expensive too... $200 for a 12th scale chassis?

-Frank

[Skribble]

CRC Bloody Knife is $225.

[FrankW]

Hey, at least it looks pretty!!! (although I still wouldn't buy it)

-Frank

[Skribble]

LOL! ;) True .. It does look "purdy." :D

[FrankW]

And think about it... what name would you rather have? Switchblade *yawns*... or Bloody Knife *grins*? Wouldn't you want to gore your competition with something bloody?

-Frank

[Skribble]

LOL!

Did you make that up yourself? Pretty good. ;)

[Linkin Park fan]

For a micro servo.... how much torque should it have?????

Here is a servo im looking athttp://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p.pgm?Q=1&I=LX0805&P=7 Is that a good servo or what?
Its airtronics
33 oz. torque
0.07 sec.

ThanxLinkin Park Fan:D ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

[FrankW]

Originally posted by Skribble
Did you make that up yourself? Pretty good. ;)

LOL, yes, yes I did...

Linkin: That servo will do good (provided you have an airtronics radio system). Although, it does seem a little heavy... but it'll work well.

-Frank

[RS4rally1124]

Hey i am still loving the twelf scale. if i put a 9 turn speed gems 2 will the 1/12 go alot faster. It was really not fair yesterday the guys at my track were racing oval and they let the 1/12 guys run in open mod w/ our touring. these guys were runing 8 cells and hand built 5 turn motors. They were flying until we started runing them over:D . I FORGOT my 1/12:mad: :( . these guys were really sad when the 70mph bloody knife ran into my 30mph and he broke a few parts.

[Skribble]

LOL! Did you break anything?

[RS4rally1124]

no i didn't break anything.

hey frank, about motors is it really important to cut the lathe. I change and clean brushes but i have never cut the lathe.

i want to know why you hate off road. I don't race but i think it is fun to play and race offroad. don't get me wrong i love onroad but off road seems more fun for messing around.


JT

[FrankW]

Originally posted by RS4rally1124
if i put a 9 turn speed gems 2 will the 1/12 go alot faster

It depends on what you have in there already. But if you have anything with more than 9 turns, then yes, you will go faster.

-Frank

[FrankW]

Originally posted by RS4rally1124
hey frank, about motors is it really important to cut the lathe. I change and clean brushes but i have never cut the lathe.

i want to know why you hate off road. I don't race but i think it is fun to play and race offroad. don't get me wrong i love onroad but off road seems more fun for messing around.


JT

If you are racing, yes, yes t is important to cut the comm. If you are just bashing, don't worry about it, but it'll help keep your motor performing to it's fullest.

Because, offroad doesn't thrill me, it's too damn popular, and it just doesn't require the same skill and finess. It's like comparing full sized dirt oval to Formula One racing. Sure you get more crashes in dirt oval, but all they do is mash the throttle and go in circles. However, in Formula One racing, they have to carefully balance throttle with steering to guide these 200+ MPH machines around a tight twisty road course while their oponents are trying for the same position only a few inches away. Formula One displays more driver talent than Dirt oval. My 2 cents.

-Frank

[RS4rally1124]

totally agree with you. When i race my rc10 it is different driving skill. On my track the dirt is so loose that just getting around the track is hard. BUt i totally agree, the tc racing is more set up and 1/12 is almost to much for me.

will a quad turn really help more in oval than a double. i want the 9 double because it may be able to lift the front when drag racing.

also how are the bodies coming, they sound sweat i really want one bad

Also my dad said i could order stuff and buy more now, how much for the 3pj i really need a better rabio than the tower 2txp.


JT

[Skribble]

I also agree, they require more skill than the average Joe. Plus, they're faster and have less wrecks.

We have 4 Novice Stock Truck classes, about 10 racers in each. 1st turn, there is always a pileup. In the 2wd buggy class, we have about 5 stock novice racers and 5 mod expert racers.

[FrankW]

If you're going to drag race it and to oval, I'd suggest getting two different motors. Like a really fast P-94 for oval, and then something with a look of torque (like a single wind) for the drag racing. If you don't mind cutting comms a lot, you might be able to use a 6 or 7 turn single for both.

As for the bodies... the mold is coming along slowly... I've purchased the vacuum former... but the shaping of the mold is taking it's time... so it might be a little while still.

And the radio... if the only experiance you have is with a cheep tower radio, then I would suggest something a little simpler. The 3PJ has too many features for the beginner, and many of them are difficult to decifer, or use properly. Also, because I'm selling the transmitter only, you'd need to buy a seperate reciever and servo. Although, I could put the 3PJ in the serpent and sell you the Magnum Jr FM. It'll be a lot cheaper, it's in perfect condition, and it suits your situation perfectly (I think so anyways). I could let it go with one of my FM recievers, I'll have to look around for the best one to sell.

