Pro 10 forum

[Taz_S]

Pro 10 on-road forum

Post anything about Pro 10(aka 1/10th road cars) car here, setups, whatever

[Taz_S]

Originally posted by MarkA:
Ok guys, it is time to begin the PR campaign, Part II.

As explained in my post on the ROAR Carpet Nationals, 1/10th GTP Pan Car is an optional class for a host track to run at a ROAR National. That is true for the ROAR OnRoad Nationals being hosted at MHOR Raceway in Denver, CO. Therefore, we need to make sure that the host track knows not to simply overlook our class when planning the event.

As I asked everyone for the Carpet Nationals, even if you're not going, please consider sending a simple E-mail to questions@mhorrc.com simply saying that you want to see 1/10th GTP Pan Car continue to be raced at the ROAR Nationals level.

For example, while there are at least 7-8 of us SoCal regulars that will go to Stockton for the Carpet Nats. if they run the class and over 15 of us for the NORRCA OnRoad Nats. (they've already guaranteed us a chance to race there) at HotRod Hobbies in Saugus, only about 4-5 of us are serious about going to Denver. Nonetheless, the ROAR OnRoad Nationals in the biggest race of those and making sure that a 1/0th GTP/Pro10 class is ran at that race should be a top priority of anyone that wants to see this class survive, and in our case at SoCal, even see a good bit of growth.

[Taz_S]

Here guys fount one more Pro 10 car.

http://www.academy.co.kr/rc/ca178/ca178e.html
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http://www.academy.co.kr/rc/ca178/ca178ir.jpg
http://www.academy.co.kr/rc/ca178/ca178is.jpg

http://www.academy.co.kr/rc/ca178/ca178it.jpg
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[Taz_S]

Originally posted by Xpress
Hey guys, what is the diameter of a new 1/12 tire?
In the last ROAR Nationals, people of the 1/10 scale were running stock (MVP) with final gear ratios of 4.6 and in the 1/12 modified I have seen people with final ratio of 3.3 with 10x4 motors. Now I am confused. Is this because of the weight's difference, tire diameter's difference, the track or what?


Someone ask this at http://www.balakracing2.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?topic=247&forum=10&10

So if any one can help with this would be great

[Taz_S]

Originally posted by KerryG
The California Drivers Challenge has just announced it's first racing series. To be held primarily at SoCal RC Raceway in Huntington Beach, CA , the California Drivers Challenge aims to promote the 1/10th GTP Pan Car (Pro 10) OnRoad class that is growing in Southern California.

For the complete announcement go to:
http://www.wildhobbies.com/news/default.asp?cmd=view&articleid=508

[Taz_S]

We had 6 cars last weekend and The California Drivers Challenge in SoCal long like they getting bigger and bigger. Now we need to get some of the old timers to dust off their cars and bring them out.

[TEM]

What batt/motor are the racers running? The cars are fast and look good, but I can imagine running 6 cell mod can possibly scare people off! Many companies are going with narrow pan chassis to fit TC bodies, ie RC10L3, Pantoura, CCT, SpeedSpec, etc... Are there any chances of bring up a Pan-Sedan class too?

[InspGadgt]

This type of thing should be posted in the Vehicle forums.

[Taz_S]

TEM: We do run Mod Pro 10 with 6 cells. It is fast and fun you can turn on a dime some times. You can use the same batt/motor as TC but you have less ware and tare then you do with the TC.


InspGadgt: If they can move it. I would not mine one bit.

[InspGadgt]

Cool I'll see if Troy will move it for you.

I raced SoCal last weekend with the pan car guys there. Raced my 1/12th scale and had a blast. The guys there were a lot of help and really made my visit enjoyable. I plan to go back next weekend and race again.

[MarkA]

Gadget - Glad you had a good time. :)

BTW, a good number of us SoCal guys hang out on the net here: http://www.rctech.net/forum/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=5 .

[InspGadgt]

yeah I have an account there too but between work and the RCCA BB I have a hard enough time keeping up with those.

[Taz_S]

InspGadgt: Good you had a great time and hope you are coming Nat's at Hot Rods this June.

[TEM]

Think someone mentioned that they'd like to see CRC come out with a new Pro10 car. Anyways, what would it take to convert a pantoura(pan touring 190mm) to a Pro10? Is it worth doing, moneywise and performance wise?

[Taz_S]

You can do it. I wish CRC could make one out of the pantoura.

You can use the same chassis plate. Just have to make a plate to be use the same holes for the front in of the TC pan cars and make it wide enough to get the same width as a L2. The rear plates need to be redone too. They just need to move the bulkheads out and use the same axle and hubs as a L2.

CRC can keep the same damper tubes top and bottom spring locations. Also need to make wider side nuffs. If I had the equipment to make these pieces I would make them and try it out to see if it would work. I believed it would be a very cool car.

