New Terra Crusher

[JAnderson]

You can find it here:
THE R/C DOCTOR (http://www.clickonpc.com/rcdoc/)

[Siro]

lol OMG, that is so sweet

TC Rocks!

[Siro]

oh btw, do u actually have a TC?

[Techspert]

That T-Maxx is GeTTinG dragged all over the place!!! :o :D :p

Gr8t video idea...How about a Tug-o-War with the EK-4???

[JAnderson]

answer #1 No its not mine

Answer #2 Everyone is calling the Terra Crusher a maxx clone that is why

[fatpat]

That's too funny! Awesome video!

[jives]

Originally posted by Techspert
That T-Maxx is GeTTinG dragged all over the place!!! :o :D :p

Gr8t video idea...How about a Tug-o-War with the EK-4???

hm maybe a Terra Crusher and a TMaxx vs the EK4 :)

[Possumbot]

That vid is sweet! And u can tell how much bigger the TC is than the T-maxx, I've been wondering how do they work all those features like reverse and shift on the fly stuff from a 2 ch?

[TRXboy]

Now dont get me wrong, terra definetly has more grunt, but alot of stuff needs to be put into consideration, How old is that T engine? ALSO the rope is not even, the terra crusher is getting pulled down, the T-maxx is getting pulled Up, that means an advantage to the terra.

[maxxxracer]

The unexpected voice of reason. hehe.

That site has some serious lag. I am waiting for the vid to load so i can give my take on the whole set-up. Not even seeing the vid, the guy says that his T-maxx is like 3 years old. That engine has to have no life left in it, and the car is probaly beat to heck. Another thing, is that the TC's tires are about twice as wide. Meanging that the T-maxx could be spinning its wheels at 100mph and it would not do any good cause it has no traction. This whole test has alot of things wrong with it. Just want to point that out.

When people say that it is not a clone of the T-maxx, they arnt looking at the car. Sure it may be of "higher quality" (laughing my a$$ off) and it is 20% bigger, but its engineered on the same basic principles. The took a T-maxx, and said what can we do to improve on the desing, make it more user friendly, ect...

One more thing, the TC is more of an 1/8 than a 1/10. Like putting a mp7.5 up against an T-maxx. Although the TC doesnt have big engine, ect...

[NitroOwnsYou]

LOL at the end is the best when the tmaxx gives up and gets smacked into a curb! I laughed for 10 minutes at that! now how can you state a fact like its 3 years old it has no life left to it?? you got a C4 buggy engine thats 3 years old that you want to give me :D Maybe he has changed the sleeve/piston in it. Sorry TMaxx's out with the old and in with the new! Oh and its not our fault that Traxxax was asleep at the wheel.....for a very long time mind you!

[beg4it]

Originally posted by TRXboy
Now dont get me wrong, terra definetly has more grunt, but alot of stuff needs to be put into consideration, How old is that T engine? ALSO the rope is not even, the terra crusher is getting pulled down, the T-maxx is getting pulled Up, that means an advantage to the terra.

I'm confused?? the rope is not even??? what does that mean??? You got a truck on each end, how can that not be even??

and what is that pulled up and pulled down mean??

I guess that all the people who are dissing the crucher have maxxes? I have a maxx myself and will have a crusher when they come out.

Remember its only a hobby.... :)

[Throtl Hapie]

That site is horrid. What's the server? 4mb RAM with 56k connection?:rolleyes: :mad:

[David24]

"I'm confused?? the rope is not even??? what does that mean??? You got a truck on each end, how can that not be even??"

Ever see someone put sand bags (or people) in the rear of a car? It pushes the rear end down giving it more traction, correct?

In the video the rear end of the Crusher was getting pulled down because it was taller, while the rear wheels of the smaller T-maxx were getting pulled off the ground giving it less traction.

Don't get me wrong i'm a T-maxx hater as well and i loved showing that vid to my cocky T-maxx buddy, put it still wasn't a fair match.

[Techspert]

Originally posted by David24


Don't get me wrong i'm a T-maxx hater as well and i loved showing that vid to my cocky T-maxx buddy, put it still wasn't a fair match.