-Frank

[RS4rally1124]

the fm jr would be great a lot of people @ my track love it. I am used to meany features i use my cousins 3pj when i drive his gt and for planes when i fly i use 9 channel computer radios, now those are confusing:confused: :confused: :confused: . But if you could sell fm jr that would be awsome.

also i use only futaba servos r they all compatible thanks

JT

[FrankW]

LOL, I fly too... but I use an older SkySport 6 radio.

I'm getting rid of the 3PJ, because trying to go through all the menus on the drivers stand is just... annoying.

I'll definitly look into my reciever stash and pull one out for the radio, then I'll PM you on it.

Futaba servos will be fine.

-Frank

[Skribble]

Bleh .. I'm deciding whether to get the Six-Pack or a FM radio first.

[FrankW]

Get them both... but if you can't, you should probebly go with the radio, because you don't want a glitch to send your 50 mph CRC into a curb.

-Frank

[Skribble]

That's what happened to my Nitro 4-TEC because the reciever pack died. :mad: :: Grumbles. :: Stupid cheapie batteries.

Whole front end was broken, never fixed it either.

[FrankW]

LOL... that's not good.

-Frank

[RS4rally1124]

i only fly 1/4 but it is getting a little to expensive. i don't own the planes but my uncle lets me fly them as long as i pay for fule and maitanance. i think it is preaty good deal for the equptment. he uses not only the 9 channel but he has only multi cylander engines.

how much do you want for the jr i really want a better radio. also i thought their was a post earlier someone posted something about a gas engine in their 1/12. that seems that it would be extremely fast and fun. i would only do it with a ten dollar 1/12 that is all plastic composite crap. sounds like fun EXTREME SPEED

:D :D :D


JT:cool:

[FrankW]

I mostly fly electric now.

I don't know yet... let me see if one of my Tekin recievers work, then I'll let you know.

LOL... I just got a 12th scale COX gas car I bought off ebay... I can't wait to get that running.

-Frank

[RS4rally1124]

sounds fun, i was thinking of a way to put in a 1.1 hp .12 engine. actually my engine is a 2.5 hp .12 ( special modifications)
what elec do you fly? i have been looking @ backyard fliers because they are small and easy to control.


JT

[FrankW]

I fly a Zagi 400X, a Bobcat (sail plane with ailerons) and a Heinkel HE-162 ducted fan jet (Nick Zaroli plans). I also have a House Of Balsa P-51 Mustang (10th scale) with a .26 O.S. in it (probebly sell it). And I have a Global Superfly with a Magnum 15XL that I might try to get flying again (or sell). And I have a kyosho T-33 that i will sell here soon.

2.5 HP in a .12?!?! what are those special mods? 60% nitro and Nitrous? And how would you fit a .12 in a 12th scale?

-Frank

[Skribble]

2.5?! :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

[Skribble]

Frank, you making the LMP or the LMP-02?

[FrankW]

The LMP.

-Frank

[Skribble]

Okay. Just saw the car for my first time. That thing is awesome. :eek:

[FrankW]

Yeah it is an awesome car... I'm a bit behind schedual. Which bites... but I should have the mold finished (to my satisfaction) here in a couple weeks.

-Frank

[Skribble]

Cool, as long as you get it done. :cool:

[FrankW]

I'll definitly get it done.

-Frank

[RS4rally1124]

yes 2.5hp with 10% nitro. The hp is the same as a real engine. An engine gets more hp with more compression. my uncle has helped me port polish and shave the cylander head. Our next project is a .21:D :D :D :D .

i don't know how to fit a .12 in a 1/12 but it would be sweet. i am making scetches of it and planing.

what do you think i should do to make a 1/12 go 70mph? the 6 turn will get me close but can i put a 2 speed in a 1/12? just an idea.


JT

[FrankW]

Here is what you should do to get a 12th scale to 70. Get a 6 turn motor (unless you can get a brushless), get the smallest spur gear you can find. Get the biggest pinion you can find... cram them in there (might have to elongate the motormount holes). Fit at least 8 cells into the machine. Use brandnew tires. And trim as much of the wing off the body as you can. Use an internal antenna. Find a big wide open space, and zoom. That should get you to 70, if not 80. If you have one near by (i do), you might wanna try running it with an oval set up at a velodrome (bicycle oval race track).

-Frank

[RS4rally1124]

no velodrome but i do have a huge parking lot. would the 2 speed not work or would it be a waste. and 1 more thing on a project car my cousin just used 2 of the same sized spur gear and it had no accelleration but the top speed for oval was huge. he was 2 laps behind in a race and once the car got going he caught up and won by 3 laps.

JT

[Skribble]

LOL! My friend just said that his HPI RS4 Pro went 55 MPH with a 8 turn.

[FrankW]

Originally posted by RS4rally1124
no velodrome but i do have a huge parking lot. would the 2 speed not work or would it be a waste. and 1 more thing on a project car my cousin just used 2 of the same sized spur gear and it had no accelleration but the top speed for oval was huge. he was 2 laps behind in a race and once the car got going he caught up and won by 3 laps.