Keil did that for their F1 car. I like the old days when Pro 10 had as many car out there as TC do today.

The class would grow if we had more cars to buy. In SoCal they have a big class and here in Nor Cal it growing but we need more car to help the growth.

[IanMan]

They had a car called the Roadkill 10 way back in the mid 90's it was a collaboration with TeamSpeedMerchant. try going to www.TeamSpeedMerchant.com and sending them an E-mail, What you'll find out is that the Pantoura is actually a SKINNY version of the Roadkill 10. In order to make the Pantora a Roadkill 10 you'd need a Chassis with a wider front-end to move the suspension arms out, and you'd need a Pro-10 style axle and hubs to space accordingly on the rear pod.

Ian Ruggles
Team SpeedMerchant

[Taz_S]

Just like I said before is that they needed to make a plate on top of the chassis where the narrow front end-use to go. You would use the old holes the same holes with the narrow front end go.

They still need to redo the rear top and bottom plate to get the right size for the back end.

This way they can use the cars that they have left over to save on cost. Then at the same time they can get two cars out of one.

[IanMan]

The only problem with the wide front- end mounting plate idea is that you now have four more screws and another graphite plate hanging on the front-end. When you hit a board the force of ramming the board will be transferred in to that plate, which will enevitably move that plate around.

We did alot of wide front plate testing on Narrow Oval cars way back when people ran SS cars only on banked tracks, and thought you had to have a wide car on short flat tracks. We noticed the above mentioned problem would occur quite frequently.

If you E-mail SpeedMerchant Bruce Carbone may have enough, Chassis, and and upper and lower pod plates, to set a few cars up for you Pro 10 starved guys. I feel it would be a much more effective way to go.

[LouisB]

What type of pro-10 car is everybody running?
I run a Tamiya F103 (don't laugh) and most other people are using Associated RC10 L3s and Corallys

[Taz_S]

Most of us are using RC10L2, and SB10.

[LouisB]

Has anyone used UFRA tires on parking lot tracks, I just got some of the pink soft rears and I was wondering if they are any good. I had to get the UFRAs as the Tamiya wheels are quite small (diameter) and all the other ones fall off:D , who makes the best Pro-10 tires?
It's V cold where I live and race in the evening so tire warmers are a great help, I only have Eagle ones for TC's and I need to know who makes good warmers for pro-10.
What overall gearing is everyone using (ball-park figure) for 13 turn motors, bearing in mind that I have mostly 2400 packs?

[MarkA]

LouisB - Living in the US, I don't have any experience with UFRA tires but if their "Pink" in the same as the Pinks we get over here, you should be good. Most Pro10 racers in the U.S. use either Jaco (http://www.jacoracing.com/) or TRC tires. If you wanted to order either one, you could do so at an online shop like: http://www.stormerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/searchpn.pl?stype=cust&pn=JAC&man=Jaco%20Foam%20Tires or http://www.stormerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/searchpn.pl?stype=cust&pn=TRC&man=TRC .

I don't know of anyone that makes a Pro10 specific tire warmer, sorry.

I assume that you're racing for the European standard of 5 minutes since your location says, "UK" so that's a tough one on 2400's. Depending on your tire diameter, I would start with a pinion/spur ratio of @5.00 or slightly lower and work from there depending on your tire size, track size, battery life, motor timing, etc, etc.

Sorry I couldn't be more specific on your questions but I hope that's a start.

[Taz_S]

Tk for coming ove Mark.

[LouisB]

Thanks Mark,
I have worked out roughly the right gear ratio but will start on the conservative side.
I know that Trinity made good 12v tire warmers that work for Pro-10 but they stopped making them because they have been known to catch on fire :eek:
I may try some TRC or Jaco tires next time I make an order from Stormer (postage is quite expensive to the UK).

The club I run at is experimenting with a new scoring system for Pro-10, we don't have much time in the evenings and we can only have 4 rounds of racing so we are running 4 heats and adding the laps and time from the best 2 heats 2gether to give the overall result, it may not have the excitement of a final but it means that consistency is most important and you won't neccesarily get a bad result if you break in what would be the final, do any other races happen like this and what do you think of the system?
TEM- we don't have many racers (8 regulars and a few that turn up sometimes) and we all run 6 cell modified and it doesn't put me off racing :D:D
I'm just suprised that a class this fast and relatively cheap (i got mine for $40 with three sets of tires) doesn't attract more racers. It has also made a big difference with my touring car driving(7th to 3rd place in the A final since I started)
Do you guys use tire additive?

[MarkA]

Louis – That’s an interesting scoring system but it doesn’t take into account changing track conditions. There will almost always one or two rounds ran when the track is ideal or the track is at it’s cleanest, or the track has the most rubber laid down, etc., etc. Personally, I’ve never heard of it before but it is certainly creative. It does eliminate bad luck in a single main but adds in having to go your fastest when the track is at it’s fastest. Each has it’s pros and cons I guess.