...whatever, that T-Maxx got druggggg'd !!!! :D

[JAnderson]

The rope not even? LOL Looks like the maxx is squating down in the rear to me!

About the server? Must be your connection it works great!

[ATeam]

Well of course the Maxx is gonna get pulled around. The TC has a much taller gear ratio than the Maxx. DUH! :rolleyes:

TC
FWD 1st 29.67:1
FWD 2nd 20.40:1

T-Maxx
1st 24.1:1
2nd 16.4:1

Gimmie a break comparing these two trucks by a tug-o-war video is stupid!

Face it TC fans there would be no TC without the T-Maxx.

[ATeam]

And its actually a pretty weak video when you factor in everything.

The TC is new with a fresh engine. This guys said his maxx was what 3 years old, no telling what shape the engine is in. The TC has a bigger engine, is geared for more torque, and outweighs the maxx by 4 pounds.

All that said I'm not impressed with the TC. Its cool and all but Tamiya should have put a .21 in it.

[JAnderson]

It's my MAXX and it has a new motor in it!
I put one in it so it would be fair and replaced any worn pieces!

Let's just face it the Terra Crusher "Rocks right out of the box"

put a .21 in it? thats like saying should have put a 3ch in it cuz 2 is not enough?:D

Give me a break! :p

[ATeam]

Ok so it has a new engine. That still does not eliminate the fact that the TC has a bigger engine, is geared for more torque, and outweighs the maxx by 4 pounds.

This video is about as silly as one showing a Chevy Duramax pulling a C1500 Silverado around.

Lets hook the TC up to a MP or a Nitro USA 1 and watch it get dragged around. Then that gives us a excuse to bash the TC for being a weak stock truck.
:rolleyes:

[jives]

That's an idea surely you can find a MP to pull off with the TC.

For a true compare, it really needs to run the same battery of test that RCCA did with the T-Maxx vs the MP.

Hopefully Traxxas will step up to the plate and make some additions to the Maxx and push the envelope a bit futher.

[JAnderson]

There is no reason to test the Terra Crusher against anything but the maxx.

Everyone says the Terra Crusher is a maxx clone. So we put the so called clone up against the maxx and watched in amazement while the Terra Crusher pulled the small child around bt the bumper.

[ATeam]

Originally posted by JAnderson
There is no reason to test the Terra Crusher against anything but the maxx.

Everyone says the Terra Crusher is a maxx clone. So we put the so called clone up against the maxx and watched in amazement while the Terra Crusher pulled the small child around bt the bumper.

You seem to keep forgetting that the TC has a bigger engine, is geared for more torque, and outweighs the maxx by 4 pounds. Of course if you took this into account it would make any results from your "test" not matter.

[Siro]

I'm batting for the TC team here! Sure it has a bigger engine, higher gearing but is it not what it all boils down to it that ITS THE SAME PRICE!

Come on, the TC was pulling the Maxx around like it was a tennis ball. I can't afford a MP or TQ here in the UK but i might be able to afford a TC and for the same price as the Maxx i feel your getting alot more of a truck. I'l say this again like i've said loads before, i feel Tamiya did there homework and knew that any power hungry Monster Truck hobbiest will put a .21 in there and so they beefed up the drivetrain (SteveP from RCCA has a TC and says the drivetrain looks VERY strong). I'l have to say though i thought the TC would be way underpowered but i am quite plesantly surpsied at its speed and torque.

The only thing i don't like about the TC is that i think it could use some more aluminium like the TQ but that would of course make it more expensive. I can't wait for the TC to come, just gotta see how much it will cost over here first!

[jives]

Originally posted by JAnderson
There is no reason to test the Terra Crusher against anything but the maxx.

Everyone says the Terra Crusher is a maxx clone. So we put the so called clone up against the maxx and watched in amazement while the Terra Crusher pulled the small child around bt the bumper.