JT

There is no such thing as a 2 speed for an electric pancar. It's a byproduct of having direct drive and a solid axel.

Skribble: That speed can be achieved (with an RS4 Pro) on an 8 turn provided you have a 2 speed transmission and can gear it up to an other-wise useless ratio. 8 cells might have been used, which makes that speed even more achievable.

-Frank

[Skribble]

He was running a 6-cell 3000 battery, normal gearing, and a 1-speed. My other friend saw him driving and "sayed" he was going 70. I was like .. LOL, they can't tell speeds. :D He also said it went as fast as my Nitro 4-TEC which has a 2-speed.

[FrankW]

LOL... if his RS4 was going 70 then my Serpent Impact must go like 130.

-Frank

[Skribble]

LOL!!! You just beat Chris Collin's and Cliff Lett's record!! :D

[Skribble]

And they think his RS4 is fast? Wait till they see my Pan car! :D ;)

[FrankW]

LOL, I'll blow you all away with my 250 MPH slingslot dragster! LMAO.

-Frank

[RS4rally1124]

i say we do a pan car speeed record. we could do a 1 shot with like 20 aa size batteries. That would be the best. we could do a nitro 1/12 speed run with a 1.1 hp engine w/ 30% nitro. it would set a speed record for sure. and then rig a 3 speed to it. (and then it blows up):D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D



JT

[FrankW]

LOL... I'll be useing one of my 12th scale pan cars for a speed run car. I'll see if I can get in the Tacoma Velodrome to test it. I'm thinking 8 cells and a 6 turn motor to start with. Then when a good brushless system comes out... Zooom!

-Frank

[RS4rally1124]

sweet idea i am making drawings curently for a 12 cell 1/12 scale and my lhs owner said he will hand wind a 5 turn motor for me for $20 if i want. i say yes:D :D :D

can you say mini fast and the furious

JT

[Skribble]

LOL!!! :D I was thinking about that for a while .. Aveox makes 1.5 Brushless motors. ;)

[FrankW]

LOL... Where're you going to run this 12th scale land missle?

-Frank

[Skribble]

On the freeway!! Lol. ;)

How fast could you get a Pan car with a stock motor and 6-cells?

[FrankW]

Mmm, if you geared high? 45...

-Frank.

[Skribble]

With a stock motor?!?!?! :eek: :eek:

[FrankW]

Provided you put in the largest pinion and smallest spur you could use sure. That's assuming you have top of the line cells and motor (and you know how to tune your motor for maximum performance).

[Skribble]

My friend tunes motors and a guy from Ruby Motors comes down and races here every now and than. What stock motor do you recomend and for speed, is torque or RPM more needed?

[FrankW]

Number crunching.

Most Trinity stock motors are rated at about 30,000 rpms. Let's use 80% of that as a probable running speed = 24000. Tires are about 2.05 inches in diameter (last time I acually measured them with calipers). And lets assume a 22 pinion and 72 spur which is what I use for my 4 cell mod 12th with excelent sport running results... stock 6 cell could use about the same gearing (I could go to a higher pinion if I wanted with little trouble too). All that equates to about 44.7 mph. In other words, about 45 mph.

As for suggesting a stock motor... I'd go with something a little more rpm sided, since a light pan car doesn't need a whole lotta torque... and rpm is needed if you run on a track that's normally used for 10th scale cars or bigger.

-Frank

[Skribble]

Got any brands you like?

[FrankW]

For stock motors? I like the trinity cans. I just got a Phantom motor in an auction that I'm going to try out.

-Frank

[Skribble]

I think I might go with a Reedy MVP or a P2K2. Also, I might be able to get a Airtronics 3PS for 100 bucks, but I'll still need to get a receiver.

[FrankW]

Get both... if you don't like one, then sell it on ebay. But I'd look into the trinity/epic based motors, and see if you can get the big brush conversion to fit it.

-Frank

[Skribble]

Where can you get the conversion? And what brushes do they take? We don't have those bigger ones at our LHS.

[Taz_S]

Just can not wait to it warm up to go race out side.

[FrankW]

Originally posted by Skribble
Where can you get the conversion? And what brushes do they take? We don't have those bigger ones at our LHS.

The brush conversion is made by Trinity. It uses the new larger "square" brushes designed for the P-94. It's the P-94 conversion. You can put in on D4's and SpeedGems, so I suspect you can put it on a stocker. It's only like $12 (or less), ask your LHS to order it. Or you can buy it here...
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p.pgm?Q=1&I=LXBPF6&P=0

-Frank

[TC3 Benjammin]

Just finished the build and took it out for the first spin. Everything went well. This thing flies. I have the brand new 14T in there now. I think it'll go a little faster once the brushes seat and everything.

[FrankW]

Real nice 12L3, got any pictures of the body?

-Frank