What do you mean only four rounds?!?! LOL…we’re happy to get two rounds and a mains and go home before 11 at night over here.
:)

Virtually everyone in the US runs some sort of traction compound on the tires. My personal favorite is Trinity’s Zip Grip2 (http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p.pgm?Q=1&I=LXKC85&P=7 ) but if that’s not working, then I just use sunscreen. I’ve came to prefer Coppertone such as: http://www.drugstore.com/products/prod.asp?pid=16328&catid=1282&trx=PLST-0-SRCH&trxp2=16328&trxp3=1&btrx=BUY-PD-PLST-0-SRCH but many people say that brand/type of sunscreen doesn’t matter.

On a side note, there is a much livelier Pro10/1/10th Pan Car forum over at www.rctech.net. Once you’re there, click, “message forums”, then “Oval, Larger Scales and More”, and then you’ll see a thread on topic that’s 40+ pages long.

[Taz_S]

TK Mark again. If any one eles have any ????? just ask here or at RCtech.com too. We are willing to help grow the class.

[Taz_S]

SO we getting ready for the Nat's in OR.

U.S. PAN CAR CHAMPIONSHIPS COMING APRIL 2005 (http://www.fishermenstudios.com/uspc/)
U.S. PAN CAR CHAMPIONSHIPS Forum (http://fishermenstudios.com/forum/index.php)

[Taz_S]

1. Anton Mark (Mark A.)
2. Stiles Tim (Taz_S)
3. Strasnick Mark
4. Strasnick Barry
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Ok we need 11 more.

62 more days.

http://www.rc-cars.com/enats/2004%20entry%20form%204-7-04.pdf

[Taz_S]

Here is the list of us that are going to the nat to race the funnies class.

1. Anton Mark
2. Ashby Steve
3. Stiles Tim
4. Strasnick Mark
5. Strasnick Barry
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46 days left we need to get the 10 more. The thing is we only “at this time” 1 car behind the only class that has 6 cars. That is the 1/12 th mod.

I know of 3 more that are signing up but I do not want to take the chance. It would be nice to get the biggest class at the nat’s.

For the Nor Cal guys I start a yahoo group to help with planning of road trip for us to get everyone to show up at one time to get the car count. This will show how the class use to be and how it can be.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pro10pro12/

http://www.rc-cars.com/enats/2004%2...rm%204-7-04.pdf

[Taz_S]

Here is the list of us that are going to the nat to race the funnies class.

1. Anton Mark
2. Ashby Steve
3. Stiles Tim
4. Strasnick Mark
5. Strasnick Barry
6. Davies Tom
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42 days left we need to get the 9 more. The thing is we only “at this time” 1 car behind the only class that has 7 cars. That is the TC stock.

I know of 2 more that are signing up but I do not want to take the chance. It would be nice to get the biggest class at the nat’s.

For the Nor Cal guys I start a yahoo group to help with planning of road trip for us to get everyone to show up at one time to get the car count. This will show how the class use to be and how it can be.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pro10pro12/

http://www.rc-cars.com/enats/2004%2...rm%204-7-04.pdf

[microrcdude]

i would sign up if i could get a car. BTW, mark davies has a fast lookin car. He may be the one to beat.

[Taz_S]

tower has them in stock right now.

[Taz_S]

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LX2417&P=0

[Taz_S]

Here is the list of us that are going to the nat to race the fun class.

1. Anton Mark
2. Ashby Steve
3. Stiles Tim
4. Strasnick Mark
5. Strasnick Barry
6. Davies Tom
7. O’Donnell Michael
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14. “Thirdplace”* Have the time off and sent there in.
15. “Jim Walls” *Have the time off and sent there in.

39 days left we need to get the 9 more.

I know of 2 more(Thirdplace and Jim Walls) that are signing up but I do not want to take the chance.

For the Nor Cal guys I start a yahoo group to help with planning of road trip for us to get everyone to show up at one time to get the car count. This will show how the class use to be and how it can be.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pro10pro12/

http://www.rc-cars.com/enats/2004%2...rm%204-7-04.pdf

http://www.uspancarchamps.com

[Taz_S]

On road Nat’s

As of 5-18-04 the "Minimum 15 entries by June 18th" has been waived. But that still dose not stop us, we need to get more cars in the class. So if you going to be at the nat’s sign up for the class and let grow the class.

http://www.rc-cars.com/enats/2004%20entry%20form%204-7-04.pdf

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pro10pro12/

[Taz_S]

here is the flyer again For the US pan car chap's

http://www.rctech.net/forum/attachment.php?s=&postid=1028166

[aspiringrcracer710]

Entries are now open so come be a part of history!

[aspiringrcracer710]

We are working on some nice stuff for entrants to the race. Here is the entry form:

http://home.satx.rr.com/rpena/images/USPCC-Flyer.jpg

You have until April 30 so get your entries in!