I said the MP cause until the TC everyone compared the T-Maxx to the MP

[dan7532]

You guys should welcome some t-maxx competition. It keeps prices down, and encourages improvement on the design. Hey ATeam- the reason the TC is geared in higher gear ratios is because of the large tires. You should compare final gear ratios, not tranny ratios. The t-maxx may also be geared down in other areas than the tranny, such as the smaller tires, in the differentials, and any other place where there are gears. RCCA even said in their "first look" at the TC that most of its gear reduction takes place in the tranny, whereas the t-maxx may be geared down in other areas like the ones I mentioned above. So just consider final gear ratio next time instead of tranny ratio. Make sure that you know what you are talking about before you go ahead and blurt something out, such as not considering the final drive ratio, which is the important one. No offense though, don't take this the wrong way, I am just trying to help.

[dan7532]

TTT

[RCtinkerman]

The TC is also a 1/8 scale truck. It's bigger, stronger and more technologically advanced the the T and that's all there is to it. At the same price as a T, it's the one for me. There is also a second tug video where they let the T-maxx start first. Sorry maxx lovers, same ending though, the TC drug the maxx all over the place :D Ya gotta love it!:p

[repete]

Why is it that everytime a tmaxx is beaten in sumthing everyone says that the other vehicle has an advantage and that it isnt fair and that "put a .21 in the tmaxx and i bet it would pull it"

Put a .21 in the tc and let it pull a .21 tmaxx there would be teh same results
i know there is not .21 conversion for the tc yet but there will be

I am just getting tired of hearing the same stupid excuses that all the tmaxx owners come up with "no offense"

[kloyal]

i think they are both good trucks...................



there will always be something new coming out that is better


i still think the maxx is a great truck ill wait to get the tc incase it ends up like the ek4

[MonsterMaxx]

That tug of war is dumb. You are not comparing apples to apples.

The Terra Crusher weighs 12lbs the Maxx 8.5, that's 3.5lbs more than a maxx. The Crusher weighs ~40% more than the Maxx.



You've got the rope pulling down on the crusher and up on the maxx. This transfers the Maxx's own weight to the Crusher.

Silly, unrealistic comparison. Totally unfair. Don't be fooled folks.

Why not attach your riding lawnmower to the back of a 1 ton chevy - then tell folks the Chevy is better because it can drag the lawnmower all over. Makes no sense.

If you built a TC3 to pull, it could easily drag the crusher - gearing, weight, traction.

Now if you want to do a fair comparison...

Attach the rope so it's level.
Take weight off the crusher, or add it to the Maxx until they are equal.
Calculate the final drive ratio for both trucks and change bell/spur to make them similar.

Though this wouldn't be really fair either...the Maxx is designed around 8.5lbs, add all that weight and it would probably break a driveshaft or gear.
Then consider the Maxx's transmission is a centrifugal engagement system. So unless the Maxx is burning it's rubber off it's NOT EVEN ENGAGED.

Or let's slant it the other way, I'd be willing to bet my Maxx would pull the crusher all over even though it's lighter by 2lbs than the crusher. However I've got the power, suspension rigidity and I'll slap on a set of ProLine Road Rage tires for the pavement.

See how unfair that would be? If you are going to do comparisons make them fair or don't do them as a comparison.

I'm not saying I don't like the Crusher...Quite the opposite. I'm looking forward to getting my hands on one...I think it'll be quite cool. From what I've heard Tamiya has really done their homework on this new truck and it should be a nice beast.

What I am saying is that this kind of comparison is completely illogical.


Which is better? for what? If your goal is to be able to drag an 8.5lb mass around than clearly the Crusher can get the job done and probably do it better than the Maxx can.
Racing? Bashing? Top Speed? Fun Factor?
All this is yet to be seen. From what I've been told there's only a few of these pre-production units inside the USA.

I'd love to put them both on a track and race. Now that would be fair. I think the Maxx would have a power to weight advantage. But as we've proven there's more to going fast than power. Power is great, but handling is better. The truck that keeps the rubber side down and moving will be faster.

I look forward to taking a 10lb .21 SuperCrusher™ to the track...

[kloyal]

if the riding mower was used as a vehicle i would have to say it sucks!!!!!!!!!!!!!



i dont think everyone really means it sucks they just think the tc will be better. which everyone
has the right to their own opinion...


i think comparing a r/c to a r/c is diff then a mower to a vehicle.
just my thought...........................

[tadium54]

and for someone who works for Tamiya america, you shold be replying to every single person who has trouble with their car.

[RCtinkerman]

MonsterMaxx, even your "T" truck won't win. Be realistic. In the second video they let the "T" have a head start and actually pull the TC. Then the TC started and results ended the same, "t" being pulled all over the place. The plane fact is, the TC is a much more powerful truck for the MONEY
And that's the bottom line:eek:

[MonsterMaxx]

Tink, watch the vid again, the T's not even pulling, trans won't engage.

I do agree though, even my T would struggle to overcome a 2lb weight disadvantage.

Anyway I think the Crusher is way cool. This "comparision" is totally unrealistic. The Crusher should be an awesome truck.

[QUAKE&SHAKE]

Well take a stock maxx hook it up to 200 pound object on wheels see how well if at all it pulls it then do the same with the TC see how well it pulls. Ten feet how many seconds.
I pic Crusher:)

[3.0 SHO]

saw the part 2 about 100 times lol for real the t-maxx wheels is stock? put some pro-line road rage and see what happing
look when the t-maxx is spining its stock tires off is just not
getting any grib....:o

[MonsterMaxx]

In the 200lb test I'd pick the crusher too. I'd be pretty sad if it didn't win. 40% weight advantage....

Looking at the specs I'd have to say the crusher is 1/8th scale (other than the motor). Anyone know what Tamiya is calling it? scale wise?

[RCtinkerman]

Scale wise I believe their calling it an 1/8th truck. Tower Hobbies lists it as 1/8th also. I would like to see it against a USA-1, or a Nitro Quake or something in the same size league.:)

[Nitro Newbie]

i just got my t-maxx yesterday and i cant imagine sumthin any bigger than it. terra crusher has to be HUGE!!!:eek:

[RCtinkerman]

Check out the Vehicles Forum for Terra Crusher, lot's of info. And yes, it's a 1/8th scale truck.:D

[QUAKE&SHAKE]

OK to take away the TC weight advantage for you maxxers. Use this test.
Take the weight of each truck x10 This will have the maxx pulling like 90 pounds and the TC 120 pounds. The TC weight advantage is lost because its now having to pull 30 more pounds.
Now the engine size difference negates itself due to the weight difference of the trucks 9 pound truck .15 engine 12 pound truck .18 size engine, thats a wash. Besides its Traxxas fault for putting such a small engine in the maxx the first place.
I still pic TC to win.

[fatpat]

Tamiya just released new "official" pics.

See them here (slow)

http://www.tamiya.com/japan/nurn2002/broadcast2.htm

or on my "WWW" link.

[JAnderson]

For the latest Terra Crusher info go to: TERRA-CRUSHER (http://www.terra-crusher.com)

[StevePond]

Ohhhh man. John, you went with EZ Board?! You shoulda got Vbulletin or UBB

[fatpat]

EZboard isn't too bad, but those pop-up ads drive me nuts...

Should've used Snitz! :D

[joecoolman]

You guys should totally do a tug-o-war with the E-maxx versus the TC just for fun. I know it would be electric versus nitro, but It would be fun. The Emaxx weighs 2 more pounds than the Tmaxx so weight would be more fair. And the Emaxx has way more torque than a Tmaxx. I just think it would be a little more even. If it ever happens, post it!:D

[3.0 SHO]

jus saw the mega force pulling a kid on inline skate look like kyosho have a winning i bet it pull a terra crusher and two t-maxx
up a hill......:)

[mr eye]

I think the main reason the TC is compared to the Maxx is because they are the same price. If you want to buy less for the same money go for it! I have a TC on order, but when Traxx comes out with a new truck that's better then the TC (which I'm sure they will) and if it is in the same price range I'll buy one.

[3.0 SHO]

i think the mega force and the terra crusher should go head to head.......